| bucsateflon 12.09.2018 18:44 |
Sealion wrote: Queen had never been a real rock band.sealion; this dumb ass female wrote these words What do you think? here is the place were she craped this tardiness: link |
| rockchic65 12.09.2018 19:33 |
bucsateflon wrote:I took it to mean that Queen were never just a rock band but did all sorts of genre's besides rock from funk, pop, operetta, rockabilly etc. linkSealion wrote: Queen had never been a real rock band.sealion; this dumb ass female wrote these words What do you think? here is the place were she craped this tardiness: link |
| Sealion 12.09.2018 22:36 |
What idiot opens a thread about a sentence someone posted in a discussion? You didn‘t even repost my complete answer. Since you couldn‘t even wait for an explanation, in the original thread - I will quote myself here: „Really? Queen was always special in the way they mixed up different genres. They always pushed the boundaries. I don‘t see them as just a rock band. Queen has always been much more than that.“ Yes, that‘s my opinion. NOW you can discuss it, Lady @bucsateflon.( The one, who got her knickers wet and started insults, because Queen did more than rock.) Idiot. |
| The Ghost of Lester Burnham 12.09.2018 22:47 |
Good thing you called out her gender in this nonsensical post. No, Queen weren't JUST a rock band – they were more than that, which is exactly what Sealion said. And I agree with. Yes, they played rock, but they were more nuanced than just being labeled a rock band. A band like Bad Company, now there's a rock band. But Queen had four diverse songwriters who toyed with very different genres. Some were successful, some were not, and Queen almost always presented themselves as a rock band on stage, but they went above and beyond that classification in the studio. |
| Thistle 12.09.2018 23:52 |
bucsateflon wrote: here is the place were she craped this tardiness:God, I hate it when crapes are late. |
| bucsateflon 13.09.2018 08:14 |
From " Queen weren't JUST a rock band" to "Queen had never been a real rock band" its a big difference Now next time you know how to express yourself better because "Queen had never been a real rock band" remains the most imbecilic statement ever put on this forum |
| Sealion 13.09.2018 12:24 |
It’s not my fault, that you humiliated yourself. I said - and I do stand by it - that „Queen was never a REAL rockband“. Have you by any chance wondered, why I wrote REAL in capital letters? No? Maybe you should try to use your brain, instead of thinking that everyone posting in the Q+AL section was a glowing Glambert and had no knowledge of Queen. And if you don’t understand, what was meant by that, you could ask the poster, what he intended to say, instead of trying to make fun of him by creating a thread about that remark in another section of the forum. I don’t know, how old you are. Your behavior suggests that you might be rather young. So maybe you can learn from this experience now. |
| thomasquinn 32989 13.09.2018 12:31 |
So, the Queen Purity SS is now also resorting to openly sexist personal attacks? And bucsateflon, in the category "the most imbecilic statement ever put on this forum", your 298 useless posts (and counting) are still waaay ahead of Sealion's remarks, and even waaay ahead of your warped construction of what you think she means. You are pathetic and a waste of oxygen. |
| bucsateflon 13.09.2018 12:53 |
„Queen was never a REAL rockband“ AND "Queen almost always presented themselves as a rock band on stage" These AL stupid fan girls take the cake with their retarded statements |
| The Fairy King 13.09.2018 14:23 |
bucsateflon wrote: „Queen was never a REAL rockband“ AND "Queen almost always presented themselves as a rock band on stage" These AL stupid fan girls take the cake with their retarded statementsYou seem pretty selective with which posts you reply to... You kind of remind me of some other Anti-AL geezers on here. Must be hard to switch between so many different accounts. |
| Costa86 14.09.2018 08:36 |
"Dumb ass female". Seriously? Do you realise how chauvinistic that sounds? Were you wearing a wife beater vest and sitting in a kitchen in a Sicilian village in 1927, having just "disciplined" your wife for serving you a meal which in your view wasn't cooked quite right, when you wrote that post? |
| Sealion 14.09.2018 12:06 |
Costa86 wrote: "Dumb ass female". Seriously? Do you realise how chauvinistic that sounds? Were you wearing a wife beater vest and sitting in a kitchen in a Sicilian village in 1927, having just "disciplined" your wife for serving you a meal which in your view wasn't cooked quite right, when you wrote that post?Oh, I take it as another insult towards fans, who dare to post in a positive way about Q+AL. Even if I wasn’t even talking about the collaboration in this case. We are all glamberts and women. Even if we are not. I‘m neither of it. The idiot, who started this thread, only wanted to provoke and spill hate. And yes, his view of women is disturbing. He (I guess it is a he) sounds also a lot like that happystar, who seems to have disappeared. But maybe that’s a coincidence and more of these people, who discriminate women, are on this forum. Unfortunately the mods on this site don’t care enough about these things. That’s only my opinion, of course. |
| bucsateflon 14.09.2018 18:17 |
„Queen was never a REAL rockband“ AND "Queen almost always presented themselves as a rock band on stage" These AL stupid fan girls take the cake with their retarded statements focus poor people focus |
| Star* 14.09.2018 18:18 |
Sealion Queen were a REAL rock band form the very first note they played and until Freddie took his last breath, If anything they are not a real rock band now Lambert has turned them into a cabaret circus act. Freddie was the ultimate rock n roller. You need to educate yourself and stop defending a looser like Lambert because that thing will never be a rock n roller EVER ! |
| rockchic65 14.09.2018 18:32 |
Queen covered all genre's not just rock. Of course they had their hard rock and metal songs but they also had funk, pop, rockabilly, operetta etc you can't say that's a standard rock band, that's what made them so unique. And regardless what anyone thinks of QAL they're successful and people are still wanting more tours so I doubt they care about a few negative opinions and that's all it amounts to, A FEW. |
| Sebastian 14.09.2018 18:38 |
Just to be pedantic, they didn't cover *all* genres. They covered some of them, and quite well, but not by any means *all*. |
| rockchic65 14.09.2018 19:27 |
Sebastian wrote: Just to be pedantic, they didn't cover *all* genres. They covered some of them, and quite well, but not by any means *all*.Well the "all" wasn't meant literally but they covered a large amount, enough to make them not just a rock band which was the point. |
| Sealion 14.09.2018 20:08 |
Since the OP just took my sentence out of any context and is still going on about it, is here my explanation: The OP was of the opinion, that Lambert can’t sing Queen songs, because he can’t sing rock. And that ONLY rock singers were the first tier, when it comes to live singing, while everyone else (including Michael Jackson, Madonna or Elton John) were one step lower. He was debating that with another member of this forum. This was part of his discussion with The Real Wizard: bucsateflon wrote: [quote] let me rephrase: "The greatest live music performers are ONLY in the ROCK AND ROLL roam/genre/category/style of music" the rest are one step lower. [/quote] [quote] bucsateflon wrote: AL cant rock cause he aint a rocker, screaming some metal garbage lines dont make you a rock singer, you got to like ROCK music(and hate DSMN) ...as Brian May and RT do [/quote] Then I answered: [quote] sealion wrote: If only ROCK counts in your eyes, then you are a fan of the wrong band. Queen had never been a real rock band. [/quote] Now my explanation: 1. Queen mixed a lot of genres and always pushed boundaries, as I mentioned before. Sure, they were mainly playing rock. But in comparison to other rock groups, they always mixed a lot of other genres in. And in the eighties they also did rather a lot of pop and funk for instance. All the genres were discussed in a thread, that rockchick has already linked to in the second post in this thread. 2. And actually the reason, why I answered in that other thread: I remember sitting at home and watching the tribute concert in 1992. A lot of rock groups came and played Queen songs. Some okayish, some really bad. I was actually pretty down and shocked, that -for me- nobody of these great rock singers was able to sing Queen‘s songs in a satisfactory way. The best? George Michael. A rock singer, right? ;-) I only found the statement wrong, that rock singers are better live performers than performers in every other genre. I think it’s a question of talent. Not of genre. |
| musicland munich 15.09.2018 01:14 |
I think I will watch this discussion from a safe distance :) |
| Sebastian 15.09.2018 04:12 |
rockchic65 wrote:Yeah, I know, and I agree. I was just being annoying, anal and literal, which is sort of my thing - check my signature!Sebastian wrote: Just to be pedantic, they didn't cover *all* genres. They covered some of them, and quite well, but not by any means *all*.Well the "all" wasn't meant literally but they covered a large amount, enough to make them not just a rock band which was the point. |
| bucsateflon 15.09.2018 08:46 |
Queen was a full fledged rock band get it thru your tiny narrow brain, exceptions to the rule do not count on the whole. When you say something out of stupidity like "Queen was never a REAL rockband" its like saying Adam Lambert is not a real singer, or MJ was not a real pop star. Its pure insult put on writen words on the bands no1 community. SO, get the fuck outta here dumb girl and take with you that other one that said "Queen almost always presented themselves as a rock band on stage" |
| Star* 15.09.2018 12:09 |
Queen always had a bit of rock n roll in every album they recorded and saying they were not a real rock band was a silly. Rock was there stamp there trade mark check out "Queen to The Game" albums. These days they they have gone very limp to what they were in the good old days. |
| The Ghost of Lester Burnham 15.09.2018 13:41 |
Never heard of the "Queen to The Game" album. What's on it? |
| Star* 15.09.2018 17:36 |
"Queen" was the bands debut album back in 1973 it was all rock and roll and "The Game" album was released in 1980 and the bands most popular album to date in the USA, |
| bucsateflon 15.09.2018 17:44 |
Setting things strait |
| Iron Butterfly 15.09.2018 20:30 |
When I think about Queen, I do think of them as a rock band. That said, rock isn't all they did. I also enjoy the pop and the other genres they did. |
| bucsateflon 15.09.2018 20:42 |
me too, but their core reasoning for existing as a band was Rock music. And live they were 100% a rock band. |
| Vocal harmony 15.09.2018 22:17 |
I can't believe this has run to two pages based on a miss quote. |
| Star* 16.09.2018 09:43 |
Typical idiotic Glambert fans would think of a thread like this. No values no musical taste and obviously no brains. |
| kosimodo 16.09.2018 10:54 |
The ultimate rockband. |
| rockchic65 16.09.2018 11:52 |
happystar wrote: Typical idiotic Glambert fans would think of a thread like this. No values no musical taste and obviously no brains.It wasn't a Glambert who started the thread. |
| Star* 16.09.2018 12:39 |
Rockchic Thought "Sealion" said Queen were never a real rock band? |
| bucsateflon 16.09.2018 13:01 |
and it is the dumbest statement ever read on this forum |
| rockchic65 16.09.2018 13:28 |
happystar wrote: Rockchic Thought "Sealion" said Queen were never a real rock band?Yes and bucsateflon started the thread to point out sealion's comment. |
| Dr Magus 16.09.2018 17:18 |
My favourite Queen album is The Who Live at Leeds. |
| Star* 16.09.2018 18:45 |
Sealions comment is ridiculous and just goes to prove Glamberts are all selfish uneducated people when it comes to music. Next Sealion will be saying The sex pistols were reggae artists! |
| Thistle 16.09.2018 19:08 |
happystar wrote: Sealions comment is ridiculous and just goes to prove Glamberts are all selfish uneducated people when it comes to music. Next Sealion will be saying The sex pistols were reggae artists!It's a MIS-quote and didn't mean what the the person who started the thread is trying to make it look like. What Sealion meant was that Queen weren't JUST a rock-band. Yes, that was a part of what they were about, but they covered a lot of genres from opera to blues, pop and dance. Surely you understand this after two pages of this shite? The OP certainly does, but is trying to demonize. This is all a lot of nothing. |
| bucsateflon 16.09.2018 19:52 |
MIS-quote?!! From " Queen weren't JUST a rock band" to "Queen had never been a real rock band" its a big difference how old are you twats? do you know the meaning of the words you write? or are you just "educated" on facebook? |
| Thistle 16.09.2018 21:00 |
What was said, how you interpret it, and what was actually meant are all different things. Bad choice of words fom Sealion, but it's been explained to you. Maybe you should drop it now. And no need for insults, either. Just because you don't get it doesn't mean the rest of us are naive, young "twats", or uneducated. |
| The Fairy King 17.09.2018 10:54 |
And of course retards are trying to make it an anti-Adam thread again. :') |
| Star* 17.09.2018 11:40 |
Sealion is just trying to start a row on here, as Glamberts always do. Ignore guys. |
| bucsateflon 17.09.2018 13:29 |
Don't ignore it, or else abnormality becomes norm.
come to think the statement The Ghost of Lester Burnham wrote: Queen almost always presented themselves as a rock band on stage,comes from pure ignorance of a weak mind who never saw a full Queen live concert. |
| thomasquinn 32989 17.09.2018 13:49 |
"abnormality becomes norm" Is that a homophobe dog-whistle there, my semi-literate egomaniacal little man? The weak mind is that which can't deal with opinions other than its own, i.e. your mind (or whatever it is you pass off as a mind). You were the weak-minded one all along! That must've been a surprise to you! Of course, it wasn't a surprise to pretty much anyone else because, you know, we have functioning brains and all that... By the way, Lester was here before the unholy day that the people in the nuthouse decided you could have some computer-time. He's seen and heard Queen-concerts more often than you've been sodomized by your drunken 'uncles'. |
| Thistle 17.09.2018 16:59 |
happystar wrote: Sealion is just trying to start a row on here, as Glamberts always do. Ignore guys.It wasn't Sealion who started the thread. Think man, think. |
| bucsateflon 17.09.2018 18:34 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote: "abnormality becomes norm" Is that a homophobe dog-whistle there, my semi-literate egomaniacal little man?you are not at my level "question mark boy-girl" -thats you I made a discussion just for your type, some of your obfuscated fellows are present there, you put your mark there too.OK, question mark boy-girl? link |
| Thistle 17.09.2018 20:07 |
bucsateflon wrote: you are not at my level linkWell, as you're perched on the bottom rung, that might come as quite a relief. |
| The Ghost of Lester Burnham 17.09.2018 23:36 |
bucsateflon wrote: Don't ignore it, or else abnormality becomes norm. come to think the statementHaha ok, whatever helps you sleep at night.The Ghost of Lester Burnham wrote: Queen almost always presented themselves as a rock band on stage,comes from pure ignorance of a weak mind who never saw a full Queen live concert. |
| thomasquinn 32989 18.09.2018 05:00 |
bucsateflon wrote:So yes, a homophobe dog whistle. You're terrified of gay people. Freddie Mercury must give you horrible nightmares. What are you even doing here?thomasquinn 32989 wrote: "abnormality becomes norm" Is that a homophobe dog-whistle there, my semi-literate egomaniacal little man?you are not at my level "question mark boy-girl" -thats you I made a discussion just for your type, some of your obfuscated fellows are present there, you put your mark there too.OK, question mark boy-girl? link "Obfuscated"? Just like "tardiness" in your opening post, this makes me wonder. Your writing is so terrible that it almost matches your degenerate personality, but it seems that you're somewhat aware of how inadequate your writing is (hint: you're inadequate as a person too - that's why no woman will touch you, which you project into an insane hatred/fear of gays), so you randomly throw in a 'complicated' word into each post. Just too bad that you clearly don't know what they mean, so your misuse of them makes you look even more stupid than the rest of your garbage, which is actually quite a feat. So, degenerate little boy, what's your problem? Did the backwoods priest in your retarded inbred village grope you? Do you have issues because you so badly want to suck your dad's dick? Are you scared people will think you're gay because you can't get a girl, even if you pay for it? |
| Invisible Woman 18.09.2018 07:38 |
Rock music is a very broad term. There are many of variants. Also, the influence of other genres. Of course that Queen were rock band. But the genre doesn't much important to me. I love their music. |
| bucsateflon 18.09.2018 07:41 |
"question mark boy-girl" is on a rant focus you troubled creature, focus: „Queen was never a REAL rockband“ AND "Queen almost always presented themselves as a rock band on stage" not true |
| Star* 18.09.2018 11:18 |
Queen was a real rock band because they had a lot of influences in there music from Hendrix to Zeppelin, anyone that dismisses that is truly dense. |
| Thistle 18.09.2018 14:40 |
happystar wrote: Queen was a real rock band because they had a lot of influences in there music from Hendrix to Zeppelin, anyone that dismisses that is truly dense.*were (or are), not was *their, not there *Led Zeppelin were pilferers and covered more than just rock (like Queen!) * No one dismissed that Queen are a rock band. But they were MORE than just that, which is what the OP meant, and anyone who now can't see that or argues the toss is truly dense. It's an empty argument. |
| bucsateflon 18.09.2018 15:21 |
Sealion wrote: Queen had never been a real rock band.this one did, luckily I addressed the situation |
| Thistle 18.09.2018 15:50 |
bucsateflon wrote:And you know fine well you are taking it out of context. This is a name and shame for no reason, an empty argument and one that should never have gotten this much exposure.Sealion wrote: Queen had never been a real rock band.this one did, luckily I addressed the situation There was no need to start a separate thread. If you disagree, you could have left it in the place the original comment was made. This is just a horrible attempt to demonize someone for a poorly worded statement on a forum that you know wasn't intended to mean what you've blown it up to be. Let it drop. |
| bucsateflon 18.09.2018 18:20 |
The context is even more revealing of the sheer out of place stupidity of this ... thing called selion
Sealion wrote:The truth is exactly opposing :IF YOU ARE NOT INTO ROCK YOU AIN'T A TRUE QUEEN FANbucsateflon wrote: AL cant rock cause he aint a rocker, screaming some metal garbage lines dont make you a rock singer, you got to like ROCK music(and hate DSMN) ...as Brian May and RT doIf only ROCK counts in your eyes, then you are a fan of the wrong band. Queen had never been a real rock band. |
| Thistle 19.09.2018 00:14 |
^ again, that's not what was said. You know that. Stop being arsey about it. |
| Star* 19.09.2018 20:34 |
Queen are not rock anymore because Freddie is gone and they have a west end musical twit who has taken the band in the wrong direction. May & Taylor have lost the plot big time. |
| bucsateflon 20.09.2018 09:33 |
calm down! focus on this AL/MJ/Shakira pop fangirls stupid statements: „Queen was never a REAL rockband“ AND "Queen almost always presented themselves as a rock band on stage" not true !!!! |
| The Fairy King 20.09.2018 13:13 |
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| Thistle 20.09.2018 15:33 |
bucsateflon wrote: calm down! focus on this AL/MJ/Shakira pop fangirls stupid statements: „Queen was never a REAL rockband“ AND "Queen almost always presented themselves as a rock band on stage" not true !!!!You can repeat that as much as you want, but the fact is you know you're deliberately mis-quoting and making it out to be something it's not. Maybe you should just shut the fuck up now. In fact, just shut the fuck up now. |
| bucsateflon 20.09.2018 17:14 |
"deliberately mis-quoting" thats not true dumb ass girl, this is the exact statement quoted and the exact context is quoted on the other page for everyone to see it there you go! 4 pages |
| Thistle 20.09.2018 22:04 |
"dumb ass girl" - is that what's on your birth certificate? Excellent, now I can call you by your proper name!! |
| Vocal harmony 21.09.2018 10:21 |
happystar wrote: Queen are not rock anymore because Freddie is gone and they have a west end musical twit who has taken the band in the wrong direction. May & Taylor have lost the plot big time.Why do you try to turn every thread into a an anti May, Taylor and Lambert fest? |
| Star* 21.09.2018 20:58 |
Because i am demonstrating here that Queen have gone from been an incredible rock n roll band to an incredible awful meaningless nothing with Adam Lambert. They are NOW not a rock n roll band but west end musical trashy cheesy sad desperados in the music industry and all because Brian wanted that kid from American idol who destroyed Queens classy reputation. |
| Thistle 22.09.2018 00:38 |
They were more than just a rock band, which again is what SL meant. Please don't make this more drivel about AL now. You've made your point in several threads over several months - let it rest. |
| Vocal harmony 22.09.2018 12:09 |
happystar wrote: Because i am demonstrating here that Queen have gone from been an incredible rock n roll band to an incredible awful meaningless nothing with Adam Lambert. They are NOW not a rock n roll band but west end musical trashy cheesy sad desperados in the music industry and all because Brian wanted that kid from American idol who destroyed Queens classy reputation.As Thistle says you're just repeating yourself and doing so over several unconnected threads. Actually I can't think of a single thread that you've joined where you haven't some how derailed or almost derailed (either by accident or desire) the original subject to push you're single minded predictable view on everyone. Maybe you'd like to take the time to read this thread thoroughly and then give us your thoughts on what is actually being said. |
| Vocal harmony 22.09.2018 12:09 |
Double post |
| bucsateflon 22.09.2018 17:44 |
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| bucsateflon 22.09.2018 17:57 |
Thistle wrote: They were more than just a rock band, which again is what SL meant. Please don't make this more drivel about AL now. You've made your point in several threads over several months - let it rest.If sealion meant to say that and ended up saying instead: „Queen was never a REAL rockband“ she should admit her stupid mistake! besides "more than just a rock band" is a dumb millennial kind of a statement since rock and roll is the ultimate highest form of modern music. No other style of music can surpass the greatness of two guitars and a drum set on a live stage! |
| Star* 22.09.2018 18:33 |
Vocal Harmony You are just against any sort of reply that i participate in so i will ignore your repeated comments. You are like a parrot also. |
| Thistle 22.09.2018 20:15 |
bucsateflon wrote:That's YOUR opinion. It' not fact. Music is subjective.Thistle wrote: They were more than just a rock band, which again is what SL meant. Please don't make this more drivel about AL now. You've made your point in several threads over several months - let it rest.If sealion meant to say that and ended up saying instead: „Queen was never a REAL rockband“ she should admit her stupid mistake! besides "more than just a rock band" is a dumb millennial kind of a statement since rock and roll is the ultimate highest form of modern music. No other style of music can surpass the greatness of two guitars and a drum set on a live stage! And it HAD been pointed out to you, but you keep on repeating yourself. Even if you were right, you've now made your point - so why are you still rattling on? |
| bucsateflon 23.09.2018 07:55 |
I am right |
| thomasquinn 32989 23.09.2018 11:22 |
bucsateflon wrote:Hahaha! Are you *trying* to be a parody of yourself? Because you're definitely succeeding!Thistle wrote: They were more than just a rock band, which again is what SL meant. Please don't make this more drivel about AL now. You've made your point in several threads over several months - let it rest.If sealion meant to say that and ended up saying instead: „Queen was never a REAL rockband“ she should admit her stupid mistake! besides "more than just a rock band" is a dumb millennial kind of a statement since rock and roll is the ultimate highest form of modern music. No other style of music can surpass the greatness of two guitars and a drum set on a live stage! So, aside from your zero people skills, you also know nothing about music. What a surprise... |
| Vocal harmony 23.09.2018 12:07 |
happystar wrote: Vocal Harmony You are just against any sort of reply that i participate in so i will ignore your repeated comments. You are like a parrot also.If you're ignoring what I said why reply to it. If you said something constructive you'd get a more favourable response, and not just from me. Ignore my posts by all means, but if you're going to reply to them you're not ignoring them! |
| Vocal harmony 23.09.2018 12:28 |
happystar wrote: Sealion Queen were a REAL rock band form the very first note they played and until Freddie took his last breath, If anything they are not a real rock band now Lambert has turned them into a cabaret circus act. Freddie was the ultimate rock n roller. You need to educate yourself and stop defending a looser like Lambert because that thing will never be a rock n roller EVER !And you need to educate yourself too, "Freddie was the ultimate Rock n'Roller. The guy who introduced most of the un rock elements to the band was the ultimate rocker. Both Roger and Brian it could be argued were more rock than Freddie, any number of guys in other bands were more rock than Queen (as a band, never mind Freddie or any other member) Van Halen, Rainbow, 70's Quo, Bad co, Aerosmith, Deep Purple before Coverdale and Huges joined and many many more were more rock, but that is what made Queen different, both on album and live. Sealions point is clear, they were just a rock band on the first album, things were changing on the 2nd. By Sheer Heart Attack they were unlike most other bands in the broadness of their musical landscape and from there on they became less and less just a rock band. |
| Star* 23.09.2018 12:55 |
Vocal Harmony We do not care about what Queen was and what they become they are still regarded as Rock n Roll legends and that is why they are inducted in The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame! After saying that if Freddie had not joined Brian & Roger we would have no Queen at all so thanks to Freddie the magic was started by him alone. He was the business head in the band the most creative and the most artistic. Could you ever see Brian or Roger writing Bo Rhap or Somebody to love? |
| Vocal harmony 23.09.2018 14:00 |
Actually John Deacon was the business head of the four, not Freddie. No Brian and Roger would never have written Some Body To Love or Bo Rhap. You obviously thing John could have as you haven't included him in your statement. Freddie on the other hand didn't write Father To Son, White Queen, Brighton Rock, Now I'm Here, Tenement Funster, Good Company, I'm In Love With My Car, Tie Your Mother Down! White Man, Long Away, Spread Your Wings, we Will Rock You, Fat Bottomed Girls, Bites The Dust, A Kind Of Magic and many more. And the further you go into the 80's the les impact a lot ( not all) of Freddie's writing had. Add to most of the songs the harmonies and Brian Mays guitar sound it was never about just one persons input whether as a writer or musician/singer |
| Star* 23.09.2018 16:52 |
Dont forget Freddie ignited the flame and got Queen into the big time and he was the one that made folk sit up and listen. May & Taylor where just about to quit until Freddie stepped in and his grand master plans were in place, new band name new direction etc....... the rest is history. |
| bucsateflon 23.09.2018 19:34 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote: Hahaha! Are you *trying* to be a parody of yourself? Because you're definitely succeeding! So, aside from your zero people skills, you also know nothing about music. What a surprise...Lay off the Flova Scotia "question mark boy-girl" |
| bucsateflon 23.09.2018 19:42 |
happystar wrote: Dont forget Freddie ignited the flame and got Queen into the big time and he was the one that made folk sit up and listen. May & Taylor where just about to quit until Freddie stepped in and his grand master plans were in place, new band name new direction etc....... the rest is history.His so called "master plan" needed the best rock band to accompany him, without BM and RT Freddie would have been lost in the disco/pop inferior type of music world. That world were stupid twats and unicorns live along side tampons and Flova Scotia addicts. |
| Star* 23.09.2018 20:34 |
When Freddie approached May & Taylor they were ready to call it a day, but Freddie made them listen to his plans to get them noticed. If Freddie never turned up Queen would never have been born. Nothing wrong with pop / disco as there has been many brilliant artists from that era. |
| bucsateflon 24.09.2018 12:33 |
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| bucsateflon 24.09.2018 12:36 |
nothing wrong but much inferior His plans would never been accomplished without BM and RT Maybe if he was really lucky Freddie solo as a musician would have been an opening act for Elton John. |
| Star* 24.09.2018 14:30 |
Sorry do not agree, Freddie was mega talented and i am sure he would have found the niche that he was looking for. Sure Brian Roger & John made the winning formula for Queen but Freddie was the mastermind behind the image, crest, direction and some of the music. |
| Negative Creep 24.09.2018 14:43 |
Come off it - if neither party had got together, it's a million times more likely Freddie would have gone on to bigger things than Brian and/or Roger. By simple fact of neither really being singers. Freddie was responsible for the band's image, he was singer and focal point and wrote all the of the band's hit singles on the way up. It's easier for a talented singer-songwriter to find a competent band, than budding musicians to find a singer who is unique and can connect with audiences. Noen of this is talking down Brian and Roger, it is just reality. |
| bucsateflon 24.09.2018 16:12 |
Nobody here compared BM RT to FM, definitely FM as an artist is way superior.But that doesn't guarantee success at the highest level. Unlike all of you FM fanboys he knew back then he needed to be in a ROCK band of top level quality to achieve ultimate success as per (Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, Rolling Stones and Beatles) What all have in common?? they play rock and roll(guitars and drums) Thats why he begged BM and RT to give one more try. |
| bucsateflon 24.09.2018 16:15 |
If anything you should compare Freddie solo with MJ and Elton John, do you have the guts and tell me Freddie solo would have been more successful than these 2? |
| Vocal harmony 24.09.2018 16:42 |
bucsateflon wrote:What about a guitar, keyboards and drums or a guitar, bass and drums or one guitar and drums. What about a horn section or even three drummers. . .Thistle wrote: They were more than just a rock band, which again is what SL meant. Please don't make this more drivel about AL now. You've made your point in several threads over several months - let it rest.. . . . . . . . .No other style of music can surpass the greatness of two guitars and a drum set on a live stage! How about a big band line up or a rock band playing with a orchestra. What about a really tight fusion band, it's endless and if you're limited to only listening rock you really haven't heard nearly half the good stuff out there. |
| blueroom 24.09.2018 17:30 |
You've all got it wrong - Queen were never a band in the first place. You're imagining it, none of them are real, this is all a dream. |
| bucsateflon 24.09.2018 18:40 |
Vocal harmony wrote: How about a big band line up or a rock band playing with a orchestra. What about a really tight fusion band, it's endless and if you're limited to only listening rock you really haven't heard nearly half the good stuff out there.Lol how old are you? you don't have to take it literally. In the "you really haven't heard nearly half the good stuff out there" category falls Adam Lambert too, have you heard of him? He definitely is a good singer, worth hearing. But that doesn't mean hes equal to all other singers out there, rather inferior to some great rock musician by the nature of his style. Not all music styles are equal in overall greatness. How do you measure greatness in music? Kinda like you measure Led Zeppelin accolades, then you make charts, lists, inquiries take opinions make polls and at the end only one can occupy first place. And the number one music style known to human kind is rock an roll.(two guitars and one drum set) |
| The Real Wizard 24.09.2018 19:45 |
bucsateflon wrote: And the number one music style known to human kind is rock an roll.(two guitars and one drum set)Humankind in select places - not the entire world. Go to Brazil or sub-Saharan Africa and tell them all about how rock and roll is the most important genre of music ever. And if you're talking about North America (the biggest market for music), country and rap are far bigger than rock and roll now. bucsateflon wrote: he needed to be in a ROCK band of top level quality to achieve ultimate success as per (Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, Rolling Stones and Beatles)And Michael Jackson made Thriller, the biggest pop album of all time. Not a rock album. With drum machines and keyboards. Your willful ignorance is pretty well unparalleled. |
| Thistle 24.09.2018 22:11 |
This reminded me I haven't played Dingbats for a while. |
| Sealion 24.09.2018 22:59 |
Oh, at least you came back to the actual discussion, that my statement referred to. Instead of quoting me completely out of context and then ignoring the content of my replies. Yes, it was about the fact, that I don‘t agree, that performers of rock music are above every other performers. Just take a look at Michael Jackson. Or Freddie’s (or better Queen‘s) „Somebody to love“. And I would really appreciate it, if you (@bucsateflon) would stop to behave like an asshole in my direction. I don‘t know, what I have done to you, that you go on mocking my opinion in this thread and bumping it again and again for several pages. |
| bucsateflon 25.09.2018 07:59 |
The Real Wizard wrote: And if you're talking about North America (the biggest market for music), country and rap are far bigger than rock and roll now. And Michael Jackson made Thriller, the biggest pop album of all time. Not a rock album. With drum machines and keyboards."biggest pop album", country music and rap your arguments are pretty stupid... very stupid. |
| thomasquinn 32989 25.09.2018 08:02 |
The moron bucsateflon insists on putting more spotlights on his utter stupidity by countering arguments with more abuse. Abuse, the only thing he's capable of. And to think that he believes that anyone in the world takes his drivel seriously... |
| bucsateflon 25.09.2018 18:28 |
bitch you deserve to be slapped |
| The Real Wizard 25.09.2018 23:43 |
bucsateflon wrote:The fact that you don't like pop, country, and rap isn't an actual argument against what I (accurately) stated.The Real Wizard wrote: And if you're talking about North America (the biggest market for music), country and rap are far bigger than rock and roll now. And Michael Jackson made Thriller, the biggest pop album of all time. Not a rock album. With drum machines and keyboards."biggest pop album", country music and rap your arguments are pretty stupid... very stupid. You couldn't even be on a high school debate team. |
| Star* 26.09.2018 07:09 |
Queen's Greatest Hits still remains the biggest album ever in the Uk |
| Vocal harmony 26.09.2018 11:28 |
bucsateflon wrote:Whether I'm 12 or 112 I still, like many on here, have a broader view of music than you.Vocal harmony wrote: How about a big band line up or a rock band playing with a orchestra. What about a really tight fusion band, it's endless and if you're limited to only listening rock you really haven't heard nearly half the good stuff out there.Lol how old are you? you don't have to take it literally. You calling other members views and opinions stupid proves nothing in your argument other than to show your limitations. |
| Vocal harmony 26.09.2018 11:31 |
bucsateflon wrote: bitch you deserve to be slappedThat really got your musical views across. . . . Oh wait a minute, no it didn't. |
| bucsateflon 26.09.2018 20:55 |
Just because I knowledge ROCK as the ultimate form of music entertainment doesn't mean I don't listen to other types of music. dumb ass Queen are the greatest music act in the world ever because of their ROCK roots, all those other qualities add on but the foundation needs to be ROCK AND ROLL. Rock music gathers all the important elements in modern music to be the no.1 platform for an artist to ultimate greatness, no other style of music ever reached higher grounds overall than rock music. dumb asses...go to school! |
| The Real Wizard 26.09.2018 21:19 |
bucsateflon wrote: I knowledge ROCK as the ultimate form of music entertainmentThis is where any intelligent person stops reading. This is your opinion, not indisputable fact. |
| BETA215 28.09.2018 21:05 |
bucsateflon wrote: Queen was a full fledged rock band get it thru your tiny narrow brain, exceptions to the rule do not count on the whole. When you say something out of stupidity like "Queen was never a REAL rockband" its like saying Adam Lambert is not a real singer, or MJ was not a real pop star. Its pure insult put on writen words on the bands no1 community. SO, get the fuck outta here dumb girl and take with you that other one that said "Queen almost always presented themselves as a rock band on stage"Well, it's true. Queen was never a rock band, Adam is a surreal singer (more than real) and MJ was a superstar (not only pop). Stop denying the whole truth in front of your eyes. |
| Thistle 28.09.2018 22:32 |
bucsateflon wrote: I can't, I'm a retardand there you have it, BETA.... |
| bucsateflon 29.09.2018 18:18 |
BETA215 wrote: Well, it's true. Queen was never a rock bandGlad another idiot surfaced |
| Thistle 29.09.2018 21:22 |
bucsateflon wrote: Glad another idiot surfacedNope. Still just you and Happystar. |
| Star* 30.09.2018 07:43 |
Thistle: Get a grip man, you cannot comment on me because you have never met me. So dont be a sheep like the rest of this thwarted site use your head what is going on here - bullying. |
| Invisible Woman 30.09.2018 09:01 |
I said before, doesn't matter to me what the genre Queen are, I like their music. I think that Queen are rock band (and rock has many variants, there's many genres of rock). That's my opinion, I don't intend to prove anything. As far as I can see, every opportunity here is used for some kind of fight, insulting etc. No need for that. If we talk about the facts I would like somebody to explain why Queen are not rock band? What genre(s) they are then? And if we all agree that Queen are a rock band then what about so much discussion about it? |
| Star* 30.09.2018 14:11 |
invisible woman - yes absolutely Queen are regarded more of a rock n roll band than anything else, remember on the Hot Space tour when fans were moaning about Queen going into the funk black category and Freddie told the audience that Queen have not lost there rock n roll feel and that they were just trying a few new sounds out! Personally i loved everything Queen experimented with as long as it was the 4 members who were Queen i was a pig in muck lol |
| Thistle 30.09.2018 17:21 |
Happystar, who thinks he's "Mr. Right" (but isn't) wrote: Thistle: Get a grip man, you cannot comment on me because you have never met me. So dont be a sheep like the rest of this thwarted site use your head what is going on here - bullying.Having never met you is irrelevant. If you genuinely believe the shite you post here, you are a moron. I don't have to meet you to get that impression - you're painting that picture yourself. And I'm not bullying you. I started off politely disagreeing with you and instead of debating properly, you just repeated the same old drivel - even when it was pointed out to you that your views were flawed. I tried to remain patient and offered alternate views, pointing out that some of the "facts" that you tried to pass off were wrong. You didn't like it, got personal, and claimed bullying - all because you can't accept that someone disagreed with you. I gave you back what you dished out. I then felt a bit rotten and told you I'd be laying off. I went back to being patient and it seemed that you were acting civilly. We actually had some decent conversations. Since then, we've gone back to square one because you want to spam the board with anti AL stuff. WE FUCKING GET YOUR STANCE, YOU DON'T NEED TO RATTLE ON. I don't follow "the sheep". I have my own opinions, and I'll refer you back to the first paragraph of this post. |
| The Real Wizard 30.09.2018 21:50 |
Mr Right wrote: Get a grip man, you cannot comment on me because you have never met me.Don't you find it weird that 99% of the people on this forum have never met each other, yet they can coexist and discuss things rationally? So maybe the problem is just you. |
| The Real Wizard 30.09.2018 21:52 |
Mr Right wrote: Personally i loved everything Queen experimented with as long as it was the 4 members who were QueenYou don't realize how stupid this makes you look. Because you're clarifying that you're passing judgement on anything post-Made In Heaven before even listening to it, purely because of who's there / not there. You're just trying to shoehorn any slag against Adam Lambert wherever possible, like a petulant 8 year old child who just wants everyone to listen to them. You are a fool. |
| bucsateflon 01.10.2018 07:17 |
You should stop responding to that debil with 20241 posts, your only making him worse and worse, poor demented bastard... Now lets focus on the main subject some washy shallow girls said "Queen had never been a real rock band" Who subscribes to this stupid statement ? |
| The Real Wizard 01.10.2018 08:54 |
bucsateflon wrote: You should stop responding to that debil with 20241 postsHappy to make it 20242 to point out that you don't know how to spell. Why are you so obsessed with my post count? Do you not realize that every time you mention it, it will bring your post count closer to mine? |
| Star* 01.10.2018 10:32 |
Real Wizard : You are the one who can not discuss anything civil, you have to be rude and obnoxious and that is on every post you reply too. So i am not worried in the slightest because you have the problem not me. |
| The Real Wizard 01.10.2018 14:25 |
Mr Right wrote: I am the one who can not discuss anything civil, I have to be rude and obnoxious and that is on every post I reply too.Keep repeating it until you're blue in the face. It may make you feel better. |
| Star* 01.10.2018 14:35 |
I dont need to repeat any thing at all but i am always right first time ! |
| Thistle 01.10.2018 15:35 |
^ Aye okay, tit. You're not though. You're so not. |
| The Real Wizard 01.10.2018 15:59 |
Mr Right wrote: I dont need to repeat any thing at all but i am always right first time !What does that even mean? You strung some words together, but it makes no sense. If you think you're right the first time, then why do you repeat it a thousand times? To be "more right" ? |
| Star* 01.10.2018 17:27 |
Because i spread the word on here than Adam Lambert is not worthy, surely you can see that? |
| Thistle 01.10.2018 17:47 |
^ you are a fanny. Surely you can see that? |
| The Real Wizard 01.10.2018 18:17 |
Mr Right wrote: Because i spread the word on here than Adam Lambert is not worthy, surely you can see that?That's not "spreading the word". That's just being a douche bag. Nobody needs you spread that word. Aside from one or two misguided people on the internet, nobody actually thinks he's a better singer or frontman than Freddie Mercury. So maybe you should devote your life to a more worthy cause. The majority of sane and rational people, even if they don't like the collaboration, have moved on with their lives because they don't need to keep complaining to the internet ad nausea because the world isn't exactly as they want it to be. |
| Star* 01.10.2018 19:26 |
Real Wizard If everyone had your theory then we would just have no journalists in the world. I am sure you moan over things just like everybody else does. i fit in these opinions in certain posts if they are relevant, but if you do not like my posts then you do not have to reply back because many do not. You certainly do not like people over ruling your opinions but yet you have to over rule mine, so where is the fairness in that? Horses for courses junior! |
| The Real Wizard 01.10.2018 20:46 |
Mr Right wrote: Real Wizard If everyone had your theory then we would just have no journalists in the world. I am sure you moan over things just like everybody else does. i fit in these opinions in certain posts if they are relevant, but if you do not like my posts then you do not have to reply back because many do not. You certainly do not like people over ruling your opinions but yet you have to over rule mine, so where is the fairness in that? Horses for courses junior!That drivel made absolutely no sense. Journalism isn't about opinions or complaining - it's about accurately conveying information to the public. But you wouldn't understand this, as you have made it clear countless times that you do not understand the difference between an opinion and a fact. And you also don't understand the art of knowing your audience, and that forums don't exist for your own personal amusement at the expense of civility. If everyone just shoehorned every unfiltered thought they had onto a forum, then it would be absolute chaos. But once again, you lack the basic ability to see why you differ from rational and nuanced people who think twice before they speak, which renders you unable to see why you encounter so much opposition here from people who are smarter than you are. |
| Star* 02.10.2018 10:55 |
Wizard Well you certainly are not that smart bullying on here, that makes you a very insecure person who takes out his frustration on somebody else instead of moving on and ignoring that comment. You like the limelight on here and we can all see that, so you cause a riot with your sarky comments and try to be smart and clever but i can see through you, i know exactly what sort of person you are and you are not a happy one at that. Do yourself a favour instead of slagging peoples posts off and insulting them about there grammar look closer to home because that is where the real problem is. Move on if you do not agree with my comments, most people on here are stable enough to do that except you and a few others who like to form a little gang, when the gang is on its own then they become cowards! I come here to discuss the music not to trade insults with folk unless they insult me first like you have. |
| Vocal harmony 02.10.2018 11:12 |
Mr Right wrote: Real Wizard If everyone had your theory then we would just have no journalists in the world. . . . . . . . . . . . but if you do not like my posts then you do not have to reply back because many do not. You certainly do not like people over ruling your opinions but yet you have to over rule mine, so where is the fairness in that? Horses for courses junior!If everyone followed Mr Wizards point there maybe less room for gutter journalism. The very thing you, in the past, accused me of being. So in your deluded mind any journalism is ok as long as it fits your narrowband of beliefs. "If you do not like my posts then why do you reply" stupid question given that you constantly reply to everything you don't like. Over ruling opinions requires a position of authority (in knowledge, eduction and civility) over the subject and or person presenting it. You possess none of these so are unable, unlike Mr Wizard, to occupy the high ground in any debate, argument or discussion. |
| The Real Wizard 02.10.2018 13:38 |
Mr Right wrote: Wizard Well you certainly are not that smart bullying on here, that makes you a very insecure person who takes out his frustration on somebody else instead of moving on and ignoring that comment. You like the limelight on here and we can all see that, so you cause a riot with your sarky comments and try to be smart and clever but i can see through you, i know exactly what sort of person you are and you are not a happy one at that. Do yourself a favour instead of slagging peoples posts off and insulting them about there grammar look closer to home because that is where the real problem is. Move on if you do not agree with my comments, most people on here are stable enough to do that except you and a few others who like to form a little gang, when the gang is on its own then they become cowards! I come here to discuss the music not to trade insults with folk unless they insult me first like you have.You have threatened people on here numerous times, and have been banned several times because of it. Who are you trying to kid with your revisionist history? You are a textbook case of narcissism personality disorder, projecting your insecurities and scummy nature onto others. You are in the trash heap of humanity. Instead of trolling internet forums, seek help. |
| Star* 02.10.2018 16:37 |
Wizard You are so bitter and jealous of me i can see that. i am the better man here because i do not have to resort to your pond life level. Carry on calling me names but you are just showing yourself up on here and folk will realise you are not that squeaky clean canadian they once thought! You are a joke with your arrogant authority on here and put me downs. i dont give a flying fuck what you think of me so stop wasting your time and go and get help. You are deluded and away with the fairies. Now i am moving away from this thread since i am the better man cheerio sucker ! |
| Thistle 02.10.2018 23:38 |
^ That won't last. You'll be back to reply with more drivel soon. |
| runner_70 03.10.2018 07:22 |
Mr Right wrote: Wizard You are so bitter and jealous of me i can see that. i am the better man here because i do not have to resort to your pond life level. Carry on calling me names but you are just showing yourself up on here and folk will realise you are not that squeaky clean canadian they once thought! You are a joke with your arrogant authority on here and put me downs. i dont give a flying fuck what you think of me so stop wasting your time and go and get help. You are deluded and away with the fairies. Now i am moving away from this thread since i am the better man cheerio sucker !Better ignore people with no lives like Wizard. He/she/it is an ass |
| Vocal harmony 03.10.2018 10:16 |
Mr Right wrote: Wizard You are so bitter and jealous of me i can see that. i am the better man here because i do not have to resort to your pond life level. Carry on calling me names but you are just showing yourself up on here and folk will realise you are not that squeaky clean canadian they once thought! You are a joke with your arrogant authority on here and put me downs. i dont give a flying fuck what you think of me so stop wasting your time and go and get help. You are deluded and away with the fairies. Now i am moving away from this thread since i am the better man cheerio sucker !You don't give a fuck, yet you still have to rant about it. What a silly little fool you are. Everyone on here has seen you for being the person your accusing Mr Wizard of being. At the moment there appears to be three of you who constantly air blinkered narrow minded and hostile views and attempt to then claim you have the moral high ground, or sheer weight of numbers backing your idiotic outbursts. |
| Star* 03.10.2018 12:25 |
Vocal Harmony You are becoming rather boring yawn yawn yawn Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Nice to see you defending your perverted arrogant obnoxious pal. Bless ! |
| Thistle 03.10.2018 13:32 |
^ told you you'd be back commenting soon. So much for leaving the thread because you're "the better man". You're an utter tool, that's what you are. |
