QueenZone discussion #1530834

SweetCaroline wrote: Should QAL play a medley at the Oscars? link

SweetCaroline wrote: Those are all original songs in the “Bohemian Rhapsody” movie if it gets any nominations.

SweetCaroline wrote: Not saying those songs would be nominated. Just suggesting them as entertainment.

snifflese wrote: You just don't want Adam to get to perform on a major platform and I can't imagine anyone being that hateful towards someone they don't even know. Every time he gets a chance to sing or appear somewhere you have some problem with it. Unbelievable!!

SweetCaroline wrote: Icy is the exact opposite of a fangirl. Thank goodness she wasn’t around when the Queen band was new. I’m sure she would have found something to bitch about !!!

snifflese wrote: As i have said before, what is good for the goose is good for the gander. Freddie might have made a few fashion missteps and other little things like that. You people went on and on about Adam's choice of clothes, so why can't those weird white shorts be mentioned. They were gosh awful. I don't think it was shock or pearl clutching, it was just a statement that Freddie can also look ridiculous in some of his personal choices. These things were said to refute some of your statements as if Freddie was so perfect. Nope, he definitely had his share oops just like anyone else.

snifflese wrote: You are a wackadoodle. You go off on tangents of absolute ridiculousness. Please don't ever say a word about the sainted Freddie, even if it is true. His shorts weren't shocking or pearl clutching, he just looked stupid and if you don't like that, too bad. There is nothing that can be said on this board that somehow doesn't result in something about Freddie and you say you are not obsessed about him. I don't get some of the stretches you make to get to your conclusions. They make no sense at all unless you are so wound up with him that you can't see anything else. You are hopeless, truly. A normal person could never have a discussion with you about Queen, Freddie, or QAL. Everything to you is offensive and or negative and this business of it is a Queen board is just stupid, everything seems to fly on this board. Not liking Freddie's white shorts is pretty mild in comparison to most of what is posted here, but you never have any problems with that. So don't act so affronted.

snifflese wrote: Who is more original than Brian and Roger? !

The Fairy King wrote: Once again the anti-Lamberts hijacked a thread and made it truly malicious.

runner_70 wrote:

The Fairy King wrote: Once again the anti-Lamberts hijacked a thread and made it truly malicious.

Discuss the ladyboy on some of his sites if he has one

matt z wrote: I don't think the OP understands the qualifications for consideration. That's not Lambert bashing. It's common sense. There was no new song in the film. So no performance...now for best score....a very unlikely inclusion as well. Not die its considered as much and none of the original cues are worth mentioning. Hell...I'm not even sure there were any. I'll go listen back to it today

SweetCaroline wrote: Matt, I am fully aware of the qualifications for a nominated song. My idea for the band to play a short medley of Queen songs is similar to what Lady GaGa did for the 50th anniversary of The Sound of Music: link

snifflese wrote: And aren't you just thrilled that Adam wouldn't have an opportunity like that! You are something else! I have never run across anyone as mean spirited as you. Santa is watching, so you better be careful!! You are going to get nothing but coal in your stocking this year!

snifflese wrote: That is not the point, you are just glad that Adam wouldn't have the chance. You couldn't see why he would be at one of the biopic opening nights, but it was OK for everyone else including the media who had zip to do with anything. Why should he be on a TV show or he has nothing to do with the Kennedy Center show. That is the way you are about anything that he might get to do. Maybe you haven't noticed, but it is a pattern. He has worked for years at his craft and it is always nice to get a little recognition, a pat on the back, but you begrudge him everything as it might take something away from Freddie. How, I don't know... It is a joke, Icy, it is Christmas time, remember? I would say what are you on to even ask a stupid question like that at this time of year. Wow!! In case you don't get it, mean people get coal in their stockings at Christmas and I would say you qualify! You can actually buy fake plastic coal to put in people's stocking! We have some packed away from when the kids were little.

Jimmy Dean wrote: movie made almost 600M worldwide.... and it had to do with music. pretty good chance Q+AL will be asked to perform - IF... it get's a nomination or two. without a nomination it would be less likely but still very possible

SweetCaroline wrote: Rami and the movie have already been nominated for the Golden Globes so there is a very good chance they will also be nominated for an Academy Award.

Jimmy Dean wrote: haven't watched the oscars in years - but you are probably right - yes, i agree, they should not be nominated for best song - i didn't realize that only those that are nominated for best song are the ones performed. To help prove your point, I looked up Oscar performances in 2005 and there none from the movie Ray. So there you have it.

SweetCaroline wrote: Reminder: Adam performed at the Kennedy Center Honors when it was not believed he would, so anything is possible.

SweetCaroline wrote: Read my original post and the article I posted. It was never about them receiving an Oscar for their music. I am not dumb.

SweetCaroline wrote: You ARE stalking when you go digging for posts from 3 years ago. I still don’t like her tattoos and I still don’t like Adam’s tattoos. Maybe you should go dig those up, too since you have a Sherlock Holmes complex.

snifflese wrote: Well maybe one of his songs for the new Play Mobil movie will earn him some accolades and we will get to see him sing that on TV. He and Meghan Trainor are singing songs. Whether there are any duets, or they are all solo,nobody knows at the moment. I love Trainor and her songs are just so hummable, but I am not sure her voice and style would mesh with Adam's. I can't wait to find out!! Should be new music and a lot of fun, if nothing else.

snifflese wrote: Well maybe one of his songs for the new Play Mobil movie will earn him some accolades and we will get to see him sing that on TV. He and Meghan Trainor are singing songs. Whether there are any duets, or they are all solo,nobody knows at the moment. I love Trainor and her songs are just so hummable, but I am not sure her voice and style would mesh with Adam's. I can't wait to find out!! Should be new music and a lot of fun, if nothing else.

rockchic65 wrote:

snifflese wrote: Well maybe one of his songs for the new Play Mobil movie will earn him some accolades and we will get to see him sing that on TV. He and Meghan Trainor are singing songs. Whether there are any duets, or they are all solo,nobody knows at the moment. I love Trainor and her songs are just so hummable, but I am not sure her voice and style would mesh with Adam's. I can't wait to find out!! Should be new music and a lot of fun, if nothing else.

Pretty sure it's a solo song, Adam's fans have been chatting with Lino on twitter for a while and it sounded like it was just Adam when he mentioned the song.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

snifflese wrote: Well maybe one of his songs for the new Play Mobil movie will earn him some accolades and we will get to see him sing that on TV. He and Meghan Trainor are singing songs. Whether there are any duets, or they are all solo,nobody knows at the moment. I love Trainor and her songs are just so hummable, but I am not sure her voice and style would mesh with Adam's. I can't wait to find out!! Should be new music and a lot of fun, if nothing else.

Pretty sure it's a solo song, Adam's fans have been chatting with Lino on twitter for a while and it sounded like it was just Adam when he mentioned the song.

I see. It's not a cover is it? Hope not.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

snifflese wrote: Well maybe one of his songs for the new Play Mobil movie will earn him some accolades and we will get to see him sing that on TV. He and Meghan Trainor are singing songs. Whether there are any duets, or they are all solo,nobody knows at the moment. I love Trainor and her songs are just so hummable, but I am not sure her voice and style would mesh with Adam's. I can't wait to find out!! Should be new music and a lot of fun, if nothing else.

Pretty sure it's a solo song, Adam's fans have been chatting with Lino on twitter for a while and it sounded like it was just Adam when he mentioned the song.

I see. It's not a cover is it? Hope not.

No Lino said it's definitely an original song.

SweetCaroline wrote: With A Star Is Born, Mary Poppins Returns, Bumblebee (Hailie Steinfeld), it looks like there will be a lot of original songs being nominated.

SweetCaroline wrote: Gaga has a song called “Shallow” but I haven’t heard it because I haven’t seen the movie.

snifflese wrote: The movie is awesome! Hard to believe it was Gaga. She is such an attractive wholesome girl. It is a shame she covers that up when she performs. I honestly wouldn't have recognized her if I hadn't known. She looked that different in the movie. I am not quite sure that it was as good as the Streisand movie as that is one of my all time favorites, but it comes awfully close. I liked the music in the earlier movie better as it was more rock, I thought. I loved Cooper, maybe a bit more than her, but either one could win the Academy Award for their performance. You should see it at some point. Even my husband liked it a lot and that is unusual!! There was thing that I found interesting about her voice and I have a number of her CD's, so I thought I was quite familiar with it. Her upper range is not that good and really not that high. Adam can sing a lot higher than she can which really surprised me. Her voice is wonderful, but a lot deeper than I ever realized. I know Icy has talked about her singing with Queen and she would be great for the rock stuff that required a deeper voice, but she couldn't hit those high notes. I had never noticed how she gets really breathy in her upper register and can't almost get there. It was weird. She wouldn't be a perfect fit for Queen either as so much of their music is up in the stratosphere. I do love Lady Gaga, I would just like to see more of the real her!! Talk about costumes and make up, she has had some real doozies. She is a smart lady, establishing a brand that includes singing different genres, TV acting and now movies. Good for her!!

SweetCaroline . I am not dumb.

snifflese wrote: Gaga has awesome songs

snifflese wrote: Gaga has awesome songs and I have been a fan for a long time. I think she and Adam would sound great together as they both have strong voices and the same kind of quirkiness if you will. I mentioned the high notes only because they are prevalent in so many of Queen's songs and not being able to hit them in the same way as the original would be distracting to me. I saw those tenors on TV a while ago and mentioned that I found it distracting that they went into falsetto to hit the higher notes and Icy said I was Bigging AL up (her fav phrase!). It just sounds weird after listening to Freddie and Adam. So her voice is not particularly suited quite a few of the songs. They would definitely have to change the key and it would sound different, which I wouldn't care for. That was why I mentioned it. I was speaking specifically of Gaga singing Queen songs. Otherwise she has a wonderful rich voice. Love her!

snifflese wrote: I thought that was an absolute mess and clearly hadn't been rehearsed much! I actually was extremely surprised at how bad it was and it just made me cringe.

snifflese wrote: Normally his duets are pretty decent, it was just that one recently with Melissa Etheridge that really fell short. I loved the Titanium song from Idol (quite a while ago), loved Girl Crush (maybe my fav) and his recent duet on the Wicked Special was very nice. I think the Etheridge one as was just kind of winging it and that doesn't usually work. His voice really meshed nicely with Leona Lewis as she has a nice strong voice.

snifflese wrote: To each his own! At least I don't need a hearing aid and possibly glasses, since you apparently can't read or hear very well!

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SweetCaroline wrote: Still hoping for a “surprise” appearance of QAL at the Oscars. Adam has been in London so maybe they are planning the Rhapsody Tour and rehearsing for the Oscars? This would be the only time to do it with the movie being nominated and the U.S. tour coming this summer.

snifflese wrote: People can always hope! Nothing wrong with that. I don't believe it will happen, but sometimes there are surprises and changes, so who knows? This would be the perfect year since the movie did so well! If not, there is always the Elvis Special coming up. That ought t be really fun as I was a huge Elvis fan. My first two records were by Elvis back in the day!! I had all his music and saw every one of those schmaltzy movies!!! Now I cringe!!

snifflese wrote: People can always hope! Nothing wrong with that. I don't believe it will happen, but sometimes there are surprises and changes, so who knows? This would be the perfect year since the movie did so well! If not, there is always the Elvis Special coming up. That ought t be really fun as I was a huge Elvis fan. My first two records were by Elvis back in the day!! I had all his music and saw every one of those schmaltzy movies!!! Now I cringe!!

SweetCaroline wrote: Still hoping for a “surprise” appearance of QAL at the Oscars. Adam has been in London so maybe they are planning the Rhapsody Tour and rehearsing for the Oscars? This would be the only time to do it with the movie being nominated and the U.S. tour coming this summer.

Holly2003 wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Still hoping for a “surprise” appearance of QAL at the Oscars. Adam has been in London so maybe they are planning the Rhapsody Tour and rehearsing for the Oscars? This would be the only time to do it with the movie being nominated and the U.S. tour coming this summer.

So you wanted Lambert to do the Superbowl half time show and also open the Oscars? Maybe he could also do the State of the Union speech too? Here's something for you to think about: your world may revolve around Lambert but the world doesn't revolve around him.

SweetCaroline wrote: Holly, Adam’s first international performance with Brian and Roger in Belfast was a closely guarded secret. Just sayin’ it could happen again since no one seems to know how they are replacing Kevin Hart. Whatever happens is okay, of course! Maybe Adele will be singing Don’t Stop Me Now! LOL

SweetCaroline wrote: Holly, Adam’s first international performance with Brian and Roger in Belfast was a closely guarded secret. Just sayin’ it could happen again since no one seems to know how they are replacing Kevin Hart. Whatever happens is okay, of course! Maybe Adele will be singing Don’t Stop Me Now! LOL

snifflese wrote: Holly, it is not Adam, it is Queen (QAL) performing. I think they well deserve a superbowl since their music is perfect stadium music. Some of the acts in recent years are pretty limp. Sports fans don't necessarily listen to some of the groups performing. I just think they are a poor fit for the audience. Country music would be a lot better and rock also. As far as the Oscars, I don't see why that one would be a stretch at all. BR has been a worldwide phenomenon and Queen is still here to perform (excuse me, QAL). Not sure why that would be so odd. But as I said, I don't watch and it makes no never mind to me as far as the Oscars. I did watch the Super Bowl as my team won, but I washed my dishes during halftime as the lineup didn't appeal to me at all. I like Levin, having seen him on the Voice each season and he is funny, but his music is better recorded than live. I just don't understand your remark, other than as a dig at Caroline and Adam fans in general.

Holly2003 wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Holly, Adam’s first international performance with Brian and Roger in Belfast was a closely guarded secret. Just sayin’ it could happen again since no one seems to know how they are replacing Kevin Hart. Whatever happens is okay, of course! Maybe Adele will be singing Don’t Stop Me Now! LOL

I don't care. I don't share your obsession with Lambert. That said, Lambert shouldn't be anywhere near the Oscars. He had nothing to do with the events that inspired the Bo Rap film. He didn't create any of the music and isn't part of the Queen story told in the film. If Q+AL play at the Oscars it will be proof that Lambert really is hanging on to Fred's coat tails.

Holly2003 wrote:

snifflese wrote: Holly, it is not Adam, it is Queen (QAL) performing. I think they well deserve a superbowl since their music is perfect stadium music. Some of the acts in recent years are pretty limp. Sports fans don't necessarily listen to some of the groups performing. I just think they are a poor fit for the audience. Country music would be a lot better and rock also. As far as the Oscars, I don't see why that one would be a stretch at all. BR has been a worldwide phenomenon and Queen is still here to perform (excuse me, QAL). Not sure why that would be so odd. But as I said, I don't watch and it makes no never mind to me as far as the Oscars. I did watch the Super Bowl as my team won, but I washed my dishes during halftime as the lineup didn't appeal to me at all. I like Levin, having seen him on the Voice each season and he is funny, but his music is better recorded than live. I just don't understand your remark, other than as a dig at Caroline and Adam fans in general.

sweetcaroline is only interested in Lambert. If Queen had chosen another singer, sc wouldn't be remotely interested in Bohemian Rhapsody.

SweetCaroline wrote: Holly, I’ve been to see Marc Martel and Jeff Scott Soto singing Queen music, besides Adam with Brian and Roger. Have YOU seen any of them LIVE, or even Freddie himself?

SweetCaroline wrote: Holly, I’ve been to see Marc Martel and Jeff Scott Soto singing Queen music, besides Adam with Brian and Roger. Have YOU seen any of them LIVE, or even Freddie himself?

snifflese wrote: I think you guys are really being unfair. How do YOU know how she feels. You are back to your old tricks, Icy. "Don't forget, AL can do everything *sarcasm*. And you are right. Even Brian's and Roger's world don't revolve around AL. Nor should it. I do think AL needs Brian and Roger a heck of a lot more than they need him." Then you wonder why she isn't happy with you. You are unwilling yourself to give it a rest. As far as who needs whom, I guess I would go with Brian and Roger who say they would never be touring without Adam. Since touring is what seems to make them happy, I would say Adam is integral to QAL. It would be impossible to see it any other way based on Brian and Roger's statement, not what you think is true, even though, Icy, you have no actual insight into what is going on. Your view is only your opinion, as is Caroline's. My opinion is that Brian and Roger can't tour without Adam and Adam wouldn't be able to tour without them, It is a mutual need and they both fulfill their half. It is, if you will, a symbiotic relationship at this point, which requires all three be involved.

SweetCaroline wrote: Holly, I also have the DVDs for Live Aid. Wembley, Budapest, Montreal and the Rainbow. Give what up? Why is this a contest? I’ve said my two biggest regrets is not seeing Queen and Elvis live. I have no regrets being able to see Brian and Roger in 3 QAL shows and will see #4 in August. They are amazing!

SweetCaroline wrote: If you guys don’t want to hear about or talk about Adam, why do you post in the Queen + Adam Lambert threads? Still a mystery after all of these years!

SweetCaroline wrote: Why is this a contest?

snifflese wrote: Nobody has to present their bona fides. You can just start being a fan of The old Queen or QAL or whoever you want, at any time, even if it is last week. You don't have to pass some kind of a lie detector test. This is beyond ridiculous. If you should like QAL (because you just learned of them or saw them) and never have seen Freddie and Queen, then that is fine too. Liking one doesn't mean you have to have always liked the other. We can go round and round about who needs each other more, but Icy, you are always wanting to put Adam in his place, which in your POV is nowhere near Brian and Roger. That just isn't a realistic scenario anymore as the train has left that station. They all are a band together as band mates and they love to perform together. I still think it is a mutually beneficial arrangement, one that brings all of them a lot of joy. So, at this point any fans of QAL don't think of it as Adam hanging on to their coattails to get where he is. This is a hugely successful collaboration and that point is moot. Adam brings as much as any of them because there would be no QAL without a singer. He works extremely hard to earn validation and do an amazing job and that is what most people focus on. As I always say, you are no fan of Adam and QAL, since all you are interested in is Freddie and John sometimes. That is in the past. You can stay there and enjoy what you love, but why bring all this stuff up. It serves no point!

SweetCaroline wrote: snifflese, you are so reasonable and well spoken. Are you a teacher or journalist now or in another life? :-) You are so right that we can love the original Queen band as well as the current collaboration and everything in beteeen because their music is timeless. My ears even perk up every time I Want It All is played on my TV for the Grub Hub commercial.

snifflese wrote: Icy, I am not sure if you even like most of his solo stuff. Since we can question fanhood here, I guess I can say that. I get the feeling that just about anything relating to Adam, you don't like. It is the way you say things and when he is mentioned, there is always something wrong with what he did or said or any number of things. I am not sure if it is just Adam or if you feel the way you do because no one could ever do Freddie's part in the band. I guess we would have to see if you had the same reaction to another person fronting the band. You respond favorably to pretty much any other singer or celebrity that has been mentioned here, but with Adam there is always a negative. That is how I see it and you are more than welcome to you POV, of course, but it bugs me that you pretend to be a fan when to me, you obviously aren't. You can say whatever you feel, but to pretend you like him is what bugs me, because that is not what I see on here. Doesn't make me like you any less, but Adam seems not to be your cup of tea at all and not just with his singing. I don't know if you even realize that, but that is my perception over the years. Not to trying to be negative, but just trying to explain so that you get what I mean. There are lots of Queen fans that want nothing to do with QAL and I respect that. I don't like everything either!

snifflese wrote: Nope, that is fine with me! I think it is really that no one can take Freddie's place and you just aren't feeling it. He is your guy and I respect that.There will never be anyone like him again!! He was amazing for sure.

SweetCaroline wrote: I liked the comment Taylor Hawkns made after singing Under Pressure with Roger last week. He said it was a hard song to sing and I have heard others say that the whole Queen catalogue is difficult vocally. So, from that standpoint alone, Adam should be commended for making what he has been doing with QAL look so effortless and easy. Instead, he is constantly criticized that he sounds like a goat and, oh my, on one tour he mixed up the verses of BoRhap 3 nights in a row. In 2012 I saw Queen Extravaganza with 6 singers performing the various songs. I sat in the audience panicking about how in the world was Adam going to perform ALL of those song later that month in Kiev, Ukraine, He says now that he was nervous at that event but he sure didn’t look like it in front of those 250,000 people in the town square.

SweetCaroline wrote: Brancelli, thanks but I recently decided to not read or respond to anymore of icy’s posts for that very reason that she will generate those 60 pages herself. It’s been happening for years because I am not allowed to express MY views without getting the negative 5,000 word dissertations and accusations from her. She responds to every single word that I post no matter what it is. “Why did I mention Freddie last instead of first” and on and on and on! She hounds me and stalks me like it is her vocation and mission in life. Reasonable about Adam? Wow, she likes when he sang “Save Me!” That’s it! One song! Yikes!

SweetCaroline wrote: he sounds like a goat and, oh my, on one tour he mixed up the verses of BoRhap 3 nights in a row.

snifflese wrote: Icy, why do you keep bringing up the three nights Adam got the lyrics messed up? Nobody is outraged, but you. It seems such a petty thing to have written hundreds of times on here (including all the other issues which result in a book on your part). Brancelli can have his own opinion, but you definitely keep it going by repeating the same tired things that we all know verbatim by now. You have a way of getting in a dig (like the AL is so great, sarcasm thing yesterday) and then throwing stuff at Caroline. You just seem to want to get under her skin and you nit pick at every post. I don't think it is fair to blame her for all of it, as you sure keep it going. You have a comment about every post she makes. Doesn't matter what she says or what links she posts, you are on her immediately, even something as innocuous as a world time clock for an event! I am not sure that constitutes someone who is being fair and balanced. I bet if you stopped that, there would be no more issues here. You say all she posts is Adam stuff, but that is not entirely fair. She says lots of great things about QAL and Freddie and the original Queen. Bottom line, things can be posted and linked about Adam, as he is the A part in QAL. As they say on Adamtopia, scroll is your friend. I read less than 30% of the things there. I honestly don't see you chiming in with anything enlightening here either, another issue you have with Caroline. Your posts are always diatribes against Caroline for the most part. She doesn't want to talk to you at all, so if you ignore her, things would be great!

snifflese wrote: Maybe you could both just forgive and forget. I do so want to get long with you. There is no reason not to as we are all entitled to have our own views, but it would be so nice if the Caroline/Icy thing could just disappear. You could both kind of avoid each other and let a little time go by and then who knows? That would be really great. I honestly doubt she is going to say anything enlightening about Queen and Freddie, as like me, we don't know enough to have opinions about specific details of their lives or the musical catalog. I know she has always said that Freddie is amazing and there will never be another like him. That is just the way I feel about him. I am so thankful that he left all is wonderful music for everyone to enjoy. I would think that would be enough to satisfy anyone. Freddie is greatly loved and appreciated, by me, by Caroline, by you and millions of others. But there is not a whole lot to talk about in that regard, since we are not Queen experts. I really started following QAL because of Idol when he caught my eye and I believe it was the same for her. I know a lot more about that than Queen's past. I know I have always listened and loved their music and I would think that suffices to be a Queen fan. There are many things I love, but I can do without knowing all the trivia. I would hope that would be enough since this is not a straight up Queen thread. No way would I ever post anywhere else on this forum. Just because this isn't moderated doesn't mean it has to devolve in WWE!! And I am done adding fuel to the fire, not much gets accomplished that way apparently!! So, if we can get along, then I imagine you and Caroline could at least avoid one another for a bit? Maybe???

snifflese wrote: That sounds fair to me.