| Day dop 17.07.2018 14:05 |
Here you go: link |
| raucousmonster 17.07.2018 14:21 |
Looks amazing. Really amazing but... Hot Space Freddie recording We Will Rock You?? I know this is aimed at casual and potential new fans but there's already quite a few pretty significant factual changed and that one is a clunker. |
| Michael Scapp 17.07.2018 14:29 |
I 2nd this, NOTW Freddie had no 'stache and longer hair. I'm guessing Malak doesn't look very convincing w/o said 'stache. Hopefully they're just saying that he grew it during the recording. The concert shots from that same time show Malak w/o a mustache. |
| Raf 17.07.2018 14:47 |
When I saw moustache Freddie recording WWRY, I assumed people here would be discussing that, haha. Nonetheless, good trailer. It looks like there'll be more drama than suggested by the first trailer. |
| dudeofqueen 17.07.2018 14:53 |
Fucking dreadful. |
| Sheldon 17.07.2018 14:57 |
It looks like an awesome fictional movie with a great soundtrack. |
| The Fairy King 17.07.2018 15:30 |
Maybe they were recording overdubs for the Montreal concert video. ;) |
| matt z 17.07.2018 15:49 |
I'm not fond of the things being out of sequence....and the cheesy looking party guests that are more representative of modern hipster parties than 70's 80's attire. BUt I'm still being positive about it. Also... Queen didn't do many press conferences, right? I'm sure that's added for conflict and brevity. I wonder what Roger's tiffed about? The selection for lead single again? (sequence after Galileo) |
| Galileo1564 17.07.2018 15:52 |
Freddie's singing WWRY in the Crazy Tour/Save Me red pants. With a 'stache. So I guess it comes out before Hot Space. Either that or he wears those pants on the Hot Space tour now. It's the Alternative Reality Queen. It could still be fun if not taken literally. |
| Supersonic_Man89 17.07.2018 16:39 |
Oh let them fuck it up, i'll make a better Freddie biopic in a couple of decades time. |
| vin221 17.07.2018 17:13 |
That bottle of Stoli at 0:11 did it for me. It's gonna be FAB. |
| TheGame 17.07.2018 17:35 |
Gave me goosebumps, all i can say about this! Sure, he aint Freddie and this aint Queen, but we cant travel back in time. This is a movie for the mainstream market ( which will not be 100% accurate) and Roger and Brian are directly involved in the movie, so its the best we will ever get from an authorized Queen film. Chill down and relax the journey, it will be great! |
| The Real Wizard 17.07.2018 17:36 |
matt z wrote: Queen didn't do many press conferences, right? I'm sure that's added for conflict and brevity.They did a few, but not too many. Maybe ten at most. And the recreation of the Hot Space one is reasonably accurate. |
| Katby 17.07.2018 17:37 |
I can live with things being out of sequence, if it means the band's most interesting and important moments are represented in the movie. My fear, though, is that the band members will become caricatures of themselves. |
| The Real Wizard 17.07.2018 17:39 |
TheGame wrote: Gave me goosebumps, all i can say about this! Sure, he aint Freddie and this aint Queen, but we cant travel back in time. This is a movie for the mainstream market ( which will not be 100% accurate) and Roger and Brian are directly involved in the movie, so its the best we will ever get from an authorized Queen film. Chill down and relax the journey, it will be great!Good attitude. Indeed - the film isn't for us. It's for the man on the street who has heard 5 Queen songs and wants to see a good film. No doubt people on forums will point out all the little inaccuracies, but the band and Hollywood couldn't give a shit about what 0.0001% of the audience thinks. |
| Wiley 17.07.2018 17:41 |
I had an issue with Freddie's voice in the teaser trailer but not on this one. The way he delivers the lines after the Smile gig is lovely, goes from very insecure and hesitant ("I also.. I write songs..") to fake confidence when he says they'll need someone new. But the killer for me was when he says "What if I don't have time?"... Ouch... that's Freddie, right there. I'm sold. ... although, things like moustached Freddie recording Rock You in 1977 will bother me I'll try to favour storyline, drama and performances over it. |
| Rick 17.07.2018 18:16 |
The actor who plays Brian is Brian. He is very convincing. |
| Wiley 17.07.2018 18:31 |
I hope we get to hear Joe Mazzello's Deacy voice in the next trailer or clip they release. So far he's been 'the silent one' ... as in real life hehe :).. I also think Joe nails Deacy's facial expressions and smile. Hopefully he and Roger get good exposure and are not there just as filler or comic relief. |
| runner_70 17.07.2018 18:53 |
Puh difficult one. I guess Brian had too much of a say. Freddie with moustache in 1977? Crowdsurfing? FBG in 1974? '39 on their first tour? Aids diagnosis before Live Aid? Reunion in 1985 ??? Too many history changes for my taste. And Rami could have at least worked out a bit more. He has no muscles. Freddie was way more muscular. His speaking voice is too deep as well. I guess Brian was involved too much. Sure he is bringing the WWRY part in it and it is no coincidence that the "mistakes" happen with Brians songs (FBG/39). He still was and is the DIva of Queen. |
| dysan 17.07.2018 18:54 |
Almost with every cut I'm either YEAH! or NAH :( We'll see. We'll see. |
| k-m 17.07.2018 20:28 |
runner_70 wrote: Puh difficult one. I guess Brian had too much of a say. Freddie with moustache in 1977? Crowdsurfing? FBG in 1974? '39 on their first tour? Aids diagnosis before Live Aid? Reunion in 1985 ??? Too many history changes for my taste. And Rami could have at least worked out a bit more. He has no muscles. Freddie was way more muscular. His speaking voice is too deep as well. I guess Brian was involved too much. Sure he is bringing the WWRY part in it and it is no coincidence that the "mistakes" happen with Brians songs (FBG/39). He still was and is the DIva of Queen.Haha, don't think I saw you post here before, but I do think you're spot on. I mean, how else could it be? With Gwilym Lee doing the (fabulous) acting Brian just may overshadow Freddie in "his own" movie. |
| mike hunt 17.07.2018 20:30 |
In all honesty I liked this trailer more than the first one....Of course it's not gonna be 100% accurate, but I do feel it should be a good movie. Seems like they will touch on his illness and last moments as well. Freddie saying He doesn't have time, and Roger stating Fred, you're a legend looks like after the live Aid era. Should be interesting. |
| mike hunt 17.07.2018 20:35 |
I should say I'm still not sold on Ramek as Freddie...Freddie was small, but bigger if you know what I mean....Ramek looks like he's 14 with a fake Stach. |
| cmsdrums 17.07.2018 20:36 |
The Real Wizard wrote:I think that pic is just of an in store signing session for Hot Space rather than the main press conference to launch the album?matt z wrote: Queen didn't do many press conferences, right? I'm sure that's added for conflict and brevity.They did a few, but not too many. Maybe ten at most. And the recreation of the Hot Space one is reasonably accurate. |
| Invisible Woman 18.07.2018 07:53 |
This trailer is not much different than first, some scenes are the same. |
| john bodega 18.07.2018 09:19 |
" Aids diagnosis before Live Aid" Aside from all of the other anachronisms, I wouldn't read too far into this one. Freddie wasn't a dummy, he knew people he'd been with or circulated around were dropping dead, and he had that weird 'I'm not going to make old bones!' thing going on in his head. |
| Sam99 18.07.2018 12:03 |
As other subscribers, above have previously stated this film is not made solely for dieshard Queen fans, it would not make enough money at they box office, or possibly be as entertaining if the plot was not dramatised. Undoubtedly there will be inaccuracies, for the purpose of plot and drama,but I believe this looks really good and will undoubtedly be an entertaining film, no doubt there will be sad bits also :( |
| Cruella de Vil 18.07.2018 12:19 |
Hi there, like others, there are little things that annoy me (Fred with moustache recording We Will Rock You, Deacy and Bri with cello bows??!!) but I just cannot see Roger saying "You're a legend Fred" at all. Still, in many other ways, it looks like it could be great. |
| cobohall 18.07.2018 13:16 |
I was wondering about the cello/bass bows on the trailer as well. James Rundle, in his review of the second trailer, states that cello bows were used on the bass for the intro of Death On Two Legs. A wikipedia article also states this. I'd never heard about this. Interesting, if it's true. The movie is looking more and more interesting to me, Yeah, some variations on reality, but it's looking promising. And I think Rami Malek's voice sounded very convincing when he said. "What if I don't have time?" The guy playing Roger is completely off though, imho. |
| Golden Salmon 18.07.2018 13:56 |
At the risk of being painfully obvious, I am also of the opinion that those expecting accuracy will be disappointed. This is a mass product never meant for the hardcore fans, and this is the best Queen movie you'll ever get in your lifetime. I think this trailer is great and I will enjoy this. |
| Biggus Dickus 18.07.2018 14:08 |
Freddie muscular? He didn't have muscles. |
| Wiley 18.07.2018 14:55 |
Once again, the "What if don't have time?" bit was super convincing. Also when he's talking to Bri and Rog at the Smile gig. I don't think he looks so great in the Live Aid scenes, though. I know at least some of those were filmed on the first days so maybe he was still growing into the part. I know directors will sometimes play with this and use it to their advantage, like James Cameron having Leonardo DiCaprio and Kate Winslet's film their nude painting scene from Titanic first to play off their real-life nervousness. Would have made sense to have Rami do the consumated rockstar scenes towards the end, maybe? We can only speculate. |
| Stardust Parade 18.07.2018 18:45 |
I know there are gonna be inaccuracies, but I can live with that. As people have already stated, it's not going to be a film for hardcore fans like us, but for the average person who's probably only heard WWRY, BR, WATC, and AOBTD. I think it's gonna be a great film. Don't go see it if you're just gonna nit pick everything to death. |
| BETA215 18.07.2018 18:50 |
Golden Salmon wrote: At the risk of being painfully obvious, I am also of the opinion that those expecting accuracy will be disappointed. This is a mass product never meant for the hardcore fans, and this is the best Queen movie you'll ever get in your lifetime. I think this trailer is great and I will enjoy this.Yeah, that's a bit what dissapointed me. I hope it's a big hit, it would bring new people interested in the band (something I would expect to happen), and even interested in QZ. |
| Dusta 18.07.2018 20:02 |
I am not certain I want to see this or not. Just from the trailer, it looks as though they are going to portray Freddie as an obnoxious diva...which, by all accounts, was quite the opposite. Also...is Deacon on board with this? Or is this just Roger and Brian...mostly Brian contributing? |
| Dusta 18.07.2018 20:07 |
runner_70 wrote: Puh difficult one. I guess Brian had too much of a say. Freddie with moustache in 1977? Crowdsurfing? FBG in 1974? '39 on their first tour? Aids diagnosis before Live Aid? Reunion in 1985 ??? Too many history changes for my taste. And Rami could have at least worked out a bit more. He has no muscles. Freddie was way more muscular. His speaking voice is too deep as well. I guess Brian was involved too much. Sure he is bringing the WWRY part in it and it is no coincidence that the "mistakes" happen with Brians songs (FBG/39). He still was and is the DIva of Queen. Haha, don't think I saw you post here before, but I do think you're spot on. I mean, how else could it be? With Gwilym Lee doing the (fabulous) acting Brian just may overshadow Freddie in "his own" movie. I so agree, and this was a concern to me, and why I wondered if Deacon had any input into this. Roger has always been pretty straightforward about Freddie NOT being the diva, but rather the peacemaker, and silent co-writer of many of the songs. |
| Penetration_Guru 18.07.2018 20:37 |
It's a "based on reality" work of fiction, so they can shorten sequences, combine people into amalgam characters, and take minor liberties with timelines for all I care. However, don't do a bunch of press telling us how painstakingly accurate you've made it and then complain about nitpickers…. |
| Dusta 18.07.2018 20:48 |
Also of concern: They will focus on his *showmanship* and downplay his musicianship. |
| runner_70 18.07.2018 20:57 |
As long as it is the Brian show I have my doubts. Brian is very two faced despite his polite image...... |
| pittrek 18.07.2018 20:58 |
Freddie with mustache recording WWRY? How could they fuck up such an easy thing? Are not Brian and Roger the producers anymore? And what's with his early 70's hair? Couldn't they actually find a wig which looks like natural hair? The guy who plays Brian SOUNDS Exactly like him, where did they find him? The guy who plays Roger LOOKS slightly like Roger, but sounds nothing like him. Wrong casting in my humble opinion. Deacon - we haven't seen him properly or heard him at all. Makes you wonder why. |
| matt z 18.07.2018 22:30 |
^ doubtless, Deacon will not be addressed by name for legal reasons so they don't have to pay him for his representation ;) Jk. Maybe Deacon will be there for comic relief. They'll pull a POLICE COPS on him ala the SIMPSONS. He'll be a variation of a bumbling idiot *just kidding again. I love John Deacon. I will be attending a first screening dressed as a member of the band. Anybody else in the L.A. area want to participate? |
| mike hunt 18.07.2018 23:03 |
I notice a lot of dislike or distrust of Brian May on this site.... |
| mike hunt 18.07.2018 23:15 |
Runner 70.....LOL. you really need too find a new hobby. |
| MiracleTour1989 18.07.2018 23:45 |
I’m shocked they are showing 1983 Freddie in 1977. That is an amateurish oversight. Here’s an idea: maybe watch the video for We Will Rock You. No one from Queen - Brian, Roger, Jim Beach - no one noticed this? Not a good sign. Other than that I think the second trailer does look pretty cool. Rami looks darn close in several of the shots. I still think the film should have followed Freddie’s entire life. That’s where the drama was, there’s your Best Actor nomination. The courageous artist who keeps fighting until the end as the heartless paparazzi closes in. I’m definitely looking forward to the film. I just want it to Freddie justice. |
| mike hunt 19.07.2018 01:11 |
I agree about the We Will Rock bit, but are you sure the Movie doesn't touch on the last few years? That one scene Roger say's Fred You're a Legend seems like it's from his final days. |
| Apocalipsis_Darko 19.07.2018 01:11 |
If you meet Brian, you will see he has two faces... |
| Raf 19.07.2018 05:00 |
I'm shocked the expression "amateur mistake" (or something equivalent) has appeared at least twice in this thread. Brian, Roger and probably everyone involved in the film has watched the We Will Rock You and live videos between 1977 and 1980. Having Malek with a moustache for the WWRY scene, as well as putting Fat Bottomed Girls on a 1974-ish setlist are obviously deliberate decisions. Have you guys never watched ANY other Hollywood version of previously existing stories (either real ones or comics, books etc)? You can't tell years of facts in just 2 hours and make it both entertaining and faithful. To keep the film flowing well it's often necessary to either skip some facts or clump them together. It's a movie, not a documentary. Its first goal is to be entertaining. It's not made to inform, it uses a real story as basis for entertainment. There's shitloads of documentaries for those of you who just want to see real facts from the band's history. |
| darcy-wright 19.07.2018 06:09 |
pause the trailer during the we will rock you bit. everyone else looks 1970s, rami as freddie looks like hes "photoshoppd" on top his image is crisper and has a "harder" edge.... Then also in the stage clapping bit, he looks copied over.. just my thought. and i think maybe thats what they are doing on purpose. someone would have said something during filming you would have to think.. |
| john bodega 19.07.2018 06:22 |
Only bit that worried me was the 'you're a legend' bit. Can't really imagine them sitting around calling each other legends but then again, when you've got that much money maybe it just happens one day ha ha. |
| dudeofqueen 19.07.2018 09:05 |
>That’s where the drama was, there’s your Best Actor nomination This fucking thing won't even get a nomination for an Original Soundtrack award; believing that it would challenge REAL actors is just beyond a joke. Now in terms of Rotten Tomatoes, this film will hit the heights! |
| bucsateflon 19.07.2018 09:17 |
"Freddie concerning your private life....?" Freddie : "What more do you need to know, I make music..." Freddie: "We are ALL legends" This trailer puts it all on the table, it is a movie about Queen. |
| dudeofqueen 19.07.2018 11:05 |
bucsatteflon, re: >This trailer puts it all on the table, it is a movie about Queen. It is. And a fucking dreadful one at that. |
| bootLuca 19.07.2018 11:47 |
runner_70 wrote: FBG in 1974? '39 on their first tour?where is that part? |
| Wiley 19.07.2018 11:53 |
Trailers are known to have scenes that don't make it into the movie or have different versions of them, going as far as getting special voice over from the actors so that the trailer "works". My thought/ wishful thinking wheen seeing the WWRY "mistake" was that they brought in moustache Freddie for the trailer so that it flows well with the following scene with 1981 Freddie performing WWRY on stage. For continuity's sake. My worry is that there is so much story with lots of ups and downs along the 15-18 years this movie is supposed to cover that it ends up feeling like vignettes of random events put together in a dodgy sequence. I'm 100% sure there will be a point where there's a live montage and the next scene happens 2 years and 2 albums later and they make it seem like it's right after. For example, I suspect they'll go from 1977 to 1980 to show Queen's steady climb in the U.S. until they peak with AOBTD but then they crash and burn with Hot Space. From a narrative perspective I don't see them going from U.S. success in 1977 to a 'meh' album with Jazz, then the Live Killers era and the crazy tour, etc.. it would feel out of place. |
| la_ultra_zona 19.07.2018 14:45 |
Freddie did wear that moustache in NOTW era, as this pic proves. (Courtesy of FOX) |
| cmsdrums 19.07.2018 15:15 |
Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: If you meet Brian, you will see he has two faces...Haven't we all? To be fair to him, his main face is a lot more caring, thoughtful, intelligent, creative and brilliant than most people.. |
| Queen16 20.07.2018 02:46 |
link A pretty detailed breakdown of the new trailer |
| Apocalipsis_Darko 20.07.2018 11:31 |
His main...the darkest face is horrible. |
| runner_70 20.07.2018 14:38 |
DId you see his dark face? |
| emrabt 20.07.2018 15:23 |
[quote]Maybe Deacon will be there for comic relief.[/quote] I know you were joking but i think this is exactly going to be John's purpose in the film, i suspect Roger will be comic relief too. From the trailer it looks like their roles are going to be along the lines of the ghostbusters Characterisations in the Real Ghostbusters cartoon from the 80's. Every good idea will be suggested by Brian, like Egon. Freddie will be the sarcastic joker like Peter Roger will be Ray, the one full of engery and so on. John will be winston, underwriten. |
| Holly2003 20.07.2018 16:40 |
emrabt wrote: [quote]Maybe Deacon will be there for comic relief.[/quote] I know you were joking but i think this is exactly going to be John's purpose in the film, i suspect Roger will be comic relief too. From the trailer it looks like their roles are going to be along the lines of the ghostbusters Characterisations in the Real Ghostbusters cartoon from the 80's. Every good idea will be suggested by Brian, like Egon. Freddie will be the sarcastic joker like Peter Roger will be Ray, the one full of engery and so on. John will be winston, underwriten.Will Norman Sheffield be the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man? |
| Voice of Reason 2018 20.07.2018 17:32 |
runner_70 wrote: Puh difficult one. I guess Brian had too much of a say. Freddie with moustache in 1977? Crowdsurfing? FBG in 1974? '39 on their first tour? Aids diagnosis before Live Aid? Reunion in 1985 ??? Too many history changes for my taste. And Rami could have at least worked out a bit more. He has no muscles. Freddie was way more muscular. His speaking voice is too deep as well. I guess Brian was involved too much. Sure he is bringing the WWRY part in it and it is no coincidence that the "mistakes" happen with Brians songs (FBG/39). He still was and is the DIva of Queen.You have summed all my thoughts up here runner including on Brian's songs. I'll add that I think most of the scenes look like a tv movie. I had hoped to get insights into things we didn't know so well. Do you think it is Fred's first meeting with Brian and Roger they are trying to convey? 'Our singer has just left?' I thought they knew each other long before that. It looks like the recordings of Bo Rhap and WWRY are being played for laughs. We'll see. The strangest thing of all is that I am agreeing with runner-70! Maybe the movie has brought about some good! |
| Dusta 20.07.2018 20:09 |
Dare I ask? Is the actor doing his own singing? Please tell me, "no, dumbass!" |
| runner_70 20.07.2018 20:50 |
It is a mixture between marc martel (the only guy that is able to carry a queen tune) and Freddie himself. It speaks also volumes that the Brian May guy seems to be the best actor of the movie. Seems this is more of a Brian movie than a supposed Freddie movie. As Far as I can see they let his solo career shine in a bad light as well- ok Mr Bad Guy was no big hit but there was never a Queen Reunion in 1985 as they were touring Japan and Australie/NZL at the time too. All poits to the fact that Brian and ROger are seen as Freddies saviour..... Wonder if John Deacon named at all.... |
| runner_70 20.07.2018 20:51 |
@voice of Reason. Agreeing with me is the first sign that you are on the right track. :) |
| dysan 21.07.2018 09:43 |
I dunno if it's the breakdown link above, but I watch one where they focus on Prenter appearing through a door in a club like a bad guy. Very Sith-like. I couldn't help but think it was actually Jim H. |
| bucsateflon 21.07.2018 11:55 |
no South America footage... |
| mike hunt 21.07.2018 21:37 |
If Brian wanted it as the Brian May story he would have named the movie We Will Rock You...no? I did notice some things that make me nervous that runner 70 is on too something....the scene where Brian say's too Freddie we need too experiment, when I saw that I admit I was thinking is Brian gonna try and take the main credit for Queens experiments in the studio? when Freddie was already writing the "out there" stuff like Fairy King and Black Queen. Hopefully I read It wrong, and Runner 70 is wrong. |
| runner_70 21.07.2018 21:55 |
Hm we'll see but regarding Queen I was seldom wrong ;) |
| Wiley 21.07.2018 23:09 |
Ok, I'll speculate away... I think Fred and Brian will be portrayed as equals, driving the band's creativity with the odd genius moment by Fred that takes it to the next level. I don't think Roger will be comic relief alone (he will be) but he'll be Freddie's more loyal friend and will have some dramatic moments. Doesn't Ben Hardy have soap opera background? There's a couple of moments in the trailer that suggest that to me: him looking dramatically at the camera before the 'what if I don't have time' like and him telling Freddie he's a legend at the end. John will surely be the stereotypical 'quiet one' and will be mostly fit comic relief.. still, I think he will be given a couple of moments to flesh him out a bit, most likely, at some point speaking up while negotiating a contract or something about the band's finances AND him being most affected by Freddie's diagnosis. You can see him with a very distraught expression in the last shot of the trailer. |
| Saint Jiub 22.07.2018 00:01 |
mike hunt wrote: If Brian wanted it as the Brian May story he would have named the movie We Will Rock You...no? I did notice some things that make me nervous that runner 70 is on too something....the scene where Brian say's too Freddie we need too experiment, when I saw that I admit I was thinking is Brian gonna try and take the main credit for Queens experiments in the studio? when Freddie was already writing the "out there" stuff like Fairy King and Black Queen. Hopefully I read It wrong, and Runner 70 is wrong.I don't believe that Brian was "out there" until A Night at the Opera. |
| Day dop 22.07.2018 02:14 |
I hope they haven't made out that Queen became a bit of a flop after The Game as that's the way America tends to see Queen. Their sales grew outside of North America throughout the 80s. I can imagine they'd made out that Hot Space sent them into freefall, and The Works barely gets a mention, or they carry on making out that Queen were going downhill popularity-wise (when really, that album did pretty good). |
| mike hunt 22.07.2018 02:36 |
I think they will make Hot Space a flop of course, then almost breaking up, waning popularity, then Live Aid brought them back. Not sure how The Works will play into it. Maybe it will show The Works as a Moderate failure when first released the after Live Aid It started off the charts. |
| Day dop 22.07.2018 02:56 |
That's the thing, as I said, The Works did well, and Radio Gaga did exceptionally well. It's been made out over the years, and especially in recent years, that Queen wasn't particularly popular during The Works period, but internal conflicts aside, they were doing fine |
| cmsdrums 22.07.2018 08:00 |
Indeed - The Works spawned big hit singles in the UK and Europe - they weren’t the washed up 70s rock band by Live Aid which is likely being portrayed by a US focussed film, but a regular ‘pop’ chart presence at that point. The equivalent would be a UK centric film about Kiss or Journey, where they have no hit singles until later in their career due to being featured in a film or tv show, and only a couple of talked about albums, just because in the UK they were pretty much unheard of. |
| Mr.Michael 22.07.2018 13:11 |
It doesn't look bad. And it's very possible they just teasing us and using clips which won't appear in the final cut. Trailers are often like that. |
| Daniel Nester 22.07.2018 15:23 |
Peter Freestone's Q and A online was really enlightening as far as the reasons for eliding and compositing the time periods, among other things. Link: link This will be slagged as official QP pravda, but it is an account from the actual making of the movie. |
| mike hunt 22.07.2018 15:39 |
Day dop wrote: That's the thing, as I said, The Works did well, and Radio Gaga did exceptionally well. It's been made out over the years, and especially in recent years, that Queen wasn't particularly popular during The Works period, but internal conflicts aside, they were doing fineYea, The Works did well from the beginning. Ga Ga was big and I Want To Break Free was a big hit as well. Hard life was a top ten, but not sure how the movie will portray the album. |
| bucsateflon 22.07.2018 19:01 |
...and South American tour |
| Shvili 22.07.2018 22:17 |
I think Lucy Boynton will be a "breakout star" of the move. There's something about her.. oh.... and her voice is mesmerizing when she's talking to Freddie while doing his makeup. Rami Malek, i still have doubts about. For example in trailer 2 at 2:01 when he's walking...What is That???? looks like robotic version of Freddie's walks. I hope there are not to many moments of this kind of ridiculous display in the movie. |
| Katby 23.07.2018 12:17 |
I've just noticed that Brian's hair isn't curly in the Smile scene. It looks more like a John Deacon hairstyle. I'm going to pretend that this confirms the conspiracy theory that Brian's trademark hair has been naturally straight, all along. |
| Biggus Dickus 23.07.2018 13:30 |
^^ My guess is he used to straighten it out. |
| NastyQueenie74 23.07.2018 14:35 |
Katby wrote: I've just noticed that Brian's hair isn't curly in the Smile scene. It looks more like a John Deacon hairstyle. I'm going to pretend that this confirms the conspiracy theory that Brian's trademark hair has been naturally straight, all along.If the scene happens in 1970, then it's not too far off from how it looks in the photos from Mike Grose's stint |
| Pingfah 23.07.2018 14:50 |
I think it looks great. I couldn't care less if they changed some details to make a good movie, it looks like they nailed the inter-band behaviour, all looks very natural. Queen fans are a bit like Star Trek fans, way too geeky and rigid for their own good. Honestly if you could see the amount of discussion that the colour of warp nacelles generates on Star Trek websites, this place reminds me a lot of that. |
| bucsateflon 23.07.2018 15:53 |
What about the Dracula impersonation when he's saying "Then you'll need someone new!" |
| Dr Magus 23.07.2018 19:25 |
Who is playing Adam Lambert? |
| Daniel Nester 23.07.2018 20:02 |
What /\ pingfah said. |
| john bodega 24.07.2018 05:43 |
"colour of warp nacelles" The only distinction I'd make is that warp nacelles never existed, but Queen did. A more apt comparison might be Titanic enthusiasts - you ought to see those motherfuckers go. |
| Seed_Of_Rhy 24.07.2018 16:04 |
What's not right with those Stoly, though? Yep, i'm a slowpoke :3 |
| Raf 25.07.2018 01:12 |
Katby wrote: I've just noticed that Brian's hair isn't curly in the Smile scene. It looks more like a John Deacon hairstyle. I'm going to pretend that this confirms the conspiracy theory that Brian's trademark hair has been naturally straight, all along. |
| darcy-wright 25.07.2018 01:37 |
i read somewhere once, that he didnt like curly hair as all the guitar heroes had long straight hair - jimmy page etc... so straightened it. |
| Killer_Q 25.07.2018 02:38 |
I think it's just wrong to put WWRY made during hot space era. Major butthurt for me. |
| Katby 25.07.2018 10:58 |
Raf wrote:The conspiracy is confirmed! (Or he just straightened it, like everyone else said.)Katby wrote: I've just noticed that Brian's hair isn't curly in the Smile scene. It looks more like a John Deacon hairstyle. I'm going to pretend that this confirms the conspiracy theory that Brian's trademark hair has been naturally straight, all along. |
| Dug 25.07.2018 11:56 |
ive had a' beef' with the official story for a while i.e Queen were a spent force before Live Aid. Queen were massive in 84. it was the year i got into Queen [aged 12] and lots and lots of people in school with me at the time loved Queen then. radio ga ga saved Queen's career in my opinion not live aid. they played two of the songs from 84 at live aid for goodness sake and it was their biggest songs played at live aid. They were regularly being featured in the press and on tv in 84 and had four hit singles and a hit album. i call the official narrative nonsense |
| Dug 25.07.2018 11:57 |
plus, a few of gigs before live aid they played to 250 000 people in Rio |
| runner_70 25.07.2018 15:27 |
Everything points towards Maylor biggibg themselves up and make Freddie less important. Sad. Still got the feeling that SBCwas right in some ways. They really might have considered to let Freddie die in the middle of the Movie and then Show their Queen plus drivel. This might have got scrapped and now they try to sell "the big Queen reunion in 1985 after Freddies huge Mr Bad Guy flop". Utter garbage and another sign that Maylor lost the plot.... |
| Raf 25.07.2018 17:34 |
runner_70 wrote: Everything points towards Maylor biggibg themselves up and make Freddie less important. Sad. Still got the feeling that SBCwas right in some ways. They really might have considered to let Freddie die in the middle of the Movie and then Show their Queen plus drivel. This might have got scrapped and now they try to sell "the big Queen reunion in 1985 after Freddies huge Mr Bad Guy flop". Utter garbage and another sign that Maylor lost the plot....Yeah, you hate Queen+ projects. It took a while for us to get that, but after the millionth thread you spammed on the QAL section of the forum it started to become clear to all of us. SBC said absolutely nothing about them killing off Freddie or trying to make him look less important. There's hardly any evidence of that in the trailers either. SBC actually complained about Brian's wishes to make a more family oriented film, while he feels it's difficult to make a true Freddie biopic like that. Rephrasing that, we could pretty much assume they want to paint Freddie as some sort of perfect hero while SBC wanted to explore the wild, drug abusing horny beast side of Freddie. You're insulting Maylor in advance for something you ASSUME they've done with the film before even watching it. How about you wait some 3 months, watch it, and then, if they really did turn Freddie into some sort of supporting role for the big Smile guys you come back here and bash them for it? |
| mike hunt 25.07.2018 17:53 |
I agree Raf.....watch the movie first before you bash it. I think it could be a hit. I also never agreed that live Aid saved their career. It was obvious Ga Ga was already a big hit, as was The Works album. |
| Wiley 25.07.2018 18:39 |
Yeah, Live Aid didn't save their careers. They were doing more than fine. However, I believe one of the band members mentioned Live Aid felt like a shot in the arm that reinvigorated them and got them wanting to record again. Eventhough they had had a break before The Works I suspect there still were tensions in the band and that plus the extenuating touring they did for that album, including the Sun City controversy, just left them beat. Maybe they would have taken yet another break after that if they hadn't played Live Aid? One can only speculate. |
| runner_70 25.07.2018 18:43 |
Raf do your homework before you post your drivel on hear you sad twat. SBC clearly stated that Maylor were planning to let Freddie die in the midst of the movie whiel "going from strength to strength": Check the Howard Stern interview. If this is true remains to be seen but I have the feeling that there once were loose ideas for exactly that plan before the final script was written. And those "mistakes" with the songs: "FBG" in 1974? '39 on the first tour???No coincidence that these are Brian May songs. He still is a two faced character who more than once was jealous of Freddie. |
| rockchic65 25.07.2018 18:51 |
Sacha did say that but who in their right mind would believe him, he'd been dropped from a movie he'd spent six years putting work into, sour grapes is my theory. Listen to the interview, the way he words it makes it impossible to believe him, it just sounds utterly ridiculous. link |
| runner_70 25.07.2018 19:03 |
he would not state it if it was utter bollocks. I would like to know what he thinks about it now |
| rockchic65 25.07.2018 19:07 |
runner_70 wrote: he would not state it if it was utter bollocks. I would like to know what he thinks about it nowWhy wouldn't he, it's his word against theirs, can't prove it either way so he's nothing to lose. I daresay he'll get asked what he thinks once the movie's released, I guess we'll find out. |
| emrabt 25.07.2018 19:25 |
The thing is it does fit with what we know about Dr. May and his rewriting history. While I don't think it would be half way through the movie, I can totally imagine Brian pushing for a good 15 - 20 minutes devoted to him leading the Queen + projects. |
| emrabt 25.07.2018 19:28 |
I suspect adding more Brian songs to the early years wasn't accidental either, he's got to make sure he gets those royalty cheques. |
| mike hunt 25.07.2018 20:07 |
From the trailers we seen so far, more Freddie songs have been shown than Brian...killer Queen, Bo RHAP, Champions. The only Brian written song so far is We Will Rock You. What's you're point? |
| emrabt 25.07.2018 20:25 |
Well done Mike, watching the trailer and retaining information is a good skill. I'm not sure of your point. Mine is that Brian written songs are used to fill spaces early on where maybe covers of other artists would be more accurate. The movie is going to be a big hit, you can tell as it has got people who are not big fans of Queen talking about Queen, at least in my own social bubble. |
| mike hunt 26.07.2018 00:08 |
I think it will be a big hit from what I see...people seem excited about this movie, but how it will do in the US is the Question. |
| Dr Magus 26.07.2018 11:11 |
If the film is successful it will surely spawn a sequel. |
| emrabt 26.07.2018 12:56 |
I'm not sure it will get a sequel, what with the amount of "creative differences", walk outs and long long production time for this film alone. |
| runner_70 26.07.2018 13:18 |
A sequal including the Magic TOur, Barcelona and the last two albums? no way |
| Dusta 26.07.2018 16:17 |
I think the thing that concerns me is that they may portray Freddie as a cliche', and downplay his value in the band as a musician. Why does it matter now? I don't the hell know. But it seems to matter very much to me. |
| runner_70 26.07.2018 16:24 |
Exactly. Maylor try to big themselves up with showing Freddie's solo career as a huge flop and portraying themselves as his saviour. Brian May has an ego problem when it comes to Freddie as he always stood in his shadow |
| rockchic65 26.07.2018 16:27 |
Dusta wrote: I think the thing that concerns me is that they may portray Freddie as a cliche', and downplay his value in the band as a musician. Why does it matter now? I don't the hell know. But it seems to matter very much to me.Why are you so concerned with something they MIGHT do when there's no reason to even think that. Would it not make more sense to watch the movie and then decide what they did or didn't do to it. |
| rockchic65 26.07.2018 16:30 |
runner_70 wrote: Exactly. Maylor try to big themselves up with showing Freddie's solo career as a huge flop and portraying themselves as his saviour. Brian May has an ego problem when it comes to Freddie as he always stood in his shadowTwo things - one we don't yet know how any of it will play out, even the things in the trailer may get cut or changed, and two Brian has said they didn't have full control over how the film was made, they were consulted and on set for a part of it but they didn't get to make all the decisions. |
| Day dop 26.07.2018 16:32 |
I wonder if Sun City will be included in the movie. I'd have thought that's something May and Taylor would rather have brought up again. |
| Voice of Reason 2018 26.07.2018 17:57 |
Indeed. According to Wikipedia Mr. Bad Guy was released on 29 April 1985. Just a couple of months before Live Aid. A short time to conclude a solo career a flop and arrange a reunion! |
| Voice of Reason 2018 26.07.2018 18:00 |
We don't know how the movie will play out, of course. So why try and censor negative interpretations of what we have seen so far? It's good to have a discussion, isn't it? (I don't know what has come over me today! - You should see my postings on Queen On-line!) |
| Dusta 26.07.2018 18:37 |
runner_70 Bohemian: 564 posts *Posted: 26 Jul 18, 16:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote Exactly. Maylor try to big themselves up with showing Freddie's solo career as a huge flop and portraying themselves as his saviour. Brian May has an ego problem when it comes to Freddie as he always stood in his shadow* Yes. It seems like May is hot and cold when it comes to Freddie's memory. Sometimes, he is very real, and seems truly saddened, and it is in these moments that he will speak of Freddie with regret and deep admiration. I even heard him confess once that it wasn't Freddie who was the diva...it was he and Roger...Fred was the one who always brought everyone together. At other times, however, Brian is not so kind, and does seem to be rather competitive about Freddie. I think a lot of folks only see Freddie as the flamboyant, GAY showman. What I was hoping from a biopic is that the world gets to see Freddie as the intensely musical, good natured and creative individual that he was. |
| bucsateflon 26.07.2018 19:23 |
the plot was chosen perfectly , now all that matters is the production quality, and acting |
| Raf 26.07.2018 23:35 |
Voice of Reason 2018 wrote: We don't know how the movie will play out, of course. So why try and censor negative interpretations of what we have seen so far? It's good to have a discussion, isn't it? (I don't know what has come over me today! - You should see my postings on Queen On-line!)It's not about censoring. It's about not insulting Brian and Roger and making wild claims like it's certain that they've done this or that. One could very well see the last person to post on a certain thread was runner_70, hit "reply" and go "Oh, this idiot again, there comes more Q+ bashing" without even reading his post, and maybe, just maybe, that one time he wasn't talking about Q+. |
| Saint Jiub 27.07.2018 01:53 |
Voice of Reason 2018 wrote: So why try and censor negative interpretations of what we have seen so far?It seems to me that Voice is supporting Happystar's right to have an opinion. Maybe Happystar's interpretations can be considered "negative", and Voice is asking people not to censor Happystar. As for me, I am only concerned about Brian's line in the movie that encourages other band members to be more creative. However, Freddie did not need the encouragement in my opinion. The Fairy Feller Masterstroke has a freaking harpsichord ... link I am no longer outraged that Fat Bottomed Girls appeared in a phony 1974 set list. It is certainly better than "Jesus" or "Someday, One Day" being played at the beginning of the movie and half of the "common-folk" at the theatre walking out 10 minutes into the movie mumbling "WTF". |
| Voice of Reason 2018 27.07.2018 09:57 |
Someone said we have to wait to see the movie before we can criticise it, yet we can praise the movie before seeing it. That's what I was trying to draw attention to. |
| mike hunt 27.07.2018 13:04 |
Saint Jiub wrote:I mentioned that earlier that it worries me....Not only the Black Side, but My Fairy King was Freddie thinking outside of the box more than the others. I hope Brian doesn't rewrite history here. Smile were a basic blues Rock band that everyone was doing at that time...Freddie came in with a different vision. Do you not agree?Voice of Reason 2018 wrote: So why try and censor negative interpretations of what we have seen so far?It seems to me that Voice is supporting Happystar's right to have an opinion. Maybe Happystar's interpretations can be considered "negative", and Voice is asking people not to censor Happystar. As for me, I am only concerned about Brian's line in the movie that encourages other band members to be more creative. However, Freddie did not need the encouragement in my opinion. The Fairy Feller Masterstroke has a freaking harpsichord ... link I am no longer outraged that Fat Bottomed Girls appeared in a phony 1974 set list. It is certainly better than "Jesus" or "Someday, One Day" being played at the beginning of the movie and half of the "common-folk" at the theatre walking out 10 minutes into the movie mumbling "WTF". |
| Raf 27.07.2018 15:27 |
Voice of Reason 2018 wrote: Someone said we have to wait to see the movie before we can criticise it, yet we can praise the movie before seeing it. That's what I was trying to draw attention to.It's about wordsmithing, I guess. One thing is to say it looks like it's gonna be good or bad. Another thing is to make solid assumptions based on vague clues and guesswork and from there on spread the word that Brian and Roger are doing this or that and insulting them over it. People got so used to say pretty much anything to insult one another on the internet they seem to have forgotten how serious it is to go around throwing accusations with no solid evidence. And all of that can be avoided by literally waiting a couple of months and watching the movie. It isn't difficult to limit ourselves to "this and that scene on the trailer look great" or "this little thing looks like they're belittling Freddie" and how our "they're definitely painting Freddie as a Joe Nobody because mean old Brian who's never contributed jack shit to the band's legacy is dead jealous of him!" until the movie is out. It also amazes me how people are so quick to remind us that this is QUEENzone and moan that people enjoying post-Freddie projects are "disrespecting" him or his legacy, or even John Deacon, yet those same people seem to have no trouble insulting the other half of the band in pretty much every thread they join. As far as I know, Brian and Roger are QUEEN too. |
| mike hunt 27.07.2018 17:35 |
You're right! Besides a few worries the movie looks good in my opinion. Bring on November 2nd...and Brian should show how Important he and roger/John were. I also think they get lost in the whole thing at times, as long they do it the right way....we'll see in a few months. |
| Saint Jiub 28.07.2018 04:29 |
I agree (at least partially) that all of this topic's posts in the last 24 hours have been insightful and enjoyable. However I am too tired to try to explain my vague opinion. Maybe tomorrow ... |
| Michael Scapp 28.08.2018 12:28 |
What is this picture depicting? I have no idea on British landmarks, but I picture the guys looking up at the Rainbow Theatre marquee. Any ideas? |
| dudeofqueen 28.08.2018 13:18 |
Re: >What is this picture depicting? Looking at Earl's Court given their styling. And I can't believe that this is anything other than yet another concocted moment in history..... |
| Galileo1564 28.08.2018 13:24 |
Freddie is holding a tape in his left hand. It's Bo Rhap and they're about to give it to Kenny Everett. That and 2 bucks will get you on the subway as we say in my corner of the globe. |
| Holly2003 28.08.2018 13:40 |
This is going to be a historically accurate movie. Therefore, I think they're looking at the TARDIS, wondering how it can be bigger on the inside than the outside. |
| dudeofqueen 28.08.2018 16:15 |
Holly2003, Right on. |
| popy 05.09.2018 05:29 |
New clip shown on Jimmy Kimmel Live, where Rami Malek was interviewed |
| Katby 05.09.2018 21:46 |
Now that we've heard all four band members speak, I have to say I'm very impressed by the actors for Brian, Freddie and John. Their body language and accents are very good. Judging from the short clips we've seen, I think Roger is the least convincing, but still good. |
| slightly mad 22 06.09.2018 08:12 |
New clips of the movie, featuring Freddie in his magic tour crown and robe link |