| musicland munich 30.09.2018 21:00 |
It seems like that the PR campaign is getting a little bit hotter. Obviously print space was booked in several magazines. On this one things are gathered up the superficial way. In short : Freddie left the band for his solo stuff - comes back before a real band split and managed them, despite he is diagnosed with AIDS, to perform at Live Aid. I'am speechless again. |
| Donovan 30.09.2018 21:47 |
Nice to see! Looking forward to this film, and it opening up Queen discussions with friends who aren't hardcore fans! |
| The Real Wizard 30.09.2018 22:22 |
musicland munich wrote: In short : Freddie left the band for his solo stuff - comes back before a real band split and managed them, despite he is diagnosed with AIDS, to perform at Live Aid.Yep - classic Hollywood. Few biopics are fully accurate. But this would be a hell of a case of revisionist history if that's the case. Let's wait to see the film. |
| Saint Jiub 30.09.2018 23:02 |
This "revisionist history" was allowed by Brian "We need to get experimental" May? |
| The Real Wizard 30.09.2018 23:31 |
We'd need to be invited to meetings and see legal documents before we can know whose sway is bigger - the band or Hollywood. |
| musicland munich 01.10.2018 04:03 |
Just checked that. It seems to be the "official" PR version. link Bohemian Rhapsody is a foot-stomping celebration of Queen, their music and their extraordinary lead singer Freddie Mercury. Freddie defied stereotypes and shattered convention to become one of the most beloved entertainers on the planet. The film traces the meteoric rise of the band through their iconic songs and revolutionary sound. They reach unparalleled success, but in an unexpected turn Freddie, surrounded by darker influences, shuns Queen in pursuit of his solo career. Having suffered greatly without the collaboration of Queen, Freddie manages to reunite with his bandmates just in time for Live Aid. While bravely facing a recent AIDS diagnosis, Freddie leads the band in one of the greatest performances in the history of rock music. Queen cements a legacy that continues to inspire outsiders, dreamers and music lovers to this day. |
| Voice of Reason 2018 01.10.2018 10:20 |
Thanks for that article Musicland. Yes, it's consistent with the official synopis that came out a short while ago. I am seriously worried that the movie is going to suck big time based on: The official synopsis; The trailers; Peter's session with the Dutch fans; The soundtrack. |
| Donovan 01.10.2018 13:33 |
It may suck based on what you need from the film. Casual fans I know are pumped, and I'm excited for them! |
| Nitroboy 01.10.2018 14:13 |
The Real Wizard wrote: We'd need to be invited to meetings and see legal documents before we can know whose sway is bigger - the band or Hollywood.Taking into consideration, how long this project has been under way, I'm of the belief that it's the former. |
| rockchic65 01.10.2018 14:29 |
Nitroboy wrote:Based on things Brian said near the end of filming I'd say Hollywood. This is a quote from him back in March.The Real Wizard wrote: We'd need to be invited to meetings and see legal documents before we can know whose sway is bigger - the band or Hollywood.Taking into consideration, how long this project has been under way, I'm of the belief that it's the former. "This is an interesting experience for Roger and me because we have so little power. To get the movie made you basically sign away all your control." link |
| runner_70 01.10.2018 15:24 |
This shapes up to be a real Disaster |
| MisterCosmicc 01.10.2018 15:59 |
Paul Prenter always told guys he wanted to make babies with them |
| The Real Wizard 01.10.2018 16:16 |
rockchic65 wrote: Based on things Brian said near the end of filming I'd say Hollywood. This is a quote from him back in March. "This is an interesting experience for Roger and me because we have so little power. To get the movie made you basically sign away all your control." linkSo they mortgaged some historical accuracy for longevity. A fair trade off. That's the nature of biopics - nobody can escape it. |
| FlorianS 01.10.2018 17:20 |
Well it's a Hollywood movie, not a history lesson. As long as the music will be loud and the movie itself is diverting I am happy. For everything else we have Magic Years, Champions of the World, The Great Pretender, the untold story etc. It's just a bloody movie, but people here will go in riot for every little snipped which is not the official story. |
| Voice of Reason 2018 01.10.2018 17:40 |
You make good points. And it's nice to have a bit of debate. The main thing I need is dramatisations of the key events in the group's history. And I'd like them to be accurate and give us new insights. First meetings, recordings of key songs, was there stress when recording Queen II as they needed a hit or else they could have folded? Was there stress before The Works as they needed a hit. Why decide to record in the US for the first time? as a few examples. And how did the others react when Freddie told them he wanted to be called Mercury! I need it to be well-acted and a quality production. I don't understand the need to recreate Live Aid in full. We can watch it on youTube anytime we like. I need the dramatisations. What I feel so far is, as well as the massive liberties we have discussed, is - the recordings of Bo Rhap and Rock You played for laughs, the dramatisations we have seen not adding to what we know, a lot of tv-actors with a tv-movie feel to the trailers, Brian's songs over represented on the soundtrack. THAT offical synopsis! I know you are excited for casual fans. I hope you are ready for all family, friends and colleagues you know asking you 'So Freddie knew he had aids before Live Aid?' and you having to say 'No, he didn't'. PS - On a lighter note - Do you think the crowdsurfing scene was inspired by Mamma Mia 2?!! |
| Golden Salmon 01.10.2018 17:50 |
I hope this is the first one in a trilogy: - Bohemian Rhapsody: The Freddieship of the Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody: The Two Tossers + Paul Rodgers - Bohemian Rhapsody: Return of the Queen + Adam Lambert *runs* |
| Wiley 01.10.2018 21:36 |
With the movie spanning around 15-16 years or so it is impossible to represent all the points mentioned by several people in this post in a single, coherent story that fits a 2 hour movie. Quite frankly you could have a movie of Smile breaking up, Queen forming and their struggles in their first few years. Plenty of up and downs in there. And end it in Bohemian Rhapsody conquering the charts and Freddie feeling vindicated, blah blah. They could have made a similar movie about them being old dinosaurs as early as 76-77 with the appearance of Punk and then Queen "making a comeback" with We are the Champions. They could have made it about their steady climb in the seventies but feeling frustrated that they could not conquer America and then it finally happens in 1980. They could have made it about Freddie's last years, him being brave in front of adversity and that whole "write me lyrics, I'll sing anything" mentality. But now try to put all of that together and it's more like a 24-episode series where some parts in the middle will suck and others are just 'meh' but don't really resolve into something meaningful. Soooo... bottomline, we'll know when we see it. Hopefully the general public will like it and it gets good word of mouth. I would rather have a Hollywood Blockbuster with some artistic license and have Queen be massively popular again... then Rami and Gwylim getting Oscar nods and maybe something in Sound Design or Best Music, etc. I prefer this than getting a super accurate and factual depiction of Queen's story that nobody cares about. |
| musicland munich 01.10.2018 23:02 |
Actually I can't see a "Queen-Movie-trialogue" here. If the movie is doing good on the market, and there is a loophole or a "cliffhanger" at the end, then a second movie revolving about the inescapeable is possible. A two hour film about the early days or far fetched spin offs, will not work at the box office I guess. |
| bucsateflon 02.10.2018 06:39 |
there will be no second movie produced by May and Taylor. |
| dysan 02.10.2018 07:14 |
This is the problem with biopic. 'You have a FANTASTIC story to tell!! And I want to tell it for you!!! Let's change it!!!' I guess it's no different from hearing a story your mate got up to, and finding it funny enough to tell the chaps in the office but exaggerating it for the sake of the funnies. Fair dos. |
| k-m 02.10.2018 11:01 |
The Real Wizard wrote:No need to wait, I'm sure it will be exactly what it says on the tin. Everything I have seen so far seems to confirm that official movie description.musicland munich wrote: In short : Freddie left the band for his solo stuff - comes back before a real band split and managed them, despite he is diagnosed with AIDS, to perform at Live Aid.Yep - classic Hollywood. Few biopics are fully accurate. But this would be a hell of a case of revisionist history if that's the case. Let's wait to see the film. Having said that, I think I'm actually ok with that factual change. It would have been very difficult to leave the diagnosis for later if they wanted to climax with Live Aid. They would have to skip the Magic Tour (if the late 86 or early 87 version is true) and go straight to it. Besides, I think we can all suspect he was already ill in 85 anyway and he was probably worried too. That sudden move from Munich to London and change of lifestyle... |
| The Real Wizard 02.10.2018 13:50 |
k-m wrote: Having said that, I think I'm actually ok with that factual change. It would have been very difficult to leave the diagnosis for later if they wanted to climax with Live Aid. They would have to skip the Magic Tour (if the late 86 or early 87 version is true) and go straight to it. Besides, I think we can all suspect he was already ill in 85 anyway and he was probably worried too. That sudden move from Munich to London and change of lifestyle..Exactly. It's a year off, give or a take. Not very much in the grand scheme of things. An artistic liberty that will reap many rewards. |
| The Real Wizard 02.10.2018 13:51 |
bucsateflon wrote: there will be no second movie produced by May and Taylor.Precisely - because this one will be so successful that there will be no need for another. Millions of people all over the world are talking about this film months before it comes out. Not too many films (never mind music films) garner this kind of anticipation. |
| bucsateflon 03.10.2018 19:02 |
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| bucsateflon 03.10.2018 19:02 |
Bohemian Rhapsody | Becoming Freddie | 20th Century FOX at 1:55 you can clearly see how they CGI-ed his mouth for accurate lip sinking |
| bucsateflon 03.10.2018 19:03 |
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| LOTV 04.10.2018 17:26 |
It's a 12A, that's all we need to know. As ever Bri and Rog playing it safe. I'm picturing The Boat That Rocks with less swearing. I don't know how they can accurately portray Fred without the F word, he was renowned for having a potty mouth. Still, I'll watch the bloody thing. |
| mike hunt 04.10.2018 20:55 |
The Real Wizard wrote:worldwide I agree....but how successful in America will it be?bucsateflon wrote: there will be no second movie produced by May and Taylor.Precisely - because this one will be so successful that there will be no need for another. Millions of people all over the world are talking about this film months before it comes out. Not too many films (never mind music films) garner this kind of anticipation. |
| Holly2003 04.10.2018 21:06 |
Look out for the short version of BoRap with new chorus added for the casual viewer: Hoop diddy diddy hoop diddy do, we're all having a Bohemian Rhapsody Hoop diddy diddy hoop diddy do, we're all having a Bohemian Rhapsody |
| Queen789789 05.10.2018 08:22 |
Perhaps there is something that happened in 1984-1985 that we don't know about. Given the release of Mr. Bad Guy, it definitely seemed like Freddie was getting ready to go out on his own before Live Aid. |
| Golden Salmon 05.10.2018 10:38 |
Queen789789 wrote: Perhaps there is something that happened in 1984-1985 that we don't know about. Given the release of Mr. Bad Guy, it definitely seemed like Freddie was getting ready to go out on his own before Live Aid.The mostly confirmed rumor is that they were going to break up after "The Works" had no impact in the US charts, but somehow they never got around actually doing it. In any case, Freddie really wanted to go solo and said that he tried to replicate Queen's sound/quality with his album, but he fell short and it underperformed in the charts. Several songs in it, maybe half of them, started life as Queen songs and he even got Brian involved with "She Blows Hot And Cold", but Freddie alone could never be as grand as Queen and it was a reality check for him. He still did his other solo projects in their hiatus after the Magic tour but surely he always knew they were better off together for whatever long he had left. |
| Dr Magus 05.10.2018 10:50 |
Freddie's first couple of singles did perfectly well, charting in the top 10 or thereabouts. What put paid to his solo career was the success of Live Aid. He released Made In Heaven single at the same time and it didn't get in the top 50 yet Queen albums released years earlier were recharting. People saw Freddie as the singer of Queen and all they wanted was Queen, Queen, Queen. |
| mike hunt 05.10.2018 13:52 |
people are talking like they know what their talking about....we will never know if Freddie was planning on leaving Queen. They Just released a pretty successful album in The Works, then the following year was Live Aid. By the way, Mr. Bad Guy sounds nothing like Queen. Do you really think Let's Turn It On, Living On My Own, I was Born To love You, My Love Is Dangerous sounds anything like Queen? That's why he thanked Brian, Roger and John for staying out of it. The only solo album that Intentionally trys to sound like Queen Is Back To The Light. |
| bucsateflon 05.10.2018 14:25 |
Golden Salmon wrote: but Freddie alone could never be as grand as Queen and it was a reality check for him.Aleluia! you must be a genius |
| Golden Salmon 05.10.2018 15:01 |
Ooops! I thought I was just stating the obvious from the various bits and pieces we've heard and read over the years. The break-up rumors that would have happened before Live Aid are substantiated from many sources consistently. Peter Hince did say this:
Live Aid, in 1985, was a defining moment in Queen’s career. What do you remember most of that day? “Well, at first they weren’t keen to do it. There were serious problems within the band at that time. I think it’s quite likely they would have broken up because (1984 album) The Works hadn’t done anything in America, they didn’t tour it there. And Fred was doing his solo stuff. So Live Aid galvanised them. It was a watershed for the band. They got the audience at the right time with the right songs. Maybe they felt they had something to prove. When they came off, you really felt – and they felt – that they’d stolen the show. Elton said that to them afterwards: “You fuckers!”At this point we know there was a bit more than "quite likely" around that time, but some fans may not believe it. Anyway, I'd swear Freddie himself mentioned at some point that he couldn't be as successful as Queen on his own, particularly some time after Mr. Bad Guy and that it was one of the reasons to rekindle the band's collective relationship, but my memory could be playing tricks on me, so feel free to debunk my words. |
| mike hunt 05.10.2018 16:00 |
years later, Brian said there was rumors of Queen breaking up in the early to mid 80's. But those rumors wern't true, they needed a break from each other. They did have problems like every band, but a break up? The Works/live Aid/Magic In a two year period. That's some break up....Roger also stated, "while they lost their popularity in the states they hardly noticed. The rest of the world we were on top, and creating some of our biggest hits". I think live Aid was Important for them as a band...A watershed moment, but In my opinion wasn't the reason they stayed together. The Movie has to have drama, so of course it will have Queen falling apart and then Live Aid brings them back. Nevermind The Works was a pretty popular album. |
| dudeofqueen 05.10.2018 16:07 |
Re: >>The film traces the meteoric rise of the band through their iconic songs and revolutionary sound. They reach unparalleled success, but in an unexpected turn Freddie, surrounded by darker influences, shuns Queen in pursuit of his solo career. Having suffered greatly without the collaboration of Queen, Freddie manages to reunite with his bandmates just in time for Live Aid. While bravely facing a recent AIDS diagnosis, Freddie leads the band in one of the greatest performances in the history of rock music. Queen cements a legacy that continues to inspire outsiders, dreamers and music lovers to this day. What a load of utter bollocks. Revolutionary sound? What revolution? Vocals, guitar, drums and bass had been done a billion times by 1971. Les Paul invented multi-tracking, not Brian May or Queen. Unparallelled? Now Queen is bigger than The Beatles and countless other bands or artists........ Shunned? Incorrect. Chose to pursue a different avenue fearing burn-out and stasis. 1984 / '85 AIDS diagnosis? "inspire outsiders, dreamers"? FFS - old Brooksy is just a few key stokes from name-checking himself. |
| mike hunt 05.10.2018 18:08 |
ok, calm down dude...It's not that serious |
| kosimodo 06.10.2018 06:01 |
Think, next month you can hear radio gaga at live aid in cinema surround top notch quality. Just that would be a treat. |
| Dr Magus 06.10.2018 09:03 |
They're just trying to big the film up. Maybe they should call it There's A Rhino Loose Somewhere Out In The Sticks Where No Sod Lives. |
| AudioSynthesis 06.10.2018 11:35 |
I want the story to be accurate, but at the end of the day, I just want a good film. May and Taylor were involved in the production, and considering how supportive they have been of the final product, I would be surprised if the film wasn't good. It might not be accurate, but I would rather have a well made film than a meticulously accurate one. So long as it captures the essence of Queen. Let's wait until it premieres, then we can really have this discussion. |
| MisterCosmicc 06.10.2018 16:46 |
Get down... make fudge! |