QueenZone discussion #1528830

PrimeJiveUSA wrote: He's always been a true-blue fan. He narrated the American special promoting the Innuendo album when Queen couldn't even get arrested there.

mooghead wrote: "He also performed at the Freddie Tribute in 1992" So did Seal.

Bullub wrote: Perhaps Brian's resentment at Axl

SweetCaroline wrote: ..... as the greatest frontman and band: link

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Bullub wrote: Perhaps Brian's resentment at Axl

Why would Brian resent Axl?

Holly2003 wrote: Bit more about it at Blabbermouth but it's a shitty website with pop-ups so I'll post the text of the article below. It's from 2011. ========================================================================================= QUEEN guitarist Brian May recently answered a number of reader-submitted questions for the April 2011 issue of U.K.'s Uncut magazine. When asked how he got involved in the making of GUNS N' ROSES "Chinese Democracy" album (in 1999, May recorded a guitar solo for GN'R track "Catcher N' The Rye", which appears on "Chinese Democracy", but his efforts were subsequently removed from the final album version of the song), May replied, "I can't remember when I first met Axl [Rose, GN'R frontman], but we invited them to play the [1992] Freddie [Mercury] tribute. They did a fantastic job, and also donated a lot of money to the Mercury Phoenix Trust. Subsequent to that, my solo band supported GN'R on tour and we got on very well." He continued, "People think of Axl as difficult, but he was always very attentive to me. "When they were making that album, after God-knows-how-many years, he was talking to [QUEEN's old producer] Roy Thomas Baker, who was doing some production for them at the time, and they came up with the idea of contacting me to help them work out a direction. I flew out to meet him and he played me pretty much the whole album. We had a long night, talking, thinking, figuring out potential directions, and then I had a couple of days just trying things out. I think I played on two-and-a-half tracks, but they didn't end up using my parts. They used about 10 guitarists subsequent to that! I have rough mixes of these tracks somewhere in my archive, but I'm not going to let anyone listen to them, out of loyalty to Axl. "It was fun, to throw something in there to help out a friend." Rose explained the decision to keep Brian's track off the album by saying, "There's a few reasons, and none of them all that big and definitely not in spite or to slight anyone. First off, obviously I knew people liked the song, but the Brian appreciation really only showed up in force publicly after we had moved on in GUNS. In fact, not many seemed to care and most comments were aimed at why Slash, in their opinions, should be here. Brian's solo itself is a personal fave of mine and I really couldn't understand, as he's such a rock legend, why it wasn't openly appreciated more at the time. In actuality, all that feel and emotion referred to now had a lot to do with Sean [Beavan, one of the producers who worked on 'Chinese Democracy'] and I and the parts I chose out of Brian's different runs, versions, practice runs, etc., to make sure we had those elements in one version. It's entirely constructed from edits based around one specific note Brian hit in a throwaway take. And though Brian seems to have warmed a bit to it, at least publicly, he was unfortunately none too pleased at the time with our handiwork. I remember looking at Brian standing to my left and him staring at the big studio speakers a bit aghast saying, 'But that's not what I played.' Sean Beavan and I were not in any way trying to mess with Brian, we just did what we do and then try and do our best to stand up for our decisions."

Holly2003 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Bullub wrote: Perhaps Brian's resentment at Axl

Why would Brian resent Axl?

I don't know if he does but if it's true it might be for this: link

IanR wrote: That's how Brian does a lot of his own solos: makes a composite from various takes (see Back Chat).

oligneisti wrote: Understandable that he is angry for being left out of Chinese Democracy, an album that will live... at least in infamy. Almost as bad as Freddie missing out on Thriller.

The Real Wizard wrote:

oligneisti wrote: Understandable that he is angry for being left out of Chinese Democracy, an album that will live... at least in infamy. Almost as bad as Freddie missing out on Thriller.

Nah, not comparable. Chinese Democracy is quite possibly the biggest flop of all time in rock, considering the build-up and what the end product actually was.

oligneisti wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

oligneisti wrote: Understandable that he is angry for being left out of Chinese Democracy, an album that will live... at least in infamy. Almost as bad as Freddie missing out on Thriller.

Nah, not comparable. Chinese Democracy is quite possibly the biggest flop of all time in rock, considering the build-up and what the end product actually was.

I can't blame you for not getting my joke, it wasn't very well worded. I meant that it was nothing like Thriller in terms of success and influence.

The Real Wizard wrote:

oligneisti wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

oligneisti wrote: Understandable that he is angry for being left out of Chinese Democracy, an album that will live... at least in infamy. Almost as bad as Freddie missing out on Thriller.

Nah, not comparable. Chinese Democracy is quite possibly the biggest flop of all time in rock, considering the build-up and what the end product actually was.

I can't blame you for not getting my joke, it wasn't very well worded. I meant that it was nothing like Thriller in terms of success and influence.

Ahh. Thank god you were joking then.