| FMBMJDRT 14.04.2019 14:10 |
I note that according to various company websites John resigned from Queen Touring Ltd in 2012 shortly before the Adam Lambert Tour and resigned from Queen Films Ltd in 2016 before Bohemian Rhapsody filming started. Are these significant developments or merely tidying up of business interests? Can anyone with any business insights offer a view? |
| people on streets 14.04.2019 14:20 |
who cares? |
| mooghead 14.04.2019 14:33 |
He really is a man of principle isn't he? (Bet if he knew how much money the film would make he would have thought twice...) |
| FMBMJDRT 14.04.2019 14:45 |
I think he will still make money from the film through Queen Productions Ltd but I just wondered what the significance if any was of those two resignations. |
| mooghead 14.04.2019 16:33 |
Just seeing things going in a direction he didn't really approve of? |
| dysan 14.04.2019 17:13 |
You know I never could foresee the future years... |
| dysan 14.04.2019 17:13 |
d'oh d'oh d'oh d'oh d'oh |
| Star* 14.04.2019 18:23 |
I think if i knew Adam Lambert was joining Queen i would resign pretty sharpish too. Clever John not getting involved in the embarrassing day to day of Queens shame and hype with an American Idol wanker. |
| stevelondon20 14.04.2019 21:05 |
Wow |
| Jimmy Dean 15.04.2019 02:41 |
could have been that brian and roger kicked him out of those two ventures since it relates to an active business that he decided to not be part of. it wouldn't make sense for him to benefit from future distributions (dividends) if he was retired from any ongoing queen activity. Performance (tours) and consulting (queen film). these were also structured as separate legal corporations since they deviate from the type of revenue earned for which john is still part of (royalties, etc) |
| Jimmy Dean 15.04.2019 02:45 |
also, i don't think queen necessarily directly profits from the movie... unless their consulting fee including some type of profit sharing element with producer. Queen benefited from the mass-marketing the movie indirectly provided. John and the estate of FM would have in addition to Brian and Roger - likely through Queen Productions. (ie. Royalties, merchandise, etc.) |
| Dr Magus 15.04.2019 12:17 |
Nah John just pressed the wrong button on his phone. Easily done. |
| aristide1 15.04.2019 13:53 |
John - the man of principle - becomes a common Queen myth, who probably will survive us all. How about John - the dumb fuck lucky bastard ? Because the only reason we speak of him today is the generosity of his fellow bandmates. A "man of principle" should try to repay this generosity in some ways, by supporting Queen projects, or by commemorating the dead one in a book. His silence shows a man with pathological lack of any principles. |
| dudeofqueen 15.04.2019 14:07 |
artside1 You, sir, are a fucktard. |
| Star* 15.04.2019 14:16 |
aristide1 That was a very unfair post on John Deacon, and have you not thought John has quit Queen because he has just had enough after Freddie died, He had and probably still has depression which people carry for many many years and most likely gave up and is sick of Queen the way Brian & Roger have trashed it now. John has his own good memories of Freddie and the band and why should he participate in projects like the other two greedy buggers? He knows Freddie was the only lead singer for Queen and after that he drew a line and May & Taylor crossed that line with the awful Adam Lambert. His Silence is from a man that is probably disgusted and still in shock from May & Taylor who have no common decency after the death of Freddie, they have made £28 million each out of Freddie with the Bo Rhap film which was not even accurate. |
| Thistle 15.04.2019 17:13 |
aristide1 wrote: John - the man of principle - becomes a common Queen myth, who probably will survive us all. How about John - the dumb fuck lucky bastard ? Because the only reason we speak of him today is the generosity of his fellow bandmates. A "man of principle" should try to repay this generosity in some ways, by supporting Queen projects, or by commemorating the dead one in a book. His silence shows a man with pathological lack of any principles.Shut up you retarded gimp. I'd call you a wanker, but I think you might be missing the equipment. |
| PrimeJiveUSA 15.04.2019 18:44 |
So it's improbable that Queen aren't receiving a share of the movie profits? Ouch! The tabloids make it out like the surviving members(and Mary) are making tens if millions directly from the film's profits. |
| FMBMJDRT 15.04.2019 20:04 |
The more I learn about JD the more bemused I am. Do you think he discusses Queen matters with his wife and children? Do they approve of the way he handles things? Pure speculation I know but it must impact on them to some degree belong so big. |
| fras444 16.04.2019 07:23 |
I'd love to be the fly on the wall during the family sunday roast at "The Deacons...!!!" (Sounds like a great title for the new reality tv show!!!) Jeez there would be some bloody interesting conversations at the dinner table!!! "John!!!" "You have a bloody degree in electronics but you have yet to rewire that bloody reading lamp above my side of the bed!!!!" "It's been almost 25 years JOHN!!! 25 fuckin years since you have retired and you haven't done one simple thing!!!" " I wish I was Brian May....." "At least he got a whole.. what are those things called that you plug that thing Brian plays???" ANYWAY...." "Dad...???" "There is this strange man called Matt... He wants to know if he can "borrow" your bass guitar..." |
| fras444 16.04.2019 08:35 |
You know there are so many hypotheses on John Deacon and why he has left Queen.... Is he a hero and saying no to the band after Freddie died, Did he just decided.. Fuck it... I have $$$$ and the older I get the more grumpy/fuck the world mentality I get... Or..... Is it something that is just so obvious that some people just don't understand or get..... Depression... If reports are true.... and there has been many accounts from... Brian, Roger, managers and close friends to suggest that he is a fragile person and just watching some of those interviews he, like myself, can find some social engagements and some personalities just to hard to understand and cope (there was that one where him (in his woolen jumper) and Roger accepted an award and the way, someone pointed out how he went in for a weird hug and the presenter got his ear???) Moments like that and other interviews show he has waves of confidence and some very awkward moments. Watch him on stage and he is comes across as more confident than Brian at times. There is so much going on behind the scenes that "other" people have no idea on and just how deep that mind can go... Its a very scary world in your head and John... that generation where talking about that was simply a no no.... Did he just have no idea on how to handle Brian and to an extent, Roger during the final studio sessions for MIH that he realized that he had no mental tools to be able to talk and to get his ideas out and that he just... decided... the easiest way is to leave and over the years its just got more and more.... I feel like that at work over the last year... I use to work by myself and do projects etc have create my own plans. Now the "team" has doubled to two and I now have someone who has a strong personality and I just have no ideas on how to deal with it and have decided to go truck driving to be by myself as I am no leader and hate conflict.. Doing these personality courses has shown the person I am and things like... Someone actually involving me and asking for my opinions... its amazing, just amazing how a simple thing like that can make me feel and the opposite where this person "who jokes and is a loud mouth... how it really effects on how i act and how much self conscious I feel and how taking full control takes all of my control away....I can totally relate to John in the context of not wanting to go out or be apart of Queen regards if he had a mental illness as such. I seriously feel some days... If I had the money I would just want to escape everything and just hide esp when I go through spells of anxiety. Back to John... Are we just beginning to scrape the surface in regards to just how close Freddie and John were, and just how important Freddie was to John... Was Freddie that serious go between for John in studio? Did he just simply understood and GOT John?? and was able to get the best out of him, involve him??? Case study Made In Heaven... Was Roger that guy who (not like Freddie) had some idea on how to work with John and being just the two of them coming together for that very hard and sad task at hand of going through the last painful moments they had recorded with Freddie in studio and asking John for his ideas and input? Was Brian just that personality type that just simply clashed with Johns and did not have that understanding of Johns mind/feelings but not intentionally meant it. Took control of the MIH sessions, redid everything and possibly not include/ask for John's ideas and thoughts in that same context that Freddie most certainly did and to a lesser extent Roger during the initial stages of MIH? Was that the final straw for John and was it just far to much for him to try to get his head around? Did John see the future of Queen as simply more of "Going along for the ride because I just have no mental tools to understand Brian's personality and to not have any true input in regards with the direction Queen will go? Will it be just Brian's and to a lesser extent.. Rogers band...?" " If its just three of us it means that I will have to do more publicity work and that really scares the shit out of me...!!" "No one but you will be a fitting and perfect opportunity for me to leave Queen as QUEEN??" |
| aristide1 16.04.2019 12:04 |
You have a big budget fiction scenario my friend. How about an independent movie? John's problem is not mental, it's characterial. TA-RA-RA-RARAM were not songs until Freddie and Brian made songs out of them. All the credits received by John (individually or as QUEEN) were an act of extreme generosity from the band. He was not special, only received special treatment, who eventually ended in the 90s. As a result, the resentful John decided quit the band, almost in the same time when the others decided to fire him. In the end they are all fed up of each other. Geneva Lake sunset. Cut. Print. Check the gate. |
| Vocal harmony 16.04.2019 13:59 |
Next ! wrote: aristide1 That was a very unfair post on John Deacon, and have you not thought John has quit Queen because he has just had enough after Freddie died, He had and probably still has depression which people carry for many many years and most likely gave up and is sick of Queen the way Brian & Roger have trashed it now. John has his own good memories of Freddie and the band and why should he participate in projects like the other two greedy buggers? He knows Freddie was the only lead singer for Queen and after that he drew a line and May & Taylor crossed that line with the awful Adam Lambert. His Silence is from a man that is probably disgusted and still in shock from May & Taylor who have no common decency after the death of Freddie, they have made £28 million each out of Freddie with the Bo Rhap film which was not even accurate.He didn't draw a line under anything you daft twat. He recorded the Made In Heaven album, actually he and Roger started it. He recorded and appeared in the video for No One But You he made live appearances with Roger as Queen he played live with Brian, Roger and Elton John in Paris. He is still a director of Queen productions limited. Queen touting limited and Queen films are on going active things the band are involved in. John retired, he has given no official reason ( doesn't need too) so you don't know. Stop pretending you do. It therefore makes sense that he is not on the board of directors of something he is not involved in. |
| Star* 16.04.2019 14:01 |
What are you smoking because you sound very mindless and unkind here. John was a special guy, he may not have wrote many songs but when he did he wrote massive hits like "Another one bites the Dust" & " Your My Best Friend" You do not know much about Queen or john so go buy a book on Queen history. |
| aristide1 16.04.2019 15:37 |
So in fact he is John the businessman, not Saint John the Martyr, nor Mad John. Thank you for enlightening us VH. |
| dysan 16.04.2019 15:37 |
Or start a thread on here asking very basic questions. |
| bucsateflon 16.04.2019 15:57 |
"The enigma of John Deacon"... is the title of my next book. |
| aristide1 16.04.2019 16:10 |
Make it a comic strip if you want to be red by John. |
| mooghead 16.04.2019 16:16 |
John doesn't owe anything to anyone. He sits on his arse and watches the millions roll in. Who are the daft ones? |
| The Fairy King 16.04.2019 17:26 |
mooghead wrote: John doesn't owe anything to anyone. He sits on his arse and watches the millions roll in. Who are the daft ones?^This |
| Star* 16.04.2019 18:34 |
Take no notice of Vocal Harmony cos she talks utter shite and should be sectioned. She gives no proof or justification for any crap she preaches yet she expects the source from other folk on here. Vocal Harmony is unhinged and probably typing from the mental ward. |
| Vocal harmony 17.04.2019 13:52 |
Leader ! wrote: Take no notice of Vocal Harmony cos she talks utter shite and should be sectioned. She gives no proof or justification for any crap she preaches yet she expects the source from other folk on here. Vocal Harmony is unhinged and probably typing from the mental ward.You're the one in need of treatment and a long stay in a "mental ward" The proof of what John Deacon recorded, appeared in and with who is all available for anyone to listen to or view. Proof and justification are not words I'd associate with anything you post. And as usual your post is full of utter drivel and inaccurate comment. I'd expect nothing less from a turkey headed peanut brained goof |
| Star* 17.04.2019 14:31 |
Vocal Harmony ha ha you cannot prove what you said earlier can you because everything you write is made up. Show me proof why John Deacon retired show me evidence why you came to the conclusion that you did? |
| dysan 17.04.2019 15:16 |
My observation is that VH said things that are well known and probably don't require backing up while discussing this on such a learned forum as this. |
| Star* 17.04.2019 16:14 |
Why do they not need backing up then? Is she god or something? |
| dysan 17.04.2019 16:31 |
I'm sure none of it was news to you as a long term fan? |
| Star* 17.04.2019 18:28 |
How does VH know John is not on the board of directors ? Has she gone around to Deacy's house to ask him then? Of course i knew everything she waffles on about having been a fan since 1974. She is very highly strung and has a rather big poker nose.! lol |
| Holly2003 17.04.2019 18:43 |
Leader ! wrote: How does VH know John is not on the board of directors ? Has she gone around to Deacy's house to ask him then? Of course i knew everything she waffles on about having been a fan since 1974. She is very highly strung and has a rather big poker nose.! lolI bet you were pushed around in a pram well into your teens. |
| Star* 18.04.2019 06:49 |
Holly2003 Grow up you stupid retard bitch. |
| dysan 18.04.2019 07:24 |
Every time I see your new name I think of one of these and it's nice link |
| Star* 18.04.2019 10:27 |
Or Leader is a joinery DIY company selling all sorts of builders bits and pieces lol |
| Holly2003 18.04.2019 10:47 |
dysan wrote: Every time I see your new name I think of one of theseOld, slow, blows off steam, and pollutes its environment. A good analogy. |
| aristide1 18.04.2019 12:02 |
While you and VH shovel the fuel that keeps him running. |
| Vocal harmony 18.04.2019 14:50 |
Leader ! wrote: How does VH know John is not on the board of directors ? Has she gone around to Deacy's house to ask him then? Of course i knew everything she waffles on about having been a fan since 1974. She is very highly strung and has a rather big poker nose.! lolTry reading what the thread is about you brainless waste of space. The rest you are now claiming you know about because you've been a fan since The Great Pyramid was built. Why then are you questioning what I've said. . . . Oh yea of course it's because you've done what you always do, start off claiming one thing then do a U turn when it's obvious you're wrong...... And as I've pointed out before the rest of your post is utter crap as well. Dumb all over. . . . . And maybe a little ugly on the side as Mr Zappa once said. |
| Star* 18.04.2019 16:45 |
Vocal Harmony You are the one who spouts off all the facts on here so i am asking you to provide proof in what you have said, get that in your thick skull bitch, |
| dudeofqueen 18.04.2019 17:38 |
Leader!, Whilst I love a bit of banter and flaming, you come across as someone that is in dire need of having to obtain a license before being granted access to the internet. Do me a favour will you, old son? Take off the suspenders, bloomers and leather cap. Pop your cock away, don on some regular clothes and head off down the corridor to the superintendent's office and bring to their attention that you've been out of your own cell for far too long. Once they've locked you back up, feel free to amuse yourself with the shit you've taken 2062 posts over; no one else is remotely interested. |
| FMBMJDRT 18.04.2019 22:36 |
So back to the discussion about John and his current relationship to Queen then...! How does it work? Brian said in 2013 John had approved the film script but does that just mean he had not responded to emails asking for comment? The script has changed several times since then. Joe Mazello confirmed that John had not seen the film in an interview with a local radio station at the end of 2018 following email contact with his son Luke. Is there some mental issue there or does he not just care?? |
| FMBMJDRT 18.04.2019 22:36 |
So back to the discussion about John and his current relationship to Queen then...! How does it work? Brian said in 2013 John had approved the film script but does that just mean he had not responded to emails asking for comment? The script has changed several times since then. Joe Mazello confirmed that John had not seen the film in an interview with a local radio station at the end of 2018 following email contact with his son Luke. Is there some mental issue there or does he not just care?? |
| FMBMJDRT 18.04.2019 22:36 |
So back to the discussion about John and his current relationship to Queen then...! How does it work? Brian said in 2013 John had approved the film script but does that just mean he had not responded to emails asking for comment? The script has changed several times since then. Joe Mazello confirmed that John had not seen the film in an interview with a local radio station at the end of 2018 following email contact with his son Luke. Is there some mental issue there or does he not just care?? |
| Star* 19.04.2019 06:32 |
Dudeofqueen Go and look at the 679 illiterate crap posts that you have made, and firstly understand that Vocal Harmony has been harassing and bullying me on this site at her free will. Would you like to be stalked at every post you make then? She is obsessed and deranged and needs help. Before you spout your fucking mouth off pal, ask why i reply back the way i do. |
| dudeofqueen 19.04.2019 08:25 |
Leader!, re: >>Dudeofqueen Go and look at the 679 illiterate crap posts that you have made, and firstly understand that Vocal Harmony has been harassing and bullying me on this site at her free will. You went and read them all? Fucking brilliant; thanks. Shows how little you have in your life if you can either (a) remember each of them as they were posted or (b) have the time to research that. Still, institutional life must be a very lonely experience for you when we're all out here living the dream........ >>Would you like to be stalked at every post you make then? Listen sweetheart, having posts stalked here REALLY isn't of any consequence - It's. Not. Fucking. Real. Those meds you're on must be powerful or you're simply toking on a big'un...... >>She is obsessed and deranged and needs help. Really; you know her personally? See the previous response too. On the same level, applying the "takes-one-to-know-one" mantra, you'd know absolutely everything about that to tiniest of details. >>Before you spout your fucking mouth off pal, ask why i reply back the way i do. OK, here goes: Question from myself to me: "Why does Leader! reply back the way she does?" Answer from me to myself: " The meds she's on must be powerful or she's simply toking on a big'un......" C'mon, the nurses are calling you back down now and have your cuddly Orangutan hot water bottle ready. |
| Star* 19.04.2019 09:48 |
Dudeofqueen What the fuck are you smoking you deranged arse wipe, do yourself a favour and get checked out you loony. |
| dudeofqueen 19.04.2019 10:10 |
WOW!!!!!!!!!! Proof positive that multiple personality disorder exists right here on Queenzone Zitrone or Leader! ? Who knows which of you is going to show up? Is it related to the time at which your case worker injects your meds? Re: >do yourself a favour and get checked out you loony. Done; clean bill of health received - you can have a copy if you like to see what one looks like when compared to your DID diagniosis. >you deranged arse wipe Love that bit. Were you able to type that one-handed? |
| Star* 19.04.2019 13:03 |
Dudeofqueen (aka Vocal Harmony) games over you are the biggest troll on Queenzone. carry on trolling because i am the better man on here than you. You are so sad hurling insult after insult it shows you have low confidence and probably a bag head. Be thankful we never meet or you would not be coming out of hospital, i would shut you up right up. |
| dudeofqueen 19.04.2019 13:58 |
Zitrone, re: >Dudeofqueen (aka Vocal Harmony) Nope - factually incorrect. Never met her. Here, you have two different people that think you're a cunt. Not a bad strike rate. But that old DID kicking in will lead to you potentially seeing, hearing and smelling things that, really, aren't there........ >You are so sad hurling insult after insult it shows you have low confidence and probably a bag head. Does it? Confidence is incredibly high, actually. A recent pay rise, news of an impending album release from the greatest band in the world, coupled with the onset of summer and a wonderful family, I'm - frankly - buzzing. As for the "bag head", perhaps the nurses ought to run you through the spell checker facility or, alternatively, proof-read everything before you press enter....... >games over you are the biggest troll on Queenzone. carry on trolling Again, factually incorrect - artside1, william.k.mahler and those of their ilk are a heck of a lot more prolific at trolling than I. But I reckon you may just have come up with a great film title there without even knowing it - perhaps you could suggest that to the Warden as it might look good on your record - if successful - ahead of any potential day-release scheduled. >Be thankful we never meet or you would not be coming out of hospital, i would shut you up right up. Promise? But ONLY if you guarantee to set up a boouncy castle covered in loganberry jam, wear your ninja outfit and keep your tits covered up. |
| aristide1 19.04.2019 14:15 |
If you feel the urge to act as moderator, at least make an effort and pick the right person.
Leader! wrote: That was a very unfair post on John Deacon, and have you not thought John has quit Queen because he has just had enough after Freddie died, He had and probably still has depression which people carry for many many years and most likely gave up and is sick of Queen the way Brian & Roger have trashed it now. John has his own good memories of Freddie and the band and why should he participate in projects like the other two greedy buggers? He knows Freddie was the only lead singer for Queen and after that he drew a line and May & Taylor crossed that line with the awful Adam Lambert. His Silence is from a man that is probably disgusted and still in shock from May & Taylor who have no common decency after the death of Freddie, they have made £28 million each out of Freddie with the Bo Rhap film which was not even accurate. Vocal harmony wrote: He didn't draw a line under anything you daft twat. [FIRST PHRASE OF HER FIRST COMMENT HERE]Which of those comments should be moderated, you dumb fuck? |
| dudeofqueen 19.04.2019 14:23 |
As if by magic.......... |
| aristide1 19.04.2019 14:51 |
dudeofqueen wrote: As if by magic............. from manic to depressive. |
| PrimeJiveUSA 19.04.2019 21:34 |
So does anyone know if Queen are receiving a share of the movie's profits? |
| Star* 20.04.2019 06:36 |
dudeofqueen I feel so sorry for you as you have lost the plot. You are the one hurling insults and the poor soul who only wanted a serious discussion on this thread has had it messed up because of you and Vocal Harmony wanting a fight yet again. You have the intelligence of a greenfly and frankly not worth bothering with. If you had any decency about you then you would mind your own business and jog on. If you are a simpleton you will probably reply back to this. |
| mooghead 20.04.2019 07:32 |
The petty squabbling is turning this place to shit. Grow the fuck up, both of you. |
| mooghead 20.04.2019 07:32 |
The petty squabbling is turning this place to shit. Grow the fuck up, both of you. |
| Star* 20.04.2019 11:04 |
Mooghead i never started the rows on this thread, that was Vocal Harmony yet again and then that other idiot Saint Juib joined her, very sad seeing grown up people like that with the mentality of a 3 year old. |
| Star* 20.04.2019 11:05 |
Also dudeofqueen is in need of some therapy as that is one fucked up man. |
| dudeofqueen 20.04.2019 11:26 |
mooghead, re: >The petty squabbling is turning this place to shit. Grow the fuck up, both of you. Twas ever thus here on QZ; not being moderated, I'll indulge in the baiting of buffoons like Zitrone - or Legend! or whoever she decides she's going to be today - until that changes. Hopefully, there will be the odd nugget of interest that warrants "Serious Discussion", but as they are fewer and further between than Queen product releases of real value, the descent will continue unless sense prevails and this whole board is revamped, re-jigged and cleared of all the detritus. |
| Star* 20.04.2019 12:57 |
dudeofqueen You will be the first to go if this site got revamped. You have not made one sensible contribution to this thread at all. All you have done is troll and defend your loony friend Vocal Harmony. Two peas in a pod, deranged and lost the plot. |
| dudeofqueen 20.04.2019 13:51 |
Zitrone, re: >dudeofqueen You will be the first to go if this site got revamped. Bet you £50 I'm not. |
| Star* 20.04.2019 14:13 |
I do not start the bitching on here mate, Vocal Harmony just swoops in with insults just when we have a decent little thread and everyone is contributing nicely She is the virus on this web site and she needs to go. |
| dudeofqueen 20.04.2019 15:09 |
Another name change? From what (or whom) are you running? |
| Star* 20.04.2019 16:19 |
Does not take much to screw your minds up on here does it? |
| dudeofqueen 20.04.2019 17:08 |
Himbeer, re: >Does not take much to screw your minds up on here does it? Really; banged to rights, clearly. A devious little sprite you are. Not sure you know how or when to use a question mark though........buffoon. |
| Star* 20.04.2019 18:12 |
dudeofqueen Lets just stop all the name calling and grow up. You have ruined this thread when everybody was been serious and discussing the topic. I am now moving on so do not bother to reply. Infact if you go to a public phone box you can have a row with yourself if you ring your mobile number up. Good luck. |
| mooghead 20.04.2019 18:45 |
Why you keep changing your name? You are the cancer of this site. |
| mooghead 20.04.2019 18:46 |
'Cancer' might be harsh. Narcassistic attention seeker more like. |
| dudeofqueen 21.04.2019 08:34 |
mooghead, re: >Why you keep changing your name? You are the cancer of this site. And even managed to bugger that up - surely Herbeer would directly reflect gender......... |