| Star* 02.07.2018 18:16 |
Looking through the bands 80s albums and "The Game" was surely there greatest of that decade. It had great songs in many styles and had 4 massive singles taken from it, Crazy little thing, Save Me, Another one bites the dust, Play the game. i will stick my neck out here and say after "The Game" album it all went sideways! Still it was a massive success in America and the UK. From the 80s you wont find a better Queen album than "The Game". What do you guys think? |
| Freddie rey 02.07.2018 18:32 |
For me, A Kind Of Magic is better than The Game. But that's a personal thing |
| Star* 02.07.2018 18:48 |
I found that A kind of Magic was mainly linked to the Highlander film so for me was not really a proper Queen album as such, even though it had A kind of magic & Friends will be friends on it which were my two fav tracks from that album. The Game spawned 4 hits were Magic only 3 and they were no where as powerful. |
| dysan 02.07.2018 19:51 |
Much like Scary Monsters, released the same year, I generally think of it as the last 70s album. I love The Game but it does feel as incomplete as pretty much everything up to Innuendo. From that perspective, I'm not sure it's better than Hot Space. Depends on my mood :) |
| Chopin1995 02.07.2018 21:42 |
I have a soft spot for The Miracle and I prefer it. The Game is too short and (for me) it lacks that famous Queen pompous, sophisticated feel. But this is how they wanted this album to be and that's what they did together with Mack. Now when I think about it, I like better Queen albums produced by D.Richards and Roy Baker. But I still adore some songs - Dragon Attack, Save Me, SASS and Play The Game (although I prefer it live in this case) and can enjoy the rest. Also the cover of The Game is exceptionally bad IMVHO. It looks like it was made by a 10 years old kid in a simplest editor. And why that photo is so blurry? Whereas on The Miracle I love everything, maybe apart from Party and the artwork is much much better. The overall feel of The Miracle is closer to me. |
| Sebastian 03.07.2018 01:34 |
Two-fifths of The Game were recorded in the seventies, though, including its two best songs, IMO. |
| Dim 03.07.2018 07:04 |
Maybe I am a minority believing that Flash Gordon soundtrack is great piece of music. Also The works has good songs from pop 80s-70s combination (Radio GA GA), 80s pop IWTBF, prog rock Machines, headbanging Rock (Hammer to Fall), to classic Queen ballad. If this album had Love kills, I go crazy and killing time it could have been a milestone for the 80s |
| Golden Salmon 03.07.2018 11:42 |
Just my personal opinion too, but "The Miracle" is their best 80s album even though it doesn't feel like an 80s work as much as their other ones (the one that feels the most like that to me is AKOM). Perhaps that's why I think that, on top of the fact that it feels a bit like they thought it could be their final album. In any case, I think it was Brian who said that "The Game" was the logical choice for a second DVDA release, since they considered it their greatest album after ANATO. I might be wrong about this, but I think he meant it from a commercial point of view rather than absolute musical properties. |
| The Fairy King 03.07.2018 12:02 |
Golden Salmon wrote: Just my personal opinion too, but "The Miracle" is their best 80s album even though it doesn't feel like an 80s work as much as their other ones (the one that feels the most like that to me is AKOM). Perhaps that's why I think that, on top of the fact that it feels a bit like they thought it could be their final album. In any case, I think it was Brian who said that "The Game" was the logical chance for a second DVDA release, since they considered it their greatest album after ANATO. I might be wrong about this, but I think he meant it from a commercial point of view rather than absolute musical properties.The Game is their best selling studio album in the US...so yes it's from a commercial POV. ANATO, not only cause it was their a big commercial succes worldwide, but it also has their flagship single Bo Rhap. I would've liked Queen II to be their next DVD-A release for obvious reasons. |
| Vocal harmony 03.07.2018 12:21 |
I try not to rate albums as better than or worse than each other. But I do find myself playing The Game more than the next four albums that followed it ( I probably listen to Inuendo as much as if not more than The Game) I like the fact that they made quite a brave decision to go with, on most of it, a very sparce and dry production, turning their back on the almost over production they were known for. |
| Star* 03.07.2018 14:34 |
I obviously think The Game was easy to chose from the 80s Queen back catalogue but maybe i should debate the best 70s Queen album to ruffle a few feathers on here? |
| Jimmy Dean 04.07.2018 01:41 |
i agree with some poeple here... it's an 80s album by definition but sounds like it capped the 70s. their most 80s sounding album is without a doubt The Works. And it's my least favorite of the bunch. Queen's worst albums but (arguably) most of their greatest singles were all released in the 80s. This clearly represented their focus once Hot Space tanked. And suffice it to say, it was a very smart move. Best of the 80s is A Kind of Magic. Yes, it was a partial soundtrack album... but aside from Pain Is So Close To Pleasure - the album is cohesive and has some great filler (Don't Lose Your Head, Gimme The Prize, One Year Of Love) to patch up the album from its monsters (A Kind of Magic, One Vision, Who Wants To Live Forever). And the other 2 songs were nothing short of brilliant... We Are The Champions 1986 = Friends Will Be Friends and (generally regarded as a) fan favorite, Princes of the Universe. |
| Thistle 04.07.2018 01:53 |
The Game is one of my favourite albums from Queen's catalogue. Like dysan, I think of it as a 70's album, despite its release date lol |
| Invisible Woman 04.07.2018 07:27 |
The Game is great but I most like Innuendo and The Miracle. It doesn't matter to me when albums released. |
| pittrek 04.07.2018 07:28 |
Isn't 1980 the last year of the 70's?
EDIT: Wiki says
However, the Gregorian calendar begins with the year 1. (There is no year "zero", and the year before AD 1 is 1 BC with nothing in between.) Therefore, its first decade is from AD 1 to AD 10, the second decade from AD 11 to AD 20, and so on.[5] So, although "the 1960s" comprises the years 1960 to 1969, "the 197th decade" spans 1961 to 1970. |
| bucsateflon 04.07.2018 08:11 |
A Kind of Magic followed by The Works |
| Thistle 04.07.2018 15:09 |
Fuck the Gregorian calendar lol, it's based on mistakes and idiocy. |
| cmsdrums 05.07.2018 12:36 |
The Game and The Miracle for me as their best 80s albums.....The Works and AKOM were the albums I played to death as a 13 - 15 yr old when they came out, and which really got me into Queen, but over the years I've listened to those less and less, and find the sonic qualities of both are pretty much the worst of their catalogue. |
| Star* 05.07.2018 16:16 |
Interesting as after The Game which is my top 80s album my second favourite is The Works! Kind of Magic was mainly tagged with the Highlander film and that made me feel it was not really a proper Queen effort for an album. The Miracle had a few good tunes on it but i got bored of it after a while. |
| dysan 06.07.2018 07:25 |
The Miracle brings me most joy when I listen to it, purely for nostalgic reasons. The only Queen album I listen to all the way through on a sunny day. 1989 4eva! |
| cmsdrums 06.07.2018 11:08 |
dysan wrote: The Miracle brings me most joy when I listen to it, purely for nostalgic reasons. The only Queen album I listen to all the way through on a sunny day. 1989 4eva!Same here - I was 17 when it came out and that was a great time, so it's special to me for nostalgic reasons! |
| Star* 06.07.2018 14:04 |
Yes i can understand that certain albums reflects good times when that album got released, so its probably the same for me with "The Game" album but all the songs on that album are all brilliant and in my opinion it is Queen at there most creative best on any eighties album easily. "Play the game" had a grand regal sound to it and "save me" was incredible with Brian's guitar playing on that track & Freddie's vocals were outstanding too. |
| runner_70 07.07.2018 18:48 |
The Miracle is 50/50 for me: On the one hand one of their best songs ever like "Was It All Worth It", "Scandal", "I Want It All" and "Breakthru" on the other hand utter garbage and some of their worst songs ever like "Rain Must Fall", "My Baby Does Me", "Party" and "Khashoggis Ship". Very patchy album for me. Their best 80's album is Hot Space - still like it as it was my first Queen album I bought back in 1982 |
| mike hunt 07.07.2018 20:44 |
Yea yea Yea, half of The Game was recorded in 79, but the album was released in 1980, so technically it's an 80's album...I agree with Happystar and others, The Game was their best of that decade. It had the monster hits and deeper cuts like Sail Away and Dragon Attack, Need Your Loving and Prime Jive. After that they lost it a bit...they were still able too come up with big hits, but the albums were lacking as a whole. The Miracle had some really good tunes, but some songs they sounded old and tired like the first 2 tracks. |
| Star* 07.07.2018 20:59 |
Yeah i agree Mike The first 2 tracks from The Miracle album "Party" & "Khashoggis Ship" were truly awful tracks. I am sure they could have found something much better than that to open up the album. |
| Saint Jiub 08.07.2018 01:09 |
I am one of those oddballs who think the Miracle is Queen's best 80's album. For me Khashoggi's Ship, The invisible Man, Breakthru, and Rain Must Fall are the best tracks on the album with Scandal being being my least favorite "meh" album track (but I like the 12" version of Scandal). |
| aprilrussell 19.07.2018 07:40 |
The Game is their best selling studio album in the US...so yes it's from a commercial POV. ANATO, not only cause it was their a big commercial succes worldwide, but it also has their flagship single Bo Rhap. ____________________ five nights at freddy's demo |
| Day dop 21.07.2018 17:56 |
1) The Game 2) The Works I can't decide which is better out of A Kind of Magic and The Miracle. So it might be a tie. I'm not sure. While A Kind of Magic has some very strong tracks (OV, AKOM, WWTLF, POTU), The Miracle - overall - I think is a better listen from start to finish. |
| Star* 22.07.2018 08:17 |
Day drop: Personally if i had to choose between "The Miracle" or "A kind of Magic" i would surely choose "Magic" easily. The Miracle lets itself down with "Party" & " Kashoggis Ship" which are dreadful tracks. To think Queen had loads more material from "The Miracle" but discarded it for the tracks they picked out for the album! |
| Day dop 22.07.2018 21:20 |
I don't consider Kashoggis Ship to be dreadful. I like that track. |
| Day dop 22.07.2018 21:20 |
I don't consider Kashoggis Ship to be dreadful. I like that track. |
| Day dop 22.07.2018 21:20 |
I don't consider Kashoggis Ship to be dreadful. I like that track. |
| Star* 23.07.2018 07:14 |
My Baby does me, Kashoggis Ship, Party, there is three dud songs for a start! I bet Queen discarded better material. |
| Chopin1995 23.07.2018 08:56 |
I don't see any problem with Khashoggi's Ship. I think the song would sound great on stage as a part of medley. |
| dysan 23.07.2018 11:22 |
Strangely, in context, KS was very exciting crashing into Party. But when the stand alone version was on Deep Cuts it seemed to lose something and I found it quite flimsy. BM is playing on Party like an animal. If that was a new young band people would be spunking about it. |
| Star* 23.07.2018 14:33 |
Well "Party" sounded like Queen jamming in the studio and not caring about detail or quality of the music. It was a raw sound but not the usual rich grand sound we associate Queen with. |
| Vocal harmony 23.07.2018 16:41 |
happystar wrote: Well "Party" sounded like Queen jamming in the studio and not caring about detail or quality of the music. It was a raw sound but not the usual rich grand sound we associate Queen with.Isn't that what Dragon Attack sounds like and Sleeping On The Side Walk. Though I wouldn't say that there was no care for detail or quality. The rich grand sound had all but gone on The Game. As an album I thought The Miracle was a much more cohesive album than The Works or A Kind Of Magic. |
| Star* 23.07.2018 19:36 |
You cant get any richer Queen sound than Play the game, it was grand regal and very Freddie. Dragon Attack was the excellent and Brian lets rip on that track, classic May ! |
| mike hunt 23.07.2018 20:29 |
I agree Happysar, Play The Game and Dragon Attack are obviously better than Party....The Works, Magic and The Miracle are pretty much on the same level for me. Innuendo was the best they did in years. A true Queen album in every way. |
| Saint Jiub 24.07.2018 03:41 |
mike hunt wrote: I agree Happysar, Play The Game and Dragon Attack are obviously better than Party....The Works, Magic and The Miracle are pretty much on the same level for me. Innuendo was the best they did in years. A true Queen album in every way.Someone agreed with "Happysar"? Will wonders never cease? |
| Star* 24.07.2018 07:11 |
Hey that is one poke in the eye for Vocal Harmony on here then yipppppppppppppppppppppppppe someone actually agrees with me ! VH "i am in the music industry blah blah blah so what ....... you still have terrible tastes....... |
| dysan 24.07.2018 07:39 |
Dude, don't reduce it to personal tastes, especially when your previous post had such incredible flawed logic. Someone saying they like what is generally accepted to be a flimsy song because it holds nice memories is every bit as worthwhile as someone saying they like something because it's a technical marvel. |
| marymiller411 24.07.2018 08:41 |
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| marymiller411 24.07.2018 08:43 |
Just my personal opinion, A Kind Of Magic is better than The Game, for me as their best 80s albums. |
| mike hunt 24.07.2018 14:40 |
Saint Jiub wrote:mike hunt wrote: I agree Happysar, Play The Game and Dragon Attack are obviously better than Party....The Works, Magic and The Miracle are pretty much on the same level for me. Innuendo was the best they did in years. A true Queen album in every way.Someone agreed with "Happysar"? |
| Star* 24.07.2018 15:31 |
Mike: You would like me if you met me though! i am not as much the enemy as most paint me on here! |
| dysan 24.07.2018 16:58 |
I think we'd all get on in the pub. Until we got pissed and had to make jukebox choices :D |
| mike hunt 24.07.2018 17:24 |
I agree... |
| Star* 25.07.2018 12:50 |
Yes i would like that very much! i would be like Freddie and ask how big your cock was though ha ha ha |
| Vocal harmony 26.07.2018 11:36 |
happystar wrote: Yes i would like that very much! i would be like Freddie and ask how big your cock was though ha ha haThat line works if you're Freddie Mercury in a gay bar/club in the late 70's or 80's. In a social gathering of fans you would look like an idiot. |
| Star* 26.07.2018 14:38 |
Vocal Harmony : you dont go to enough gay bars though do you? |
| Thistle 26.07.2018 15:45 |
Getting utterly ridiculous, this conversation. |
| Star* 26.07.2018 18:03 |
Thistleboy1980 : It all done in the best possible taste! lol |
| dysan 26.07.2018 18:55 |
It would've been a great opener for a QZ meet up. But not at the urinals. |
| Star* 26.07.2018 19:12 |
Dysan: You wouldnt say that after 6 pints would you? |
| dysan 26.07.2018 20:00 |
I'd undo my fly and turn to you and say 'perfection unbeaten'. |
| Saint Jiub 26.07.2018 23:55 |
dysan wrote: I'd undo my fly and turn to you and say 'perfection unbeaten'.LOL Oops ... Maybe I meant to say to dysan: "watch your language fuckwit" Nah ... |
| dysan 27.07.2018 06:57 |
ha |
| Star* 27.07.2018 10:50 |
Dysan : if you done that id end up going down on you lol You would like that i guess? |
| Saint Jiub 28.07.2018 04:39 |
happystar wrote: Dysan : if you done that id end up going down on you lol You would like that i guess?I am channelling my inner "Seinfeld" ... ... Not that there's anything wrong with that ... |
| Mark_Glasgow 09.08.2018 13:23 |
I think the The Game was the perfect album to take Queen into the 80s. Music was changing and if Queen had released something like Queen 2 or ANATO in 1980 then they would have disappeared or at least become a cult act living on former glories. Having said that, I think every album released after The Game was slightly worse than its predecessor. And yes, that does mean I think Hot Space was a better album than anything that came after it. They became a singles band with a greater ratio of filler per album right until the end. |
| Star* 09.08.2018 13:36 |
Hi Mark, i think probably "The Works" album was the last classic Queen album of the 80s but i know "A Kind of Magic" album had a few great songs on it. For me The Miracle and Innuendo were Queen getting lazy and it showed. |
| The Fairy King 09.08.2018 20:54 |
The Game wouldve been better with Adam Lambert on vocals. |
| SkyeTV 09.08.2018 20:55 |
happystar wrote: The Miracle and Innuendo were Queen getting lazy and it showed.I know. AIDS, eh? |
| MisterCosmicc 10.08.2018 01:22 |
The Game had Dragon Attack as it’s ‘hard rock’ song. Not hard rocking enough in my opinion. Sail Away Sweet Sister was terrible. Love the album but not my favorite of the 80’s. |
| Star* 10.08.2018 06:32 |
SkyeTv That was a terrible cruel comment and you should hang your head in shame, mocking Freddie like that. We were not discussing anything as nasty as AIDS but you have to lower the tone with your stupidity to get a cheap laugh. If you cant post something sensible then fuck off my thread. |
| *goodco* 10.08.2018 13:30 |
but it grabbed at your OCD, which was worth the laugh, and it worked. to use your words "(happystar/Gerry) That was a terrible cruel comment and you should hang your head in shame, mocking (fill in the blank) like that. We were not discussing (Q+AL or AL) but you have to lower the tone with your stupidity to get a cheap laugh. If you cant post something sensible then f*ck off my thread." Haven't you said that this is a discussion board, with rights to post whatever one wants? (stupid and repetitive and narrow minded as they may be) |
| Star* 10.08.2018 19:14 |
Goodco: Mocking Freddie about Aids was not a very nice thing to write and if you thought that was funny then you are as evil as the prat that wrote it in the first place. |
| AlbaNo1 10.08.2018 19:32 |
I think Skye may have been making an ironic observation on the comment that Queen were “lazy” during a period when the singer was dying and putting every last bit of effort , creativity and energy into making music, |
| Saint Jiub 10.08.2018 20:10 |
happystar wrote: Goodco: Mocking Freddie about Aids was not a very nice thing to write and if you thought that was funny then you are as evil as the prat that wrote it in the first place.Goodco did not say that the post was funny. He only said that your reaction was funny. Funnier yet is your above comments about evil. link |
| SkyeTV 10.08.2018 21:13 |
AlbaNo1 wrote: I think Skye may have been making an ironic observation on the comment that Queen were “lazy” during a period when the singer was dying and putting every last bit of effort , creativity and energy into making music,Exactly, and it's a pity that it flew right over happystar's head. I'd never mock Freddie but was mocking the "lazy" comment as it came across as dumb. Think about it Happystar just think why it was idiotic to call queen lazy during this time. Maybe its you who should be hanging their head in shame |
| SkyeTV 10.08.2018 21:15 |
happystar wrote: you are as evil as the prat that wrote it in the first place.i'm not the prat as you're the one who missed the point, think before you bleat. |
| Star* 11.08.2018 09:11 |
No you misunderstood what i was saying which was The Miracle & Innuendo were lazy song writing ability compared to The Game album which was a dynamic Queen album. Sure we know Freddie put everything into his singing AIDS or no AIDS but the other three Queen members song writing on the last three albums was weak. |
| Sealion 11.08.2018 11:35 |
The Game was my first Queen album back in the day and I could write a bit about my opinion. But since I enjoy Q+AL and you always say, that therefore I can‘t be a „real“ Queen fan, I will not take part in your discussion. Bye |
| Star* 11.08.2018 13:31 |
Sealion Pleased you understand which section you belong in. This thread is for Queen fans who actually appreciate the four man talent of the real Queen group. The Game album is probably too rich for your ears now anyway if you are all aloof with Adam Lambert and his plastic singing. |
| Saint Jiub 11.08.2018 18:09 |
happystar wrote: No you misunderstood what i was saying which was The Miracle & Innuendo were lazy song writing ability compared to The Game album which was a dynamic Queen album. Sure we know Freddie put everything into his singing AIDS or no AIDS but the other three Queen members song writing on the last three albums was weak.Roger's songs, Breakthru, Heaven for Everyone, and These Are the Days of Our Lives were weak songs? I think not ... ... But you must be right as you are the sole "true" Queen fan with a "legitimate" opinion. LOL |
| Star* 12.08.2018 08:15 |
Those songs that you mention are not as good as anything from The Game album. The sales of The Game album proves that one. To appreciate decent Queen tunes you must have good taste in music dears ! |
| Sealion 12.08.2018 10:45 |
happystar wrote: Those songs that you mention are not as good as anything from The Game album. The sales of The Game album proves that one. To appreciate decent Queen tunes you must have good taste in music dears !The Game only sold more, because the US were still into Queen. After that they lost a big chunk of their fanbase there. In Europe the later albums were more successful (apart from Hot Space). Still, The Game is my favorite album. Nevertheless, „Good taste in music“ is always subjective. Something you don‘t seem to understand. |
| cmsdrums 12.08.2018 11:00 |
happystar wrote: Those songs that you mention are not as good as anything from The Game album. The sales of The Game album proves that one.Ah, so some of Justin Bieber and Britney Spears’ output is better than Queen then if it sold better than The Game? |
| Star* 12.08.2018 14:05 |
CMSDrums That is an unfair comment because these days we have downloads and hype to get albums big sales. Queens The Game album was pure talent and hard work and they needed no hype because they were genuinely talented. Justin Bieber and that shower are hyped and pay the powers that be to make them look credible. |
| Saint Jiub 12.08.2018 14:12 |
Any Britney or Justin song is better than a pseudo-disco or Elvis wannabe song. |
| Star* 12.08.2018 18:06 |
Sorry but i am not a fly in your pathetic honey trap lol |
| Vocal harmony 12.08.2018 19:39 |
happystar wrote: CMSDrums That is an unfair comment because these days we have downloads and hype to get albums big sales. Queens The Game album was pure talent and hard work and they needed no hype because they were genuinely talented. Justin Bieber and that shower are hyped and pay the powers that be to make them look credible.No it isn't unfair. Britney Spears was selling albums way before downloads became a huge selling stream. Plenty of other acts have outsold The Game, not just Spears and Bieber. So as CMSDrums pointed out to you, judging things on the basis that you introduced to the discussion, plenty of acts have made better albums and are better performers. And as far as people being hyped. Are you now going to claim that in 1980 Queen didn't have record company backing and advertising to push sales. |
| SkyeTV 12.08.2018 19:48 |
happystar just bleats he dosent think, sheer stupidity and couldnt see a counter argument coming if it kicked him in the balls think man, think |
| Chopin1995 12.08.2018 22:01 |
Freddie Mercury was a mediocre musician, vocalist and songwriter. The sales of his 2 solo albums prove that one. |
| Star* 13.08.2018 08:32 |
Vocal Harmony: Well you just proved my point you are no Queen fan if you consider other artists better than the band you claim to follow and support. Always said there is a load of knob heads on this site who do not appreciate Queen especially in there most famous years that they were hot property. Who are you kidding comparing the likes of plastic pop to Queen are you mad? A lot has changed in the music industry from 1980 to were Bieber and Spears are now and you cannot compare different generations by sales figures. You need to buy a book on Queen and educate yourself fella. Queen - Greatest Hits The biggest selling album in the Uk ever ! And before you have a dig at me for saying that, It says that on the record which is in the shops as i write this. |
| Star* 13.08.2018 08:34 |
SKYETV You are obviously not popular on here either are you, as MOOGHEAD has opened up a discussion on you and your bad comments. |
| Vocal harmony 13.08.2018 09:52 |
happystar wrote: Vocal Harmony: Well you just proved my point you are no Queen fan if you consider other artists better than the band you claim to follow and support. Always said there is a load of knob heads on this site who do not appreciate Queen especially in there most famous years that they were hot property. Who are you kidding comparing the likes of plastic pop to Queen are you mad? A lot has changed in the music industry from 1980 to were Bieber and Spears are now and you cannot compare different generations by sales figures. You need to buy a book on Queen and educate yourself fella. Queen - Greatest Hits The biggest selling album in the Uk ever ! And before you have a dig at me for saying that, It says that on the record which is in the shops as i write this.Your discussin was about The Game, don't now change albums to Greatest Hits to suite your agenda. You brought up the subject of sales (of The Game) as proof of how good it is and how good the band were, rather than discussing it's musical merits. When people, me included, pointed out to you that on that basis ( an argument YOU introduced) many other acts have out sold that album ( The Game) and are therefore better than Queen. The fact you don't understand irony and seem to be inept at holding an informed discussion has no barring on me being a Queen fan. . . . The truth is in the US The Game sold more than any other Qiueen album, it was also the point where a lot of old fans decided it wasn't Queen enough, not like the 70's. The two singles, ABTD and CLTCL appealed to the mass market, both singles were huge and consequently the album sold to a whole new market., the next album didn't work so well. Maybe YOU should read some books about the band and record sales in general and make an effort to understand things away from just saying Freddie was the best and Queen were the biggest ban in the world. |
| Star* 13.08.2018 11:09 |
Vocal Harmony Do not wiggle out of saying what you said which was "There is better performers than Queen out there and with better albums" You cannot deny you said that. Any Queen fan would not say anything as insulting as that. You are not a Queen fan and your attitude towards the band stinks. You are in the music business so you say so probably you are a gutter press journalist by the way you insult everyone on here, think your head and shoulders above everybody else on here with your smart arsed answers eh? Well in my opinion you are no Queen fan so go and find your "better artists than Queen then". |
| SkyeTV 13.08.2018 13:40 |
Happystar, Moog didn't open a thread about bad comments he's made some ramble about me being a character I. E he thinks I'm an alter ego. He hasn't mentioned popularity n I'm not sure why you have as my words about you aren't about that rather your ability to state the inane n reduculous without the ability of identifying the obvious counter attack that will come your way. In your attempts to defend yourself you're actually digging a hole for yourself. You need to think on. Also, are you saying that if you're a fan of Queen, you cannot be a fan of anyone else? That's idiotic. |
| Star* 13.08.2018 13:49 |
Skyetv Of course you can like other artists and we all do but you must have one fav band that is head and shoulders above the rest and mine is Queen. Queen with Freddie Mercury is an unbeatable tour de force. I say what i think and believe me i can handle myself on here with all the silly people who have no respect for Freddie and Queen they would rather give the respect to the Queen + crap which is utter dross. |
| SkyeTV 13.08.2018 14:10 |
Your comments suggest otherwise. You tell people they're not real queen fans if they like other stuff. It's not celebrity death match, or survival of the fittest. My favourite band is Queen, but not all of their output is better than everyone else's. If you put all of Queens songs up against the vast ocean of other songs, you'll find that many Queen songs are trumped. But as a package, nothing beats Queen. So if someone prefers another artists song over, say "don't try suicide" you can't just say they're not a queen fan. That's moronic. |
| Star* 13.08.2018 16:48 |
skyeTV what i am getting here is that Vocal Harmony said "There is better bands than Queen " now to me that sounds like he does not have any faith in Queen whatsoever and the fool claims to be in the music industry which going by today's trash in the charts makes me wonder if he is a computer or real person Mmmmmmmm |
| SkyeTV 13.08.2018 17:03 |
happystar wrote: skyeTV what i am getting here is that Vocal Harmony said "There is better bands than Queen " now to me that sounds like he does not have any faith in Queen whatsoever and the fool claims to be in the music industry which going by today's trash in the charts makes me wonder if he is a computer or real person MmmmmmmmThat's his opinion, you can be a fan of a band and be a fan of other bands too. Queen don't have to be his favourite for him to be a Queen fan. You don't have to pick a band and that's that, you can be a fan of as many artists as you like, it's not a competition where winner takes all. What don't you get about this? |
| SkyeTV 13.08.2018 17:05 |
For example, I love the Beatles, but Queen are my favourites. Does this mean I'm not really a Beatles fan? Only in your world would that be a real argument, it's just preposterous. |
| Star* 13.08.2018 17:20 |
It depends how much you love the group. For someone to use a site like vocal harmony and then say "oh there is better bands than Queen " is just ridiculous. Why bother been on Queenzone if he thinks other bands are better? |
| SkyeTV 13.08.2018 17:56 |
Because Queen don't have to be your favourite band for you to be a fan of them, or for you to want to discuss them, or for you to want to collect their stuff. Again, what is it you're missing here? |
| Star* 13.08.2018 18:36 |
One would have thought if you get the need to collect stuff on a certain band then you are a fan lol |
| fras444 13.08.2018 20:45 |
I am a queen fanatic to say the very least... Hell John Deacon is my fav member to the point where i juge another band on the scale of how does the bassist compare to Johns... which says alot!!!! it's my default band I go to if I want to hear almost every genre from one group. BUT.... Through Queen, it's helped me to appreciate all the other great bands out there to the point where... YIP...... I'm a fan almost fanatic of Metallica, Megadeth, Floyd, Led Zep, AC/DC, Maiden... even soloist such as Stevie Vai Jason Becker and Marty Friedman (outside of Megadeath) When I listen to... especially younger bands I hear the 'QUEEN influence they mention... When I listen to Metallica I hear Queen hell .. not only did Metallica cover stone cold crazy they even stole/borrowed the rift from Great King Rat and used it for one of their first songs they ever wrote .. Hit the Lights or is it The four Horsemen ... GNR, well Axles love for WII is evaelent all over his songs on use your illusion I II Iron Maiden, I can clearly hear the supposedly John Deacon inspired bass runs from Steve Harris all over their songs.... Queen is my band but all of these other bands are just as good |
| fras444 13.08.2018 20:47 |
^* Alxes love for QII...... |
| SkyeTV 14.08.2018 01:00 |
Happystar, you still don't get it. I collect Beatles stuff, but Queen are my favourite. You can be a fan of someone but still like someone else better. |
| Vocal harmony 14.08.2018 09:37 |
happystar wrote: Vocal Harmony Do not wiggle out of saying what you said which was "There is better performers than Queen out there and with better albums" You cannot deny you said that. Any Queen fan would not say anything as insulting as that. You are not a Queen fan and your attitude towards the band stinks. You are in the music business so you say so probably you are a gutter press journalist by the way you insult everyone on here, think your head and shoulders above everybody else on here with your smart arsed answers eh? Well in my opinion you are no Queen fan so go and find your "better artists than Queen then".I'm wriggling out of nothing. I, and another member turned your argument around. YOU stated that because The Game sold so well it was an indication of how good Queen were. THAT IS WHAT YOU SAID. On that basis it was pointed out to you that two (lesser musical acts) were obviously better than Queen because they had sold more than that album. I agreed with the first coment and went on to say, BASED ON YOUR ARGUMENT there were many others who were better than Queen. I also pointed out to you, in my post, that you seemed to lack the ability to talk about musical content verses other artists when discussing this album, basing your reasoning on sales. I did not say in any part of my post that I believe Queen to be inferior to anyone else. YOU CHOSE TO TAKE MY COMMENT OUT OF CONTEXT AND POST SOMETHING WHICH CLAIMED I SAID SOMETHING I DID'NT. Your other comment about "gutter press". You're obviously very confused as you seem to be under the miss guided view that the gutter press are somehow employed by the live music industry. |
| Star* 14.08.2018 10:11 |
VH Sorry but you DID say " Plenty of acts have made better albums and ARE better performers" Don't deny that because its on here . You are very obnoxious when it comes to admitting that you are wrong. Still do not believe you are a Queen fan at all, your just a snoop on here. |
| Star* 14.08.2018 10:14 |
EVERYONE LOOK AT PAGE 5 ON THIS THREAD AND SEE WHAT "VOCAL HARMONY" SAID. " PLENTY OF ACTS HAVE HAD BETTER ALBUMS AND ARE BETTER PERFORMERS" SO BASICALLY VOCAL HARMONY HAS DOWNGRADED QUEEN! DISGUSTING FROM A PERSON WHO LIKES TO THINK HE IS RIGHT 100% OF THE TIME WHICH IS JUST SHEER BLOODY ARROGANCE. |
| Vocal harmony 14.08.2018 10:26 |
happystar wrote: EVERYONE LOOK AT PAGE 5 ON THIS THREAD AND SEE WHAT "VOCAL HARMONY" SAID. " PLENTY OF ACTS HAVE HAD BETTER ALBUMS AND ARE BETTER PERFORMERS" SO BASICALLY VOCAL HARMONY HAS DOWNGRADED QUEEN! DISGUSTING FROM A PERSON WHO LIKES TO THINK HE IS RIGHT 100% OF THE TIME WHICH IS JUST SHEER BLOODY ARROGANCE.Quote the whole line if you're going to quote. As I said before don't miss quote, and put things totally out of context. . . Anyone reading this, please go back to page 5 and read the whole thing. This guy is either a liar or an idiot judging by what he is claiming. |
| Star* 14.08.2018 10:55 |
VOCAL HARMONY I do not have to justify my comments to anyone as shallow and arrogant as you. Everyone can go to page 5 of this thread and see the evidence crystal clear what you said. Save you threats by sending me personal messages because you are a cunt. |
| Vocal harmony 14.08.2018 11:01 |
happystar wrote: VOCAL HARMONY I do not have to justify my comments to anyone as shallow and arrogant as you. Everyone can go to page 5 of this thread and see the evidence crystal clear what you said. Save you threats by sending me personal messages because you are a cunt.So you've used that same insult again. You're so well educated, aren't you. The PM I sent you was not a threat in anyway. It was simply asking you to re tract the insult. But you chose to repeat in this thread instead . You no longer have until four pm to cast yourself in a better light, you used your chance by repeating the insult. If you really believe my message to you was a threat, re post it here for every member to clearly see. Meanwhile I will go ahead and contact the site administration. |
| Star* 14.08.2018 11:43 |
Listen Mr arrogant i do not have to justify myself to you or anyone on here, and i wont be doing anything you say. Who the hell do you think you are making demands on here? You always sabotage my threads because you want a good old scrap, and no one up to now is as nasty as you on here. I have had some sensible people discuss the topic of my thread with dignity and then you come on and start with faffing on other sales. The thread was not about sales but what Queen album people prefer in the 80s, so stick to the topic or do not participate . |
| Vocal harmony 14.08.2018 11:56 |
happystar wrote: Those songs that you mention are not as good as anything from The Game album. The sales of The Game album proves that one. To appreciate decent Queen tunes you must have good taste in music dears !Oh really, are you sure about that. . . . Rather than musical merit you seem to have judged The Game on sales. It wasn't me that brought the subject of sales into this thread! It wasn't only me who pointed the hole in your thinking on this. Your problem, not mine! |
| Star* 14.08.2018 12:52 |
VH I do not have any prob at all. But you seem to have a problem with me so that is your choice. We lock horns quite regular on here so you need to stop replying and save us both from the grief. End of discussion unless you want to argue about that as well? |
| Vocal harmony 14.08.2018 15:52 |
I commented on someone else's post. The problem was that you didn't agree with me. As usual it becomes an issue with you. So maybe you need to stop relying. Remember in a different thread I did just that, I didn't post anything for two weeks, but you carried on ranting and bringing my name up. Today, as before it reaches a point where you turn to hurling abuse, you've done it countless times to other members as well as me |
| SkyeTV 14.08.2018 17:46 |
Looks to me like Happystar has missed the point again or either that he's trolling us and knows exactly what he is doing. In case it's the former I can only say that VH's words do not imply that this is his actual opinion. He is merely using your logic. So if your logic assumes that albums sales show us something is the best, then what YOU are actually implying (not VH) is that some of Britney's and Beiber's offerings are better than Queen's "The Game" because they sold more. VH is merely pointing out the flaw in your argument, but you're twisting it and to be brutally honest, this thread is ridiculous because of it. His words are simply to show you up, he is in no way suggesting that some of the chart shite is ACTUALLY better than Queen. I think you actually have the capacity to see this and are just attempting to rile. |
| Star* 14.08.2018 17:56 |
Skyetv: Can i just point out that Vocal Harmony also said that there is better performers out there than Queen and that has nothing to do with "sales" as he keeps crowing on about! |
| paulosham 14.08.2018 20:31 |
Are we still talking about The Game? |
| bucsateflon 14.08.2018 21:39 |
the weakest |
| Thistle 14.08.2018 22:07 |
happystar wrote: Skyetv: Can i just point out that Vocal Harmony also said that there is better performers out there than Queen and that has nothing to do with "sales" as he keeps crowing on about!No, you can't point this out to anyone - and I'll tell you why! It's his OPINION and that doesn't make him ANY LESS of a Queen fan. Just stop being such a sycophant and get on with your life. I've said it before to you on other threads, but here it is again - this is not a competition!!! Your arguments are really thin and you've now spilled the same old boring rhetoric over to this thread. Liking other bands means jack shit. You're making yourself look a halfwit. You need to stop this. |
| AlbaNo1 14.08.2018 22:11 |
The Game and News of the World are a bit more stripped down in sound and seem most suited musically to the tastes of the US rock market hence they are the best selling of Queens discography there. To me this indicates the US don’t really love the key characteristics of Queen , the multi layered harmonies , guitar orchestration and occasional eccentricity . It is a fine album though. |
| Thistle 14.08.2018 22:19 |
The Game is a great album, I love it. I agree totally with your comment about the US. If happystar could argue like that, it would be great - but as always, the best he can muster is "Uh. Queen Good. Uh" and "Uh. You no fan if you like someone else. Uh". Proper caveman stuff. I wish he'd just stop it to be honest. |
| *goodco* 15.08.2018 03:06 |
The Game was the least 'average' album of their releases in the 80s. It had hits, but was lacking a couple of songs (or lengthier songs) to flesh it out to make it a really good album. All of the rest of their offerings that decade were way below average compared to their glory years. Actually, the rest were just simply weak, but with a handful of 'they nailed it' tracks. Van Hagar and Queensryche put out better, stronger, 'punchier', more fleshed out albums than Queen during that time. It always irritated me when I'd read comments around the AKOM period that 'rock' wasn't selling. Do it right, and it will sell. During their 'lazy' period, considering all that went into 'The Miracle' and 'Innuendo'....the used leftovers for 'Made In Heaven', Brian's great solo LP, and the tons of demos that were made available....that lazy period provided a ton of brilliance that the masses didn't fully get a chance to enjoy. |
| dysan 15.08.2018 07:09 |
Yeah but Queen were always a 'pop' band. BM said himself early on the Killer Queen best encapsulated what they were about - not the heavy stuff. That was them doing their thing - they always had a need to make a job of the band and to do that they had to be, and continued to be, pop. And they did it exceptionally well! |
| cmsdrums 15.08.2018 09:40 |
*goodco* wrote: It always irritated me when I'd read comments around the AKOM period that 'rock' wasn't selling. Do it right, and it will sell. .Exactly - as examples across a wide range of the 'rock' spectrum, 'Slippery When Wet', 'Invisible Touch', 'The Final Countdown' and 'Master of Puppets' kinda prove that point. |
| Star* 15.08.2018 10:17 |
Thistleboy1980: I dont argue on here, "vocal harmony" does that and my discussions and threads are pretty decent after all everyone is debating the topic of MY thread. Yes his replies are his opinion but when he changes his mind as to what he said in past threads that makes him a hypocrite. I will repeat myself one last time Yes it is fine if other people have other favourite artists, i have but what i do not approve of is people slagging Queen off as a band like Vh when he said there are better artists out there than Queen. That is offensive to me as a 44 year old Queen fan. Hope you understand that because i am not repeating myself again. |
| rockchic65 15.08.2018 10:54 |
happystar wrote: I will repeat myself one last time Yes it is fine if other people have other favourite artists, i have but what i do not approve of is people slagging Queen off as a band like Vh when he said there are better artists out there than Queen. That is offensive to me as a 44 year old Queen fan. Hope you understand that because i am not repeating myself again.You said - Those songs that you mention are not as good as anything from The Game album. The sales of The Game album proves that one. cmsdrums said - Ah, so some of Justin Bieber and Britney Spears’ output is better than Queen then if it sold better than The Game? (meaning by the standards you (happy) are using to judge songs selling more means they are better. You said - That is an unfair comment because these days we have downloads and hype to get albums big sales. VH replied - No it isn't unfair. Britney Spears was selling albums way before downloads became a huge selling stream. Plenty of other acts have outsold The Game, not just Spears and Bieber. So as CMSDrums pointed out to you, judging things on the basis that you introduced to the discussion, plenty of acts have made better albums and are better performers. (Meaning that as I already stated, using sales as a barometer of talent would mean Bieber & Spears etc are better artists) Clearly not true and clearly what they were all trying to tell you using the irony of your comment. If you don't get it after this I give up. |
| Star* 15.08.2018 14:51 |
Rockchic disregarding the "sales" argument here Vocal Harmony also said there were better performing artists out there than Queen, that is utter rubbish. Have a go at him not me. |
| dysan 15.08.2018 15:46 |
Depends what you want. There are bands that are heavier, there are bands that are funnier, there are bands that can take you to a million different places that Queen can't. And sometimes I'd rather go there than where Queen would take me. |
| Thistle 15.08.2018 16:42 |
happystar wrote: Thistleboy1980: I dont argue on here, "vocal harmony" does that and my discussions and threads are pretty decent after all everyone is debating the topic of MY thread. Yes his replies are his opinion but when he changes his mind as to what he said in past threads that makes him a hypocrite. I will repeat myself one last time Yes it is fine if other people have other favourite artists, i have but what i do not approve of is people slagging Queen off as a band like Vh when he said there are better artists out there than Queen. That is offensive to me as a 44 year old Queen fan. Hope you understand that because i am not repeating myself again.Well that's an argument for a start lol. It's not that I don't understand what you're saying, I just don't agree with what you're saying. As far as I'm concerned, if you've gotten to the age of 44 and are "offended" that someone would prefer anothor band to Queen (which is not the same as not being a fan of Queen or "slagging" Queen off), then you've let a very dainty life and really need to get out and start living. Never in my life have I heard someone say they're "offended" at someone preferring other bands over Queen. |
| Thistle 15.08.2018 16:44 |
So please don't repeat yourself again, you're really beginning to look daft. And I mean that not as an insult because I'm really starting to worry about you. |
| Star* 15.08.2018 18:03 |
Thistleboy What is the point coming on to Queenzone if you are not a fully committed fan of the band? I think these kind of sites should only be for fans who think Queen are number one and the other half who are part time fans should not bother, better still charge a subscription and that way it will weed out the loonies like VH and others who put ridiculous posts up like " Runner has a micro penis" and you lot pick on me but the idiot who put that post up about Runner has had no backlash whatsoever. For your information i have a life and i am a very well balanced guy but its just a lot of people on here are immature and like playing judge and jury asking for evidence for this and that to cause arguments. The thread on here is only a discussion but a lot of people come on here with personal attacks at me just because someone started a row (vocal Harmony) Well for your info Mr Harmony has had lots of arguments on here over the years but he like to come across like mother theresa. |
| dysan 15.08.2018 20:25 |
Hold on - you said you've been a fan for 44 years, but here you say you're 44. So what age did you get into Queen? |
| SkyeTV 15.08.2018 21:28 |
Fully committed? You should be. |
| Saint Jiub 15.08.2018 23:32 |
Queenzone is a mostly unmoderated, uncensored website where criticism of Queen and Freddie is allowed ... Perhaps "happy" and "runner" should start a new echo chamber website called "Queenstepford.com" where any negative statements about pre-2000 Queen are immediately censored, but negative posts about post-2000 Queen are actively encouraged. |
| *goodco* 16.08.2018 02:35 |
SkyeTV wrote: Fully committed? You should be.I was so waiting for someone to toss those words back at him....... |
| Vocal harmony 16.08.2018 09:53 |
happystar wrote: Rockchic disregarding the "sales" argument here Vocal Harmony also said there were better performing artists out there than Queen, that is utter rubbish. Have a go at him not me.Better performing in sales terms you numbskull |
| Vocal harmony 16.08.2018 10:07 |
happystar wrote: Thistleboy1980: I dont argue on here, "vocal harmony" does that . . . . That is offensive to me as a 44 year old Queen fan. Hope you understand that because i am not repeating myself again.I'm sure you will as you always do. Anyway some simple maths. You claimed a while back that you saw Queen live in the 70's and 80's, like many of us have. You claimed the first gig you saw was Newcastle City Hall in 1979. Are you sure about that? You must have been five years old when you bought your first ticket and attended that show, you also went to Leeds when you were 8 years old. . . There's an argument for you to have. Of cours I do realise that mentally you are stuck between those two ages, but attending those gigs at that age? |
| Star* 16.08.2018 10:50 |
Vocal Harmony:: I find your posts pretty pathetic just like you are. As i said before i am not answering anymore of your shit questions and you can be a bitchy as you want but at the end of the day you will stay bitter and twisted, You are a vindictive nasty piece of shit and i hope karma catches up with you very very soon. |
| The Fairy King 16.08.2018 12:29 |
happystar wrote: I think these kind of sites should only be for fans who think Queen are number one and the other half who are part time fans should not bother,...Fascist. happystar wrote:.... the loonies like VH and others who put ridiculous posts up like " Runner has a micro penis" and you lot pick on me but the idiot who put that post up about Runner has had no backlash whatsoever.Now what does that tell you? Don't you think that your own attitude got you here? Same goes for runner. If you don't get the point, you are the problem. Think about it. |
| TomP63 16.08.2018 14:23 |
So for all these years I've been on the wrong Queen site, is it? Therefor I should delete my account, only true Queen fans gather here? Damn, last year I saw Walter Trout three times, what the hell, we made a selfie, i shook his hand, he gave me a hug. Also I saw Joe Bonamassa, he did not speak to me, but I noticed that when he is on tour, he sells Queen shirt, along with Stones shirt, so I am a bit on the safe side here. I grew up with Queen, or maybe the band grew up with me, could be either way. Saw them many, many times live and kicking. In my humble opinion, the best band around, but boy oh boy what did I wrong that they gave me My Baby Does Me, Break Free, Friends Will Be Friends and that lis with greatest flops is long. So yes I do like Queen, understatement, but the best thing I must do, can do is delete my account, as the band is not the band anymore as I grew up. Should I delete my account? Will I be a Happystar if I do? Well guys, call me stupid and paint me yellow. sacrasm off ;-) Tom |
| Star* 16.08.2018 14:32 |
Tom : You are entitled to do what you want on here but don't be like the rest on here and back stab Queen because in there heyday there were as you point out a powerful tour de force and not many bands could beat Queen on stage. Queen slaughtered everyone at Live Aid, and they blew Thin Lizzy off stage in 1977 and they remained incredible until Freddie passed away. Today i agree with you Queen are not Queen in any shape or form. Anyone that does support this drivel line up now has no taste and is no rock n roll dude. Personally i would delete your account on here because you get no sense out of the juvenile morons on here, they are a right shower. |
| Saint Jiub 16.08.2018 14:34 |
happystar ... a few questions for clarification: Have you been a queen fan for 44 years? Were you 5 years old when you saw your first Queen concert in 1979? Are you age 44? If not, how old are you? Can post a copy of your birth certificate? |
| Saint Jiub 16.08.2018 14:38 |
happystar wrote: Tom : Personally i would delete your account on here because you get no sense out of the juvenile morons on here, they are a right shower.happystar - Please follow your own advice and delete your account. |
| Thistle 16.08.2018 17:36 |
Tom was being sarcastic, but here you are agreeing with him. You really are one big parody of yourself, aren't you? |
| Star* 16.08.2018 21:23 |
Thistleboy Everyone is sarcastic on here but you do not know me so please do not assume you do. |
| Thistle 17.08.2018 00:02 |
I never claimed to know you, and never intimated that I thought I might, so that response is just strange. |
| Star* 17.08.2018 09:22 |
Thistleboy You claim that i am a parody of myself and as i just stated you do not know me but your like the rest of the sheep on here making biased comments. Lets get back on track with this thread Queen's Greatest 1980s album The Game ! |
| Star* 17.08.2018 09:22 |
Thistleboy You claim that i am a parody of myself and as i just stated you do not know me but your like the rest of the sheep on here making biased comments. Lets get back on track with this thread Queen's Greatest 1980s album The Game ! |
| Vocal harmony 17.08.2018 09:27 |
happystar wrote: Vocal Harmony:: I find your posts pretty pathetic just like you are. As i said before i am not answering anymore of your shit questions and you can be a bitchy as you want but at the end of the day you will stay bitter and twisted, You are a vindictive nasty piece of shit and i hope karma catches up with you very very soon.So if you don't answer you do your usual,which you've done here, and start name calling. Obviously it makes you feel big and some kind of tough guy. You're just an insulting little dweeb. You can't hold a conversation on a discussion forum without accusing people of not playing by your rules when someone points something out to you that you don't agree with. On another thread a few weeks ago, when I new member was promoting a radio show you had to steam in with your view of the current band/tour. You can't leave subjects in the area they belong. Your views, as you've told people in the past are as valid as anyone else's as long as other people agree with you, if they don't you have the nerve to tell people to leave the forum. Why the fuck should we. Most people have been here longer than you, nearly all have not had posts deleted because of the foul nature of their content. And verity view have had to change their name because they were removed from the site in the past Gerry. Your insults towards the female members, on the Q+AL section, are unbelievable. You obviously don't get out much because if you did and you talked to people in "the real world" like that you'd spend a lot if your life in intensive care So here's a suggestion, take your mindless opinions, your insults and abuse, wrap them in barbed wire and stick them up your shit box and fuck off |
| Star* 17.08.2018 09:28 |
Vocal Harmony Get back on your wing before security catches you ! |
| Star* 17.08.2018 09:31 |
Vocal Harmony There you are using foul language now who's not whiter than white eh ? You have just proved to every one what a sad idiotic fuck wit you really are. sad sad cunt. |
| Vocal harmony 17.08.2018 10:08 |
Re read every post you've posted, then re read your last post. If you've got any intelligence you might then begin to piece together what my post and language is in response too. I somehow even then don't think you have the capability to make the pieces fit. |
| The Fairy King 17.08.2018 10:33 |
Vocal harmony wrote:I concur.happystar wrote: Vocal Harmony:: I find your posts pretty pathetic just like you are. As i said before i am not answering anymore of your shit questions and you can be a bitchy as you want but at the end of the day you will stay bitter and twisted, You are a vindictive nasty piece of shit and i hope karma catches up with you very very soon.So if you don't answer you do your usual,which you've done here, and start name calling. Obviously it makes you feel big and some kind of tough guy. You're just an insulting little dweeb. You can't hold a conversation on a discussion forum without accusing people of not playing by your rules when someone points something out to you that you don't agree with. On another thread a few weeks ago, when I new member was promoting a radio show you had to steam in with your view of the current band/tour. You can't leave subjects in the area they belong. Your views, as you've told people in the past are as valid as anyone else's as long as other people agree with you, if they don't you have the nerve to tell people to leave the forum. Why the fuck should we. Most people have been here longer than you, nearly all have not had posts deleted because of the foul nature of their content. And verity view have had to change their name because they were removed from the site in the past Gerry. Your insults towards the female members, on the Q+AL section, are unbelievable. You obviously don't get out much because if you did and you talked to people in "the real world" like that you'd spend a lot if your life in intensive care So here's a suggestion, take your mindless opinions, your insults and abuse, wrap them in barbed wire and stick them up your shit box and fuck off |
| Vocal harmony 17.08.2018 10:59 |
^^^^ I thank you sir ;) |
| Thistle 17.08.2018 13:52 |
happystar wrote: Thistleboy You claim that i am a parody of myself and as i just stated you do not know me but your like the rest of the sheep on here making biased comments. Lets get back on track with this thread Queen's Greatest 1980s album The Game !I'm talking about your persona on here. I don't know you in real life and don't think I'd really want to tbh, but I'm talking about your persona here. It's like a parody. I don't know what is difficult to grasp about this. As for "biased" - how on earth does that even make sense? Biased in favour of what? Your posts - each and every one of them - is biased towards Queen. You do not accept any critcisim of them at all. Yes, I get this is "Queenzone" - but that doesn't mean what YOU WANT it to mean. It's not "sycophant zone". It's a place to debate the good, the bad and the downright ugly about the band. Every nook and cranny from the sublime to the ridiculous. When you say something's great, without debating it's merit, and then someone disagrees, your base point is to immediately tell them they're not a "true" or "real" fan. You're a buffoon of the highest order, without the ability to have reasoned debate. Either that, you're a troll and the character really, truly is a parody, designed solely to get a rise out of people. I agree with VH, btw. |
| Star* 17.08.2018 15:28 |
Thistleboy First of all i would not like to know you either because any friend of Vocal Harmony is NO friend of mine. Secondly of course i am biased towards Queen 1971 - 1991 any ardent purist Queen fan would be, but i have been critical towards Queen+ which many have on here. Why should i debate that something is great i am not in the witness box in court but the way you lot go on you think i was. You make a picture up of me in your head and that sticks, oh and by the way "Vocal Harmony" has been on this site for years arguing and causing fights so he is no angel so do not point the finger at me matey. I am not a troll but a true down to earth Queen fan 44 years and a member of Queen's Fan Club. |
| *goodco* 17.08.2018 17:12 |
If it wasn't time before....it is time now.......please ignore the troll. We have had our time, our fun, our amusement with this cellar dweller. The less said towards him/her/it ....the better. Sadly, Richard and YV, in spite of requests over this year, will not get rid of Gerry. Ignore the troll. |
| Star* 17.08.2018 20:09 |
Goodco Excuse me i am not a troll. I have every fucking right to be here you idiot. i will be here for a long time to come so get used to it sucker. |
| mooghead 17.08.2018 20:37 |
How has this got to 8 pages? |
| Star* 17.08.2018 21:11 |
Mooghead Because that twat vocal harmony yet again sabotaged my thread, causing trouble. i may report the creep. |
| Thistle 17.08.2018 22:19 |
happystar wrote: Thistleboy First of all i would not like to know you either because any friend of Vocal Harmony is NO friend of mine. Secondly of course i am biased towards Queen 1971 - 1991 any ardent purist Queen fan would be, but i have been critical towards Queen+ which many have on here. Why should i debate that something is great i am not in the witness box in court but the way you lot go on you think i was. You make a picture up of me in your head and that sticks, oh and by the way "Vocal Harmony" has been on this site for years arguing and causing fights so he is no angel so do not point the finger at me matey. I am not a troll but a true down to earth Queen fan 44 years and a member of Queen's Fan Club.1 - I don't know VH in real life either. 2 - I know you're an ardent fan. But other ardent fans like to talk about ALL things Queen - even the shit stuff - and YOU don't like that. Again, it's not "sycophant zone". 3 - If you think debate equals "witness box", you've no idea what debate means. But that is no surprise. 4 - VH might have caused arguments elsewhere. That is irrelevant. If you think that because one does it then it's alright for you to, it's YOU who's the sheep. 5 - I'm not pointing any finger at you. I'm debating a point with you, and YOU can't understand what it is. 6 - You can't make up your mind if you're 44, or have been a fan for 44 years. Either way, it doesn't matter. So what? You need to stop this. If people want to criticise Queen, that's up to them. If they want to talk about AL (I don't, but to each their own) then they can. If you don't like it, don't tell them to fuck off - you fuck off. If you don't want to do the latter, then stay clear of their discussions, in teh same fashion you'd like them to stay clear of yours. You'll soon see you're talking to yourself and everyone else is just getting on with it. Easy, isn't it? |
| Star* 18.08.2018 06:58 |
Thistleboy : From what you have said there i would not be surprised if you are Vocal Harmony in another user name. You sound so self righteous that you have your head up your arse, Who the hell do you think you are then? You are arrogant self opinionated and full of yourself matey. I do not take orders from you or anyone else on here, i am my own man and i will stay that way. You make everything so complicated wanting to know evidence, debate you are Vocal Harmony 100%. I do not come on here to be interrogated i come on here to talk all things Queen which you do not do, so that makes you a hypocrite straight away. So you tell me to stop criticising but others are welcome to do it, is that it then? Double standards i would say. You seem to be forgetting this is MY thread i opened up this discussion then Vocal Harmony wrecked it once again, has that registered in your thick head? We are supposed to be having a general friendly discussion about Queens best 80s album so if that is too complicated for your half brain cell then get lost. |
| Thistle 18.08.2018 11:06 |
happystar wrote: Thistleboy : From what you have said there i would not be surprised if you are Vocal Harmony in another user name. You sound so self righteous that you have your head up your arse, Who the hell do you think you are then? You are arrogant self opinionated and full of yourself matey. I do not take orders from you or anyone else on here, i am my own man and i will stay that way. You make everything so complicated wanting to know evidence, debate you are Vocal Harmony 100%. I do not come on here to be interrogated i come on here to talk all things Queen which you do not do, so that makes you a hypocrite straight away. So you tell me to stop criticising but others are welcome to do it, is that it then? Double standards i would say. You seem to be forgetting this is MY thread i opened up this discussion then Vocal Harmony wrecked it once again, has that registered in your thick head? We are supposed to be having a general friendly discussion about Queens best 80s album so if that is too complicated for your half brain cell then get lost.Another idiotic response that is irrelevant to anything taht's been said. "doh, I happystar. I thick". Utter fud. |
| Star* 18.08.2018 11:59 |
Thistleprick; i do not have time for knob heads like you so do not waste your brain cell replying you thick twat. |
| Thistle 18.08.2018 14:45 |
I'm a thick twat? I'm not the retard who makes inane posts and then whinges like a baboon when people disagree. As for not replying, I'll do what I want you stupid cunt. I might have my enemies on here but I have far more allies and respect than you. You're the lowest of the low, you pick on women with vile comments and you're not so brave with the guys. Even when you try you just look like a keyboard warrior. But you wouldn't have the audicity to say anything to my face because I'd knock fuck out of you. Pathetic wee dingbat. Heed your own words. |
| Vocal harmony 18.08.2018 15:32 |
happystar you seem to be mining an infinite seam of stupidity which will obviously keep you supplied for as long as you see fit to continue posting. Again you've come up against someone with superior intellect, found yourself wanting, knee deep in the shit and bile you live in, unable to counter what is said so you hurl more abusive comments. Again you've proved yourself, in the eyes of so many on here, to be a fool of the highest order. Well done! |
| Star* 18.08.2018 17:29 |
Vocal Harmony And your the idiot that keeps replying so bingo ! lol Grow a pair mate cos you live a sad life. |
| MisterCosmicc 19.08.2018 04:59 |
Fools. I'll reply again. Hot Space is the best album Queen did in the 80's. They really dedicated themselves to the tracks on it. Listen to Hot Space closely, it's as if any of the songs could have been a single. Can't say the same for any other album. It may not be up to your standards, but it's as if they wrote every song to be a possible single. Commercial potential. I'll never get tired of Hot Space. Sail Away Sweet Sister... now I know Brian doesn't have a sister, but if he had, I'd wonder why he'd be writing songs about her instead of a mistress. Don't Try Suicide. Would have been a great B-side, but definitely not for an album. Coming Soon and Rock It... needed Freddie on full leads. Dragon Attack is the hard rock song released by Queen that I'm most disappointed in. Dragon? Please, 'Dragon' and 'Sister' are two words that shouldn't have made it into Queen's lyrics. The Works is great. 'Keep Passing The Open Windows' doesn't do anything for me, however. I really think 'Let Me In Your Heart Again' and 'Man Made Paradise' should have made it onto that album. A Kind Of Magic is great. Needed another track. I get embarrassed if I'm playing Queen around a friend and 'One Year Of Love' comes on. I know few die-hard Queen fans in my personal life, but I do know people who love the A Kind Of Magic album due to Highlander, they put a cult status on that album! The Miracle is great. Needed 'My Life Has Been Saved' and 'Too Much Love Will Kill You' on it. Queen always had a song that you could get drunk and relate to in terms of a break-up, but... 'The Miracle' didn't feature one. (If the 90's was discussed, I'd say the same about Innuendo). |
| Star* 19.08.2018 08:21 |
Mistercosmicc : If i had said all that then Vocal Harmony would have slagged me off something rotten. He seems to only dismiss my comments especially since "Hot Space" is a great Queen album but it was Queen on a different angle. "The Game" though is far superior to Hot Space and even the excellent "The Works". For me "The Game" has far more tasty tracks on it and many hits. |
| Vocal harmony 19.08.2018 12:29 |
Where have I dismissed any comments about Hot Space. You are inventing an argument yet again. . In the past I've actually said I think Hot Space is better than The Works, based on the simple reason the band were still willing to experiment and travel a path least travelled (by them). The Works seems to me, despite having "some" good songs, to be the result of a lot of talking within the band and Jim Beach as to what would most sound like Queen. The singles stand alone as great songs, and worked brilliantly, but as an album I just don't think it's as good as the previous two (not counting Flash) and certainly not as good as the golden 70's period. Am I right, of course not. No more than any one else, this is music (art) and everyone has views or in this case hears something different As far as rubbishing your posts happystar I wouldn't if they contained something other than this song/album great, Freddie is brilliant and look how many it sold. At least MisterCosmicc is able to explain some of his thinking behind what he is saying. |
| Star* 19.08.2018 12:59 |
Vocal Harmony i dont come on here writing long pieces i am not "Record Mirror" i just like people to know what i like and what i do not like, i keep it simple and as honest as i can. I am not starting an argument cos your the expert at that. You did mock me a few years back taking the piss telling everyone Hot Space was in my top 5 Queen albums, you do have a short memory. |
| Chopin1995 19.08.2018 14:27 |
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| Chopin1995 19.08.2018 14:28 |
happystar wrote: Because that twat vocal harmony yet again sabotaged my thread, causing trouble. i may report the creep. happystar wrote: You seem to be forgetting this is MY thread i opened up this discussion then Vocal Harmony wrecked it once again, has that registered in your thick head? happystar wrote: Vocal Harmony. I am not starting an argument cos your the expert at that.Sorry happystar but it was you who started an argument on this thread. Look at the first 2 pages. Nothing was wrong. Vocal Harmony posted 2 times on those pages and both times it was on the topic. You even managed to respond to that in a civilized manner. Then look at the top of page 3. Let me quote you: happystar wrote: Hey that is one poke in the eye for Vocal Harmony on here then yipppppppppppppppppppppppppe someone actually agrees with me ! VH "i am in the music industry blah blah blah so what ....... you still have terrible tastes.......You basically sabotaged 'your own thread'. |
| Star* 19.08.2018 14:51 |
No vocal harmony sabotages every ones threads . My thread was going fine until he showed up like the rat he is. |
| Thistle 19.08.2018 16:07 |
What? Even though Chopin has given concrete evidence that it was you who started the shit? You really are a simpleton. Here's something else you've tripped yourself up on - not long ago, you claimed you were a new user after suggestions you might be Gerry. Now you've told VH that he picked on you years ago over Hot Space. How can that be if you're a "new user"? This is why you feel like you're on trial. You lie, trip yourself up, and then people call you out on it. You can't defend yourself because you can clearly see you've tripped yourself up. Utter twerp. And you can call me Thistleprick all you want. If that's the most creative you can be, you're not very bright. But I've already pointed that out. |
| Gregsynth 19.08.2018 16:38 |
I love Thistleboy1980. Vocal Harmony is also cool. |
| Thistle 19.08.2018 17:03 |
Why thank you sir! lol :) Greg is also one of the decent guys. Knows what he's talking about ;) |
| Star* 19.08.2018 19:04 |
Thistleknob listen to me i took a break from this loony site and came back as a new member, is that not easy enough for your depleted brain cell? call me all you want defend your pals on here i am not phased by it all. If you think VH is cool then great, but personally i hate the twat. He has proved he is manipulative, obnoxious, arrogant, conservative twit. Everyone on here is always going on about debates and evidence, what a bunch of bully boys you all are. I am a friendly town guy who just happens to appreciate Queen more than most on this site and i get slated for it. Yes i think Freddie is the greatest rock star ever, he is untouchable but many knobs on here like vocal want evidence why i say that. Nothing to do with that nosy bugger. I do not come on here to be interigated or bullied but as i have seen over the year people have been bullied quite severely and left the site, well you wont get rid of me, i stand my ground and i give as good i get , so do you stuff and you will get an avalanche of crap back. |
| Thistle 19.08.2018 19:40 |
happystar wrote: Thistleknob listen to me i took a break from this loony site and came back as a new member, is that not easy enough for your depleted brain cell? call me all you want defend your pals on here i am not phased by it all. If you think VH is cool then great, but personally i hate the twat. He has proved he is manipulative, obnoxious, arrogant, conservative twit. Everyone on here is always going on about debates and evidence, what a bunch of bully boys you all are. I am a friendly town guy who just happens to appreciate Queen more than most on this site and i get slated for it. Yes i think Freddie is the greatest rock star ever, he is untouchable but many knobs on here like vocal want evidence why i say that. Nothing to do with that nosy bugger. I do not come on here to be interigated or bullied but as i have seen over the year people have been bullied quite severely and left the site, well you wont get rid of me, i stand my ground and i give as good i get , so do you stuff and you will get an avalanche of crap back. |
| Thistle 19.08.2018 19:40 |
happystar wrote: Thistleknob listen to me i took a break from this loony site and came back as a new member, is that not easy enough for your depleted brain cell? call me all you want defend your pals on here i am not phased by it all. If you think VH is cool then great, but personally i hate the twat. He has proved he is manipulative, obnoxious, arrogant, conservative twit. Everyone on here is always going on about debates and evidence, what a bunch of bully boys you all are. I am a friendly town guy who just happens to appreciate Queen more than most on this site and i get slated for it. Yes i think Freddie is the greatest rock star ever, he is untouchable but many knobs on here like vocal want evidence why i say that. Nothing to do with that nosy bugger. I do not come on here to be interigated or bullied but as i have seen over the year people have been bullied quite severely and left the site, well you wont get rid of me, i stand my ground and i give as good i get , so do you stuff and you will get an avalanche of crap back. |
| Thistle 19.08.2018 19:42 |
1 - "Thistleknob" now? Wow. I thought your patter couldn't get worse (or make you look any more thick) after "Thistleprick", but you've managed to succeed. 2 - You "took a break" and came back as a "new user"? That's not what you said before, dingbat. The reality is you had your account deleted before and now you're back more retarded than before. They've obviously increased the dosage of your meds, you're almost at veg level now. Anyway, caught out again. Another lie. I'm obviously not the one with the "depleted braincell". 3 - Again, you don't know what "debate" means. It's a sophistacted part of a conversation where people seek clarity on something you've said, and an opportunity for them to offer opposing views. But you don't want opposing views, and revert to insults instead. THAT IS BULLYING. Also, the vile comments you made towards women in the Q+AL section, because they don't match you sycophantic views, is bullying. You are the common denominator. Asking you to elaborate on an opinion, or something you've passed as fact is NOT bullying. See the difference? 4 - You appreciate Queen more than anyone on this site? No you don't. Not if you don't know the basics and pass off ill-gotten views as "fact". 5 - No one is interrogating you. It's a discussion forum. If you offer up an opinion or fact that is contrary to reality, you'll get called out on it. That's what happens in discussions. 6 - I don't want to get rid of you. But you have told lots of people to fuck off and delete their account. If you want treated with respect, you have to give it. If you don't want to be told to fuck off, don't tell people to fuck off. Practice what you preach. |
| Saint Jiub 19.08.2018 20:48 |
happystar wrote: you have to lower the tone with your stupidity to get a cheap laugh. If you cant post something sensible then f*ck off my thread. if you thought that was funny then you are as evil as the prat that wrote it in the first place. Pleased you understand which section you belong in. This thread is for Queen fans who actually appreciate the four man talent of the real Queen group. The Game album is probably too rich for your ears now anyway if you are all aloof with Adam Lambert and his plastic singing. Always said there is a load of knob heads on this site who do not appreciate Queen You are obviously not popular on here either are you You are not a Queen fan and your attitude towards the band stinks. You are in the music business so you say so probably you are a gutter press journalist i can handle myself on here with all the silly people who have no respect for Freddie and Queen they would rather give the respect to the Queen + crap which is utter dross. Still do not believe you are a Queen fan at all, your just a snoop on here. I do not have to justify my comments to anyone as shallow and arrogant as you. you are a cunt. What is the point coming on to Queenzone if you are not a fully committed fan of the band? Anyone that does support this drivel line up now has no taste and is no rock n roll dude. Personally i would delete your account on here because you get no sense out of the juvenile morons on here, they are a right shower. your like the rest of the sheep on here making biased comments. Get back on your wing before security catches you ! You have just proved to every one what a sad idiotic fuck wit you really are. sad sad cunt. I have every fucking right to be here you idiot. you sound so self righteous that you have your head up your arse, Who the hell do you think you are then? You are arrogant self opinionated and full of yourself matey. if that is too complicated for your half brain cell then get lost. i do not have time for knob heads like you so do not waste your brain cell replying you thick twat. Grow a pair mate cos you live a sad life. |
| Thistle 19.08.2018 20:52 |
Oh come on, he didn't say all that. A big boy did it and ran away. |
| Sealion 19.08.2018 20:58 |
I know, who said all that. We all know. And it‘s much worse in another section of this forum. @happystar You said, YOU are a friendly town guy? Ask yourself, why nobody here has noted that... About your „problems“ with VH: He was the first to call you out for your behavior in the Q+ section. And I‘m glad, that he -as a longtime member - did. Unfortunately most members on here accept the bullying and trolling going on there (or don’t know about it). So thanks VH! |
| paulosham 19.08.2018 22:10 |
I particularly like Dragon Attack, there's a loose feel to the band that still sounds so fresh to me even after listening to it for 30+ years.The same goes for Coming Soon. that has one of my favourite solos, short but sweet. |
| Thistle 19.08.2018 22:57 |
Coming Soon is a great track, one of my favourites on the album. Dragon Attack is kinda meh for me, but love the rest of "The Game" and it's always easily in my top 5 Queen albums. |
| Star* 20.08.2018 06:41 |
Thistleboy You are a cheeky twat you come on here slagging me off then you have the cheek to carry on chatting about the topic of this thread. Double standards mate. You are two faced and like the rest of the swarm on here. |
| Star* 20.08.2018 06:44 |
Saint Jiub Just what the hell is your problem then? You like the others on here just like to twist the knife, if you cannot find any productive to spend your time on then get help or take your rant to Twitter. |
| dysan 20.08.2018 06:54 |
Just an observation about 'Party' being lazy. 'Dragon Attack' is probably the laziest song Queen had done until that point - a rhythm section loop repeated and Brian making a song out of it. The lyrics too. Makes 'Party' sound like ... I was going to say Iolanthe, but I got grief last time I mentioned Gilbert & Sullivan :D Doesn't mean I don't like it of course. Just saying. |
| Martin Packer 20.08.2018 07:17 |
BTW, SASS is not literally about a sister. It's clear in the subtitle. |
| dysan 20.08.2018 07:20 |
Does iTunes have subtitles? |
| dysan 20.08.2018 07:23 |
Also, 'Dragon Attack' was the coolest song title I'd ever seen as a kid. I imagined all sorts of Orge Battle riffing and fairy tale lyrics. #disappointed I wonder if it stemmed from the 'Attack' ideas in Flash Gordon. |
| dysan 20.08.2018 07:24 |
Great to see the love for Coming Soon here too. A very very cool track |
| Star* 20.08.2018 07:55 |
Dysan Dragon Attack is a great Queen rock song and the guitar work is so superior to the dross of "Party" For me i felt Queen had lost there direction on The Miracle album and although they had trashed such a lot of material for that album they may have binned some classics. |
| Star* 20.08.2018 07:57 |
Martin Packer "Sail Away Sweet Sister" as Brian put it was dedicated to the sister that he never had ! |
| dysan 20.08.2018 08:43 |
RE Dragon Attack: In your opinion. YOu should probably say that more rather than make people think their opinion is secondary to your. For the record, the guitar solo on Party ROCKS. IMO, of course. |
| Star* 20.08.2018 12:12 |
Dysan: If people treat me like a fool i will oblige and be the fool lol |
| Thistle 20.08.2018 14:04 |
Oh just shut the fuck up Happystar, you proper fucking retard. You've spouted insults, you got some back. Deal with it. As for talking about the subject, my reply was to Paulosham and if I want to reply, I fucking will. Get that into your smack addled, brain-damaged head, you utter fucking bellend. If you're going to use phrases like "double standards" (which it isn't) and "two faced" (which it isn't) at least learn what they mean. Does your carer know you're still on here? |
| Star* 20.08.2018 14:51 |
Thistleboy thanks for that post i can now report you to the head of site cheers for that ! |
| Thistle 20.08.2018 14:59 |
Ooohhh, I'm quaking in my boots. Whilst you're "reporting" me, maybe the "head of the site" will be interested in seeing YOUR posts? I've never once had a post deleted here - you've had several. Get that into your junkie head. |
| Star* 20.08.2018 15:05 |
Thistleboy were on earth did you get the impression i take drugs? That is really funny. Just because you say i have had posts deleted does not justify your behaviour towards me. Now calm down and have a tablet little boy. |
| Thistle 20.08.2018 15:17 |
I'm calm, don't you worry. I'm having a great time laughing at you, moron. |
| Vocal harmony 20.08.2018 19:33 |
happystar wrote: Thistleboy thanks for that post i can now report you to the head of site cheers for that !After the insults you've posted on this and other threads, I would air the opinion that Thistleboy was being a little conservative in his descriptive view. |
| Star* 20.08.2018 19:35 |
Well lets get back on track yeah and stop all this bickering. |
| Thistle 20.08.2018 19:58 |
Okay bruv ;) |
| yogadull 01.02.2019 03:29 |
this is their best selling studio album in the US, i really love it, thanks run 3 unblocked stephen curry wallpaper |
| dysan 01.02.2019 08:40 |
Ah I see now why we get blank pages at the end of threads. The sheer volume of post deletions on this one is staggering. |
| cobohall 01.02.2019 17:05 |
Sorry to change back to the original topic, but I recall the day The Game was released, Went down to my local record store, called Harmony House, and bought it. The clerk looked over the album and said, "This one is never gonna sell, they released the single way too long ago," It was their greatest of the 80's. |
| Russian Headlong 2 01.02.2019 17:34 |
The Works. Queen became too eclectic in the 80s not enough heavy rock. |
| cobohall 01.02.2019 19:02 |
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| yogadull 11.03.2019 03:37 |
great album forever not only in 80s instagram video downloader |
| Day dop 15.03.2019 07:25 |
The Game and The Works are my favourite Queen 80s albums. Both sound great on the original UK vinyl too. The Works never sounded anywhere near as good on CD or any vinyl reissues. |
| dysan 15.03.2019 08:19 |
Russian Headlong 2 wrote: The Works. Queen became too eclectic in the 80s not enough heavy rock.I dunno if that's true. AKOM certainly has heavy stuff - but I guess the lasting memory of that record is the lite fluff that pads it out. Bad track order I think? Same with The Miracle - it definitely rocks as much as they always did but the sounds they employed soften the rock feeling. Same with Hot Space to the nth degree! Would be interested to hear what your favorite album is purely down to less eclecticism / more rock? Genuine question :) |
| SweetCarolina 16.03.2019 01:27 |
The Miracle I love: I Want It All (Rocks Version is much better) Breakthru Scandal The Invisible Man (Video Version is better) Hang On In There The Miracle And my favo: Was It All Worth It! |
| yogadull 23.03.2019 03:17 |
absolutely no questions asked, The best Album in that era stephen curry wallpaper |