Star* 19.06.2019 10:52 |
Loopy disrespectful Brian May says Adam Lambert can do everything Freddie could do and even me - really? Seems Mr May has lost the plot and forgotten how Freddie was the greatest song writer in Queen and a fine pianist. Lambert cannot play an instrument or write brilliant songs! Still Brian is getting on in years now and he has become very arrogant and very forgetful of Freddie's brilliance. He always did make a great convincing liar too. |
Star* 19.06.2019 10:55 |
Sorry guys spelling mistake. Should say: Loopy Brian May says Adam Lambert can do everything Freddie could do and even more - really. |
MrFunster 19.06.2019 11:13 |
Very disappointing in brian if this is true. Its all about running the Queen Machine , I guess. |
MrFunster 19.06.2019 11:16 |
Adam Lambert has a terrible voice and he shows his tongue too much... very much over the top and I dont like it. |
MrFunster 19.06.2019 11:26 |
Freddie s voice is much wamer. Paul Rodgers came very close to that, but he didnt reach the high notes. I prefer Freddie as a hologram as part of the show. It looks like brian and roger still want to proof they can perform the quality without freddie. This is not true. if they introduced freddie more often during the show. I think there would still a lot of tickets been sold. I think, For a lot people it isnt a shame that brian and roger cannot perform quality without freddie. These day they perform on a lower level for sure ! |
MrFunster 19.06.2019 11:30 |
I wish there will be a final show soon including freddie and john deacon in hologram |
dudeofqueen 19.06.2019 11:33 |
Inspired, re: >Brian May says Adam Lambert can do everything Freddie could do Brian ought to contribute here - being a complete fuckwit, unaware of Queen's history and with an opinion that is either questionable (at best) or no one gives a fuck about, he'd fit right in. |
dysan 19.06.2019 12:04 |
BRAIN SHULD STICK TO PLAYIN DRUMS AND SHUT HIS MOTH |
The Fairy King 19.06.2019 12:08 |
I don't want to disrupt the nice little gathering of retards you have here, but without a source this thread means nothing. Good luck. |
Star* 19.06.2019 14:16 |
What are we in court now that you need a source to gather your evidence? Get real man, Brian has been defending Lambert since he layed eyes on the twat. Brian has no respect for Freddie spouting off that Adam can do anything Freddie can do and more, how disrespectful and spiteful since Freddie got him and Roger rich. Always thought Brian was super jealous of Freddie. |
junealloway 19.06.2019 14:20 |
interview Brian May : Guitar World . |
Dougie 4 19.06.2019 14:25 |
Brian May comes off as a bully at times, especially on Instagram where he sometimes goes after individuals, who then become targets for his fans. He is a powerful, influential person and should refrain from naming and shaming individuals, many of whom are young girls |
dysan 19.06.2019 14:31 |
I sympathise with him. He can hardly go on the record saying Adam is shit and they shouldn't be with him. The unit obviously works and they're happy with it. Also, older folks + the internet rarely works out. It's still all new and handling easy access to the public usually looks bad for whatever reason. I mean, look at the shit I spout on here. *shakes head sadly* |
Vocal harmony 19.06.2019 14:46 |
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dysan wrote: I mean, look at the shit I spout on here. *shakes head sadly*:-D I got you marked as just about ok! |
rockchic65 19.06.2019 16:51 |
As Fairy King points out it's meaningless without the source so here you go - link The relevant part After Freddie’s passing, it took some time for Queen to tour again. How would you describe the differences between Paul Rodgers and how you now work with Adam Lambert? It’s a good question. They’re both great, of course. We had a fantastic time with Paul. He has his own style, which we integrated into the band. But what happened was, there was a meeting point where we wanted to go deeply into his music — we were influenced by it in the first place. For me, it was a joy to play “All Right Now,” “Can’t Get Enough of Your Love” and all those things. It became difficult as time went on, though. We would play South America, where people didn’t know that music, so we played more Queen songs. Paul dealt with it well, but I think it was hard for him to abandon a lot of his material. We really enjoyed it as an experiment, but as an experiment it had… limits. Eventually, we thought, “It’s probably gone as far as it can. Paul needs to get back to his own career.” Because he couldn’t just go on being the frontman of Queen. By mutual agreement, we thought, “That’s it.” Now, with Adam, it’s a different story, because Adam can do all the stuff that Freddie did and more. It doesn’t matter what you throw at Adam — he can do it. He can do “Good Old-Fashioned Lover Boy” [from 1976’s A Day at the Races], which we wouldn’t dream of throwing at Paul Rodgers, because it just wouldn’t work. With Adam, it’s a different kettle of fish. He’s a born exhibitionist. He’s not Freddie, and he’s not pretending to be him, but he has a parallel set of equipment. He knows how to deal with an audience. He teases and taunts an audience quite naturally, without thinking about it. He loves to dress up. Although Paul did dress up a bit for us. We got a lot of sequins on him. [Laughs] A little bit. Adam lives and breathes that stuff. Adam is style, and that’s not to say he’s not content as well. He’s a born rock star and frontman, so it’s a very vibrant relationship we have with him. We treat Adam exactly the same as we treated Freddie in almost every way. Based on things he's said in the past and how it reads I suspect he means "more" in the context of singing high notes live and not having to alter the key and his voice holding up to touring, he's not meaning he's better than Freddie IMO. He also said this about Freddie. People often think of Freddie as a pianist, but he occasionally played guitar, and he would write with one, too. What kind of guitarist was he? He was very good on the guitar, very unorthodox — all downstrokes. He wrote the riff for “Ogre Battle” [from 1974’s Queen II]. I used to play it with up- and downstrokes, but he was all downstrokes. Imagine how fast his right hand was moving! He had a frenetic energy on the guitar, which came across very well in that song. He played the rhythm on “Crazy Little Thing Called Love.” I wanted to sound as good as Freddie did on that record, which was damn good. He kind of left the guitar after a while and concentrated more on the piano. In the latter days, he even left the piano behind. He just wanted to be a performer who ran around and had the freedom to be a frontman. |
rockchic65 19.06.2019 16:54 |
Dougie 4 wrote: Brian May comes off as a bully at times, especially on Instagram where he sometimes goes after individuals, who then become targets for his fans. He is a powerful, influential person and should refrain from naming and shaming individuals, many of whom are young girlsActually if you read the comments on his instagram it's the fans bullying him, you should see the crap being said to him the other day about the movie and saying he's against LGBT people ffs. |
Makka 19.06.2019 16:59 |
rockchic65 wrote: As Fairy King points out it's meaningless without the source so here you go - link The relevant part After Freddie’s passing, it took some time for Queen to tour again. How would you describe the differences between Paul Rodgers and how you now work with Adam Lambert? It’s a good question. They’re both great, of course. We had a fantastic time with Paul. He has his own style, which we integrated into the band. But what happened was, there was a meeting point where we wanted to go deeply into his music — we were influenced by it in the first place. For me, it was a joy to play “All Right Now,” “Can’t Get Enough of Your Love” and all those things. It became difficult as time went on, though. We would play South America, where people didn’t know that music, so we played more Queen songs. Paul dealt with it well, but I think it was hard for him to abandon a lot of his material. We really enjoyed it as an experiment, but as an experiment it had… limits. Eventually, we thought, “It’s probably gone as far as it can. Paul needs to get back to his own career.” Because he couldn’t just go on being the frontman of Queen. By mutual agreement, we thought, “That’s it.” Now, with Adam, it’s a different story, because Adam can do all the stuff that Freddie did and more. It doesn’t matter what you throw at Adam — he can do it. He can do “Good Old-Fashioned Lover Boy” [from 1976’s A Day at the Races], which we wouldn’t dream of throwing at Paul Rodgers, because it just wouldn’t work. With Adam, it’s a different kettle of fish. He’s a born exhibitionist. He’s not Freddie, and he’s not pretending to be him, but he has a parallel set of equipment. He knows how to deal with an audience. He teases and taunts an audience quite naturally, without thinking about it. He loves to dress up. Although Paul did dress up a bit for us. We got a lot of sequins on him. [Laughs] A little bit. Adam lives and breathes that stuff. Adam is style, and that’s not to say he’s not content as well. He’s a born rock star and frontman, so it’s a very vibrant relationship we have with him. We treat Adam exactly the same as we treated Freddie in almost every way. Based on things he's said in the past and how it reads I suspect he means "more" in the context of singing high notes live and not having to alter the key and his voice holding up to touring, he's not meaning he's better than Freddie IMO. He also said this about Freddie. People often think of Freddie as a pianist, but he occasionally played guitar, and he would write with one, too. What kind of guitarist was he? He was very good on the guitar, very unorthodox — all downstrokes. He wrote the riff for “Ogre Battle” [from 1974’s Queen II]. I used to play it with up- and downstrokes, but he was all downstrokes. Imagine how fast his right hand was moving! He had a frenetic energy on the guitar, which came across very well in that song. He played the rhythm on “Crazy Little Thing Called Love.” I wanted to sound as good as Freddie did on that record, which was damn good. He kind of left the guitar after a while and concentrated more on the piano. In the latter days, he even left the piano behind. He just wanted to be a performer who ran around and had the freedom to be a frontman.Yep, just talking about his vocals, nothing else. Move on. |
Holly2003 19.06.2019 17:03 |
Interesting comments about the split with Paul Rodgers. First time I've heard that as a reason. Does anyone know if the setlists in S. America really changed as much as Brian claims? |
rockchic65 19.06.2019 17:07 |
Holly2003 wrote: Interesting comments about the split with Paul Rodgers. First time I've heard that as a reason. Does anyone know if the setlists in S. America really changed as much as Brian claims?This is a setlist from Chile with Paul link |
dysan 19.06.2019 17:26 |
Interesting setlist. Still quite a lot of new / PR stuff. I'd have hated that. |
Holly2003 19.06.2019 17:48 |
rockchic65 wrote:Thanks. A quick survey of other setlists on that tour does suggest fewer non-Queen songs by the end of the tour; but it does seem an odd reason and the wording suggests some reading between the lines is needed. Firstly, the story has always been that when they started collaborating as Queen+ Rodgers wanted an all-Queen set, and B&R insisted that Rodgers's stuff should get a good airing. So far so good, as that tallies with part of what BrianHolly2003 wrote: Interesting comments about the split with Paul Rodgers. First time I've heard that as a reason. Does anyone know if the setlists in S. America really changed as much as Brian claims?This is a setlist from Chile with Paul link said in the interview. So why then would Rodgers object when fewer of his songs were played, when it was his original idea to play none at all? Maybe he changed his mind over time. Maybe it's an ego thing. But IMO it does seem a bit unlikely. Brian's comment "Paul needs to get back to his own career” seems a bit terse, even though he said it was by mutual consent. Rodgers has since said something similar but different in an important way: he said that they had accomplished everything they set out to do and there was nothing else to achieve. That very media-friendly wording suggests to me something being held back. It's been mentioned on here by someone "in the know" that they had a bust up towards the end of the tour in part because of Rodgers' not bothering to learn the words to songs and using a teleprompter extensively (which perhaps also explains why his phrasing and tempo was often out of step with the band, and also why he never sung the same song the same way from night to night). It was also suggested that Rodgers, Taylor and May weren't getting on together, that they used separate dressing rooms, had two "camps" etc. I suppose in the overall; scheme of things it doesn't really matter, but it's always fascinated me. |
rockchic65 19.06.2019 17:58 |
Holly2003 wrote:Yeah reading between the lines of what they've both said and things said on here I get the feeling they did have a bust up but have decided it's better to say it was by mutual agreement and keep the details quiet. Maybe they've reconciled their differences and don't want things to sound bad, it would be interesting to know what really went on but I doubt we'll find out tbh.rockchic65 wrote:Thanks. A quick survey of other setlists on that tour does suggest fewer non-Queen songs by the end of the tour; but it does seem an odd reason and the wording suggests some reading between the lines is needed. Firstly, the story has always been that when they started collaborating as Queen+ Rodgers wanted an all-Queen set, and B&R insisted that Rodgers's stuff should get a good airing. So far so good, as that tallies with part of what Brian said in the interview. So why then would Rodgers object when fewer of his songs were played, when it was his original idea to play none at all? Maybe he changed his mind over time. Maybe it's an ego thing. But IMO it does seem a bit unlikely. Brian's comment "Paul needs to get back to his own career” seems a bit terse, even though he said it was by mutual consent. Rodgers has since said something similar but different in an important way: he said that they had accomplished everything they set out to do and there was nothing else to achieve. That very media-friendly wording suggests to me something being held back. It's been mentioned on here by someone "in the know" that they had a bust up towards the end of the tour in part because of Rodgers' not bothering to learn the words to songs and using a teleprompter extensively (which perhaps also explains why his phrasing and tempo was often out of step with the band, and also why he never sung the same song the same way from night to night). It was also suggested that Rodgers, Taylor and May weren't getting on together, that they used separate dressing rooms, had two "camps" etc. I suppose in the overall; scheme of things it doesn't really matter, but it's always fascinated me.Holly2003 wrote: Interesting comments about the split with Paul Rodgers. First time I've heard that as a reason. Does anyone know if the setlists in S. America really changed as much as Brian claims?This is a setlist from Chile with Paul link |
The Real Wizard 19.06.2019 17:58 |
Brian is in marketing mode. And he's not fabricating at all. Obviously he's talking about Freddie and Adam in the LIVE environment, not in the studio. This should be a given considering the only work he and Roger have ever done with the latter is LIVE work. He's talking about Lambert's voice. Not creativity or showmanship. He has made this clear numerous times. Apart from much of the 79-82 era, he's basically right - Lambert is the more consistent and disciplined live singer. And if anyone has listened to more than the officially released live albums, they'd know that. |
dysan 19.06.2019 18:12 |
Yep I agree it's pretty clear. I don't get why there's continued discussion about it apart from the boohooing. |
Chief Mouse 19.06.2019 18:22 |
Wizard, spot on. I don't particularly enjoy Lambert but that is a fact. Give Brian a break. It's barely anything to do with Freddie and doesn't undermine him in any way. We know Freddie's live capabilities. |
King of all Queen fans 19.06.2019 18:46 |
Brian is a grumpy old money grabbing machine who has lost touch with the real world. Used to be a sympathatic guy but since several years behaves like a Dick with a capital D There you go |
Star* 19.06.2019 18:50 |
Brian is talking bull, how is Lambert better than Freddie and more exactly ? Freddie was an outstanding song writer and pianist he was too clever for Adam Lambert and that is a fact, Freddie is regarded as the greatest Rock male singer ever. Freddie wrote some belting songs that Lambert would never achieve so Mr. May is been very spiteful and selling Adam yet again. Hype is Lambert's middle name. |
rockchic65 19.06.2019 18:53 |
Inspired wrote: Brian is talking bull, how is Lambert better than Freddie and more exactly ? Freddie was an outstanding song writer and pianist he was too clever for Adam Lambert and that is a fact, Freddie is regarded as the greatest Rock male singer ever. Freddie wrote some belting songs that Lambert would never achieve so Mr. May is been very spiteful and selling Adam yet again. Hype is Lambert's middle name.Have you actually read the article of the other comments by Real Wizard, Chief Mouse, Dysan? He isn't talking about Adam as a songwriter, pianist etc. |
Star* 19.06.2019 18:57 |
King of all Queen fans - Yeah Brian and Roger have become hard nosed arrogant fools disrespecting Freddie now for 8 years and using him to make money with holograms and pictures in the concerts. He is very rude to make Adam look better than Freddie, how dare he do that when Freddie worked his ass off with the band over those 21 years, Freddie wrote many many great songs and is arguably the greatest song writer in Queen, so maybe Brian is pissed off about that. |
Star* 19.06.2019 18:59 |
Rockchic Brian says Adam can do everything Freddie could do and MORE........What is the more bit then? |
Day dop 19.06.2019 19:07 |
Lambert's voice is thin, harsh, and grating. |
Day dop 19.06.2019 19:10 |
Roger Taylor could also sing higher than Freddie. So Taylor was more consistent than Mercury in that way too. So what? Does it mean that Taylor or Lambert are better singers overall? No, far from it. |
Day dop 19.06.2019 19:14 |
May is wrong though. Lambert's range doesn't go as low as Mercury's. Lambert cannot play piano. He can't write songs that come anywhere close to Freddie's. He's nowhere near on the same level as a front-man, despite what May says (how many people come away from them shows saying "He's no Freddie"). His voice is thin and shitty sounding in comparison. But whatever, May's happy to shit all over Freddie if it means promoting tacky crap. |
Star* 19.06.2019 19:17 |
Freddie is a legend lets get that straight, Adam is not. Brian hypes Adam at every opportunity he gets and we all know this is a publicity stunt. Many Many Queen fans have told him Lambert is no where near as dynamic as Freddie and Brian does not like to hear the truth. I still believe on some level he was so jealous of Freddie getting the most attention in Queen, and having the most success with his song writing. |
Star* 19.06.2019 19:19 |
Day drop I agree with your post, spot on. |
bucsateflon 19.06.2019 19:58 |
The Real Wizard wrote: Brian is in marketing mode. And he's not fabricating at all. Obviously he's talking about Freddie and Adam in the LIVE environment, not in the studio. This should be a given considering the only work he and Roger have ever done with the latter is LIVE work. He's talking about Lambert's voice. Not creativity or showmanship. He has made this clear numerous times. Apart from much of the 79-82 era, he's basically right - Lambert is the more consistent and disciplined live singer. And if anyone has listened to more than the officially released live albums, they'd know that.This demented troll is right, this time. Must have been the medicine working on him |
rockchic65 19.06.2019 20:05 |
Wow, don't let facts get in the way of having a bitchfest about Adam again will ya, confirmation bias is alive and well I see. |
Wiley 19.06.2019 21:01 |
Wow. Nice trolling there. I think it's blatantly obvious Brian is referring to Adam's LIVE SINGING abilities, not overall talent or some other crap. He can hit the high notes on every single Queen song live, which Freddie rarely did, and he does it consistently over the course of a tour. That's a fact. I don't know what the big deal is. This doesn't negate any of Freddie's skills or his legacy. If you don't like the sound of his voice or his style or whatever, then so be it, but I think it's been proven -over and over- for 7-8 years now that Adam is a good fit for a Queen singer. I've seen them live 9 times in the U.S. and the audience just LOVES him. On the other hand, I saw Brian and Roger 5 times with Paul: 4 of them in Europe, where nobody gave a crap about Paul and once in the U.S., where it was a more varied crowd and they responded better to Paul. Still, nowhere near the good response that I saw in every single Q+AL show. |
Jimmy Dean 19.06.2019 23:33 |
Could it be everyone is right? If I was still 15, I’d agree, Brian is a total douchebag dissing Freddie... everyone is hotheaded when they’re young and immature. But now I’m 35, and I think Brian’s comments are spot on. Actually the Wizard said it best from my point of view, today. With maturity, we learn how to understand Brian’s comments without distorting his intent. He never said Adam is better than Freddie. Nor did he say Adam is as good as Freddie. He meant Adam can handle the duties just as Freddie did. Whereas Paul Rodgers, who is CLEARLY a better vocalist than Adam Lambert, could not. |
Makka 20.06.2019 03:48 |
*sigh* *shakes head* |
The Circle of Eidolon 20.06.2019 03:51 |
This thread was started by the narrowest of minds trying to present a broad view of dislike towards a member of the band he claims to be a fan of. Again providing no proof was his only proof. Yet again jumping in a shallow puddle of an unfounded version of a perverse reality that feeds his mind. He repeatedly covers the same subject, gaining no respect and showing little understanding of the subject he preaches. What is worse is that he sees fit to argue with the person who presented the article from which he based his "lesson" then argued with people far more knowledgeable then he. Again he has learned nothing, again he has faced reality with closed eyes and ears. The Circle of Eidolon has one question. . . . That is. Inspired, by what? While you splash in your puddle you will not see the incoming deep tide of reality that will wash over you. . It will be at that point you realise that you "inspired" can not swim. The Circle of Eidolon has spoken. . . |
Day dop 20.06.2019 04:00 |
May didn't merely say "high the hit notes", he said Lambert can do the stuff that Mercury did and more. T Well no. He can't. as has already been pointed out on this thread. He might be able to sing almost as high as Roger Taylor could. |
Day dop 20.06.2019 04:02 |
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Day dop 20.06.2019 04:02 |
May didn't merely say "high the hit notes", he said Lambert can do the stuff that Mercury did and more. Well no. He can't. as has already been pointed out on this thread. He might be able to hit the high notes that Roger Taylor could when he was younger though. |
Day dop 20.06.2019 04:06 |
Let's face it, May's artistic judgement has been shot in many ways for years. Evidenced by his collaborations with Dappy, Five or whoever. |
Day dop 20.06.2019 04:18 |
Jimmy Dean wrote: Could it be everyone is right? If I was still 15, I’d agree, Brian is a total douchebag dissing Freddie... everyone is hotheaded when they’re young and immature. But now I’m 35, and I think Brian’s comments are spot on. Actually the Wizard said it best from my point of view, today. With maturity, we learn how to understand Brian’s comments without distorting his intent. He never said Adam is better than Freddie. Nor did he say Adam is as good as Freddie. He meant Adam can handle the duties just as Freddie did. Whereas Paul Rodgers, who is CLEARLY a better vocalist than Adam Lambert, could not.You're missing the point. There's zero distortion. May said: “Adam can do all the stuff that Freddie did and more." If you don't think that's May saying Lambert is "better", then I suggest you look up the definition of the word better, the re-read what May said again. Even if you want to argue May's intent, the end result is the same, it's yet another example of May shitting over Freddie's memory, whether it was done intentionally out of spite towards the "troll" in the heat of moment or not. . |
Day dop 20.06.2019 04:39 |
Wouldn't it be better to put the Adam Lambert crap in the Queen+AL part of the forum where it belongs as opposed to here? I'm a fan of Queen. Not Queen+ AL. |
Star* 20.06.2019 06:28 |
Brian is only hyping Adam because he knows Adam is his only ticket to staying in the public eye so he is making use of the fact. Brian is been very disrespectful to Freddie though by putting Adam on top of the mountain because he surely does not deserve that praise at all. Adam is a mediocre singer which any cruise ship or men.s choir would have in its attendance. Freddie was the brains and the style and flair behind Queen and with out him Queen would not have existed and May & Taylor would not have been millionaires that is for sure. |
rockchic65 20.06.2019 06:35 |
Circle of Eidolon is right as usual, pity no lesson will be learned, confirmation bias at it's finest as usual. |
dysan 20.06.2019 06:40 |
Lets have vote. It's the only way we can settle this. |
Jimmy Dean 20.06.2019 07:01 |
Day dop wrote:You just pissed on my rug, dude.Jimmy Dean wrote: Could it be everyone is right? If I was still 15, I’d agree, Brian is a total douchebag dissing Freddie... everyone is hotheaded when they’re young and immature. But now I’m 35, and I think Brian’s comments are spot on. Actually the Wizard said it best from my point of view, today. With maturity, we learn how to understand Brian’s comments without distorting his intent. He never said Adam is better than Freddie. Nor did he say Adam is as good as Freddie. He meant Adam can handle the duties just as Freddie did. Whereas Paul Rodgers, who is CLEARLY a better vocalist than Adam Lambert, could not.You're missing the point. There's zero distortion. May said: “Adam can do all the stuff that Freddie did and more." If you don't think that's May saying Lambert is "better", then I suggest you look up the definition of the word better, the re-read what May said again. Even if you want to argue May's intent, the end result is the same, it's yet another example of May shitting over Freddie's memory, whether it was done intentionally out of spite towards the "troll" in the heat of moment or not. . I read it again but not the definition to better as I believe you are distorting what Brian literally said. He did say he can do what Freddie did and more. But he didn’t say that he is better than Freddie. It is the definition “and more” that is being misconstrued.... Adam uses props, does more wardrobe changes, does tease the audience and speak to the audience a fair bit more than Freddie did... and I’ve been to 2 shows... he gets annoying to listen to after a while. What “and more” did Brian mean? Is it more plausible to assume the list above? Or does it suit everyone to assume he meant better vocals or that he is better at writing songs, etc. I agree, Adam does do “more” to compensate for what he lacks. And as such, does a fuckin ace job under the circumstances of not actually being Freddie Mercury. |
The Fairy King 20.06.2019 07:09 |
Haha outragezone. Classic. |
Makka 20.06.2019 07:39 |
Inspired wrote: Brian is only hyping Adam because he knows Adam is his only ticket to staying in the public eye so he is making use of the fact. Brian is been very disrespectful to Freddie though by putting Adam on top of the mountain because he surely does not deserve that praise at all. Adam is a mediocre singer which any cruise ship or men.s choir would have in its attendance. Freddie was the brains and the style and flair behind Queen and with out him Queen would not have existed and May & Taylor would not have been millionaires that is for sure.Oh boo to Brian & Roger for wanting to continue to play live and keep the music they helped create relevant! They are enjoying themselves whilst they can because soon they won't be able to like this anymore. Brian is hyping Adam because, well he's singing their songs with them. He's part of the act. What the fuck do you expect him to say? No, he isn't no Freddie but he is giving Brian & Roger that outlet to still perform these songs. THAT'S WHAT MUSICIANS DO! And good luck to them if Queen is all about marketing these days, because you know what, it has always been about marketing and promoting which in turn brings money. Surprising that. I don't see Brian being disrespectful to Freddie at all. |
Dougie 4 20.06.2019 10:12 |
Some like it hot some like it cold, some like it in the pot nine days old ... |
Star* 20.06.2019 10:42 |
To all of you nay sayer's check out The Daily Star newspaper page 3 who have caught wind of this story. "Circle of Eidolon" and "Rock Chic" you are talking shit again and wrong . Everyone is talking bout this disgraceful comment from Brian and he has shocked the rock world with his dumb words. I am disgusted that by May and he has just made "£25 million out of Freddie with the Bo Rhap film and now he is shitting on his name. |
rockchic65 20.06.2019 11:08 |
Inspired wrote: To all of you nay sayer's check out The Daily Star newspaper page 3 who have caught wind of this story. "Circle of Eidolon" and "Rock Chic" you are talking shit again and wrong . Everyone is talking bout this disgraceful comment from Brian and he has shocked the rock world with his dumb words. I am disgusted that by May and he has just made "£25 million out of Freddie with the Bo Rhap film and now he is shitting on his name.You really don't seem to get how the media works based on this comment, of course all the media outlets are gonna run with the story and use a clickbait headline, it works on people like you who believe what's said and don't look further than the headline. Who even knows exactly what he said in the original article, that could have been re worded and sound different than he meant it as well. Everything Brian has said about Adam has been in relation to his live vocals so I've no doubt that's what he's referring to here as well and anyone with a brain would know he's not talking about musicianship, songwriting etc. He was also talking about it in relation to the Paul Rodgers era meaning they can do songs with Adam that they couldn't have done with Paul, none of that is a diss to Freddie but that won't stop the media making it sound that way and it won't stop idiots from believing it unfortunately. |
Queen Fan MS 20.06.2019 11:12 |
I am new to this forum. English is not my first language so please excuse me if there are any errors. My introduction to queen was thru listening to the first few notes of 'Under Pressure' which was in Jan 2017 (way before the movie came out and before I was even aware that a movie was going to be made!) which I liked very much. Then I heard Don't Stop me now in an Emirates ad and I was totally hooked to Freddie's voice and Brian's guitar solo. I got goosebumps when first time I listened to 'My Fairy King' especially the ending with the guitar and piano. The entire song always brings a tear to my eye for some reason, the lyrics, Freddie's voice and the ending! I am no expert in Queen or music. I think I just have a good ear for melody and I like the music of Queen a lot! Brian May's comments regarding Adam was in response to differences in working with Adam and Paul. This is how I understood it. When he meant that Adam can do all the stuff that Freddie did and more, it was more about the different types of songs that Freddie sang, which they could not do with Paul and he gave an example of 'Good old Fashioned Lover boy'. As Mr.Jimmy Dean pointed out, the 'more' part is about Adam's exhibitionism, how he dresses up, teases and taunts the audience etc. in addition to his ability to sing the type of songs that Freddie sang. In the next line he says, 'Adam is style, and that’s not to say he’s not content as well' which the way it is said shows (according to me atleast), he is not praising Adam's vocals to the skies which is what I think he means by content here. The part about, He’s a born rock star and frontman, is just additional praise to satisfy the fans! I don't think Brian is being disrespectful to Freddie here as in the very next question, he even praises Freddie's guitar skills. Adam too has been respectful to Freddie. Did he not say recently somewhere that Freddie is Queen? That being said, Adam Lambert is not my cup of tea nor is Marc Martel. I am a fan of Queen. IMO, Brian and Roger can perform with whoever they feel comfortable and happy with. They helped Freddie in his last years by protecting him from media and writing him lines so he could sing and not think about his illness. I wish they also release something (older live concerts, alternate takes of songs etc..) every year to satisfy the fans who are not into Q+ stuff. Then everyone will be happy! |
dysan 20.06.2019 11:47 |
Welcome to QZ. Nice post. |
Star* 20.06.2019 12:32 |
So what about the comment of Brian's saying Adam is the "gift of god" and Freddie would love and hate him? Never ever heard Brian saying Freddie was the gift of god when Queen were together those 21 years? |
dysan 20.06.2019 12:44 |
We've done this to death in minute detail. Explaining to you at every step in simple terms what these turns of phrase mean. It's not worth continuing as the only possible explanation for your difficulty of grasping what he means is that you are being purposefully obtuse. |
Queen Fan MS 20.06.2019 13:05 |
Thank you Dysan. |
Vocal harmony 20.06.2019 13:07 |
Inspired, you now claim that Brian is only hyping up Lambert to keep himself relevant. . . This of course is the complete opposite of Lambert only hangs around May and Taylor because his own career is down the toilet. So which is it. . . That's such a brilliantly executed U turn you should be running for Conservative party leader. Oh and if you're getting your "news facts" from The Star. . . . Good luck |
Star* 20.06.2019 13:32 |
Vocal Harmony This news broke out yesterday long before the The Star got hold of it. Brian is crafty and does things to suit himself as we all know, one minute he is jumping from the roof tops saying Adam Lambert is the best thing since Asda Toilet rolls and the next he is licking Freddie's arse when the Bo Rhap film came out he is two faced and now he claims Adam can do anything Freddie can do - really? How about writing a song like Bohemian Rhapsody or Somebody to love or teaming up with an opera legend or even dancing with The Royal Ballet? Lambert does not deserve all the hype to get tickets sold because a lot of fans are going crazy about Brian and his foolish comments. He has lost the plot. |
Vocal harmony 20.06.2019 13:41 |
Go a buy a copy of guitar world. Read the interview p, then at least you'll be reading the comments in context. The news didn't break anywhere, someone miss quoted Brian and tried to turn it into a news item. Strange that the press spent years doing the same thing to Freddie, and the band in general but now your willing to accept that kind of trash as real |
dysan 20.06.2019 13:54 |
That's a good point. He's being whipped into a frenzy by the enemy propaganda. Like the kid in a war movie who goes mad and tries to kill everyone because he couldn't take the pressure. |
The Real Wizard 20.06.2019 14:19 |
Inspired wrote: Rockchic Brian says Adam can do everything Freddie could do and MORE........What is the more bit then?Taken out of context and combined with your inability to practice basic reading comprehension separated from your own biases, you're absolutely right. |
The Real Wizard 20.06.2019 14:28 |
Inspired wrote: Never ever heard Brian saying Freddie was the gift of god when Queen were together those 21 years?Because it was work. Nobody in 1977 thought their current band or any of its members were "legendary" or a "gift from god". It was a job, and they did it. They weren't analyzing what they were doing. Only decades of hindsight can have these guys realize how special their bands were. If it takes a "gift from god" to sit in for someone like Freddie, it's still a compliment to him, because that's how high the bar has to be set. |
bucsateflon 20.06.2019 14:32 |
take your pills you loopy, nutter, fruitcake, are you trying to get 30 thousand posts this week? |
Day dop 20.06.2019 15:00 |
Jimmy Dean wrote:In no way, shape, or form have I distorted anything. In fact, I've quoted May's words.Day dop wrote:You just pissed on my rug, dude. I read it again but not the definition to better as I believe you are distorting what Brian literally said. He did say he can do what Freddie did and more. But he didn’t say that he is better than Freddie. It is the definition “and more” that is being misconstrued.... Adam uses props, does more wardrobe changes, does tease the audience and speak to the audience a fair bit more than Freddie did... and I’ve been to 2 shows... he gets annoying to listen to after a while. What “and more” did Brian mean? Is it more plausible to assume the list above? Or does it suit everyone to assume he meant better vocals or that he is better at writing songs, etc. I agree, Adam does do “more” to compensate for what he lacks. And as such, does a fuckin ace job under the circumstances of not actually being Freddie Mercury.Jimmy Dean wrote: Could it be everyone is right? If I was still 15, I’d agree, Brian is a total douchebag dissing Freddie... everyone is hotheaded when they’re young and immature. But now I’m 35, and I think Brian’s comments are spot on. Actually the Wizard said it best from my point of view, today. With maturity, we learn how to understand Brian’s comments without distorting his intent. He never said Adam is better than Freddie. Nor did he say Adam is as good as Freddie. He meant Adam can handle the duties just as Freddie did. Whereas Paul Rodgers, who is CLEARLY a better vocalist than Adam Lambert, could not.You're missing the point. There's zero distortion. May said: “Adam can do all the stuff that Freddie did and more." If you don't think that's May saying Lambert is "better", then I suggest you look up the definition of the word better, the re-read what May said again. Even if you want to argue May's intent, the end result is the same, it's yet another example of May shitting over Freddie's memory, whether it was done intentionally out of spite towards the "troll" in the heat of moment or not. . |
Day dop 20.06.2019 15:12 |
May also said, "He’s not Freddie, and he’s not pretending to be him, but he has a parallel set of equipment." No, Lambert does not have a parallel set of equipment whatsoever. "Mercury’s vocal cords just moved faster than other people’s. While a typical vibrato will fluctuate between 5.4 Hz and 6.9 Hz, Mercury’s was 7.04 Hz. To look at that in a more scientific way, a perfect sine wave for vibrato assumes the value of 1, which is pretty close to where famous opera singer Luciano Pavarotti sat. Mercury, on the other hand, averaged a value of 0.57, meaning he was vibrating something in his throat even Pavarotti couldn’t move." link link |
Star* 20.06.2019 15:13 |
Brian has been hyping Lambert up for the past 8 years so nothing is new here. You lot on here refuse to accept that Brian is been disrespectful to Freddie, because he was jealous of Freddie and that is why they had loads of bust ups in the studio because Brian was so slow and Freddie got on to him about it. Get real Brian has become so desperate enough to get the tickets sold and make folk curious to go to the concerts to check out Adam its a plot and a lot of people have fallen for it. |
Star* 20.06.2019 15:17 |
Day drop Lets see if Vocal Harmony or her user name Circle of Eidolon comments on your post, Mrs righteous now i have spoken lol |
The Real Wizard 20.06.2019 15:19 |
Inspired wrote: You lot on here refuse to accept that Brian is been disrespectful to FreddieNo. You have trouble accepting that others don't agree with your opinions. As ever, you have no idea how to differentiate between your personal opinions and facts. What's the end game of your little crusade here? Have you slowed down the ticket sales or had their Oscars for the Bohemian Rhapsody film revoked with those 2193 posts? |
The Real Wizard 20.06.2019 15:27 |
Day dop wrote: May also said, "He’s not Freddie, and he’s not pretending to be him, but he has a parallel set of equipment." No, Lambert does not have a parallel set of equipment whatsoever. "Mercury’s vocal cords just moved faster than other people’s. While a typical vibrato will fluctuate between 5.4 Hz and 6.9 Hz, Mercury’s was 7.04 Hz. To look at that in a more scientific way, a perfect sine wave for vibrato assumes the value of 1, which is pretty close to where famous opera singer Luciano Pavarotti sat. Mercury, on the other hand, averaged a value of 0.57, meaning he was vibrating something in his throat even Pavarotti couldn’t move." link linkSure. And at his best nobody could touch him. But let's not forget that said equipment sometimes failed for entire tours. Have you listened to the bootleg tapes from 1979 and 84? Brian is in marketing mode. Of course he's going to say nice things about the person who's sitting in for the greatest frontman of all time. He can't say he's not quite as good. |
Star* 20.06.2019 15:29 |
Brian should keep his mouth shut and not say things like Adam can do what Freddie does and MORE......... Disrespectful to the late great Freddie, |
brunolezouf 20.06.2019 15:35 |
Had Marc Martel been "chosen" to perform with what is left of Queen, there would have been other (or the same, maybe?) complaints probably saying that he is nothing more than an imitator who has skills to play the piano and that he is there to collect money from the Queen cash machine. If you work with someone and you have chosen to do so, you can't be something else than supportive (and this is obviously what May is), or you stop working with that person (reminds me of a story between a certain band called Queen and a singer called Paul Rodgers, maybe they wisely stopped working together because they thought supporting each other woud be complicated but did not want to go into ridiculous criticism from each part in the press or end in a bad mood towards each other, I don't know, I'm not in their mind) people Booing Lambert all the time make me think of my dad who has a favourite singer, long dead now, but can't bear hearing singers singing his songs as a tribute, just because it does not match with the imaginary world he has built around this singer. The sound doesn't fit with the picture any more when he can hear tributes to his favourite singer. Maybe it is a way of expressing some kind of childish frustration in a different way now that he is an adult. I like the way Marc Martel sings Queen songs and I think George Michael was very good at it too. I don't like the way Lambert does it. But that's fine to me if people enjoy it. I've tried to listen to shows of Q+AL but I couldn't get into it. I didn't feel the sing along thing I experience with original Freddie Mercury or even Martel. Lambert has a great voice( and yes I think he is able to sing without having to alter the notes because his voice gets strained) and I wouldn't be able to sing half the way he does, he is very talented and if Queen members are happy to play with him, so who would I be to insult Lambert (or May who supports him) like some people do on this forum. If you don't like it, just don't listen to it. There are enough roios of original Queen to listen to and enjoy. |
Day dop 20.06.2019 15:50 |
The Real Wizard wrote:It's as though May is comparing a Ferrari with a Nissan. However, the Ferrari's engine used to act up during long runs. So May is saying that the Nissan has a parallel set of equipment.Day dop wrote: May also said, "He’s not Freddie, and he’s not pretending to be him, but he has a parallel set of equipment." No, Lambert does not have a parallel set of equipment whatsoever. "Mercury’s vocal cords just moved faster than other people’s. While a typical vibrato will fluctuate between 5.4 Hz and 6.9 Hz, Mercury’s was 7.04 Hz. To look at that in a more scientific way, a perfect sine wave for vibrato assumes the value of 1, which is pretty close to where famous opera singer Luciano Pavarotti sat. Mercury, on the other hand, averaged a value of 0.57, meaning he was vibrating something in his throat even Pavarotti couldn’t move." link linkSure. And at his best nobody could touch him. But let's not forget that said equipment sometimes failed for entire tours. Have you listened to the bootleg tapes from 1979 and 84? Brian is in marketing mode. Of course he's going to say nice things about the person who's sitting in for the greatest frontman of all time. He can't say he's not quite as good. May doesn't need to do that anyway, even for marketing purposes (and I know you're not saying that he does). When it comes to marketing, the movie did wonders for them, and they were already shifting enough tickets before. |
The Real Wizard 20.06.2019 16:21 |
Inspired wrote: Brian should keep his mouth shut and not say things like Adam can do what Freddie does and MORE......... Disrespectful to the late great Freddie,You're out of your league. You couldn't even qualify for a high school debating team. |
dudeofqueen 20.06.2019 16:28 |
The Real Wizard, re: >Nobody in 1977 thought their current band or any of its members were "legendary" or a "gift from god". Apart from Freddie, obviously: "I'm not going to be a star, I'm going to be a legend!" |
frank152 20.06.2019 17:56 |
When is everyone gonna realise that Queen + is not Queen. If u don’t like Queen + don’t go to the gigs. Most people who slag it off haven’t been to a Queen + show. People take everything to heart to much For example does Adam have problems singing the high bits live? No Did Freddie? yes with his vocal problems often letting roger carry the high notes. That’s an example of something “more” than Freddie Freddie is only human at the end of the day. Does that make Freddie shit no Is Adam shit no. I personally think Adam sings who wants to live forever better than Freddie live to the point gives me chills. And i’ve Heard other Freddie fans say that. What Brian n roger has done is great for queens legacy they have kept Queen in public eye all these years n people are still talking about them. And in turn keeping Freddie very much alive. |
Jimmy Dean 20.06.2019 18:01 |
Day dop wrote: May also said, "He’s not Freddie, and he’s not pretending to be him, but he has a parallel set of equipment." No, Lambert does not have a parallel set of equipment whatsoever. "Mercury’s vocal cords just moved faster than other people’s. While a typical vibrato will fluctuate between 5.4 Hz and 6.9 Hz, Mercury’s was 7.04 Hz. To look at that in a more scientific way, a perfect sine wave for vibrato assumes the value of 1, which is pretty close to where famous opera singer Luciano Pavarotti sat. Mercury, on the other hand, averaged a value of 0.57, meaning he was vibrating something in his throat even Pavarotti couldn’t move." link linkmore distortion. yes, Brian said parallel equipment. He chose his words wisely... he didn't use the word "same" nor did he use terms such as "talent", "league", "skills", etc... he used "equipment"... he purposefully used a generic term and described it as "parallel". Actually the definition of a "parallel" should be enough to suggest he did not mean the word "same". also, never qualified that equipment. he didn't say the quality of the equipment that adam has is equivalent to Freddie's. not once. my reading skills are quite good. as are my interpretive skills. i can probably say, you and i have the same equipment in that regard. we clearly both have brains, and a device of some sort to communicate with. so far, i didn't insult you... but i you may think i did if i had your interpretive skills ;-) back to "parallel set of equipment"... parallel, would mean "side by side and having the same distance continuously between them"... equipment would mean "the necessary items for a particular purpose". i believe he chose the word parallel to mean, no, he is not as good as freddie, as there will always be that same distance between them. But yes, they do have the same "equpiment"... such that they have great voices, can play with the audience, have stage presence, etc etc... and hey, while we're at it... and more: wardrobe changes, more interaction, greater sense of humility, etc etc etc (Stuff a lot of us find annoying... but is still quantifiable as "more"). And finally, the guy has a PhD... so yes, i do believe, he chose his words, to mean exactly what he said... and not what you have quickly interpreted. |
Day dop 20.06.2019 18:03 |
frank152 wrote: When is everyone gonna realise that Queen + is not Queen. If u don’t like Queen + don’t go to the gigs. Most people who slag it off haven’t been to a Queen + show. People take everything to heart to much For example does Adam have problems singing the high bits live? No Did Freddie? yes with his vocal problems often letting roger carry the high notes. That’s an example of something “more” than Freddie Freddie is only human at the end of the day. Does that make Freddie shit no Is Adam shit no. I personally think Adam sings who wants to live forever better than Freddie live to the point gives me chills. And i’ve Heard other Freddie fans say that. What Brian n roger has done is great for queens legacy they have kept Queen in public eye all these years n people are still talking about them. And in turn keeping Freddie very much alive.I think people already know that Queen and Queen+ aren't the same thing. The issue is when you log into Queenzone and see Lambert stuff in the Queen section, or you have to unfollow the Queen page on facebook as they keep promoting Lambert, when you consider him to be nothing other than tacky. I have been to a Queen+AL show, back when he started singing for May and Taylor. And what you see on YouTube is the same as what you get in real life. Harsh, grating vocals. Sure, Lambert can hit the high notes whereas Freddie couldn't when he suffered from vocal nodlues. But that's just one thing. Everything else, Mercury did way better, so May's choice of words was poor. Overall, Mercury had a far soupier voice and was 10 times the front-man Lambert could ever wish to be. Is Adam shit? Yes, in my opinion. I find his voice intolerable, and his style tacky as hell. Lambert doesn't sing anything better as Lambert's voice is thin, harsh and grating. Freddie had a wonderful tone to his voice. |
Day dop 20.06.2019 18:09 |
Jimmy Dean wrote:Yes, May said "equipment", hence I dropped the link to the scientific journal. What part of this don't you grasp?Day dop wrote: May also said, "He’s not Freddie, and he’s not pretending to be him, but he has a parallel set of equipment." No, Lambert does not have a parallel set of equipment whatsoever. "Mercury’s vocal cords just moved faster than other people’s. While a typical vibrato will fluctuate between 5.4 Hz and 6.9 Hz, Mercury’s was 7.04 Hz. To look at that in a more scientific way, a perfect sine wave for vibrato assumes the value of 1, which is pretty close to where famous opera singer Luciano Pavarotti sat. Mercury, on the other hand, averaged a value of 0.57, meaning he was vibrating something in his throat even Pavarotti couldn’t move." link linkmore distortion. yes, Brian said parallel equipment. He chose his words wisely... he didn't use the word "same" nor did he use terms such as "talent", "league", "skills", etc... he used "equipment"... he purposefully used a generic term and described it as "parallel". Actually the definition of a "parallel" should be enough to suggest he did not mean the word "same". also, never qualified that equipment. he didn't say the quality of the equipment that adam has is equivalent to Freddie's. not once. my reading skills are quite good. as are my interpretive skills. i can probably say, you and i have the same equipment in that regard. we clearly both have brains, and a device of some sort to communicate with. so far, i didn't insult you... but i you may think i did if i had your interpretive skills ;-) back to "parallel set of equipment"... parallel, would mean "side by side and having the same distance continuously between them"... equipment would mean "the necessary items for a particular purpose". i believe he chose the word parallel to mean, no, he is not as good as freddie, as there will always be that same distance between them. But yes, they do have the same "equpiment"... such that they have great voices, can play with the audience, have stage presence, etc etc... and hey, while we're at it... and more: wardrobe changes, more interaction, greater sense of humility, etc etc etc (Stuff a lot of us find annoying... but is still quantifiable as "more"). And finally, the guy has a PhD... so yes, i do believe, he chose his words, to mean exactly what he said... and not what you have quickly interpreted. You've not read the journal, have you? Here's the direct link to the journal: link But I get the impression from all you've said so far that you're making a bad faith argument, and you're not interested in the facts here. I think you need to look up the word "distortion". I've already pointed out that I didn't distort anything in the first place. You've not acknowledged that. Instead, bizarrely, you come out with "more distortion". No. Not at all. Lambert does not have a parallel set of equipment whatsoever. I've already said this, and dropped the link to the articles that you can click on to reach the scientific journal and read about Mercury's voice. I hope you're not going to carry on down the same road, as that would suggest you have a poor understanding of the English language. |
Jimmy Dean 20.06.2019 18:31 |
Day dop wrote:i'm rarely wrong. not here, definitely not.Jimmy Dean wrote:You don't like being proved wrong, do you? I think you need to look up the word "distortion". I've already pointed out that I didn't distort anything in the first place. You've not acknowledged that. Instead, bizarrely, you come out with "more distortion". No. Not at all. Lambert does not have a parallel set of equipment whatsoever. I've already said this, and dropped the link to the articles that you can click on to reach the scientific journal and read about Mercury's voice. Your reading and interpretation skills seem to be as bad as your English.Day dop wrote: May also said, "He’s not Freddie, and he’s not pretending to be him, but he has a parallel set of equipment." No, Lambert does not have a parallel set of equipment whatsoever. "Mercury’s vocal cords just moved faster than other people’s. While a typical vibrato will fluctuate between 5.4 Hz and 6.9 Hz, Mercury’s was 7.04 Hz. To look at that in a more scientific way, a perfect sine wave for vibrato assumes the value of 1, which is pretty close to where famous opera singer Luciano Pavarotti sat. Mercury, on the other hand, averaged a value of 0.57, meaning he was vibrating something in his throat even Pavarotti couldn’t move." link linkmore distortion. yes, Brian said parallel equipment. He chose his words wisely... he didn't use the word "same" nor did he use terms such as "talent", "league", "skills", etc... he used "equipment"... he purposefully used a generic term and described it as "parallel". Actually the definition of a "parallel" should be enough to suggest he did not mean the word "same". also, never qualified that equipment. he didn't say the quality of the equipment that adam has is equivalent to Freddie's. not once. my reading skills are quite good. as are my interpretive skills. i can probably say, you and i have the same equipment in that regard. we clearly both have brains, and a device of some sort to communicate with. so far, i didn't insult you... but i you may think i did if i had your interpretive skills ;-) back to "parallel set of equipment"... parallel, would mean "side by side and having the same distance continuously between them"... equipment would mean "the necessary items for a particular purpose". i believe he chose the word parallel to mean, no, he is not as good as freddie, as there will always be that same distance between them. But yes, they do have the same "equpiment"... such that they have great voices, can play with the audience, have stage presence, etc etc... and hey, while we're at it... and more: wardrobe changes, more interaction, greater sense of humility, etc etc etc (Stuff a lot of us find annoying... but is still quantifiable as "more"). And finally, the guy has a PhD... so yes, i do believe, he chose his words, to mean exactly what he said... and not what you have quickly interpreted. distortion: the action of giving a misleading account or impression. (you're making me use a dictionary for the first time in maybe 20 years! and it ends up proving me.... great king rat drum roll....rrrrrrright again sir). i don't have the best interpretation skills, i work with many people who are better than i, and yes it's possible that my interpretation skills are as good or as bad as my english. I'm not an english major nor do i pretend to be - i'm just a lowly highly trained tax expert that reads and interprets taxation acts, legal cases and other trivial mumbo jumbo like that. i need to work on my queenzone interpretive skills where you are only correct if you believe adam lambert is the worst thing to happen to a queenfan regardless of the outcome. i understand that I need to learn to accept it. alas, this is my greatest weakness. one day, i too, will see the light. |
rockchic65 20.06.2019 18:38 |
Anyone not completely biased would understand what Brian meant. Can do more than Freddie is clearly referring to his vocal stamina and ability to hit high notes, sing in the original key for an entire tour without problems. That's fact and has been proved over and over. Parallel set of equipment IMO means he is able to interact with the audience and entertain them, not the same way Freddie did since he's nothing like Freddie but in Brian's opinion he's great at that type of thing in his own way, as evidenced by the reaction at the shows. Also he's flamboyant and theatrical, also in a different way to Freddie but that's still his persona and in Brian's opinion that fits with Queen and is what they need. He mentioned clothes/style etc and Adam clearly thinks that's important as did Freddie, again they aren't alike in the way they do things but both liked to dress up. Parallel (meaning doing the same things but in a different way). He was clearly only talking about the live shows and not including song writing, musicianship etc. He also said they treat Adam almost the same way the treated Freddie, which I take to mean he's not just a hired hand and the shows are a joint venture and they all have a part in putting them together. IMO he's tired of all the crap that gets thrown at Adam and is putting the record straight, as did Roger. None of that is a slight against Freddie and none of it takes away from what they achieved as a band with Freddie. Anyone who thinks otherwise is deliberately reading things into it that weren't meant IMO. |
Holly2003 20.06.2019 18:41 |
If Fred is as talented and as great as we all believe, then a few words by the band's guitarist isn't going to change that. |
dysan 20.06.2019 18:42 |
I wonder what the reaction would be if he said the Queen session bassist was all John was, and more? |
dysan 20.06.2019 18:43 |
Actually scrub that. I don't want to know. |
Day dop 20.06.2019 18:45 |
Jimmy Dean wrote:So now you should understand that you've been misapplying the word "distortion" when it comes to what I've said.Day dop wrote:i'm rarely wrong. not here, definitely not. distortion: the action of giving a misleading account or impression. (you're making me use a dictionary for the first time in maybe 20 years! and it ends up proving me.... great king rat drum roll....rrrrrrright again sir). i don't have the best interpretation skills, i work with many people who are better than i, and yes it's possible that my interpretation skills are as good or as bad as my english. I'm not an english major nor do i pretend to be - i'm just a lowly highly trained tax expert that reads and interprets taxation acts, legal cases and other trivial mumbo jumbo like that. i need to work on my queenzone interpretive skills where you are only correct if you believe adam lambert is the worst thing to happen to a queenfan regardless of the outcome. i understand that I need to learn to accept it. alas, this is my greatest weakness. one day, i too, will see the light.Jimmy Dean wrote:You don't like being proved wrong, do you? I think you need to look up the word "distortion". I've already pointed out that I didn't distort anything in the first place. You've not acknowledged that. Instead, bizarrely, you come out with "more distortion". No. Not at all. Lambert does not have a parallel set of equipment whatsoever. I've already said this, and dropped the link to the articles that you can click on to reach the scientific journal and read about Mercury's voice. Your reading and interpretation skills seem to be as bad as your English.Day dop wrote: May also said, "He’s not Freddie, and he’s not pretending to be him, but he has a parallel set of equipment." No, Lambert does not have a parallel set of equipment whatsoever. "Mercury’s vocal cords just moved faster than other people’s. While a typical vibrato will fluctuate between 5.4 Hz and 6.9 Hz, Mercury’s was 7.04 Hz. To look at that in a more scientific way, a perfect sine wave for vibrato assumes the value of 1, which is pretty close to where famous opera singer Luciano Pavarotti sat. Mercury, on the other hand, averaged a value of 0.57, meaning he was vibrating something in his throat even Pavarotti couldn’t move." link linkmore distortion. yes, Brian said parallel equipment. He chose his words wisely... he didn't use the word "same" nor did he use terms such as "talent", "league", "skills", etc... he used "equipment"... he purposefully used a generic term and described it as "parallel". Actually the definition of a "parallel" should be enough to suggest he did not mean the word "same". also, never qualified that equipment. he didn't say the quality of the equipment that adam has is equivalent to Freddie's. not once. my reading skills are quite good. as are my interpretive skills. i can probably say, you and i have the same equipment in that regard. we clearly both have brains, and a device of some sort to communicate with. so far, i didn't insult you... but i you may think i did if i had your interpretive skills ;-) back to "parallel set of equipment"... parallel, would mean "side by side and having the same distance continuously between them"... equipment would mean "the necessary items for a particular purpose". i believe he chose the word parallel to mean, no, he is not as good as freddie, as there will always be that same distance between them. But yes, they do have the same "equpiment"... such that they have great voices, can play with the audience, have stage presence, etc etc... and hey, while we're at it... and more: wardrobe changes, more interaction, greater sense of humility, etc etc etc (Stuff a lot of us find annoying... but is still quantifiable as "more"). And finally, the guy has a PhD... so yes, i do believe, he chose his words, to mean exactly what he said... and not what you have quickly interpreted. You wrote, "i'm rarely wrong. not here, definitely not." Then this is one of those occasions where you are wrong. You've not read the journal, have you? Yes, May said "equipment", hence I dropped the link to the scientific journal. Here's the direct link to the journal: link |
Day dop 20.06.2019 18:54 |
Double post. |
Star* 20.06.2019 18:58 |
So Brian has had more than his fair share of digs at Freddie and even attacked John by saying "John was delicate" and Roger saying "Fred is dead" get over it! May & Taylor have become bitter old men. |
Jimmy Dean 20.06.2019 19:03 |
Day dop wrote:i wasn't clear - sorry, what i meant was you distort the word equipment to mean quality of vocal chords, but i'm using the simple definition in that the equipment is the vocal chords - not the quality. the "distortion" i speak of is that you are giving a misleading impression of what brian meant when he said "parallel set of equipment"... he did not definitely mean that the quality of the equipment was the same... which is exactly why he said "parallel".Jimmy Dean wrote:So now you should understand that you've been misapplying the word "distortion" when it comes to what I've said. Yes, May said "equipment", hence I dropped the link to the scientific journal. What part of this don't you grasp? You've not read the journal, have you? Here's the direct link to the journal: linkDay dop wrote:i'm rarely wrong. not here, definitely not. distortion: the action of giving a misleading account or impression. (you're making me use a dictionary for the first time in maybe 20 years! and it ends up proving me.... great king rat drum roll....rrrrrrright again sir). i don't have the best interpretation skills, i work with many people who are better than i, and yes it's possible that my interpretation skills are as good or as bad as my english. I'm not an english major nor do i pretend to be - i'm just a lowly highly trained tax expert that reads and interprets taxation acts, legal cases and other trivial mumbo jumbo like that. i need to work on my queenzone interpretive skills where you are only correct if you believe adam lambert is the worst thing to happen to a queenfan regardless of the outcome. i understand that I need to learn to accept it. alas, this is my greatest weakness. one day, i too, will see the light.Jimmy Dean wrote:You don't like being proved wrong, do you? I think you need to look up the word "distortion". I've already pointed out that I didn't distort anything in the first place. You've not acknowledged that. Instead, bizarrely, you come out with "more distortion". No. Not at all. Lambert does not have a parallel set of equipment whatsoever. I've already said this, and dropped the link to the articles that you can click on to reach the scientific journal and read about Mercury's voice. Your reading and interpretation skills seem to be as bad as your English.Day dop wrote: May also said, "He’s not Freddie, and he’s not pretending to be him, but he has a parallel set of equipment." No, Lambert does not have a parallel set of equipment whatsoever. "Mercury’s vocal cords just moved faster than other people’s. While a typical vibrato will fluctuate between 5.4 Hz and 6.9 Hz, Mercury’s was 7.04 Hz. To look at that in a more scientific way, a perfect sine wave for vibrato assumes the value of 1, which is pretty close to where famous opera singer Luciano Pavarotti sat. Mercury, on the other hand, averaged a value of 0.57, meaning he was vibrating something in his throat even Pavarotti couldn’t move." link linkmore distortion. yes, Brian said parallel equipment. He chose his words wisely... he didn't use the word "same" nor did he use terms such as "talent", "league", "skills", etc... he used "equipment"... he purposefully used a generic term and described it as "parallel". Actually the definition of a "parallel" should be enough to suggest he did not mean the word "same". also, never qualified that equipment. he didn't say the quality of the equipment that adam has is equivalent to Freddie's. not once. my reading skills are quite good. as are my interpretive skills. i can probably say, you and i have the same equipment in that regard. we clearly both have brains, and a device of some sort to communicate with. so far, i didn't insult you... but i you may think i did if i had your interpretive skills ;-) back to "parallel set of equipment"... parallel, would mean "side by side and having the same distance continuously between them"... equipment would mean "the necessary items for a particular purpose". i believe he chose the word parallel to mean, no, he is not as good as freddie, as there will always be that same distance between them. But yes, they do have the same "equpiment"... such that they have great voices, can play with the audience, have stage presence, etc etc... and hey, while we're at it... and more: wardrobe changes, more interaction, greater sense of humility, etc etc etc (Stuff a lot of us find annoying... but is still quantifiable as "more"). And finally, the guy has a PhD... so yes, i do believe, he chose his words, to mean exactly what he said... and not what you have quickly interpreted. If two people walked in parallel forever, will they ever meet? if freddie's equpment is parallel to adam's and say, freddie's is better... based on brian's analogy, will adam ever be as good as freddie? essentially, we are both saying the same thing, freddie does have better equipment. i'm saying, brian never qualified adam's nor freddie's equipment - maybe he should have. rather than to insult adam, who he is currently working with, he simply said parallel equipment... which could BOTH be argued to mean better equipment, or worse equipment... there is not one person in the world who would argue that adam's "equipment" is better than freddie's.... they are "parallel".... which again, does not mean they are the of the same quality. that is all i am saying. but no, sorry, i didn't get a chance to read the journal... if they define equipment as quality of vocals, then yes, maybe i am wrong in that case. i used the definition that 99.99% use found on wikipedia. |
rockchic65 20.06.2019 19:03 |
Inspired wrote: So Brian has had more than his fair share of digs at Freddie and even attacked John by saying "John was delicate" and Roger saying "Fred is dead" get over it! May & Taylor have become bitter old men.Brian hasn't had digs at Freddie and has in interview talked very highly of him, as you'd know if you bothered to watch some of them instead of believing headlines. Roger didn't say "get over it", that's another of your examples of distorting what is actually said and making it sound worse. |
Day dop 20.06.2019 19:12 |
Jimmy Dean wrote:Except I've not distorted what May said at all. I'm going on what May actually said. You've been going on what you want to interpret it as.Day dop wrote:i wasn't clear - sorry, what i meant was you distort the word equipment to mean quality of vocal chords, but i'm using the simple definition in that the equipment is the vocal chords - not the quality. the "distortion" i speak of is that you are giving a misleading impression of what brian meant when he said "parallel set of equipment"... he did not definitely mean that the quality of the equipment was the same... which is exactly why he said "parallel". If two people walked in parallel forever, will they ever meet? if freddie's equpment is parallel to adam's and say, freddie's is better... based on brian's analogy, will adam ever be as good as freddie? essentially, we are both saying the same thing, freddie does have better equipment. i'm saying, brian never qualified adam's nor freddie's equipment - maybe he should have. rather than to insult adam, who he is currently working with, he simply said parallel equipment... which could BOTH be argued to mean better equipment, or worse equipment... there is not one person in the world who would argue that adam's "equipment" is better than freddie's.... they are "parallel".... which again, does not mean they are the of the same quality. that is all i am saying. but no, sorry, i didn't get a chance to read the journal... if they define equipment as quality of vocals, then yes, maybe i am wrong in that case. i used the definition that 99.99% use found on wikipedia.Jimmy Dean wrote:So now you should understand that you've been misapplying the word "distortion" when it comes to what I've said. Yes, May said "equipment", hence I dropped the link to the scientific journal. What part of this don't you grasp? You've not read the journal, have you? Here's the direct link to the journal: linkDay dop wrote:i'm rarely wrong. not here, definitely not. distortion: the action of giving a misleading account or impression. (you're making me use a dictionary for the first time in maybe 20 years! and it ends up proving me.... great king rat drum roll....rrrrrrright again sir). i don't have the best interpretation skills, i work with many people who are better than i, and yes it's possible that my interpretation skills are as good or as bad as my english. I'm not an english major nor do i pretend to be - i'm just a lowly highly trained tax expert that reads and interprets taxation acts, legal cases and other trivial mumbo jumbo like that. i need to work on my queenzone interpretive skills where you are only correct if you believe adam lambert is the worst thing to happen to a queenfan regardless of the outcome. i understand that I need to learn to accept it. alas, this is my greatest weakness. one day, i too, will see the light.Jimmy Dean wrote:You don't like being proved wrong, do you? I think you need to look up the word "distortion". I've already pointed out that I didn't distort anything in the first place. You've not acknowledged that. Instead, bizarrely, you come out with "more distortion". No. Not at all. Lambert does not have a parallel set of equipment whatsoever. I've already said this, and dropped the link to the articles that you can click on to reach the scientific journal and read about Mercury's voice. Your reading and interpretation skills seem to be as bad as your English.Day dop wrote: May also said, "He’s not Freddie, and he’s not pretending to be him, but he has a parallel set of equipment." No, Lambert does not have a parallel set of equipment whatsoever. "Mercury’s vocal cords just moved faster than other people’s. While a typical vibrato will fluctuate between 5.4 Hz and 6.9 Hz, Mercury’s was 7.04 Hz. To look at that in a more scientific way, a perfect sine wave for vibrato assumes the value of 1, which is pretty close to where famous opera singer Luciano Pavarotti sat. Mercury, on the other hand, averaged a value of 0.57, meaning he was vibrating something in his throat even Pavarotti couldn’t move." link linkmore distortion. yes, Brian said parallel equipment. He chose his words wisely... he didn't use the word "same" nor did he use terms such as "talent", "league", "skills", etc... he used "equipment"... he purposefully used a generic term and described it as "parallel". Actually the definition of a "parallel" should be enough to suggest he did not mean the word "same". also, never qualified that equipment. he didn't say the quality of the equipment that adam has is equivalent to Freddie's. not once. my reading skills are quite good. as are my interpretive skills. i can probably say, you and i have the same equipment in that regard. we clearly both have brains, and a device of some sort to communicate with. so far, i didn't insult you... but i you may think i did if i had your interpretive skills ;-) back to "parallel set of equipment"... parallel, would mean "side by side and having the same distance continuously between them"... equipment would mean "the necessary items for a particular purpose". i believe he chose the word parallel to mean, no, he is not as good as freddie, as there will always be that same distance between them. But yes, they do have the same "equpiment"... such that they have great voices, can play with the audience, have stage presence, etc etc... and hey, while we're at it... and more: wardrobe changes, more interaction, greater sense of humility, etc etc etc (Stuff a lot of us find annoying... but is still quantifiable as "more"). And finally, the guy has a PhD... so yes, i do believe, he chose his words, to mean exactly what he said... and not what you have quickly interpreted. There's been plenty of examples of how it's been interpreted different ways on this very thread, by some defending May's words. Examples including thinking it's his interaction with the audience, some think it's about Lambert hitting the high notes. I'm going on what the actual words May said. And Lambert does not have a parallel set of equipment. |
Day dop 20.06.2019 19:16 |
Repeat post |
dysan 20.06.2019 20:44 |
Can you just quote the bit you are responding to please? Thanks xx |
Jimmy Dean 20.06.2019 23:28 |
Day dop wrote:Brian’s a dick.Jimmy Dean wrote:Except I've not distorted what May said at all. I'm going on what May actually said. You've been going on what you want to interpret it as. There's been plenty of examples of how it's been interpreted different ways on this very thread, by some defending May's words. Examples including thinking it's his interaction with the audience, some think it's about Lambert hitting the high notes. I'm going on what the actual words May said. And Lambert does not have a parallel set of equipment.Day dop wrote:i wasn't clear - sorry, what i meant was you distort the word equipment to mean quality of vocal chords, but i'm using the simple definition in that the equipment is the vocal chords - not the quality. the "distortion" i speak of is that you are giving a misleading impression of what brian meant when he said "parallel set of equipment"... he did not definitely mean that the quality of the equipment was the same... which is exactly why he said "parallel". If two people walked in parallel forever, will they ever meet? if freddie's equpment is parallel to adam's and say, freddie's is better... based on brian's analogy, will adam ever be as good as freddie? essentially, we are both saying the same thing, freddie does have better equipment. i'm saying, brian never qualified adam's nor freddie's equipment - maybe he should have. rather than to insult adam, who he is currently working with, he simply said parallel equipment... which could BOTH be argued to mean better equipment, or worse equipment... there is not one person in the world who would argue that adam's "equipment" is better than freddie's.... they are "parallel".... which again, does not mean they are the of the same quality. that is all i am saying. but no, sorry, i didn't get a chance to read the journal... if they define equipment as quality of vocals, then yes, maybe i am wrong in that case. i used the definition that 99.99% use found on wikipedia.Jimmy Dean wrote:So now you should understand that you've been misapplying the word "distortion" when it comes to what I've said. Yes, May said "equipment", hence I dropped the link to the scientific journal. What part of this don't you grasp? You've not read the journal, have you? Here's the direct link to the journal: linkDay dop wrote:i'm rarely wrong. not here, definitely not. distortion: the action of giving a misleading account or impression. (you're making me use a dictionary for the first time in maybe 20 years! and it ends up proving me.... great king rat drum roll....rrrrrrright again sir). i don't have the best interpretation skills, i work with many people who are better than i, and yes it's possible that my interpretation skills are as good or as bad as my english. I'm not an english major nor do i pretend to be - i'm just a lowly highly trained tax expert that reads and interprets taxation acts, legal cases and other trivial mumbo jumbo like that. i need to work on my queenzone interpretive skills where you are only correct if you believe adam lambert is the worst thing to happen to a queenfan regardless of the outcome. i understand that I need to learn to accept it. alas, this is my greatest weakness. one day, i too, will see the light.Jimmy Dean wrote:You don't like being proved wrong, do you? I think you need to look up the word "distortion". I've already pointed out that I didn't distort anything in the first place. You've not acknowledged that. Instead, bizarrely, you come out with "more distortion". No. Not at all. Lambert does not have a parallel set of equipment whatsoever. I've already said this, and dropped the link to the articles that you can click on to reach the scientific journal and read about Mercury's voice. Your reading and interpretation skills seem to be as bad as your English.Day dop wrote: May also said, "He’s not Freddie, and he’s not pretending to be him, but he has a parallel set of equipment." No, Lambert does not have a parallel set of equipment whatsoever. "Mercury’s vocal cords just moved faster than other people’s. While a typical vibrato will fluctuate between 5.4 Hz and 6.9 Hz, Mercury’s was 7.04 Hz. To look at that in a more scientific way, a perfect sine wave for vibrato assumes the value of 1, which is pretty close to where famous opera singer Luciano Pavarotti sat. Mercury, on the other hand, averaged a value of 0.57, meaning he was vibrating something in his throat even Pavarotti couldn’t move." link linkmore distortion. yes, Brian said parallel equipment. He chose his words wisely... he didn't use the word "same" nor did he use terms such as "talent", "league", "skills", etc... he used "equipment"... he purposefully used a generic term and described it as "parallel". Actually the definition of a "parallel" should be enough to suggest he did not mean the word "same". also, never qualified that equipment. he didn't say the quality of the equipment that adam has is equivalent to Freddie's. not once. my reading skills are quite good. as are my interpretive skills. i can probably say, you and i have the same equipment in that regard. we clearly both have brains, and a device of some sort to communicate with. so far, i didn't insult you... but i you may think i did if i had your interpretive skills ;-) back to "parallel set of equipment"... parallel, would mean "side by side and having the same distance continuously between them"... equipment would mean "the necessary items for a particular purpose". i believe he chose the word parallel to mean, no, he is not as good as freddie, as there will always be that same distance between them. But yes, they do have the same "equpiment"... such that they have great voices, can play with the audience, have stage presence, etc etc... and hey, while we're at it... and more: wardrobe changes, more interaction, greater sense of humility, etc etc etc (Stuff a lot of us find annoying... but is still quantifiable as "more"). And finally, the guy has a PhD... so yes, i do believe, he chose his words, to mean exactly what he said... and not what you have quickly interpreted. |
The Circle of Eidolon 21.06.2019 00:06 |
Inspired wrote: Day drop Lets see if Vocal Harmony or her user name Circle of Eidolon comments on your post, Mrs righteous now i have spoken lolWe The Circle of Eidolon are aware that you have spoken much but have said nothing. . . The lesson is obvious, but not to you. You as usual have gained nothing. . The laughing idiot is no more than that, laugh all you want. The Circle of Eidolon has spoken |
Star* 21.06.2019 06:21 |
Circle of Eidolon: I do not want any more arguments on here so keep your thought to yourself and shut the fuck up. |
runner_70 21.06.2019 21:39 |
Day dop wrote: I think people already know that Queen and Queen+ aren't the same thing. The issue is when you log into Queenzone and see Lambert stuff in the Queen section, or you have to unfollow the Queen page on facebook as they keep promoting Lambert, when you consider him to be nothing other than tacky. I have been to a Queen+AL show, back when he started singing for May and Taylor. And what you see on YouTube is the same as what you get in real life. Harsh, grating vocals. Sure, Lambert can hit the high notes whereas Freddie couldn't when he suffered from vocal nodlues. But that's just one thing. Everything else, Mercury did way better, so May's choice of words was poor. Overall, Mercury had a far soupier voice and was 10 times the front-man Lambert could ever wish to be. Is Adam shit? Yes, in my opinion. I find his voice intolerable, and his style tacky as hell. Lambert doesn't sing anything better as Lambert's voice is thin, harsh and grating. Freddie had a wonderful tone to his voice.Awesome some up! Kudos to you! |
kosimodo 21.06.2019 22:20 |
This agaain? Man o man. Seen Adam with Queen 3 times. Enjoyed it a lot. More then with that other guy. And yes He was even more special. Sadly died too soon. |
Sheer Brass Neck 22.06.2019 02:53 |
Tired argument, Adam Lambert can hit notes and perhaps, or even likely, more consistently in a live setting. Freddie Mercury was a rock and roll monster vocally, Adam Lambert has a shrill, tiny voice that is what Broadway thinks is rock and roll. Don't care who thinks who is better live he;'s a fantastic fit for ballads and pop, pretty poor at rock and roll. |
Metropolis 22.06.2019 02:53 |
Look, Adam is an OK singer, alright? He'll probably be fine if he was with his own band. But nooooooooo, he tries to replace THE greatest singer in history. I have no problem with Adam Lambert, but Queen+Adam Lambert can never be Queen. |
Metropolis 22.06.2019 02:54 |
Freddie Mercury's voice is strong even when he hits high notes. Adam Lambert sounds like the chicken from the BoRhap movie when he tries to match them. |
Dougie 4 22.06.2019 04:44 |
There is something about Freddie's voice, it touches the heart...he put so much passion into his songs |
bucsateflon 22.06.2019 07:13 |
"There is something about Freddie's voice" Yeah its called TIMBRE, he was born with it. "he put so much passion into his songs" ...like all other singers in this world.... |
Dougie 4 22.06.2019 08:31 |
Not all singers put in the same passion as Freddie did...and I love his way of singing |
Star* 22.06.2019 08:36 |
Seems that Brian has be swamped with complaints about his precious "little gift from god" hype named Adam Mitchel Lambert, he cannot bare to hear Queen fans slagging him off so he goes to the press and tells them all Adam is king of rock he is super he is even capable of been the next president Trump only fag style lol Brian is really transparent now we have heard all this shit from his mouth now for 8 years so smell the coffee guys it is a publicity stunt, Freddie was mega brilliant but Brian never ran to the press to tell them how brilliant he was did he! |
rockchic65 22.06.2019 10:37 |
Inspired wrote: Seems that Brian has be swamped with complaints about his precious "little gift from god" hype named Adam Mitchel Lambert, he cannot bare to hear Queen fans slagging him off so he goes to the press and tells them all Adam is king of rock he is super he is even capable of been the next president Trump only fag style lol Brian is really transparent now we have heard all this shit from his mouth now for 8 years so smell the coffee guys it is a publicity stunt, Freddie was mega brilliant but Brian never ran to the press to tell them how brilliant he was did he!He posted this yesterday about Freddie but I suppose that's not good enough for you. Many of you will have already seen this ad. This new version of Freddie’s take on the theme song from Dave Clarke’s 1986 musical of the same name is getting lots of attention. I see people asking why it wasn’t available until now, but of course it was. The original version is still up there on YouTube, with 3.4 million views ! A lot of people are asking us why this release was done in certain ways, but none of our team had anything to with this remake - so we can’t help you ! It’s not a Queen song, so it doesn’t come under our jurisdiction. It’s obviously not a Freddie-penned song either - he got involved as a favour to his close friend Dave Clarke. Being Freddie, he couldn’t (like me, I guess!) half-do it. He plunged in and did a huge production on a rather featureless song, determined to make it into a timeless epic ! Freddie’s production included a big ‘orchestration’, and loads of glorious vocal harmonies, and the original video had him interacting (visually only) with the cast of the musical. None of which you get in this new version, because Dave Clarke has, for this release, smartly lifted Freddie’s lead vocal and placed it alone with a new piano track - played by Mike Moran. So you don’t get Freddie’s production, but what you DO get is Freddie’s lead vocal almost naked, and clear as a bell. And WHAT a vocal - what a voice ! Freddie poured so much passion into it you get the impression he could make you weep singing the phone directory !!! I hope this does well, because Dave Clarke is a very nice man, and was a great friend to Freddie. One thing is for sure - the world has a fierce appetite for Freddie right now. How happy he would be. One more snippet. In the new video you see Freddie miming to the track on stage at the Dominion Theatre - where TIME was then playing in 1986 - the very same stage that WE WILL ROCK YOU the musical later was to rock, 8 shows a week packed out for 13 years. And the core story of that musical was Ben Elton’s magical narrative that Freddie was the key to kids in the future rediscovering Rock and Roll. Well, it seems to be coming true ! Long Live Freddie !! Bri |
Chief Mouse 22.06.2019 11:05 |
^ Very nice of Brian :) Thanks for sharing. |
Star* 22.06.2019 16:18 |
Seems like Brian has done a U turn from Adam can do this and Adam can do that and MORE to Freddie and "oh he put so much passion into "Time" what a hypocrite Brian really is. He seems to be trying to cover his past stupid ridiculous comments over now by trying to be nice to OUR Fred. |
dysan 22.06.2019 18:11 |
'because Dave Clarke is a very nice man, and was a great friend to Freddie' Worth it for this comment. A really nice thing to say because we just don't know. |
rockchic65 22.06.2019 18:24 |
Inspired wrote: Seems like Brian has done a U turn from Adam can do this and Adam can do that and MORE to Freddie and "oh he put so much passion into "Time" what a hypocrite Brian really is. He seems to be trying to cover his past stupid ridiculous comments over now by trying to be nice to OUR Fred.Do you never get tired of living in your cynical and mistrustful world? No matter what he say's he can't win, there's never any winning with people like you who think there's an ulterior motive for everything. I suppose there was some elaborate and sly reason for his trip to Zanzibar according to you as well. |
Star* 23.06.2019 07:44 |
Rockchic: Brian loves publicity and hype and anything to mention the AL word to get his tickets sold. If there is money to be made he will spout rubbish to the press and he has become a shrew business man from the timid young guy he was all those years ago, you need to wake up love. |
rockchic65 23.06.2019 12:18 |
Inspired wrote: Rockchic: Brian loves publicity and hype and anything to mention the AL word to get his tickets sold. If there is money to be made he will spout rubbish to the press and he has become a shrew business man from the timid young guy he was all those years ago, you need to wake up love.And if they needed hype to sell tickets you may have a point but their USA tour has been sold out pretty much for months, they obviously don't need any help in that direction so he has no reason to be hyping anything at the moment. |
Sebastian 23.06.2019 13:08 |
I don't mind Adam. He can sing, of course, even if he's not the sort of artist I'd normally listen to (and it's not at all because of his sexuality, I don't care about that). The point is, neither Roger nor Brian need my permission (or anyone else's, for that matter). People can diss Adam all they want, the fact is he's still more than good enough for the only two people who actually have a say in this. And yes, in terms of singing Queen stuff on-stage for a full-length tour, Adam can do anything Frederick could, and more. Whether or not he wrote or co-wrote those songs or plays instruments or produces or was there in the trenches is completely irrelevant - they're not hiring him to pen the next 'Bo Rhap', they're hiring him to front and sing, which he does, to a sufficiently high standard that they keep hiring him and promoting him and praising him. Should Adam ever read this forum, he's unlikely to resign. He's gonna wipe his tears with heaps of hundred-dollar, hundred-pound and hundred-euro notes he's rightfully getting for doing what he loves and doing it right enough that Brian and Roger seem to be satisfied and pleased with his work. While most (not all) of us have never met them and will never meet them, he gets to routinely perform with them, earn good money to do it, make them happy, make himself happy and make thousands of audience members happy. Even if I hated him (I don't), I'm aware I'm not in a position to judge. He does what he does, does it well, and he deserves to be as famous as he is. He also deserves to be fronting Maylor, as they chose him. Considering they could've head-hunted virtually anybody in the world and they picked him, and considering how good musicians they both are, I think that's as high a compliment as anyone could aspire to. And he's earned it. |
Star* 23.06.2019 16:07 |
You are obviously talking utter crap, have you heard Lambert's thin shrieking voice, he is no showman far from it, and Brian will not shut up hyping him and this has been going on for 8 years now, if Lambert was as good as Brian says he is then nothing would be said as Lambert's voice would sell the tickets alone and not rely on the hype and overkill and May & Taylor to back him up still. Most audiences mainly go to the shows to see Brian & Roger and ignore Adam, but i think fans have a right to let Maylor know that they are disgusted with them picking a cheesy American idol singer as there lead singer what a shock and a huge let down. They still remain a laughing stock and we know they have lost the plot even if they are laughing all the way to the bank with idiots who still go to see them. Queen arguably where a real band 1971 to 1991 end off. |
rockchic65 23.06.2019 17:34 |
Sebastian wrote: I don't mind Adam. He can sing, of course, even if he's not the sort of artist I'd normally listen to (and it's not at all because of his sexuality, I don't care about that). The point is, neither Roger nor Brian need my permission (or anyone else's, for that matter). People can diss Adam all they want, the fact is he's still more than good enough for the only two people who actually have a say in this. And yes, in terms of singing Queen stuff on-stage for a full-length tour, Adam can do anything Frederick could, and more. Whether or not he wrote or co-wrote those songs or plays instruments or produces or was there in the trenches is completely irrelevant - they're not hiring him to pen the next 'Bo Rhap', they're hiring him to front and sing, which he does, to a sufficiently high standard that they keep hiring him and promoting him and praising him. Should Adam ever read this forum, he's unlikely to resign. He's gonna wipe his tears with heaps of hundred-dollar, hundred-pound and hundred-euro notes he's rightfully getting for doing what he loves and doing it right enough that Brian and Roger seem to be satisfied and pleased with his work. While most (not all) of us has never met them and will never meet them, he gets to routinely perform with them, earn good money to do it, make them happy, make himself happy and make thousands of audience members happy. Even if I hated him (I don't), I'm aware I'm not in a position to judge. He does what he does, does it well, and he deserves to be as famous as he is. He also deserves to be fronting Maylor, as they chose him. Considering they could've head-hunted virtually anybody in the world and they picked him, and considering how good musicians they both are, I think that's as high a compliment as anyone could aspire to. And he's earned it.Well said, 100% agree. |
rockchic65 23.06.2019 17:38 |
Inspired wrote: You are obviously talking utter crap, have you heard Lambert's thin shrieking voice, he is no showman far from it, and Brian will not shut up hyping him and this has been going on for 8 years now, if Lambert was as good as Brian says he is then nothing would be said as Lambert's voice would sell the tickets alone and not rely on the hype and overkill and May & Taylor to back him up still. Most audiences mainly go to the shows to see Brian & Roger and ignore Adam, but i think fans have a right to let Maylor know that they are disgusted with them picking a cheesy American idol singer as there lead singer what a shock and a huge let down. They still remain a laughing stock and we know they have lost the plot even if they are laughing all the way to the bank with idiots who still go to see them. Queen arguably where a real band 1971 to 1991 end off.No idea where you're getting your biased info from but it's certainly not reality. You really are making a twit of yourself with every comment. |
Sebastian 23.06.2019 18:29 |
rockchic65 wrote: Well said, 100% agree.Thanks. I made a grammar mistake, but it's been corrected now. |
Metropolis 23.06.2019 19:19 |
I respect that Brian and Roger might want to continue their legacy with Adam Lambert, but come on. You have to admit Adam can't replace Freddie. I would still go to Queen concerts, but it's not the same. Queen is Freddie, Brian, Roger, and John. You can't have Queen without Freddie and John. It's just not right, and it's not possible. Brian Roger and Adam aren't Queen+Adam. It's just Brian Roger and Adam. |
Star* 23.06.2019 19:24 |
Idiots will support whatever crap Brian & Roger throw at them all. Yous lot on here are nuts supporting them. |
Sebastian 23.06.2019 21:26 |
Queen Freddie Forever wrote: You have to admit Adam can't replace Freddie.He can, he does, he's done it for years and he's unlikely to stop doing it anytime soon. It's not up to you and it's not up to me. It's up to Brian and Roger. Adam's certainly good enough for them, that's all he needs. He'll do it with or without our approval. Inspired wrote: Yous lot on here are nuts supporting them.I'm not supporting them, as I haven't been to a single concert with Adam (or with Frederick, for that matter). I'm aware, though, that with or without my support, they'll keep doing it, and I think that's great for them. As I mentioned earlier, they're happy, Adam's happy, their active organisation (techies, accountants, managers, bodyguards) are happy and the thousands of fans who willingly pay the tickets tend to have a lovely time, so that's a good decision by all parts involved. |
The Circle of Eidolon 24.06.2019 00:42 |
Inspired wrote: Seems like Brian has done a U turn from Adam can do this and Adam can do that and MORE to Freddie and "oh he put so much passion into "Time" what a hypocrite Brian really is. He seems to be trying to cover his past stupid ridiculous comments over now by trying to be nice to OUR Fred.The Circle of Eidolon has read this post and come to the conclusion that Inspired inspires no one, while himself being inspired by an endless river of negativity towards members of a band he claims to be a fan of. Think hard Mr Inspired you say Brian May is trying to cover his past by being nice to "our Fred". . . How little you remember from 1991 onward Brian has continued to remind everyone, in interviews on screen and written, what an amazing talent Freddie was. Your re writing of history is shallow and based on your own uninspired attempts to point fingers at people who have done the opposite of what you claim. Your talent for reaching uninspired depths is beyond reach. The Circle of Eidolon has spoken. You will fail to inspire with any reply. |
Star* 24.06.2019 12:10 |
The Circle Of Eidolon Yes back in 1991 Brian may have said the odd complementary thing about Freddie but that was before he clapped eyes on the dreadful Adam Lambert and since then Brian has crowed on for the past 8 years how great he is, he never done that when Paul Rodgers was fronting Queen did he! Brian protests too much in interviews about Adam so he must be surely hyping him and trying to sell him because of his lack of skills as a front man, |
rockchic65 24.06.2019 15:33 |
Inspired wrote: The Circle Of Eidolon Yes back in 1991 Brian may have said the odd complementary thing about Freddie but that was before he clapped eyes on the dreadful Adam Lambert and since then Brian has crowed on for the past 8 years how great he is, he never done that when Paul Rodgers was fronting Queen did he! Brian protests too much in interviews about Adam so he must be surely hyping him and trying to sell him because of his lack of skills as a front man,I bet you're one of those people who thinks someone should remain single for the rest of your life if a partner dies? Brian has said plenty of nice things about Freddie in interviews over the time they've been playing with Adam so you either don't bother watching his interviews or you choose to ignore that and focus only on what he say's about Adam. Has it ever occurred to you that he can love Adam and still love Freddie as well, they're different people and they have a different relationship with him but that doesn't mean he favours one over the other. Paul is a totally different type of person so it doesn't surprise me they didn't say the same types of things, the dynamic of the collaboration appeared different to me. |
Star* 24.06.2019 19:31 |
Paul Rodgers is still more worthy of praise than Adam as he has more experience and can deal with massive audiences better. Brian was making Adam out to be a showman the first day he walked out on stage which was ridiculous. Brian is self centred and at times and he does blow those trumpets for Adam too much these days it is getting very tedious now. Even the DJ on the radio said of Brian saying "Adam can do anything Freddie can do" "Excuse me we are talking about the late great Freddie Mercury here who is unbeatable to anyone out there"! |
rockchic65 24.06.2019 19:54 |
Inspired wrote: Paul Rodgers is still more worthy of praise than Adam as he has more experience and can deal with massive audiences better. Brian was making Adam out to be a showman the first day he walked out on stage which was ridiculous. Brian is self centred and at times and he does blow those trumpets for Adam too much these days it is getting very tedious now. Even the DJ on the radio said of Brian saying "Adam can do anything Freddie can do" "Excuse me we are talking about the late great Freddie Mercury here who is unbeatable to anyone out there"!That comment of Brian's has been taken out of context and anyone with sense would realize that. Adam is a showman, it's what he got known for from day one and he has no problem dealing with massive audiences. Paul is not in the least showman like and has a completely different style of performing, some will prefer his more straightforward rock style, some will prefer Adam's more theatrical approach and no doubt there's people who like both for different reasons. Brian praises lots of people, he's just been praising Steve Vai who he's at Starmus with, it's what a lot of musicians do, they praise others who they admire, can't see anything wrong with that. |
Metropolis 24.06.2019 23:19 |
I have no problems with Adam (or Paul) playing with Queen. What I do have problems with is people saying he can REPLACE Freddie Mercury. Freddie's music, style, and showmanship, as well as his ability to manipulate the audience make his one of, if not THE greatest performer of all time. Neither Paul or Adam can possibly replace Freddie. IMO, both Paul and Adam are okay performers, but to say they can replace Freddie is ridiculous. |
rockchic65 25.06.2019 04:49 |
Queen Freddie Forever wrote: I have no problems with Adam (or Paul) playing with Queen. What I do have problems with is people saying he can REPLACE Freddie Mercury. Freddie's music, style, and showmanship, as well as his ability to manipulate the audience make his one of, if not THE greatest performer of all time. Neither Paul or Adam can possibly replace Freddie. IMO, both Paul and Adam are okay performers, but to say they can replace Freddie is ridiculous.No one has said that though, Brian recently said he can't replace Freddie in an interview and Adam say's it in every interview and on stage every night. They made a point of calling it Queen + for that reason and in a couple of Adam's latest interviews he said "Queen to me is Freddie, John, Roger & Brian, these four legends, I don't consider myself Queen I'm just a featured guest, there to sing the songs for a live show and to enable Brian & Roger to continue to play live". I've never worked out why people think he's trying to replace Freddie or that they want him to since they've all said the complete opposite from the start. |
Star* 25.06.2019 06:43 |
We can all argue this fact but it simply is not Queen with two band members so calling the band Queen+ is false . Queen is or was made up of four men that was the whole equation and now watered down to two men and a wannabe rock singer who fails that department miserably. People are getting short changed paying massive amounts of money for tickets for what? |
rockchic65 25.06.2019 08:16 |
Inspired wrote: We can all argue this fact but it simply is not Queen with two band members so calling the band Queen+ is false . Queen is or was made up of four men that was the whole equation and now watered down to two men and a wannabe rock singer who fails that department miserably. People are getting short changed paying massive amounts of money for tickets for what?No one's being short changed if they enjoy the shows, there's nothing false about their advertising, they've been fully open about who the band is made up of and no one's going expecting to see original Queen so if they'r happy to pay to see two members of the band with Adam and some other musician's then that's their choice, no one's forced if they don't want to. Foreigner have only one original band member left but they still go by foreigner, they don't even add a + but people still go to see them play the music of foreigner because they love it and Kelly does justice to the songs. I saw them live and they were great. There's plenty bands like that with only one or two original members who are still out there and using their name without adding a +, at least Brian & Roger have made it very clear Adam isn't a replacement Freddie and the same when they toured with Paul. |
AlbaNo1 25.06.2019 12:53 |
Is there an example of another band with a long term line up who had to change key personnel who also use this “+” name convention? I’m sure someone will come up with one but it’s definitely not the common approach. It’s a compromise between forming a new band name and just keeping the old one entirely. |
Sebastian 25.06.2019 13:17 |
Inspired wrote: We can all argue this fact but it simply is not Queen with two band members so calling the band Queen+ is false .Legally, it's not false. It's not up to you and it's not up to me and it's not up to anyone but Roger and Brian, and they can call themselves whatever they want to without your permission (or without mine, or without anyone else's for that matter). Inspired wrote: Queen is or was made up of four men that was the whole equationSo? Inspired wrote: a wannabe rock singer who fails that department miserably.Considering he earns good money for singing rock music, he's not a 'wannabe'. Considering he's been hired by two people at the top of their league to sing their material and has spent years touring all over the place doing that before large paying audiences, he's definitely not 'failed', let alone 'miserably'. Whether you like his voice or not (that aspect is far more subjective), he's a success, and a large one - case in point, here we are talking about him. Inspired wrote: People are getting short changed paying massive amounts of money for tickets for what?Do you care this much for financial injustice? If so, do you campaign against detrimental political decisions, religious leaders selling tickets to heaven, governments cutting funding from schools and hospitals, app companies scamming the elderly, faith healers, etc? Or do you only care about 'big' problems such as two rock stars in their seventies (Roger's ever so nearly there) having picked a young singer you don't care for and touring with him? |
Star* 25.06.2019 16:21 |
I do not care what is going on around he globe but what i do care about is my favourite band getting trashed by some novice pub crooner who thinks he is gods gift and getting hyped by two desperate old men who once had the greatest front man in rock. |
Sealion 25.06.2019 22:07 |
Inspired wrote: I do not care what is going on around he globe but what i do care about is my favourite band getting trashed by some novice pub crooner who thinks he is gods gift and getting hyped by two desperate old men who once had the greatest front man in rock.For heaven‘s sake, the only one trashing your favourite band is you. You are constantly trashing what is left of them and what is one of the biggest, most successful and admired touring bands in the world. Your opinion might be valid, but you are throwing a bad light on Queen fans by throwing one tantrum after another like a thick headed toddler, whose favourite pacifier got lost. Get a grip, man. Brian and Roger will keep on touring with Adam. You will never change anything about that. And for every fan, who isn’t interested in that collaboration are enough others, who are happy to even get a ticket. There are more young fans than ever, it’s a great time to be a Queen fan. Who would have thought that 20 years ago? |
MisterCosmicc 25.06.2019 23:54 |
Terrible |
Metropolis 26.06.2019 00:56 |
BHM: I know people would love to see us together and stuff, but it would have to be in the right way, not in some way which would spoil what went before. RMT: Elton put it very well, he said, “You lot are like a fantastic racing car, sitting in the garage with no bloody driver”, which was a great analogy I thought, and very flattering; but you know, we’ll see. Excerpt from an interview in 1997. |
queenfan09 26.06.2019 03:51 |
@MisterCosmicc - That's what I get for clicking on a link with no description...so wrong - LOL |
MisterCosmicc 26.06.2019 05:56 |
queenfan09 wrote: @MisterCosmicc - That's what I get for clicking on a link with no description...so wrong - LOLServes you right to suffer... LOL |
Holly2003 26.06.2019 07:59 |
Inspired = Gerry = Ted = Fatty? Do I win a prize? |
Star* 26.06.2019 11:01 |
That racing car ended up with a skoda engine and was never the same again lol |
The Real Wizard 26.06.2019 23:45 |
Sebastian wrote: I don't mind Adam. He can sing, of course, even if he's not the sort of artist I'd normally listen to (and it's not at all because of his sexuality, I don't care about that). The point is, neither Roger nor Brian need my permission (or anyone else's, for that matter). People can diss Adam all they want, the fact is he's still more than good enough for the only two people who actually have a say in this. And yes, in terms of singing Queen stuff on-stage for a full-length tour, Adam can do anything Frederick could, and more. Whether or not he wrote or co-wrote those songs or plays instruments or produces or was there in the trenches is completely irrelevant - they're not hiring him to pen the next 'Bo Rhap', they're hiring him to front and sing, which he does, to a sufficiently high standard that they keep hiring him and promoting him and praising him. Should Adam ever read this forum, he's unlikely to resign. He's gonna wipe his tears with heaps of hundred-dollar, hundred-pound and hundred-euro notes he's rightfully getting for doing what he loves and doing it right enough that Brian and Roger seem to be satisfied and pleased with his work. While most (not all) of us have never met them and will never meet them, he gets to routinely perform with them, earn good money to do it, make them happy, make himself happy and make thousands of audience members happy. Even if I hated him (I don't), I'm aware I'm not in a position to judge. He does what he does, does it well, and he deserves to be as famous as he is. He also deserves to be fronting Maylor, as they chose him. Considering they could've head-hunted virtually anybody in the world and they picked him, and considering how good musicians they both are, I think that's as high a compliment as anyone could aspire to. And he's earned it. Inspired wrote: You are obviously talking utter crap, have you heard Lambert's thin shrieking voice, he is no showman far from it, and Brian will not shut up hyping him and this has been going on for 8 years now, if Lambert was as good as Brian says he is then nothing would be said as Lambert's voice would sell the tickets alone and not rely on the hype and overkill and May & Taylor to back him up still. Most audiences mainly go to the shows to see Brian & Roger and ignore Adam, but i think fans have a right to let Maylor know that they are disgusted with them picking a cheesy American idol singer as there lead singer what a shock and a huge let down. They still remain a laughing stock and we know they have lost the plot even if they are laughing all the way to the bank with idiots who still go to see them. Queen arguably where a real band 1971 to 1991 end off.If anyone needs a crash course in observing a 50 point difference in IQ, here it is. |
The Real Wizard 26.06.2019 23:50 |
Inspired wrote: Most audiences mainly go to the shows to see Brian & Roger and ignore AdamEngaging with you is a pointless task, but I'll still clarify: You underestimate Lambert's fanbase, particularly in the US. And plenty of Queen fans have walked away saying they liked Lambert. And you need to deal with it and get on with your life. |
The Circle of Eidolon 27.06.2019 00:01 |
Inspired wrote: That racing car ended up with a skoda engine and was never the same again lolWe The Circle of Eidolon have read your attempt at wit and in it have witnessed you abundantly limited knowledge. Skoda are part of the VW Audi group. The engines they produce power all three makes. Some quite fast models. Your comment is out dated because you are unaware of most things that don't involve Freddie Mercury. Again a lesson could be learnt here but, as with many times before, we feel that any learning is beyond where you choose to place your mind. . . The Circle of Eidolon has spoken. |
The Circle of Eidolon 27.06.2019 00:11 |
The Real Wizard wrote:In these three quoted posts two people make 100 percent sense.Sebastian wrote: I don't mind Adam. He can sing, of course, even if he's not the sort of artist I'd normally listen to (and it's not at all because of his sexuality, I don't care about that). The point is, neither Roger nor Brian need my permission (or anyone else's, for that matter). People can diss Adam all they want, the fact is he's still more than good enough for the only two people who actually have a say in this. And yes, in terms of singing Queen stuff on-stage for a full-length tour, Adam can do anything Frederick could, and more. Whether or not he wrote or co-wrote those songs or plays instruments or produces or was there in the trenches is completely irrelevant - they're not hiring him to pen the next 'Bo Rhap', they're hiring him to front and sing, which he does, to a sufficiently high standard that they keep hiring him and promoting him and praising him. Should Adam ever read this forum, he's unlikely to resign. He's gonna wipe his tears with heaps of hundred-dollar, hundred-pound and hundred-euro notes he's rightfully getting for doing what he loves and doing it right enough that Brian and Roger seem to be satisfied and pleased with his work. While most (not all) of us have never met them and will never meet them, he gets to routinely perform with them, earn good money to do it, make them happy, make himself happy and make thousands of audience members happy. Even if I hated him (I don't), I'm aware I'm not in a position to judge. He does what he does, does it well, and he deserves to be as famous as he is. He also deserves to be fronting Maylor, as they chose him. Considering they could've head-hunted virtually anybody in the world and they picked him, and considering how good musicians they both are, I think that's as high a compliment as anyone could aspire to. And he's earned it.Inspired wrote: You are obviously talking utter crap, have you heard Lambert's thin shrieking voice, he is no showman far from it, and Brian will not shut up hyping him and this has been going on for 8 years now, if Lambert was as good as Brian says he is then nothing would be said as Lambert's voice would sell the tickets alone and not rely on the hype and overkill and May & Taylor to back him up still. Most audiences mainly go to the shows to see Brian & Roger and ignore Adam, but i think fans have a right to let Maylor know that they are disgusted with them picking a cheesy American idol singer as there lead singer what a shock and a huge let down. They still remain a laughing stock and we know they have lost the plot even if they are laughing all the way to the bank with idiots who still go to see them. Queen arguably where a real band 1971 to 1991 end off.If anyone needs a crash course in observing a 50 point difference in IQ, here it is. It almost doesn't need to be said that Inspired you as usual have made no sense in your blind mindless ranting which you seem to have the need to repeat endlessly. Inspired you have failed yet again. . . The Circle of Eidolon has spoken and yet again you walk down your lonely path unable to see what so many others do. |
The Circle of Eidolon 27.06.2019 00:12 |
The Circle of Eidolon wrote:Inspired wrote: That racing car ended up with a skoda engine and was never the same again lolWe The Circle of Eidolon have read your attempt at wit and in it have witnessed you abundantly limited knowledge. Skoda are part of the VW Audi group. The engines they produce power all three makes. Some quite fast models. Your comment is out dated because you are unaware of most things that don't involve Freddie Mercury. Again a lesson could be learnt here but, as with many times before, we feel that any learning is beyond where you choose to place your mind. . . The Circle of Eidolon has spoken. |
Star* 27.06.2019 19:31 |
The circle of Eidolon: You need to be less confrontational and let people have there own opinions on here because as usual you are talking out of your arse. The Real Wizard@ Do not waste your time reading my essential posts because you will get a nose bleed and need to sit down with a book on Adam Lambert showing his pussy and that may get you rather excited. He he he he |
dysan 28.06.2019 07:16 |
Um this whole thread is you confronting people because they have a different opinion to you. Just accept that we all get different feelings out of Queen and if they bring us happiness all points are valid. I'd say most people on these threads don't even really have a horse in the AL v FM race, they just accept that Queen 2019 is a very different beast to the one we fell in love with years ago especially considering the course of events that befell the band. It's almost like you derive your happiness from pushing people away which is most upsetting and making this place a one topic battlefield is most un-Queenified. |
Togg 28.06.2019 12:08 |
Jeez, looks like it's day release at the hospital for special needs again... Someone take his computer away please, what a load of pointless drivell |
Star* 28.06.2019 12:12 |
Dysan : I am not pushing people away and you know everything on this site is an opinion, so chill out and stop getting worked up. It is ok though for Brian to put Lambert on a pedestal one minute then be two faced and make £28 million for himself out of Freddie's legacy, nice little salary that one You see Brian can switch when he chooses to and makes money out of ridiculous comments. Even the DJ on the radio said how ridiculous Brian's comment was saying Adam was greater than Freddie, what is this man on??? Great guitarist but very two faced and spins lies like there is no tomorrow. |
dysan 28.06.2019 12:42 |
I'm not worked up at all bro. |
Vocal harmony 28.06.2019 13:16 |
Inspired wrote: Dysan : I am not pushing people away and you know everything on this site is an opinion, so chill out and stop getting worked up. It is ok though for Brian to put Lambert on a pedestal one minute then be two faced and make £28 million for himself out of Freddie's legacy, nice little salary that one You see Brian can switch when he chooses to and makes money out of ridiculous comments. Even the DJ on the radio said how ridiculous Brian's comment was saying Adam was greater than Freddie, what is this man on??? Great guitarist but very two faced and spins lies like there is no tomorrow.You seem to be the one who is getting wound up at people who don't share your views Brian through the years has had loads of nice things to say about Freddie and continues too. Lambert is the current singer so Brian is always going to say good things about him too. . . No one in a current touring band is going to say say come and see us live our singer is shit! |
Dougie 4 28.06.2019 15:21 |
Brian May knows which side his bread is buttered, and he licks that side well |
Star* 28.06.2019 16:16 |
Brian protests too much about Adam Lambert which suggests he knows without Queen he would be on his arse and fast lol |
dysan 28.06.2019 17:46 |
BRAIN SHULD STICK TO PLAYIN DRUMS AND SHUT HIS MOTH |
Holly2003 28.06.2019 18:49 |
dysan wrote: BRAIN SHULD STICK TO PLAYIN DRUMS AND SHUT HIS MOTHI heard he built his drum set out of an old fireplace. |
dysan 28.06.2019 20:05 |
Well he was an electronics student. |
The Circle of Eidolon 29.06.2019 02:59 |
Inspired wrote: The circle of Eidolon: You need to be less confrontational and let people have there own opinions on here because as usual you are talking out of your arse. The Real Wizard@ Do not waste your time reading my essential posts because you will get a nose bleed and need to sit down with a book on Adam Lambert showing his pussy and that may get you rather excited. He he he heThe Circle of Eidolon has read this post with interest. We have concluded that Inspired, you are incapable of understanding and putting into practice what you ask others to do. Confrontation seems to be something that most of your posts have in common. You ask people not to do what you go on to do. You have much to learn, yet no ability to do so. You are the one person who could learn most from what you say. We The Circle of Eidolon have yet again spoken. . . We however know that you Inspired will learn nothing from this |
Metropolis 29.06.2019 03:27 |
Is anyone else just reading this thread like -_- This is actually getting ridiculous Everyone has their own opinion Can people just stop yelling at other people just because they don't agree? Thanks |
Star* 29.06.2019 18:18 |
The Circle of Eidolon Now which idiot is behind that name on here? I think its vocal harmony, anyway she is very opinionated and should not judge anyone on here but she does which makes her a true hypocrite . I take no notice what so ever of this individual, i read the posts then dismiss them completely. jog on dear because your not superior your just demented. |
The Circle of Eidolon 30.06.2019 00:24 |
Inspired, you take no notice yet you use valuable time to post For someone who takes no notice you seem to spend time doing the opposite. The Circle of Eidolon has noted all you have said |
Star* 30.06.2019 07:56 |
I do not care what you think darling take your circle of eidolon and stick it up your arse love. |
Vocal harmony 30.06.2019 11:00 |
Inspired wrote: The Circle of Eidolon Now which idiot is behind that name on here? I think its vocal harmony, anyway she is very opinionated and should not judge anyone on here but she does which makes her a true hypocrite . I take no notice what so ever of this individual, i read the posts then dismiss them completely. jog on dear because your not superior your just demented.Well you've told me I'm Thistle, The Real Wizard a number of others and now I'm the circle of Eidolon. . Funny how you've decided that you keep picking people who disagree with you and make total sense. Also I see your gender reconstruction problem is still there and of course your default mode of when wrong insult. Carry one though it's quite amusing |
Star* 30.06.2019 12:28 |
Vocal Harmony You just don't get it do you? This is a site were everyone has an opinion i do not have to agree with everyone to be pally pally or with you or anyone else and we certainly are not friends so do one. |