QueenZone discussion #1515877
Supposed errors in new Bo Rhap movie
| Thistle 04.08.2018 22:49 |
Listening to "Vinyl Revival" show, hosted by Stephanie Hirst on BBC Radio Manchester, and she says she's spotted two little errors just watching the trailer for the upcoming movie. 1 - In scenes where they record "Bo Rhap", the mic points towards ceiling (where it wouldn't be recording anything) 2 - a 1980s sticker on the reel for "Bo Rhap", which of course was '75. I haven't checked the trailer, so these are her observations. Sorry if it's been mentioned before. Is she right? |
| Jimmy Dean 05.08.2018 03:52 |
freddie in a mustache supposedly singing we will rock you first the very first time is the one we're all worried about. the two above are forgiveable |
| Ken8 05.08.2018 05:39 |
"freddie in a mustache supposedly singing we will rock you first the very first time is the one we're all worried about. " Spot on. Not to mention John recording background harmonies and Brian and Deacy playing their guitars with a violin bow whilst swinging his AC 30 around the studio When nonsense like this is given a pass you have to wonder what Brian & Roger are thinking about. If established events are "tweaked" it makes you wonder about the factual validity of the film I can't get my head around the people on Facebook who are defending this |
| emrabt 05.08.2018 07:24 |
To be fair having John do harmonies is understandable, he mimed for the videos so the public think he sang. And if he's not in the recording booth he'll have even less screen time, they have to find something for his character to do. |
| thomasquinn 32989 05.08.2018 11:55 |
Thistleboy1980 wrote: Listening to "Vinyl Revival" show, hosted by Stephanie Hirst on BBC Radio Manchester, and she says she's spotted two little errors just watching the trailer for the upcoming movie. 1 - In scenes where they record "Bo Rhap", the mic points towards ceiling (where it wouldn't be recording anything)If we're going to deconstruct moviescenes not designed to convey perfect accuracy, it could also be argued that said microphone was recording the room ambience to 'thicken' the sound of another, unseen microphone... |
| Thistle 05.08.2018 12:47 |
Jimmy Dean wrote: freddie in a mustache supposedly singing we will rock you first the very first time is the one we're all worried about. the two above are forgiveableYes, but those ones have already been mentioned. I don't think any mistakes are forgivable tbh. Artistic license maybe, but not stupid, easily checked things. |
| Thistle 05.08.2018 12:52 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote:Iol, maybe. But the scene suggests they're singing directly into a mic that wouldn't be picking them up.Thistleboy1980 wrote: Listening to "Vinyl Revival" show, hosted by Stephanie Hirst on BBC Radio Manchester, and she says she's spotted two little errors just watching the trailer for the upcoming movie. 1 - In scenes where they record "Bo Rhap", the mic points towards ceiling (where it wouldn't be recording anything)If we're going to deconstruct moviescenes not designed to convey perfect accuracy, it could also be argued that said microphone was recording the room ambience to 'thicken' the sound of another, unseen microphone... As I say, just a couple of errors she's picked up on the trailer. Along with the biggies already discussed, this film is just going to be BS from start to finish. |
| thomasquinn 32989 05.08.2018 12:55 |
Ok, not saying I don't agree with your assessment of the film, but - can you name me one, just one, music-related biopic that *doesn't* completely fuck up in terms of basic accuracy? I mean, I'm not saying they're *not* botching this, but that's just par for the course if you ask me. |
| wnilsen 05.08.2018 13:18 |
This is a movie and not a Documentary. Some adjustments must have been made. Events off the timeline happens see on this site how Hollywood adjusts the facts to be more dramatic the story. link |
| Thistle 05.08.2018 14:35 |
Not asking it to be a documentary. Just don't make it silly. Adding an 80s label to a 70s reel or giving Fred a hairy lip during WWRY doesn't add to the drama... |
| emrabt 05.08.2018 14:52 |
At least they have the rights to use actual Queen music, that already pegs it higher than "man in the mirror" which had to use funky stock music. |
| emrabt 05.08.2018 15:00 |
Another error seems to be Roger's hair remaining long all through the movie. |
| bootlegger 05.08.2018 15:07 |
and again and again..they're raping the real content of a band...a band i loved so much..from the early 70's up to Fred's terrible and cruel dead. The still f*ck Fred in the a*s...again and again...it's a big shame. The magic and the legacy he worked so hard for ..Taylor and May used it as a public toilet. Everyone can p*ss on it. Where did it went wrong? |
| bootlegger 05.08.2018 15:07 |
and again and again..they're raping the real content of a band...a band i loved so much..from the early 70's up to Fred's terrible and cruel dead. The still f*ck Fred in the a*s...again and again...it's a big shame. The magic and the legacy he worked so hard for ..Taylor and May used it as a public toilet. Everyone can p*ss on it. Where did it went wrong? |
| *goodco* 05.08.2018 15:20 |
Trivial, but things like Freddie with the 'stash in the 70s DO matter to many of us. I don't want to see him wearing a kimono at Live Aid, so just get those little things correct. For films of The Beatles, you don't want to see Paul and John with them if you recreate their Ed Sullivan gig, and you don't see them with beards during 'Sgt. Pepper'. If you do, then it's carelessness to detail. |
| cmsdrums 05.08.2018 18:44 |
*goodco* wrote: For films of The Beatles, you don't want to see Paul and John with them if you recreate their Ed Sullivan gig, and you don't see them with beards during 'Sgt. Pepper'. If you do, then it's carelessness to detail.^ This. Excellent analogy. |
| matt z 05.08.2018 19:04 |
Mic towards the ceiling: nay. It's a condenser Mic and these sometimes have varied "pickup patterns" depending on the location size and shape of the coils. It wouldn't matter if this were hanging upside down or right side up really. It'd still pick up something. Different engineers go for different set ups. Back when i was in a studio setting this was pretty intriguing stuff. Now without a band and barely getting practice time, its become a sad novelty (until my return) Often times some studios would record with two mics in opposite directions, but that might be incorporated for other fuller sounds. Guitar, keys etc. Possibly with bg vox. It depends on the Mic style (cardoid, supercardoid, omni, figure eight ) and range. Doesn't look like a ribbon Mic Anyways i can only watch on mobile screen can't see many details |
| matt z 05.08.2018 19:19 |
matt z wrote: Mic towards the ceiling: nay. It's a condenser Mic and these sometimes have varied "polar pickup patterns" depending on the location size and shape of the coils. It wouldn't matter if this were hanging upside down or right side up really. It'd still pick up something. Different engineers go for different set ups. Back when i was in a studio setting this was pretty intriguing stuff. Now without a band and barely getting practice time, its become a sad novelty (until my return) Often times some studios would record with two mics in opposite directions, but that might be incorporated for other fuller sounds. Guitar, keys etc. Possibly with bg vox. It depends on the Mic style (cardoid, supercardoid, omni, figure eight ) and range. Doesn't look like a ribbon Mic Anyways i can only watch on mobile screen can't see many details |
| The Fonz 05.08.2018 20:05 |
Jesus people, get a life. If you're worrying about this shit god help you all. |
| dysan 05.08.2018 20:06 |
He says, jumping over a shark. |
| Thistle 05.08.2018 21:54 |
The Fonz wrote: Jesus people, get a life. If you're worrying about this shit god help you all.Who's worried? Making observations is not the same as worrying ;) |
| thisissparta789789 05.08.2018 23:14 |
Has anyone considered that perhaps "Freddie with a mustache in the 70s" isn't actually in the movie and it only looks that way because of how the trailer was cut? It is entirely plausible they cut together two unrelated scenes. I HIGHLY doubt they gave Freddie a mustache in 1977 in the movie, considering we see him with the same outfit he wore IRL in 1977 in the trailer in SEVERAL concert shots. |
| oliverd05 05.08.2018 23:33 |
of course we could say that the song Brian is pitching in the trailer to have audience participation is really Radio Ga Ga, and QPL have just put we will rock you in their to mess with people and cause a shit storm.... |
| Sunshine 06.08.2018 06:21 |
What a brianless topic to find mistakes in a film that isn't even released yet. Just watch the film and then discuss it as a whole instead of opening a topic to find mistakes. Really...get a life... |
| matt z 06.08.2018 09:41 |
Sunshine wrote: What a brianless topic to find mistakes in a film that isn't even released yet. Just watch the film and then discuss it as a whole instead of opening a topic to find mistakes. Really...get a life...How is this BRIAN -LESS? he was one of the primary creative consultants. I don't get your scorn and then criticism. Sure the film isn't out yet, but resorting to ridicule is absurd. Criticisms of the trailer which may or may not feature inaccuracies is exactly what fan sites do. Fuck off with the hate. Speculative questions and speculative observations could lead to better resolutions and quality control. They amended the issue with NOTW after all. |
| *goodco* 06.08.2018 09:47 |
^ Well played !!! :-) |
| Sebastian 06.08.2018 13:15 |
I do have a life, and I'm happy to devote part of said life to finding mistakes, especially my own. Now, this is a film with a big budget (and investors who want their profits) and meant to attract millions of people, so of course it's gonna have a lot of instances of artistic licence, truth being stretched, broken telephone and, well, fake news! |
| matt z 06.08.2018 20:30 |
matt z wrote:Sunshine wrote: What a brianless topic to find mistakes in a film that isn't even released yet. Just watch the film and then discuss it as a whole instead of opening a topic to find mistakes. Really...get a life...How is this BRIAN -LESS? he was one of the primary creative consultants. I don't get your scorn and then criticism. Sure the film isn't out yet, but resorting to ridicule is absurd. Criticisms of the trailer which may or may not feature inaccuracies is exactly what fan sites do. Fuck off with the hate. Speculative questions and speculative observations could lead to better resolutions and quality control. They amended the issue with NOTW 40 th anniversary. Box set after all. |
| Thistle 06.08.2018 23:07 |
Sunshine wrote: What a brianless topic to find mistakes in a film that isn't even released yet. Just watch the film and then discuss it as a whole instead of opening a topic to find mistakes. Really...get a life...You're entitled to your opinion, but if you'd read the post properly instead of just jumping to call me brainless and tell me to get a life, you'd see that I'm talking about someone else's observations - and the last time I looked, this was a place for discussion. If I was overly concerned, I'd have put in serious discussion - but it was a general "put it out there" type of post for people to discuss...you know....on a fucking discussion board. |
| Thistle 06.08.2018 23:09 |
matt z wrote:Exactly!Sunshine wrote: What a brianless topic to find mistakes in a film that isn't even released yet. Just watch the film and then discuss it as a whole instead of opening a topic to find mistakes. Really...get a life...How is this BRIAN -LESS? he was one of the primary creative consultants. I don't get your scorn and then criticism. Sure the film isn't out yet, but resorting to ridicule is absurd. Criticisms of the trailer which may or may not feature inaccuracies is exactly what fan sites do. Fuck off with the hate. Speculative questions and speculative observations could lead to better resolutions and quality control. They amended the issue with NOTW after all. |
| thisissparta789789 08.08.2018 01:04 |
As to what oliverd05 said, I do think they're pitching Radio Gaga in that scene |
| queenUSA 08.08.2018 02:44 |
There will be things niggling Queen fans like the hairy lip showing up prematurely. Only Brian and Roger can answer for why that was allowed to fly and they WILL be asked. It bothers me. Yet, I think the movie will ultimately be enjoyed for what it is by fans, old and new, all over the world. |
| emrabt 08.08.2018 13:57 |
I've read the suggestion that growing the moustache might be used as symbolism of accepting his sexuality and the gay scene, so is introduced when he come to terms with being gay rather than when he actually grew it in real life. |
| cmsdrums 08.08.2018 15:03 |
queenUSA wrote: Only Brian and Roger can answer for why that was allowed to fly and they WILL be asked..And sadly I suspect they won't answer. |
| emrabt 08.08.2018 15:58 |
Brian will answer, but it won't be an answer to the question, he will answer with a story about Freddie, followed by information about his current interest. For example: Q: why does the biopic have Freddie growing his famous moustache in 1977? A: well that's a good question, and I really, well sometimes anyway, think back to when Freddie first grew his moustache and the crowd in those first few concerts that weren't happy and threw Bic razors onto the stage. I was looking, other day actually, at of some the wonderful stereoscopic photos taken of that event.... |
| matt z 08.08.2018 18:45 |
^ there ARE a few furry faced pictures of Fred from prob around 76-77 that show him with awkward haircut and facial hair |
| Chief Mouse 08.08.2018 20:02 |
People who make the trailers are a completely separate company. So they just cobbled together bits that look and sound good without too much thought put into it. I reserve my right to complain after I've seen the movie. |
| tomchristie22 08.08.2018 22:32 |
They went to the trouble of getting Brian's straightened hair right for 1969-1971. It seems weird that they would go to that level of detail, but then make such an obvious mistake as Freddie having a mustache three years early, or Roger having his 1975 hair in what appears to be 1983-84. Also - who's to say the shot of John and Brian bowing their guitars isn't accurate? I think it's quite possible they at least attempted that approach when recording the intro of Death on Two Legs - Jimmy Page had used that technique on stage which Brian was surely aware of in 75, so it wouldn't be out of the question that he ever considered it. Granted, the swinging amp seems more unlikely. Roger's non-raspy voice is the thing that's gonna bother me the most, I think. But that's kind of out of their control - they found someone with the right look and probably made the right call in going with him. |
| Stardust Parade 10.08.2018 21:09 |
I don't care about any of it! I just want to see the movie! Besides, there's clearly going to be a lot of cats in the movie, so how could it be bad? ;) lol |
| SkyeTV 10.08.2018 21:39 |
Well there is that |
| BETA215 12.08.2018 01:54 |
The question here, is why Sunshine is so concerned about what we spend our lives in. And I won't play the psychological route, but you should. |
| emrabt 12.08.2018 06:47 |
tomchristie22 wrote: Roger's non-raspy voice is the thing that's gonna bother me the most, I think. But that's kind of out of their control - they found someone with the right look and probably made the right call in going with him.Ben Hardy actually has a very deep voice, so just getting him speaking several octaves higher is an achievement in itself. |
| matt z 13.08.2018 05:11 |
Good point, Mouse. Weren't you the mouse rapist at one point? Or was that someone else? Either way, they've got MY money guaranteed (*unless i get to see a screening for free and think the film is a POS) but aside from that? I can see myself watching the film at least once in the theater. |
| MisterCosmicc 22.08.2018 08:00 |
I think the scene about We Will Rock You will be Brian reminding Freddie not to write songs like Body Language. |
| MisterCosmicc 22.08.2018 08:01 |
I think the scene about We Will Rock You will be Brian reminding Freddie not to write songs like Body Language. |
| EddieG 14.09.2018 23:17 |
Hey all, new user here. Howdy! ;-) Here's a pretty glaring and massive error, and without which this trailer linked below, or scene in the movie would not exist. link The Galilieos were done by Freddie, not Roger. A listen to the multitracks (which I have extensively since I downloaded them a few years back) would confirm this. |
| emrabt 15.09.2018 07:25 |
It's Roger |
| Bohardy 15.09.2018 08:04 |
EddieG wrote: Hey all, new user here. Howdy! ;-) Here's a pretty glaring and massive error, and without which this trailer linked below, or scene in the movie would not exist. link The Galilieos were done by Freddie, not Roger. A listen to the multitracks (which I have extensively since I downloaded them a few years back) would confirm this.Sorry pal. Nice try, but you're sadly, and massively wrong. The multitracks do indeed reveal Freddie singing the Galileos on one of the tracks. But they also contain Roger singing them on another. And for the final mix, only Roger's vocals were used there. |
| Biggus Dickus 15.09.2018 08:25 |
I wonder why the microphone Malek is using isn't properly placed in the holster. The holster should be roughly in the middle of the microphone, now it's near the rear of the mic. Just a small thing but looks so wrong. |
| tenenementdrowse 17.09.2018 18:48 |
Yeah but what's the whole deal with Roger hitting his drums and water (or something else) splashing up? |
| tenenementdrowse 18.09.2018 19:04 |
??? |
| Dr Magus 19.09.2018 09:24 |
tenenementdrowse wrote: Yeah but what's the whole deal with Roger hitting his drums and water (or something else) splashing up?Not water. Crystal's jizz. |
| cmsdrums 19.09.2018 14:21 |
tenenementdrowse wrote: Yeah but what's the whole deal with Roger hitting his drums and water (or something else) splashing up?Roger was known to do this on a few gigs, so it is an authentic recreation. Sometimes it's water, sometimes milk or beer...all three work to give an effect under stage lights (those leave differing smells and stains on the kit which I wouldn't recommend!) |
| emrabt 19.09.2018 14:41 |
I've been trying to remember where the clip they rotoscoped for the Innuendo video comes from so i could post it. Anyway it's an genuine Roger thing and is seen in cartoon form in the Innuendo video.. |
| tenenementdrowse 19.09.2018 14:55 |
I'd really like to see that! |
| Voice of Reason 2018 19.09.2018 16:00 |
I think they did it in the I Want It All video. Did they actually do it on stage? |
| Wiley 19.09.2018 19:36 |
Rog does it in the IWIA video and, I think, mini-Rog recreates it for The Miracle, no? Also, there's a roto-scoped version of Roger doing it in the Innuendo video, like someone else pointed out. |
| matt z 19.09.2018 22:19 |
Yes it was I want it all with his MANIPULATOR jacket. |
| emrabt 19.09.2018 22:59 |
I thought it was in The Miracle video too, but I put it on earlier and couldn't see it, admittedly I wasn't paying that much attention. |
| TheAdmiester 19.09.2018 23:09 |
emrabt wrote: I thought it was in The Miracle video too, but I put it on earlier and couldn't see it, admittedly I wasn't paying that much attention.Happens at roughly 2:18 on this version: link |
| emrabt 20.09.2018 07:45 |
There we go. |
| sdferertg 20.09.2018 09:37 |
Hammersmith '75, at the end of the guitar solo: link |