| sammyfrankfreddie96 09.12.2018 23:35 |
Hello all, I have recently discovered 'Queen'. I have been an admirer of Freddie Mercury's voice for a long time, and after seeing a video of his Live Aid performance last month, and seeing the "Bohemian Rhapsody" film (being well aware of the film's...uh..."liberties" taken), I have been hooked on their music since. I usually listen to Sinatra-style music, and I perform in musical theatre as a hobby. So this music is quite out of my usual genres, but Freddie as a singer and 'Queen' as a band is so all-encompassing of practically every style, genre, and taste it was impossible for me not to get hooked. I've purchased the Wembley and Budapest concert albums (I'm drawn to The Magic Tour since it contains the live performances of "Who Wants to Live Forever"), as well as 'The Platinum Collection'. My favorite songs so far are "The Show Must Go On" (this was the song that got me started on Freddie...I even recorded a cover link this is far out of my stylistic ability but I tried anyway, I'm sure its rubbish haha), "Who Wants to Live Forever", "Is This the World We Created", "Radio Gaga", "One Vision" and "Hammer to Fall" and obviously the usual suspects ("Bohemian Rhapsody", "Killer Queen" etc.) I came here to ask: I want to get further into the discography other than the live albums and compilations. Based on my favorites so far, do you all recommend a specific order to start looking into their further discography? Any full albums you recommend over others to start with? Any to avoid (it seems 'Hot Space' may fit that bill)? Or should I just start from the beginning? I really look forward to getting more into 'Queen'. Freddie's voice and performing talent is just incredible. Thanks! |
| matt z 09.12.2018 23:53 |
Congratulations. You're a new Queen fan. I envy your new endeavor. I could remember being a kid and having to save up dough to buy each new (by then OLD CATALOGUE) album and wondering somewhat the same thing. Our was pre internet boom and sometimes all i had to go by were snippets of songs. For instance i never knew which album had the track PRINCES OF THE UNIVERSE because I'd only heard it used on the highlander tv show. And my broke ass (i was a kid) had never seen the film. When looking through cds at tower records or wherever there was no indicator on the sticker that the album A KIND OF MAGIC was from the HiGHLANDER soundtrack. So consequently i "discovered it" late into my album purchases. Also discovered i didn't like the middle bit. I actually prefer the soundtrack helicopter one that leaked recently. Back to point. I'd suggest going with SHEER HEART ATTACK if you're a rock fan. A NIGHT AT THE OPERA if you simply wane too hear a near perfect album. Can't go wrong with any of thosE two. From my POV there can be no wrong "missteps" from QUEEN II to THE GAME Just my two cents. I also think INNUENDO may be one of their greatest albums and that MADE IN HEAVEN is great in its own right ... (*and many will disagree with that. Many loathe MADE IN HEAVEN) congrats on being interested in one of the most amazing eclectic music catalogues there is. |
| Sealion 09.12.2018 23:59 |
Hello and welcome on board! From the songs you listed, I would recommend the later albums, meaning from the 80s on. Maybe you should work your way backwards: starting with Innuendo (or even Made in Heaven). The 70s albums are absolutely great as well, of course. ;) And don’t forget to listen into „Barcelona“, Freddie’s album with Montserrat Caballe. Have fun! There is so much to discover! |
| Blackvy 10.12.2018 04:03 |
matt z wrote: Congratulations. You're a new Queen fan. I envy your new endeavor. I could remember being a kid and having to save up dough to buy each new (by then OLD CATALOGUE) album and wondering somewhat the same thing. Our was pre internet boom and sometimes all i had to go by were snippets of songs. For instance i never knew which album had the track PRINCES OF THE UNIVERSE because I'd only heard it used on the highlander tv show. And my broke ass (i was a kid) had never seen the film. When looking through cds at tower records or wherever there was no indicator on the sticker that the album A KIND OF MAGIC was from the HiGHLANDER soundtrack. So consequently i "discovered it" late into my album purchases. .Same thing happened to me with the track "Friends will be friends"! It was arround 1988, I was still at school and I didn't have very much information to find in which album it was. Welcome aboard sammyfrankfreddie96! :) In my humble opinion, I would suggest going with Queen II. The first time I listened to that album I was a teenager, and it really blew my mind! it made me want to go much further into their discography. Anyway, whatever order you choose, I think you're going to like Queen even more :) |
| runner_70 10.12.2018 05:38 |
Welcome to being a Queen fan. There are 3 rules for your start: Stay away from anything related to a twat called Lamebird Dont read any Postings from sweetcaroline snifflese and rockchic as they are sad glamtarts and no Queenfans. Dont believe any lies Dished by Maylor in this crap movie Good luck |
| Iron Butterfly 10.12.2018 06:31 |
I'd start from the early albums and work my way up to the later albums. Same with the live shows. Any way you do it, is good though. Welcome to QZ :-). |
| rockchic65 10.12.2018 06:42 |
runner_70 wrote: Welcome to being a Queen fan. There are 3 rules for your start: Stay away from anything related to a twat called Lamebird Dont read any Postings from sweetcaroline snifflese and rockchic as they are sad glamtarts and no Queenfans. Dont believe any lies Dished by Maylor in this crap movie Good luckDear god do you ever stop, can't even stay on topic with a new Queen fan who hasn't even mentioned anything other than "Queen". Totally pathetic. |
| runner_70 10.12.2018 07:04 |
Here they already come. So the Warning had a good reason |
| oligneisti 10.12.2018 08:10 |
My advice for using this forum is beware of the grumpy old-timers. Some of them see "Be Gentle, I'm a newbie" as a declaration of war. So, if someone goes on a rant just ignore them if they don't say anything useful. Having said that, I would also advocate using the search function since most topics have already been covered here (but don't revive old discussions) though often you might be more likely to find someone asking a question and then being hounded by the old guard for being a newbie and asking things that have already been covered. Another point is, don't get involved in the pro/anti Adam Lambert "debates" unless you hate yourself and the world. If you want to talk about Adam then use that section (also, just be aware of which section you are posting in, people get annoyed). Ignore Mooghead. Always. |
| rockchic65 10.12.2018 10:45 |
^^^ Sounds pretty spot on. |
| runner_70 10.12.2018 14:38 |
oligneisti wrote: My advice for using this forum is beware of the grumpy old-timers. .Talking about Maylor milking the Queen brand? |
| Michael Scapp 10.12.2018 19:53 |
I love all of Queen's music, I have been a fan since I was five years old. Growing up with Queen in the 70s, my take is that their first seven albums are flawless, and their later stuff, while still good, doesn't really compare. I've realized that those fans that discovered the band in the 80s actually prefer the band's catalog from the 1980s on. What era does a brand new fan like sammyfrankfreddie96 fall into? Someone pretty much familiar with the greatest hits alone. I would suggest going in the direction that appeals to you most. So far you like the later stuff, (The Show Must Go On, Who Wants to Live Forever...). I suggest starting with those albums like A Kind of Magic and Innuendo, and even The Miracle, these are the last three from Queen. No matter what era you're drawn to, just remember that their greatest hits that you hear on the radio are no where near as cool as the songs you don't hear on the radio. I'm interested to see how you will take in the early stuff from the 1970s. For me, they might as well be two different bands. I don't think I would be as big of a fan I am now if they started their career in 1980, for me it's all about 1973-1978 that laid the foundation. Keep us updated on how you feel about the new discoveries you make from their catalog. |
| mike hunt 10.12.2018 21:15 |
He did mention Bo Rhap and Killer Queen, so I'll say start with A Night At The Opera...That album has many styles you may like that Isn't typical Rock, Like Love Of My Life, Lazing On A Sunday and 39...Then If all goes well, Sheer Heart Attack. For the later albums Innuendo and Freddie's Barcelona if you don't mind Opera. |
| mooghead 10.12.2018 21:41 |
" I have been an admirer of Freddie Mercury's voice for a long time, and after seeing a video of his Live Aid performance last month," Erm.. great admirer... seeing the Live Aid performance last month.. |
| sammyfrankfreddie96 10.12.2018 23:26 |
Hey all! Thanks so much for the welcomes and the suggestions. I think I'm going to start with the later albums but include "A Night at the Opera" and go from there! Really looking forward to checking out the "non-greatest hits" gems that await me. I'm also really keen on checking out the "Barcelona" album, I'm a fan of operatic vocalists (big Mario Lanza fan), so the mix of the two voice types is really intriguing. I'll have to restate I've never listened to much rock music so I apologize if I come off ignorant in any future possible discussion haha. In reply to Mooghead: My apologies for my poor wording! To be more specific, I admired Freddie's voice from the songs I had heard but hadn't sought out any further 'Queen' specifically. More so whenever I saw a clip of Freddie singing I was always really blown away by what he could do. I know I was warned to ignore you but I'm hoping to avoid too much negativity and just wanted to explain! |
| anadamfan 10.12.2018 23:47 |
Have fun! And yes, I dare to ask the question: Since you said, you have some musical background and are lso interested in operatic voices - did you take a look at Brian and Roger’s collaboration with Adam Lambert? They are going on tour again next summer. And although some of the old guys here hate him: Lambert has some pipes on him and also a musical background. It sounds, as if you would be able to appreciate him and the show. If you ever get the chance to see them live... I would recommend it! For a taste: Youtube is your friend. ;) Who wants to live forever: link (And now I will duck and run. Have fun with everything Queen!) |
| Catus 11.12.2018 02:38 |
Welcome on board! I just wanted to add that it is really worth listening to the original Queen albums rather than greatest hits compilations - at least to give it a try. This way, you can experience the whole range of emotions, see how these songs were supposed to sound like - in the context of the whole album. Also, if you are interested in watching a Queen documentary, I recommend Days of Our Lives (2011) Enjoy! |
| Makka 11.12.2018 05:28 |
I'd recommend starting from the first albums and listen to the growth and experience as they progress. It is the best way to understand how a band develops. So many gems on their albums but people only listen to the 'hits''. So much to discover. Have fun. |
| runner_70 11.12.2018 05:41 |
anadamfan wrote: Have fun! And yes, I dare to ask the question: Since you said, you have some musical background and are lso interested in operatic voices - did you take a look at Brian and Roger’s collaboration with Adam Lambert? They are going on tour again next summer. And although some of the old guys here hate him: Lambert has some pipes on him and also a musical background. It sounds, as if you would be able to appreciate him and the show. If you ever get the chance to see them live... I would recommend it! For a taste: Youtube is your friend. ;) Who wants to live forever: link (And now I will duck and run. Have fun with everything Queen!)Dont listen to these retarded Clowns trying to convince you that a goat destroying Queensongs is worth any minute |
| spiralstatic 11.12.2018 08:01 |
Hello! I'm going to go on a different tack and recommend beginning with A Day at the Races (and A Night at the Opera, but especially A Day at the Races). It's hard to say a best Queen album as they're all so different, but this is my favourite Queen album and I think it works best as an album overall - it just has such a flow to it nd makes me so happy to listen to it! I know the songs you've mentioned are 80's ones, but with the talk of your interest in musical theatre and Sinatra, I feel like surely you'd enjoy what I feel is Queen at their absolute epitome too (I personally love Queen II era a lot as well, but I'd make not choose that as a starting place for you.) I am one of those people who loves 70's Queen most. I discovered the band as a child when I heard "Heaven for Everyone" & thought "whose voice is THAT!?!" I'd never heard a singer who really had made me feel in the way Freddie did. Other than my Dad who in fact, like you adored Sinatra, my parents did not listen to music at all, so I wasn't introduced to any music via them, but I did play instruments, so Queen were the first *modern*, non-classical music I fell in love with. I used to wish I had a time machine to travel the 70's to see them live. But I'm with you. I adored Queen through my whole teens - listened to, watched all I could & read loads of biographies of Queen and Freddie (some when maybe I was a tad young to be reading really.). I feel like even though I didn't discover the band until Freddie was already gone from us, in some quite deep way they and their music formed me, as in the teenaged and then adult me and they certainly lie quite significantly at the root of much of adult-me's taste. However, I'd not listened to them as much as time went on - just as I discovered more music eventually too. Bohemian Rhapsody which I hadn't been at all excited to see to be honest, as I was really worried about it only involving the most known Freddie in the 80's) sort of brought me home to my love. I'm so grateful to the film for that, and for all the new folk who will discover Queen's magic - I am so excited for you!!! Whatever you choose - enjoy!! xx Here are a few live tracks from A Day At the Races to whet your appetite. My favourite Queen song of all, You Take my Breath Away: link Completely different and a bit o' heavy: Tie Your Mother Down: link The Bohemian Rhapsody few folk have heard, The Millionaire's Waltz: link Somebody to love is on this album! link And last track, Too Torriatte: link |
| spiralstatic 11.12.2018 08:03 |
TEO Torriatte, haha - a pox on spellcheck! Sorry, I can't make the links clickable as for some reason, this forum only lets me do a Quick Reply - if I post on the full "reply" button it won't let me type in the box, boooooo, hissss!!!!! |
| spiralstatic 11.12.2018 08:03 |
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| mike hunt 11.12.2018 13:47 |
spiralstatic wrote: Hello! I'm going to go on a different tack and recommend beginning with A Day at the Races (and A Night at the Opera, but especially A Day at the Races). It's hard to say a best Queen album as they're all so different, but this is my favourite Queen album and I think it works best as an album overall - it just has such a flow to it nd makes me so happy to listen to it! I know the songs you've mentioned are 80's ones, but with the talk of your interest in musical theatre and Sinatra, I feel like surely you'd enjoy what I feel is Queen at their absolute epitome too (I personally love Queen II era a lot as well, but I'd make not choose that as a starting place for you.) I am one of those people who loves 70's Queen most. I discovered the band as a child when I heard "Heaven for Everyone" & thought "whose voice is THAT!?!" I'd never heard a singer who really had made me feel in the way Freddie did. Other than my Dad who in fact, like you adored Sinatra, my parents did not listen to music at all, so I wasn't introduced to any music via them, but I did play instruments, so Queen were the first *modern*, non-classical music I fell in love with. I used to wish I had a time machine to travel the 70's to see them live. But I'm with you. I adored Queen through my whole teens - listened to, watched all I could & read loads of biographies of Queen and Freddie (some when maybe I was a tad young to be reading really.). I feel like even though I didn't discover the band until Freddie was already gone from us, in some quite deep way they and their music formed me, as in the teenaged and then adult me and they certainly lie quite significantly at the root of much of adult-me's taste. However, I'd not listened to them as much as time went on - just as I discovered more music eventually too. Bohemian Rhapsody which I hadn't been at all excited to see to be honest, as I was really worried about it only involving the most known Freddie in the 80's) sort of brought me home to my love. I'm so grateful to the film for that, and for all the new folk who will discover Queen's magic - I am so excited for you!!! Whatever you choose - enjoy!! xx Here are a few live tracks from A Day At the Races to whet your appetite. My favourite Queen song of all, You Take my Breath Away: link Completely different and a bit o' heavy: Tie Your Mother Down: link The Bohemian Rhapsody few folk have heard, The Millionaire's Waltz: link Somebody to love is on this album! link And last track, Too Torriatte: linkI actually Agree with you...I mentioned Sheer Heart Attack, but that album Is more hard Rock...If he loved Zeppelin and the Who that would be my choice, but considering he's not a proper Rock fan I would Start with both A Night At The Opera and A Day At The Races... then Barcelona, even Made In Heaven... |
| little foetus 11.12.2018 18:56 |
If you want some sophisticated and experimental stuff, try Queen II, Sheer Heart Attack, A Night At The Opera, A Day At The Races. If you want some easy simple music, try News Of The World, The Game, The Works or A Kind Of Magic. |
| sammyfrankfreddie96 02.02.2019 01:44 |
Hey guys! Just letting you know I, rather slowly I will admit, started listening through some of Queen's albums. I went through a period of being stuck strictly on live recordings, specifically of The Magic Tour and Rock Montreal. I had been listening to Wembley on repeat as well as Budapest and later Mannheim. I started with 'Innuendo', which was a god damn masterpiece. While Freddie's voice may sound somewhat...'thinner' on the album his vocal range is insane. Shit on of great material on there, specifically the title track. I moved onto 'The Works' and I struggled a bit on this one, I don't like the overall sound of the album's instrumentals. Very..."80s" if that makes sense? The synthesizer sound and such. I much, much prefer the live versions of "Radio Gaga", "Hammer to Fall" etc. But the overall song content was good. "Is This the World We Created?" is a hell of a song, wish he could've replicated that vocal live at least once. I took a pause after my haste with "The Works" and just kept listening to live recordings and some of the same album tracks over and over, then the other day I put on the "Live at The Rainbow '74" video and that shit GRABBED ME. Holy fuck. Freddie's voice (even with the obvious digital alterations) was insane, and all the songs, most of which I hadn't heard of, caught my ear. I immediately went and found all the early 70s albums. "Queen", "Queen II", and "Sheer Heart Attack" blew me the hell away. I never would've expected to have the reaction I did based off of the kind of songs I normally enjoyed from them ('WWTLF' for example). This shit was tight. Can't even explain what it is about those earlier albums but something really got me hooked. I've now listened through "Queen"-all the way to-"News of the World". While I do start to notice a shift musically there's just so much "non-greatest hits" material that I never heard of thats just incredible. I'll definitely have to go back and revisit these, especially the first three. This may be surprising to some of you but the album that made the biggest impression on me was their first, "Queen". Again I'm piss poor at talking about rock music because it isn't "my lane" musically so to speak but damn...DAMN this album kicks major ass. I'm itching to give it another full listen already and its only been a day haha. Gotta get a vinyl copy of this one. OH! Also, obviously I found the 'Barcelona' album (the 2012 orchestrated version) and that was just incredible. I think that album has some of Freddie's most beautiful singing on it. He sounds terrific and somehow his voice mixes perfectly with Montserrat Caballé regardless of their completely different musical worlds. I can't believe 'Exercises In Free Love' is Freddie. He's had enough accolades so I can't say anything new...but god damn what a voice. He really could sing everything. I also really love 'The Great Pretender' single. Well, theres my brief update haha. I've been lurking and reading the threads here consistently since I first joined though! I'll be through with listening to the album discography probably tomorrow so I'll be curious what to listen to next. Do you guys recommend checking out 'Mr. Bad Guy'? Or just stick with the re-worked tracks on 'Made In Heaven'? See ya! PS-Just a quick observation, Idk if this is just the copies I found but the mix on the vocals on some of these songs (or full albums) seem really off...to the point where the vocals are almost completely unintelligible and garbled in the mix and it pisses me off a bit when I'm trying to understand the words haha. Is this just me? Or were they mixed like this originally? |
| bucsateflon 02.02.2019 13:35 |
oligneisti wrote: Ignore Mooghead. Always.yes |
| Mark_Glasgow 07.02.2019 09:44 |
Welcome, there are plenty of knob-jockeys on this site, but you can normally spot them easily enough as they are either a) acting like a complete knob-jockey, or b) claiming to be the true Queen fans because they were 14 years old in 1975 and anyone who discovered Queen after Freddie died is just a glory hunter. But plenty of genuine people on here who love the band and enjoy chatting about them and their music, so enjoy it. |
| mika251 07.02.2019 20:59 |
Hello sammyfrankfreddie96, I'm new here too and I think that I went through the same phases as you. Loved Freddie's voice for ages and I knew all the big hits, but as I was born in 86 (at the day of first gig in Leiden, actually :)), I never listened to their 70's stuff properly. I'm going through a difficult times right now and I tried to remember, what made me happy when I was a teenager and it was - music. Queen. So I opened YouTube and fell in love again. At first there was the 80's stuff, Live Aid, Wembley '86, and it was like having Christmas every day - every day I opened a new fantastic gift - a song, a gig. I stayed awake at night for hours and listened to it. And cried a lot, actually. How I cried... My first catharsis came with Don't try so hard. I practically destroyed the Repeat button listening to this song but it helped me a lot. Since then, things are much better in my life :) So I moved to their older albums and it was unbelievable. And still is. Every day I discover my new favorite song :) Now I'm discovering the jewels. For example White queen - I found it quite boring on the album but then I listened to the Hammersmith gig and I couldn't believe my ears. Fantastic. And Barcelona - I was sparing this album for the end as I knew it will be incredible. It was. I love Golden boy and Guide me home. Queen brought me back to life. I know I'm pathetic but it's true. And thank you for this forum, it helped to discover a lot of wonderful pieces. |
| mika251 07.02.2019 21:45 |
And I have to admit that the biggest surprise for me was how many of Queen songs are much better live. Albums are great, but songs performed on stage have "something" which moves them to upper level. My English is not good enough to describe this "something". White queen is typical - quite good on album but phenomenal on stage, both in Rainbow and Hammersmith. Take my breath away - Hyde Park. Somebody to love, Montreal and Milton Keynes of course. I can't listen to the album version anymore, it's too slow :) And many other songs. I also like many songs which are generally considere as quite bad. Calling all girls is my favourite one (Again - live much better) :) And also Queen ballad version of Freddies solo song Love kills. I don't know why, but I like it much more than the orginal. |
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| The Fairy King 13.02.2019 08:35 |
spiralstatic wrote: TEO Torriatte, haha - a pox on spellcheck! Sorry, I can't make the links clickable as for some reason, this forum only lets me do a Quick Reply - if I post on the full "reply" button it won't let me type in the box, boooooo, hissss!!!!!Yeh, you're right thatsong has TOO much Torratte. XD Love reading your posts. Ontopic: Welcome to the board and congratulations on discovering Queen. I must say that if you discover the band in this day and age, there is a lack of mystery. I remember getting into them in the early nineties without the internet and didn't have the money to get expensive foreign magazines...i had to rely on the record stores and whatever i came across. So sometimes i would just find some album here and there that i had never heard of and would listen to with an open (and often ignorant) mind. :D I loved that ignorance and discovering songs that i heard for example snippets of in The Magic Years documentary. I got the Opera and Races album first on vinyl from a friend of a friend and there's nothing like listening on vinyl first. Dunno, maybe it sounds hipster, but that was just the chronology of it for me. The miracle i got on cassette for the first time (also from an acquaintance) which was fine. I don't remember exactly in what order i got the albums, but i do remember that i didn't mind the randomness of it and i loved discovering those albums in that way. Of course these days you just open Spotify or Youtube and you have it all, but that really kills the mystery for me. Am i old? Perhaps. xD I am rambling on like an old person...what i'm trying to say is try to add a little mystery and don't do it chronologically. Maybe make a fun little scavenger thing out of it and buy stuff at second hand stores, whatever you can find and really invest in listening, nay consuming the albums. :D When i got an album back in the day, that album was my life for a while. Ok i'm done. NURSE! |