| k-m 15.08.2018 19:01 |
Anyone else seen it? link Three interesting facts: - The film will be "a Brian Singer film" (85% his) - Mary Austin did not allow filming in Garden Lodge (surprise, surprise...) - It will mention his Zanzibar days Once again, it looks like they messed up the chronology even more (Freddie moved in to GL after Live Aid, right? Or am I wrong?). The only comforting thing I heard was that Singer did actually have a go at Freestone once for telling him the same whitewashed shit over and over again. A glimpse of hope... Imagine if Peter directed it... Would be like watching National Geographic. |
| Michael 15.08.2018 21:21 |
Interesting. Thank you. |
| sahm 16.08.2018 07:19 |
thanks for that mate |
| Dr Magus 16.08.2018 09:24 |
I was shocked to discover Brad Pitt cast as Paul Gambaccini. |
| SweetCaroline 16.08.2018 21:52 |
Ben Hardy as Roger: link |
| MisterCosmicc 17.08.2018 02:55 |
I wish he’d go on a diet. Worried about him! |
| Star* 17.08.2018 09:24 |
Mary Austin ! Well there is one bitter lemon who is spiteful and lets be frank here, she would be in a council house if it was not for Freddie's kind heart and generosity. |
| MercurialFreddie 17.08.2018 11:55 |
@MisterCosmicc I thought the same. His belly is even bigger than last year! |
| goose44 17.08.2018 13:39 |
Mary has probably been harassed over and over again for the last 27 years by anyone and everyone. If Deaky can stay away, I guess Mary can as well. Plus if a film crew was allowed there, they would want to change shit around so would you want someone messing up your house for a movie? |
| Vocal harmony 17.08.2018 13:51 |
happystar wrote: Mary Austin ! Well there is one bitter lemon who is spiteful and lets be frank here, she would be in a council house if it was not for Freddie's kind heart and generosity.You don't know her so your not qualified to make that judgement. Would you want a full on film crew in your home, with all the equipment trucks, catering trailer, mobile dressing rooms etc parked outside, plus as has been pointed out, all the upheaval of having things moved and your house generally invaded. Of course you would, your happystar! Most people wouldn't Oh yeah, she probably turned down a fairly good payment buy saying no as well. |
| Star* 17.08.2018 15:32 |
Oh excuse me for speaking, lord tut ! I can make any judgement i want and you cannot stop me. Do one ! |
| Invisible Woman 17.08.2018 17:33 |
If people has the right to give their opinion only about people they know, then topics for talk, including forum topics, will be run out quickly. None of us for obvious reasons couldn't have known, for example, Leonardo da Vinci but why I wouldn't have some opinion about him? I don't know why some people are so sensitive with opinions about Mary. Why would everyone must to have a good opinion about her? |
| Star* 17.08.2018 20:11 |
invisible woman Yes it seems any of my opinions get trashed and then a backlash happens. The people on here are self centred and arrogant and very unstable and do not like to read the obvious truth. |
| Thistle 17.08.2018 22:40 |
But what is his opinion based on? Mary didn't want filming - how does that make her bitter? And what if she had have ended up in a council house? What the feck has that got to do with anyone? Plus...no-one said he couldn't make the judgement. The question was whether or not he was qualified to do so. He doesn't know Mary, so he shouldn't assume that he does (to borrow words from his own mouth!). |
| emrabt 18.08.2018 06:30 |
I'm pretty sure she owned a house before being given garden lodge, she was in her 40's with her own life, job and family when that happened, there's a big gap between living in Mercury's London flat with him in the 70's and getting garden lodge. |
| Star* 18.08.2018 06:45 |
Thistleboy Mary Austin should have let the film crew use Garden Lodge as i am sure Freddie would have been flattered that a film about his musical career was been made. Mary always gave me the impression that she was spiteful and ungrateful for he fortune Freddie left her not to mention when she kicked Freddie's staff out of the house and Jim Hutton but that is another story. She is not a popular woman on facebook i can tell you. |
| emrabt 18.08.2018 06:59 |
happystar wrote: Freddie's kind heart and generosity.Or maybe, just maybe Freddie felt guilty for getting a woman's hopes up with marriage while at the same time cheating on her nightly with men and the 'generosity' came from a place of guilt? He wasn't always a nice guy. |
| Star* 18.08.2018 09:18 |
Emrabt : Mary knew where she stood with Freddie as he was honest with her and told her he was gay. More like She used him as any other woman would have walked away but she knew he had money so she tagged along....... Freddie was not a bad guy quiet the opposite, very shy and extremely generous. I know people who have met Freddie and they all say he was a lovely gentle king man. Freddie was so vein that Mary sucked him into a sense of false security and now that bitter woman got most of his fortune. Jim Hutton was the only true person Freddie found complete happiness and love with. |
| Qubus 18.08.2018 09:32 |
^ Maybe he just felt that she deserved the lion's share of his estate, being his "soulmate" for most of his adult life. His relationship with Hutton was much more recent and seems to have been less stable. There was a time in the summer of 1990 when they almost split up. |
| emrabt 18.08.2018 09:50 |
Happystar, do you actually know the history of their (Freddie and Mary's) relationship? He proposed to her and led her along for a long time before telling her not to buy a wedding dress as he'd 'lost interest', he was cheating on her a long time before she confronted him suspecting another woman and they came to terms with his sexuality. While they remained very close what he did while he was supposed to be with her WAS horrible and I'd be surprised if there was no guilt on his part for it. Whitewashing all the bad stuff out of history isn't good, Freddie was human, Freddie was flawed, he wasn't always nice. |
| Star* 18.08.2018 11:02 |
Never heard anything about Freddie proposing, i did read lots of times about Mary wanting Freddies baby but he said he would rather have another cat, so with that comment i doubt very much he would have proposed to her. Sheer speculation i guess. Yes Freddie was human but he was honest with her around 1975 and he did tell her he was gay. |
| Thistle 18.08.2018 11:11 |
Freddie was known for being a very private man. Would he have been flattered? I doubt it. Would he havwe wanted filming in GL? I doubt it. I couldn't care less what "Facebook" thinks of Mary. The story is well known, and you being the ardent fan still had to have it pointed out to you. You just open your flaps, don't you? |
| emrabt 18.08.2018 11:20 |
happystar wrote: Never heard anything about Freddie proposingWell if you've never heard of it I guess it never happened... I guess people are lying.... You are of course the go to source for Freddie information, and much more accurate than people who actually knew the man! Not only did he propose he also apparently learnt sign language to ask Mary's father for permission... |
| Star* 18.08.2018 11:57 |
Embrant: All very sarcastic comments , and to be honest i am not bothered what you or Thistleprick on here thinks, so bye bye. |
| emrabt 18.08.2018 12:16 |
Embrant? I want a better nick name more inline with Thistleprick's. |
| Invisible Woman 18.08.2018 13:19 |
How and why Mary inherited most of his wealth we will never know. There are a lot of books, interviews, and documentaries, but is everything that's been said to be true? Everyone has a some own point of view and we can have our opinion, why not? My opinion is that with the help of Queen management and newspapers she had created her role in Freddie's life for the public. Even today she has that role. Reading Jim's book I came to the conclusion that she had some influence at Freddie when he almost split up with Jim in 1990. She transmitted Freddie's messages to Jim when they not talking to each other. 1986 also. Freddie told her over the phone to tell Jim to pick up his things and leave Garden Lodge, and she told him that. Real friend would never do it, but would say, "If you have something to tell to your boyfriend tell him in the face, such serious things are not going to this way". It doesn't have to be every word what Jim said in the book true and, of course, there are many persons who don't believe him but I believe him. Of course that Freddie wasn't allways nice but Mary wasn't allways nice also. After all, like every human being. Nobody is perfect, nobody is saint. Nothing is allways black or white. I go back to the subject. If "Bohemian Rhapsody" movie not include Freddie's life after Live Aid why would be filming at Garden Lodge at all? |
| Vocal harmony 18.08.2018 15:51 |
Invisible Woman wrote: If people has the right to give their opinion only about people they know, then topics for talk, including forum topics, will be run out quickly. None of us for obvious reasons couldn't have known, for example, Leonardo da Vinci but why I wouldn't have some opinion about him? I don't know why some people are so sensitive with opinions about Mary. Why would everyone must to have a good opinion about her?Yes you're right of course, but having an opinion based on something tangible is a lot different to spouting something nasty or even hateful. People post what they think, very little is based on what is known, by them or in general. I met Mary Austin twice, a long-time ago. She seemed very nice, very focussed and very polite. Anymore than that I couldn't tell you because I don't know. I'd love to hear how the opinion about her being bitter etc was formed, especially coming from someone who hasn't met her and has a history of posting insults. |
| Star* 18.08.2018 17:27 |
Well let me explain, Have you spoken to Freds staff who got there marching orders after Fred died and even Jim Hutton was treated unfairly by Mary and from what i have read She was very nasty and bitchy towards the staff, not the sweet little innocent flower many make her out to be. And a couple of years ago Garden Lodge was a no go area for fans when she stopped fans visiting Freddie's former mansion. |
| emrabt 18.08.2018 17:36 |
happystar wrote: And a couple of years ago Garden Lodge was a no go area for fans when she stopped fans visiting Freddie's former mansion.She hasn't stopped people visiting the house, it's in a public street, you can no longer park in the street unless you are a resident but Mary didn't make that rule London council did.... Maybe you should start getting your information from places other than random people on facebook. If you are talking about going inside the house, The public have never been allowed in, it's not a new thing. |
| Star* 18.08.2018 17:45 |
Emrabt It was Mary that made that decision to stop Freddies fans from congregating outside the house. Nothing to do with London council. Nasty hairy Mary. |
| emrabt 18.08.2018 17:48 |
It's a public street, there are car parks not too far from Garden lodge, you can literally park around the corner and visit the famous wall. YOu can no longer park 15 cars along the road and block traffic. |
| jrd1951 18.08.2018 17:50 |
A lot of hate for Mary here.She was obviously very special to Freddie otherwise he wouldn't have left her the house and his recording publishing(she was the secretary of Goose productions).I have met her a few times casually walking past the house and she politely smiled and said hello.She was there at the very beginning when they had nothing,did his make up and looked after his affairs.I hope the movie portrays this,And I doubt very much that Mary looks at 'Facebook' or would have any interest in it.Freddie would certainly not.Must be tough for her in that house,can't imagine her having any 'Raves' in there anytime soon,but look like it has been beautifully kept,who would want a film crew in there? |
| Star* 18.08.2018 21:34 |
Oh poor Mary she must have it tough in that mansion poor flower. Thousands are homeless and there she is struggling in a rock legends house. My heart bleeds (not) |
| emrabt 18.08.2018 21:54 |
Cecil Rea had the bloody house built, the absolute rich victorian bastard, painting his works of art while jack the ripper was running wild! |
| queenUSA 19.08.2018 05:26 |
“Oh poor Mary she must have it tough in that mansion poor flower. Thousands are homeless and there she is struggling in a rock legends house. My heart bleeds (not)” I get the snarky humor. But this is the location where Freddie lived and died. Down the hall in that house. That can’t be insignificant to step around and live with. How do you redecorate around an event so crushing as that? An easy stay it is not. Also her marriage failed in that house, can’t be easy for her ex to be in Freddie’s shadow night and day and be reminded of what they were to one another for many years. Would anyone want to be compared to Freddie Mercury on a daily basis? At any rate, 50 years after his death the ownership of the house reverts back to the estate. She might be in her 90’s then if still around. Kind of late in life to move. |
| queenUSA 19.08.2018 05:26 |
“Oh poor Mary she must have it tough in that mansion poor flower. Thousands are homeless and there she is struggling in a rock legends house. My heart bleeds (not)” I get the snarky humor. But this is the location where Freddie lived and died. Down the hall in that house. That can’t be insignificant to step around and live with. How do you redecorate around an event so crushing as that? An easy stay it is not. Also her marriage failed in that house, can’t be easy for her ex to be in Freddie’s shadow night and day and be reminded of what they were to one another for many years. Would anyone want to be compared to Freddie Mercury on a daily basis? At any rate, 50 years after his death the ownership of the house reverts back to the estate. She might be in her 90’s then if still around. Kind of late in life to move. |
| Star* 19.08.2018 08:29 |
queenUSA : Mary does not have to live in that house she can sell it and move on, she still wants the limelight and make money still because it was Freddie's house. She was not slow making money when she had all the magazine deals and had photographers in the mansion like OK Magazine and the rest of them, so i cannot see any difference with a film crew borrowing the mansion to shoot a few scenes. She does things to suit herself, if her bank account gets low she will be wanting publicity sooner or later. She was not slow either telling people on footage and magazines about the time she realised Freddie was a "gay" as she crudely put it. To me i think she was a money grabber and she fooled Freddie for many many years. |
| Vocal harmony 19.08.2018 13:12 |
happystar wrote: queenUSA : Mary does not have to live in that house she can sell it and move on, she still wants the limelight and make money still because it was Freddie's house. She was not slow making money when she had all the magazine deals and had photographers in the mansion like OK Magazine and the rest of them, so i cannot see any difference with a film crew borrowing the mansion to shoot a few scenes. She does things to suit herself, if her bank account gets low she will be wanting publicity sooner or later. She was not slow either telling people on footage and magazines about the time she realised Freddie was a "gay" as she crudely put it. To me i think she was a money grabber and she fooled Freddie for many many years. |
| Vocal harmony 19.08.2018 13:29 |
happystar wrote: Oh poor Mary she must have it tough in that mansion poor flower. Thousands are homeless and there she is struggling in a rock legends house. My heart bleeds (not)Quick start a petition to solve London's homeless problem by making Mary Austin leave Freddie's former home! What about all the other people who own large lavish properties in London, chuck them out too... What an idiot, you didn't have that view when Freddie lived there, did you? Since you brought the subject up, it could be argued that Freddie didn't care about the homeless, he lived in that property and then gave it to his best friend. Had he had a conscience he could have done what David Gilmour did a few years ago, he owned a large London property, but rather than sell it he walked into the Crises homeless charity head office and signed the property over to them. He didn't seek any publicity, he just did it. What I'm saying is that it's up to people what they do with their possessions, freddie was in the best place to know who he wanted his home to end up with. |
| Star* 19.08.2018 13:59 |
VH Listen i said that comment because (queenUSA) said Mary has it hard living at Garden Lodge. i was been sarcastic like you do. Read before you spout off. |
| Star* 19.08.2018 14:02 |
Vh Freddie was a very ill man, he may have made the wrong decisions, and i think Jim Hutton deserved more respect than what he got and Mary treated him unfair. When Freddie was alive the homeless figures in this country were no where as massive as they are now, so that is a case for not arguing over that one. |
| emrabt 19.08.2018 15:38 |
You mean around 40 years ago, when homelessness and 'cardboard cities' were so bad in Britian the Homeless Persons Act was brought in to try and free up houses? about two years before Freddie bought Garden Lodge.... |
| Star* 19.08.2018 19:08 |
Emrabt: Dont know what your trying to prove here but Freddie was such a generous man always giving and supporting good causes, he was not that nasty man you seem to crow on about so give the man some respect his dead and move on. Have some decency man. |
| emrabt 19.08.2018 19:33 |
I'm trying to prove nothing, I’ve simply been correcting your inaccuracies with factual information and alternatively suggesting other points of view based on those facts. When you pluck a random made up bit of information out of the air, i will correct you or support you based on basic factual information. As stated above you are the all knowing go to guy when it comes to Freddie, you'd know exactly what he was like, having met and lived with the man for many years, so i am not going to correct your assessment of him, the same way i've not argued or 'corrected' your feeling about Mary. These are called opinions, and you are allowed to have them, just like i can have mine and many other people can have theirs. You can think what you like, but don't expect to sprout nonsense and not be corrected on the subject. |
| Thistle 19.08.2018 20:54 |
emrabt, it looks like he's sabotaged k-m's thread :( |
| Star* 20.08.2018 06:49 |
Thistleboy Dont you dare spout off about sabotaging threads because you and vocal barmony have done just that to mine , you are two faced and just cannot see who is really in the wrong here. |
| flodog 20.08.2018 09:02 |
Mary always knew that she would inherit the house. She wanted it to be a museum for his fans to visit . Freddie forbade it....it was his very private space . He wanted her to live in it with her boys...he was their godfather and he dearly loved her and them ...as family. He didn't want fans or film crews in his house and I'm not sure he would approve of anything Maylor have done recently ..including this film. She was the one person he totally trusted and she has never let him done . Do you really think he would like to see his wonderful music being used in adverts ! |
| flodog 20.08.2018 09:02 |
Mary always knew that she would inherit the house. She wanted it to be a museum for his fans to visit . Freddie forbade it....it was his very private space . He wanted her to live in it with her boys...he was their godfather and he dearly loved her and them ...as family. He didn't want fans or film crews in his house and I'm not sure he would approve of anything Maylor have done recently ..including this film. She was the one person he totally trusted and she has never let him done . Do you really think he would like to see his wonderful music being used in adverts ! |
| bucsateflon 20.08.2018 09:10 |
First thing she asked before moving in was" How long does the virus stays live in open air?" Then visited a local incinerator... |
| Star* 20.08.2018 12:10 |
flodog : Queens music has been used a lot in adverts here in the UK so it is a bit late for saying Freddie would not want his music been used in adverts. Mary has had lots of magazine deals and made money out of Freddie and garden lodge she has had photographers flashing in every room. Magazines like Ok had a glossy spread many years ago. I wonder if Mary donated her royalties to the Mercury phoenix trust or she banked it? |
| Darren_1977 20.08.2018 12:29 |
Happystar, you say you lived with Freddie for years , who do you think in your opinion should have been left the house and his share of the royalties. would you have liked his house to be turned into a museum like Graceland |
| Star* 20.08.2018 12:36 |
Darren1977 i never said such things as i lived with Freddie, where the hell did that come from lol i wish . |
| Darren_1977 20.08.2018 12:49 |
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| Darren_1977 20.08.2018 12:49 |
my mistake, thought somebody here said you did |
| Star* 20.08.2018 13:18 |
Darren1977 Its ok not your fault, i get blamed for a lot of shit on here and we all know who spins that dont we! |
| Thistle 20.08.2018 14:16 |
happystar wrote: Thistleboy Dont you dare spout off about sabotaging threads because you and vocal barmony have done just that to mine , you are two faced and just cannot see who is really in the wrong here.No, you utter moron. Chopin and Panchgani both provided concrete evidence as to who ruined your thread. It was YOU. And then you couldn't handle when people had a go at you for your stupidity. You then whinged like a bitch because your thread had been "sabotaged" - the irony being that YOU are doing the SAME THING on this one, with yet more stupidity. Try not to think about it any more. It might damage your brain - and by fuck, it doesn't really need more damaging. |
| Vocal harmony 20.08.2018 19:26 |
happystar wrote: Vh Freddie was a very ill man, he may have made the wrong decisions, and i think Jim Hutton deserved more respect than what he got and Mary treated him unfair. When Freddie was alive the homeless figures in this country were no where as massive as they are now, so that is a case for not arguing over that one.A long time before Freddie was ill, he said in interviews that his house and fortune would be left to Mary because she was the only person who could cope with it (the house and money). So if you're implying that because he was ill his mind was effected and a fully functioning Freddie would have written a different will, I don't think he would have, if indeed those details were written that late into his will. |
| Star* 20.08.2018 19:30 |
Obviously Mary is not coping though is she? One minute she has the glossy magazines around to Garden Lodge and the nest she is chasing the fans away. Nice lady eh! |
| Thistle 20.08.2018 20:08 |
I'm not sure if she does actually chase them away, but let's play Devil's Advocate.....would you not be fed up if thousands of people gathered day in, day out at your door to take photos and write stuff on the walls? GL might be a sacred venue to you but to Mary, it's her home. Freddie is no longer there and there are many, many ways to pay tribute to him without gathering at her door which must be very irksome now. I'm sure she appreciates his fans, but every day, 24/7? No, there comes a point where enough is enough. Seriously, try not to see through Freddie tinted glasses and your POV as a fan - think of it from her POV. |
| Darren_1977 22.08.2018 15:31 |
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| Star* 22.08.2018 16:31 |
yeah i can understand that she did get fed up of it all, but its only like Elvis fans visiting Grace lands and she knew the fans come with the territory. i know she has had two failed marriages and i wonder if the strain living in a rock legends house put pressure on the guys? |
| Invisible Woman 22.08.2018 17:31 |
I have some questions. Someone mentioned in this thread something about '50 years". What this really mean? It's mean that she actualy didn't inherited Garden Lodge? She can't sale house and no one of her family can't inherit house from her? If this true, the house that Freddie loved so much and in which he lived with Jim, he in fact didn't left to her. He left her illusion that she is owner of the house. Interesting. With this, everything can be viewed in another way. What will be after these 50 years? Who will take ownership of the house? |
| Galileo1564 23.08.2018 12:49 |
Invisible Woman, it just means someone doesn't know how to read a will. I've seen this repeated several times--that Mary only has the house for 50 years. This bugged me too so one day when I had nothing else better to do I found Freddie's will on line. There is a link to it somewhere on QZ or you can search for it. (If you want to and can't find it, let me know, I think I can find it quickly.) The house was bequeathed to Mary, which means it's hers. There is some business income that vests after 50 years, presumably royalties but I don't know. Someone misread this business of 50 years as if it applies to the house, and it's been repeated as if it's true. I am not a lawyer but I know what bequeathed means. And of course it makes no sense to give someone a house for 50 years so they have to move out when they are very elderly! As for invading Freddie's privacy by reading his will--there's very little in there that I didn't already know from other sources except a bunch of legalise. |
| Invisible Woman 23.08.2018 15:12 |
@galileo1564 I found thread about it on Queenzone. I didn't want to read his will in details, it's harder to me to understand law things on foreign language, but how much I realize, Garden Lodge belongs to her. It was strange to me when I saw "50 years". It would be like she didn't inherited. That's why I asked. Probably someone misunderstood about something. Thanks. |
| emrabt 23.08.2018 16:23 |
I haven't read the will, Perosnally i think it's over-stepping a bit. It's not like Graceland, Graceland is now a museum for the public, Garden Lodge is still a house. |
| Vocal harmony 23.08.2018 16:43 |
happystar wrote: yeah i can understand that she did get fed up of it all, but its only like Elvis fans visiting Grace lands and she knew the fans come with the territory. i know she has had two failed marriages and i wonder if the strain living in a rock legends house put pressure on the guys?It's nothing like Gracelands. Garden Lodge is Mary's private home. Elvis Presley's former home is a museum,which encourages visitors, after paying a charge. |
| Star* 23.08.2018 17:08 |
yes i know Grace lands is a museum but that is what many Queen / freddie fans think of Garden Lodge as a kind of sacred place to try and get closer to freddie's world. |
| emrabt 23.08.2018 17:35 |
Good job you can still go there and see the gate isn't it. I wonder if we will see the house become a museum at some point? |
| Star* 23.08.2018 20:30 |
i have never been to Garden Lodge but some of my friends have to which i was well envious of ! The new movie Bohemian Rhapsody looks interesting but there will be a few mistakes scattered through the film i am sure. Rami does look a bit ridiculous with those teeth and Freddie had better teeth than those, Rami looks like a rabbit wearing them. |
| Daniel Nester 24.08.2018 15:11 |
In a thread started at least in part to address the mixing fact and fiction, there appears to be much mixing of fact and fiction. |
| Dr Magus 25.08.2018 10:13 |
Can't wait for the scene in the studio where Freddie yells at Brian "you're trying to make me sing like Paul Rodgers, and I can't do it!" |
| runner_70 26.08.2018 05:48 |
Im sure the movie is all about Maylor and how Freddie needs them after his failed solo career |
| Lamebert whoehahaha 20.11.2018 14:46 |
What a shitty topic |