QueenZone discussion #1558382

OhioMustapha wrote: I have to ask since i am going to see q + al this year for the us tour and i just want you people to tell me if there are any fake fans that just know queen from the movie and claim to be experts that are going to be there probably? Those people piss me off and I wish they never saw the movie or heard about it.

A Word In Your Ear wrote: What is a fake fan?... if you discovered the band in the 1970's or recently due to the Movie or even through Brian and Rogers collaboration with Adam Lambert, if Queen's music brings you enjoyment, then you are a fan... I've been a Queen fan since the 70's but I envy any new fan who has only just discovered Queen... what an amazing journey they have ahead of them listening to the vast Back catalogue of Queen and solo works...

OhioMustapha wrote: I have to ask since i am going to see q + al this year for the us tour and i just want you people to tell me if there are any fake fans that just know queen from the movie and claim to be experts that are going to be there probably? Those people piss me off and I wish they never saw the movie or heard about it.

A Word In Your Ear wrote: What is a fake fan?... if you discovered the band in the 1970's or recently due to the Movie or even through Brian and Rogers collaboration with Adam Lambert, if Queen's music brings you enjoyment, then you are a fan... I've been a Queen fan since the 70's but I envy any new fan who has only just discovered Queen... what an amazing journey they have ahead of them listening to the vast Back catalogue of Queen and solo works...

snifflese wrote: I would think any real Queen fans would be happy with all the success QAL is having. It means the music is getting out there for more peop;le to enjoy, new or old fans.

Metropolis wrote: My definition of "fake fans" are those people who are saying they are a fan of Queen just because the movie was popular. If they actually like Queen though, they shouldn't be considered as fake fans.

Metropolis wrote: My definition of "fake fans" are those people who are saying they are a fan of Queen just because the movie was popular. If they actually like Queen though, they shouldn't be considered as fake fans.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Metropolis wrote: My definition of "fake fans" are those people who are saying they are a fan of Queen just because the movie was popular. If they actually like Queen though, they shouldn't be considered as fake fans.

My definition is the AL fans who claim to be a Queen fan. One who thought Freddie wore the Cape and crown at Live Aid. I can see right through bullshit like that, not hard to notice on Queen boards when they don't even discuss Queen with Freddie very much.

Saint Jiub wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Metropolis wrote: My definition of "fake fans" are those people who are saying they are a fan of Queen just because the movie was popular. If they actually like Queen though, they shouldn't be considered as fake fans.

My definition is the AL fans who claim to be a Queen fan. One who thought Freddie wore the Cape and crown at Live Aid. I can see right through bullshit like that, not hard to notice on Queen boards when they don't even discuss Queen with Freddie very much.

I cannot imagine who you might be talking about? LOL What was AL's last single? It must have flopped because of teenage spammers who like someone else???

rockchic65 wrote: I see @Saint Jiub and butterfly decided to add another number to the troll list you posted, the have a dig at Lambert at all costs troll.

snifflese wrote: Yep, not a fan of Adam's new music. For someone with a great voice he sure has trouble choosing and writing songs. I did like a number of them on the first two albums and several he co-wrote. The last two didn't sound like him and covered up all the things I like about his voice. At some point he needs to realize that he is getting older and pop might not be where it is at for him. People seem to connect with his ballads. Perhaps getting out of the bubble of his friends for business would be a good idea, as they are doing him no favors with the music that he has put out lately. I watched that new song writing show on TV and in each case I picked the song for the artist (big deal, right?), but there are good songwriters out there that could maybe do something for him that suits his voice and his aesthetic. I think I could do a better job filtering through a bunch of songs and finding the right one for him (just kidding, but still). He has gotten more recognition for other people's songs (Cher's, Little Big Town, Rhianna, Queen), so there has to be somebody that could write the perfect Adam Lambert song. I just think he is going for a different feel and it may be a bit late for that. ,CHR, HAC or Lite Classical would be where I see him now. I hate to say that and maybe the rest of the album will prove me wrong, but so far, didn't like the music and hated the look. Hard to say about one of my favorite singers, but just like Icy, I stand by what I say!! Cheers, Icy!! I didn't mention it, but condolences are in order. So sorry about your Dad. I am 12 weeks out of my knee surgery and finally feel like a human. Worst operation ever and that made 4. I kept meaning to tell you that and didn't. They are heartfelt and a virtual hug is also sent to you!

rockchic65 wrote: I see @Saint Jiub and butterfly decided to add another number to the troll list you posted, the have a dig at Lambert at all costs troll.

Saint Jiub wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: I see @Saint Jiub and butterfly decided to add another number to the troll list you posted, the have a dig at Lambert at all costs troll.

Sorry I was not clear, but my comment was not a slap at AL. link It was a well-deserved slap at SweetCaroline, and was meant to reference this "classic" excuse from SweetCaroline when AL's latest single dropped off the charts: "That’s because Adam doesn’t have those 13-year-old tweens constantly playing music on their cells like Mendes and BTS have. Competition is tough when you are 37."

snifflese wrote: I totally forgot Feel Something, which I loved. That is the one that should have been released, although neither of the others were really released since nothing was sent to radio. I don't understand the whole business model about what he is doing. Why put them out there if you don't send it to radio and you don't realistically expect it to chart and you really aren't worried about it, per Adam. That just does not make the least bit of sense to me. I don't stream and I didn't buy the last two, so I think a lot of his older fans (both in age and how long they have been a fan) didn't much care for the new music (last two songs). There is no way many people are going to hear it the way it was done. I hope the next song will appeal to me more. I would just like to get my hands on a DVD with great sound from this tour! I have that Japanese one from several years ago but the sound is poor and they only sang some of the songs they normally do in the set list. Bummer as it was quite expensive. I don't think you ever get over a death like that. My Dad died 10 years ago and I still miss talking to him every evening. We are both night owls and always had a little chat late in the evening just to make sure that all was well. Then I could go to bed knowing he was OK. Time makes it better, but it is never all gone, unfortunately. I am finally getting better and can walk around with no aids, but it still has a way to go. The pain with a knee is indescribable and the PT is the worst of all and I have an extremely high pain tolerance. The worst part is that I need the other one done probably later this year. Not sure I can face that, but I have no choice. I am planning to go and see QAL in Boston on Aug. 4th. It is an outside venue, unfortunately, of about 20,000 but I have seats under some enclosed area, so I just hope it isn't too hot or that it rains, cause that would be a bummer!! I know you laugh at Caroline about the homophobia but I am convinced that was the case after Idol and Adam has said the same thing. He is very honest and wouldn't say that if it were not true. His whole career was almost sidelined after that AMA performance and that was pure homophobia. 10 years later everything is shown on TV but not in 2009. It is truly amazing how far society has come in 10 years. I think had he picked a regular song, sung it like he did on Idol, then he could have had a huge career. But he is a little left of center and does it his own way and there is nothing wrong with that. At some point you have to be true to yourself, just like with the new music. I can't imagine he ever thought that would be a hit, but it is what he wanted to do. I am just glad he is singing Queen's music because those are my favorite songs that he does. Everybody likes something different!

Saint Jiub wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: I see @Saint Jiub and butterfly decided to add another number to the troll list you posted, the have a dig at Lambert at all costs troll.

Sorry I was not clear, but my comment was not a slap at AL. link It was a well-deserved slap at SweetCaroline, and was meant to reference this "classic" excuse from SweetCaroline when AL's latest single dropped off the charts: "That’s because Adam doesn’t have those 13-year-old tweens constantly playing music on their cells like Mendes and BTS have. Competition is tough when you are 37."

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: I see @Saint Jiub and butterfly decided to add another number to the troll list you posted, the have a dig at Lambert at all costs troll.

It's true New Eyes and Coming In Hot didn't do well. I stand by what I said.

Makka wrote: Who honestly gives a fuck who's there. New people discovering the music is not a bad thing.

stevelondon20 wrote: @ironbutterfly Adam would be the first person to say that he is not replacing Freddie.

FriedChicken wrote: Good read! and good work as always! I never paid much attention to the people singing the chorus. I always thought it was just Fredward, I will listen closely to see if I can pick out Roger!

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Makka wrote: Who honestly gives a fuck who's there. New people discovering the music is not a bad thing.

I do . Especially if some of those people think AL has replaced Freddie, and that AL is the better singer and performer. I have read posts on both Queen boards the coronet that AL wears is Brian passing the torch to AL. Truly, that is what someone had the audacity to say. Of course it's a mega Glambert who said that.

Makka wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Makka wrote: Who honestly gives a fuck who's there. New people discovering the music is not a bad thing.

I do . Especially if some of those people think AL has replaced Freddie, and that AL is the better singer and performer. I have read posts on both Queen boards the coronet that AL wears is Brian passing the torch to AL. Truly, that is what someone had the audacity to say. Of course it's a mega Glambert who said that.

So let them think what they want. Would we all be here saying the same things if Paul had of continued singing? Those of us who have worshipped this band since the 70's know who is the better performer and who wrote those songs. Brian & Roger are near the end of their careers and AL will suddenly find himself back to doing solo work and then vanish into obscurity. We all know this is not Queen and a lot of people are horrified that AL is associated with that brand but as I said before, new people discovering this great music is not a bad thing. It's great that the music is being kept alive and it's great to see Brian & Roger enjoying their later years playing the music they helped create which some people on here seem to think they don't have a right to do.

Iron Butterfly wrote: When stupid mistakes are made such as what was assumed what was worn at Live Aid, especially since the information is right there at a person's fingertips, there is no excuse. I took the time and effort and a good bit of money in being a Queen fan since 1992. With the internet there really is no excuse to not knowing the basics. I don't expect the AL fans that post here not to know everything, but man, I wish at least the basics were known since some AL fans post here. No excuse for some of AL's fans to say AL has replaced Freddie, is better than Freddie, and on Queen boards no less. As for Paul at least the man had credblity. Q+PR was more of a rock show than Q+AL could ever hope to be. To me, Q+AL is relying on gimmicks far too much, too often these last few years. Freddie and Queen deserve their legacy. That's their blood, sweat and tears that made Queen what they were, and always will be. AL has been riding on those coattails for years now. I don't think there is any need of Brian to say AL can do what Freddie couldn’t. That's hyperbole to the extreme. And some AL fans lap up what Brian and Roger say about AL.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: When stupid mistakes are made such as what was assumed what was worn at Live Aid, especially since the information is right there at a person's fingertips, there is no excuse. I took the time and effort and a good bit of money in being a Queen fan since 1992. With the internet there really is no excuse to not knowing the basics. I don't expect the AL fans that post here not to know everything, but man, I wish at least the basics were known since some AL fans post here. No excuse for some of AL's fans to say AL has replaced Freddie, is better than Freddie, and on Queen boards no less. As for Paul at least the man had credblity. Q+PR was more of a rock show than Q+AL could ever hope to be. To me, Q+AL is relying on gimmicks far too much, too often these last few years. Freddie and Queen deserve their legacy. That's their blood, sweat and tears that made Queen what they were, and always will be. AL has been riding on those coattails for years now. I don't think there is any need of Brian to say AL can do what Freddie couldn’t. That's hyperbole to the extreme. And some AL fans lap up what Brian and Roger say about AL.

No wonder Brian say's the things he does when he reads stuff like you just wrote. Paul had credibility (why does he and not Adam) because that's exactly what Brian would be asking? So one motorbike and sitting on a piano means the show is FULL of gimmicks? There's less now than in previous shows. Incidentally I'll bet Judas Priest fans don't call it a gimmick when Rob brings his Harley D on stage. How is Adam (who was asked, he didn't force them to tour with him) riding coat tails when they wouldn't be able to tour without him, he's as much a part of the show as they are and the whole thing is only possible if you have a singer. He puts work into the shows just like they do, he's out there singing at a top level night after night, that's called being part of a band and for the tours that's what he is he's not just some hired hand who turns up 5 minutes before the show and wings it. As to the fans who say he's better, so what, I don't agree but then I'm a Queen fan since the early 70's, I grew up listening to Queen with Freddie but for some of Adam's fans they only heard of Queen through him, they're already die hard Adam fans just like you're a die hard Freddie fan. The majority aren't gonna suddenly prefer Freddie to Adam just like Queen fans aren't gonna prefer Adam to Freddie. People like what they like, it's not gonna change their legacy in the slightest.

Iron Butterfly wrote: What did I say that was so "bad"? Paul Rodgers had...and still has more credblity than AL. ever could hope for. His back catalogue speaks for itself. I truly either Q+AL didn't rely on gimmicks. At least with Q+PR there wasn't any gimmicks, it was about the music. How is AL riding on coattails? It seems with his own solo music and solo appearances he manages to usually fit in a cover of a Queen song. That private event, yep Queen covers. American Idol...yep Queen cover. The GMA set, yep you guessed it, Queen cover. I don't mind the AL fans who are now Queen fans because of these tours. What I do mind is the people who think AL is the lead singer for Queen, has replaced Freddie, Brian passing the torch to AL. It's bullshit that I've seen on Queen boards for years now.

runner_70 wrote: Paul had credibilty as he has/had an amazing career as a rock Musician and various incountable Classics in his portfolio. He was the main part in Free and Bad Company. Lameturd is a dance artist pretending to be a rocker. He has zero credibility in rock music . He is a manufactured casting muppet who has never written a song on his own. And you really dare to ask why he has no credibilty?????

Sparks. wrote: When Adam tops Freddie's "Bohemian Rhapsody" and gets called the greatest showman ever like Freddie then i will take Adam serious ! Of course i know it will never happen cos Adam is not a genius like Freddie was.

runner_70 wrote: Paul had credibilty as he has/had an amazing career as a rock Musician and various incountable Classics in his portfolio. He was the main part in Free and Bad Company. Lameturd is a dance artist pretending to be a rocker. He has zero credibility in rock music . He is a manufactured casting muppet who has never written a song on his own. And you really dare to ask why he has no credibilty?????

Sparks. wrote: When Adam tops Freddie's "Bohemian Rhapsody" and gets called the greatest showman ever like Freddie then i will take Adam serious ! Of course i know it will never happen cos Adam is not a genius like Freddie was.

Vocal harmony wrote: When Freddie joined the band, he had no credibility, when they recorded their first album as a new band the name Queen meant nothing and had no credibility. . , They built there own platform and became huge. Lambert is way past the point of being unknown and having no credibility, as a live performer touring with and fronting Queen he has 7 years expereance. . . And is doing a great job for the people who want to see Queen performing. Back in the 70's 7 years of touring put the band around 78/79. The Jazz tour. Runner _70 would have you believe that at that point Queen had no credibility as a live band

Vocal harmony wrote: When Freddie joined the band, he had no credibility,

Sparks. wrote: Freddie was Queen he was the band,

Krypto_98 wrote:

runner_70 wrote: Paul had credibilty as he has/had an amazing career as a rock Musician and various incountable Classics in his portfolio. He was the main part in Free and Bad Company. Lameturd is a dance artist pretending to be a rocker. He has zero credibility in rock music . He is a manufactured casting muppet who has never written a song on his own. And you really dare to ask why he has no credibilty?????

In-countable classics? I can't even name more than 3. and trust me i've actually listened to actually good rock bands

Sparks. wrote: Vocal Harmony You are such a nutter. Freddie was Queen he was the band, the clothes the music the lighting and the style of Queen, he guided the other three band members to stardom and success. Without Freddie, May & Taylor would not have made it as big as they did.

runner_70 wrote:

Krypto_98 wrote:

runner_70 wrote: Paul had credibilty as he has/had an amazing career as a rock Musician and various incountable Classics in his portfolio. He was the main part in Free and Bad Company. Lameturd is a dance artist pretending to be a rocker. He has zero credibility in rock music . He is a manufactured casting muppet who has never written a song on his own. And you really dare to ask why he has no credibilty?????

In-countable classics? I can't even name more than 3. and trust me i've actually listened to actually good rock bands

Bad Company, All RIght Now , Shooting Star, Mr Big, Little Bit of Love, ROckn ROll Fantasy to name a few. Clueless idiot

runner_70 wrote:

Sparks. wrote: Vocal Harmony You are such a nutter. Freddie was Queen he was the band, the clothes the music the lighting and the style of Queen, he guided the other three band members to stardom and success. Without Freddie, May & Taylor would not have made it as big as they did.

AMEN

runner_70 wrote: Approx 1200 cds and vinyl 7" 12" albums etc. Still you have no clue even if you had 10000

Krypto_98 wrote: In terms of Queen i own, The EMI UK CDs The Japan CDs The 1991 Hollywood Records Remasters The 2011 Remasters I also own each of the Mobile Fidelity Gold CD remasters for, ANATO, ADATR, The Game, News of the World DCC remaster of A Night at the Opera I own the SHM-SACDs I also have the 2002 DVD-A of A Night at the Opera The Ultimate Queen Box set CD The Crown Jewels Box set Platinum Collection Box Set Singles Collection Box Set News of the World Box Set I also own their LPs the original Emi LPs The Japanise LPs The Mobile Fidelity LPs (ANATO, The Game, ADATR, News of the World) The Colored Vinyl Box Set All the Singles and 7 inch LP All the Live albums in LP and CD plus DVD/Blu-Ray of Rock Montreal, Wembley, Rainbow,Odeon I also bought the boxset for Rainbow/Odeon. I also have all their albums in 8 track that are available and cassette I also have a massive Yes, Genesis, Pink Floyd Collection. My overall total is 9546 Albums in physical format totaling about $15,000 in value. Your Welcome, I'm a bigger Queen fan than you have a nice day. People stop feeding this troll.

snifflese wrote: Freddie was awesome, but without any one of the four, it just wasn't Queen. Freddie going solo was not a success, nor were the others. Somehow it was the synergy of all of them. The other three wrote many classic Queen songs. My favs are all written by Brian who is also a very skilled songwriter and none of the music would have sounded the same without that magical guitar. So, NO, Queen is not just Freddie!! It is all four of them working together and making amazing music. They ran things through each other and I bet a lot of Freddie's music would not have sounded the same w/o input from the other three. None of them were solo artists, they all made it happen together. I imagine Brian and Roger are sick of hearing this crap again and again and again.

Krypto_98 wrote: In terms of Queen i own, The EMI UK CDs The Japan CDs The 1991 Hollywood Records Remasters The 2011 Remasters I also own each of the Mobile Fidelity Gold CD remasters for, ....... ..................................................

runner_70 wrote:

Krypto_98 wrote: In terms of Queen i own, The EMI UK CDs The Japan CDs The 1991 Hollywood Records Remasters The 2011 Remasters I also own each of the Mobile Fidelity Gold CD remasters for, ANATO, ADATR, The Game, News of the World DCC remaster of A Night at the Opera I own the SHM-SACDs I also have the 2002 DVD-A of A Night at the Opera The Ultimate Queen Box set CD The Crown Jewels Box set Platinum Collection Box Set Singles Collection Box Set News of the World Box Set I also own their LPs the original Emi LPs The Japanise LPs The Mobile Fidelity LPs (ANATO, The Game, ADATR, News of the World) The Colored Vinyl Box Set All the Singles and 7 inch LP All the Live albums in LP and CD plus DVD/Blu-Ray of Rock Montreal, Wembley, Rainbow,Odeon I also bought the boxset for Rainbow/Odeon. I also have all their albums in 8 track that are available and cassette I also have a massive Yes, Genesis, Pink Floyd Collection. My overall total is 9546 Albums in physical format totaling about $15,000 in value. Your Welcome, I'm a bigger Queen fan than you have a nice day. People stop feeding this troll.

Stupid idiot your collection is abut 1/4 of mine you stupid fuckwhit. But what is the point in measuring dicks? YOu have a small penis so what? YOu go to QAL concerts that is giving you no credibilty at all asshole

bucsateflon wrote:

Krypto_98 wrote: In terms of Queen i own, The EMI UK CDs The Japan CDs The 1991 Hollywood Records Remasters The 2011 Remasters I also own each of the Mobile Fidelity Gold CD remasters for, ....... ..................................................

now my turn, In terms of Queen I own, "A kind of magic" cassette tape "Queen 1" cassette tape probably "Innuendo" cassette tape(I can't remember if I bought the tape or someone else in my family.....) Brian May's Red Special guitar book(coffee table book)

Krypto_98 wrote:

bucsateflon wrote:

Krypto_98 wrote: In terms of Queen i own, The EMI UK CDs The Japan CDs The 1991 Hollywood Records Remasters The 2011 Remasters I also own each of the Mobile Fidelity Gold CD remasters for, ....... ..................................................

now my turn, In terms of Queen I own, "A kind of magic" cassette tape "Queen 1" cassette tape probably "Innuendo" cassette tape(I can't remember if I bought the tape or someone else in my family.....) Brian May's Red Special guitar book(coffee table book)

Darn it you win :( I don't even have any books