| Holly2003 26.06.2018 18:38 |
Brian claims he was wary of appearing to "cash in" on Fred's death so he asked Fred (on his death bed) for his permission to release Driven by You. Brian claims Fred gave his approval, making a joke along the lines that Fred's death will be great publicity for the single. My question is ... does anyone believe this? Brian is known for telling err... mis-truths when it suits him, not just memory lapses, but lies (PR was Fred's favourite singer, Its a Hard Life never performed live until Queen & Tom Chaplin sang it in 2011 at the Princes Trust concert, that his "Respect" campaign was apolitical). The Fred/Driven by You story came from Brian. Is there any evidence to support it? Incidentally, this single release was the source of Rog and Brian falling out for a bit so if the Fred bit is true you might think Rog would know about it from other insiders, or that Brian would've told him. |
| emrabt 26.06.2018 18:56 |
Brian does tend to make stuff up to suit the situation, like when he said Freddie loved Waynes world.... Obviously it's just my opinion but yeah, Freddie spent more time talking to Brian on his deathbed than Delboy's mum*. *From the British sitcom “Only Fools and Horse” The character of Delboy would often manipulate his brother by tell him stuff his mother said on her deathbed. |
| Sebastian 26.06.2018 19:13 |
I'd suppose the single was scheduled for that week anyway and it was just a coincidence Fred died one day before it officially hit the shops. There was no way to foresee that with such accuracy. |
| Pim Derks 26.06.2018 19:38 |
"Incidentally, this single release was the source of Rog and Brian falling out for a bit so if the Fred bit is true you might think Rog would know about it from other insiders, or that Brian would've told him. " Any more information about this? |
| Darren_1977 26.06.2018 23:03 |
I wonder were Queen asked rather than Brian himself to do it , seems like a strange choice just to ask Brian rather than the whole band , I’m sure it would have been a massive hit |
| Jeremy 26.06.2018 23:45 |
In regards to the Wayne's World thing, principal photography is often complete the year before a film's release. In this case, from 2 August 1991 to 24 September 1991. This correlates with Brian's claim of having been sent the Bohemian Rhapsody scene(not the entire movie) and he and Freddie finding it very funny and agreeing to let them use the song. |
| musicland munich 27.06.2018 00:34 |
Queen was already dead at that point. To my belief Freddie gave his permission to do whatever they want to do around summer 91'. The music business turned Brian - like many others - into a professional liar. It sounds hard I know. We can call him a teller of fairy tales if you like ;) |
| Iron Butterfly 27.06.2018 03:56 |
I have often wondered about it myself. I don't know if I believe it or not. I hope Brian wouldn't lie or exaggerate something like this. |
| dysan 27.06.2018 06:50 |
I could've sworn it was released in 1993. Having checked I now realise it wasn't but also MANDELLA EFFECT |
| Dug 27.06.2018 09:17 |
Brian and Roger were on breakfast TV together two days after the release of Driven by You. they didnt appear to have fallen out then |
| emrabt 27.06.2018 09:19 |
I very much doubt Freddie would be awake enough in his last two months to have time to sit and watch clips of Wayne's world and approve them. |
| dysan 27.06.2018 11:39 |
It's probably what did for him. |
| cmsdrums 27.06.2018 11:58 |
Single releases were scheduled some weeks (and sometimes even months) in advance, so Driven By You would have been in for it's Nov 91 slot for a while. My recollection is that as the date approached, and considering Freddie's ailing health, he says he offered to pull/delay the release but Freddie would have none of it. Sounds feasible to me. |
| dysan 27.06.2018 12:15 |
Him seeing the Ford ad on tv would've been a nice touch in that fan fiction last week. |
| Togg 27.06.2018 13:02 |
I would tend to side with Brian here, the singles are/were pre set with dates long in advance, where did we hear that Brian and Roger fell out at this point? I always thought that was during the first work Roger and John did on made in Heaven that Brian later wiped... I don't believe he tells lies, I thik like a lot if not all of us he sees things from his POV and doens't always understand the other perspective, he does forget stuff but hey who doesn't I cant remember what my band played live two weeks ago let alone 20 years, so I cut him slack on some of this stuff, as for Rodger being Freds fav singer, I suspect what he really meant was 'one of' or a singer he admired, many did back in the day and I'm sure Freddie would have been one of the first to recognise Rodgers for the rock singer he was, he's more of a pub rock singer than I think he gets noted for, but he was a very high profile guy back in teh early 70's so I dont see why Freddie wouldnt have at least talked about him. Brian then twists that to make a point, we all do that on occassion, and honestly if we all have every comment recorded for all time we might also see much of what we say is less than accurate |
| emrabt 27.06.2018 13:26 |
“Brian, you're trying to make me fucking sound like Paul Rodgers, and I can't do it!”' Doesn't sound like Freddie thought he was the best person for the Queen sound to be honest...... Ironically this is a Brian quote pre team up, It sort of got exaggerated the longer Queen + Paul Rodgers continued until Paul Became Freddies favorite singer...... |
| The Real Wizard 27.06.2018 15:24 |
Pim Derks wrote: "Incidentally, this single release was the source of Rog and Brian falling out for a bit so if the Fred bit is true you might think Rog would know about it from other insiders, or that Brian would've told him. " Any more information about this?There's a Roger interview from 1993 where he speaks not too flatteringly about Brian specifically because of this. So the fact that Brian wasn't involved in the initial MIH sessions with John and Roger really is telling - he and Roger may not have been on speaking terms. But clearly they smoothed things out by 1994, and then they began working on the album together. Anyone got a link to that interview !? |
| Sebastian 27.06.2018 16:22 |
link perhaps? |
| musicland munich 27.06.2018 23:37 |
The Real Wizard wrote: There's a Roger interview from 1993 where he speaks not too flatteringly about Brian specifically because of this. So the fact that Brian wasn't involved in the initial MIH sessions with John and Roger really is telling - he and Roger may not have been on speaking terms. But clearly they smoothed things out by 1994, and then they began working on the album together. Anyone got a link to that interview !?Sounds plausible to me. They've also contradict each other in the media about to go on with Queen (and G.Michael) in that period. |
| The Real Wizard 28.06.2018 04:08 |
Sebastian wrote: link perhaps?There it is. Thanks ! |
| Togg 28.06.2018 10:07 |
That was fascinating to hear, not listened to it before, he really wasn't a fan of Brian releasing he sosl work at that time, and I guess Brian could have pulled it at the last moment, but I bet a million pounds Jim Beach pushed for it to go ahead at just that point... |
| Pim Derks 28.06.2018 10:25 |
"I don't want to hear any comments that man has to make" :-D |
| Cruella de Vil 30.06.2018 08:33 |
I find this a really interesting interview in respect of the shift in alliances within the remnants of Queen. With this interview being recorded in 1993, and Roger Clearly referencing a strong interest in continuing as Queen from both himself and John (surprise?); Rog and Deacy appearing as Queen in Cowdray Park in September and the preliminary sessions for what would be made in heaven launched by Rog and Deacy, which Brian basically rejected. Is this perhaps another reason for John calling it quits?? |
| Dr Magus 30.06.2018 11:48 |
John seemed happy to do the odd thing when Queen was just the three of them. He seemed happy to make the odd appearance with their friend, Elton. He just wasn't interested in replacing Freddie and the embarrassing debacle with 5ive etc. Good on him. Always intelligent and astute was John, and he kept his dignity intact. |
| Sebastian 30.06.2018 13:09 |
I admire John as a musician and businessman but I don't know him personally so I can't tell if his choice to retire was 'ethical' or simply 'practical'. For all we know, it could've been less 'I don't want to tamper with our sacred legacy' and more 'I can get royalties without moving a muscle, Maylor can do all the work and keep the cheques coming!' |
| Chrisallstar 30.06.2018 18:40 |
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| Chrisallstar 30.06.2018 18:46 |
I find this period of Queen from 92 - 2000 to be fascinating. The shifting allegiances within the band, the fact that John did seem open to doing the odd project under the Queen banner. Brian even said in a letter to the fan club at this time (1997) saying that they almost decided on a Queen tour, and Jacky visited them in Roger’s studio and the three of them were playing songs like “innuendo” etc. It would be great to see a proper focus on this period in a documentary. They all clearly fell out at one point. |
| Iron Butterfly 01.07.2018 00:11 |
Chrisallstar wrote: I find this period of Queen from 92 - 2000 to be fascinating. The shifting allegiances within the band, the fact that John did seem open to doing the odd project under the Queen banner. Brian even said in a letter to the fan club at this time (1997) saying that they almost decided on a Queen tour, and Jacky visited them in Roger’s studio and the three of them were playing songs like “innuendo” etc. It would be great to see a proper focus on this period in a documentary. They all clearly fell out at one point.Call me jaded, but I don't think we will ever get the full story. John is extremely unlikely to give his story and Brian and Roger...I'm also unsure if they will be so open about it. |
| Sebastian 01.07.2018 05:24 |
Even if they do open up, we'll never know if that's what actually happened, or what they think happened (Rashomon effect), or what they want us to think happened (showbiz propaganda). |
| cmsdrums 01.07.2018 07:18 |
Dr Magus wrote: Good on him. Always intelligent and astute was John, and he kept his dignity intact.Dignity intact...except when he was plastered all over the national papers with his face buried in a stripper of course! |
| dysan 01.07.2018 07:39 |
I think we can say, looking at the evidence and hearing that Roger interview, is that things are over thought now. They worked better when they just DID stuff. Like Roger saying the other 2 weren't sure of doing the Tribute gig but I guess they were flying by the seat of their pants and threw caution to the wind and got on with it. Since then when they've been umming and ahing for years about plans, they generally are unsatisfying. |
| john bodega 01.07.2018 08:29 |
I screamlaughed the first time I heard the TV ad version of the song, but was then disappointed that he hadn't updated every single lyric to be Ford-related. I really wanted to hear him spruik for the innovative transmission or the spectacular road holding, but in MUSIC form! |
| dysan 01.07.2018 08:50 |
Dear Queen We'd like to use I'm In Love With My Car in an advert. IS that OK? Yours, Ford *Brian hides letter from Roger and quickly rerecords his own current tune and coins it in* |
| jenniferbrownz 20.07.2018 08:57 |
I wonder were Queen asked rather than Brian himself to do it , seems like a strange choice just to ask Brian rather than the whole band , I’m sure it would have been a massive hit ___________________ kissmanga list |
| dysan 20.07.2018 09:20 |
Brian is obviously the coolest member who loves cars and not all that nerdy stuff Roger likes. |
| Vocal harmony 20.07.2018 10:05 |
jenniferbrownz wrote: I wonder were Queen asked rather than Brian himself to do it , seems like a strange choice just to ask Brian rather than the whole band , I’m sure it would have been a massive hit ___________________ kissmanga listAt the time, because of Freddie, Queen's profile was quite high. Brian was also launching his solo career. He had the weight of the record company behind him as well as Jim Beach. If Ford or an advertising agency approached Queen for an advert soundtrack it's pretty obvious now that they would have had to turn it down, unless it was a catalogue song. I'd imagine the thinking was the best way to get Brian out to the general public Esperanto to Queen was with something like this. It was a calculated move like most things in most industries, the bottom line is selling songs. |
| popy 22.07.2018 02:25 |
It's a spammer. Don't bother replying. Doesn't this forum have mods? Why there's only two (to my knowledge, Richard and YourValentine) mods and why they won't give mod status to three or four of the regular users that they can trust? |