bootLuca 23.08.2019 16:02 |
Queen Mannheim, Germany June 21st, 1986 MANNHEIM 1986 NPR/NDR GERMAN PRE-FM MASTER Wardour 353 (CD) ---> Wav with EAC ---> Flac with Xrecode DISC 1 01 - DJ Intro 02 - One Vision 03 - Tie Your Mother Down 04 - In The Lap Of The Gods... Revisited 05 - Seven Seas Of Rhye 06 - Tear It Up 07 - A Kind Of Magic 08 - Day-O 09 - Under Pressure 10 - Another One Bites The Dust 11 - Who Wants to Live Forever 12 - I Want To Break Free 13 - Impromptu 14 - Guitar Solo DISC 2 01 - Now I'm Here 02 - Love Of My Life 03 - Is This The World We Created? 04 - (You're So Square) Baby I Don't Care 05 - Hello Mary Lou (Goodbye Heart) 06 - Tutti Frutti 07 - Bohemian Rhapsody 08 - Hammer To Fall 09 - Crazy Little Thing Called Love 10 - Radio Ga Ga 11 - We Will Rock You 12 - Friends Will Be Friends 13 - We Are The Champions 14 - God Save The Queen 15 - Outro link |
bootLuca 23.08.2019 16:06 |
instructions to download: click on "download" as shown :-) |
pittrek 23.08.2019 16:07 |
Thanks, how does it compare to the old pre-fm source? |
Chinwonder2 23.08.2019 16:11 |
Thanks! -Chin |
bootLuca 23.08.2019 16:26 |
pittrek wrote: Thanks, how does it compare to the old pre-fm source?Which old pre-fm source? from what I remember all the various titles come from broadcasted versions It sounds great (like all other versions) but I haven't compared it yet |
cmi 23.08.2019 16:31 |
What a surprise! Luca, thanks a lot. It will be interesting to compare it with official lossy 'On Air' source... |
bootLuca 23.08.2019 16:39 |
I think it sounds slightly better than other sources but it's not a real "pre-fm" source for example there's a lot of tape hiss in the acoustic tracks and the defect in the intro of Break Free is still here, I think that in a genuine "pre-fm master" these defects should not be there |
cmi 23.08.2019 16:41 |
^ Yes, that's true. Does anyone remember my 3-source merge from 2014 ? |
bootLuca 23.08.2019 16:51 |
cmi wrote: What a surprise! Luca, thanks a lot. It will be interesting to compare it with official lossy 'On Air' source...IMHO the official source is cleaner in the acoustic tracks and more powerful in the rock ones |
pittrek 23.08.2019 17:47 |
Well this is interesting. Starts with an NPR DJ intro? Was this concert ever broadcast on American National Public Radio? Also, it's filled with very weird digital noise, when I open random files in spectral view, there are 2 huge "lines", one slightly below 12kHz and the second one below 15kHz, any idea what it is? |
mrdata1968 23.08.2019 19:26 |
This is a waist of money, how much did it cost? |
SweetCarolina 23.08.2019 21:26 |
Cmon, how much time do we allready have this gig allready in our cd-rooms, 5 or 6 times? Every year some 'new remaster' that nobody can hear the differences. |
pittrek 23.08.2019 21:38 |
You people have a weird way how to say "thank you for the share" |
MAYniac91 23.08.2019 21:55 |
Thanks for this kind share!!!! |
jabbo5150 23.08.2019 22:00 |
Thanks! |
misabeat 24.08.2019 02:36 |
Thank you, Always appreciate new shares. |
. 24.08.2019 04:18 |
bootLuca wrote: I think it sounds slightly better than other sources but it's not a real "pre-fm" source for example there's a lot of tape hiss in the acoustic tracks and the defect in the intro of Break Free is still here, I think that in a genuine "pre-fm master" these defects should not be thereAre you talking about the buzzing during the Break Free intro? If so I'm pretty sure that occurred live, and is not radio interference. Thanks for the upload, but the link does not seem to work. |
bootLuca 24.08.2019 04:38 |
to me it looks like a classic radio interference I tried the link and it works fine, you need to click on the symbol with a down arrow, not on "download with a VPN" please let me know |
. 24.08.2019 04:40 |
pittrek wrote: Was this concert ever broadcast on American National Public Radio?According to the info here, it possibly was: link I also mentioned an NPR US reel to reel listing at the end of this thread on June 2nd: link |
. 24.08.2019 05:12 |
bootLuca wrote: to me it looks like a classic radio interference I tried the link and it works fine, you need to click on the symbol with a down arrow, not on "download with a VPN" please let me knowI'll take a listen to my Mannheim tape recording re interference. Just get a twirly broken circle thingy Luca (no down arrow symbol present), same thing with a different browser. Will try on my laptop later. |
bootLuca 24.08.2019 05:27 |
Did you see the image attached in my 2nd post in this topic? |
. 24.08.2019 06:35 |
Yes, but that screen option does not appear. |
bootLuca 24.08.2019 06:40 |
if you can't solve, let me know an email where I can send you all the files |
White-Queen 24.08.2019 06:42 |
Dear Luca could you please upload this to mega cause i don't make it work either, and i would really like to hear this version Sir:) |
bootLuca 24.08.2019 06:52 |
sorry, I don't use MEGA because I hate it. for all those who have problems downloading these files, please send me a private message with an email address where I can send them |
MarkRW 24.08.2019 07:51 |
Thank you. |
onedunpark 24.08.2019 07:54 |
Thanks Luca |
pmatsynot 24.08.2019 08:27 |
Thank you for the share |
. 24.08.2019 08:43 |
Works on my laptop, but not my desktop PC or phone, thanks again Luca. By the way my tape has the same buzz during the Break free intro, although it could be from the same source recording. |
Queenman!! 24.08.2019 11:45 |
The FM soundboard of the Mannheim performance that has been representing QUEEN’s last “THE MAGIC TOUR” together with the official “LIVE AT WEMBLEY STADIUM” and “HUNGARIAN RHAPSODY”. The original master reel in-kind of the broadcasting station that became a major standard was excavated! It is a decision to make it into a CD with an emergency permanent storage press !! [Observation of master reels of broadcasting stations to obtain miracle] What is contained in such a case board is “Mannheim performance on June 21, 1986”. This show is radio broadcast on NPR (US Public Radio Station) and NDR (North German Broadcasting), and is a large standard among the classics that has produced numerous FM soundboards. In our shop, the ultimate quality board “DEFINITIVE MANNHEIM (Wardour-100)” became a big hit. It is a sound board recording that should be called the treasure of “THE MAGIC TOUR”, but this work makes a distinction from such a group that has already been released. It is a direct digitization from the actual master reels used by radio stations. Moreover, this reel sound source is not on the net. The photograph of the reel actual thing is also published on the right, but this is probably from West Germany. The copies were distributed around the world (including Japan), but this reel was sent to the United States. The FM radio station was put on auction recently, and it was provided by the mania who made a successful bid for it. And when I tried to play that treasure master, the “Dengen of Otogen” including the parts that I could not hear in the past has been flowing out. Before the contents of the shock, here the position of the show. Let’s confirm it in the whole picture of “THE MAGIC TOUR”. |
pittrek 24.08.2019 13:18 |
Queenman!! wrote: The FM soundboard of the Mannheim performance that has been representing QUEEN’s last “THE MAGIC TOUR” together with the official “LIVE AT WEMBLEY STADIUM” and “HUNGARIAN RHAPSODY”. The original master reel in-kind of the broadcasting station that became a major standard was excavated! It is a decision to make it into a CD with an emergency permanent storage press !! [Observation of master reels of broadcasting stations to obtain miracle] What is contained in such a case board is “Mannheim performance on June 21, 1986”. This show is radio broadcast on NPR (US Public Radio Station) and NDR (North German Broadcasting), and is a large standard among the classics that has produced numerous FM soundboards. In our shop, the ultimate quality board “DEFINITIVE MANNHEIM (Wardour-100)” became a big hit. It is a sound board recording that should be called the treasure of “THE MAGIC TOUR”, but this work makes a distinction from such a group that has already been released. It is a direct digitization from the actual master reels used by radio stations. Moreover, this reel sound source is not on the net. The photograph of the reel actual thing is also published on the right, but this is probably from West Germany. The copies were distributed around the world (including Japan), but this reel was sent to the United States. The FM radio station was put on auction recently, and it was provided by the mania who made a successful bid for it. And when I tried to play that treasure master, the “Dengen of Otogen” including the parts that I could not hear in the past has been flowing out. Before the contents of the shock, here the position of the show. Let’s confirm it in the whole picture of “THE MAGIC TOUR”.Well, if you say it like that, I definitely don't want to shock the Dengen of Otogen. |
eYe 24.08.2019 13:58 |
The concert was broadcasted live by the german radio station SWR (South-West-Radio). I remember because I drove with my car about 200 km south until I could get the channel in my radio. I stopped at a highway rest stop and taped it with my radio-recorder. Good old pre-internet times :) Too bad I lost the cassettes during the years... |
mrdata1968 24.08.2019 15:02 |
SWF3 to be precise. I still have a guitar demo by Brian from the same broadcast. And i do hope that the real broadcast tape will emerge. |
dysan 24.08.2019 16:28 |
eYe wrote: The concert was broadcasted live by the german radio station SWR (South-West-Radio). I remember because I drove with my car about 200 km south until I could get the channel in my radio. I stopped at a highway rest stop and taped it with my radio-recorder. Good old pre-internet times :) Too bad I lost the cassettes during the years...Brilliant! The lengths we used to go to before the internet :) |
vivaqueen 24.08.2019 19:53 |
MERCI BEAUCOUP |
Art Lawyer 25.08.2019 01:47 |
Thank you very much! |
Ale Solan 25.08.2019 12:01 |
SweetCarolina wrote: Cmon, how much time do we allready have this gig allready in our cd-rooms, 5 or 6 times? Every year some 'new remaster' that nobody can hear the differences.Nice way to say "Thank you" pathetic cunt. |
Marlamir 25.08.2019 21:21 |
Quicker than i thought, thank you very very much for your kind share |
queenuruguay 27.08.2019 22:38 |
Would any of you be so kind to upload it to MEGA? Thanks in advance. Regards |
. 29.08.2019 06:12 |
So does anyone know if these reels (listed on eBay in the US back in June) are the actual source? link |
aristide1 29.08.2019 11:17 |
The whole lot of reel-to-reel "pre-fm recordings" sold on eBay by "the widow of a well-known producer from US" is a crummy fake. |
. 29.08.2019 11:20 |
But my question was, are they the source? |
Saint Jiub 29.08.2019 18:12 |
Kurgan - You "should" have asked aristide1 first. He knows everything. |
aristide1 30.08.2019 09:59 |
At least I know that nobody gives a fuck on bombastic historical and political references unrelated to Queen, like your forum nickname and motto. Except thomasquinn of course, the other member of the pseudo-intellectual elite. |
tassilo 30.08.2019 14:14 |
Thank you very much. |
. 30.08.2019 14:17 |
But are they the source? |
aristide1 30.08.2019 17:04 |
Practically you are asking if someone from this forum bought the tapes. It's very unlikely, considering that Queen fans are in general cheap. Probably less then 1% have a reel-to-reel recorder, and in any case they wouldn't recognise they've been ripped off. On the good side, they are also generous enough to share it, and smart enough to smell a fake. So my assumption is that no one from here bought it. My scenario is that Wardour prepared the "new pre-fm source", tried to sell the reel-to-reel tapes on ebay to the most gullibles ones, and then cashed the rest with the CDs. Paranoid but plausible. Anyway, what do you know about Wardour except the name? Ebay fakes may be one of their most lucrative activities. |
. 30.08.2019 18:49 |
I believe the eBay listing had no connection with Wardour. Tapes have previousy been supplied to Wardour by individuals who frequent this site. All I'm asking is if the reels from the eBay listing were used for their latest release? Somebody from this site may very well be able to answer that question, but not you obviously. The "On Air" official release offers us only partial and lossy content - unacceptable. |
dajalma 01.09.2019 13:36 |
thankyou very much bootluca |
ColMan 06.01.2020 12:28 |
Can someone please re-upload. The link in the first post is dead.. |
davex26 06.01.2020 13:07 |
Here: link |
ColMan 06.01.2020 13:28 |
Thank you for re-uplading it @davex26 |
Fan76 06.01.2020 19:14 |
Thank you davex26. |
davex26 06.01.2020 19:21 |
No Problem. |