QueenZone discussion #1528810
Fan made alternate tracklistings for their albums
| Dr. Robert 28.11.2018 02:44 |
Let's say you had the authority to sequence their albums. Remove and add tracks from the same sessions, mess with the song order, and so forth. How would you resequence their albums, if you would at all? For example, here's my alternate tracklist for The Miracle: Breakthru Khashoggi's Ship The Miracle I Want it All My Life Has Been Saved The Invisible Man All God's People Scandal Rain Must Fall Too Much Love Will Kill You Hang on In There Was it All Worth It? Has anyone else got something similar? (And for the love of God, don't take this as criticism of them. I love the original albums, and don't think they should be "fixed". It's just a nice thought experiment.) |
| Blackvy 28.11.2018 02:56 |
I like your alternative tracklist, I would personally find very difficult to separate Party from Kashoggi's ship, But then, any order is fine by me :) |
| Dr. Robert 28.11.2018 03:07 |
The version of Khashoggi's Ship on Deep Cuts III has a standalone start, and works pretty good on its own! Try it out yourself, ahahahah |
| *goodco* 28.11.2018 04:39 |
Side One Chinese Torture (optional) The Invisible Man The Miracle Let Your Heart Rule Your Head (or Brian's TMLWKY) I Want It All Hang On In There Side Two Breakthru' Stealin' Scandal My Life Has Been Saved Was It All Worth It My wife and I listened to this on a trip to DC today. 'I Want It All' was the first CD single I ever purchased. Having listened to it dozens of times by the time the LP was released, 'Hang On In There' had to come next. This has been my version since I purchased the 'Breakthru' and 'Scandal' 45s in the mid 90s. And it has been 'my' most listened to Queen album since. I love the guitar solo in 'Rain Must Fall', but it sounds like a Jackson 5 song. The programmed percussion ruins 'My Baby Does Me'. A simple wisk would have been more appropriate. 'Fun It' was the first track I deleted when recording one of their albums. From that point on, none of their releases went 'unscathed' (some more than others). 'Delilah' and 'You Don't Fool Me' were the only ones removed from the following albums....oh, and Track 13 was shortened considerably. I've done it to a couple of Beatle LPs as well. It's all a matter of personal tastes. |
| Blackvy 28.11.2018 04:55 |
Good advice Dr. Robert! ;) and great tracklist, *goodco*! |
| Nathan H 28.11.2018 08:08 |
1. Include Mad The Swine where it was intended on the first album between Great King Rat and My Fairy King. If you listen to the song you'll realise the first word of the song was cut to make the version a standalone so it would remove the drum roll from Great King Rat. 2. Replace The Loser In The End with See What A Fool I've Been so then you've got Brian songs on one side and Freddie on the other. 3. On The Game album, swap Dragon Attack with Don't Try Suicide and then you've got Freddie and John songs on one side and Roger and Brian songs on the other. But you could do this with most albums but I think it works best on The Game album. 4. The Works should've been a double album as there was enough material. The one disc should've had a "robot" theme and the other "man" as fits within the heavy amount of synthesisers. 5. A Kind Of Magic should've swapped tracklisting around and include Forever at the end. Example tracklisting: Side A: One Vision Gimme The Prize (Kurgan's Theme) Princes Of The Universe Pain Is So Close To Pleasure Who Wants To Live Forever Side B: A Kind Of Magic Don't Lose Your Head One Year Of Love Friends Will Be Friends Forever Perhaps it shouldn't have the only three 'rockers' to open the album as it doesn't leave any for the rest of the album. (I've never understood why Princes Of The Universe closed the album instead of Who Wants To Live Forever because a quiet track opening a side doesn't work well in my opinion). Definitely have Who Wants To Live Forever and Forever as album side closers (perhaps the latter hidden). 6. The Miracle should've included Too Much Love Will Kill You on it because just that one song could make me rank that album a lot higher. It should've been a double album given the amount of material the group worked on in the archives. |
| dysan 28.11.2018 09:21 |
Kind of a bugbear for me. I think the 'quirks' in the tracklistings make the albums what they are. Side A of ANATO is wonderful - Side A of ADATR doesn't please me. But the individual tracks are fine. Likewise, a good single flipside is exactly that. Whose to say if HOIT was on The Miracle it wouldn't be considered a weak track on there? It would change the colour of the record. What makes POTU is that it's hidden at the end of AKOM and not in a more prominent position on the record, likewise WWTLF is the no-brainer last track on the album but for some reason starts side 2. These days I just shuffle Q1 through AKOM (having removed the tracks that don't help me strut through town) and I'm happy enough. If listen to an album from start to end it's usually for personal nostalgia reasons like if I visit my mums house and sit in the garden on a sunny day. But that's just me :) |
| Dim 28.11.2018 11:49 |
Radio gaga Tear it up It's a hard life killing time (has Freddie backing vocals) Love kills Man on Prowl Machines I want to break free There must be more to life than this (without Micheal Jackson). I go crazy Keep passing the open windows Hammer to fall Is this the world are we created? Let me in your heart again has some similarities with Hammer to fall. Also I believe that The Miracle needs remixing as well Queen debut and Jazz. The instrumental version of the Party from the Eye game is very good and interesting. Also I think that Breakthru should have real bass in all the song not in few parts, while the invisible man should have better drum sound and syth bass like the early demo not real bass and samples. Moreover better drum sound on the Miracle song. |
| dysan 28.11.2018 13:01 |
It was the 80s dude. |
| Dr. Robert 28.11.2018 21:14 |
About "Too Much Love Will Kill You", on the original sequence of The Miracle, it was supposed to go in between "I Want it All" and "The Invisible Man", but was cut due to some issues with the other songwriters, if I'm not mistaken. |
| Nathan H 28.11.2018 21:55 |
Dr. Robert wrote: About "Too Much Love Will Kill You", on the original sequence of The Miracle, it was supposed to go in between "I Want it All" and "The Invisible Man", but was cut due to some issues with the other songwriters, if I'm not mistaken.Yeah I knew that. I said about the song earlier because I wish the issue was sorted! |
| Ziggy_SD 29.11.2018 05:47 |
Bit of a pointless exercise since Queen had a stellar understanding of track sequencing and how to tell a story with their albums. The only two albums that come to mind with haphazard running orders were Queen Rocks and Forever (the compilations). |
| dysan 29.11.2018 08:07 |
.. kind of like the sound of each album too. They are an artifact of their age and the environment they were recorded. There seems to be a need for all the albums to have a universal sound. It's natural you have the muffled early record, the weird rocky one, and the 4 bad 80s ones in a bands canon. |
| Dr Magus 29.11.2018 12:29 |
My Sheer Heart Attack 1 Brighton Rock 2 Killer Queen 3 Tenement Funster 4 The Call 5 Flick Of The Wrist 6 Lily Of The Valley 7 Now I'm Here 8 In The Lap Of The Gods 9 Stone Cold Crazy 10 Dear Friends 11 Bring Back That Leroy Brown 12 Flash 13 In The Lap Of The Gods...Revisited |
| matt z 29.11.2018 14:52 |
My THE WORKS alternate edit 1. Radio Ga Ga 2. Machines (or back to humans) 3. Love Kills 4. It's a Hard Life 5. I Go Crazy 6. I Want To Break Free 7. Is this the world we created...? |
| dysan 29.11.2018 15:34 |
My alternate Made In Heaven goes: . |
| Nathan H 29.11.2018 17:20 |
I also think that on Hot Space they should've put Cool Cat on Side A as track 5 and move Action This Day on Side B perhaps between Put Out The Fire and Life Is Real. This is so you've got the funky/disco songs on one side and the normal/rock songs on the other. |
| matt z 30.11.2018 01:03 |
dysan wrote: My alternate Made In Heaven goes: .I don't understand the MIH Hate. It's a great living tribute. The musical parts are pretty excellent as well, somehow making a cohesive bit (*though i always skip IWBTLY) But dude. ....not even a "YEAH!" ;) |
| dysan 30.11.2018 08:24 |
Yeah is in microcosm all that I find wrong with MIH |
| Dr. Robert 30.11.2018 15:52 |
My alternate Jazz goes like this: Side One: 01 Let Me Entertain You 02 Fat Bottomed Girls 03 Bycicle Race 04 Coming Soon 05 If You Can't Beat Them 06 Dead on Time Side Two: 07 Mustapha 08 Dreamer's Ball 09 In Only Seven Days 10 Fun It 11 Leaving Home Ain't Easy 12 Jealousy 13 Don't Stop Me Now |
| dysan 30.11.2018 16:15 |
The problem with adding unheard out takes is we generally can't guess at what they sounded like. I love Coming Soon - but the early studio jam is pants. *add WATC to ANATO* |
| dysan 30.11.2018 16:15 |
The problem with adding unheard out takes is we generally can't guess at what they sounded like. I love Coming Soon - but the early studio jam is pants. *add WATC to ANATO* |
| *goodco* 03.12.2018 04:45 |
How many alternates can one have for four decades for 'Hot Space'? This many Original Staying Power Dancer Let's Get Crazy Body Language Action This Day Put Out The Fire Life Is Real Calling All Girls Las Pallabras de Amor Cool Cat Under Pressure and then.................xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. Flash Dancer Let's Get Crazy Body Language Action This Day Put Out The Fire Life Is Real Calling All Girls Las Pallabras de Amor Cool Cat Under Pressure and....then.....xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Flash Dancer Let's Get Crazy Cool Cat Action This Day Put Out The Fire Life Is Real Calling All Girls Las Pallabras de Amor Under Pressure The Hero there is more?????xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Under Pressure Dancer Let's Get Crazy Cool Cat Action This Day Put Out The Fire Life Is Real Calling All Girls Las Pallabras de Amor The Hero xxxx the Freddie solo album is released, so. xxxx Made In Heaven Let Me Out Man Made Paradise ….More To Life Let's Get Crazy My Love Is Dangerous Put Out The Fire Life Is Real Calling All Girls Las Pallabras de Amor Cool Cat Under Pressure and then one tries to stay somewhat with the LPxxxxxx Flash Under Pressure Dancer Let's Get Crazy Cool Cat Action This Day Put Out The Fire Life Is Real Calling All Girls Las Pallabras de Amor Future Management The Hero xxxx going with what was somewhat with the timeline, and would have been the best for the Queen 'sound'....xxx The Dark Man Made Paradise …..More To Life Let's Get Crazy She Blows Hot And Cold Action This Day Put Out The Fire Life Is Real Calling All Girls Las Pallabras de Amor Cool Cat Under Pressure oh well |
| *goodco* 03.12.2018 06:20 |
THE WORKS Side One Tear It Up Man On Fire It's A Hard Life (extended version) I Go Crazy Man On The Prowl Side Two Love Kills Let Me In Your Heart Again I Want To Break Free (45) Keep Passing The Open Windows Hammer To Fall (extended version) Is This The World We Created...? |
| *goodco* 03.12.2018 06:22 |
A KIND OF MAGIC Side One One Vision A Kind Of Magic One Year Of Love Friends Will Be Friends (extended version) Side Two Princes Of The Universe Just One Life Gimme The Prize (minus soundtrack dialogue) Don't Lose Your Head Who Wants To Live Forever Forever |
| *goodco* 03.12.2018 06:25 |
I have listened to Queen I with 'Mad The Swine' inserted on Side One, and 'See What A Fool I've Been' at the end of Side One of Queen II replacing 'Loser In The End'...and..they both make sense, but they just don't work for me. Too Pavlovian, I guess, but good options. |