| flash00. 04.09.2018 02:49 |
Hmm...Brian are you sure? I don't think Freddie would be too happy at you saying he would be jealous, I think Freddie would respect Adam the gift from god as a singer but jealous? i think it would be the other way around when Freddie's voice was at it's best, the closest to Freddie's voice was George Michael i.e Somebody To Love. The more i read these things from Brian the more he sound's terrified Lambert is gonna get bored and walk and join the Scissor Sisters. It got me thinking, I'm probably wrong but can anyone remember in Freddie's whole career with Queen if Brian ever made similar compliments if any about Freddie, I cant actually think of any? I don't mean after Freddie passed away. Anyway give it a read. link |
| NastyQueenie74 04.09.2018 03:23 |
And now Freddie's spirit is determined to somehow give Ol' Glambert nodules of his own |
| Invisible Woman 04.09.2018 06:06 |
No one knows what today Freddie would like, whether he would be jealous etc. Sometimes I think Brian is allways trying to show how he knew him so much, how big friends they were, how he know what Freddie would be think, what would be Freddie said, etc. Still, Brian has the right to say what he wants. And I have the right to say that Adam's voice doesn't much impress me. |
| Sebastian 04.09.2018 07:41 |
Frederick loved life, as far as those who knew him have said. In that sense, he'd probably be jealous of everybody who, unlike him, is still alive. So yes, in that sense he'd be jealous of Adam, and you, and myself, and everyone else here. Would he be jealous of Adam as a singer? I've no idea - perhaps he would, or perhaps it's like the times Brian has claimed without 'Hot Space' there'd be no 'Thriller'. |
| Sealion 04.09.2018 08:59 |
Here is a more truthful write-up of what Brian really said. This article was done by the interviewer herself. I remember that interview, because it came up last week, but is originally from Brian‘s book tour last year. The interviewer only just released that snipped. The filmed interview has unfortunately been deleted, it was in the first video frame on this site. link Quote from the article: In the Queen in 3-D book, May jokingly writes that late Queen legend Freddie Mercury would almost be downright jealous of his successor’s vocal prowess. “Freddie would love and hate him, yeah; I mean, you know, he’d be like, ‘You bastard!’” May quips. “Because, I mean, Adam has a real gift from God. That voice is a voice in a billion, and nobody has that range, nobody that I’ve ever worked with. And not just the range but the quality throughout the range and the passion to use that instrument. And I’ve seen Adam develop, just like I watched Freddie develop. … He was great to start with, but now, we’re doing something like ‘Who Wants to Live Forever’ onstage, and sometimes I almost stop playing because I think, ‘What did he just do?’ He’s so free with his interpretations, and it’s spine-chilling, just the sound he makes and the way he interprets a song.” While May stresses that Lambert “in no sense imitates Freddie” — a point that Lambert, a huge Queen fan himself, makes humbly every night onstage — May explains that Lambert “provides that piece of the jigsaw puzzle, which is, I mean, stupendous. We would never be doing this now if it weren’t for Adam.’ “It’s an incredible life. I feel so grateful that [Queen] had it. And we still have it.” |
| Sealion 04.09.2018 09:00 |
So you see, that Brian said, Freddie would be ALMOST jealous. ;-) |
| Dr Magus 04.09.2018 10:03 |
Freddie would be jealous of adam in the same way he was jealous of Paul Rodgers - ie not at all. |
| Riku M 04.09.2018 15:25 |
One thing would probably make Freddie a little jelous and that is Adam's consistancy as a live singer. Freddie had concerts (and tours) where he sounded pretty bad. Adam is much more stable and has the same impressive live range night after night. I do prefere Freddie's tone though... |
| MercurialFreddie 04.09.2018 16:17 |
@Riku M, yeah but you must remember that Freddie had no proper vocal training while Adam has that minus nodules and surely his coach taught him how to take care of his voice... |
| Sealion 04.09.2018 18:31 |
MercurialFreddie wrote: @Riku M, yeah but you must remember that Freddie had no proper vocal training while Adam has that minus nodules and surely his coach taught him how to take care of his voice...Sure. Freddies voice was great and impressive. And more refind before his nodules. Still, I'm with Brian: Freddie would be jealous, because Adam knows and uses vocal techniques, that even most classical singers are not able to use. I don't mean the range, that's impressive, but nothing too special. What's most impressive is, how Lambert is able to wander up and down through that range in a way, that you don't hear him changing "gears". There is much more to it, but all in all, he makes his singing look/sound so effortless, that a casual listener has no idea, how much work it must have been to sing like that. And work would have not been enough. As Brian said, that voice in itself is a gift from god. And Lambert has learnt to use it in an almost perfect way. Freddie would be impressed by that, he loved to learn to sing better and was interested in opera and singing as that.Lambert is probably the best singer in western pop/rock culture at the moment. And I dare to say, that not many classical singers can keep up with him. So, there is no shame, to look up to him as a singer. And again: All that doesn't count, if you don't like him or his tone. Freddie was Freddie, the legend, the original singer, great performer and also writer of many of these songs. And as much as he would certainly envy Adam for his voice: I'm sure, AL is jealous of Freddies ability to just sit down on his piano and write a great song. ;) |
| rockchic65 04.09.2018 18:58 |
Sealion wrote:I'd agree with that and Adam has actually said he envied Freddie's deeper throatier sound, there's always something you feel someone does better.MercurialFreddie wrote: @Riku M, yeah but you must remember that Freddie had no proper vocal training while Adam has that minus nodules and surely his coach taught him how to take care of his voice...Sure. Freddies voice was great and impressive. And more refind before his nodules. Still, I'm with Brian: Freddie would be jealous, because Adam knows and uses vocal techniques, that even most classical singers are not able to use. I don't mean the range, that's impressive, but nothing too special. What's most impressive is, how Lambert is able to wander up and down through that range in a way, that you don't hear him changing "gears". There is much more to it, but all in all, he makes his singing look/sound so effortless, that a casual listener has no idea, how much work it must have been to sing like that. And work would have not been enough. As Brian said, that voice in itself is a gift from god. And Lambert has learnt to use it in an almost perfect way. Freddie would be impressed by that, he loved to learn to sing better and was interested in opera and singing as that.Lambert is probably the best singer in western pop/rock culture at the moment. And I dare to say, that not many classical singers can keep up with him. So, there is no shame, to look up to him as a singer. And again: All that doesn't count, if you don't like him or his tone. Freddie was Freddie, the legend, the original singer, great performer and also writer of many of these songs. And as much as he would certainly envy Adam for his voice: I'm sure, AL is jealous of Freddies ability to just sit down on his piano and write a great song. ;) Regarding Adam's voice it's true he's worked at it for years, his early vocal coach said he used to come in and want to know how he made the sounds he did and all the nuts and bolts of how the voice worked etc, she said he studied it like a musician would study an instrument so it's no surprise he has such control and technique and I'm glad you mentioned his seamless register blending, that's probably the thing I love most about his voice, it makes it sound so smooth and effortless. |
| fruhzs 04.09.2018 22:40 |
Personally, even though I respect Adam’s singing abilities, and have even went to see them play live once, there’s really no comparison. It’s like comparing something unique in its own right in many ways (Freddie) with something fairly competent but more “ordinary” in a sense. And I know ordinary may be not the best word to describe (English isn’t my first language), as Adam is indeed a great singer and has a very good technique. However, I don’t feel I’m listening to something unique and special when I hear him, not only with Queen but also with his original material or other covers. It lacks a bit of IT factor for me, a proper own style and “voice charisma” if that makes any sense. There are singers who are very less gifted than him and Freddie, and have more personality in their voices and make them more special to listen to than Adam imo, like even Paul Rodgers for example. Singing on those concerts is not only about hitting the notes, having a great range and proper technique imo. It’s about “selling a song”, interpreting it and adding soul to the music, making it unique. That’s what makes certain artists shine and others not so much. Imo he translates well into some Queen songs, but not all of them, And that’s brings me to some of the reasons why I think Freddie was a better singer (and much better front man), cause he was unique. His tone was better, he had more than good enough range when not I’ll (impressive range when not I’ll actially), he interpreted the songs with a lot of heart and passion, knew when and how to made them simple, and he was much more versatile as a singer imo. Actually maybe IMO one of the more verstaile singers ever. How many singers you can picture singing stuff as Lily of The Valley, and Gimme the Prize? So differently that some might not notice it’s the same singer? Any of us could list a vast number of such different songs where Freddie interpreted them in so many different ways, using different nuances, techniques, approaches, etc. His delivery was unique and it’s not a coincidence he will be remember forever. A lot of people who are not into Queen see him as a singer icon, and don’t even acknowledge his song writing skills. That’s how good of a singer he was. |
| user1 05.09.2018 05:02 |
@ Brian May: Please die soon. You're ruining the legacy of what was one of the biggest bands in the world. Many thanks. |
| dysan 05.09.2018 06:29 |
It's quite obviously a playful comment - I can fully imagine Freddie saying that in the same way he's jokingly say something rude to an audience who have just outsung him during his little dayooh bit. And they all smile and joke about it. No one is questioning his ability. I'm sure Bowie said 'you bastard!' in a playful way when Freddie out sung him during Under Pressure. 'How on earth did you do that Freddie darling?? You bastard!' |
| Iron Butterfly 05.09.2018 07:55 |
I almost think Brian is jealous of Freddie ;-). |
| Iron Butterfly 05.09.2018 07:58 |
user1 wrote: @ Brian May: Please die soon. You're ruining the legacy of what was one of the biggest bands in the world. Many thanks.I hope you are kidding about the "please die soon". O.o |
| Dr Magus 05.09.2018 09:32 |
Iron Butterfly wrote:The sooner they all die the sooner we can have our anthology box sets!user1 wrote: @ Brian May: Please die soon. You're ruining the legacy of what was one of the biggest bands in the world. Many thanks.I hope you are kidding about the "please die soon". O.o |
| Sealion 05.09.2018 10:36 |
Dr Magus wrote:The sooner you die, the sooner we won‘t have to read such shameful comments.Iron Butterfly wrote:The sooner they all die the sooner we can have our anthology box sets!user1 wrote: @ Brian May: Please die soon. You're ruining the legacy of what was one of the biggest bands in the world. Many thanks.I hope you are kidding about the "please die soon". O.o Funny, ey? |
| aristide1 05.09.2018 13:03 |
There is nothing even remotely outrageous in this feel good small talk interview, on the contrary. I see the speculation about Freddie's thoughts as a reflection of Brian's genuine concern not to offend his legacy, by carefully choosing a vocalist to measure up to expectations. This is one version. The other is that Brian has perfected the art of bullshitting to such level that even he could not distinguish the truth beneath. |
| Day dop 05.09.2018 17:52 |
Lambert can hit the high notes (but so could Roger Taylor back when), but it's still a horrible voice. |
| Day dop 05.09.2018 17:58 |
All too often these days, you hear "Freddie would've thought..." or "Freddie would've loved..." and now it's "Freddie would've hated". To me, it seems to be people saying what they'd like Freddie to think, including Brian. |
| Grantcdn1 06.09.2018 01:40 |
I think Brian’s comment is somewhat sincere in that Freddie may have appreciated some aspect of Adam’s voice...Freddie did appreciate other artists...ie Aretha Franklin, Hendrix as a performer etc.... Adam may be able to hit some notes live more consistently....but Freddie just adjusted his key to deliver the songs in the best way possible..and to make it his own....there is no comparison whatsoever.....I know Adam can sing but nothing sounds as good as Freddie.... As a frontman Freddie was was his awesome spontaneous self...Adam’s set seems very contrived putting this act out there every night....I thought Paul on the other hand was genuine I think also Brian when talking to the media he is trying to encourage people to go to their shows in spite of Adam for those that would be hesitant because it is Adam |
| Sebastian 06.09.2018 12:24 |
Day dop wrote: All too often these days, you hear "Freddie would've thought..." or "Freddie would've loved..." and now it's "Freddie would've hated". To me, it seems to be people saying what they'd like Freddie to think, including Brian.I agree, but having people speculating over what he would've thought would've been Frederick's favourite legacy. |
| mike hunt 06.09.2018 13:43 |
fruhzs wrote: Personally, even though I respect Adam’s singing abilities, and have even went to see them play live once, there’s really no comparison. It’s like comparing something unique in its own right in many ways (Freddie) with something fairly competent but more “ordinary” in a sense. And I know ordinary may be not the best word to describe (English isn’t my first language), as Adam is indeed a great singer and has a very good technique. However, I don’t feel I’m listening to something unique and special when I hear him, not only with Queen but also with his original material or other covers. It lacks a bit of IT factor for me, a proper own style and “voice charisma” if that makes any sense. There are singers who are very less gifted than him and Freddie, and have more personality in their voices and make them more special to listen to than Adam imo, like even Paul Rodgers for example. Singing on those concerts is not only about hitting the notes, having a great range and proper technique imo. It’s about “selling a song”, interpreting it and adding soul to the music, making it unique. That’s what makes certain artists shine and others not so much. Imo he translates well into some Queen songs, but not all of them, And that’s brings me to some of the reasons why I think Freddie was a better singer (and much better front man), cause he was unique. His tone was better, he had more than good enough range when not I’ll (impressive range when not I’ll actially), he interpreted the songs with a lot of heart and passion, knew when and how to made them simple, and he was much more versatile as a singer imo. Actually maybe IMO one of the more verstaile singers ever. How many singers you can picture singing stuff as Lily of The Valley, and Gimme the Prize? So differently that some might not notice it’s the same singer? Any of us could list a vast number of such different songs where Freddie interpreted them in so many different ways, using different nuances, techniques, approaches, etc. His delivery was unique and it’s not a coincidence he will be remember forever. A lot of people who are not into Queen see him as a singer icon, and don’t even acknowledge his song writing skills. That’s how good of a singer he was.perfectly said my friend! people please read this post and save it because it really sums it up...So I won't add much here. Listen to Neil Fallon from Clutch. A perfect example of a singer who doesn't sing smooth or hit high notes but I consider him a better singer than Adam. I don't hate the guy, but he's lacking something. |
| runner_70 06.09.2018 21:28 |
Sebastian wrote:THe lunatic calling Freddie "Frederick" - stil trying to be a smartass ??Day dop wrote: All too often these days, you hear "Freddie would've thought..." or "Freddie would've loved..." and now it's "Freddie would've hated". To me, it seems to be people saying what they'd like Freddie to think, including Brian.I agree, but having people speculating over what he would've thought would've been Frederick's favourite legacy. |
| Golden Salmon 06.09.2018 21:42 |
So, anyone looking forward to the movie's post-credits scene with Adam Lambert? They're trying to build a cinematic universe here. |
| FunLovinCriminal 06.09.2018 22:28 |
Why would May say something like this anyway? Didn't he realise that Nick Mason from Pink Floyd had always been the true singer in Queen? |
| Iron Butterfly 07.09.2018 07:47 |
Golden Salmon wrote: So, anyone looking forward to the movie's post-credits scene with Adam Lambert? They're trying to build a cinematic universe here.I have a feeling the powers that be will squeeze AL in there somehow. Rumor was and still is that he had or has a cameo in it. |
| john bodega 07.09.2018 08:55 |
There'll be a scene where Freddie comes out of the smoke during a Q+AL show and shakes his hand and says 'not bad, kid' or 'follow your dreams' or some shit. |
| runner_70 07.09.2018 09:04 |
Regarding that Maylor have lost the plot by now it is VERY likely |
| Iron Butterfly 07.09.2018 09:07 |
john bodega wrote: There'll be a scene where Freddie comes out of the smoke during a Q+AL show and shakes his hand and says 'not bad, kid' or 'follow your dreams' or some shit.Good thing the movie is finished filming...because I wouldn't put it past the powers that be to do that. |
| rockchic65 07.09.2018 09:11 |
john bodega wrote: There'll be a scene where Freddie comes out of the smoke during a Q+AL show and shakes his hand and says 'not bad, kid' or 'follow your dreams' or some shit.Ha ha, that would be funny, completely inappropriate but.... Nah, he was rumoured to have a cameo where he looked like some guy at a truck stop. |
| runner_70 07.09.2018 11:26 |
rockchic65 wrote:Maybe thats a hint of his future career - selling burgers to truckers.john bodega wrote: There'll be a scene where Freddie comes out of the smoke during a Q+AL show and shakes his hand and says 'not bad, kid' or 'follow your dreams' or some shit.Ha ha, that would be funny, completely inappropriate but.... Nah, he was rumoured to have a cameo where he looked like some guy at a truck stop. |
| Sebastian 07.09.2018 14:50 |
Selling burgers to truckers was Frederick's favourite career choice. |
| runner_70 07.09.2018 18:12 |
Sebastian wrote: Selling burgers to truckers was Frederick's favourite career choice.Fuck off with your Frederick you sad lil prick. Not even Freddie's mum called him that you fucking asshole |
| Sebastian 07.09.2018 19:02 |
Frederick wouldn't have approved of that sort of language. Or, come to think about it, perhaps Frederick would. I never met Frederick, so no idea. By the way, I've no idea what Frederick's mum called Frederick, but that's got no bearing on whether or not I choose to refer to Frederick as Frederick. |
| runner_70 07.09.2018 20:48 |
Fuck you asswhipe |
| Sebastian 07.09.2018 21:53 |
I'm not gonna do that, but thank you for making me such an important part of your life. Frederick would be proud. Or perhaps Frederick wouldn't be proud. I never met Frederick, and I've no idea what Frederick would've made of this situation. |
| runner_70 08.09.2018 06:18 |
You clearly have issues |
| Sebastian 08.09.2018 12:30 |
Says the person who goes apeshit just because someone they don't know uses a name they disagree with. Frederick would be ashamed of you... or maybe Frederick wouldn't be ashamed, since Frederick wouldn't read these posts as this forum was created after Frederick died. Poor Frederick... so talented, gone so soon. |
| Chopin1995 08.09.2018 21:20 |
So Frederick wasn't Frederick's favourite name then? |
| Sebastian 08.09.2018 23:29 |
I honestly have no idea. Frederick may have had a favourite name, but there's nothing to indicate whether or not Frederick was Frederick's favourite name. What I do know, however, is that if Frederick was Frederick's favourite name, then Frederick's favourite name was Frederick. Which obviously makes sense as I said the same thing twice... but Frederick loved redundancy... or perhaps Frederick didn't love redundancy. I don't know, since I never met Frederick, and even if Frederick were here, it's hard to tell what Frederick would've thought of this Frederick thread. |
| Chopin1995 09.09.2018 21:42 |
Sebastian wrote: What I do know, however, is that if Frederick was Frederick's favourite name, then Frederick's favourite name was Frederick.That makes perfect sense to me! |
| Sebastian 09.09.2018 22:57 |
Yeah, it's a statement shaped like itself. Frederick was also shaped like himself. |
| JomaDuckSoup 10.09.2018 14:24 |
Well, there's more to Freddie than his (extraordinary) vocie. He was a brilliant musician, writing wonderful songs. Brian (used to be) a good writer, but Freddie is in a different league. Complex music - easy to sing along for anybody and everybody (WATC). Having a stadium audience in the palm of his hand. So, a combination of rare talents. AL is not bad, but will never be as good as Freddie. No matter how many octaves he can sing. |
| mike hunt 10.09.2018 14:26 |
I agree.... |
| Dean_ 11.09.2018 00:13 |
Fair play to Adam for doing what he does. There's an audience out there for him and Brian and Roger seem to love him. However, I'd gladly take Fred on his worst day than Adam on his best day. The way Freddie delivered the songs, his charisma etc. he was everything a frontman should be. Queen songs deserve to be played live and I'm beyond delighted Brian and Roger have found someone that they feel do justice to the songs. I've seen them once with Adam and once with Rodgers. That's enough for me, I'm more than happy going back over the albums/live recordings. |
| Day dop 13.09.2018 21:26 |
I don't think Lambert will be topping any best rock singer polls anytime soon. Nor do I think any there'll be any scientific studies on his voice. |