dysan 11.06.2019 07:42 |
18 minidiscs (20-ish hours) of rehearsals, home demos, studio out takes from Radiohead's making of OK Computer have leaked online. I wish I liked Radiohead more (always bought the early records, never really dug deep) but this leak is fascinating. Basically these discs where compiled as an archive of the material back in the day, and ripped to MP3 so they could sort through the stuff ahead of the 20th anniversary re-issue last year (or was it the year before?) and compile a bonus disc. Obviously from the 18 discs only about an hour was used, leaving roughly 18-19 hours of new out takes for the fans to hear. I can imagine the band are livid. Apparently it was an intern at the label who nicked the rips and tried to sell them. But imagine this for a Queen album. We've had similar with working versions from Hot Space, Miracle and Innuendo being leaked, but not in this volume. DROOLS |
bucsateflon 11.06.2019 09:52 |
failed band, what a disgrace... |
Makka 11.06.2019 10:30 |
I was thinking similar thoughts here Dysan. I am a huge Radiohead fan and have been since they first appeared. I have heard the rips and to me it is fascinating as it shows how much songs were developed from demos to finished products as well as so many unreleased songs. It is an absolute treasure trove. It is interesting to fans. And the first thing I thought of was I wonder if there is Queen material sitting around in a similar digital format that one day could see the light of day (would never officially be released obviously). As for Radiohead, I don't think they've commented on the leak yet. But I guess it also gets me thinking that with the insane interest of these leaks and how excited people were to hear them I wonder if artists/record companies may actually think to dig a bit deeper in releasing these types of rarities when they do special edition/anniversary edition releases. Give the real fans what they want. |
aristide1 11.06.2019 11:58 |
This leakage could never happened to Queen, we all know that all departments, technical, legal, marketing, HR, even the cleaning woman, are devoted to Brian. In fact they are a big happy family dedicated to one cause (or should I say one's cause?) of literally preserving the legacy by making it inaccessible. Someone from Japan should send him the recent "Geisha Boys" 9 CDs bootleg box, maybe he will have an epiphany. At least he will see how a Queen live box looks. |
dysan 11.06.2019 12:25 |
There's a thread about it on Hoffman and people are complaining about the quality (bitrate AND / OR production). Clueless idiots. Would be interested to hear what the security is like around the archive. The very first Beatles bootlegs stem from insiders running off their own copied of out takes. |
Makka 11.06.2019 12:34 |
dysan wrote: There's a thread about it on Hoffman and people are complaining about the quality (bitrate AND / OR production). Clueless idiots.Wow really?? Fuck some people are morons! None of the audio is mastered at all as far as I'm aware and there's a lot of acoustic stuff just recorded on 4 track. What sort of quality do they expect? |
dysan 11.06.2019 12:39 |
You know there would be some people here saying it about a similar Queen leak 'ONLY 20 hours? Where's the rest???!!' :D |
The Fairy King 11.06.2019 13:10 |
bucsateflon wrote: failed band, what a disgrace...Lol what? XD Can someone link me? |
dysan 11.06.2019 13:40 |
Usual torrent outlets :) |
Plengel 11.06.2019 14:21 |
Nice response to the leak from Radiohead themselves: link |
aristide1 11.06.2019 14:56 |
"Reportedly" demanded $150,000 on threat of releasing it? Wow, that's a strong statement from Jonny Greenwood. £18 for 18 hours just for the next 18 days sounds like a pagan offer(ing). Be careful with it. |
dysan 11.06.2019 14:56 |
Yeah good on them. I wonder if the BC download is WAV or sourced from the MP3s? Can't help thinking though that these will be a popular bootleg for years though. Perhaps they should just keep it up. |
aristide1 11.06.2019 16:05 |
Downloadable "official bootlegs" are by nature quality limited, for Queen the limit was 192 Kbps MP3 years ago. But there was no technical reason behind, just the same sheer pettiness who characterizes all of their releases. |
dysan 11.06.2019 16:38 |
I figured this one might be upgraded to usurp the unofficial leak |
Jimmy Dean 11.06.2019 20:03 |
this has been around for a couple of weeks i think - i can't wait to hear but didn't have time to search for the leak. apparantly, bandcamp offers the full range - AIFF, WAV, FLAC, ALAC, MP3 (max 44-16)... superdeluxeedition.com talks about this. |
dysan 11.06.2019 20:19 |
Yeah last week it came out. I know about Bandcamp - but it's easy to upload WAVs sourced from the 192kbps files. |
dysan 11.06.2019 20:20 |
The SDE followers will complain about it not being on CD with bonus material :) |
The Real Wizard 11.06.2019 21:20 |
bucsateflon wrote: failed band, what a disgrace...They are the most important band of the past 25 years. Methinks you've failed, and you're a disgrace. Keep on trolling. Good on Radiohead for stripping the hackers of their power. They've always been ahead of the curve. 20 hours of outtakes makes me wish I was more into them. But nobody can really deny the greatness of OK Computer - the Sgt Pepper of the 90s. |
blueroom 11.06.2019 21:34 |
I think the official release is higher quality than the leak, but MiniDiscs audio is lossy anyway so it's not CD quality. |
Jimmy Dean 11.06.2019 23:29 |
right but we don't know what source was used.... the minidiscs themselves or the masters that were used to create the minidiscs... if the masters to create the minidiscs are readily available... seems less costly to just use those than to transfer, decode, reencode, etc |
bucsateflon 12.06.2019 06:47 |
The Real Wizard wrote: They are the most important band of the past 25 years.GTFOH I thought I sent you to rehab? now I see you came back...it's not good for your demented condition go away... |
Makka 12.06.2019 06:51 |
bucsateflon wrote:I agree with him. Definitely released some challenging and mind blowing music over the years.The Real Wizard wrote: They are the most important band of the past 25 years.GTFOH I thought I sent you to rehab? now I see you came back...it's not good for your demented condition go away... |
dysan 12.06.2019 06:55 |
I should imagine most of the masters are lost if these were archived back in the late 90s (being MD I imagine they were). At the very least a total ball ache to compile again against the clock. An HQ rip from those original MDs would be fine unless you're a cat or only judge quality by looking at waveforms / post on the Hoffman forum :) The idea of keeping them in the original as-ripped chunks suggests it's what we have already. Like Real Wizard I really wish I was more into them (that said, if this came out in '96 '97 I'd be all over them). I feel a bit 'emperor's new clothes' with Radiohead. Posh boys who got lucky in time and career? Although to be honest there's not many artist I'd patiently listen to this kind of leak all the way through and be able to spot snippets of obscure songs and know what they were / what they became. Queen / Bowie / Suede / Sparks / Velvets. A shame they are giving the money to Extinction Rebellion. Although I guess most of their fans are now firmly entrenched in the lefty-but-do-nothing camp so will cheer the decision. Either way, it's a fantastic story, especially the whole way it's come about. Nuts. And makes me proud to also have an archive of about 40 minidisc of my demos and out takes. I doubt I'll be blackmailed for them though :D |
dysan 12.06.2019 06:56 |
Sorry about the BRAINDUMP post |
bucsateflon 12.06.2019 06:57 |
That doesn't make them the most important band of the past 25 years, not even near... Also what I said is true about them, they have failed and disgraced themselves by not taking care of their own shit. |
Nathan H 12.06.2019 07:09 |
Can I be really honest, I only know one Radiohead song and I don't like it (Creep). I know you shouldn't rate a band on just one song but I don't think I'll like their music. I always thought the best album of the 90s (which I love and both of my parents love) is Oasis' (What's The Story) Morning Glory. I mean it sold 5.1 million copies for a reason. |
dysan 12.06.2019 07:45 |
It sold 5.1 million largely for reasons other than the music. We think we've got it bad now - we truly lost our minds in the 90s. And loved every second of it. |
bucsateflon 12.06.2019 08:01 |
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bucsateflon 12.06.2019 08:04 |
MusicFan15 wrote: Can I be really honest, I only know one Radiohead song and I don't like it (Creep). I know you shouldn't rate a band on just one song but I don't think I'll like their music. I always thought the best album of the 90s (which I love and both of my parents love) is Oasis' (What's The Story) Morning Glory. I mean it sold 5.1 million copies for a reason.for sure Creep and Karma Police are their only big hits After that the band started getting hyped by hipsters. |
Makka 12.06.2019 08:16 |
MusicFan15 wrote: Can I be really honest, I only know one Radiohead song and I don't like it (Creep). I know you shouldn't rate a band on just one song but I don't think I'll like their music. I always thought the best album of the 90s (which I love and both of my parents love) is Oasis' (What's The Story) Morning Glory. I mean it sold 5.1 million copies for a reason.Ha. If you listened to Creep and some of their later stuff you wouldn't even think it was the same band. :) |
Penetration_Guru 12.06.2019 08:26 |
This is technically what Queen tried to do with the Top 100 Bootlegs. They just cocked up the execution. |
Rick 12.06.2019 09:32 |
Muse > Radiohead |
dysan 12.06.2019 09:52 |
wtf |
dysan 12.06.2019 11:09 |
It's interesting to read comments elsewhere. The predicted 'it shows what a rip off the bonus stuff on last years OK Computer reissue was' and how 'there is all this stuff unreleased' so obviously the band should release. SOME PEOPLE. |
The Real Wizard 12.06.2019 15:38 |
bucsateflon wrote: for sure Creep and Karma Police are their only big hits After that the band started getting hyped by hipsters.Measuring an artist's quality and appeal only by their singles and characterizing their entire fanbase as "hipsters" says nothing about Radiohead and their fanbase and everything about how small minded you are. Whether or not you like it, OK Computer and Kid A are two of the most important albums ever created. |
The Real Wizard 12.06.2019 15:40 |
Rick wrote: Muse > RadioheadI like Muse more than Radiohead myself. Black Holes And Revelations is my favourite album of the last 20 years. But we can't deny the influence Radiohead has had on popular music - it is massive. OK Computer is a Mason-Dixon line which everything after it was measured, rendering pretty much everything else to be irrelevant. It changed everything. Thom Yorke developed an allergic reaction to the pop hook 20 years ago, yet they remain the most critically acclaimed artists of our generation. Nobody else is operating at that level. Maybe Kendrick Lamar. |
Rick 12.06.2019 16:11 |
The Real Wizard wrote:I don't 'get' their music. That is my biggest problem. Mark Hollis did some similar music after their commercial period. The late 80s/early 90s period of Talk Talk is seen as their best, but here I have the same issue: I can't get into this kind of music, because it is too complicated almost.Rick wrote: Muse > RadioheadI like Muse more than Radiohead myself. Black Holes And Revelations is my favourite album of the last 20 years. But we can't deny the influence Radiohead has had on popular music - it is massive. OK Computer is a Mason-Dixon line which everything after it was measured, rendering pretty much everything else to be irrelevant. It changed everything. Thom Yorke developed an allergic reaction to the pop hook 20 years ago, yet they remain the most critically acclaimed artists of our generation. Nobody else is operating at that level. Maybe Kendrick Lamar. Muse has done some odd stuff as well of course, like Forced In, Micro Cuts, Recess etc. But here I don't have the problem, because it is still easy listening somehow (clear structures, melodies etc.) Plus, I like Matt's voice way more than Thom's. Burn the Witch is a stellar track btw, I have to be honest about that. |
Makka 12.06.2019 16:18 |
Rick wrote: I don't 'get' their music.This is how I've always explained Radiohead to people. You either get their music or you don't. I've followed them since they first appeared so have watched their transition over time. Very inventive. Like any band not everything works but most does. |
. 12.06.2019 16:25 |
I have all the Radiohead albums and most of Muse's. I've never seen Radiohead live, only on the Telly. Been to see Muse Twice, at Earls Court (vip area) and at Wembley Stadium (I was almost in the pit). I prefer Muse myself, they are way less serious, yet very competent musicians, and what a show they put on. It might be they remind me of Queen, no bad thing. |
. 12.06.2019 16:25 |
Double post. |
. 12.06.2019 16:26 |
Triple post. |
. 12.06.2019 16:28 |
Quadruple post. |
. 12.06.2019 16:29 |
Kin L. |
dysan 12.06.2019 16:44 |
Kurgan doing his own multiple posting leakage :D |
dysan 12.06.2019 16:45 |
Also, the greatest punchline to all this is the fact Radiohead have officially released it as 'Minidisc (Hacked)' which is probably the most Radiohead title I've ever heard in my life. |
. 12.06.2019 16:46 |
No joke, this site is impossible to navigate whilst using a smartphone and crack pipe. |
bucsateflon 12.06.2019 17:04 |
The Real Wizard wrote: Measuring an artist's quality and appeal only by their singles and characterizing their entire fanbase as "hipsters" says nothing about Radiohead and their fanbase and everything about how small minded you are.don't worry you are not a hipster.. you are just demented |
Kevin Spacey 12.06.2019 21:41 |
WTF is your problem bucsateflon? You post that Radiohead is shite or something to that effect and either everyone agrees with you or they are demented. Arguing opinions is useless so if you have nothing else to contribute to this thread get lost in space. |
Wilki Amieva 12.06.2019 23:22 |
The 'masters' are mp3 files @ 128 kbps, each a bulk rip of one of the 18 MDs. This is a shame as it means a lossy source (MD) was re-encoded in a lossy format (mp3), further degrading the audio. Also, there are no track splits and no documentation other than scans of the actual discs. A fantastic listen, anyway! |
The Real Wizard 13.06.2019 03:09 |
Kevin Spacey wrote: WTF is your problem bucsateflon? You post that Radiohead is shite or something to that effect and either everyone agrees with you or they are demented. Arguing opinions is useless so if you have nothing else to contribute to this thread get lost in space.We should probably stop trying to reason with internet trolls in their mothers' basements. |
Jimmy Dean 13.06.2019 03:40 |
MusicFan15 wrote: I always thought the best album of the 90s (which I love and both of my parents love) is Oasis' (What's The Story) Morning Glory. I mean it sold 5.1 million copies for a reason.Blur was always better... it just took history to prove it (each successive album was better than its predecessor, in my opinion). And while Definitely Maybe was a better album than Morning Glory. The latter was a definitely a worthy follow-up. Oasis, unfortunately, were too closely linked with the Beatles. They finally freshened their sound up when it was already too late... Don't Believe The Truth was where they finally got it right since Morning Glory. However, Oasis vs. album sales... look at the sales figures on Be Here Now.... and then listen to Be Here Now... and listen to how badly Noel hated it. That album helps to prove that sales figures are not representative of how good an album really is. Finally, Oasis target audience are the masses whereas Radiohead never intended to please their fanbase or widen it for that matter. They deliberately tried to sound less commercial as time progressed. Instead, they chose to organically progress their sound and compositions. The reward comes upon repeat listens. Kid A and In Rainbows are shining examples. OK Computer was their Revolver (in my opinion, again) as it appealed to the masses with their hits (Karma Police, Paranoid Android, No Surprises, Let Down) while progressively moving forward (Climbing Up The Walls, Exit Music, The Tourist). If you had to pick 5 albums that defined the 90s - this is one of them. (Nevermind, Achtung Baby are two other obvious ones)... arguably Morning Glory could make that list (even though Definitely Maybe is the better album) along with Automatic for the People. |
dysan 13.06.2019 06:24 |
Wilki Amieva wrote: The 'masters' are mp3 files @ 128 kbps, each a bulk rip of one of the 18 MDs. This is a shame as it means a lossy source (MD) was re-encoded in a lossy format (mp3), further degrading the audio. Also, there are no track splits and no documentation other than scans of the actual discs. A fantastic listen, anyway!I thought they were 192kbps? Quite a difference in real terms :) I like that it's been done like this - just a dump of stuff for people to pour over for a few weeks. The source and quality is part of this. This was all positively hifi in 1997. You just know it will be bootlegged in a more convenient form soon |
dysan 13.06.2019 06:30 |
A note about hipsters. I think it's this album that is responsible for the hipster. At the time it was all the 18 year old indie Kevins and Emilys buying it and noting how clever it all was. Around the same time they gave into their long held puzzlement of Stereolab and became chin strokers. Kevin indie grew a beard and you can now see him aged 40 discussing real ale and incredible obscure jazz records that listening to OK Computer made him see a connection between the Pulp and Shed Seven records of his youth and the dark underground of his weird uncle John's record collection. Emily Indie now has 4 children and is married to an accountant in Oxfordshire. She doesn't listen to much these days beyond radio 2 ('it's just better!') and occasionally goes to see Spice Girls and Ariana Grande shows with her pals in the frumpy mums network. She sometimes finds her old OK Computer tape and remembers the days of staring at her Thom Yorke poster. For it was that that made her realise she is ok to lower her own bar of what she finds attractive in a man. Hence her husband, Richard Accountant who has no interest in music, but went to raves with his mates in the 90s and still talks about it like he's an expert on everything. |
bucsateflon 13.06.2019 07:18 |
Kevin Spacey wrote: WTF is your problem bucsateflon?You just became my problem you child molester |
dysan 13.06.2019 07:39 |
@Jimmy interesting 90s selection there. I think for me it would be too objective to make a selection so agree with yours. Definitely Nevermind, of the REM albums - I think you're right, but maybe Out Of Time because it was the one that really made them. I guess begrudgingly Oasis would be in there but would argue DM captured those heady days when Britpop went over the top. Radiohead - yeah, a given. Blur? Maybe not. Pulp? Maybe not. Suede? The debut was a huge seller and certainly opened the floodgates for what came after it. These lists always have an weird one, so I'll say Stars by Simply Red just to get the letters page buzzing :D |
bucsateflon 13.06.2019 07:56 |
dysan wrote: A note about hipsters. I think it's this album that is responsible for the hipster. At the time it was all the 18 year old indie Kevins and Emilys... Hence her husband, Richard Accountant who has no interest in music, but went to raves with his mates in the 90s and still talks about it like he's an expert on everything.Nice way to not be sexist but in reality Kevins and Emilys were hooked up, so Emilys the hipster were hipsters because Kevins were hipsters. Emilys listened to Radiohead because Kevins and their entourage listened to them. The fact is the Emilys were not really into Radiohead but secretly more into Macarena and Madonna. |
dysan 13.06.2019 08:05 |
Agreed - which is why she let it all go, but Kevin continued his pursuit and expertise of other peoples art while dabbling in his own behind closed doors. Kevin fancied Emily, but apart from a few brief drunken snogs they never dated as such. She ran more with the 'cool' chavy kids who were more football and cricket. He lost his virginity at uni a few years later and never got over the fact Emily was seeing an older guy all through 6th form who worked in as an office cleaner. He treated her quite badly and Kevin prayed for the day they split up. Which was too late for him because they had drifted apart by then. |
dysan 13.06.2019 08:11 |
I'm writing all this in John Cale's voice on The Gift. |
aristide1 13.06.2019 12:41 |
Art rock, alternative rock and experimental rock genres (with a touch of electronica and space rock) usually describe alienated music for alienated audience. It's a surprise to me that people with allegedly high musical tastes talk about Radiohead and Muse. Maybe your children used to listen this music and you empathize with them, or you are an amateur musician who feels that your playing is as good if not better than theirs, etc. Because I can't imagine you actually like this kind of anti-music. |
dysan 13.06.2019 12:49 |
If this is anti-music, you'll shit when you hear Sunn 0))) |
Holly2003 13.06.2019 12:55 |
I was still listening to Iron Maiden in the 1990s, although with diminishing returns. I recall RATM, Pearl Jam and Faith No More were "new" and big. Achtung Baby had made U2 cool (rather than just annoying), so when Zooropa came out, students at my uni held an outdoor listening party in the quad. Good times. But rock was dying too. Grunge stuck the boot in and rap almost delivered the coup de grace. Almost. |
dysan 13.06.2019 13:07 |
Music returns to its primal states when it has no direction. The Balladier and the Metaler |
aristide1 13.06.2019 13:13 |
I don't want to spoil your school memories Dysan, in fact I was referring to Wizard and Kurgan (one of those rare occasion when they are associated). It must be this beautiful music who brought them together. |
dysan 13.06.2019 13:15 |
I was adding to the hypothesis. We've all gone Radiohead Ga Ga Or we're rushing Radioheadlong into it |
Holly2003 13.06.2019 13:28 |
link |
Holly2003 13.06.2019 13:34 |
These guys were also cool for a while -- probably the most accessible hip hop band for white Irish guys like me :) link Other popular student bands like The Orb left me confused, alone, and frightened for the future. Those feelings have never really gone away, although can be alleviated by listening to the Rolling Stones and other dinosaur rock. |
dysan 13.06.2019 13:53 |
I was similarly stranded on my own little island while schoolmates lapped up all sorts of awful 90s stuff. I can listen to most of it with a sense of wonderful nostalgia now, but back then, I was really concerned. No wonder Britpop happened. A whole generation breathed a big sign of relief at the stay of execution. |
. 13.06.2019 14:01 |
aristide1 wrote: Art rock, alternative rock and experimental rock genres (with a touch of electronica and space rock) usually describe alienated music for alienated audience. It's a surprise to me that people with allegedly high musical tastes talk about Radiohead and Muse. Maybe your children used to listen this music and you empathize with them...I actually introduced my Daughter to Muse and took her to her first Muse concert in 2007. I had been following them since their early days, when my daughter was listening to the Spice Girls. I still like Muse, I think they are a great band. My Daughter later moved on to Radiohead, and I think I can safely say they are still probably one of her favourite bands to date. She also moved on from physical releases, and I inherited almost every Radiohead album from her when she left home. I have listened to them all, many times, and grew to like them a great deal. This is how discovering music sometimes works, which doesn't surprise me at all. Coincidentally, she is off with her mum tonight to see.........The Spice Girls. |
thomasquinn 32989 13.06.2019 14:06 |
aristide1 wrote: Art rock, alternative rock and experimental rock genres (with a touch of electronica and space rock) usually describe alienated music for alienated audience. It's a surprise to me that people with allegedly high musical tastes talk about Radiohead and Muse. Maybe your children used to listen this music and you empathize with them, or you are an amateur musician who feels that your playing is as good if not better than theirs, etc. Because I can't imagine you actually like this kind of anti-music."Anti-music", or more generally "anti-art", has been the go-to slur for the second-rate music critic utterly unable to comprehend what's placed before him since Eduard Hanslick. The way you use the term alienation strongly suggests that you've heard it somewhere, didn't grasp its meaning quite fully enough, and are now delighted to have the opportunity to use it...only to *just* fail. But at one point, you actually strike home and say something that, were it not obvious that you didn't mean it that way, would have been truly insightful: Because I can't imagine you actually like this kind of anti-music.That's the whole point - you can't imagine it. This has nothing to do with the music (or "anti-music") in question, and everything with your utter inability or refusal to consider anything that falls outside your comfort zone. Although you (knowingly or unknowingly) combined a traditionalist conservative view of music with Marxist social theory, the irony is that you are doing so in the most petty-bourgeois way whilst feigning a kind of enlightened radicalism. It truly is regrettable that you probably don't understand any of the above. |
bucsateflon 13.06.2019 14:07 |
aristide1 wrote: Art rock, alternative rock and experimental rock genres (with a touch of electronica and space rock) usually describe alienated music for alienated audience. It's a surprise to me that people with allegedly high musical tastes talk about Radiohead and Muse. Maybe your children used to listen this music and you empathize with them, or you are an amateur musician who feels that your playing is as good if not better than theirs, etc. Because I can't imagine you actually like this kind of anti-music.Haha, and idiots say I am trolling... In reality this debile is trolling: The Real Wizard wrote: They are the most important band of the past 25 years. |
dysan 13.06.2019 15:44 |
Opinions are like Radiohead leaks. Everyone has 18 hour-long files of them. |
. 13.06.2019 15:53 |
I would like to give them a listen, I imagine. |
Makka 13.06.2019 16:15 |
The Kurgan wrote: I would like to give them a listen, I imagine.Highly recommend to have a listen. |
dysan 13.06.2019 16:43 |
Yeah it's great. Like I say, I'm not a huge huge fan but it's like an audio documentary - or flicking through a scrapbook. Recommended. I've been thinking how I'd tackle it if it was, say, a similar volume of Bowie '71 / '72 material. Headphones on, sat on my beanbag eating crisps. Get into the 1970s, absorb the majesty. |
aristide1 13.06.2019 18:01 |
So I've heard about the term alienation, don't now what it means but I'm delighted to use it. Are you serious thomasquinn? You certainly don't miss any opportunity to present me in an unfavorable light, but despite the increased budget allocated for this purpose over time the result it totally opposite, believe me. You only manage to define yourself as an intellectual stalker, a rare breed but not superior to the ordinary stalker, since your distilled comments display even more meanness and lack of truth. |
Negative Creep 13.06.2019 19:08 |
Wilki Amieva wrote: The 'masters' are mp3 files @ 128 kbps, each a bulk rip of one of the 18 MDs. This is a shame as it means a lossy source (MD) was re-encoded in a lossy format (mp3), further degrading the audio. Also, there are no track splits and no documentation other than scans of the actual discs. A fantastic listen, anyway!No - the leak was low bitrate mp3s. What Radiohead have released is straight transfers of the Minidiscs. If you download in flac, WAV or aiff formats on bandcamp there is no further lossy encoding. Minidiscs are lossy, but ATRAC compression is vastly superior to mp3. |
Negative Creep 13.06.2019 19:21 |
Penetration_Guru wrote: This is technically what Queen tried to do with the Top 100 Bootlegs. They just cocked up the execution.It isn't. QPL were just re-releasing widely available bootlegs of live material in mp3 form. These are the personal working tapes of Thom Yorke in higher resolution. |
dysan 13.06.2019 20:24 |
What year was the 100 Bootleg thing? I remember when Spotify started the Queen section was made up entirely of those bootlegs. Extraordinary really. |
Saint Jiub 14.06.2019 00:02 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Why were you in bucsateflon's mother's basement?Kevin Spacey wrote: WTF is your problem bucsateflon? You post that Radiohead is shite or something to that effect and either everyone agrees with you or they are demented. Arguing opinions is useless so if you have nothing else to contribute to this thread get lost in space.We should probably stop trying to reason with internet trolls in their mothers' basements. Is she hot? |
dysan 14.06.2019 19:13 |
Oh, Bucsateflon Co. We really love you, and we need you And oh, Bucsateflon Co . We'd really love to believe you But now everyone's trolling round We gotta sort it out somehow Oh, we said "Now go" We said we'd like you to, because we've read you And oh, Bucsateflon Co. We know if you don't post then none of us do And everything's under parr We've gotta up our game somehow Yeah, yeah Queenzone's burning down We gotta put it out somehow |
Jimmy Dean 14.06.2019 19:17 |
Banana Co! |
dysan 14.06.2019 19:20 |
Absolute choon |
Jimmy Dean 14.06.2019 19:47 |
dysan wrote: What year was the 100 Bootleg thing? I remember when Spotify started the Queen section was made up entirely of those bootlegs. Extraordinary really. |
dysan 14.06.2019 21:23 |
eh? |
Makka 15.06.2019 07:12 |
dysan wrote: Oh, Bucsateflon Co. We really love you, and we need you And oh, Bucsateflon Co . We'd really love to believe you But now everyone's trolling round We gotta sort it up somehow Oh, we said "Now go" We said we'd like you to, because we've read you And oh, Bucsateflon Co. We know if you don't post then none of us do And everything's under parr We've gotta up our game somehow Yeah, yeah Queenzone's burning down We gotta put it out somehowGreat song. Nice lyric change! :) |
aristide1 15.06.2019 10:03 |
You forgot to mention that Bucsateflon song is dedicated to The Wizard, who apparently has earned the right to aberrate from time to time (now is one of those times), while the other must justify every syllable. The usual queenzone multiple standards. The guys from the attached picture are the most important band of the past 25 years, right? Just to be sure, because I'm a little confused. |
dysan 15.06.2019 10:52 |
Like I said a few times before, I'm not a huge fan and find much of their output to be style over substance but I'm really struggling to think of a comparable band with the same longevity in that time frame. |
aristide1 15.06.2019 11:16 |
Substance and longevity, that's fine. How about Threshold, Pallas, IQ, Pendragon & Arena, Marillion? Maybe not the best bands, but at least doesn't make you ashamed to listen them. |
dysan 15.06.2019 11:34 |
These are all much earlier yes? And yes lots of bands going further into weird, but retaining the commercial output too? |
aristide1 15.06.2019 12:50 |
If Radiohead was formed in 1985 then those bands are not much earlier. But let's focus on the short and fertile period after 2000. Threshold - Hypothetical (2001) Threshold - Critical Mass (2002) Threshold - Subsurface (2004) Pallas - The Cross & The Crucible (2001) Pallas - The Dreams of Men (2005) IQ - The Seventh House (2000) IQ - Dark Matter (2004) Arena - Immortal (2000) Arena - Contagion (2003) Arena - Pepper's Ghost (2005) ________________________________________ Radiohead - Kid A (2000) Radiohead - Hail to the Thief (2003) Linkin Park - Hybrid Theory (2000) Linkin Park - Meteora (2003) Don't immediately see the connection between Radiohead and Linkin Park? Both are "rock" bands in the most broadest sense of the word, which only a cool teenager can appreciate (for a short time until get bored). If you can't stay above the line then at least don't try to reverse the musical hierarchy. The last will be the first only in Bible, in music the last will always be the last. |
dysan 15.06.2019 13:13 |
I don't get what you're saying tbh. |
Dr Magus 15.06.2019 18:29 |
I've lost interest in Radiohead in the last 10 years or so but The Bends and OK Computer are two works of art and the quality of their b-sides from 94-97 is phenomenal. Muse are another band I kinda lost interest in but have happy memories of the Falling Down messageboard in 2000 when I became a fan. Absolution is my fave album of theirs and saw them live three times back in the day. |
dysan 15.06.2019 18:43 |
Can't beat Plug In Baby coming on the jukebox when you're half cut in the pub |
dysan 15.06.2019 18:43 |
Not really related, but today I was surprised how many albums Ash had released since I last checked in the early 00s. |
Jimmy Dean 17.06.2019 03:14 |
dysan wrote: Not really related, but today I was surprised how many albums Ash had released since I last checked in the early 00s.Meltdown was the last time Ash really sounded like Ash. |
Jimmy Dean 17.06.2019 03:14 |
dysan wrote: Not really related, but today I was surprised how many albums Ash had released since I last checked in the early 00s.Meltdown was the last time Ash really sounded like Ash. |
dysan 17.06.2019 06:44 |
Yeah I think that was the last one I was aware got released. Never the greatest band of the era, but I certainly was on their side. |
The Real Wizard 17.06.2019 13:52 |
Saint Jiub wrote:What happens in the basement stays in the basement.The Real Wizard wrote:Why were you in bucsateflon's mother's basement? Is she hot?Kevin Spacey wrote: WTF is your problem bucsateflon? You post that Radiohead is shite or something to that effect and either everyone agrees with you or they are demented. Arguing opinions is useless so if you have nothing else to contribute to this thread get lost in space.We should probably stop trying to reason with internet trolls in their mothers' basements. |
dysan 18.06.2019 17:57 |
Wizard did you see my corrections to the ad libs on the Madrid '86 bootleg on the relevant thread in Announce? |
dysan 18.06.2019 17:57 |
Ah cool just checked :) |