QueenZone discussion #1521646

runner_70 wrote: How do you feel about Roger and Brian carrying on as Queen without Freddie and John? “Well, when Fred died, John was like: ‘That’s it, there’s no more Queen.’ Brian and Roger wanted to carry on in the various guises of Queen, and I understand why they want to do that. I’m not sure that’s the right thing to do. They can still be musicians without using the Queen name. But the fame game – people like to keep it up as long as they can.” Many Queen fans would agree with you: no Freddie, no Queen. “That’s most poignant thing. After Fred died, you can never recreate that, no matter what guise it is. I saw the Queen + Paul Rodgers thing, and he’s one of my favourite singers, but it was completely the wrong fit. And as for Adam Lambert, I’m sure he can sing, but it’s a bit like some Vegas cabaret in a way. You know, if you never saw the band, well, here’s half the band. But it’s not for me.” I disagree with PR but agree on the AL thing. He is so damn spot on. No wonder Brian hated his book and described him as an "Ex Roadie"

rockchic65 wrote: And your point is? He's entitled to his opinion, the same as you but that's all it is, an opinion, we all have them, they aren't fact though.

runner_70 wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: And your point is? He's entitled to his opinion, the same as you but that's all it is, an opinion, we all have them, they aren't fact though.

MY point is that even those that have been close to Queen hate this awful collaboration and think That Maylor are shameful to drag the QUeen name into the dirt

flash00. wrote: It's all about fame and money money money!!! Absolutely bollox about they do it out of their love for music etc Brian and Roger do it out of greed as they don't make new music and most Queen fans know this. Good on Peter Hince for his honesty. Just check Roger in interviews in later years he can't be bothered even though he knows it's fans who read or listen to those kind of music interviews and Brian just moan's and kisses celebrities backsides, so think about it when they both say it's for the love of music. So the days of four young lads touring in the back of a Ford Transit van and having an amazing time is long gone.. Roger talks about the "brand" these days not band I think I last heard the word brand by the Kardashians so think about it. Don't worry about Brian and Roger they are not Queen and they won't drop AL until they are done with him.

flash00. wrote: It's all about fame and money money money!!! Absolutely bollox about they do it out of their love for music etc Brian and Roger do it out of greed as they don't make new music and most Queen fans know this. Good on Peter Hince for his honesty. Just check Roger in interviews in later years he can't be bothered even though he knows it's fans who read or listen to those kind of music interviews and Brian just moan's and kisses celebrities backsides, so think about it when they both say it's for the love of music. So the days of four young lads touring in the back of a Ford Transit van and having an amazing time is long gone.. Roger talks about the "brand" these days not band I think I last heard the word brand by the Kardashians so think about it. Don't worry about Brian and Roger they are not Queen and they won't drop AL until they are done with him.

Sunshine wrote: Oh man, come on. 'The days of four young lads touring in the back of a Ford Transit van and having an amazing time is long gone'. Really?? Yes of course they are gone, it is history. No one knows the true motivation. Maybe it's fame, maybe it's fortune, maybe it's the joy of playing, maybe it's an artistic need, maybe it's the touring itself, who know? And what is wrong about doing it for a mixture of above reasons? It's their company, Queen Inc. And yes of course, it IS a brand. What's the shock about that? Compare it with Apple: it would be also ridicilous to say *the days are over where Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak were building computers in their garage and having an amazing time are long gone". Jobs died, the brand continued and making great products. If you don't like it, perfect, then do not buy an Apple product. That's fine, no one tells you that you need to. One of the founding members from Queen died, so that means they should quit everything they built up together? Just let everyone do whatever they want. Peter Hince it looks like Las Vegas cabaret. Yes that is his opinion. It's even true, I agree. But so what? If Freddie would have lived, they might have been going in the same direction. Or not, who knows? It doesn't matter. Just stop comparing Queen with Freddie Mercury, it is utterly useless. And portraying Brian and Roger as greeding pigs that are only here to take money from you is nonsense as well. If you don't like the set up, then do not focus on it and see another band. Perfectly fine. No one tells you that you need to like it. Personally I see it as an opportunity to see a great live act with great songs and great musicianship.

popy wrote: In an audio interview after Freddie died, Roger said that he and John will carry on with Queen either Brian joins them or not. It was posted in the forum a few months ago. Let's see if i can find it.

runner_70 wrote:

popy wrote: In an audio interview after Freddie died, Roger said that he and John will carry on with Queen either Brian joins them or not. It was posted in the forum a few months ago. Let's see if i can find it.

I smell bullshit reading this especially concerning John

bucsateflon wrote: John Deacon got upset when BM came back and trashed all John's work on "Made in heaven" and RT didn't back him up. That's why he eventually left Queen. Probably BM and RT didn't respect JD because he indulged and fed Freddie's musical downwards spiral into inferior music, made using the Queen brand, I'm only speculating here.... also John Deacon is the unfaithful one to Freddie's work as he wanted to change and cut BohRap to a more commercial appeal. Glad to see this is also depicted in the upcoming movie. As to roadie Hince... Somewhere down the line (before his book) he wasn't a member of the remaining Queen production family, resentment is evident. Probably not being asked to be involved with Queen+ and their projects/tour, upset him. Just speculating again. Also BM and RT continuing under Queen name, they are entitled to do so considering how "Queen" was born as a band. The part about the "cabaret screecher" called Adam Lambert, well he is just a compromise like the "Hot Space" album was or many other thing in Queen.

runner_70 wrote:

popy wrote: In an audio interview after Freddie died, Roger said that he and John will carry on with Queen either Brian joins them or not. It was posted in the forum a few months ago. Let's see if i can find it.

I smell bullshit reading this especially concerning John

bucsateflon wrote: John Deacon got upset when BM came back and trashed all John's work on "Made in heaven" and RT didn't back him up. That's why he eventually left Queen. Probably BM and RT didn't respect JD because he indulged and fed Freddie's musical downwards spiral into inferior music, made using the Queen brand, I'm only speculating here.... also John Deacon is the unfaithful one to Freddie's work as he wanted to change and cut BohRap to a more commercial appeal. Glad to see this is also depicted in the upcoming movie. As to roadie Hince... Somewhere down the line (before his book) he wasn't a member of the remaining Queen production family, resentment is evident. Probably not being asked to be involved with Queen+ and their projects/tour, upset him. Just speculating again. Also BM and RT continuing under Queen name, they are entitled to do so considering how "Queen" was born as a band. The part about the "cabaret screecher" called Adam Lambert, well he is just a compromise like the "Hot Space" album was or many other thing in Queen.

Vocal harmony wrote: Wrong about John and Ratty After Made in Heaven John went on to record Only The Good Die Young with Brian and Roger, he played a low key charity event with Roger as Queen, he played with Brian and Roger fronted by Elton John in Paris Peter Hince (Ratty) retired from the road, being a roadie a the end of The Works tour. Freddie asked him to come back for The Magic tour which he did but didn't enjoy. At the end of it he went back to his photography business

runner_70 wrote: Also Bullshit. John was the closest member to Freddie. John did not want to cut BT short. As we all know the movie is not historically correct. Which will be my main gripe with the flick as some might take everything for real. And which downward Spiral in Freddies music do you mean????

runner_70 wrote:

popy wrote: In an audio interview after Freddie died, Roger said that he and John will carry on with Queen either Brian joins them or not. It was posted in the forum a few months ago. Let's see if i can find it.

I smell bullshit reading this especially concerning John

goose44 wrote: Runner is a moron cunt. When you get caught spewing your bs and denounced, just take it like a man.

popy wrote:

runner_70 wrote:

popy wrote: In an audio interview after Freddie died, Roger said that he and John will carry on with Queen either Brian joins them or not. It was posted in the forum a few months ago. Let's see if i can find it.

I smell bullshit reading this especially concerning John

Hear all the interview. Hear what Roger responds when is asked about touring again. Here's your bullshit. Also Roger makes some not so nice remarks about Brian. Joining the dots, John's retirement it's not so clear as Roger and Brian try to make it since 1997. I think we don't know the full story, and probably never will.

Mr Right wrote: Peter Hince tells it how it is and of course if this story is true about him disliking AL then he is correct. He worked closely with Freddie for many years and he knows when something does not work, indeed Lambert is vegas cabaret spot on and Brian has snubbed him by saying he never liked his book, well i wonder why that was eh? Mr May hates the truth and Mr Hince is honest as daylight. I have Read Peters book and it is excellent and honest as it can be.

bucsateflon wrote:

Vocal harmony wrote: Wrong about John and Ratty After Made in Heaven John went on to record Only The Good Die Young with Brian and Roger, he played a low key charity event with Roger as Queen, he played with Brian and Roger fronted by Elton John in Paris Peter Hince (Ratty) retired from the road, being a roadie a the end of The Works tour. Freddie asked him to come back for The Magic tour which he did but didn't enjoy. At the end of it he went back to his photography business

There is nothing wrong about what I said about John...and Hince. You dumb imbecile....

bucsateflon wrote: . . . .,. . there were job positions other then roadie. . . . .

popy wrote: Hear all the interview. Hear what Roger responds when is asked about touring again. Here's your bullshit. Also Roger makes some not so nice remarks about Brian. Joining the dots, John's retirement it's not so clear as Roger and Brian try to make it since 1997. I think we don't know the full story, and probably never will.

Mr Right wrote: Peter Hince tells it how it is and of course if this story is true about him disliking AL then he is correct. He worked closely with Freddie for many years and he knows when something does not work, indeed Lambert is vegas cabaret spot on and Brian has snubbed him by saying he never liked his book, well i wonder why that was eh? Mr May hates the truth and Mr Hince is honest as daylight. I have Read Peters book and it is excellent and honest as it can be.

Dr Magus wrote: I thought they trawled the reality shows cos whoever they picked would do what he was told, unlike Paul Rodgers who was more of an equal and had his own legacy.

snifflese wrote: I would trust Brian and Roger before I listened to any of you. Not quite sure why you people always think they are lying. I assume it has something to do with the fact that what they say doesn't agree with your erroneous misconceptions. I tend to believe the people who are the ones making the decisions, not folks who have no knowledge of Queen's business.

paola g wrote: No doubt : It's always a matter of personal opinion on what Queen were and are in our days. In my opinion , though, after Freddie's death, there were three options for the band: 1) stop producing and performing as Queen (see Led Zeppeling's choice) 2) start a new path either as solo artists or as a group with the members stil interested in working and creating music together 3) continue to perform as Queen the old repertoire adapted to new formats, replacing Freddie and Deacon with artists suitable for this project. Said that, we can argue for ever about which, in our personal feeling, would have been the best choice. As a matter of fact, Brian May and Rodger Taylor opted for being still the old Queen restyled in new formats.

paola g wrote: . . . . . there were three options for the band: 1) stop producing and performing as Queen (see Led Zeppeling's choice). . . . .

Vocal harmony wrote:

paola g wrote: . . . . . there were three options for the band: 1) stop producing and performing as Queen (see Led Zeppeling's choice). . . . .

Not true. Queen found a workable arrangement. Les Zeppelin didn't, despite several attempts. They reformed for Live Aid, The Atlantic records gig and the o2 gig. But they also had several rehearsal periods with other drummers and even a drum machine! Through the 80's and 90's. All these attempts fell through but it wasn't down to your suggestion that they made a decision not to work As Led Zep.

runner_70 wrote:

Vocal harmony wrote:

paola g wrote: . . . . . there were three options for the band: 1) stop producing and performing as Queen (see Led Zeppeling's choice). . . . .

Not true. Queen found a workable arrangement. Les Zeppelin didn't, despite several attempts. They reformed for Live Aid, The Atlantic records gig and the o2 gig. But they also had several rehearsal periods with other drummers and even a drum machine! Through the 80's and 90's. All these attempts fell through but it wasn't down to your suggestion that they made a decision not to work As Led Zep.

The Atlantic gig was the O2 gig you clueless cunt