QueenZone discussion #1563312

snifflese wrote: I was wrong about the song as it doesn't sound trite like I thought it would. Somehow the video adds a lot to the lyric. It just made me smile! Adam has the best facial expressions and I am very much liking it, esp the video!! It also doesn't sound preachy like the anthem I thought it would be. A great way to end the night!

runner_70 wrote: I lasted 25 seconds. Plain proof why noone gives a shit about this tool. Crap music(Sounds like a bad 70s Disco song) and he looks like adragqueen again. Totally offputting. It will bomb big time. Well deserved. The Video looks as cheap as the guy. At least this " he does not wear a wig" crap from the video b4 is put to rest finally. Shockingly bad

SweetCaroline wrote: Queen fans wanted Queen music and Brian, Roger and John to all die the day Freddie died.

Saint Jiub wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Queen fans wanted Queen music and Brian, Roger and John to all die the day Freddie died.

flash00. wrote: Sorry but he's a drag queen trying to copy Bruno Mars Uptown Funk and a bit of George Michael and Freedom (and he ain't no George Michael) The video was shocking cheap, I can't understand if his fans think he's amazing and love his music....why don't they put their hands in their little handbags and buy it because his solo stuff is flopping quicker than his wigs, the video would of been better if he actually drove the car and stopped dressing and behaving like a drag queen he'd be amazed how quick he could move around if he stopped wearing high heel boots. I'll say it again his music would be huge if!!! his fans bought it he wouldn't have had to sign to a small independent label. Thinking about it now i think he needs BM and RT for the big paychecks.

Saint Jiub wrote:

flash00. wrote: Sorry but he's a drag queen trying to copy Bruno Mars Uptown Funk and a bit of George Michael and Freedom (and he ain't no George Michael) The video was shocking cheap, I can't understand if his fans think he's amazing and love his music....why don't they put their hands in their little handbags and buy it because his solo stuff is flopping quicker than his wigs, the video would of been better if he actually drove the car and stopped dressing and behaving like a drag queen he'd be amazed how quick he could move around if he stopped wearing high heel boots. I'll say it again his music would be huge if!!! his fans bought it he wouldn't have had to sign to a small independent label. Thinking about it now i think he needs BM and RT for the big paychecks.

Being a drag queen is not the problem. Being phony, contrived, fabricated and wooden is the problem.

SweetCaroline wrote: Like the song says, stop trying to put Adam in a box: drag queen, musical theater, screamer, phony, contrived, wooden, fabricated? Good grief!

SweetCaroline wrote: Like the song says, stop trying to put Adam in a box: drag queen, musical theater, screamer, phony, contrived, wooden, fabricated? Good grief!

SweetCaroline wrote: It was still there at 7:45 am! link

princetom wrote: hot space.

runner_70 wrote:

princetom wrote: hot space.

Hot Space >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lamebird Crap

Iron Butterfly wrote:

runner_70 wrote:

princetom wrote: hot space.

Hot Space >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lamebird Crap

Most songs from Hot Space were better than ALs Coming In Hot and New Eyes.

SweetCaroline wrote: The “Superpower” music video is #1 at 6:29 this morning. Don’t know if it was still there at 6:30! LOL link

MisterCosmicc wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: The “Superpower” music video is #1 at 6:29 this morning. Don’t know if it was still there at 6:30! LOL link

Probably because there's a lot of Queen fans who want to watch it to give their view.

SweetCaroline wrote: Superpower music video has 1 million views: link

MisterCosmicc wrote: Love Me Like There’s No Tomorrow already has over 2 million views. Awesome.

Day dop wrote: Doesn't look like Lambert brings much to Queen in terms of listeners either.

philip storey wrote: Can't believe how crap Adam is and the video is even worse,just listening to Marc Bolan at the moment,brilliant !

MisterCosmicc wrote: Adam’s biggest fan base... teenyboppers and 50+ year old women. He doesn’t have a hardcore rock fan base for a reason.

MisterCosmicc wrote: Adam doesn’t move around much at all. If he does, he strolls slowly. It’s as if he isn’t energetic. An instrumental break doesn’t have to be a solo. It can be a few seconds. Adam seems to be out of touch with the beat.

SweetCaroline wrote: Go to a show! It all fits together beautifully and Adam shows total respect to the two iconic gentlemen with whom he is honored to perform. He is very capable of being more animated as he is in his solo shows, Why don’t you complain about Ed Sheeran or John Mayer and others standing in one place in front of a mic with their guitars? Why is Adam the only male vocalist who gets criticized no matter what he does? He moves too much! He doesn’t move enough! He is not Freddie. He is not Paul. He is Adam! He doesn’t have to constantly punch his fist in the air to get the song across. It comes pretty easy to him!

SweetCaroline wrote: 20th Century Boy — Adam: link

SweetCaroline wrote: Go to a show!

SweetCaroline wrote: Go to a show!

rockchic65 wrote: you're in cuckoo land if you think no one at the shows dislikes his voice or just puts up with him.

snifflese wrote: Think Arrowsmith, ACDC.

Saint Jiub wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Go to a show!

Go to an Adele show. It's great it's spectacular. You can't judge Adele unless you see her live. What do runner and SC have in common? They are both annoying trolls that have been banned by QOL.

Saint Jiub wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: you're in cuckoo land if you think no one at the shows dislikes his voice or just puts up with him.

Fixed your statement for you ...

MisterCosmicc wrote: “they wanted a singer that could sing anything from their catalog.“ If you think about it, any vocalist can sing Queen’s catalogue, however will it sound great? Look at the Freddie Mercury Tribute concert. I believe they chose Adam for his image. The outrageous clothes and crap. They thought hardcore Queen fans would dig it. I believe Adam’s sexuality played a role too. They wanted someone that’s flashy, but it’s almost as if he’s a parody of gay rock stars. Adam tries too hard with his sexuality. He tries to be cute and sexy, but he’s not. He’s a very confused man.

MisterCosmicc wrote: “You're on a roll there lol and you can say he can't sing rock all you like but there's lots of rock/metal dudes who love his voice and plenty say so after the QAL shows“ It sounds like you’re thinking of Alice Cooper and Dee Snider... of course they will play nice and say kind things about Adam. However, they know Adam isn’t a rock singer. Do they love Adam’s voice, or just think it’s great Brian and Roger “found something to do”????

runner_70 wrote: I really wonder why looney SC is posting those tweets every time. Truth is the song is the third huge commercial flop in a row. It sucks musically and noone gives a shit about the Ladyboy. Fact. No tweet will change that . His album will bomb big time as well as everyone with a sane mind predicted.

SweetCaroline wrote: Marc Bolan has been deceased for 42 years.

SweetCaroline wrote: Unlike Freddie who was an original member of the band, Adam doesn’t move around much when Brian is playing one of his iconic solos. I believe it is out of respect and to give him the spotlight during those times. Wouldn’t you be really upset if Adam was on the opposite side of the stage purposely upstaging Brian or Roger? It was part of the act that when Brian was playing Freddie was running up a stairway or rolling on the floor or skipping across the stage! It wouldn’t be acceptable for Adam to do that mainly because he is not trying to be a Freddie clone.

MisterCosmicc wrote: “Then there are other kinds of rockers, Think Arrowsmith, ACDC. There are a ton of rock bands with singers who have lighter, really high voices” Arrowsmith? LOL you must be a huge fan! Neither Aerosmith or AC/DC have singers with light voices.

MisterCosmicc wrote: When the music is rocking but you don’t know how to rock out

MisterCosmicc wrote: The sad part of Adam’s solo career is that Adam only has to go in, record his vocals, and then leave the studio. He could record an album every couple of weeks if he wanted to. Other people write his songs, he doesn’t play an instrument. The reason for album delays record label problems, and why he’s currently on an independent record label running out of a random dude’s garage is because his music is a drain on finances. His last six singles, more money was spent on songwriters than the money earned from sales. His income is from Queen... he has no income from solo music.

MisterCosmicc wrote: “The label is for distribution only” How misinformed you are... I’m in the music business.

MisterCosmicc wrote: “No he doesn't he co wrote every song on the album“ How can you say that when it hasn’t been released yet?

MisterCosmicc wrote: “if he chooses to go independent so he can have more control so what” I know for a fact, that Adam can’t get a major record deal. I also know his last major record deal, he was released for big expenses with little output from him before he could even begin an album. I’m surprised he can’t get a record deal, honestly. Especially after the FREDDIE film. He went with an indie label because he had no choice. He’s spending more money on his solo music than ever before, because usually the label supports the costs for everything relating to the official recordings. Adam’s a brat with many demands. His last major record company ditched him. They all did.

MisterCosmicc wrote: Adam has a limit with distribution due to his record company issues. If he ever released a really great record, it couldn’t even reach number one because it’d go out of stock. As it is, he can’t even sell as many of his singles now to reach his limit on manufactured product. Adam does have sales digitally... but it merely pays the bills so to speak.

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam does not have the same TONE in his voice as Freddie. That is why he does not sound exactly like him. But his voice is powerful and not thin. Tacky? Did you think Freddie was tacky? Harsh and grating? Some people think his voice is too mellow and theatrical and not raw and gritty enough to be rock. Give me a break. Which is it? B & R are glad that he can sing anything they ask him to sing! Regarding the auto analogy, my son always says that Freddie was like a peppy sports car, a Thunderbird, and Adam is like a smooth Lamborghini!

Day dop wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam does not have the same TONE in his voice as Freddie. That is why he does not sound exactly like him. But his voice is powerful and not thin. Tacky? Did you think Freddie was tacky? Harsh and grating? Some people think his voice is too mellow and theatrical and not raw and gritty enough to be rock. Give me a break. Which is it? B & R are glad that he can sing anything they ask him to sing! Regarding the auto analogy, my son always says that Freddie was like a peppy sports car, a Thunderbird, and Adam is like a smooth Lamborghini!

Doesn't sound exactly like him? Lambert doesn't sound ANYTHING like Freddie Mercury. And no, it's a thin voice. Mercury singing Save Me: link Lambert singing Save Me: link Lambert's voice sounds thin, generic and, well... shit. Mercury's voice is wonderful. And yes, Lambert's voice is harsh and grating. It's not "mellow" at all. It's a headache to listen to, It's not a voice that's powerful enough for rock. It's a cabaret sounding voice. Brian May thinks collaborating with Dappy was a good idea too. In fact, I could list many things Brian and Roger have done over the last 20 years or so that are at least questionable, and at the most dodgy as fuck! Not sure why you think I'd want to ask his opinion these days.

MisterCosmicc wrote: Thanks to the film, the attendance is bigger than ever.

SweetCaroline wrote: One of many audience filmed live videos of Save Me by Adam: link

SweetCaroline wrote: I can’t bring up your link to save me. This one seems to be a music video version: link Doesn’t sound very powerful to me!

runner_70 wrote:

Day dop wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam does not have the same TONE in his voice as Freddie. That is why he does not sound exactly like him. But his voice is powerful and not thin. Tacky? Did you think Freddie was tacky? Harsh and grating? Some people think his voice is too mellow and theatrical and not raw and gritty enough to be rock. Give me a break. Which is it? B & R are glad that he can sing anything they ask him to sing! Regarding the auto analogy, my son always says that Freddie was like a peppy sports car, a Thunderbird, and Adam is like a smooth Lamborghini!

Doesn't sound exactly like him? Lambert doesn't sound ANYTHING like Freddie Mercury. And no, it's a thin voice. Mercury singing Save Me: link Lambert singing Save Me: link Lambert's voice sounds thin, generic and, well... shit. Mercury's voice is wonderful. And yes, Lambert's voice is harsh and grating. It's not "mellow" at all. It's a headache to listen to, It's not a voice that's powerful enough for rock. It's a cabaret sounding voice. Brian May thinks collaborating with Dappy was a good idea too. In fact, I could list many things Brian and Roger have done over the last 20 years or so that are at least questionable, and at the most dodgy as fuck! Not sure why you think I'd want to ask his opinion these days.

You are spot on especially with Save me. Lamebutts version sounds like a lounge version with no power at all while Freddie is belting it out with passion and power.

snifflese wrote: Everyone likes something different, I find Adam's voice pure and melodic and it sounds beautiful and very rich to me. Considering all the concerts that have been selling out and fans clamoring to come to their neck of the woods, I would assume hundreds of thousands of people are enjoying the music and the singers. Read the remarks after the concerts and the vast majority mention how amazing Adam's voice is, not something you normally read in tweets and reviews. There is something about his voice that resonates with most people, just not with you. Even Cher shed a tear on hearing him sing that gorgeous version of "Believe". We can't all be wrong! You just prefer something more like Freddie, which is great, but doesn't make us wrong either in enjoying Adam's voice. If Brian and Roger were so wrong, then they wouldn't still be touring since 2012 to bigger and bigger audiences.

snifflese wrote: Not hearing the big difference. Freddie sounds pretty quiet and breathy in the beginning of the song and has a lot of music to back him up when he gets to the Save Me Part. Adam has a beautiful clear tenor and keeps it more restrained until the second set of Save Mes and then his powerful voice is also heard and his musical backing is really subdued. I just don't hear this vast difference in what you call power. Adam's voice is much lighter due to being a real tenor and the weight of the voices is going to differ and it has nothing to do with power. He can blast you out of this forum with some of the power in songs such as SMGO, WWTLF, and many more. None of you seem to understand that deeper voices sound different and to the untrained ear, you attribute that mistakenly to power. I have sat in a venue with Adam singing at least 10 times and his voices hits the rafters. You people do not know what you are talking about!

snifflese wrote: None of you seem to understand that deeper voices sound different and to the untrained ear, .

snifflese wrote: That is your opinion and not mine. The reason he is not as popular is that IMO he is not singing the right music for his voice. He is really good at singing a lot of the Queen music, and some of his covers are better than the original when he has covered other artists. I enjoy his own music, but it sure isn't Queen or some of the others I enjoy. I like his new video but I am not feeling Velvet so far, other than that one and the first that came out. Adam doesn't do a great job at picking out songs that really illustrate his voice, I think if he sang Classical or what I call Light Classical, he would be tremendously popular. I think it is much more about the musical choices than anything to do with his voice. I don't find him boring. He is anything but that! He puts on a dynamite show with Queen. I could also find lots of really tacky outfits Freddie wore. I don't think anything beats those ballet slippers and onesies. I wouldn't bring up fashion choices if I were you. Freddie was way out there for the times. Goodness knows what he might wear today. I have a feeling he might give Adam a run for his money. I am sure Adam doesn't fit the bill for some long term Queen fans, but there are many that have gone to the darkside and have enjoyed the concerts. Both Freddie and Adam are acquired tastes. Not everyone liked Freddie back in the day. He is much more popular now than he ever was back then, so you never know where Adam's popularity will fall at the end of the day. Music is in the ear of the beholder! It would be boring if we all loved the same thing!

Day dop wrote: Lambert sounds like absolute SHIT compared to Freddie Mercury. Lambet's voice, as I said, is thin, harsh, and grating.

rockchic65 wrote:

Day dop wrote: Lambert sounds like absolute SHIT compared to Freddie Mercury. Lambet's voice, as I said, is thin, harsh, and grating.

To you maybe but that's subjective and not fact - which part of different voice types are having a problem understanding?

rockchic65 wrote: I've heard Adam live and his voice sounds different than on video, it's actually higher but more resonant and has no lack of power. All the harmonics in voices don't always pick up on recording equipment hence it can sound thinner than it does live and there's people who've said the same about him sounding different live since he very first toured solo so it's not just me, it's been said by lots of people.

rockchic65 wrote:

Day dop wrote: Lambert sounds like absolute SHIT compared to Freddie Mercury. Lambet's voice, as I said, is thin, harsh, and grating.

As to followers, no idea why he doesn't have tons of followers since when he does anything high profile tons of people rave about him so I'd say it's likely the type of music he does solo rather than anything to do with his voice. From the start people expected him to do rock since that's more what he got initially known for but he chose to go the EDM/pop route and lost fans as that's not their thing and is probably the reason lots of people love him with Queen, and you're deluded if you think they don't, there's tons of comments after the shows raving about his voice.

snifflese wrote: You are impossible toi try to have a discussion with, Your mind is made up and it is useless. All I can say is that Freddie was not universally appreciated before he unfortunately passed away. He was not regarded as the greatest rock singer ever back then. There are many fans of other bands from back in the day who would disagree with you. You always have to resort to name calling and that is why I don't pay any attention to your opinions either. In your always lovely words, your opinions are "shit".

snifflese wrote: Obviously you can't read either.

snifflese wrote: The run for his money pertained to outrageous clothes (nothing else) that Freddie would probably be wearing now. You can't even read what an Adam fan writes without projecting your own false ideas into what was meant. You are totally close minded.

snifflese wrote: JUST FYI he is not everyone's rock god. I am sure there are plenty of old fans of other groups who do not worship at the altar of Freddie. That is your problem.

snifflese wrote: There are lots of other singers out there, who were and are still amazing and that has nothing to do with Adam. That is great that he is your end all and be all, but that doesn't apply to everyone.

Day dop wrote: To me and millions of others. I don't see Lambert topping polls like Freddie Mercury. Also, have you read the science on Mercury's voice? As for this... Which part of difference voice types are having a problem understanding? Could you say that in English, please?

Day dop wrote: Freddie Mercury was very much loved before he passed away. Have you not checked the positions Queen albums were reaching? Are you not aware how quick the Magic Tour sold out? Are you not aware Mercury's status as a front man and rock singer was cemented at Live Aid? (I would say even before that, but certainly by Live Aid). And you clearly do pay attention to my opinions, as you're replying to my comments, you twat.

rockchic65 wrote:

Day dop wrote: Freddie Mercury was very much loved before he passed away. Have you not checked the positions Queen albums were reaching? Are you not aware how quick the Magic Tour sold out? Are you not aware Mercury's status as a front man and rock singer was cemented at Live Aid? (I would say even before that, but certainly by Live Aid). And you clearly do pay attention to my opinions, as you're replying to my comments, you twat.

Freddie was much loved by his fans but there are plenty people who weren't fans of Freddie or Queen, I've seen comments recently saying Queen were always crap and Freddie was as pretentious as their music. Not everyone will love the same artists, I find it unimaginable that someone wouldn't love Queen but I personally know people who are completely indifferent to them and even though they think one or two very well known songs are ok they just really don't give a damn about the rest of their music or the band.

rockchic65 wrote: Day dop wrote: To me and millions of others. I don't see Lambert topping polls like Freddie Mercury. Also, have you read the science on Mercury's voice? As for this... Which part of difference voice types are having a problem understanding? Could you say that in English, please?

rockchic65 wrote: Where have I said Lambert tops polls like Freddie or even compared him to Freddie?

rockchic65 wrote: Freddie was amazing but he sadly died 28 years ago and I'm happy the band found someone to carry on with in the live arena, I don't need to make comparisons, they're completely different types of artists with completely different voices, I can like both without making it a competition.

rockchic65 wrote: Yes I've read the science about his voice, not sure why you're asking me that though.

rockchic65 wrote: My point about voice types is a high tenor is always going to have a lighter weight and thinner (for want of a better word) sound than a low tenor, baritenor like Freddie, that doesn't make their voice weaker, less powerful etc it's just a different timbre. Incidentally when did you hear Adam live, what year?

rockchic65 wrote: The joke is you lot tying yourselves in knots trying to put the guy down and make out no one likes his voice when there's evidence everywhere to the contrary, it's beyond laughable but carry on with your little bitchfest, outside of here no one knows or cares about your opinions and while you're having your tantrum QAL are riding higher than ever, being asked to perform at more events and being praised more and more all the time lol.

rockchic65 wrote: Adam may not have the followers of Rhianna or whoever but then followers and numbers have never denoted quality and talent or the likes of Britney and Taylor Swift to say nothing of all the Hip Hop and Rap artists out there would be far more talented than Queen!!! Queen have 1.9 million followers on twitter, Adam has 2.5 million and Britney has 56.3 million and Katy Perry has 108 million - want to tell us again how followers equates to talent. Listeners on Spotify - Britney, Taylor and Drake all have more monthly listeners than Queen!!!

rockchic65 wrote: want to tell us again how followers equates to talent.

SweetCaroline wrote: I can’t bring up your link to save me. This one seems to be a music video version: link Doesn’t sound very powerful to me!

snifflese wrote: Not hearing the big difference. Freddie sounds pretty quiet and breathy in the beginning of the song and has a lot of music to back him up when he gets to the Save Me Part. Adam has a beautiful clear tenor and keeps it more restrained until the second set of Save Mes and then his powerful voice is also heard and his musical backing is really subdued. I just don't hear this vast difference in what you call power. Adam's voice is much lighter due to being a real tenor and the weight of the voices is going to differ and it has nothing to do with power. He can blast you out of this forum with some of the power in songs such as SMGO, WWTLF, and many more. None of you seem to understand that deeper voices sound different and to the untrained ear, you attribute that mistakenly to power. I have sat in a venue with Adam singing at least 10 times and his voices hits the rafters. You people do not know what you are talking about!

snifflese wrote: That is your opinion and not mine. The reason he is not as popular is that IMO he is not singing the right music for his voice. He is really good at singing a lot of the Queen music, and some of his covers are better than the original when he has covered other artists. I enjoy his own music, but it sure isn't Queen or some of the others I enjoy. I like his new video but I am not feeling Velvet so far, other than that one and the first that came out. Adam doesn't do a great job at picking out songs that really illustrate his voice, I think if he sang Classical or what I call Light Classical, he would be tremendously popular. I think it is much more about the musical choices than anything to do with his voice. I don't find him boring. He is anything but that! He puts on a dynamite show with Queen. I could also find lots of really tacky outfits Freddie wore. I don't think anything beats those ballet slippers and onesies. I wouldn't bring up fashion choices if I were you. Freddie was way out there for the times. Goodness knows what he might wear today. I have a feeling he might give Adam a run for his money. I am sure Adam doesn't fit the bill for some long term Queen fans, but there are many that have gone to the darkside and have enjoyed the concerts. Both Freddie and Adam are acquired tastes. Not everyone liked Freddie back in the day. He is much more popular now than he ever was back then, so you never know where Adam's popularity will fall at the end of the day. Music is in the ear of the beholder! It would be boring if we all loved the same thing!

snifflese wrote: All I can say is that Freddie was not universally appreciated before he unfortunately passed away. He was not regarded as the greatest rock singer ever back then.

Day dop wrote: But despite being a current artist, Adam Lambert is not even ranked. That means he's outside of the top 500 most listened to artists lol.

AlbaNo1 wrote: And actually Lambert’s voice is just horrible. There’s people like Michael Stipe and Lou Reed who could barely sing that have far better true voices with feeling in them,

AlbaNo1 wrote: Blatantly passive aggressive post there. Absolutely disgusting .

Day dop wrote:

AlbaNo1 wrote: And actually Lambert’s voice is just horrible. There’s people like Michael Stipe and Lou Reed who could barely sing that have far better true voices with feeling in them,

I much prefer either Michael Stipe's voice or Lou Reed's to Lambert's thin, grating voice.

MisterCosmicc wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: I can’t bring up your link to save me. This one seems to be a music video version: link Doesn’t sound very powerful to me!

Adam can't hit the chorus that powerfully. Nor is he as delicate as Freddie during Freddie's verses.

Day dop wrote: Because it's interesting? Because this is a Queen forum? Hello? 2012. And no, his voice is just as horrible now as it was back then, in case you try to tell me otherwise. He's just as bad on the videos as he was back then. Probably worse, for me, as I've grown even less tolerate of that voice. The only way his voice could be any good to my ears is if it became a completely different voice. Obviously that's not going to happen.

AlbaNo1 wrote: And actually Lambert’s voice is just horrible. There’s people like Michael Stipe and Lou Reed who could barely sing that have far better true voices with feeling in them,

SweetCaroline wrote: Okay, I found this one from Montreal: link I agree that Freddie was belting it and Adam was giving it a lighter. touch.

SweetCaroline wrote: I have a question for the Freddie “experts.” Why did Freddie perform with no top on top? Did he think he had a beautiful physique he wanted to show off? Or did he swear so profusely he decided it is better to have nothing on at all? I know that wasn’t always the case, but what was the reason when he did it? Performing in a hot venue or country? Just curious because I have never heard an explanation.

SweetCaroline wrote: Dumb phone!

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam’s voice is NOT horrible!

Holly2003 wrote:

Day dop wrote:

AlbaNo1 wrote: And actually Lambert’s voice is just horrible. There’s people like Michael Stipe and Lou Reed who could barely sing that have far better true voices with feeling in them,

I much prefer either Michael Stipe's voice or Lou Reed's to Lambert's thin, grating voice.

There are singers just from American Idol with more character and soul in their performances than Lambert -- people like Phil Phillips and Crystal Bowersox. And they're musicians too.

SweetCaroline wrote: Holly, why are you always comparing Adam to other people? He is Adam, not other people. I appreciate him for who he is and the others for who they are. Do people you know always compare you to your sister or your mother or some other person they know? If they do, do you like it when they do that?

Iron Butterfly wrote: I might get attacked or mocked by SweetCaroline for this, but I really like how AL sang Save Me.

runner_70 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: I might get attacked or mocked by SweetCaroline for this, but I really like how AL sang Save Me.

I hate him on SM-totally proof of his powerless non existing rock voice

SweetCaroline wrote: I have a question for the Freddie “experts.” Why did Freddie perform with no top on top? Did he think he had a beautiful physique he wanted to show off? Or did he swear so profusely he decided it is better to have nothing on at all? I know that wasn’t always the case, but what was the reason when he did it? Performing in a hot venue or country? Just curious because I have never heard an explanation.

AlbaNo1 wrote: Hair?

AlbaNo1 wrote: Hair?

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Holly2003 wrote:

Day dop wrote:

AlbaNo1 wrote: And actually Lambert’s voice is just horrible. There’s people like Michael Stipe and Lou Reed who could barely sing that have far better true voices with feeling in them,

I much prefer either Michael Stipe's voice or Lou Reed's to Lambert's thin, grating voice.

There are singers just from American Idol with more character and soul in their performances than Lambert -- people like Phil Phillips and Crystal Bowersox. And they're musicians too.

Daughtry is fkn awesome, IMO.

SweetCaroline wrote: Have you all seen The Show Must Go On documentary on ABC? The very beginning of it pointed out that at the Freddie Tribute they needed 20 singers to perform the Queen catalogue. Joe Elliott said that he could only sing the rock numbers. The person they needed for touring had to be flamboyant, have charisma, a killer vocal range and be versatile like Freddie was. So in walks Adam Lambert auditioning with “Bohemian Rhapsody” of all songs in the world! The “Gift From God.” If you insist on a Freddie sound alike, Marc Martel is your man, a Christian music singer with zero stage presence and charisma! As I’ve said many times before, Brian and Roger and Spike, too, should be trusted to know who has been the right man for the job. Adam was perfect in so many ways including that he wasn’t a big name star like George Michael and could afford to spend the time with these guys along with his fledgeling solo career. Adam more than proved during the Idol show that he could sing anything—rock, pop, funk, ballads, soul, r&b—the phone book! Adam is fine! If he never gets s Grammy, he will survive like Queen did for so many years!

SweetCaroline wrote: I do! I want to hear a dog or a cat try to sing “Killer Queen.” Shish!

SweetCaroline wrote: Have you all seen The Show Must Go On documentary on ABC? The very beginning of it pointed out that at the Freddie Tribute they needed 20 singers to perform the Queen catalogue. Joe Elliott said that he could only sing the rock numbers. The person they needed for touring had to be flamboyant, have charisma, a killer vocal range and be versatile like Freddie was. So in walks Adam Lambert auditioning with “Bohemian Rhapsody” of all songs in the world! The “Gift From God.” If you insist on a Freddie sound alike, Marc Martel is your man, a Christian music singer with zero stage presence and charisma! As I’ve said many times before, Brian and Roger and Spike, too, should be trusted to know who has been the right man for the job. Adam was perfect in so many ways including that he wasn’t a big name star like George Michael and could afford to spend the time with these guys along with his fledgeling solo career. Adam more than proved during the Idol show that he could sing anything—rock, pop, funk, ballads, soul, r&b—the phone book! Adam is fine! If he never gets s Grammy, he will survive like Queen did for so many years!

SweetCaroline wrote: Have you all seen The Show Must Go On documentary on ABC?

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam is not shit! Anything but! I agree the Freddie Tribute was wonderful and very special BECAUSE of the many name performers who were there to honor him. However, they would not have been able to tour with 20 name artists. I regret that I never saw Freddie and even Paul in person. Now, as TSMGO doc portrays so beautifully, the live music has been able to go on because of the QAL collaboration. It may not be what everyone likes, but nothing is forever and I am happy I have been able to enjoy the energy and magic these 6 guys and their phenomenal crew have put together for thousands to love and remember always!

SweetCaroline wrote: Icy, get a life already and stop stalking me. Nothing you say changes MY relationship with Queen through the years. Mind your own business and you will be a happier person—maybe !!!

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam is not shit! Anything but! I agree the Freddie Tribute was wonderful and very special BECAUSE of the many name performers who were there to honor him. However, they would not have been able to tour with 20 name artists. I regret that I never saw Freddie and even Paul in person. Now, as TSMGO doc portrays so beautifully, the live music has been able to go on because of the QAL collaboration. It may not be what everyone likes, but nothing is forever and I am happy I have been able to enjoy the energy and magic these 6 guys and their phenomenal crew have put together for thousands to love and remember always!

SweetCaroline wrote: runner, did you call Freddie “ladyboy” or “twat?”

SweetCaroline wrote: runner, did you call Freddie “ladyboy” or “twat?”

SweetCaroline wrote: Oh shut up, icy! If Adam is a lady boy, so was Freddie! THAT is the point!

MisterCosmicc wrote: Freddie was macho. Sure, feminine at times, he was the gal in the relationship, but he was one Hell of a powerhouse, and many people who knew him say that he was very physically strong.

MisterCosmicc wrote: Ironic? What? Adam literally smells Brian’s butt on stage and you expect Queen fans not to notice. Look at Adam’s wine drinking selfies, you’ll learn more about that wanker. Full of himself.

SweetCaroline wrote: That 6 foot two hunk is not effeminate. Every bit as macho as Freddie! Maybe more! Camp Elvis !!!!!

snifflese wrote: This is part of the Queen board, Icy! Get a grip!! this is Queen plus ADAM LAMBERT, so we can talk about him and praise him if we feel it is warranted. What is this nonsense you always come up with about a Queen board? We don't post in the threads dealing with old Queen. We stay here not to bother anyone and you always come in as if we can't post here. Yes, we CAN, and on a Queen board no less. By the way, it was Roger who called Adam a camp Elvis. If you don't like that, take it up with him! Personally having seen Elvis( he was my first celebrity crush), it is an apt description. There are tons of folks who feel he has an Elvis vibe. It is not bigging up. Defending Adam after Mister Cosmics remarks is part of a forum. And describing him as Camp Elvis is a fact, so no bigging up! We are pointing out the positive aspects. Why can you people just be negative and that is perfectly OK? You are talking out of both sides of your mouth!

snifflese wrote: I am not in a rage, Icy. That is always your fallback crap. I posted the words in caps, so they might make an impression on your brain, that we may talk about Adam here in this part of the forum. You don't seem to either understand that concept or you forget that we can do this. I was just pointing it out to you again. I am tired of hearing that for the umpteenth time. Everything you write is stuff you have posted umpteen times. Don't you get of tired retelling it constantly? Everyone is aware of all those issues and we don't forget and we don't need them repeated ad nauseum. You are the only one that is truly rageful on this board. I see you swooping in to post with an angel's sword in one hand getting ready to do battle with those evil Glamberts, esp. that demon Caroline ( just kidding Caroline!) and her minion, Snifflese. It is very funny actually! You don't understand that you are just as obsessed with Freddie or you couldn't possibly always be so upset about anything to do with Freddie. In particular whether or not he is getting all the praise he should. Is he paying you from beyond the grave to constantly defend his honor? That statement is just about as stupid as you asking Caroline constantly if she is paid by Adam to big him up. Looks really dumb when you see it written, right? Queen now has three chapters to it, the original band, QPR and QAL, call them what you will. You can't wipe away this part of their history, sorry. It sounds like the Chinese and Russians trying to change and rewrite their history. Now that is a scary thought! The Queen boards are scary with all you people waiting to jump down QAL fans throats. Why would we ever go to a Queen thread? I hate to keep repeating myself, but you get such glee in telling someone when Freddie wore his crown or ballet slippers and making fun of that person for getting some extremely important Queen fact wrong. Give me a break. You tell us off here more than enough, thank you very much. As far as effeminate, both guys were. I have no idea how Adam is in real life. On the stage he is an actor and part of the show with KQ and the bicycle are camp parts. I know he plays that up and makes remarks indicating he is a Queen, etc. People laugh! Freddie came off as effeminate at times and then went more macho because of homophobia I am sure. With Aids back then he probably didn't want to accentuate the obvious. I don't think anyone thought he was straight! Who cares really? Neither you nor I nor how gay or not gay they were and could care less. They are acting on stage. You can't speak for Freddie either as to how macho he is. You have no idea, although often you seem to think you know more than Brian and Roger and I always laugh because it is ridiculous. I bet if Freddie were performing now he would out gay Adam(don't think that is a word, but I am sure you get my meaning) He just had to hide it more back then. Because he was pretty much forced to behave a certain way, no one knows how he would have performed in 2019. I am thinking he would be even more over the top than Adam with sparkly outfits and outrageous remarks and doing a lot of the same things that you don't like about Adam. It is a show and no one knows the reality of their own personal lives, not even you.

snifflese wrote: You are just too funny is all I can say! Talk about someone who lives in a dream world and doesn't recognize anything about herself. You are totally obsessed with Freddie whether or not you know it. You are in a constant dither here, not me! It has nothing to do with Caroline although she is your prime whipping dog for some reason. I am not sure what you just read, but I did say Adam was effeminate, no one says otherwise, and he emphasizes that in the show at certain parts, but I don't know his reality. Of course you know he is gay, no one says he is not. But I guess the funny part is Freddie is always given a pass and he was gay also. That is the part I just don't understand. You hate that in Adam, but you don't see the similarity in Freddie. Part of the dream world, I guess! I have never said anything about shirts or his lifestyle other than some things were harmful for his voice. I am simply saying, yea, they are both gay, but we don't know how they are in real life and we don't know how Freddie would perform today. Brian and Roger knew him well and they are always saying how Freddie would love the sparkly outfits of Adam and have fun with this current show! That might be a clue right there!

SweetCaroline wrote: That 6 foot two hunk is not effeminate. Every bit as macho as Freddie! Maybe more! Camp Elvis !!!!!

MisterCosmicc wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Sexy beast !!!!!

AlbaNo1 wrote: “Personally having seen Elvis( he was my first celebrity crush)” So now you have a crush on Adam Lambert Why don’t you go away, listen to some actual music, and come back when you’ve grown up.

MisterCosmicc wrote: Plenty of books and videos of Freddie’s personal life to see what he’s like. He’s more down to earth than Adam during an interview, sophisticated, casual... mostly conservative mannerisms aside from his sense of humor. Freddie went with a macho image before AIDS was on the lips of anyone. It was a gay trend with the mustache. Freddie didn’t hide his sexuality, he just didn’t need to talk about it. I doubt very much Freddie at 73 would out-gay Adam. Freddie liked to be macho, while Adam likes to take selfies to impress the little girls and boys on his Instagram... and old women. Freddie wouldn’t find Adam attractive at all... not Freddie’s type. Adam is too in your face about his personal life... Freddie didn’t think that was needed. Freddie’s close friends didn’t either. Did you notice he hung out with guys who weren’t so “in your face” about their sexuality constantly? Elton John, Peter Straker, Dave Clarke. Real music artists express themselves through music by writing songs. Adam is definitely not Freddie’s scene... he’d probably be weirded out viewing Adam’s Instagram, Adam seeks attention even in interviews. He wears makeup in every interview I’ve ever seen... all of his photos too.

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam doesn’t wear makeup when he isn’t performing!

SweetCaroline wrote: anadamfan, when they play “Superpower” on capital.fm is it the original version or a “clean” one? Again, I am not personally offended by those 4-letter words, but in the US, radio will not play a song unless they are blurred or omitted altogether.

MisterCosmicc wrote: “Adam doesn’t wear makeup when he isn’t performing! link “ Yes he does

MisterCosmicc wrote: ‘Cause she said he never does when he’s not performing

SweetCaroline wrote: So what, he has bad skin! I had bad skin when I was a teen. I don’t use make-up and I am fine. When you are a stage performer under bright lights you don’t have a choice and have to use it. I care more about the person than his skin. He is a very good looking man, but if he was a rat, I wouldn’t like him as much as I do.

SweetCaroline wrote: His voice is one in a billion and you have never seen him on stage!

MisterCosmicc wrote: Not sure how stable he is. He makes selfie videos of himself crying. He acts like an attention-seeking 11 year old girl.

MisterCosmicc wrote: “ Citizen Vein with Monte Pittman (sp?): link ” He would have sold more records with them.

anadamfan wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: “ Citizen Vein with Monte Pittman (sp?): link ” He would have sold more records with them.

They didn’t make it. Adam had to go back to musical theater to pay the rent. Monte asked him to try out on American Idol, years before Adam finally decided to try that route.

MisterCosmicc wrote: “ Citizen Vein with Monte Pittman (sp?): link ” He would have sold more records with them.

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam on MSNBC: link

SweetCaroline wrote: #VelvetSideA by @AdamLambert is already charting in iTunes in some of the countries where it's available! #1 Singapore #2 New Zealand #3 Australia #3 Malaysia #6 Philippines #187 Vietnam .

runner_70 wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: #VelvetSideA by @AdamLambert is already charting in iTunes in some of the countries where it's available! #1 Singapore #2 New Zealand #3 Australia #3 Malaysia #6 Philippines #187 Vietnam .

Wow really global markets-Asian ladyboys seem to follow their like

MisterCosmicc wrote: Limiting his own sales? What a label he has. No wonder it’s EP’s... they are just testing the waters with him.

anadamfan wrote: It depends on the country. In some countries physical copies are still important, in others they barely exist any longer. You can find some interesting studies online, that survey yearly, how music is bought in different markets. The differences are huge. In Adam‘s case there is no physical copy of the EP available at the moment. It will be only downloads and streaming, that count. But according to Adam‘s own words, he‘s not aiming for great chart positions in the first place. Which is good, because with his strategy he will most probably not make the top ranks this time.

MisterCosmicc wrote: Limiting his own sales? What a label he has. No wonder it’s EP’s... they are just testing the waters with him.

MisterCosmicc wrote: I know about the music business and how his last label released him.

MisterCosmicc wrote: He needs a distribution company to release music digitally?

MisterCosmicc wrote: I don’t need to. Ask him during a Q&A.

rockchic65 wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: He needs a distribution company to release music digitally?

What? He's releasing music digitally and physically and the distribution company do advertising as well but that's not the same as a label who fund the music/album and then have a say in what you do and the time frame for it. Adam can do what he likes now, he can put out whichever song he chooses as a single, put more than one out if he wants, choose the timing and how he promotes it etc, all they do is facilitate things.

rockchic65 wrote: Empire have physical copies available and they're available through Adam's own site, he had signed one's available but they've sold out, not sure if there'll be more but not sure why you thought there were no physical copies available.

anadamfan wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: Empire have physical copies available and they're available through Adam's own site, he had signed one's available but they've sold out, not sure if there'll be more but not sure why you thought there were no physical copies available.

Because Empire sent emails out with the info, that they won’t send these CDs out before mid October. Nothing is available yet. I don’t think, these sales count for next week’s charts, or am I wrong here? As far as I‘ve seen, the only way to get a CD is through Adam’s/Empire‘s online shop. This doesn’t help in the music markets, where physical copies are still important. You would need the CD in the music shops. On the day of the release, not 2 weeks later.

youngballantyne wrote: The only thing worse than Adam Lambert is a bunch of old cock hungry queers arguing about his annoying music.

SweetCaroline wrote: I have two physical copies on order through Amazon!

MisterCosmicc wrote: Velvet Side A peaked at 72 in Australia... failed to chart elsewhere. All the singles failed to chart.

MisterCosmicc wrote: Velvet Side A peaked at 72 in Australia... failed to chart elsewhere. All the singles failed to chart.

SweetCaroline wrote: Velvet Side A is #16 on the final Hits Daily Double: link