Hello all, this is my first posting here. I grew up in the 70s and 80s in the US, and of course knew Queen, and although I always admired them, for some reason I did not appreciate just how excellent they were until more recent years. I haven't seen Bohemian Rhapsody yet.
Anyway, I jumped onto this forum after a brief Google search came up empty. I'm trying to discuss some issues of belief (yeah, Youtube...sorry) with a Christian person and I took issue with them bad-mouthing Freddie Mercury as an example of a bad person. When I suggested Freddie seemed to me like as decent person based on what I knew, they hit me with this kind of oblique and spurious sounding accusation, and I wonder if it's tied to any facts...like, I'm sure Freddis liked clubs. I have not gotten their source yet, by the way.
Here's the quote: "He was a member of a sexually centered occult club that placed high preference on raping infants. that's a fact, not a belief. I don't know if you're placing him in the "good person" category, but I certainly hope not."
That’s what I call long on opinion but short on data. In other words, the person believes this in the absence of any such infants, or their irate parents. Or any medical reports on these infants, etc.
So worse than short on data, there’s no data at all. Someone made it up.
I hope this person never sits on a jury.
Typical bile that will be spewed forth from a religious fanatics mouth. They associate homosexuals/bisexuals with raping children for some reason. I'm sure if they go and visit their own church they'd probably find a pedo running it.
Thanks, as I expected there ain't much there! I was just wondering if there was some kind of legendary story about Freddie associating with either pedos or just occultists that this person was basing their baseless accusation on. I figured if there was any stories Queen fans would be well aware and rolling their eyes about it. I certainly never heard anything like this before. I can't wait to continue the conversation with this dolt.
Freddie had a 'weird' religion, he wasn't from Britian and he wasn't white, that alone was enough to get people talking, without throwing in the fact he was gay too.
Makka wrote:
Typical bile that will be spewed forth from a religious fanatics mouth. They associate homosexuals/bisexuals with raping children for some reason. I'm sure if they go and visit their own church they'd probably find a pedo running it.
Freddie liked big muscular men. The direct opposite of infants. It's so scummy to accuse people of doing something like that if they're not around to defend themselves, but some people have no morals. In other words, if the source for something shocking about a person is the youtube comment section, or twitter, or reddit or something like that, in 99.99% of cases you can ignore it.
Well, spitball I think it's best to ignore it. I'm often in disbelief when I read any comments sections, add religious fanatism on top and you get a perfect example of entirely unjustified, hateful and frankly illegal comments. However, since you asked, the only few words I read along "similar" lines is a story from Freddie's biographical book written by (much disliked in these circles) Lesley-Ann Jones. If I remember correctly, she recalled an account by a guy named "Patricio", a male prostitute, who apparently met Freddie and reported on him having passive sex with a number of teenage boys during a certain night. And that's it, I have not heard anything along these lines before or after or anything to corroborate this account. Also, the fact he hung out with guys like Winnie Kirchberger or indeed spent many years with Jim Hutton, both grown-up men, should discredit such allegations as far as I'm concerned. Obviously, I never met Freddie in person, but he never seemed "sick" to me.
Thanks, all. I figured it was bullshit, just wondered what kind of things I might hear from actual fans. Years ago, I was an an extremely devout Catholic, and I hung around in circles that influenced me to believe lots of unhealthy things about the world around me, and this person picking on Freddie reminded me a little of myself back then, so I wanted to say some things that might hopefully keep their cognitive dissonance going.
Peace!
sb
Indeed. Better to see those Abrahamic religions for what they really are, man made collections of old stories, symbolism, nonsense and all very distorted through the years before and after they got documented.
But the symbolism part is pretty interesting to me. And stories like the flood go back to the end of the last ice age. When you really start researching this stuff you can find some very interesting things out about it.
Stick wrote:
Indeed. Better to see those Abrahamic religions for what they really are, man made collections of old stories, symbolism, nonsense and all very distorted through the years before and after they got documented.
But the symbolism part is pretty interesting to me. And stories like the flood go back to the end of the last ice age. When you really start researching this stuff you can find some very interesting things out about it.