| Jake12 07.09.2019 19:09 |
Part two of his Bohemian Rhapsody “mystery” count in.. OK - here’s my attempt to solve the mystery of my last post (assisted by protools genius Kris Fredriksson). What we see here is a digital transfer of the original 24 track analogue tape recording of Bo Rhap into the ‘Protools’ system (well, strictly, ONE of the original multitracks - because some ‘bouncing’ was done, duplicating on to copy tapes, at the time - probably because of the worries, referred to in the movie, that the oxide on the tape was wearing thin). You can see here, as the Protools cursor moves over the picture, it visually ‘plays’ what was recorded on to each track - and here we see three tracks playing back and two being used at the bottom to record what we’re listening to. The top track has the “1, 2, 3, 4” count from Freddie. The two tracks underneath are from a stereo pair of microphones placed above the piano strings. Freddie is putting down the guide piano, to which he will eventually sing lots of multitracked harmony vocals “Is this the real life” ... etc. But these mikes also pick up what is going on in the room - notably, just audible, Freddie softly singing the tune that he has in his head along with the words he is still writing. So here it’s pretty clear - Freddie goes “One two three four and comes in with the vocal on the following “one”. There is no ‘rest’ at the beginning of the bar. So that sheet music chart is wrong in its assumption. There is one slightly grey area. The count was obviously added after the recording of the piano. This is very common practice - because in the initial takes you’re just worried about the rhythm and the notes - and it’s only later that you realise you need a ‘count in’ to time the entries of the vocals ! So that count could have been placed anywhere in time - but it’s unthinkable that Freddie would put it in a place where it didn’t feel natural to him. Well, that’s my case. Now - what words is he singing ? The first two lines sound like what went on the record ... but after that ? Well, tell me ... what does he say ? Cheers - Bri |
| dudeofqueen 07.09.2019 19:30 |
Dear Bri. No one. Fucking. Cares. ps - is Kerry swallowing yet chap? |
| inu-liger 07.09.2019 20:41 |
Wow, you’re rude |
| rockchic65 07.09.2019 20:49 |
Is this seriously a Queen fan site or did I accidentally stumble onto Queen hate forum, very hard to tell at the moment. |
| matt z 08.09.2019 00:46 |
Rock chic65 it was the same on PRINCE.ORG While he was alive. And it came out after his bodily death that he had actually been a frequent visitor to the site Ain't it a bitch? |
| ggo1 08.09.2019 00:47 |
It's been a hate site for years... keep up. If we all just enjoyed the music there'd be nothing posted. ?? |
| ggo1 08.09.2019 00:54 |
Try as I might, I'm not getting anything from the vocals after fantasy. Bigger question is... what are they doing this for? |
| stevelondon20 08.09.2019 06:42 |
dudeofqueen wrote: Dear Bri. No one. Fucking. Cares. ps - is Kerry swallowing yet chap?Fucking pure ignorance that is. |
| Supersonic_Man89 08.09.2019 08:53 |
I think think the last line is 'Is this real?' but I can't make out the third line. Interesting stuff. |
| thomasquinn 32989 08.09.2019 09:35 |
If Brian *really* wants to know, and I do too, then *maybe* he should make a copy of (that part of) the 'guide vocal + piano' track available for download, rather than just a short video with poor audio quality... |
| runner_70 08.09.2019 10:18 |
ggo1 wrote: It's been a hate site for years... keep up. If we all just enjoyed the music there'd be nothing posted. ??Only when it comes to QAL or substandard QP releases (which is the rule more than the exception) |
| runner_70 08.09.2019 10:19 |
dudeofqueen wrote: Dear Bri. No one. Fucking. Cares. ps - is Kerry swallowing yet chap?What??? |
| stevelondon20 08.09.2019 11:12 |
Disgusting. |
| Holly2003 08.09.2019 11:39 |
'Is sex dirty? Only when it's being done right.' — Woody Allen |
| Chief Mouse 08.09.2019 13:09 |
Man, this site is cancer sometimes, I hope those who contribute to it feel good about themselves. |
| inu-liger 08.09.2019 16:16 |
runner_70 wrote:Ha! Biggest ignorant lie you have told this week.ggo1 wrote: It's been a hate site for years... keep up. If we all just enjoyed the music there'd be nothing posted. ??Only when it comes to QAL or substandard QP releases (which is the rule more than the exception) |
| inu-liger 08.09.2019 16:19 |
Chief Mouse wrote: Man, this site is cancer sometimes, I hope those who contribute to it feel good about themselves.“Insane, should be put inside. They are sewer rats decaying in a cesspool of pride. Should be made unemployed, make themselves null and void. Do they feel good?” |
| runner_70 08.09.2019 16:40 |
inu-liger wrote:ok substandard non QP books as well ;)runner_70 wrote:Ha! Biggest ignorant lie you have told this week.ggo1 wrote: It's been a hate site for years... keep up. If we all just enjoyed the music there'd be nothing posted. ??Only when it comes to QAL or substandard QP releases (which is the rule more than the exception) |
| The Real Wizard 08.09.2019 18:15 |
rockchic65 wrote: Is this seriously a Queen fan site or did I accidentally stumble onto Queen hate forumIt's been a hate site pretty well since day one, once trolls living in their mothers' basements realized it was unmoderated and that they could get away with spewing vile at every opportunity. This forum model (equating moderation with censorship) was started with the best of intentions, but it's completely infeasible in 2019. Pretty much every forum would look like this if there weren't moderators providing checks and balances to maintain some semblance of civility amidst disagreement. And since the arseholes of the world don't have many places to go to, as soon as a place like this becomes known they stick to it like glue. Which is why most of the best contributors to the site from years past are long gone. As per the original post - Brian May pulling up a copy of the 24 track master of BoRhap in Pro Tools is a beautiful thing to watch. He's old. He may not be around in a decade. So if anyone is actually a fan of Queen, this is the stuff to cherish. |
| Makka 09.09.2019 03:31 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Exactly. He was just looking at it in response to a fans question about a rest on the first beat of the opening. They may all be gone before we know it.rockchic65 wrote: Is this seriously a Queen fan site or did I accidentally stumble onto Queen hate forumIt's been a hate site pretty well since day one, once trolls living in their mothers' basements realized it was unmoderated and that they could get away with spewing vile at every opportunity. This forum model (equating moderation with censorship) was started with the best of intentions, but it's completely infeasible in 2019. Pretty much every forum would look like this if there weren't moderators providing checks and balances to maintain some semblance of civility amidst disagreement. And since the arseholes of the world don't have many places to go to, as soon as a place like this becomes known they stick to it like glue. Which is why most of the best contributors to the site from years past are long gone. As per the original post - Brian May pulling up a copy of the 24 track master of BoRhap in Pro Tools is a beautiful thing to watch. He's old. He may not be around in a decade. So if anyone is actually a fan of Queen, this is the stuff to cherish. |
| Penetration_Guru 11.09.2019 14:26 |
Since plenty of us have access to the same source Brian does, I had a listen. Boosted the relevant lines a couple of times, but obviously couldn't get the piano down. Track 11 was slightly clearer than track 10, but I couldn't actually be confident that the first two lines were unchanged to the final version. Line three sounded like "is this a feeling" although I suspect my brain was autocompleting the first two words". For line four the piano was too loud for my ears to establish anything other than a hint of there being vocals. I imagine that it would be very difficult to come up with a filter that reduced the piano to further isolate the vocal line, and if Brian wants to know, he has better tools than I do with which to find out. What is (hopefully) good about this is that it's likely to trigger a bunch of follow up questions about multitracks that at least gets the subject back in to his mind. |