| Another Roger (re) 08.07.2018 08:21 |
Queen currently have 18,2 million listeners a month. I have yet to find a band or artist who can match that. The closest I have found is the current artist Justin Bieber who has 17,6 million listeners a month. Other big bands I have checked: The Beatles: 13,5 mill Rolling Stones: 11,3 mill U2: 8,9 mill Abba: 5,7 mill Metallica: 9,8 mill Elton John: 10,7 mill Bruce Springsteen: 6,7 mill Elvis: 6,9 mill Pink Floyd: 8,3 mill One Direction: 9,7 mill This surly tells something about Queens standing in 2018? And is there a band who tops Queen in this stat currently? |
| Another Roger (re) 08.07.2018 08:24 |
Spotify says Queen are 73rd in the world. That must be because big hits who disappears quite fast lifts artists to big number and than fades. |
| Another Roger (re) 08.07.2018 08:51 |
I checked the UK top 20 and Drake currently has a big hit and of course he has loads of monthly listenes( 56 mill) then for a while. Its not relevant to compare with artists who has a current hit because their montly listens will be artifically high. Its amazing that Queen that Queen has over 18 millions after all these years. |
| dysan 08.07.2018 09:00 |
Yeah - people who want to listen to Queen wouldn't generally stream them, but a fan of someone like Drake will do. That said, Drake's advertising has choked spotify. |
| Another Roger (re) 08.07.2018 09:08 |
Give Drake 2 years and he will have like 4 mill monthly listens on average. Robin Thicke, who had that enormous hit Blurred Lines, currently have 4. |
| Another Roger (re) 08.07.2018 09:11 |
"people who want to listen to Queen wouldn't generally stream them" Sure about that? My impression is that physical playback is more or less dead. And that goes for the older people as well. But I could be wrong ;) |
| dysan 08.07.2018 10:25 |
Hey, we both could be wrong! |
| haps0821 08.07.2018 21:46 |
If anybody is interested: I found a website that contains the 100 Artists, with the most monthly listeners on Spotify, updated every week. URL I'm not sure if it's 100% correct, but it shows Queen on spot 72. Therefor above Justin Biber, Adel, Red Hot Chili Peppers and Michael Jackson, just to name a few and all of those Artists, well maybe apart from MJ, are quite a lot more active in publishing new music. I also looked at the Artists above Queen and I can't find any band, which is older than them or even focuses on Rock music. What does all of this say about Queen? What does it say about todays mainstream music? Well, Queen are currently touring and have a movie coming up but still, being the 72dr most listened Artists 30 to 40 years after their prime time... That's not easy to achieve (: |
| Makka 09.07.2018 05:31 |
I was disappointed that Brian's 2 solo albums were removed from Spotify last year. I haven't seen an explanation as to why considering his output with Kerry Ellis is on there. I very rarely put CD's on these days so it'd be nice to have them back on there. |
| Michael Scapp 09.07.2018 15:26 |
I quit Spotify and am enjoying Google Play Music now. I wonder if there are stats for this service. |
| FriedChicken 10.07.2018 06:25 |
18 million listeners a month. That's about 10 pounds worth of royalties! |
| Raf 10.07.2018 12:53 |
dysan wrote: Yeah - people who want to listen to Queen wouldn't generally stream them, but a fan of someone like Drake will do. That said, Drake's advertising has choked spotify.Many of my close friends like Queen. Pretty much all my friends - myself included - find Spotify much more convenient than CDs to pack our phones with our favorite music and listen on the car, on this bus, at work, while exercising etc. |
| dysan 10.07.2018 13:21 |
You'll need to qualify that by a ballpark figure for your age |
| Raf 10.07.2018 14:46 |
dysan wrote: You'll need to qualify that by a ballpark figure for your ageAll of us between mid 20s and early 30s. Mostly 2nd gen fans, who grew up with our parents listening to Queen. I particularly used to buy their CDs and new DVDs in my teens, and I started collecting their records on vinyl too. But I can't remember the last time any of them (vinyl, CD or DVD) served any purpose other than look pretty on my shelf. |
| dysan 10.07.2018 16:13 |
Good. That fits in nicely with what I'm saying. Queen don't have a young fanbase like Drake does - however, your squad is young so would listen like that. I agree about the physical format too. |
| ITSM 12.07.2018 04:23 |
Freddie Mercury's In My Defence and Time are finally avalable on Spotify (found out today). Because of Dave Clark, I guess, those tracks has been unavailable until now. |
| FriedChicken 12.07.2018 06:01 |
I don't use Spotify that much because I have it set up to scrobble my tracks to Last.fm And since Spotify often uses ugly tags like 'Bohemian Rhapsody [2011 Remaster]' or Mad The Swine [2011 Remaster] (Bonus Track) and I don't want these ugly tags in my scrobbles I don't use Spotify. I have a NAS with 100 GB of music and I can access it anytime and anywhere. |
| dysan 12.07.2018 08:54 |
I use a 4TB hard drive. I can honestly say I only listen to about 3 albums :D |
| Stardust Parade 14.07.2018 04:06 |
Like Bieber has any actual talent. |
| dysan 14.07.2018 07:17 |
Is last FM still going? I stopped using it because it also kept registering the embarrassing stuff I was checking out :( |
| princesslina 28.07.2018 03:54 |
I love listening to Queen on my CD player (yes, I'm so old school). I don't usually play it in Spotify. Maybe that's the same case with other Queen fans. That's why her followers are lower. |
| Saint Jiub 28.07.2018 04:32 |
I am old school as well and enjoy my CD players. I am too lazy too download music, convert it to mp3, and then put it on my phone. |
| dysan 28.07.2018 06:37 |
I still have dozens of cassettes and still enjoy them as a treat. |
| Saint Jiub 28.07.2018 07:18 |
oops |
| Saint Jiub 28.07.2018 07:18 |
oops |
| Saint Jiub 28.07.2018 07:19 |
dysan wrote: I still have dozens of cassettes and still enjoy them as a treat.When our family got a flat screen TV with a sound bar and a subwoofer several years ago, we threw away the cassette tape deck, record player, stereo speakers, stereo receiver, the 36" CRT TV and our CD player. We only kept our DVD player. I mistakenly believed that I also threw out all my 60 cassette tapes several years ago, as they were gathering dust and hadn't been played in years. Just now, I rediscovered that I still have all 60 of my cassette tapes stored away in the basement. Seeing that I still have these old cassette tapes has made me nostalgic. I also found an old tape cassette boom box squirreled away in the basement. ... perhaps I should plug in this tape cassette boom box and see if it is still operational ... |
| dysan 28.07.2018 07:27 |
Do it. You'll notice nuances that will take you right back to hearing those tapes for the first time. Depends on the boombox of course. Stick headphones in and enjoy the ride. |
| Raf 29.07.2018 15:51 |
Saint Jiub wrote: I am old school as well and enjoy my CD players. I am too lazy too download music, convert it to mp3, and then put it on my phone.That's exactly why Spotify (and Netflix) caught on so quickly among my friends. Buying a whole album just to give it a try and maybe listening to it only a couple of times would be too expensive. Same about buying a movie to watch once. But the ones we did buy (myself, a bunch of Queen CDs, for example), were a little too inconvenient. However, besides the feeling that we were doing something kinda sketchy, just like you said it could be a bit inconvenient too. Find a legit torrent, download it, make sure everything was ok (mistakes on the tags could be enough to make any music app play it all in the wrong order), plug your phone, copy the songs... On Spotify, not only we're downloading legally, there's also no extra steps: you type the name of the artist and it shows you their full discography. Then with 2 clicks it's downloading on your phone in-app. No 3rd party apps, no conversion, no file transfering among devices etc. For non-album people it's also easy to make playlists or download playlists from other people. While I'm often downloading full albums, my girlfriend's often downloading playlists, and her colleagues from work usually make collaborative playlists for their parties. It's also very easy to stream the songs. Besides listening to them on your headphones, as it's on your phone, you can easily listen to them on a bluetooth car radio or stream to any wifi device at home, such as a sound system or TV with Chromecast. It's all very intuitive and easy to use. Pretty much just like looking a movie up on Netflix on your phone and broadcasting it to your smart TV. |
| Raf 29.07.2018 15:52 |
I hope I don't sound like I work for them, hahaha. |
| dysan 29.07.2018 17:30 |
No, you just sound like every other millennial :D It's not your fault thought just the time in which you exist. I think it's lost a lot of magic for the younger generations. You'll never experience the excitement and journey of discovery. It's just all there at once. No context, not earned, not in some cases slaved over to own. And hence not digested and listened to. Just added to whatever 800 song playlist called 'Bertie's 70s Cool Stuff' and allowed to fester and skip if GIles whose BBQ it is doesn't think it's chill enough. God I sound old. |
| Raf 29.07.2018 18:17 |
dysan wrote: No, you just sound like every other millennial :D It's not your fault thought just the time in which you exist. I think it's lost a lot of magic for the younger generations. You'll never experience the excitement and journey of discovery. It's just all there at once. No context, not earned, not in some cases slaved over to own. And hence not digested and listened to. Just added to whatever 800 song playlist called 'Bertie's 70s Cool Stuff' and allowed to fester and skip if GIles whose BBQ it is doesn't think it's chill enough. God I sound old.Yes, you do hahaha. And a bit entitled too. I don't see why someone would have to "earn" the discovery of a band. But if they should... It's not like I was born with a smartphone and Spotify on it. I discovered Queen during my childhood and early teens. First from my mother's CDs (she only had compilations, ANATO and MIH) and Greatest Flix II on VHS. Then, over the course of a few years borrowing a couple of my aunt's CDs whenever I visited her (which would be about once every three months or so). By the time YouTube existed and was somewhat crowded, I'd already spent years lying on the couch every night and listening to the same CDs over and over on my headphones. Not as old as listening to cassettes, but I don't see why the experience would be much different. By the time Spotify was a thing, I was almost graduating at college. Leaving my personal history aside, I don't see why listening to music has to be difficult. Like the guy up there said, he can't be bothered to download, convert between formats, send songs to different devices. But then, there's always that album you won't find easily anymore, not to mention it can get really expensive (and hard to find space for at home) every CD you ever intend to listen to. I don't see how the fact that I can go "I'm in a Pink Floyd mood today" and have all their songs downloaded to my phone while I take my luggage to the car ruins the experience. Not to mention how much easier it is to share music (or pretty much anything, to be honest). With today's technology I can spend very little money to call a friend who moved across the world and we can discuss music while sharing YouTube links and instantly understanding what the other is going on about. I really can't see how anyone would prefer having to communicate by letters which would take forever to get there and maybe once now and again sending an actual, physical mixtape and not even be able to have a proper conversation about the music you're sharing. Let's face it, the old analog technology is fun. But it's more of a nostalgia thing, or a collector's thing. I enjoy my modest vinyl collection. But it'd really suck to have all my music stuck to big, fragile records that can only be played on bulky players. |
| dysan 29.07.2018 18:31 |
It's fiiine dude we're all different. I qualified the meaning of 'earned' with the next sentence. I mean saving up for a tape and trapsing around record shops in every town you visit - not having to pass a test to check your fandom level. It's something you won't know. Like jazz mags in the wood. A lost art. Also, according to the definition it's the millennials who feel 'entitled' :D But yes I agree that vinyl is a pain in the arse. Once I got to having my own mp3 copies it's my preferred choice at home and on the move. One thing that I prefer to streaming is that I generally listen to 80s CD flac rips. I don't trust the brickwalled streaming files. Everything after 'Leaving my personal history aside..' is just personal taste and that's fine. |
| Saint Jiub 30.07.2018 01:08 |
Raf wrote:Thanks for this ... maybe this old geezer (me) will give Spotify a try.Saint Jiub wrote: I am old school as well and enjoy my CD players. I am too lazy too download music, convert it to mp3, and then put it on my phone.That's exactly why Spotify (and Netflix) caught on so quickly among my friends. Buying a whole album just to give it a try and maybe listening to it only a couple of times would be too expensive. Same about buying a movie to watch once. But the ones we did buy (myself, a bunch of Queen CDs, for example), were a little too inconvenient. However, besides the feeling that we were doing something kinda sketchy, just like you said it could be a bit inconvenient too. Find a legit torrent, download it, make sure everything was ok (mistakes on the tags could be enough to make any music app play it all in the wrong order), plug your phone, copy the songs... On Spotify, not only we're downloading legally, there's also no extra steps: you type the name of the artist and it shows you their full discography. Then with 2 clicks it's downloading on your phone in-app. No 3rd party apps, no conversion, no file transfering among devices etc. For non-album people it's also easy to make playlists or download playlists from other people. While I'm often downloading full albums, my girlfriend's often downloading playlists, and her colleagues from work usually make collaborative playlists for their parties. It's also very easy to stream the songs. Besides listening to them on your headphones, as it's on your phone, you can easily listen to them on a bluetooth car radio or stream to any wifi device at home, such as a sound system or TV with Chromecast. It's all very intuitive and easy to use. Pretty much just like looking a movie up on Netflix on your phone and broadcasting it to your smart TV. If I like some music I hear on Spotify, perhaps I will buy it on CD or legally download (purchase) for my phone. Is it possible to download / purchase the alternative songs from News of the World, or do I need to pay $100 for the box set? |
| Costa86 30.07.2018 13:36 |
Spotify is great. I remember using Napster back in the day and thinking that with free pirated songs on mp3, there was no way people would pay to download digital music. But iTunes began to change that, and then Spotify made it free to stream music, and you can get a paid membership for less than 10 quid a month. I have the paid version, so I can play songs over Bluetooth in my car without wasting any mobile 3G/4G data. And I have Spotify on my Playstation, so I can listen to the songs on the sound system hooked up to my TV. All this for 10 quid. Yes, it's a lossy format at the end of the day, but you're paying for something and it's all legal, but it's still dirt cheap and you have access to a huge catalogue of music, all across your devices... smartphone, tablet, laptop, computer at work, Playstation/Xbox, car's Bluetooth/AUX... And if you don't want to pay, you can still listen to the songs, but you just can't skip from one song to the other (I think you're allowed 5 or so skips before it won't let you do any more for a few hours... you just have to listen to the album/playlist/etc. songs one after the other, and you can't rewind or fast forward a particular track either). |
| Penetration_Guru 30.07.2018 22:16 |
I don't understand how Queen can have the most listeners of anybody, and be ranked 73rd in the world. |
| Another Roger (re) 31.07.2018 08:58 |
"I don't understand how Queen can have the most listeners of anybody, and be ranked 73rd in the world." Try to compare Queen to artist that do not have a current hit etc. Hint: The Beatles, Rolling Stones, Bruce Springsteen, Elvis Presley, Abba, U2 etc. That should make you understand if you are willing to. Do you think Drake will have as many listeners as Queen in 2 years time? Not a chance. Even Justin Bieber who has been the biggest thing in the world for years among the young struggles to beat Queen on monthly listens already now. He is currently on 20 millions. Not bad for a band putting out their last record in 1991. |
| dysan 31.07.2018 10:38 |
Which goes back to my original point - Queen's fanbase are not mass streaming service users, unlike the current picks of the pops. |
| Day dop 04.08.2018 03:52 |
Yeah, Queen are the most listened to classic rock group on Spotify. Not bad going really. |
| Day dop 04.08.2018 03:54 |
Being as the overwhelming majority of people who use Spotify are Millenials, it suggests that Queen's music is more popular with younger people than the other classic rock acts too. That doesn't surprise me either. |
| Sealion 04.08.2018 11:35 |
I think, Spotify is also played in many public places, such as restaurants, at the doctor‘s ect. They usually choose one of the given playlists or, if they really care, make their own playlist. Since Queen has really big hits, at least one of heir songs should be on every hit list. Ergo, a lot of monthly listeners are added (and every restaurant/Café ect. is just counted as 1 listener in the statistics). :-) I for one only use Spotify, when I‘m discovering new music. It helps to decide, if I really want to buy a song or an album. Since I own all Queen albums in physical form and made them MP3s, I‘m not one of these monthly listeners. |
| Saint Jiub 04.08.2018 18:44 |
dysan wrote: Do it. You'll notice nuances that will take you right back to hearing those tapes for the first time. Depends on the boombox of course. Stick headphones in and enjoy the ride.I just listened to my tape of Dr Demento and Combo Audio from my early 1980's college undergrad days ... Good times ... link link I wanted to dedicate both of these linked songs to a certain "cheery celebrity" on QZ, ... but it would almost be stooping to his level and I might end up in jail ... |
| Thrill Yeti 08.01.2020 22:55 |
This article has lots of interesting statistics regarding Queen and Spotify: link They are really smashing it on there. Currently 22nd in terms of monthly listeners. No other classic artist comes close. |
| dysan 09.01.2020 08:09 |
Good numbers but that's just because they're in vogue and remain commercial. I'm sure Bowie surprised many in jan 2016 - I'm sure he's dropped of massively. Spotify is a disposable thing. The technology is there now that people don't need to own something to listen to - and indeed I'd say the vast majority of users won't actually listen to the same thing more than a few times and then move on to whatever the algorithm says they should next. Or Something they heard in a film that sounds cool or well chill. It's exciting day for all this but also slightly depressing for the business. My news is I bought a HD audio player for my flacs on the move. Utter waste of money. |
| Dim 09.01.2020 10:34 |
Queen since streaming platforms launched have big numbers, like the download sales and physical sales. That's why the cinema studios wanted to produce the movie even if Queen production and Freddie estates didn't give their approval. So this is why Brian said that if they didn't approve - someone else would do it. Nowdays Queen sales are much bigger than previous years. |
| dysan 09.01.2020 11:06 |
That's because when they launched people went on them and thought.. 'I wonder who's on here... Cardiacs? Nope. Ten Benson? Nope. Half Man Half Biscuit? Nope. Queen? Ah yeah Queen I'll listen to the 2 songs I know.' |
| Thrill Yeti 09.01.2020 11:52 |
They obviously received a boost from the movie, but they were still the biggest classic artist prior to that. And anyway, Elton John's had a film out more recently, and his streaming numbers are nowhere near Queen's. Basically I think Gen Z really like Queen, which is interesting. |
| dysan 09.01.2020 12:10 |
Wait till Elton dies. |
| Nathan H 09.01.2020 13:47 |
I'm in Generation Z and I've known about Queen since I've been about seven when I first heard We Are The Champions and We Will Rock You. Then I found more Queen songs and now know all my stuff about the group. My theory is that Queen have the most best known songs compared to any other classic artist. Queen's Top 8 songs on Spotify have at least 250 million streams each and I consider these songs to be their best known and I reckon most people will have heard of them. - Bohemian Rhapsody - Somebody To Love - WWRY - WATC - Don't Stop Me Now - Another One Bites The Dust - Under Pressure - I Want To Break Free These songs are often on the radio, TV, compilation albums and films which is why they are so well known. I growing up hadn't really heard of anyone else. For example, I didn't hear or know a Beatles song until I searched on YouTube but I knew at that point that I had heard of Here Comes The Sun and Hey Jude. The best thing which introduced me into old music when I was young was a Children In Need medley led by Peter Kay. That's how I learnt Hey Jude - but I didn't know that it was The Beatles as it was a very short extract. One of the other songs I learnt to discover is Fleetwood Mac's Don't Stop - I remember listening to that all the time on YouTube after. It was on that site that I discovered The Chain which I recognised that famous bass riff from Formula One. It was at the Queen's Diamond Jubilee Concert where Elton performed that I was introduced to his music. Up to that point I had only heard of Don't Go Breaking My Heart without knowing it was him. Whereas with Queen I always knew it was them and I knew at least half a dozen songs without realising it suggesting they have more media exposure then anyone else. I can see Queen lasting longer than any other band from the 20th century due to their number of very well known songs. The only artists that may come close is Abba, Oasis, Michael Jackson and Elton. |
| dysan 09.01.2020 14:39 |
It's a transitory thing. They have the best known songs for the brief bubble of time (in the scheme of things) you have been aware. The curve will wane and they will be replaced. I'm old enough to have seen this before with acts going through - for whatever reason - their moribund rejuvenation. |
| dysan 09.01.2020 14:40 |
You should probably change your screen name too :D |
| dysan 09.01.2020 14:45 |
(none of what you say is wrong BTW and I wouldn't want you to think I'm correcting you - I think everyone's 'in' is just as important as the next persons) |
| kosimodo 09.01.2020 17:22 |
Are there more people who completly doesnt know that drake guy? I dont live in a cave. Got kids between 10 and 20 :) |
| Nathan H 09.01.2020 21:45 |
kosimodo wrote: Are there more people who completly doesnt know that drake guy? I dont live in a cave. Got kids between 10 and 20 :)I literally know nothing by Drake, I can name one song which I hate. I know very little about modern day pop shite even though I should cos its my generation. Obviously I like some of it but I can't stand most of it. I have to be honest, since I've got older more and more people my age seem to like vinyl and older artists. So there's less of a need for me to know or listen anything about it which for me is fantastic as I can listen to what I like best! |
| Thrill Yeti 10.01.2020 11:51 |
It's true that it's to some extent about fashion. But as a Queen fan part of me wants to think that Queen's music is just better and therefore will be enjoyed by younger generations more than others'. Can't someone just humour me on that? |
| dysan 10.01.2020 14:51 |
Yes. |
| Thrill Yeti 10.01.2020 15:28 |
Thanks, looking forward to it. |
| brENsKi 10.01.2020 15:53 |
Thrill Yeti wrote:It's true that it's to some extent about fashion. But as a Queen fan part of me wants to think that Queen's music is just better and therefore will be enjoyed by younger generations more than others'. Can't someone just humour me on that?sorry. you can think it, but it isn't a fact. The Beatles will be around for centuries to come - for one reason. They redefined modern music. Everything from 1964-now goes back to them. Queen will always be (arguably) the 2nd greatest band of all time. |
| Thrill Yeti 10.01.2020 16:27 |
Not necessarily. Obviously The Beatles have had way more impact and redefined pop music way more than Queen. But that doesn't necessarily mean their music will date better. It's really hard to pin down why some music dates better than others, but I feel like Queen's is dating pretty well. |
| kosimodo 10.01.2020 21:09 |
To me it looks like playing queen looks like a litmustest for musicians. If u can pull it off, u r good. Plus.. some songs are just good for commercials.. |