vin221 12.01.2019 03:17 |
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Invisible Woman 12.01.2019 09:04 |
Same story as always, she inherited a great fortune, Freddie said about her this, Freddie said that, "love of my life" etc... Boring. If something is repeated a thousand times doesn't mean that it's all true. |
eYe 12.01.2019 09:07 |
Btw... wasn't Barbara Valentin very important for him too? AFAIK she wasn't allowed to go to the funeral, and was not mentiond in the movie at all. What is the story behind that? |
Star* 12.01.2019 09:44 |
Freddie did find Barbara more fun than drab Mary, but i truly believe it was Jim Hutton that lighted the fire for Freddie, he brought so much joy and love to Freddie's heart and Freddie even began calling Jim his "husband" so i am sure hairy Mary was envious of that! |
Kuijpy 12.01.2019 11:13 |
I was shocked by her photo's, doesnt like at all like 17 years a go... |
scottmax 12.01.2019 13:23 |
She’s looking a bit ropey!! |
stevelondon20 12.01.2019 13:45 |
Wouldn't you after all that time? Lol! |
Chopin1995 12.01.2019 16:03 |
Yay, new photo of Mary Austin! |
Star* 12.01.2019 17:03 |
That photo of Mary is shocking, what an old hag sh has turned into and you would have thought somebody who had Freddie's millions would have kept themselves presentable and young looking. You get what you reap. |
Holly2003 12.01.2019 17:09 |
EMI2565 wrote: That photo of Mary is shocking, what an old hag sh has turned into and you would have thought somebody who had Freddie's millions would have kept themselves presentable and young looking. You get what you reap.I'm sure she gives a fuck what you think. |
EMI2565 12.01.2019 17:13 |
EMI2565 wrote: That photo of Mary is shocking, what an old hag sh has turned into and you would have thought somebody who had Freddie's millions would have kept themselves presentable and young looking. You get what you reap.I'm sure she gives a fuck about your view, you moronic dweeb. What has it got to do with you how she looks? That is obviously a paparazzi shot, some creep with a cam just waiting for a glimpse. She could be ill and not caring, just nipping out to the shop or whatever. Who cares? Why is this in the serious forum anyway? |
Thistle 12.01.2019 17:43 |
Yeah, getting ripped in to someone else over how they look in a shit photo is a bit daft. How she looks, how she spends her money etc is nowt to do with any of us. There's fandom and there's voyeurism. |
Invisible Woman 12.01.2019 17:54 |
This photo is not shocking to me, she is 68 years old. It's shocking to me that she still earns enormous money on Freddie's name and account. And I wondering how someone can judging Jim for the book in which describing how much Freddie and he loved each other. How anyone can calls him gold digger? |
runner_70 12.01.2019 18:41 |
EMI2565 wrote: That photo of Mary is shocking, what an old hag sh has turned into and you would have thought somebody who had Freddie's millions would have kept themselves presentable and young looking. You get what you reap.How do you look at 67 you miserable sod. Why badmouthing Mary? BEcause Maylor hate her for interiting Freddies rights to the songs? |
runner_70 12.01.2019 18:44 |
Invisible Woman wrote: This photo is not shocking to me, she is 68 years old. It's shocking to me that she still earns enormous money on Freddie's name and account. And I wondering how someone can judging Jim for the book in which describing how much Freddie and he loved each other. How anyone can calls him gold digger?She interited the money and the rights to the songs? What should she have done??? She is right about JIm. The book was awful and indiscrete. She is the only one (apart John) who stood loyal to Freddie and did not write a book or shit like that. The biggest golddiggers are Maylor though. Exploiting Freddie and insulting him at the same time. That's where you should be shocked |
FunLovinCriminal 12.01.2019 21:02 |
Ladies, Gentleman and EMI2565: This "article" did appear in The Daily Mail! What do you expect and why are you debating it as if it had featured some serious information? I, for one, am not at all sure that the "new" photo featured in this crap-story actually really shows Mary Austin.If so, who cares? To even assume that people owning millions have to "keep themselves presentable and young looking“ is pathetic. by the way, the "article" got one "fact" wrong. The 25 percent share of Freddie's future earnings, that belonged to his parents, didn't fell to Mary Austin when they passed away, but to Freddie's sister (and to her handsome son, hopefully). Financially they're all well off, Mary Austin can look like King King or Baby Doll if she wants to and we are debating the same old bullshit presented to us by the Red Tops over and over again. This can be heaven for everyone, right? |
Invisible Woman 12.01.2019 22:53 |
runner_70 wrote: She interited the money and the rights to the songs? What should she have done??? She is right about JIm. The book was awful and indiscrete. She is the only one (apart John) who stood loyal to Freddie and did not write a book or shit like that. The biggest golddiggers are Maylor though. Exploiting Freddie and insulting him at the same time. That's where you should be shockedWhy is Jim's book insulting? Or awful? He had the right to tell their story, that was his life too. Many people believe in fairy tales about Mary and Freddie, like those shown in the movie. If this book doesn't exist would be easier for persons who created stories like this to twisting the facts, so I'm glad that this book exists. About Brian and Roger, do I agree or disagree with all what they do, it doesn't matter. They are members of the band and they have a part in making Queen's music and it's logical to make money from it. |
Iron Butterfly 12.01.2019 23:06 |
Thistle wrote: Yeah, getting ripped in to someone else over how they look in a shit photo is a bit daft. How she looks, how she spends her money etc is nowt to do with any of us. There's fandom and there's voyeurism.I agree. I'm not even going to click on the link. Daily Fail sucks. |
Invisible Woman 12.01.2019 23:17 |
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Invisible Woman 12.01.2019 23:19 |
@runner 70 And if they jealous of Mary, did they would make a movie like this? |
k-m 13.01.2019 01:43 |
That new photo... Ouch!!! One of these things you wish you had actually NOT seen in your life. |
Star* 13.01.2019 08:54 |
Mary did insult Freddie on a documentary once by calling him "a gay" and to be honest she had lots of men after Freddie so she was hardly that close to him, and probably just a friend nothing more. Freddie found true love with Jim Hutton, and Mary could not handle that one. |
mr mason 13.01.2019 10:22 |
I met her in 92,have a photo somewhere,she was lovely,and took time to talk about Freddie,and Garden Lodge! |
Chrisallstar 13.01.2019 14:27 |
She’s not a gold digger - a lifelong and very supportive friend of Freddie. She didn’t ask to be left 50% of Freddie’s fortune. One thing that bothers me about the article is when they say the rest of Queen were bitter about her being left so much. Would they really care? They seem to split most things four ways and are extremely rich themselves - surely they wouldn’t have expected to be left anything by Freddie? Also it’s not like mary has stopped them doing anything with Freddie’s music etc |
runner_70 13.01.2019 15:54 |
Invisible Woman wrote:I do not think if it is appropriate to let strangers know that he peed himself in the pants and other stuff. That was disgusting to writerunner_70 wrote: She interited the money and the rights to the songs? What should she have done??? She is right about JIm. The book was awful and indiscrete. She is the only one (apart John) who stood loyal to Freddie and did not write a book or shit like that. The biggest golddiggers are Maylor though. Exploiting Freddie and insulting him at the same time. That's where you should be shockedWhy is Jim's book insulting? Or awful? He had the right to tell their story, that was his life too. Many people believe in fairy tales about Mary and Freddie, like those shown in the movie. If this book doesn't exist would be easier for persons who created stories like this to twisting the facts, so I'm glad that this book exists. About Brian and Roger, do I agree or disagree with all what they do, it doesn't matter. They are members of the band and they have a part in making Queen's music and it's logical to make money from it. |
runner_70 13.01.2019 15:55 |
EMI2565 wrote: Mary did insult Freddie on a documentary once by calling him "a gay" and to be honest she had lots of men after Freddie so she was hardly that close to him, and probably just a friend nothing more. Freddie found true love with Jim Hutton, and Mary could not handle that one.So you know her personally? |
FunLovinCriminal 13.01.2019 15:58 |
Christallstar, please do not believe what the sensationalist press is telling you. A lot of its stories are just made up - partially. No one in Queen is bitter towards Mary Austin because of her inheritance. In fact, she's a trustee of the Mercury Phoenix Trust, alongside Brian, Roger and Jim Beach. They might not hang out with each other casually, but that doesn't indicate that anyone in the Queen organization is bitter towards her. As far as the photo is concerned, I am not at all sure that it really shows Mary Austin. If it does, who cares about how she looks like? She doesn't look awful, just different. Older. And she's entitled to look that way. She's not a celebrity and, to my knowledge, never seeked the limelight. Why would she go out shopping dressed to the nines? If the photo really shows her, she wears a Whole Foods-bag, thus she probably went shopping. By the way, a large Whole Foods-store is located about a 15-20 minute walk distance from Garden Lodge on Kensington High Street. Therefore, it might be her... |
miraclesteinway 13.01.2019 16:30 |
That's definitely Mary Austin in the photo. She's entitled to slip out in tracksuit bottoms and go shopping without being photographed, and it looks like she was completely unaware of it being taken. I'm sure she can glam herself up when necessary. Think of all the times Freddie walked around in a tracksuit looking nothing like Freddie Mercury.... In some ways Mary Austin is lucky, she inherited a lot of money and the rights to live in a beautiful house. In other ways, she's had to deal with being hounded by the press, false accusations in the press, and the fall out with the relationship with Jim Hutton (if they fell out, so what, there was animosity there, and not one of them will be fully in the right, but does it need to go in print?), and she's had to stop people writing on her house. I don't feel sorry for her in the sense that she's well off and can do what she likes with the enormous financial freedom she has, but I do feel sorry that her privacy is not her own. |
people on streets 13.01.2019 17:10 |
miraclesteinway wrote: That's definitely Mary Austin in the photo. She's entitled to slip out in tracksuit bottoms and go shopping without being photographed, and it looks like she was completely unaware of it being taken. I'm sure she can glam herself up when necessary. Think of all the times Freddie walked around in a tracksuit looking nothing like Freddie Mercury.... In some ways Mary Austin is lucky, she inherited a lot of money and the rights to live in a beautiful house. In other ways, she's had to deal with being hounded by the press, false accusations in the press, and the fall out with the relationship with Jim Hutton (if they fell out, so what, there was animosity there, and not one of them will be fully in the right, but does it need to go in print?), and she's had to stop people writing on her house. I don't feel sorry for her in the sense that she's well off and can do what she likes with the enormous financial freedom she has, but I do feel sorry that her privacy is not her own.spot on |
Thistle 13.01.2019 17:18 |
EMI2565 wrote: Mary did insult Freddie on a documentary once by calling him "a gay"How is calling a gay man "gay" an insult? Do you even bother to think about what you're saying? |
NeverTooLate 13.01.2019 17:56 |
Ah yes, 68 yrs old. Some people have this impression that aging can actually be stopped. Surprise on you! Sure, Mary could have her hair colored to take out all the gray; I bet with some makeup on she looks younger than her years, but if people think a 68 yr old with no makeup on is going to somehow pass for 40, well you're in for a very rude awakening. And hate to break it to you all, but putting on weight in the years after menopause is very common and then there's gravity which always has it's way. Compare pics of Rog and Bri now with themselves 20 yrs ago. Notice them aging? As for Mary and receiving all she did in Freddie's will, that was his choice. Did anyone ever legally contest Freddie's will? (answer: no). There's no way the other members of Queen would care how Freddie divided up his estate in his will. Why would they? It's not like the 3 other band members were going to be beneficiaries in Freddie's estate. There was nothing in Freddie's will that limited the remaining Queen members from doing what they wanted to do with the music or his likeness. On the other hand Mary does seem like a lonely person to me--probably was utterly lost and sad for years after Freddie died. Perhaps still is. Her sons are grown and living their own lives. She is surrounded by all the memories of Freddie in an estate that still has his furnishings (allegedly). The decades pass but the loss remains forever, and while fans feel deeply how Freddie was amazing and can never be replaced, imagine knowing him as intimately as Mary (and Jim) did. The tragedy of Freddie is as real as the triumph and genius of his talent. I read Hutton's book and I like it for the insight into those last years and appreciated the intimacy of it all, including dear Freddie's death. |
Invisible Woman 13.01.2019 18:55 |
@ runner_70 To me, there is nothing insulting in Jim's book. In fact, we learned from this book how Freddie really was brave. Regardless of the illness he continued to work, making songs, singing and recording. How he tried to continue normal life as much as possible. I understand why Jim wanted to tell the world their story. He wanted everyone to know that the truth was different from the one that even today is in the media. I like the book but I don't mind if someone doesn't like it. Everyone has their own opinion. Ok. Mary inherited the house and money. But if it's true that Freddie wanted Jim and others to stay in the house and told them that it would be so, likely he had a reason why he believed that really will happen. Only Freddie knew what reason was but if he believed in her word, he was very wrong. |
MisterCosmicc 14.01.2019 00:59 |
Didn’t Freddie get a house for Jim besides money? And why would Mary want to raise her children with all those dudes and their lovers in her house? Certainly Freddie wouldn’t have expected that. |
Invisible Woman 14.01.2019 08:36 |
MisterCosmicc wrote: Didn’t Freddie get a house for Jim besides money? And why would Mary want to raise her children with all those dudes and their lovers in her house? Certainly Freddie wouldn’t have expected that.If Freddie didn't expect that they really stay in the house as long as they want, why he said it to them then? Just for joking? Or did he say it just to something to say? I don't think he would be joking about it. I believe he had some reason that he thought they would stay in the house. I think If he didn't expect it he wouldn't mention it. But who knows. We can only have our own opinion about it. |
Star* 14.01.2019 15:00 |
Thistle: It was just the way Mary said it on the interview "A gay" somehow belittling Freddie and looking down her nose at him for betraying her love for him, she was bitter and very jealous of all Freddie's lovers and there was loads. |
NeverTooLate 14.01.2019 15:51 |
I don't think Freddie understood that if he didn't specify in his will that Jim and whoever else could stay on at Garden Lodge for whatever time, that it wasn't something he or they could expect to happen, and certainly not enforceable. That's the part of Jim's book I felt sad and angry about--that they were told one thing and then were dismissed. And it's not like Garden Lodge didn't still need to be run...certainly the gardens needed tending. The coldness of behavior by Mary towards people she had known for many years (if that was accurate) and who certainly cared for and about Freddie seemed unnecessary and harsh. The other part that really bothered me is how Freddie cut Peter Straker out of his life just like that, no discussion, because Straker had asked Freddie if he was sick (with AIDS). Peter was described as being a devoted friend. |
OliverPhillips 02.03.2020 18:07 |
It seems to be a hot discussion. I hope that I'm gonna check over here for grademiners review and this would help me a little bit. It is almost impossible to find the real truth. Maybe we should start a new discussion? |
miraclesteinway 07.03.2020 23:21 |
Imagine this version of events: 1991: Peter, Joe and Jim are still living at the house, Freddie has said they can stay but didn't write anything down. He knew at that time that Jim and Joe were both not very well and didn't expect them to live much longer than he himself did. Joe didn't, actually, but Jim did, as we all know. Freddie dies, Mary asks Jim, Joe, and Peter to leave the house. Jim feels hard done by, and I can understand that but at the end of the day it's no longer his place to live. The three of them are able to find new places to live (history unfolds and Joe lives only another year, Jim 19 years, and Peter makes a career out of Freddie's memory which is actually understandable but he has been a little crass at times). Mary stays on in the house, at first she's a bit haunted by Freddie's memory and legacy and finds things difficult. As was always the case she isn't interested in talking to the media, she never was when Freddie was alive, and she isn't now that he's dead although she did make a video for the fan club convention in 1992, and spoke to the media on the anniversary of Freddie's death in 1992 (videos on YouTube). Mary gets pissed off when people write on the wall of her house (rightly so, actually), and she doesn't particularly like being hounded in the street by fans hanging outside the door. She's gracious enough not to ask them to leave when they're there, but she does ask that they don't film her. She's obviously very shy and always has been. She'd pose for the cameras with Freddie but that was the limit of things as far as publicity went for her. Mary settles into the house and mews, makes adjustments to the place over time, sells the mews eventually (they're now a holiday cottage as far as I know), fans get annoyed with her that she's not opening the house to the public or making it a museum (why should she?), and her refusal to give interviews leads the press to print whatever they want about her. In 2000 she lets HELLO! magazine into the house to show people around. IN those first few years she had to deal with the house, the estate, the judgement of the fans, undergo a trial by media, and deal with Freddie's ashes AFTER spending five years watching her best friend in a terminal decline. Over time she gets used to her new life and actually goes through her middle age and now her early old-age (she'll be about 70 now I think) as a happy and contented woman, living in a beautiful home, and not really caring what anyone has to write about her. She has her own social circle outside of Queen and the media, and doesn't keep in touch with Freddie's family (which is in itself a little strange but whatever, who cares), and raises a happy family over the decades since Freddie's death. Imagine she's not living a reclusive life, coping with loss every day, and she might actually just be getting on with things, being rather boring, and simply not paying any attention to forums like this. Yeah there's the odd run in with RBKC planning department etc, but that's not unheard of in London.... It would also be funny if she's actually ON this forum but I doubt it. |
MyHumanZoo 08.03.2020 03:35 |
MiracleS....probably the most accurate representation of what happened that I’ve ever read..... |
brENsKi 08.03.2020 07:36 |
@miraclesteinway agreed. people have no idea what life has been like for her before and after Freddie's death. people really only see what appears on the surface. they don't know the detail, or the reality. |
Dougie 4 08.03.2020 09:38 |
Jim's book on Freddie was a disgusting betrayal of the trust Freddie put on him. Freddie was a very private person, and was hounded by the press in a way that made his bandmates angry. I lost all respect fo Jim after reading his book. |
dudeofqueen 08.03.2020 10:30 |
Reckon she's got a host of blokes willing to drop their standards for a shot up her - winkle your way in there, profess undying love for her, avoid the pre-nuptual and BINGO! |
HelloDelilah 09.03.2020 02:43 |
@Miracle Steinway, sounds like that could actually be reality. Imagine being loved, adored, and trusted by Freddie Mercury. What an amazing life she had in her younger days. |
brENsKi 09.03.2020 07:02 |
HelloDelilah wrote:@Miracle Steinway, sounds like that could actually be reality. Imagine being loved, adored, and trusted by Freddie Mercury. What an amazing life she had in her younger days.and how ultimately futile that love would be. they both share a love that endures two decades of "rock n roll". they are there for each other through thick and thin, soulmates, confidants and best friends. perfect in almost every way - save for "you know what". |
HelloDelilah 09.03.2020 14:53 |
brENsKi wrote:@brENsKi, Exactly. Perfect in almost every way. It’s crystal clear who was top priority in Freddie’s life. Mary was his rock whom he could turn to for everything.HelloDelilah wrote:@Miracle Steinway, sounds like that could actually be reality. Imagine being loved, adored, and trusted by Freddie Mercury. What an amazing life she had in her younger days.and how ultimately futile that love would be. they both share a love that endures two decades of "rock n roll". they are there for each other through thick and thin, soulmates, confidants and best friends. perfect in almost every way - save for "you know what". @MiracleSteinway, your post was excellent and spot on. @MyHumanZoo Totally agree. |