| The Real Wizard 02.08.2018 19:35 |
Queen London, England Wembley Arena September 4, 1984 This alternate source of the first of four nights at Wembley Arena is a considerable upgrade. Although it's a direct copy of the master tape, it has unfortunately been converted to mp3, and this is all the taper would let out. After doing a couple slight fixes, I converted it to FLAC for the sake of not losing quality - but this is NOT lossless. It's the best existing source of this show, either way. There is a bit of tape warble in the last couple tracks. Otherwise the sound is stable and excellent. Thanks to Harry for tape, and the taper for the transfer ! AUD > Master Cassette > WAV > MP3 > CDR (0) > WAV (GoldWave click removal) > FLAC level 8 More info here: link Disc 1: 01. Machines (tape) 02. Tear It Up 02. Tie Your Mother Down 03. Under Pressure 05. Somebody To Love 06. Killer Queen 07. Seven Seas Of Rhye 08. Keep Yourself Alive 09. Liar 10. improv 11. It's A Hard Life 12. Staying Power 13. Dragon Attack 14. Now I'm Here [cut] 15. Is This The World We Created 16. Love Of My Life Disc 2: 01. Stone Cold Crazy 02. Great King Rat 03. keyboard solo 04. guitar solo 05. Brighton Rock (ending) 06. Hammer To Fall 07. Another One Bites The Dust 08. Not Fade Away 09. Crazy Little Thing Called Love 10. Bohemian Rhapsody 11. Radio Ga Ga 12. I Want To Break Free [cut] 13. Jailhouse Rock 14. We Will Rock You 15. We Are The Champions 16. God Save The Queen link Enjoy ! |
| norbik131 02.08.2018 19:39 |
thank you for so quickly reply!! |
| pittrek 02.08.2018 19:46 |
Thanks for another upgrade |
| Chinwonder2 02.08.2018 20:03 |
Awesome! Thanks to all involved! -Chin |
| people on streets 02.08.2018 20:04 |
Thanks! Sounds distorted. Not bad, but wouldn't describe this sound as excellent. Not even for an 80s tape. |
| The Real Wizard 02.08.2018 20:08 |
people on streets wrote: Thanks! Sounds distorted. Not bad, but wouldn't describe this sound as excellent. Not even for an 80s tape.Maybe I listened to that 5-13-78 tape one too many times, and my ears are blocked ! Developing bootleg ears has its downfalls, I guess. Enjoy the show. |
| people on streets 02.08.2018 20:35 |
Haha that's true. I tape a lot of shows and with modern days equipment distortion doesn't really happen (if you know how to properly use your gear). Guess I have bootleg ears as well. The show is still nice to have in the collection for 'Not Fade Away' Thanks again :) |
| vivaqueen 02.08.2018 21:52 |
MERCI BEAUCOUP |
| Unniendo 02.08.2018 23:03 |
Thanks! |
| Thistle 02.08.2018 23:24 |
Cheers Bob :) |
| Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira 03.08.2018 00:53 |
Thanks a million!!! Cheers, Ogre- |
| pmatsynot 03.08.2018 06:55 |
Thank you RW for the upgrade |
| onedunpark 03.08.2018 08:35 |
Thanks Bob |
| akan 03.08.2018 08:47 |
thank you |
| Chopin1995 03.08.2018 10:16 |
Thank you The Wiz! |
| coops 04.08.2018 04:35 |
I was at this show. It really was great and perhaps the loudest concert I have ever been to. Will never forget it. |
| Sam99 04.08.2018 13:03 |
Thank you Bob another kind share. |
| tassilo 05.08.2018 16:38 |
Thank you very much. |
| emrabt 05.08.2018 16:45 |
Thanks, love the 84 shows. |
| MackMantilla 10.08.2018 01:24 |
Thanks, Sir :-) |
| . 10.08.2018 09:53 |
people on streets wrote: Thanks! Sounds distorted. Not bad, but wouldn't describe this sound as excellent. Not even for an 80s tape.The distortion has been introduced at some point during the lossy transfer. The master tape of this source is clean. |
| The Real Wizard 11.08.2018 05:37 |
wrote:Is that your way of saying you're about to post your copy for everyone to compare?people on streets wrote: Thanks! Sounds distorted. Not bad, but wouldn't describe this sound as excellent. Not even for an 80s tape.The distortion has been introduced at some point during the lossy transfer. The master tape of this source is clean. |
| RStanton 11.08.2018 19:09 |
wrote:Does this post mark the return of "The Kurgan"? Or as he is now known "Blank Space"!people on streets wrote: Thanks! Sounds distorted. Not bad, but wouldn't describe this sound as excellent. Not even for an 80s tape.The distortion has been introduced at some point during the lossy transfer. The master tape of this source is clean. |
| people on streets 12.08.2018 01:57 |
wrote:I'm a taper. Don't get me wrong, I understand the sentiment of keeping tapes uncirculated. I rarely share my tapes. But when I do circulate them, I make sure I share in the best possible quality. Lossy tranfers with distortion make no sense to me at all.people on streets wrote: Thanks! Sounds distorted. Not bad, but wouldn't describe this sound as excellent. Not even for an 80s tape.The distortion has been introduced at some point during the lossy transfer. The master tape of this source is clean. |
| . 12.08.2018 11:29 |
I guess you will have to ask the taper why some people only got a lossy transfer with distortion. |
| aristide1 13.08.2018 10:49 |
There are at least two more mundane explanations for the distorted sound. 1. The master tape did not survived as well as your copy. This is the point of making safety copies. 2. The taper made some eq which enhanced the distorsions. |
| people on streets 13.08.2018 14:23 |
wrote: I guess you will have to ask the taper why some people only got a lossy transfer with distortion.I guess I don't care enough to ask you for more info or to do a possible trade. I'm 99% done trading anyway. |
| The Real Wizard 14.08.2018 02:44 |
aristide1 wrote: There are at least two more mundane explanations for the distorted sound. 1. The master tape did not survived as well as your copy. This is the point of making safety copies. 2. The taper made some eq which enhanced the distorsions.Oh snap. I guess a certain someone's carrot dangling won't be able to stand up to such information. I've actually heard a transfer of the copy in question - it's not nearly as good as this. I just thought I'd play along for a while to see if the bear wanted to come out and play. I guess not. |
| . 14.08.2018 08:47 |
aristide1 wrote: There are at least two more mundane explanations for the distorted sound. 1. The master tape did not survived as well as your copy. This is the point of making safety copies. 2. The taper made some eq which enhanced the distorsions.PM sent. |
| aristide1 14.08.2018 14:47 |
PM reply |
| aristide1 14.08.2018 15:38 |
Something like this (original and filtered): |
| . 14.08.2018 17:18 |
Good work! |
| . 15.08.2018 11:31 |
This is the result I get from my transfer when I gradually boost the range from 1000 Hz and higher to the point of distortion. link My conclusion is somebody did the something similar with this share, thus causing the distortion. The same (clean and lossless) source has been traded since the 80's, and has been in circulation for over 30 years (since the day the TAPER let it out). link I'm unclear as to whether "Harry" actually has a 2nd generation copy in tape form, or if he was given an mp3 transfer, or who may of introduced the distortion. Whatever the case, if you ask the very capable aristide1 nicely, perhaps he will try and reverse engineer the distortion for your pleasure. |
| Harry_queenrecordings 16.08.2018 06:19 |
This lossy transfer I once got from the taper (more than 10 years ago) were two long mp3 files on two CDRs (as data, not audio). He said that he taped it and tried to transfer it to digital and send me the thing. When I got the files I found out it was just an mp3 transfer. When I asked for a better (lossless) transfer, I never got any reply back.. I believe that he had no any clue how to make a decent transfer back then, or he was simply lying and shared a bad version with distortion on purpose. Or perhaps he was not even the taper.. I guess we will never find out. |
| . 16.08.2018 07:03 |
Thank you for the reply and for the information you have provided, so ultimately: It cannot be confirmed that he was the taper. It cannot be confirmed that it is a direct transfer from the master tape. It cannot be confirmed who did the transfer. It cannot be confirmed if the actual taper was ever involved in supplying the CDR's to you. If you want my opinion, it isn't a direct transfer from the master. |
| Harry_queenrecordings 16.08.2018 07:50 |
Well, of course, most things can never be 100% confirmed :-), but yes it's for sure that some things are questionable in this case. |
| Chinwonder2 16.08.2018 15:40 |
Whilst on the topic of '84 gigs, is anyone able to tell me if this is anything significant. I downloaded it from here, I can't figure out what source it comes from. It's a recording from the last Birmingham show: Here's a download link: link link I doubt it's an upgrade but who knows... -Chin |
| The Real Wizard 16.08.2018 23:54 |
Chinwonder2 wrote: I doubt it's an upgrade but who knows...Yep, your instincts were right. Same old version. First 3/4 of the show sounds great, and the last few songs are purposely degraded. |
| Chinwonder2 17.08.2018 00:08 |
Ok, thanks for clearing that one up! -Chin |
| Viper 18.08.2018 06:42 |
thx! |
| Marlamir 21.08.2018 19:26 |
Thanks man, going to have fun tonight. |