| dysan 21.04.2019 18:30 |
link Queen - Jazz (1978) “Of course A Night At The Opera is brilliant. But what I recall as a kid was that my brother and I would throw around the vinyl copy of that album as a frisbee. There was never any disrespect intended, but that’s just what happened. “Now, Jazz… that always seemed to be on the turntable whenever my parents had a party. It’s one of my earliest memories of those parties, actually. So, in a way I was brought up on it. Of course, the fact that there was a poster inside the album with lots of naked girls riding bicycles has nothing whatsoever to do with my love for this album. It’s all about the music to me!” |
| mooghead 21.04.2019 19:49 |
But who cares what he says? |
| dysan 21.04.2019 20:00 |
Fair point |
| Saint Jiub 22.04.2019 00:36 |
Thanks for posting this, amusing, yet inconsequential, tidbit that brought a smile to my face ... |
| thomasquinn 32989 22.04.2019 11:27 |
Let me just channel the mainstream of opinion here on QZ: How DARE he like Jazz. You can't like Jazz. You have to hate it, it's crap, despite the fact that it's got great songs. The production is 'terrible', despite the fact that it's the kind of sound that was really popular in the late '70s. None of the members of Queen liked Jazz, none of the fans like it. Nobody ever bought the album, apart from some perverts who just wanted the poster. In fact, it's not even a Queen-album, it's all a hoax. Jazz never happened! On a more serious note: I think there would be a different kind of response here (apart from mooghead, who would whine regardless of what the subject was) if he'd picked any other Queen-album other than Hot Space or Flash Gordon. I honestly don't get the hate against Jazz, which is a fine album and by any reasonable definition much better than The Game, which never gets such flack. |
| dysan 22.04.2019 11:35 |
Yeah, Jazz is one of my favs. The fact he also selected a Cardiacs record too - a class act. |
| Holly2003 22.04.2019 12:40 |
This is Justin back in 2013, a few seconds before he accidentally bonked me on the head with his Gibson. At least, I think it was an accident. As for Jazz, why not? Great album, Sound's a bit muddy but the songs, playing etc are classic Queen. |
| Star* 22.04.2019 13:25 |
Holly2003 You need bonking on the head silly woman. |
| dysan 22.04.2019 13:43 |
Oh look here comes the brains of the outfit |
| Star* 22.04.2019 14:57 |
The Game is a classier Queen album than Jazz and has sophistication oozing from every track! i love it ! Play the Game, Crazy Little Thing, Save Me , Sail Away Sweet Sister, Dragon Attack etc ........ knockout. |
| Holly2003 22.04.2019 16:33 |
Walter seems to have a case of verbal diarrhea today. |
| bucsateflon 22.04.2019 18:48 |
The Game is the worst Queen album |
| Star* 22.04.2019 19:09 |
The Game was the bands biggest album in the states, its brilliant. |
| Jimmy Dean 23.04.2019 05:07 |
bucsateflon wrote: The Game is the worst Queen albumAlmost as bad as News of The World and a Night at the Opera. But the Game was THE final nail in the coffin. Jazz and Hot Space - the very definition of desert island discs. |
| Jimmy Dean 23.04.2019 05:24 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote: Jazz, which is a fine album and by any reasonable definition much better than The Game, which never gets such flack.can you define reasonable in the context of Jazz > The Game? - sales - hits - critical success - mass appeal - which one had Sail Away Sweet Sister? - which one had Fun It or More Of The Jazz? Jazz is not the worst album - but not as great as Queen II through News of the World, or maybe only in my opinion, The Game and Innuendo. I'd pick Jazz over Hot Space through The Miracle and Made In Heaven. As much as the running order and production of Jazz sucks, it has enough variety that does make it a fun listen every now and again. |
| Dim 23.04.2019 06:05 |
Jazz is a great album, it has many elements of early Queen sound like fairy fellers master stroke part on Bicycle race, keep yourself alive on Dead on time, big vocals, guitar orchestrations on dreamers balls. But also many experimental stuff. In terms of writing is better than NOTW, it suffers from production which makes the songs sound less good than the really are. Roger didn't like the sound as the others did. His songs suffer the most due to band engineering. The Game has very good production and is a step towards to more radio friendly songs. Back in late 70s the industry wanted more radio friendly songs. It was a changing Era in music business. |
| Star* 23.04.2019 06:34 |
Queen album i detest the most is "Made In Heaven" over produced and it sounds plastic and cheesy. Jazz, Hot Space etc..... are great Queen albums in there own rights but have different directions and feel to them so surely that does not make them bad albums. I always admire a band wanting to try new things. |
| dysan 23.04.2019 06:57 |
Why didn't you just say that first then instead of trying to get a reaction by arguing with yourself? |
| Dim 23.04.2019 07:28 |
Jazz is a great album, it has many elements of early Queen sound like fairy fellers master stroke part on Bicycle race, keep yourself alive on Dead on time, general has big vocals, good guitar orchestrations like on dreamers balls. But also many experimental stuff. In terms of writing is better than NOTW, it suffers from production which makes the songs sound less good than they really are. Roger didn't like the sound as the others did. His songs suffer the most due to bad engineering. The Game has very good production and is a step towards to more radio friendly songs. Back in late 70s the industry wanted more radio friendly songs. It was a changing Era in music business. |
| mika251 23.04.2019 07:41 |
Jazz was never my favourite album but the older I am the more I like it. I definitely pick it over Miracle, but maybe I'm not old enough to appreciate the Miracle and this time will come too :) It has some very strange atmosphere, I can't describe it properly. But it is very different compared to any other album released before and after - it kind of stands in its own cathegory. It doesn't mean it is bad, it is just different. |
| Star* 23.04.2019 11:55 |
Dysan We do not care what you think, anyway get down to job centre plus or you will get sanctioned Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ! |
| Vocal harmony 23.04.2019 11:55 |
Jazz is great, it's the last of the classic bombastic over the top sounding Queen albums. Up to that point they were still trying, and succeeding, to be different. The Game less so, they became followers of what was current, simpler production. Play The Game and Sail Away Sweet Sister had echoes of old. I still like and play it but not as much as what had come before. The rest of he 80's to me was patchy though Inuendo was a return to form and Made In Heaven I thought was a brilliant piece of work made under ont ideal conditions but somehow retained the over the top production of the early albums while not sounding like it was of that period. |
| Holly2003 23.04.2019 14:05 |
Java wrote: Dysan We do not care what you think, anyway get down to job centre plus or you will get sanctioned Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa !You have a clear case of sand in your vagina. |
| Star* 23.04.2019 14:16 |
Holly 2003 a vagina is better than what you have which is a cunt. |
| Holly2003 23.04.2019 14:26 |
Java wrote: Holly 2003 a vagina is better than what you have which is a cunt.Sand in your vag and shit between your ears. |
| Star* 23.04.2019 14:45 |
Holly2003 You should know that as i can smell you from here. |
| dysan 23.04.2019 14:53 |
Dear God mun |
| Holly2003 23.04.2019 15:00 |
Java wrote: Holly2003 You should know that as i can smell you from here.You can't smell someone over the internet you fucking tool lol! So that must be your own stank you're sitting in. |
| Star* 23.04.2019 16:33 |
Holly2003 Told you that you are so fucking brain dead and thick that i almost pity you. |
| Holly2003 23.04.2019 17:59 |
Java wrote: Holly2003 Told you that you are so fucking brain dead and thick that i almost pity you.Save your pity for anyone who knows you. |
| Star* 23.04.2019 19:11 |
People dont pity me they admire me because i am very smart love. |
| Holly2003 23.04.2019 19:30 |
Java wrote: People dont pity me they admire me because i am very smartlink |
| Saint Jiub 24.04.2019 00:04 |
Java wrote: Dysan We do not care what you think, anyway get down to job centre plus or you will get sanctioned Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa !We??? How many multiple personalities does your disorder have, Sybil??? |
| Star* 24.04.2019 10:41 |
Saint Jiub Probably one more than yours ha ha ha |
| Vocal harmony 24.04.2019 16:45 |
Java wrote: People dont pity me because i am just a dick love.Well said Gerryhappyjavanext, but I think we got that a while back |
| Star* 24.04.2019 19:38 |
Bitch as much as you want Vocal Harmony but you are no innocent either. People on here have told me you are basket case. |
| Jeremy 24.04.2019 21:32 |
Jazz's production is very late-70's Roy Thomas Baker. In fact, while producing Journey's "Infinity" album, the first to feature Steve Perry on vocals, Journey's manager complained about Roy's technique of running the tracks through his own personal mixer, sending them at very hot levels to the tape machine which hyped the sound considerably but also introduced hiss and added a thin element to the tracks.. In fact, Journey's manager noted that Baker was peaking every meter on his own personal mixer before the tracks went to tape. Check out any of the tracks from "Infinity" and you'll hear a sonic thread that carries on through Jazz. |
| Star* 25.04.2019 06:10 |
Yeah so sad that Queen's JAZZ album was a bit over produced but i wonder what it would have been like if Mack had produced it, would the sound and production be as good as The Game perhaps? |
| dysan 25.04.2019 06:49 |
Depends if you have a problem with the production really. I like it - it's just a distinctive sound. I think it's more a case if they recorded it in familiar surroundings. But then it would miss out on the environmental factors which make it so unique material-wise. |
| bucsateflon 25.04.2019 07:50 |
Many of you dumb asses are just sheep, if 2 or 3 idiots said an album sucks or a song or a concert, you immediately jump on the bandwagon, creating a false hype. |
| dysan 25.04.2019 08:01 |
So what are your thoughts on Jazz? |
| bucsateflon 25.04.2019 10:36 |
"If You Can't Beat Them" is the only garbage song on that album, unlike "The Game" which has multiple utter garbage songs |
| dysan 25.04.2019 10:39 |
You know what, I've really been digging that tune recently for the first time since I first heard the album way back but I see what you mean. |
| Star* 25.04.2019 10:52 |
Bucstateflon Are you a real Queen fan or do you come on here to slag the bands classic albums? Jazz & The Game albums are classic and still better than anything in the album charts today by miles. |
| Vocal harmony 25.04.2019 10:53 |
Java wrote: Yeah so sad that Queen's JAZZ album was a bit over produced but i wonder what it would have been like if Mack had produced it, would the sound and production be as good as The Game perhaps?It's no more over produced than any of the first five albums. Thinking about the point made about Journey and thinking back to ANATO the top end on that album within the mix sounds quite harsh and almost brittle, but ADATR and NOTW have a less harsh though dry top end and a warmer sounding low and mid. Over all to me they sound better than ANATO (production wise) so it seems strange that Roy Thomas Baker would be asked to produce Jazz. I'm not sure Mack's production would have worked on Jazz I certainly don't think something like Bicycle Race would have worked with his simpler approach. As an example the backing vocals on Play The Game are great and really well recorded but have less ambience and a tighter closer sound than Queen typically achieved prior to that. As for Jazz, I really like the album though it's not my favourite sounding album nd The Game is great because it went somewhere new and did it well |
| Star* 25.04.2019 10:58 |
Why should a song have anything to do with a production process then? Mack may have made "Bicycle Race" better than Roy, we will never know now. |
| dysan 25.04.2019 11:13 |
I don't think Jazz could've been made using drum loops like much of The Game and Hot Space. |
| Star* 25.04.2019 15:35 |
I am not bothered about drum loops its the quality of the songs that count for me. The Miracle album was the start of Queen's demise sadly as the brilliant songwriting was starting to dry up. |
| bucsateflon 25.04.2019 16:03 |
luckily their melody making brilliance was boosted up to cover for their lyric writing dry up |
| bucsateflon 25.04.2019 16:03 |
clearly |
| Star* 25.04.2019 16:30 |
The Miracle dis have a few great songs Was it all worth it, I want it all Breakthru but as for Party and Kashoggi ship well those tracks were boring. |
| dysan 25.04.2019 16:53 |
I'm connected to both albums for such different reasons it's impossible to play them all off against each other. |
| Star* 25.04.2019 18:35 |
Exactly both albums are brilliant in there own way and Freddie & the boys were on fire on both. 1978 to 1980 Queen produced some fantastic tunes. |
| dysan 25.04.2019 18:37 |
I meant The Miracle :) |
| King of all Queen fans 18.05.2019 07:30 |
*** Taking a shit *** |