| philip storey 14.02.2019 18:01 |
Last night I was strugguling to get to sleep so I decided to watch some of Freddie's performances on you tube."sheer heart attack" in paris.Plus "Dragon Attack" and "Somebody to love " from Milton Keynes.The way Freddie took the stage by storm was all over the stage ,pushing Moniters not in use even throwing his half Mic over the the top of poor Rogers head!A fantastic singer and showman at the very top of his game.I then watched two songs with Adam out front.He shuffled around the stage with his red fur coat on ,no stage craft and no effort at all.Hiis voice all over the place ,wiggling his ass for the glamberts.It made me feel very sad to watch this and what Brian and Roger see in him I don't know,oter than he is an American and has got interest in Queen back over the pond. I also noticed at the Bafta's on Sunday.There were quite a few Queen fans waiting for autographs from Brian and Roger.Brian walked up the red carpet with Anita and totally blanked the waiting fans.Roger signed about 4 autographs,They seem to have forgotten the fans gave them all that they have. |
| snifflese 14.02.2019 18:09 |
That is your opinion, which is you are totally entitled to. I have seen them twice live and that is not my impression at all. The audience is electric and everyone is cheering and singing and laughing when Adam's antics are just silly. He does it on purpose for a few of the songs and then he laughs, because he knows it was silly, and the audience laughs with him. Dragon Attack is not one of my favs, check out WWTLF, IWBTLY form the Asian tour or UP, as those are more serious and show his vocal prowess and the audience interaction in IWBTLY. I wish he would sing that one here. He has a different vibe than Freddie on Killer Queen, Dragon Attack, Bicycle and you either like it or you don't. The audience gets a great laugh over the "quirky, silly" part of the show. He isn't Freddie and that is what Brian and Roger wanted in a frontman and that is what they got. |
| SweetCaroline 14.02.2019 19:30 |
If Adam imitated Freddie running all over the stage, philip storey would complain that he is a copycat and not being original. Also, he wore that red fur coat 7 years ago and has become more comfortable since. |
| Star* 14.02.2019 19:31 |
Yes Brian in my opinion has became very arrogant to the point that he forgets it was us the ardent Queen fans of the last 30 years that made him rich and he conveniently forgets that. Adam is a complete joke for Queen although on his own he would do well. No one fits Queen other that Freddie because Queen was his creation alone. Freddie had the vision and the determination to make the band work. I have often done what you have done Philip by watching ten minutes of Freddie then Adam and i immediately see Queen now look ridiculous and lost and Adam has made Queen look trashy and a total dogs dinner. What the hell people see in this weird combo i just do not know, the world has gone mad. Freddie is still the king of Queen. |
| rockchic65 14.02.2019 19:36 |
philip storey wrote: Last night I was strugguling to get to sleep so I decided to watch some of Freddie's performances on you tube."sheer heart attack" in paris.Plus "Dragon Attack" and "Somebody to love " from Milton Keynes.The way Freddie took the stage by storm was all over the stage ,pushing Moniters not in use even throwing his half Mic over the the top of poor Rogers head!A fantastic singer and showman at the very top of his game.I then watched two songs with Adam out front.He shuffled around the stage with his red fur coat on ,no stage craft and no effort at all.Hiis voice all over the place ,wiggling his ass for the glamberts.It made me feel very sad to watch this and what Brian and Roger see in him I don't know,oter than he is an American and has got interest in Queen back over the pond. I also noticed at the Bafta's on Sunday.There were quite a few Queen fans waiting for autographs from Brian and Roger.Brian walked up the red carpet with Anita and totally blanked the waiting fans.Roger signed about 4 autographs,They seem to have forgotten the fans gave them all that they have.That show with the red fur jacket was back in 2012, hardly comparable with their later shows. link |
| rockchic65 14.02.2019 19:45 |
Clarity wrote: Yes Brian in my opinion has became very arrogant to the point that he forgets it was us the ardent Queen fans of the last 30 years that made him rich and he conveniently forgets that. Adam is a complete joke for Queen although on his own he would do well. No one fits Queen other that Freddie because Queen was his creation alone. Freddie had the vision and the determination to make the band work. I have often done what you have done Philip by watching ten minutes of Freddie then Adam and i immediately see Queen now look ridiculous and lost and Adam has made Queen look trashy and a total dogs dinner. What the hell people see in this weird combo i just do not know, the world has gone mad. Freddie is still the king of Queen.Sorry Gezzer but you're still talking utter bull. |
| Vocal harmony 14.02.2019 19:49 |
philip storey wrote: . . . . I also noticed at the Bafta's on Sunday.There were quite a few Queen fans waiting for autographs from Brian and Roger.Brian walked up the red carpet with Anita and totally blanked the waiting fans.Roger signed about 4 autographs,They seem to have forgotten the fans gave them all that they have.The fans in Auckland a couple of years ago who Brian signed autographs for and posed for photos with wouldn't agree with you. Brian is one of the most approachable rock stars and usually always finds time to talk, if he was with Anita on a red carpet with lots of press etc he wouldn't play Mr Rock star and leave her standing there like a spare part. |
| rockchic65 14.02.2019 20:27 |
Vocal harmony wrote:Yeah exactly. A group of Adam's fans were at the shows in Vegas and sat in the lobby of the hotel when Brian was walking through, he went over and sat down and talked with them for around 20mins, took photo's with them and answered lots of questions, they were thrilled and said he was so down to earth and sweet. I've read plenty comments from people who've met him in various places who all say he's really approachable but like anyone there must be times where he's just not able to stop and sign things etc for whatever reason.philip storey wrote: . . . . I also noticed at the Bafta's on Sunday.There were quite a few Queen fans waiting for autographs from Brian and Roger.Brian walked up the red carpet with Anita and totally blanked the waiting fans.Roger signed about 4 autographs,They seem to have forgotten the fans gave them all that they have.The fans in Auckland a couple of years ago who Brian signed autographs for and posed for photos with wouldn't agree with you. Brian is one of the most approachable rock stars and usually always finds time to talk, if he was with Anita on a red carpet with lots of press etc he wouldn't play Mr Rock star and leave her standing there like a spare part. |
| SweetCaroline 14.02.2019 21:08 |
Clarity, go to a QAL show when it comes near you — guaranteed to blow your mind! |
| philip storey 14.02.2019 21:47 |
I have seen QAL show and when AL got on his little bike I felt embarrassed he looked pathetic,his vocal range is awful,he has not one bit of stage presence.He is overweight which could be the reason that he does not move around the stage.When Freddie came of stage sweat was dripping from him,he had given every last drop of energy.Most of you AL fans have no idea of the history of the band and what they were in their prime,go on AL's sites as you can thenkiss his ass at your pleasure. |
| snifflese 14.02.2019 22:15 |
Obviously you couldn't have been at a show or you would know that Adam has a tremendous range. You must have seen someone else singing, not Adam. In fact Brian May has said that Adam's actual live singing range is more than Freddie's, as Freddie could sing some of those notes in the studio, but could not do it singing live. I just saw that remark in an interview with Brian the other day. You can hop over to the Freddie threads and do all the ass kissing that you like there. It is not needed here on the QAL thread. All of us know and greatly appreciate Freddie, but your remarks are unwarranted on this section of Queenzone. |
| rockchic65 14.02.2019 22:26 |
philip storey wrote: I have seen QAL show and when AL got on his little bike I felt embarrassed he looked pathetic,his vocal range is awful,he has not one bit of stage presence.He is overweight which could be the reason that he does not move around the stage.When Freddie came of stage sweat was dripping from him,he had given every last drop of energy.Most of you AL fans have no idea of the history of the band and what they were in their prime,go on AL's sites as you can thenkiss his ass at your pleasure.Adam has the range to sing in the original key and if you were embarrassed by him that's your issue, most people find it funny. Adam sweats on stage and he's not the least bit fat - maybe if you're comparing him to Freddie who was extremely slim especially in the 70's but not by any normal standards. And FYI I'm a Queen fan since 74 and only know of Adam through his collab with them. |
| SweetCaroline 14.02.2019 22:38 |
I’ve never seen Freddie live, only on DVDs. He moved non-stop, so much so that he was the whole show and pretty much upstaged the other 3 band members. That was fine back then but Adam has too much admiration and respect for the legends he is performing with now to try to be the whole show. Too fat? Hmmm, I don’t think he would fit in those tight leather pants if he is fat. He has a big frame, broad shoulders, long legs and moves pretty good for being over 6 feet! |
| Kuijpy 14.02.2019 22:44 |
SweetCaroline still alive? shit.... |
| Kuijpy 14.02.2019 22:44 |
SweetCaroline still alive? shit.... |
| SweetCaroline 14.02.2019 23:09 |
Last night in Vegas, 2018 — I Want It All ..... link |
| philip storey 14.02.2019 23:57 |
How's Adam's Opera range,song writing ability as for Brian saying Adams hits all the high notes better than Freddie if he said that I find that an awfull remark by Dr May.Freddie is a ledgnd who will never be forgotton.Mr Lambert soon as Queen call it a day he will fade away. |
| snifflese 15.02.2019 00:52 |
His opera range is way better than Freddie. Check out the Nessun Dorma video from a short while ago on here. His is a true trained tenor and he studied opera. Freddie's technique just was nowhere near as good. Brian is only speaking the truth, so there should be no problem with that. Go listen to Adam's version of Love Kills and compare it to Freddie. There is no comparison, although many may prefer Freddie's more raw, rock version. Adam's is more a ballad and he kills the high notes and it is tremendous. Freddie sings in a staccato fashion with a lot of vibrato, cutting off the notes and he sounds raw and shouty when singing the high notes. Adam hits the high notes beautifully and holds them out so that they soar. They are two entirely different kinds of singers and it is just a matter of what sound do you prefer. But to say that Adam can't sing and has no range is absolutely ridiculous. He will always have a career later on as a voice like that is just going to be singing. He is extremely well respected among people that value a voice. I imagine there will be more and more opportunities for him and he may well be on Broadway where you really have to bring it night in, night out. As long as he can have the fabulous experience of singing with Brian and Roger, singing the best musical catalog ever, to adoring crowds every night, why not? You would have to be a fool not to sing as part of QAL. There is probably almost nothing better than that gig. The three of them love performing together, so that is just the cherry on top!! |
| snifflese 15.02.2019 02:53 |
link These things never work for me, but this is where to find the interview with Brian. It is down the page on the Queen Will Rock site and it is a pic of Brian and it says Mandela somewhere on that one. He talks about Adam's voice and Freddie. I wasn't making it up!! |
| Iron Butterfly 15.02.2019 02:54 |
SweetCaroline wrote: I’ve never seen Freddie live, only on DVDs. He moved non-stop, so much so that he was the whole show and pretty much upstaged the other 3 band members. That was fine back then but Adam has too much admiration and respect for the legends he is performing with now to try to be the whole show. Too fat? Hmmm, I don’t think he would fit in those tight leather pants if he is fat. He has a big frame, broad shoulders, long legs and moves pretty good for being over 6 feet!Are you implying that Freddie had no respect for Brian, Roger and John? Because he had respect for them, and vice versa. You are in such a rush to big up AL, but there is no way Freddie was the whole show back then. Four of the guys made Queen what they were. |
| Iron Butterfly 15.02.2019 02:58 |
Freddie will always be the better vocalist, performer, songwriter, than AL ever has been, and there is something to be said about Freddie's and Queen's legacy still living on after all this time. |
| snifflese 15.02.2019 04:02 |
To me Queen has always been Freddie centric. The stories seemed to be centered around Freddie. If you listen to what fans say, it would seem that only Freddie wrote the music and Queen would never have been successful w/o Freddie. I have read that far too many times on Queen sites. So, yes, I would say Freddie was always front and center both on and off stage. I have noticed in the youtubes from back then, it is always Freddie strutting around doing his thing and the other guys are just kind of there in the background. There never seems to be an attempt to include them, which is very different from the interaction between Adam and all the guys on stage. For many people Queen was Freddie! That is why some folks think Brian and Roger shouldn't go on w/o him. He was irreplaceable in many minds. I think we can include you in that group. That is most definitely my perception that the band existed for Freddie. |
| snifflese 15.02.2019 04:06 |
Better vocalist is in the ears of the person listening. It depends on the type of voice that one enjoys. Not sure you can say that. I will say that performer and songwriter most definitely is true, but not necessarily vocalist. I guess two out of three is not bad and for some it would be all three, but not for everybody. There are some songs I think one or the other does better since it fits their particular voices better. That would be me just listening and not knowing who was singing them. I would not always say the same person. Just trying to be honest here. |
| Iron Butterfly 15.02.2019 05:20 |
snifflese wrote: To me Queen has always been Freddie centric. The stories seemed to be centered around Freddie. If you listen to what fans say, it would seem that only Freddie wrote the music and Queen would never have been successful w/o Freddie. I have read that far too many times on Queen sites. So, yes, I would say Freddie was always front and center both on and off stage. I have noticed in the youtubes from back then, it is always Freddie strutting around doing his thing and the other guys are just kind of there in the background. There never seems to be an attempt to include them, which is very different from the interaction between Adam and all the guys on stage. For many people Queen was Freddie! That is why some folks think Brian and Roger shouldn't go on w/o him. He was irreplaceable in many minds. I think we can include you in that group. That is most definitely my perception that the band existed for Freddie.I am a Freddie/Queen fan. I've never noticed many people who feel that Freddie wrote all the music. Would Queen ever happened without Freddie...I doubt it. The way the guys worked together is pretty amazing in my books. Freddie had a big personality, but I don't look at him as hogging the spotlight so to speak. Believe me, I think all four guys mattered. What group are you including me in? That Queen died with Freddie or that Brian and Roger should have retired? Yes, Freddie is irreplaceable no doubt about it. At least that we agree on ;-). |
| Iron Butterfly 15.02.2019 05:25 |
snifflese wrote: Better vocalist is in the ears of the person listening. It depends on the type of voice that one enjoys. Not sure you can say that. I will say that performer and songwriter most definitely is true, but not necessarily vocalist. I guess two out of three is not bad and for some it would be all three, but not for everybody. There are some songs I think one or the other does better since it fits their particular voices better. That would be me just listening and not knowing who was singing them. I would not always say the same person. Just trying to be honest here.I have no issue saying that I feel Freddie is a better singer, performer than AL. Do I think Freddie's vocals was always perfect, hell no, I hate how he sings POTF and GDML, it is hardly what I'd call his best. For me, and I've said this before, Freddie emotions while singing, is unlike anything I've heard before or since. It's the emotions in music which captures and keeps my attention. |
| snifflese 15.02.2019 05:36 |
I included you in the irreplaceable group, Icy!! Even you agree!! That is where he should be for you since I assume he is your fav artist!! I see and hear the emotions in Adam's voice and am amazed how he can just change the level of the sound and the tone of his voice for me to feel it, too. I have always been confused when other people don't find that Adam performs with emotion. The only thing I can think of is that his voice is so effortless and he doesn't strain and make faces (other than the tongue) like so many other people and that makes listeners think he is singing w/o passion. Some singers distort their faces and look like they are going to pop when they emote, so maybe that is it. Adam never looks like that really. To me it is a puzzle! I hear the passion in all his songs. |
| rockchic65 15.02.2019 06:50 |
philip storey wrote: How's Adam's Opera range,song writing ability as for Brian saying Adams hits all the high notes better than Freddie if he said that I find that an awfull remark by Dr May.Freddie is a ledgnd who will never be forgotton.Mr Lambert soon as Queen call it a day he will fade away.What Brian was meaning is that Adam can sing higher than Freddie night after night in a live situation, he wasn't comparing them as such and not from a recording point of view but he's right in the sense that Adam is vocally trained and knows how to look after his voice so he can sing like that without causing vocal strain where Freddie not being trained used to modulate down very often when singing live. As for Adam fading away - not a chance, he gets asked to do lots of stuff away from Queen because vocally he's consistent, has great work ethic, is good to work with, professional and well respected. There can be more than one person in the world who's good, we all know Freddie was amazing and will always be a legend but it's 27 years now and it's unfair to think everyone has to live under his shadow forever more. |
| Star* 15.02.2019 07:38 |
Vocal Harmony Brian was not approachable at the recent Bafta awards he walked past some Queen fans and blanked them leaving Roger to deal with them. Brian is getting more up himself every year now because he is feeding of Freddie's genius and thinks he deserves the limelight. |
| philip storey 15.02.2019 09:56 |
I actually met Roger when the band were staying at a hotel I was working at filming the Breakthru video at a nearby railway track.He was nice and friendly and we talked about "Fun in Space".I also wrote to Brian in the 90's and received a beautiful photograph with a personel message and signed.But I now feel they forgetting the fans and are a bit up themselves and rather be in with fellow celebs. |
| Vocal harmony 15.02.2019 12:40 |
Clarity wrote: Vocal Harmony Brian was not approachable at the recent Bafta awards he walked past some Queen fans and blanked them leaving Roger to deal with them. Brian is getting more up himself every year now because he is feeding of Freddie's genius and thinks he deserves the limelight.Read my original post again. I explained that Brian was with his wife and probably didn't want to make her feel like an extra while he played a starring role signing autographs and talking to Queen fans. . . Also getting to meet idols and getting autographs is not a devine right, people, even rock stars, should be allowed to be who they wish to be. Brian and Roger remain much more willing and approached then Freddie ever was. Don't take that as a criticism of Freddie, but he would usually say a very quick hello and be gone If as you believe Brian thinks he deserves the limelight why didn't he play on that at the BAFTA red carpet and swan about and over egg the occasion and make himself the centre of attention. |
| bucsateflon 15.02.2019 14:10 |
Clarity wrote: Yes Brian in my opinion has became very arrogant to the point that he forgets it was us the ardent Queen fans of the last 30 years that made him rich and he conveniently forgets that. Adam is a complete joke for Queen although on his own he would do well. No one fits Queen other that Freddie because Queen was his creation alone. Freddie had the vision and the determination to make the band work. I have often done what you have done Philip by watching ten minutes of Freddie then Adam and i immediately see Queen now look ridiculous and lost and Adam has made Queen look trashy and a total dogs dinner. What the hell people see in this weird combo i just do not know, the world has gone mad. Freddie is still the king of Queen.you're just a Freddie fanboy, just as worse as Adam Lambert fanboys. |
| snifflese 15.02.2019 14:36 |
Ok, Icy, the post by Clarity proves my point about Queen fans who think it is ALL about Freddie. Per Clarity, "No one fits Queen other than Freddie because Queen was his creation alone." I am always amazed when die hards say that. I guess they are forgetting Freddie's solo venture, which wasn't all that successful? There was just something about the 4 men together that made it work. Take one of them out of the mix (maybe you could remove John, because somehow he doesn't seem as integral to me), but they would never be the same w/o Brian or Roger. They composed together and worked out songs together and were stellar writers and musicians. I just don't believe it all Freddie's work, but some people do and there are more than one might think. Remarks like this is why I have the perception that the band was basically all about Freddie. |
| matt z 15.02.2019 14:48 |
snifflese wrote: "... You can hop over to the Freddie threads and do all the ass kissing that you like there. It is not needed here on the QAL threadTHE IDIOCY! The BLASPHEMY! It's ALL the "Freddie Section" He IS and was INSEPARABLE from QUEEN. This is essentially the house that Freddie built. Would've been a Smile forum without it. #2) Why, the ENTIRE PREMISE OF THIS THREAD is another VERSUS *COMPARISON* A *COMPARISON* if people don't like the chub dude being criticised for his unappealing unRockiness... then DON'T FUCKING BRING IT UP! It's absolutely nuts. Cheesus, Man. ....i mean, Good God what the hell r y'all smoking? |
| snifflese 15.02.2019 16:33 |
I am sick of being criticized because QAL and ADAM, the A part, is discussed here. You "people" (I guess that is what you are, but sometimes I wonder) take such offense at anything positive that is said about the collaboration. My point is that if Freddie is all you wish to discuss (since there doesn't seem to be that much about the other members on this site), there are plenty of places to do it besides right here. Of course there will be comparisons because every time someone makes a remark about Adam, you drag Freddie into it and constantly state how wonderful he is and how much Adam sucks. If you don't like it, then don't compare the two. If you are too dense to understand that concept, not my problem. |
| Star* 15.02.2019 17:04 |
Sniflese Get real your on a Queen fan site what do you think we were all going to discuss the price of tampons? If you want to read nice things about your incompetent karaoke loser then get on to a AL site and wind your neck in. |
| philip storey 15.02.2019 17:28 |
I went to see Queen with Adam at the awful Barclaycard Arena in Birmingham right in the middle of Birmingham,a real bitch to get to.In the run up to the show I told a few people I was going to see Queen,they all looked puzzled, "but Freddies dead". So I replied oh they have a guest singer his name is Adam Lambert,they all looked at me and said "who's he?" I said oh he came second in an American talent show,no one seemed to have a clue who he was.He is known in the states but virtually unknown in the uk ,except for Queen fans who are split down the middle if he is good or not.Also this site is called Queenzone not Queen plus Adam Lambert zone. |
| snifflese 15.02.2019 17:38 |
What is it that you people don't get about the site being divided into many different threads? This one small area is for QAL and there are a huge number of threads for all other Queen related things. I am just not sure why that is so difficult for some of you to fathom. Queen is in a different phase of its history right now and it is QAL which is allowed to be discussed here. I don't think many people who like Adam are out discussing in the old Queen centric threads, If it upsets you to see Adam mentioned, go to those areas that don't bring up his name. It is very simple, really. Some of us with differing viewpoints can discuss nicely, but with some of you it is impossible since you get so ugly and vindictive. |
| Vocal harmony 15.02.2019 18:05 |
philip storey wrote: . . . . .Also this site is called Queenzone not Queen plus Adam Lambert zone.Well you're the person who started this thread about Adam Lambert. It seems a bit strange having started a topic you're now complaining about it. As people have pointed out before, this is the Q+AL section. Just as Queen on line has a Queen+AL section. It's part of what the band are currently about. If you're so concerned about the current live line up in the way that you are, why do you bother posting about it. Why not set up your own Queen site which only allows discussion about the original band, you can ban people from talking about anyone other than Freddie, Brian , Roger and John. One other thing, what didn't you like about The Barclay Card Arena in Birmingham, I've always thought of it as a good city centre venue. |
| rockchic65 15.02.2019 18:07 |
philip storey wrote: I went to see Queen with Adam at the awful Barclaycard Arena in Birmingham right in the middle of Birmingham,a real bitch to get to.In the run up to the show I told a few people I was going to see Queen,they all looked puzzled, "but Freddies dead". So I replied oh they have a guest singer his name is Adam Lambert,they all looked at me and said "who's he?" I said oh he came second in an American talent show,no one seemed to have a clue who he was.He is known in the states but virtually unknown in the uk ,except for Queen fans who are split down the middle if he is good or not.Also this site is called Queenzone not Queen plus Adam Lambert zone.He can't be so unknown over here or no one would go to his solo shows and that's not the case but he is more known in the USA for obvious reasons and he's a lot more known in various European countries and places like Australia and China. End of the day I can't see what difference it makes, people who love Queen either like the shows or they don't and go or not accordingly. They sell out pretty much everywhere so there's enough of a demand to make it worthwhile. And seriously how many times does it need saying that while the site may be called Queenzone this particular part is Queen + Adam and therefore will have things about Adam posted in it. What's so difficult about ignoring this part of the site for people who aren't on board with the QAL thing, plenty other parts of the site to post in. |
| rockchic65 15.02.2019 18:12 |
matt z wrote: #2) Why, the ENTIRE PREMISE OF THIS THREAD is another VERSUS *COMPARISON* A *COMPARISON* if people don't like the chub dude being criticised for his unappealing unRockiness... then DON'T FUCKING BRING IT UP! It's absolutely nuts. Cheesus, Man. ....i mean, Good God what the hell r y'all smoking?In case you didn't notice the one starting this unnecessary thread was philip storey who doesn't like Adam and started the thread just to call him, we would gladly do without the comparisons but it ain't gonna happen while you have people who love to start arguments. |
| matt z 15.02.2019 18:14 |
Nope i don't notice many except the ones who done on needlessly about Adam. And i stay out of those unless having an opinion on a matter. This however was a TOPIC about exactly such a thing. Comparing Freddie and Adam. Whoever started it, it's in the correct forum and it's legit |
| rockchic65 15.02.2019 18:17 |
matt z wrote: Nope i don't notice many except the ones who done on needlessly about Adam. And i stay out of those unless having an opinion on a matter. This however was a TOPIC about exactly such a thing. Comparing Freddie and Adam. Whoever started it, it's in the correct forum and it's legitIt's in the correct forum but designed to cause arguments and you seemed to be saying "why compare if you don't want people calling him, implying it was one of Adam's fans that had started the thread as an opportunity to compare, or at least that's how I read your comment - sorry if I misunderstood what you were getting at. |
| snifflese 15.02.2019 19:52 |
By the way everything is NOT the Freddie section. There were three others who sang with him and now there is QAL. Some places are more appropriate for certain comments and obsessive posting. As I said, I don't go into the Queen only sections as I am sure it wouldn't be pleasant nor would I want to. I have at least enough sense to stay out of most areas on Queenzone. People who hate Adam could show the same consideration and if they do have a dissenting opinion, it doesn't have to be so nasty and contentious. Not everyone likes the same thing and I am perfectly fine with that. But most people on here don't respect my view point, which is a big problem. |
| philip storey 15.02.2019 20:43 |
I am not keen on the Barclaycard arena as its right in the middle of Birmingham,we went on a Saturday and the traffic was very bad.I prefer the NEC genting arena as its on the outskirts of Birmingham and has better views and facilites for wheelchair users.My favourite arena is at Leeds the seating and views are amazing.My days of going to concerts is over now as I am waiting for several operations on my knees and ankles.But do you know I still dream of going to Knebworth and enjoying the best day of my life and also Milton Keynes.Those of you who enjoy Queen with Adam I hope you enjoy the concerts as much as I did with Freddie.I didn't mean to stir things up so much,just a bit of fun really.Good night ,god bless ,you bunc of tarts ! |
| SweetCaroline 15.02.2019 20:58 |
philip storey, you are one lucky guy that you were an eyewitness to musical history at Knebworth and Milton Keynes. We are happy Brian and Roger still want to share their iconic music with the world. Best of luck and Godspeed to you in any future surgeries! |
| snifflese 16.02.2019 00:46 |
I wish you well, too! I know how you feel although I can get around alright, just painfully! I have had two hip replacements in under 2 years and am scheduled for a totally unstable left knee replacement in April. I just had my first of 3 gel injections into the right knee so that I will be able to go through rehab once the left knee is replaced. If it doesn't work, I am screwed! I will say that after just one injection it does feel better so I am hoping. I have terrible bones and they are all going at the same time. It isn't fun when you can't get around. Stairs are awful and we have two sets in our house. I count the number of times I go up and down. I can very well imagine what you are feeling and I hope it all turns out well and you will be able to once again get around under your own power! You know, everyone likes what they like. You are in England and Freddie was your guy, so it makes sense that you like him the very best. I have always loved Queen but being here in the US and stationed all over with the military, I didn't follow them, other than buy their music. There were no youtubes or TV or anything to involve yourself with the band. So my investment in Freddie and Queen is going to be way less than you, Philip. I saw Adam on Idol when I was down caring for my Dad in another state. I did have a lot of time on my hands and was getting used to the internet and Itunes and lots of new things for me. From the get go something resonated with Adam. I loved his voice (high tenor voices that sing classically are my thing) and he seemed like such a nice intelligent young man who was sweet to his mom and family. He also reminded me of my first crush, Elvis!! I have followed him ever since. I see him once on every tour, both his own and QAL. So I am not a super crazy fan, but I do love his voice and have a soft spot in my heart for him. It may tie in to the time I spent at Dad's while watching him, not really sure why. I think some of his own songs are quite good, some not so much, as he could do a lot more with that voice. Queen's music allows him to really go for it when singing and I love that. I hope his new music will be more natural, no EDM and surplus noise over his vocals and just more Queen like. His voice just speaks to me for whatever reason just like Freddie speaks to you. I have no problem with folks who can't stand Adam. I just hate it when such ugly things are said about him as I think he doesn't deserve it. He seems like a lovely young man who has a hard road to walk sometimes with all the hate thrown his way. I do think he has one of the best voices around nowadays. That is my story!! It is a shame Adam is not a songwriter, because nowadays singers only gain cred when they write their own music. Doesn't seem to matter if their voices are horrendous, which I honestly don't get! |
| Star* 16.02.2019 10:13 |
Philip Storey : You have nothing to apologise for because your views are just that "your views" Many millions of Queen fans already know Adam Lambert is nowhere as brilliant as Freddie Mercury and the very few Lambert fans that clog up Queenzone are in the minority so do not worry about that. Queenzone members are not stupid we all know Lambert is a total embarrassment and a tool and Queen does not exist anymore the name is merely used to get bums on seats. Four talented men made up Queen (the whole band) 2 Men cannot be called Queen because that is as false as saying Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr are still The Beatles. If you fall for this hype your pockets will be pretty empty soon. Nice to know you think Freddie is still amazing and Adam is still panto theatrical trash. |
| rockchic65 16.02.2019 11:49 |
Switch wrote: Philip Storey : You have nothing to apologise for because your views are just that "your views" Many millions of Queen fans already know Adam Lambert is nowhere as brilliant as Freddie Mercury and the very few Lambert fans that clog up Queenzone are in the minority so do not worry about that. Queenzone members are not stupid we all know Lambert is a total embarrassment and a tool and Queen does not exist anymore the name is merely used to get bums on seats. Four talented men made up Queen (the whole band) 2 Men cannot be called Queen because that is as false as saying Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr are still The Beatles. If you fall for this hype your pockets will be pretty empty soon. Nice to know you think Freddie is still amazing and Adam is still panto theatrical trash.Finally a fitting name for you since you've "switched" names about 10 times in the last month. The rest of your post aside from the part about "your views are just your views and no need to apologize" is the same BS as usual. |
| Star* 16.02.2019 12:35 |
Rockchic I will change my name as often as you wipe your arse so belt up. Adam is not everything like you think he is so you stop all your bullshit on here, its day in and day out get a life. Your on an official Queen site not a cheesy Adam site. |
| rockchic65 16.02.2019 13:08 |
Switch wrote: Rockchic I will change my name as often as you wipe your arse so belt up. Adam is not everything like you think he is so you stop all your bullshit on here, its day in and day out get a life. Your on an official Queen site not a cheesy Adam site.But I'm on the QAL part of that Queen site and I think Bri & Roger's opinion of Adam takes precedence over yours. Change your name as often as you like, I didn't say you shouldn't just remarked how fitting the latest one is. Does puzzle me why someone would want to keep changing usernames though but hey ho like you say it's up to you. |
| Vocal harmony 16.02.2019 13:17 |
Switch wrote: Rockchic I will change my name as often as you wipe your arse so belt up. Adam is not everything like you think he is so you stop all your bullshit on here, its day in and day out get a life. Your on an official Queen site not a cheesy Adam site.You're on here so why shouldn't anyone else be here too. As for "your on an official Queen site". No we're not it has no affiliation with Queen or their record company. It's not an official site, if that's what your looking for go to Queen on line but don't expect the freedom of views there that you have here. Official site or not this is the Queen+AL section. The clue is AL so that is the subject posted here. It's quite simple if you don't like Queen + AL don't bother visiting this section, don't keep drawing comparisons because that just gets people talking about something you don't like. You made your views clear some years back we know what you think you don't have to keep repeating yourself. You keep saying people are entitled to their opinions, that's true we all are but if those opinions don't match your own it doesn't make them less valid |
| Star* 16.02.2019 14:09 |
VH Sorry but that reply is trash. This web site was purely created for lovers of Queen Freddie Brian Roger & John. Adam Lambert fans gatecrashed the site because an AL section of the web site never existed before and have no right to nest here on this web site. Men rule this Queenzone site and you 3 to 4 silly woman need to move on like gypsies who are not welcome - GO...... |
| rockchic65 16.02.2019 14:35 |
Switch wrote: VH Sorry but that reply is trash. This web site was purely created for lovers of Queen Freddie Brian Roger & John. Adam Lambert fans gatecrashed the site because an AL section of the web site never existed before and have no right to nest here on this web site. Men rule this Queenzone site and you 3 to 4 silly woman need to move on like gypsies who are not welcome - GO......Haha don't know whether to laugh or feel sorry for you with all your posturing and still it gets you nowhere. For the forseeable Adam is with Queen (or what's left of them) so the section is here to stay and so are we and as VH pointed out if you don't like QAL don't bother reading or posting here, it's quite simple really. Oh and your men rule comment - what about all the guys who like QAL? |
| Star* 16.02.2019 15:16 |
Rockchic No guys on here who like Adam so once again your comment is unjustified. |
| snifflese 16.02.2019 15:57 |
You are a very small, tiny, miniscule minority, so we will just ignore and sweep you under the rug. I guess we should just never reply and that would be no fun for you and then maybe you would get the heck of out Dodge Good riddance! You give men a bad name and I don't think you can be included in that category. Real men aren't internet wussies who write crap on the internet. I am sure you are a little pip squeak in real life The only ones you take on are the women who are doing a great job of corralling you. Let's ignore the losers and see how that works out! |
| SweetCaroline 16.02.2019 16:53 |
If Freddie were still alive and Brian and Roger chose to tour with Adam instead, I could understand the angst and hatred. Since he is not alive for over 27 years, it is dumb and ridiculous! |
| Iron Butterfly 16.02.2019 18:13 |
SweetCaroline wrote: If Freddie were still alive and Brian and Roger chose to tour with Adam instead, I could understand the angst and hatred. Since he is not alive for over 27 years, it is dumb and ridiculous!So because Freddie is no longer here, that makes everything ok? I dont think you realize what a shock and sadness it was for Queen fans when Freddie passed away. I've talked to many Queen fans through the years who couldn't believe he passed away for a while. 27 years without Freddie being here, and I can be assured his legacy is still living on. His life, his music, and his courage is still pretty inspirational. I don't think you even realize that since you think AL is the best thing for Queen in the years since Freddie passed away. |
| Iron Butterfly 16.02.2019 18:15 |
philip storey wrote: I am not keen on the Barclaycard arena as its right in the middle of Birmingham,we went on a Saturday and the traffic was very bad.I prefer the NEC genting arena as its on the outskirts of Birmingham and has better views and facilites for wheelchair users.My favourite arena is at Leeds the seating and views are amazing.My days of going to concerts is over now as I am waiting for several operations on my knees and ankles.But do you know I still dream of going to Knebworth and enjoying the best day of my life and also Milton Keynes.Those of you who enjoy Queen with Adam I hope you enjoy the concerts as much as I did with Freddie.I didn't mean to stir things up so much,just a bit of fun really.Good night ,god bless ,you bunc of tarts !Just to say, I know you weren't trying to stir the pot. I hope your operations and your recovery will go well for you, take care. |
| Star* 16.02.2019 18:49 |
SNIFLESE The pip squeak and the wuss been Adam Lambert because he can not survive and make a decent career without Queen . You are such a sad woman idolising this nobody when there is better and bigger musical entertainers around. You and the other three losers on the AL thread have attracted no more AL supporters in the last six months on Queenzone, because he has none. Many Queenzone people come on here for Queen the original band not the garbage that is Queen+ freak. Lets sweep you and all your loony AL worshippers under the carpet eh? |
| snifflese 16.02.2019 19:39 |
There are not many people who have the tenacity to put up with you jerks! Lat time I will reply to you! |
| snifflese 16.02.2019 19:42 |
Icy, not trying to be mean or a jerk, but I don't get how someone is still so affected by an event that happened to someone they never knew that many years ago? If that were a friend, I would say, time to get over it and move on. The music lives on, people love it and QAL is a new manifestation of Queen. Living in the past is never a good thing. Doesn't mean you can't love Freddie, but feeling his music should never be played by anyone ever again seems a little much. YMMV! |
| Star* 16.02.2019 20:10 |
Sniflese You seem to have trouble in answering my questions because you know i talk the truth. No new Lambert fans on here for at least the last year so that must say something of his popularity on Queenzone alone. You say we should not live in the past but that is entirely how Adam makes his living from the past from Queens music. He is not clever enough to write his own material and have massive success with it like Freddie did. Adam is a cheap Z-lister in the music industry and behind all those freaky clothes is a guy who is basically nothing without Queen music to give him that massive boost. Your still not justified to look down your nose at us Queen fans because Queen made Adam who he is. |
| snifflese 16.02.2019 20:21 |
Most people are not going to put up with jerks or nastiness. What is the point if posters have to endure being called vile names and seeing how someone they enjoy as an artist is always vilified. Queen has moved on from the original and is now QAL. They have made the band into something different from what it once was (you people always say it is not the same!) He most definitely doesn't write music, but a lot of people don't. He is a tremendous singer, that is his instrument and strength. That is enough for me. He has plenty of things going on and would have found more, if he hadn't been working with Queen. He will always have a great career even without Queen. There are plenty of things that don't involve touring with Queen. He doesn't wear freaky clothes, just some costumes for the show. Freddie's were actually freakier. Adam is always on the list of the top red carpet looks. He is extremely fashion forward. I can look down my nose at anyone who is rude. Has nothing to do with Queen. |
| Star* 16.02.2019 20:31 |
Sniflese So at last were getting down to the truth that you think Freddie wore freaky clothes? You also think Adam would also be offered greater things had he not been approached by Brian May, well you are deranged thinking that. Adam had not been on the world stages had it not been for Queen and it is Queen that has promoted him for the past ten years without that Adam would be working 9 to 5 somewhere quite boring. We know you give Freddie very little regard and you think Adam is better well that is your belief but millions upon millions will tell you different lady. |
| snifflese 16.02.2019 21:25 |
Some of Freddie's fashions in concerts were out there. I have no problem with that, freaky wild clothes are part of a show!! But you people always bring up Adam's costumes and his are not quite as extreme. It seems to be your problem, not mine. Have no clue what Freddie regularly wore, but Adam's are very fashion forward. He always dresses pretty nicely when I see photographs of him. Concert clothes are not normal attire!! Adam doesn't need to be on world stages. I didn't say that he would have been offered GREATER things than singing with Queen. I doubt anything will top that. I said great things will come his way, meaning nice, good. Adam would have a career w/o Queen. He toured and earned millions before he hooked up with Queen. He has been on a TV show, doing a movie this year and could sing anywhere in the world. Might not be Queen level, but he would be working and singing. I still think he will wind up with a Broadway show, maybe written for him, since he apparently has had offers. Nope, he wouldn't be working a 9-5 job. Spending as much time with Queen means he puts a lot of things on the back burner, doesn't mean they aren't there. I totally disagree on this one! I think Freddie was amazing and there will never be another like him. He has had a profound influence on music. But he doesn't fit into the soft spot in my heart, that is where Adam resides. I just love his voice, no matter what he sings. I love him singing with Queen, doesn't mean I can't also love the original. Millions and millions and millions have seen QAL and almost everyone loves it. You can love two different sides of the coin. I am not one of those all or nothing people. None of what you are saying about me has any truth to it. See, just assuming things and getting them all wrong! |
| SweetCaroline 16.02.2019 22:53 |
Freaky clothes like these? link |
| Iron Butterfly 16.02.2019 22:58 |
snifflese wrote: Icy, not trying to be mean or a jerk, but I don't get how someone is still so affected by an event that happened to someone they never knew that many years ago? If that were a friend, I would say, time to get over it and move on. The music lives on, people love it and QAL is a new manifestation of Queen. Living in the past is never a good thing. Doesn't mean you can't love Freddie, but feeling his music should never be played by anyone ever again seems a little much. YMMV!I wasn't a Freddie fan or a Queen fan before Freddie passed away. That doesn't mean I can't miss what he gave to the world. His talent, creativity and courage means allot to me. You think that's affects me, yes it does but not in the way you think. No, Q+AL isn't a new manifestation of Queen. Nothing ever could be that way for me. Queen was and always will be Freddie, Brian Roger and John for me. I have never said Freddie's or Queen's music should never be played again by the way. |
| Iron Butterfly 16.02.2019 23:01 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Freaky clothes like these? link---------- Since when is white shorts freaky?? You recently posted a link to a pic of AL wearing little clothes which looked to be only shorts to 'prove' AL is a guy in a recent thread. Freddie wearing white shorts is apparently freaky for you. Why? I'm actually going to bump that post of yours from not long ago. Why did you post a pic of AL wearing shorts and then you turn around to say Freddie wearing what he did in the above pic was somehow freaky? There is no difference of what they wore. You try to say Freddie wearing shorts was "freaky" and not long after you posted a pic of AL wearing shorts to prove he was a guy. What is your issues about Freddie wearing shorts? Especially since you obviously have no issue about AL wearing shorts. You go for tit for tat versus Freddie and AL. Sometimes it makes you look like a hypocrite and you do things to big up AL at the expense of trying to make Freddie look bad. Seriously, just stop with this sort of thing. |
| Iron Butterfly 16.02.2019 23:12 |
snifflese wrote: There are not many people who have the tenacity to put up with you jerks! Lat time I will reply to you!Which jerks? |
| Vocal harmony 17.02.2019 00:03 |
Switch wrote: Rockchic No guys on here who like Adam so once again your comment is unjustified.You're wrong, but hey you know best. |
| snifflese 17.02.2019 00:24 |
Switched, runner, the usual suspects!! I do have a question tho, Icy. If you don't have a problem with others singing Queen, why does Adam bother you so much? It sure seems like you don't like him doing that, so I assumed that applied to others. Although you didn't mind Nate, Gaga, GM singing one offs. Is it just Adam or who would be OK to sing as a plus one in the very same way they are touring now? |
| SweetCaroline 17.02.2019 00:52 |
It’s only Adam that bothers these guys because he is so good and has performed with them more than anyone else since Freddie! Adam has never performed with them completely topless, in short short short white shorts or in a geometric onesie jumpsuit with ballet slippers. |
| Iron Butterfly 17.02.2019 01:19 |
SweetCaroline wrote: It’s only Adam that bothers these guys because he is so good and has performed with them more than anyone else since Freddie! Adam has never performed with them completely topless, in short short short white shorts or in a geometric onesie jumpsuit with ballet slippers.Oh dear. AL has been topless, in fact that recent pic you linked to at the gym looks as if he was wearing no top. But because he didn't perform topless and Freddie did, that is what bothers you, plus the onesie jump suit with ballet slippers somehow bothers you? But why? Why do you hold that against Freddie? Is that you are hoping to make AL seem the better person and performer because he didn't wear short shorts, onesies, ballet slippers onstage? Thing is, I'm pretty sure if AL did wear short shorts, went bare chested during concerts, you would likely love it. Cause you love what AL wears and you gripe about what Freddie wore. Come on, sweetcaroline. You are looking silly and a hypocrite right now. |
| Iron Butterfly 17.02.2019 01:32 |
snifflese wrote: Switched, runner, the usual suspects!! I do have a question tho, Icy. If you don't have a problem with others singing Queen, why does Adam bother you so much? It sure seems like you don't like him doing that, so I assumed that applied to others. Although you didn't mind Nate, Gaga, GM singing one offs. Is it just Adam or who would be OK to sing as a plus one in the very same way they are touring now?I'm not sure if being bothered is the right way to put it, but if you really want to know how I feel about some things here you go ( sorry for repeating myself but you asked ;-) ) As I've stated before, I think Q+AL shows could be much better if they dug deeper in the catalogue, the gimmicks were not so tacky, and more of Freddie and John were shown. If I saw Jon Bon Jovi or Bon Jovi cover Queen, I wouldn't like that at all to be blunt. I was shocked when Brian and Roger performed with them in 1994 playing Bon Jovi songs. Brian and Roger playing with Bon Jovi was awful I thought. Hated it then, hate it now. I also hate the Pepsi advert Brian and Roger did with Beyonce, Pink and Britney from a few years back. I think they sold out by doing that. And I actually like some of Beyonce's, Pinks and Britney's music...but that advert was awful. I hate that Brian and Roger performied with Bon Jovi and the Pepsi advert more than you think I hate AL ;-). Again, I don't hate AL. I'm no Glambert by any means, but I don't hate the guy either. Let's not go down that route again, please. |
| Star* 17.02.2019 08:55 |
Sadly you Glambert's can not see that if you strip away Brian and Roger plus the high tech lighting and all the wonderful Queen music what is Adam left with to showcase himself? Answer sweet f.a ! He becomes a nobody because he has not got an original brilliant back catalogue of music to perform of his own as he can only steel other artists songs to make him look good. So think again when Mr/Mrs Lambert performs on stage as it is all fancy gimmicks to make him look better than he really is. Freddie performed at "Live Aid" no lighting gimmicks , nothing to make him look good and he still stole the show performing to the planet, and that is why he is known as "The greatest showman ever" |
| Vocal harmony 17.02.2019 14:56 |
Switch wrote: Sadly you Glambert's can not see that if you strip away Brian and Roger plus the high tech lighting and all the wonderful Queen music what is Adam left with to showcase himself? Answer sweet f.a ! . . . . . . . . Freddie performed at "Live Aid" no lighting gimmicks , nothing to make him look good and he still stole the show performing to the planet, and that is why he is known as "The greatest showman ever"Actually there was a lot of lighting at Live Aid ,mused through out the show. But anyway at Live Aid, take away the lights,nthe PA the band's backline, Brian, Roger and John and the songs what would Freddie be left with. . . . That's right sweet FA It doesn't matter who's singing the same rules apply. |
| snifflese 17.02.2019 15:07 |
Adam sang recently at a live personal event. He sang an operatic aria with no no backing, no gimmicks, nothing and it was beyond sublime. He sang "Believe" at the Kennedy Center Honors TV show with little musical backing and he was front and center with just his voice. Twitter went wild. Adam's talent is his voice, so he doesn't need gimmicks. However, a QAL production is an event, a crazy over the top spectacular event. It has all the bells and whistles because that is how they perform. He, however, doesn't need it to sound wonderful. Take it up with Brian and Roger if you don't care for all the pomp and circumstance!! I have heard Adam sing with little of that many times in youtubes, etc, and he always sounds wonderful. Just because someone doesn't write the music does not mean they cannot perform beautifully. Covers are done millions of times around the world every month and some are performed better than the original artist. There is no stealing. That is an absolutely ridiculous idea. Singers incorporate other people's music into their own all the time. It doesn't make them any less worthy as a singer or performer. I would personally prefer anyone to sing a Taylor Swift song other than her. Just writing a song doesn't mean you sing it well. If Freddie isn't here, the music goes on with someone else singing. Brian and Roger have made their choice and millions of happy fans have let them know that they are thrilled with Adam and QAL. If it doesn't work for you, so be it, but you are in the minority. |
| snifflese 17.02.2019 15:09 |
No, I am not going down that route. I am just curious. You didn't exactly answer the question. Would you prefer that Brian and Roger not tour with anyone, Adam included, or is there someone you think should be touring with them? If you feel there should be no tour with anyone, not a problem, but was wondering if any singer would meet the mark for you. |
| SweetCaroline 17.02.2019 16:15 |
I haven’t listened to it yet but there has been PR this past week about Kelly Clarkson’s beautiful performance of “Shallow,” the Oscar nominated song. Is it okay for her to cover such a recent song and then wrong for Adam to cover Queen songs from the ‘70’s? |
| Star* 17.02.2019 19:53 |
Vocal Harmony : You are talking utter crap again. There was very little lighting at Live Aid and Freddie stole the show. Even if the other three were not there Mercury would still be massive because he was the band the spirit and the brains in Queen. Lambert remains a false and fake artist if you strip him of all what is around him and he wont be able to dig himself out of the rut he will soon be in when Queen call it a day and it wont be long now. |
| Iron Butterfly 17.02.2019 20:39 |
snifflese wrote: No, I am not going down that route. I am just curious. You didn't exactly answer the question. Would you prefer that Brian and Roger not tour with anyone, Adam included, or is there someone you think should be touring with them? If you feel there should be no tour with anyone, not a problem, but was wondering if any singer would meet the mark for you.Such as the Freddie Tribute which I think was beautifully done for the most part. But that didn't get press as those artists as the new singer for Queen, filling Freddie's shoes the way AL has had. Even AL says he is a guest, but I know many Glamberts think AL is the new singer for Queen and has replaced Freddie. I don't think that way at all. I never thought PR replaced Freddie either by the way. Queen anthologies have been dangled for Queen fans for years now. I'd love it if Brian and Roger put the time and effort into getting that out there instead of touring with AL to be honest. Both Brian and Roger have had things to say about reality type shows. I do find it hypocritical that they have toured with AL after that. I'm an INXS fan as well, I was shocked when the band members went on TV looking for a new singer. And some of us know how that worked out. I do think there are many better singers than AL out there. George Michael was rumored to tour with Brian and Roger, but at that time I felt it was too soon after Freddie ndied. Then Brian and Roger worked on their solo music, and MIH. Which I would have been happy if that ended Brian's and Roger's career. Q+PR happened I never would have expected that, and despite a few qualms I had about that, it was pretty good I thought. That ended and a few years later Q+AL started to tour. Brian and Roger have hyped AL up to the extreme to say the least. Honestly, some things didn't sit well for me from the get go, and it likely never will. I do hope the next tour will be more about the music and less about the gimmicks, and I'd love it if Freddie and John were shown more. Queen were four people to me, and sorry, not sorry, I don't include AL in that. |
| Iron Butterfly 17.02.2019 20:40 |
snifflese wrote: No, I am not going down that route. I am just curious. You didn't exactly answer the question. Would you prefer that Brian and Roger not tour with anyone, Adam included, or is there someone you think should be touring with them? If you feel there should be no tour with anyone, not a problem, but was wondering if any singer would meet the mark for you.Such as the Freddie Tribute which I think was beautifully done for the most part. But that didn't get press as those artists as the new singer for Queen, filling Freddie's shoes the way AL has had. Even AL says he is a guest, but I know many Glamberts think AL is the new singer for Queen and has replaced Freddie. I don't think that way at all. I never thought PR replaced Freddie either by the way. Queen anthologies have been dangled for Queen fans for years now. I'd love it if Brian and Roger put the time and effort into getting that out there instead of touring with AL to be honest. Both Brian and Roger have had things to say about reality type shows. I do find it hypocritical that they have toured with AL after that. I'm an INXS fan as well, I was shocked when the band members went on TV looking for a new singer. And some of us know how that worked out. I do think there are many better singers than AL out there. George Michael was rumored to tour with Brian and Roger, but at that time I felt it was too soon after Freddie ndied. Then Brian and Roger worked on their solo music, and MIH. Which I would have been happy if that ended Brian's and Roger's career. Q+PR happened I never would have expected that, and despite a few qualms I had about that, it was pretty good I thought. That ended and a few years later Q+AL started to tour. Brian and Roger have hyped AL up to the extreme to say the least. Honestly, some things didn't sit well for me from the get go, and it likely never will. I do hope the next tour will be more about the music and less about the gimmicks, and I'd love it if Freddie and John were shown more. Queen were four people to me, and sorry, not sorry, I don't include AL in that. |
| SweetCaroline 17.02.2019 20:41 |
Yes, like I said before, Freddie was always the whole show. I’m glad Adam has toned it down a bit and hopefully will live longer that way. |
| snifflese 17.02.2019 21:21 |
I mostly understand how you feel. I just think the criticism about the reality show doesn't make any sense for me. Adam had worked in the singing and entertainment world for almost around 9 years prior to going on Idol. He wasn't some unformed lump of clay and he blossomed on the show. One can have an opinion and change their minds. Adam was that good that Brian and Roger realized you can find a gem in a talent show such as AI. I don't understand people who never change their minds. I change my mind often based on new data that I receive. There are always things a person needs to reevaluate and in my mind, that is a very positive thing. My kids would have had a tough time growing up if I didn't grow with the times and change my mind occasionally! One of my favorite things to say is, "Never say never, It will come back to bite you in the butt!" |
| Iron Butterfly 17.02.2019 21:22 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Yes, like I said before, Freddie was always the whole show. I’m glad Adam has toned it down a bit and hopefully will live longer that way.You seem bitter about Freddie for some reasons. What he wore, that he was the whole show...dunno why that causes you so much bitterness. Maybe it gets to you that people still respect and admire the guy. His and Queen's legacy is in no danger of disappearing any time soon. By the way, things can happen at anytime to anyone. We both know that. Freddie toned things down in his last years, but he died of an awful illness. Even reading about how sick he was before he passed away, is heartbreaking. |
| Iron Butterfly 17.02.2019 23:36 |
snifflese wrote: I mostly understand how you feel. I just think the criticism about the reality show doesn't make any sense for me. Adam had worked in the singing and entertainment world for almost around 9 years prior to going on Idol. He wasn't some unformed lump of clay and he blossomed on the show. One can have an opinion and change their minds. Adam was that good that Brian and Roger realized you can find a gem in a talent show such as AI. I don't understand people who never change their minds. I change my mind often based on new data that I receive. There are always things a person needs to reevaluate and in my mind, that is a very positive thing. My kids would have had a tough time growing up if I didn't grow with the times and change my mind occasionally! One of my favorite things to say is, "Never say never, It will come back to bite you in the butt!"Thanks for mostly understanding how I feel. I learned that AL worked before Idol, but idol was his big break. And I will always feel no one has done more for him than the Queen legacy. I've changed my mind about some things even regarding Queen music. I once loved the song One Year Of Love, but I can't tolerate it these days. Just an example as my mind can change even about Queen ;-). I truly never would have expected Brian and Roger to ever become involved with Idol, especially after what they had to say about things about things like Idol. Plus after PR, I never expected them to ever tour again. So it was a shock in many ways when Q+AL started to tour. I never expected it to last this long to be honest. So I have to eat my hat on that score. I like quite a bit of Brian's and Roger's solo music. I'm glad they never completely abandoned that. I do wish they could work on the the Queen music that may be left in the vaults, it's what I hope for the most. I love Rainbow, I love how raw and promising the guys were at that time. I don't know if any Glamberts here have seen it, but I would recommend it. Queen were a truly amazing band in many ways. |
| Star* 18.02.2019 12:00 |
Brian & Roger are the two biggest hypocrites in Queen. They cursed all talent shows like American Idol and Xfactor and so did Elton John, next minute they appear on those shows, and pick up an contestant Adam Lambert. Roger said he hated touring so got four guys Called "The Queen Experience" to tour for him as Queen. Now today Taylor never says he hates touring anymore. Brian recorded with druggy rap idiot Dappy, and recorded a single with "FIVE" boy band and has made ads with Britney, Pink Beyonce, May has made some drastic terrible mistakes since Freddie died, and his biggest mistake to date is letting Adam Lambert destroy Queen. |
| rockchic65 18.02.2019 13:27 |
Switch wrote: Brian & Roger are the two biggest hypocrites in Queen. They cursed all talent shows like American Idol and Xfactor and so did Elton John, next minute they appear on those shows, and pick up an contestant Adam Lambert. Roger said he hated touring so got four guys Called "The Queen Experience" to tour for him as Queen. Now today Taylor never says he hates touring anymore. Brian recorded with druggy rap idiot Dappy, and recorded a single with "FIVE" boy band and has made ads with Britney, Pink Beyonce, May has made some drastic terrible mistakes since Freddie died, and his biggest mistake to date is letting Adam Lambert destroy Queen.They cursed talent shows since there was very little actual talent on them but they aren't too stupid to change their mind if they actually find someone who should never have needed to be on the show in the first place. Maybe Roger loves touring now because they have a lot of fun and a lot of the time Sarina goes with him as do some of his kids so it's probably not as lonely as it maybe was in the past. People do change their minds about things sometimes, it's called being open minded and open to change, you should try it sometime. |
| Iron Butterfly 18.02.2019 14:15 |
rockchic65 wrote:They changed their minds about Idol type shows before AL ever hit the Idol stage. Brian and Roger appeared on Canadian Idol in 2007, seemed to enjoy themselves actually. So it wasn't AL that changed their minds about those type of shows. But I do think it's at least slightly hypocritical that they had much to say about those type of shows, then appeared on it, then found someone to tour with that was found on the show.Switch wrote: Brian & Roger are the two biggest hypocrites in Queen. They cursed all talent shows like American Idol and Xfactor and so did Elton John, next minute they appear on those shows, and pick up an contestant Adam Lambert. Roger said he hated touring so got four guys Called "The Queen Experience" to tour for him as Queen. Now today Taylor never says he hates touring anymore. Brian recorded with druggy rap idiot Dappy, and recorded a single with "FIVE" boy band and has made ads with Britney, Pink Beyonce, May has made some drastic terrible mistakes since Freddie died, and his biggest mistake to date is letting Adam Lambert destroy Queen.They cursed talent shows since there was very little actual talent on them but they aren't too stupid to change their mind if they actually find someone who should never have needed to be on the show in the first place. Maybe Roger loves touring now because they have a lot of fun and a lot of the time Sarina goes with him as do some of his kids so it's probably not as lonely as it maybe was in the past. People do change their minds about things sometimes, it's called being open minded and open to change, you should try it sometime. Speak of touring, I kind of have concerns about Brian touring at times. I just hope he never becomes depressed again to the degree he was in the past. I hope he is enjoying a bit of break right now, though I'm sure he is busy with other things. |
| PrimeJiveUSA 18.02.2019 15:38 |
@Icy Just curious...what turned you sour on One Year of Love and why did you absolutely love it before. Personally, it's always been one of my all-time LEAST favorite Queen songs. I think it would have been a much better song if Freddie had taken a more subtle approach like he did on In Only Seven Days. |
| snifflese 18.02.2019 15:52 |
"So it wasn't AL that changed their minds about those shows." How do you always find a way to subtly diss Adam? I find it amazing how you do that!! |
| Star* 18.02.2019 18:16 |
It is very easy to diss Adam i do it in a second when i see him on tv because the tv set gets turned off, |
| SweetCaroline 18.02.2019 18:24 |
Switch, you will have to turn off your TV next Sunday because it has just been announced that they are playing at the Oscars: link |
| Iron Butterfly 18.02.2019 19:08 |
snifflese wrote: "So it wasn't AL that changed their minds about those shows." How do you always find a way to subtly diss Adam? I find it amazing how you do that!!How on earth are you taking that as a diss about AL? Obviously it wasn't him that changed Brian's and Roger's mind about those type of shows, that's a fact. They both appeared on it a couple of years before on Canadian Idol before they appeared on American Idol. The fact you think that is a diss about AL...I don't know why you feel that way about it. It wasn't and isn't meant as a diss at all. |
| Iron Butterfly 18.02.2019 19:14 |
PrimeJiveUSA wrote: @Icy Just curious...what turned you sour on One Year of Love and why did you absolutely love it before. Personally, it's always been one of my all-time LEAST favorite Queen songs. I think it would have been a much better song if Freddie had taken a more subtle approach like he did on In Only Seven Days.Simply put, there are so many better Queen songs as I found out as time went on. I guess my tastes changed. But honestly, it's the least powerful vocal I have ever heard Freddie sing, and the production and lyrics are just so... cheesey if you will. So typically 80s power ballad, and if Queen was ever typical, they were with OYOL. Less is more, and would have been better in this case, IMO. |
| Star* 18.02.2019 19:27 |
This is so so true ! |
| Iron Butterfly 18.02.2019 20:06 |
Very true. |
| PrimeJiveUSA 19.02.2019 03:22 |
Yes...but Roger and Brian performing together is the closest thing there is on earth to Queen...unless John decides to come out of retirement. We take what we can get with the little time there is left. |
| Star* 19.02.2019 07:34 |
PrimejiveUsa Sure we all love Brian & Roger playing the music, but to do it with somebody who was barely known and a novice working with a band as massive as Queen is a no no. I still feel offended that after the massive hugely mega talented Freddie it all deflates like a punctured bicycle tyre with Adam Lambert. Still the answer to the this thread : Freddie vs Adam the answer is Freddie is a billion times more clever and talented than Adam can even dream about. May & Taylor just used Lambert to be current and get the limelight again, quite a clever publicity stunt. |
| rockchic65 19.02.2019 10:19 |
NPOWER wrote: PrimejiveUsa Sure we all love Brian & Roger playing the music, but to do it with somebody who was barely known and a novice working with a band as massive as Queen is a no no. I still feel offended that after the massive hugely mega talented Freddie it all deflates like a punctured bicycle tyre with Adam Lambert. Still the answer to the this thread : Freddie vs Adam the answer is Freddie is a billion times more clever and talented than Adam can even dream about. May & Taylor just used Lambert to be current and get the limelight again, quite a clever publicity stunt.That "novice" was working in the industry from age 18, touring in theater productions and one seriously shitty job which 90% of people would have walked away from but he stuck it out because he's professional and has great work ethic, he did a 10 month 3/4 night in a row with one night off in between tour solo before teaming up with them and since then has managed to tour consistently both with them and solo for years without blowing out his voice so I'd say novice is not a word you can attribute to him. Brian has commented more than once that he's completely professional and dedicated to what he does and he's far from the only one. We get he's not for you but that doesn't mean he's not talented or that he doesn't work hard. Give it a rest and do something you do like, it's the same tired old argument and it holds no more water now than it ever has. |
| Star* 19.02.2019 16:32 |
Sorry but your post is not justified, the reason Lammies voice never blows out is because he is not a grafter on stage like Freddie was and he is not as energetic. He does little as possible as i have been watching some of his performances. Queen are nowhere as near as powerful now like they were in the 80s with Freddie. Sure Lamberk may be professional and dedicated but that does not make him right for Queen. He seems glued to Queen and will not fly away and get on with his own failing solo career so you saying he is just a guest is very unjustified because a guest would not hang around all these years with a band! |
| bucsateflon 19.02.2019 16:37 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Yes, like I said before, Freddie was always the whole show. .Is there a context I'm missing for this retarded statement you made, or you just went full retard cause you fell this way? |
| rockchic65 19.02.2019 18:54 |
NPOWER wrote: Sorry but your post is not justified, the reason Lammies voice never blows out is because he is not a grafter on stage like Freddie was and he is not as energetic. He does little as possible as i have been watching some of his performances. Queen are nowhere as near as powerful now like they were in the 80s with Freddie. Sure Lamberk may be professional and dedicated but that does not make him right for Queen. He seems glued to Queen and will not fly away and get on with his own failing solo career so you saying he is just a guest is very unjustified because a guest would not hang around all these years with a band!No the reason his voice doesn't blow out is he's a trained singer who knows how to use his voice without damaging it, that's why his singing appears so effortless even though it's anything but. He's a guest who was asked to sing with them, without him they wouldn't be able to tour so how would that be fair if he just dumped them and said "well thanks it's been great but I've better things to do now so see ya"? He is getting on with his own career alongside the collaboration, have you missed all the things he's been involved in and still is, the fact he's releasing a new album that he's spent around 18 months recording between touring in the next few months, the fact he'll likely be promoting and touring said album which is likely why they haven't announced any other shows than the Aug/Sept one's, he sees no reason it has to be an either or situation if he can do both. As to how he is on stage, he's nothing like Freddie and doesn't run around but people at the shows and the media all call him a showman, you may not see it but plenty do, there's more than one way to perform, not everyone can be a Freddie, Dave Grohl or Axl Rose, some people have a quieter energy and rely more on other ways of connecting. |
| Star* 19.02.2019 20:47 |
Sorry but Adam is not a showman, people use that word too easily these days. i would rate Adam as a theatrical singer but that is it. I cannot see past that and i cannot find anything amazing about him. i have tried to like him but he irritates me to the point of turning off the tv or hi fi. He is only equal to Tony Hadley as the singing voices are very similar. I think his new album with flop again, because he has no direction or image he is a mish mash of what he feels like doing on the day. This album will be make or break for him as he has to impress the new record label! Don't hold your breath. |
| philip storey 20.02.2019 16:21 |
Freddie was never the whole of the show ,Roger would have his Drum solo and Brian had and still does his fifteen minute Guitar solo.Some fans went for a hot dog when the solo's were done,but I found them interesting and it obviously gave Freddie time to recover for the second part of the show. |
| philip storey 20.02.2019 16:21 |
Freddie was never the whole of the show ,Roger would have his Drum solo and Brian had and still does his fifteen minute Guitar solo.Some fans went for a hot dog when the solo's were done,but I found them interesting and it obviously gave Freddie time to recover for the second part of the show. |
| philip storey 20.02.2019 16:21 |
Freddie was never the whole of the show ,Roger would have his Drum solo and Brian had and still does his fifteen minute Guitar solo.Some fans went for a hot dog when the solo's were done,but I found them interesting and it obviously gave Freddie time to recover for the second part of the show. |
| philip storey 20.02.2019 16:21 |
Freddie was never the whole of the show ,Roger would have his Drum solo and Brian had and still does his fifteen minute Guitar solo.Some fans went for a hot dog when the solo's were done,but I found them interesting and it obviously gave Freddie time to recover for the second part of the show. |
| philip storey 20.02.2019 16:22 |
Freddie was never the whole of the show ,Roger would have his Drum solo and Brian had and still does his fifteen minute Guitar solo.Some fans went for a hot dog when the solo's were done,but I found them interesting and it obviously gave Freddie time to recover for the second part of the show. |
| philip storey 20.02.2019 16:23 |
Sorry for that a glitch in the system. |
| bucsateflon 20.02.2019 16:33 |
philip storey wrote: Freddie was never the whole of the show ,Roger would have his Drum solo and Brian had and still does his fifteen minute Guitar solo.Some fans went for a hot dog when the solo's were done,but I found them interesting and it obviously gave Freddie time to recover for the second part of the show.A 10 minutes guitar solo is obligatory in a live rock show. |
| SweetCaroline 20.02.2019 17:50 |
Last night my son was here and I played Adam’s “Blue Suede Shoes” from the Elvis Special last Sunday. He had missed seeing it. He again compared Adam to a Lamborghini for his smooth, seamless performance and he still thinks Freddie is like a revved up Corvette! |
| Iron Butterfly 20.02.2019 18:20 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Last night my son was here and I played Adam’s “Blue Suede Shoes” from the Elvis Special last Sunday. He had missed seeing it. He again compared Adam to a Lamborghini for his smooth, seamless performance and he still thinks Freddie is like a revved up Corvette!It's pretty bad but yet funny as hell when one has to repeat what a son said about AL to try to big him up. How many times have you posted that your son thinks AL is a Lamborghini and Freddie is like a Corvette? You might as well get him to post on Queen boards. |
| Iron Butterfly 20.02.2019 18:23 |
philip storey wrote: Freddie was never the whole of the show ,Roger would have his Drum solo and Brian had and still does his fifteen minute Guitar solo.Some fans went for a hot dog when the solo's were done,but I found them interesting and it obviously gave Freddie time to recover for the second part of the show.Sweetcaroline is no Queen fan, so I doubt she knows about Brian's and Roger's solos. She said it herself, she thinks Freddie was the whole show which isn't true. I really liked the solos back in the day. I liked it better then and with Q+PR better than I do in recent years that's for sure **ducks** |
| bucsateflon 20.02.2019 19:09 |
In the seventies people went to see Queen rock live, not Freddie hitting A4s |
| snifflese 20.02.2019 19:28 |
Of course You do, but don't have to duck as you are entitled to that opinion. I am sure it was so much better with QPR, but if it was a solo, doesn't make much sense to me as a solo is a solo. When Brian sits on the stage with QAL he is interacting by himself with the audience and I just can't imagine how it would be any different from previously (except Adam didn't sing with them then and even when he is off stage, I guess the show is tainted for you). You are really mean to Caroline for no good reason. I am sure she knows about the solos. Brian and Roger each sing solos during the QAL show. Sounds like she has seen enough old videos that she knows what they did back in the day. Since you two are huge Freddie fans, you probably never noticed how much about Freddie the old shows were. He was the show and all eyes were on him, partly because he is just charismatic, but also because he didn't interact much with the other three. For people who take an interest in the other members on the stage, it is quite noticeable. You guys only had eyes for Freddie and obviously don't revere the others like you do Freddie, so you are pretty blind to that. People see what they want to see but for me Freddie was always the focal point of attention. Good thing, since Freddie didn't always hit those notes live!! |
| Iron Butterfly 20.02.2019 19:29 |
bucsateflon wrote: In the seventies people went to see Queen rock live, not Freddie hitting A4sAs if those A4s were everything. It wasn't. Take Rainbow for example, Freddie and the guys had quality then. |
| Star* 20.02.2019 20:13 |
Freddie never hit the high notes all the time but that is because he was very energetic on stage and needed the energy to run about the stage, and gruelling tours took its toll on throat nodules. He was a very hard working front man. Freddie did make a Queen show dynamic he was the energy and the excitement of the shows arguably. |
| SweetCaroline 20.02.2019 20:38 |
Thanks, snifflese, I am not reading you know who’s ridiculous posts. Unlike some Queen fans, I have never left my seat during the Brian and Roger solos. In the recent tour, Brian was literally in outer space both physically and in his spectacular performance! Their solos have nothing to do with Adam but when the 3 of them (4 of them with Neil during UP) are on the B stage down in the audience, their interaction with each other is magical, much like it was with Freddie and Brian when they performed LOML together! |
| Iron Butterfly 20.02.2019 20:47 |
snifflese wrote: Of course You do, but don't have to duck as you are entitled to that opinion. I am sure it was so much better with QPR, but if it was a solo, doesn't make much sense to me as a solo is a solo. When Brian sits on the stage with QAL he is interacting by himself with the audience and I just can't imagine how it would be any different from previously (except Adam didn't sing with them then and even when he is off stage, I guess the show is tainted for you). You are really mean to Caroline for no good reason. I am sure she knows about the solos. Brian and Roger each sing solos during the QAL show. Sounds like she has seen enough old videos that she knows what they did back in the day. Since you two are huge Freddie fans, you probably never noticed how much about Freddie the old shows were. He was the show and all eyes were on him, partly because he is just charismatic, but also because he didn't interact much with the other three. For people who take an interest in the other members on the stage, it is quite noticeable. You guys only had eyes for Freddie and obviously don't revere the others like you do Freddie, so you are pretty blind to that. People see what they want to see but for me Freddie was always the focal point of attention. Good thing, since Freddie didn't always hit those notes live!!Q+PR was more rock than Q+AL was and at this point I dare say Q+AL ever could be. I do feel the solos worked better for Q+PR than it does for Q+AL. I'm truly not having a go, but I do feel it's somewhat out of place in Q+AL shows, especially without DOOL. Sweetcaroline has also been mean to me, but that's okay for you cause no matter what she has done and will do, not only are you on her side, you will take her side. The last couple of days you are mad/upset with me, because you didn't get what was obviously a moment and my reply to it was a joke. You thought a joke wasn't fair to AL and his fans. Boo hoo. |
| bucsateflon 20.02.2019 20:52 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Yes, like I said before, Freddie was always the whole show. .Do not get ahead of yourself! you wrote this caca, not us. |
| Iron Butterfly 20.02.2019 20:52 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Thanks, snifflese, I am not reading you know who’s ridiculous posts. Unlike some Queen fans, I have never left my seat during the Brian and Roger solos. In the recent tour, Brian was literally in outer space both physically and in his spectacular performance! Their solos have nothing to do with Adam but when the 3 of them (4 of them with Neil during UP) are on the B stage down in the audience, their interaction with each other is magical, much like it was with Freddie and Brian when they performed LOML together!Oh but you do read my posts. So given the fact some Queen fans leave their seats during Brian's and Roger's solo is another mark you have against Queen fans, because you say you didn't leave your seat Would it make you feel better if they left during the AL solo song xD. Brian was literally in outer space?? I think you have to look up the definition of litreally. It was good, but nope, he wasn't lit in outer space. No dear, what Q+AL does is hardly magical like what Queen did with Freddie. Again, you compare things, just to big up Q+AL. |
| snifflese 20.02.2019 20:54 |
Freddie didn't have to hit the high notes in concert. He did it on the recordings and as you say, there could be quite a difference in the key, high notes, etc in a live show. He was very energetic and his illness took a toll at some point. Freddie was amazing, the ultimate front man and he was the face of Queen. I just get annoyed when certain people on here always laugh at Adam and make little digs especially about his high notes as if his singing is all about that. That is part of what Adam does well. Fans watch for the sections where he hits the stratosphere on certain songs. They think he is sick if he doesn't done them. Every performer, singer is different and I wasn't dinging on Freddie, just on a couple of mean poster as usual. Freddie was the energy and excitement in the show and was therefore, the focal point, which those two posters also dispute. I didn't mean it negatively to Freddie, just to the other two posters. Freddie deserves every accolade he gets, but I think QAL is pretty darn good also, if the original isn't available. All these little digs and sarcastic remarks are not necessary ae they are always from the same folks. I agree wholeheartedly with what you said, Change! |
| Iron Butterfly 20.02.2019 20:55 |
bucsateflon wrote:She's already gone ahead. Actually, all she is proving that it seems unlikely she's ever watched a Queen concert. The drum solo and guitar solos are on many Queen DVDs after all. Those DVDs that she's claimed to own. So to say Freddie was the whole show is crap...she just bitter because she thinks AL is better.SweetCaroline wrote: Yes, like I said before, Freddie was always the whole show. .Do not get ahead of yourself! you wrote this kaka, not us. |
| bucsateflon 20.02.2019 20:56 |
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| Iron Butterfly 20.02.2019 21:01 |
snifflese wrote: Freddie didn't have to hit the high notes in concert. He did it on the recordings and as you say, there could be quite a difference in the key, high notes, etc in a live show. He was very energetic and his illness took a toll at some point. Freddie was amazing, the ultimate front man and he was the face of Queen. I just get annoyed when certain people on here always laugh at Adam and make little digs especially about his high notes as if his singing is all about that. That is part of what Adam does well. Fans watch for the sections where he hits the stratosphere on certain songs. They think he is sick if he doesn't done them. Every performer, singer is different and I wasn't dinging on Freddie, just on a couple of mean poster as usual. Freddie was the energy and excitement in the show and was therefore, the focal point, which those two posters also dispute. I didn't mean it negatively to Freddie, just to the other two posters. Freddie deserves every accolade he gets, but I think QAL is pretty darn good also, if the original isn't available. All these little digs and sarcastic remarks are not necessary ae they are always from the same folks. I agree wholeheartedly with what you said, Change!Exactly. Freddie didn't have to hit the high notes, because guess what? He was a well rounded musician. AL isn't one of those. It's almost as if AL at least to tried to overcompensate things in the early days of Q+AL. Believe me, I'm glad he has toned it down a bit, it's easier to listen to and believe me or not, I don't want him to damage his voice. But high notes are not everything. Some people make it seem because AL can do that during Queen songs that not much else matters. |
| bucsateflon 20.02.2019 21:03 |
The problem with you mindless AL fanboys is that you spend time arguing and contradicting with another mindless group of fanboys, the Freddie ones. You are both wrong, Queen was Greater than the Sum of its Parts. |
| Iron Butterfly 20.02.2019 21:05 |
change wrote: Freddie never hit the high notes all the time but that is because he was very energetic on stage and needed the energy to run about the stage, and gruelling tours took its toll on throat nodules. He was a very hard working front man. Freddie did make a Queen show dynamic he was the energy and the excitement of the shows arguably.Even now, Everytime I watch a Queen show, it still blows me away. I don't think to this day, I've seen a band with so much passion for what they did together, onstage even more so. |
| Iron Butterfly 20.02.2019 21:13 |
bucsateflon wrote: The problem with you mindless AL fanboys is that you spend time arguing and contradicting with another mindless group of fanboys, the Freddie ones. You are both wrong, Queen was Greater than the Sum of its Parts.I agree Queen was better together than they were apart. I know Freddie wasn't the be all and end for Queen. Partly why I'd like to see John in a montage during the Oscars for example...but I'm shot down by a Glambert for thinking that too ;-). |
| snifflese 20.02.2019 23:49 |
You Bucsateflon, are exactly right. It was all four individuals, not just Freddie which is what so many here think. There never would have been a Queen w/o all four of them. I do agree to that. |
| Iron Butterfly 21.02.2019 00:48 |
snifflese wrote: You Bucsateflon, are exactly right. It was all four individuals, not just Freddie which is what so many here think. There never would have been a Queen w/o all four of them. I do agree to that.Freddie was the driving force, one has to admit to that. Without Freddie there would not have been Queen. Without the other three members Queen would not have been Queen as well. Queen were Queen because of the four members. I find it odd you are saying what you are here since you give me crap about wanting Freddie and John being shown at the Oscars or in Q+AL shows. Hmm. |
| snifflese 21.02.2019 01:47 |
Icy, it is no longer Queen as all of you are always saying. The group is QAL and it is different. I think Freddie should somehow be highlighted at the Oscars just like he always has been in every concert, which is different from most bands who lose or cut members. Freddie is brought up several times during any QAL show and most bands would prefer not to do that. But QAL does keep Freddie's memory alive. I think maybe Adam has toured long enough that things like cutting Freddie singing the end of BR is warranted and that is what they did last tour, but they still showcase him somewhere. However, I am not on board with John. He has chosen to disassociate himself from all of it. That is his choice to do. He could still be part of things if he wished, he apparently does not, so I do not see why he should have any role in this. He could show up at the Oscars if he wanted. The crap you received from me was that you can't see why this performance should at all highlight or be important to Adam, Brian or Roger as it was all about Freddie and the biopic which is about him. There was no need to get too excited about them doing another cover. That is where the issue lies. The evening to me is two part, honor the band and Freddie in the biopic and then be equally excited about QAL's performance and hope that it is a huge success. |
| SweetCaroline 21.02.2019 07:17 |
snifflese, it’s interesting that icy is critical of the biopic but then goes on about it attracting more new fans than the live QAL shows. Yes, it has been very successful around the world but so has the QAL collaboration. To me, whether it is the movie or the shows with Brian and Roger or Queen Extravaganza or any other Queen tribute band, it is about the incredible music and THAT is what is so attractive to music lovers everywhere. Why say one is better than the other? I’ve seen the movie, been to QE live and QAL live and have appreciated and enjoyed them all. |
| Iron Butterfly 21.02.2019 07:45 |
SweetCaroline wrote: snifflese, it’s interesting that icy is critical of the biopic but then goes on about it attracting more new fans than the live QAL shows. Yes, it has been very successful around the world but so has the QAL collaboration. To me, whether it is the movie or the shows with Brian and Roger or Queen Extravaganza or any other Queen tribute band, it is about the incredible music and THAT is what is so attractive to music lovers everywhere. Why say one is better than the other? I’ve seen the movie, been to QE live and QAL live and have appreciated and enjoyed them all.Thought you weren't reading my posts? Haha. Obviously, you do read them. It's a fact the biopic has helped Queen get new fans, even with the wrong timelines etc in the film. You must be blind if you can't tell Queen has new fans lately because of the biopic. Can't help yourself to say Q+AL has been just as successful can you? Man, it must burn you that it's Queen's legacy and the biopic that is getting Queen new fans these days, huh. You say you have seen all that, but other than Q+AL, you can't even give much thought of your own about the Freddie and Queen legacy and music without somehow bringing AL into it. Not even then. You know what is attractive to Queen fans? Talent. Talent wins out dear. Queen had talent and AL is nowhere near that, nor is he likely to ever be close to it. No wonder why he is pretty much stuck singing cover songs these last couple of years. |
| Iron Butterfly 21.02.2019 08:07 |
snifflese wrote: Icy, it is no longer Queen as all of you are always saying. The group is QAL and it is different. I think Freddie should somehow be highlighted at the Oscars just like he always has been in every concert, which is different from most bands who lose or cut members. Freddie is brought up several times during any QAL show and most bands would prefer not to do that. But QAL does keep Freddie's memory alive. I think maybe Adam has toured long enough that things like cutting Freddie singing the end of BR is warranted and that is what they did last tour, but they still showcase him somewhere. However, I am not on board with John. He has chosen to disassociate himself from all of it. That is his choice to do. He could still be part of things if he wished, he apparently does not, so I do not see why he should have any role in this. He could show up at the Oscars if he wanted. The crap you received from me was that you can't see why this performance should at all highlight or be important to Adam, Brian or Roger as it was all about Freddie and the biopic which is about him. There was no need to get too excited about them doing another cover. That is where the issue lies. The evening to me is two part, honor the band and Freddie in the biopic and then be equally excited about QAL's performance and hope that it is a huge success.Honestly, I'm not even sure if during the performance that Freddie and John will be shown. Two main reasons, one time limit, and if recent tours are anything to go by, there is less of Freddie and John being included than before. If Bohemian Rhapsody ends up being the song to be be performed, Freddie deserves more than just one line to sing. It would not hurt for Freddie vocals to be more prominent. Give Freddie's vocals the last few lines, he deserves to be heard as well as seen. Okay...here we go. Don't forget for a minute that if not for John as well that AL wouldn't be where he is. Just because someone has retired from public life does not mean that person should not be seen or heard from again. IMO, John also deserves some respect. You realise that you have contradicted yourself and your statements. You feel because Freddie has passed away that Queen's music should still be played live. But because John has retired and is no longer in the music business you don't think he should be shown at the Oscars...that's a pretty big contradiction right there. And a pretty messy one at that. What if AL retires one day, do you think he should not be seen or heard from again? You say Queen were all four members, and that I will never disagree with you about that ( there is that at least ;-) ) but because a member has retired you don't think he should be shown at all at the Oscars. John is a very private man, even so he deserves respect. Shame that you aren't going to give him any respect. Freddie has passed away, John has retired, but want to know how I see the way you think. Because Brian and Roger are touring with AL, those are the two members of Queen that matter the most for you, because they hype, big up, promote AL. Freddie and John can't, so no wonder why you gripe about them when it's all said and done. It's crazy, you bleat on about Queen fans not giving Brian, Roger and AL credit, but you can't even respect John and Freddie. I have come across many fanbases in my years on the internet. In some cases, I've never encountered such entitlement and greed that some Glamberts have shown and on Queen boards no less. That's how you are coming across here. I doubt you truly know or care how important John was as a member of Queen. Regarding the Oscars you hope by Q+AL performing that it will get some Twitter buzz and it will somehow help AL. Well, at least that's out there how you truly feel now. |
| snifflese 21.02.2019 17:06 |
Back at you because everything you write can also be put on you, someone who is so myopic that only Freddie and maybe John are important to her. Read all your posts across the years and I bet Brian and Roger were mentioned in less that 5% of them and that is only because you were replying to someone's post. You can't seem to get Freddie out of your vision of Queen for even a minute. Not my problem. I can appreciate the old and the new. I believe in being flexible and seeing both sides of the coin. If you can't, fine, but don't criticize others for your issues. |
| Vocal harmony 21.02.2019 17:16 |
change wrote: Freddie never hit the high notes all the time but that is because he was very energetic on stage and needed the energy to run about the stage, and gruelling tours took its toll on throat nodules. He was a very hard working front man. Freddie did make a Queen show dynamic he was the energy and the excitement of the shows arguably.On some tours Freddie was very consistent hitting notes and not cutting phrases short. On other tours his voice wasn't as good as we ll know it could be. I don't think you can put Freddie's different vocal performance down to running/moving around on stage, after all Roger at the time put huge effort into his playing and still hit the notes required regularly. Speak to any rock drummer and they'll tell you the performance effort over a two hour show is a killer Freddie's up and down vocal performance was down to life style and over exertion/bad technique. If your going to compare Lambert or even Paul Rodgers for that matter, both are more consistent and look after them selves and the voices better than Freddie |
| Iron Butterfly 21.02.2019 18:57 |
snifflese wrote: Back at you because everything you write can also be put on you, someone who is so myopic that only Freddie and maybe John are important to her. Read all your posts across the years and I bet Brian and Roger were mentioned in less that 5% of them and that is only because you were replying to someone's post. You can't seem to get Freddie out of your vision of Queen for even a minute. Not my problem. I can appreciate the old and the new. I believe in being flexible and seeing both sides of the coin. If you can't, fine, but don't criticize others for your issues.Seriously, do shut up or stop twisting I've not even said. You have claimed to have read my posts for nearly a decade, go find one where I have stated Freddie and John are the only ones who matter. I never have. You sure sound like you appreciate Queen, given the fact you don't think John should be shown at all. You ate so full of contradicting statements. All you see and hear is AL. That's more obvious in your posts lately. You want him to get a Twitter buzz. You can't even be bothered to discuss Queen at all. Yep, some fan you are *sarcasm*. |
| Star* 21.02.2019 19:36 |
Vocal Harmony : So you think Lambert and Paul Rodgers look after themselves better than Freddie did, well Lambert is only young so that does not count and Paul Rodgers was not a tornado on stage like Freddie plus furthermore Freddie is highly regarded than both Lambert and Rodgers put together, he is not considered the greatest male vocalist ever for nothing! You are wrong again. |
| snifflese 21.02.2019 20:20 |
Icy, you don't don't discuss Queen either. You reply negatively to every Glambert post and call people out. Show me where you have ever said anything that was interesting about them. Oh, and you ask people what they think. Your posts are truly enlightening for sure! You are one of those people who can't see the forest for the trees. That is about all I can say at this point. |
| Iron Butterfly 21.02.2019 21:37 |
snifflese wrote: Icy, you don't don't discuss Queen either. You reply negatively to every Glambert post and call people out. Show me where you have ever said anything that was interesting about them. Oh, and you ask people what they think. Your posts are truly enlightening for sure! You are one of those people who can't see the forest for the trees. That is about all I can say at this point.I do discuss Queen. Nope, I don't respond negatively to every Glambert or AL fan. Rockchic and I seem to get on, even though she and I don't agree on everything. What have you ever said about Queen? That you can't be bothered to discuss them, and then you try to turn things on me. |
| SweetCaroline 21.02.2019 22:13 |
snifflese, there is a mental problem going on here and that’s why it is a never ending merry-go-round !!! |
| Iron Butterfly 21.02.2019 22:18 |
SweetCaroline wrote: snifflese, there is a mental problem going on here and that’s why it is a never ending merry-go-round !!!And you say that without reading my posts? I really can't believe you are bringing up mental problems in this way today after the letter AL put out there. The guy is more tactful than you ever could be, sweetcaroline/CNB. Mental health is no joke. All you have ever done is mock about it. Maybe AL will open up your eyes, ears and heart regarding it in his letter and music, because you sure have mocked Sam, his music and even his fans regarding how you feel about depressing things. And you think I'm a negative, selfish, bitch. You are pretty much heartless. I hope you have some heart in there for what AL has gone through, cause you sure don't have it for anyone else. |
| Star* 22.02.2019 11:31 |
Is Adam Lambert mental? We all knew he was ha ha ha |
| Vocal harmony 22.02.2019 11:55 |
Gold wrote: Vocal Harmony : So you think Lambert and Paul Rodgers look after themselves better than Freddie did, well Lambert is only young so that does not count and Paul Rodgers was not a tornado on stage like Freddie plus furthermore Freddie is highly regarded than both Lambert and Rodgers put together, he is not considered the greatest male vocalist ever for nothing! You are wrong again.I'm wrong again am I. Freddie was actually younger than Adam Lambert is now when his vocal problems started. He also leads a fairly clean life style, especially compared to Freddie, who in the late 70 and early to mid 80's, was into quite a lot of cocain use and wild hedonistic parties. He basically didn't care about the damage he did to himself. Rodgers went through a wild rock star 70's period but by the late 80's was on the road to a much more healthy life style than Freddie had led. Now days Rodgers, who is in the same age group as Freddie would have been can still sing like he could 40 years ago. Freddie on some tours couldn't sing like he did the tour before and in some cases the week before. Lambert sings consistently from night to night purely because he knows how yo sing in a professional way and he takes care of his voice and him self. Freddie didn't always do that. If you want to use the argument that Freddie couldn't sing at his best because he as such a showman and was always moving you should have watched or been going to see Van Halen in the early 80's. There show production was usuallybigger than Queen and David Lee Roth moved around more than Freddie. He couldn't sing that well live, but hey that didn't matter he moved around a lot. . . Or at least that seems to be your argument! |
| Star* 22.02.2019 16:13 |
Wrong again, you just cant swallow the fact that Freddie is the greatest rock vocalist ever, and you have to try and make other artists sound better than Freddie. You are wasting your time because history has been made and Freddie has done what he was put on earth to do. He was not a rock star he was a legend and the greatest of all rock male vocalists, so yet again you have lost the argument or do you want to argue with the world over that one? So Freddie had a wild exciting life snorting cocaine and sucking lots of cock and still pulled it off to be the greatest, not bad eh! |
| Vocal harmony 22.02.2019 17:04 |
Gold wrote: . . . . the greatest of all rock male vocalists, so yet again you have lost the argument . . ..One of Freddie's major strengths was that he could sing in several styles convincingly. Look at the wide range of styles that Queen covered. But if your going to single out Rock then Freddie would be in the same pond as Rob Halford, Ronnie James Dio, Brian Johnson, Robert Plant and several more. At the height of their prowess they were better rock vocalists than Freddie. Yeah I know I'm wrong, Freddie is the greatest I've heard it all before. It's just a shame that through your blinded fandom view you seem to have missed what made Freddie great and so doing you're ignoring what made others great at what they did. |
| Holly2003 22.02.2019 17:28 |
Yep. It would be really funny to hear Brian Johnson sing Lazing on a Sunday Afternoon, Dio attempt Who Needs You, or Halford have a go at Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy. |
| Vocal harmony 22.02.2019 17:38 |
Holly2003 wrote: Yep. It would be really funny to hear Brian Johnson sing Lazing on a Sunday Afternoon, Dio attempt Who Needs You, or Halford have a go at Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy.There's a covers album waiting to be made there! |
| Star* 22.02.2019 19:46 |
Vocal Harmony I am far from blind and it seems the rest of the world agrees with me too. There will never be another Freddie and it is well documented that he is officially the greatest rock vocalist ever! According to you other singers are better yet they have not been considered greatest vocalists have they? Time you took your rose coloured specs off dear! Freddie made Queen who they were! |
| Holly2003 22.02.2019 21:34 |
Vocal harmony wrote:I'd pay to hear it! :)Holly2003 wrote: Yep. It would be really funny to hear Brian Johnson sing Lazing on a Sunday Afternoon, Dio attempt Who Needs You, or Halford have a go at Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy.There's a covers album waiting to be made there! |
| Vocal harmony 24.02.2019 16:27 |
Holly2003 wrote:Limited edition vinyl Boxset of courseVocal harmony wrote:I'd pay to hear it! :)Holly2003 wrote: Yep. It would be really funny to hear Brian Johnson sing Lazing on a Sunday Afternoon, Dio attempt Who Needs You, or Halford have a go at Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy.There's a covers album waiting to be made there! |