QueenZone discussion #1511773

someonewholikesadam wrote: Go for it.

princetom wrote: the queen is dead. long live the queen.

runner_70 wrote: Fuck Lametart and his retarded fans

SweetCaroline wrote: Russian Headlong, we can’t do anything about it. Have you contacted B or R ???

princetom wrote: well. kind of progressive now: is the general fuzz about AL as a singer or against the same old, same old playlist they're doing ?

snifflese wrote: Well, If John wanted to be featured in the show, he is still with us and he could be up on that stage. It is his choice not to do so. I see no reason for any fuss to be made over him. As far as Freddie, it is hard for Adam to be accepted if all you see is Freddie. Initially, there was great resistance and it was a hard road and a long road for Adam to be appreciated. I think the more Freddie is shown, the harder it is. This is not Queen with Freddie, as you guys always say. It is Queen with Adam which equals QAL. I see no good reason for more of Freddie, honestly. It undermines QAL and what they are trying to achieve. I think the right balance has been achieved as you don't want to make things harder for yourself. I think at this point Adam has earned the right to sing the end of BR. At some point the past is over and people are on to new things. That is just the way of the world and I think it is handled nicely in the show. Let Freddie sing The Dayoos and be by himself.

SweetCaroline wrote: The people who don’t go to the shows are the most offended by who and what is and is not included. QAL is Brian and Roger’s show and they don’t need any suggestions from the peanut gallery because what they are doing is magnificent! Get yourself to Vegas and it will blow your minds!

snifflese wrote: Icy, it is great that John was part of the band, but he chose not to tour with them. You can see him up there during BR. Since when do they show the composers of a song when someone else is singing them? I really don't get that part at all. John doesn't have to approve QAL as I don't care what he thinks. He must not be opposed or they probably wouldn't be doing this. As long as the money keeps coming in, I am sure he is fine with all of that. Do other bands show the old band members when they switch them out or they die? I don't remember Iron Maiden showing the old singer. I just don't think that is done. Why would you want to remind everyone of a singer who is no longer in the band? Freddie is of coure an exception and he IS shown and homage is paid to him and he is often mentioned during the course of the concert. So how much is enough, without it reminding everyone too much of him and perhaps lessening their enjoyment of the concert? I have never heard this complaint other than from a few die hard Queen fans. I am not totally sure that the fans going to the shows would feel a lot better (like you do) with more John (don't think too many folks care about that one!) and they think proper respect is already given to Freddie. You may be an outlier here. If you just want to see Freddie and John, you can stay home and watch youtubes! Millions go even though they know neither John nor Freddie are really making any appearances!

runner_70 wrote: On the one hand it is a pity that they are not shown too much - on the other hand I feel it is better because showing Freddie next to this "thing" is just utter laughable and means to sell this tool to justify him destroyingthe songs with his screaming voice. Better distance Freddie and John from this tragedy. I wish John would give ONE interview or would write a book. I dont think Maylor would get too much praise for theit actions since Made in Heaven (which was the last project regarding Queen for me)

andres_clip wrote: Broadway and opera to Freddie. What a comparison ffs...

snifflese wrote: Every original composer who writes opera or classical music (and is now dead) worked his ass off as you put it. Doesn't mean that new singers are not constantly singing their music and pictures of the original composer is not shown at the opera or classical hall. It might be in the program, but that is about it. I am not sure why Queen is any different, although it is more current, but still the same kind of a thing? Most people who are in the entertainment business and are successful, work their asses off, but Broadway switches actors, movies are remade and new singers sing old tunes. That is just how it is! Why is Freddie different? He is shown so much love and appreciation during the concert and I think it is way more than is usual. Not sure how much grumbling there should be about this.

rockchic65 wrote:

runner_70 wrote: On the one hand it is a pity that they are not shown too much - on the other hand I feel it is better because showing Freddie next to this "thing" is just utter laughable and means to sell this tool to justify him destroyingthe songs with his screaming voice. Better distance Freddie and John from this tragedy. I wish John would give ONE interview or would write a book. I dont think Maylor would get too much praise for theit actions since Made in Heaven (which was the last project regarding Queen for me)

John retired for personal reasons, nothing to do with any of their collabs and since he's still getting royalties and they are successful why would he care. And as to Adam/the show being laughable, the only laughable thing is that people like you constantly put them down as being crap despite all eveidence to the contrary. Queen fans wouldn't constantly go to these shows if they were crap, that's just you being petty because it's not Freddie. It's pretty selfish IMO to not see that Brian & Roger deserve to still be out there playing the music they helped create simply because Freddie was taken too soon.

Iron Butterfly wrote: John had something to say about Robbie Williams covering watch few years back. He didn't sound pleased. No one here knows how John feels about Q+'s in the past few years, I'm thinking we may never know. What is selfish to me, is that AL is squeezed in every where possible during these shows, and that means less of Freddie and John. I do know this much. Many of my friends on the internet go to Q+AL because of Brian and Roger. That's who they want to see play, and yes some of them feel the way I do about Freddie and John. I love it when Brian sings LOML, I wish Roger would sing DOOL as a tribute to Freddie and John. That's more of a tribute to me, than the way some think Brian passing the Coronet to AL.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: John had something to say about Robbie Williams covering watch few years back. He didn't sound pleased. No one here knows how John feels about Q+'s in the past few years, I'm thinking we may never know. What is selfish to me, is that AL is squeezed in every where possible during these shows, and that means less of Freddie and John. I do know this much. Many of my friends on the internet go to Q+AL because of Brian and Roger. That's who they want to see play, and yes some of them feel the way I do about Freddie and John. I love it when Brian sings LOML, I wish Roger would sing DOOL as a tribute to Freddie and John. That's more of a tribute to me, than the way some think Brian passing the Coronet to AL.

I know what John thought about Robbie and you're right we probably never will hear from John about anything, he seems to have become almost a recluse, certainly he doesn't keep in touch with Brian & Roger. In the case of John, since he's alive and chose to retire I don't see that in the same way as Freddie. They do show him in the montage when they do DOOL, no idea why they only do it sporadically, I've never heard them talk about it in interview so it's anyone's guess why Roger seems to do AKOM more. They did it at the show I saw and I loved it. Regarding showing Freddie, I think they get it just right with the parts they show. I go to a show to have a great time, enjoy the music, sing a long and have fun, I don't want to go and be reminded of the fact Freddie's no longer here and have it turn into a nostalgic trip down memory lane for half the night, to me that wouldn't work, it's not what going to a show is about, and I personally think it wouldn't be fair to Adam either, every night he goes out there part of what he has to do is win over the audience, to me that would be made a lot harder if Freddie kept appearing, and would just lead to comparisons in people's minds.

Iron Butterfly wrote: Just a guess on my part here. I don't think DOOL is the easiest song to sing, considering what the song is about. It may be hard for Roger to sing it night after night. To me, that song was the perfect way to pay tribute to Freddie and John. Even AL's speech can't hold a candle to DOOL for me. I'd rather hear and see DOOL than the gimmicks, or even an AL solo song. AL has managed one of his songs to be in the set list for awhile now...and that to me is too bad, because that's less of a chance and Freddie and John. Some people will always and obviously compare Freddie to AL. I think that will always happen. I don't expect Freddie to keep appearing throughout the show. DOOL and LOML were nice reflections as a look back, IMO.

snifflese wrote: If singing a certain song is all you meant by honoring John and Freddie, that is fine by me. I thought you meant holograms and videos, etc. The problem is that I doubt most of the concert goers know who wrote the song and which one exactly is being honored! I don't think most people have any idea of the writer and many were written by several Queen members. And no, I don't think it is fair to take Lucy out at this point. Adam deserves one lousy song. How many did Paul do? Especially since Lucy fits better with Queen music and Brian played on it. Can't you give the poor guy a break? You keep on bringing up Nate and Lady Gaga. My problem with them is that they sounded awful. Nate just has a voice that is not suited to Queen and Gaga obviously didn't practice, as she can sing. If I pay to see QAL, I don't want other singers there! What bands have "random people" up on stage singing with the band? That is so weird. If that is something Brian and Roger wish to pursue, hopefully, it won't be as QAL. And since They said they don't want to work with anyone else, I think it is a moot point.

SweetCaroline wrote: When I watch videos of the original Queen shows I get the idea that Freddie was the whole show, never stops moving the whole time, up and down the ramps, and the other three guys are just there to support him in the background. I honestly think Brian and Roger get more individual closeup attention in the QAL shows! So that’s why I don’t get why icy thinks Freddie and John are being ignored in the current shows. Was John ever featured in a solo on his bass guitar? I haven’t seen it.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: When I watch videos of the original Queen shows I get the idea that Freddie was the whole show, never stops moving the whole time, up and down the ramps, and the other three guys are just there to support him in the background. I honestly think Brian and Roger get more individual closeup attention in the QAL shows! So that’s why I don’t get why icy thinks Freddie and John are being ignored in the current shows. Was John ever featured in a solo on his bass guitar? I haven’t seen it.

To me, Queen were the whole show, and not just Freddie. Their dynamic was like nothing I've seen and heard before or since. I've never said Freddie and John are being ignored. I wish there was more of him. AL does he's no Freddie speech, and nothing said about John. So I wish DOOL was done at least every now and then. Not sure how you think more focus is on Brian and Roger during these shows, unless you mean the gutiar and drum solo. Most streams I see are usually focused on AL. Look it up to find out if John ever had a bass solo. But I will tell you this, I miss his presence and talent as much as Freddie's.

SweetCaroline wrote: You are NOT seeing the whole sihow on a stream like you do when you are there in person.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: When I watch videos of the original Queen shows I get the idea that Freddie was the whole show, never stops moving the whole time, up and down the ramps, and the other three guys are just there to support him in the background. I honestly think Brian and Roger get more individual closeup attention in the QAL shows! So that’s why I don’t get why icy thinks Freddie and John are being ignored in the current shows. Was John ever featured in a solo on his bass guitar? I haven’t seen it.

To me, Queen were the whole show, and not just Freddie. Their dynamic was like nothing I've seen and heard before or since. I've never said Freddie and John are being ignored. I wish there was more of him. AL does he's no Freddie speech, and nothing said about John. So I wish DOOL was done at least every now and then. Not sure how you think more focus is on Brian and Roger during these shows, unless you mean the gutiar and drum solo. Most streams I see are usually focused on AL. Look it up to find out if John ever had a bass solo. But I will tell you this, I miss his presence and talent as much as Freddie's.

I think what sc means, I could be wrong, is that Freddie was definitely the frontman, in that he took charge and was front and centre throughout most of the show. He interacted with the audience, the call & response, taking to them and he put on a show, but he didn't interact a lot with Brian, Roger & John during songs or even between them. Aside from the parts of the show where Adam actively interacts with them at the end of catwalk, i.e. STL, CLTCL, UP, he does a lot of going up to Brian, puts his arm round him, leans on him and vice versa, goes over to Roger and occasionally Spike and Neil, there's a lot of what I'd call camaraderie between them, so the focus is on them as a whole rather than Adam solely as a frontman.

Iron Butterfly wrote: Freddie was a natural. Sometimes with AL is comes across as a bit forced, and cheesy. Queen...and I mean all four members, were a powerhouse. Together they were brilliant and nothing could come close to it for me. When I watch vintage Queen concerts, it still blows me away, from the Rainbow DVD to Wembley. I don't think Freddie, Brian Roger and needed to put arms around each onstage, but I think there was usually a great deal of respect between the guys for the most part, especially in the last couple of years. True brotherhood right there.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: Freddie was a natural. Sometimes with AL is comes across as a bit forced, and cheesy. Queen...and I mean all four members, were a powerhouse. Together they were brilliant and nothing could come close to it for me. When I watch vintage Queen concerts, it still blows me away, from the Rainbow DVD to Wembley. I don't think Freddie, Brian Roger and needed to put arms around each onstage, but I think there was usually a great deal of respect between the guys for the most part, especially in the last couple of years. True brotherhood right there.

I don't mean from a friendship/respect point of view, just a different way of performing, a different dynamic onstage. Maybe because Adam comes from a theater background where you are mostly interacting with someone all the time, acting a part as opposed to just singing, he's used to that type of performing more. I do know he does it with his solo stuff as well, it just seems to be his way.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: Freddie was a natural. Sometimes with AL is comes across as a bit forced, and cheesy. Queen...and I mean all four members, were a powerhouse. Together they were brilliant and nothing could come close to it for me. When I watch vintage Queen concerts, it still blows me away, from the Rainbow DVD to Wembley. I don't think Freddie, Brian Roger and needed to put arms around each onstage, but I think there was usually a great deal of respect between the guys for the most part, especially in the last couple of years. True brotherhood right there.

I don't mean from a friendship/respect point of view, just a different way of performing, a different dynamic onstage. Maybe because Adam comes from a theater background where you are mostly interacting with someone all the time, acting a part as opposed to just singing, he's used to that type of performing more. I do know he does it with his solo stuff as well, it just seems to be his way.

I much prefer Freddie's prescence honestly. IMO, it was much more genuine and real. Hate to say this, but AL much of the time can still come across as acting. I guess most singers do act in a way. But there's the real deal, and there's not. I'd say for AL with Q+AL it isn't very real, after all, it's 99% not his music.

runner_70 wrote: Iron Butterfly - you hit the nail on its (ugly) head: Lamebird is ACTING as if he was a rockstar. And he is acting like some in a d-Movie. He comes across as a giant dick, completely unocnvincing , contrived boring - and his awful screeching voice is the icing on the shitfest.

rockchic65 wrote:

runner_70 wrote: Iron Butterfly - you hit the nail on its (ugly) head: Lamebird is ACTING as if he was a rockstar. And he is acting like some in a d-Movie. He comes across as a giant dick, completely unocnvincing , contrived boring - and his awful screeching voice is the icing on the shitfest.

Only to you and a handful of others, the majority are loving it and I suspect that's what really bugs you the most. And like I said, all performers act.

runner_70 wrote: Freddie never ACTED the Rockstar he WAS a rockstar thru and thru. Lamerbird is acting as if he was one and is failing miserably. He is an EMO pop fluff wanker noone gives a shit about

runner_70 wrote: As I said look into the forums. FOr most of the QUeen fans that go so far and visit this tragedy Lamebird is just there to make them see Maylor - no one is going because of Lamebird. Tehy would go there even if Kermit would sing (who would do a better job than the tranny)

runner_70 wrote: If he loved Freddie then he should stay away from a microphone and Queen songs as far was he possibly can and stop ridiculing this once mighty band to a sad caricature that is QAL. Utter laughable

runner_70 wrote: Freddie never ACTED the Rockstar he WAS a rockstar thru and thru. Lamerbird is acting as if he was one and is failing miserably. He is an EMO pop fluff wanker noone gives a shit about

snifflese wrote: I am not sure how you know that Freddie was genuine and real on stage. To me he struts around and waves things about in lots of weird outfits and I never found that esp. natural or real. It is just a different way that he commands the stage. He had gimmicks and I hate it when you say they are "real gimmicks". A prop or gimmick is the same, no matter who works with them on stage. I think they are great because they are interesting, but the idea one is more real than the other is silly. Freddie looked anything but real on stage. It was almost as if he were attacking the stage and I told you once, he kind of frightened me when I was a young lady. I am sure he was not like that in real life. Adam and Freddie were acting and putting on a show and each does it in his own way, but neither guy is that stage person in real life. If you notice, Adam will do something really silly on stage and then make a face to the audience and bust out giggling. He knows he is silly and the audience knows it and it is just part of the show. I am sure Freddie was like that, too. A front man for a rock group has to be not only a singer, but a good actor with charisma, which they both have. People are drawn to watch them on stage. That is what made Queen and makes QAL fun to watch and a great concert! And of course, the music and singing have to be stellar, that goes without saying!! Everybody likes something different, which is a good thing!

runner_70 wrote: Freddie never ACTED the Rockstar he WAS a rockstar thru and thru. Lamerbird is acting as if he was one and is failing miserably. He is an EMO pop fluff wanker noone gives a shit about

SweetCaroline wrote: The gimmicks! The gimmicks! What do you want him to do, stand there like a statue? When “Frank” comes up from the floor with Adam sitting on top and when he struts over to that silly tricycle, a ripple goes through the whole audience acknowledging how funny it is! If it was the ‘70’s again and they had the technology to do these kinds of stage effects, I bet Fteddie would have loved doing the same things!

SweetCaroline wrote: Icy go take a cold shower and leave me alone. You are not the be all end all authority on Freddie. You didn’t even know who he was until he died!

snifflese wrote: To me it seems like too much Queen history keeps one from appreciating the current things going on with Queen. I bet not even 5% of people at the concerts know all the Queen trivia. All that matters to enjoy QAL now is a pair of ears and eyes. You either like the music/concert or you don't. Knowing the history of TSMGO is not a prerequisite! Knowing all that stuff keeps you from enjoying anything (with very few exceptions) QAL related. Not sure that is a good thing! I really don't think Caroline lusts after Adam, A little over the top on your part in saying that??

rockchic65 wrote: The head and bicycle parts take up less than 6 minutes of a 2 hour+ show, and the rest is about the music. IMO there's actually less of the messing about in these shows than in previous years. I barely even remember those bits the show is that fast paced.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: The head and bicycle parts take up less than 6 minutes of a 2 hour+ show, and the rest is about the music. IMO there's actually less of the messing about in these shows than in previous years. I barely even remember those bits the show is that fast paced.

I know it's short. I'm looking at this as a Queen fan, and maybe I'm the only one who wishes the gimmicks were not a part of it. It's not even orginal at this point. Thing is, Queen with Freddie kept evolving. Q+AL, not so much.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: The head and bicycle parts take up less than 6 minutes of a 2 hour+ show, and the rest is about the music. IMO there's actually less of the messing about in these shows than in previous years. I barely even remember those bits the show is that fast paced.

I know it's short. I'm looking at this as a Queen fan, and maybe I'm the only one who wishes the gimmicks were not a part of it. It's not even orginal at this point. Thing is, Queen with Freddie kept evolving. Q+AL, not so much.

Adam seems to see it as a bit fun and the audience certainly seem to like it and think it's funny. If it weren't working I'm sure they would have quickly dropped it by now.

Iron Butterfly wrote: I wonder what AL thinks about the Coronet. That will never be "fun" for me. I hate that more than anything...did you guess ;-).

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: I wonder what AL thinks about the Coronet. That will never be "fun" for me. I hate that more than anything...did you guess ;-).

He never mentions it but then he never gets asked and aside from one or two die hard fans on facebook no one ever seems to comment on it. A lot of what he does is based on honouring Freddie, especially clothes, he feels Queen were a very theatrical band and that by keeping up that side of things it's a tribute to Freddie and he feels the Queen legacy gives him the freedom to go wild with the outfits and theatricality. I wondered how it would go down at first but loads of people comment that they love it or at least it makes them laugh and they affectionately call him madam etc, if anything from what I see it endears him to people.

Iron Butterfly wrote: Another thing that bothers me. AL speaking about Freddie's sexuality. Again. Guardian artcle this time.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: Another thing that bothers me. AL speaking about Freddie's sexuality. Again. Guardian artcle this time.

He constantly gets asked that question in interviews, because he's always been so open I guess they feel they can ask him anything. I don't know what he said in that one but I didn't see anything wrong with what he previously said about thinking Freddie might be very open about his sexuality if he were living in these times. It isn't anything personal, it's not like he's giving away information about him, just his opinion.

snifflese wrote: Well, he didn't say alot, but you should know that when a reporter asks, you can never get away without answering something. It just won't happen, otherwise they will just make something up nowadays. I would be willing to bet the sexuality issue has been discussed at length with Brian and Roger. It would seem strange to me if they hadn't seeing as Adam is gay. I assume what he said would have been something he heard from them. I sam not sure what you found offensive, I thought it sounded pretty straight forward and as a gay man, he probably also has an opinion about that time in gay history and that was also a good part of the initial question, I found his answer thoughtful and nothing offensive or earth shattering. I don't understand why it offends you?

snifflese wrote: Well, he didn't say alot, but you should know that when a reporter asks, you can never get away without answering something. It just won't happen, otherwise they will just make something up nowadays. I would be willing to bet the sexuality issue has been discussed at length with Brian and Roger. It would seem strange to me if they hadn't seeing as Adam is gay. I assume what he said would have been something he heard from them. I sam not sure what you found offensive, I thought it sounded pretty straight forward and as a gay man, he probably also has an opinion about that time in gay history and that was also a good part of the initial question, I found his answer thoughtful and nothing offensive or earth shattering. I don't understand why it offends you?

rockchic65 wrote:

snifflese wrote: Well, he didn't say alot, but you should know that when a reporter asks, you can never get away without answering something. It just won't happen, otherwise they will just make something up nowadays. I would be willing to bet the sexuality issue has been discussed at length with Brian and Roger. It would seem strange to me if they hadn't seeing as Adam is gay. I assume what he said would have been something he heard from them. I sam not sure what you found offensive, I thought it sounded pretty straight forward and as a gay man, he probably also has an opinion about that time in gay history and that was also a good part of the initial question, I found his answer thoughtful and nothing offensive or earth shattering. I don't understand why it offends you?

He actually says he's discussed it with Brian & Roger and quotes something Roger said:- Understandably, Lambert thinks about Freddie Mercury a lot, discussing with Queen bandmates Roger Taylor and Brian May what he’d have made of a new pop movement that’s seen a raft of queer artists break into the mainstream. “Roger was like: ‘I think he would be really open and upfront about it, because that’s what he was like to all of us.’ [His sexuality] was just taboo in the media. But he was very matter of fact once he’d come to terms with it.

Iron Butterfly wrote: As an aside, I don't mind that AL discussed it with Brian and Roger. I would hope that they would keep it between them. Not some tabloid ish statement that AL didn't know in or out of the closet Freddie was. Freddie didn't trust many reporters or press. Looking back, I don't blame him. As another aside. I think it's good that AL is speaking about his own sexuality. That could help people, in fact I know it has. Freddie was an immense talent. That's what I think about him. I don't think it's AL's place to speak about his personal life. Would AL want someone else to do the same to him? For what, to sell a few more papers? It's not worth it,IMO.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: As an aside, I don't mind that AL discussed it with Brian and Roger. I would hope that they would keep it between them. Not some tabloid ish statement that AL didn't know in or out of the closet Freddie was. Freddie didn't trust many reporters or press. Looking back, I don't blame him. As another aside. I think it's good that AL is speaking about his own sexuality. That could help people, in fact I know it has. Freddie was an immense talent. That's what I think about him. I don't think it's AL's place to speak about his personal life. Would AL want someone else to do the same to him? For what, to sell a few more papers? It's not worth it,IMO.

It was just a couple of lines in the article, I doubt he thought anything of it. Plus Freddie's personal life has been talked about in various places, documentaries and interviews, it's definitely no secret so it's not like he's talking about stuff people don't already know. I don't for one minute think he'd say anything told to him in confidence.

snifflese wrote: I don't think much was really said either, not in comparison to what is in most tabloids and even on TV. What Adam said was no different than things I have seen on the internet or in documentaries. There is not much in this world that is private anymore. I saw a bunch of pics on a documentary abiut Queen where they showed scenes from parties, now that was some pretty heavy stuff. If it was a big secret, I am sure that Adam would not reveal anything, but I don't think he said anything earth shattering. It was generic and stuff even I already knew. I am sure Freddie would not be treating his sexuality in this day and age like he did back then, but everyone knew he was gay even then. Where is the private, big secret stuff? Can you find anything else that Adam does that you find offensive? There sure seem to be a lot of things!

snifflese wrote: I am sure I would have been scandalized!!! Don't even want to go there!! Everybody deserves his privacy and all that crap that gets thrown on the internet is really sad. I hate those stalkers that try to catch someone in a compromising position and post pics and articles on-line.They are real bottom feeders! I am a firm believer in what goes around, comes around and eventually, they will get theirs.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: The head and bicycle parts take up less than 6 minutes of a 2 hour+ show, and the rest is about the music. IMO there's actually less of the messing about in these shows than in previous years. I barely even remember those bits the show is that fast paced.

I know it's short. I'm looking at this as a Queen fan, and maybe I'm the only one who wishes the gimmicks were not a part of it. It's not even orginal at this point. Thing is, Queen with Freddie kept evolving. Q+AL, not so much. [/QUOTE)
It amazes me that so many "real fans" seem to have forgotten Freddie sitting on Darth Vader and Supermans shoulders during We Will Rock You.... Star awards and Superman had a line each in a Queen song. At least Frank's head is related to a Queen album cover.
As regard to AL riding a tricycle, so what, it's a laugh. . . And he's laughing at himself too. A sense of humour lacking in some apparent fans! On the Jazz tour at at least one venue they had a few women on bicycles. . . Can't really see that going down in theses PC times!

snifflese wrote: I really do think that if Freddie did the things Adam does, you would find it great, because it was Freddie. Freddie acted pretty outrageous on stage and had lots of ridiculous props that were no different and they weren't real or organic just because Freddie did it. They were part of the show to make it more outrageous and fun for the concert goers. There is no difference between the two, as far as gimmicks go. None of the gimmicks take away from the music. The music is pretty much without flaw. QAL is very much invested in the music and the little gimmicks are just for fun !I do agree about the head remark but I am good on all the rest. It is frivolous and fun and reinforce the song that they go along with!

snifflese wrote: Times have changed, I guess. Who know what outrageous things Freddie would say now that you can pretty much let it all hang out. I bet you would be surprised!

SweetCaroline wrote: So I guess it’s AOK that Fred said “F U” at the end of his Day-O call and response?

Iron Butterfly wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: So I guess it’s AOK that Fred said “F U” at the end of his Day-O call and response?

When Freddie did that, it was at a Queen concert. Are you insulted that he said it? You really don't know much about Freddie if you think him saying F U is bad. Or that you think I should be aghast at what Freddie said. The F bomb doesn't bother me. Q+AL concerts are not Al solo shows.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: So I guess it’s AOK that Fred said “F U” at the end of his Day-O call and response?

When Freddie did that, it was at a Queen concert. Are you insulted that he said it? You really don't know much about Freddie if you think him saying F U is bad. Or that you think I should be aghast at what Freddie said. The F bomb doesn't bother me. Q+AL concerts are not Al solo shows.

It's not his solo show but there's no way Adam could go out on stage fronting the band and not be himself, it wouldn't work. He admits at the beginning he was intimidated and checking in with them for approval of what he was doing but that just stilts your performance if you're constantly wondering if you're doing the right thing. IMO to make it work they have to be a band, not just him be like a guest singer, despite him calling himself that, but for the purposes of a performance he has to just go for it and treat it the way any band would, they're in it together and the performance has to be your own way of doing things.

snifflese wrote: Icy, it may come as a surprise to you, but QAL shows are no longer Freddie shows. Just because Adam sings Freddie's music,(and the other member's music as it is NOT all Freddie's music), does not mean it is still a Freddie show. It is a Brian, Roger, and Adam show since that is who is performing at this point in time. I just read a brand new article and Adam says he has the permission from Brian and Roger to do his show, his way, which is so liberating. He also says, that if they wanted to tell him what to do, he would have said, "yes, Sir". So, this idea that because Adam is singing Freddie's music, he can't do certain things is ridiculous. Bands do switch members and the new band takes on the personality of the new member, just like here. It is no longer the Queen of old (which you know) and it will never be. It is a different time, but I will say that Adam has many similarities to Freddie in vocal range, being gay, loving fashion and other things. There is just a similar vibe that I feel. I don't think anyone else in the world is a better fit for Queen right now. That is why they keep on touring and playing to millions of people.

SweetCaroline wrote: Icy you are the most stubborn human being I know and I really do not know you. You are so stuck and immovable. I don’t know if you are married or have a partner but I hope you are easier to get along with in your personal life than you are on the Internet!

SweetCaroline wrote: I’m going to Florida soon and was in Vegas last summer with my cousin so don’t think I can go back there in September. If you have AXS TV, they are doing a Bad Company marathon. I’ve been watching for 10 minutes and haven’t fallen asleep — YET! LOL

SweetCaroline wrote: I don’t like what Paul does with the microphone. Queen and Adam — exciting! Bad Company and Paul — repetitive and boring!

SweetCaroline wrote: He carries it around (mic and stand) like it is another appendage. They are a good rock band but just not exciting!

runner_70 wrote: Still Lamebird is a talentless wanker destroying my favourite band and Maylor are embarrassing themselves to the max playing with this tool

runner_70 wrote: Absolutely embarrassing-Briteny Spears sells mor tickets than Maylor. Is she any good? No- same crap. TOo bad Maylor were once rock legends now they are sad caricatures of themselves teaming up with this asswhipe

runner_70 wrote: It wont bring him back but each time this "thing" is on stage he is mocking Freddie by destroying this great songs with his unlisteanble voice and his stage antics. And the crown/coronet thing is the epitome of bad taste and disrespect. Maylor should ask themselves who made Queen big. They are way past embarrassment now and every sane person/Freddie fan is shaking his head in disbelief that they team up with this tool, a karaoke loser that they despiced 10 years ago (see the song "C Lebrity", which is exactly what Lamefart is - a fucking karoake kid with no musical talent whatsoever)

runner_70 wrote: Slah told the tool not to screech that high because it sounds annoying. I wonder what he told him when the cameras were off

snifflese wrote: Runner, I think you know what you can do with yourself, but I am too much of a lady to write it. I don't need you calling me names. What is your problem because you certainly have a huge one. Please refrain from speaking to me again. I don't need to deal with nasty idiots. Go find a site where you might be appreciated as people here are very, very tired of dealing with your childish, moronic posts.

runner_70 wrote: Lame-Bird is just fitting and has nothing to do with namecalling. He is just L A M E. Sounding like a lil girl, yodeling his annoying vibrato, looking like an overweight ladyboy

snifflese wrote: I am not sure how you know that Freddie was genuine and real on stage. To me he struts around and waves things about in lots of weird outfits and I never found that esp. natural or real. It is just a different way that he commands the stage. He had gimmicks and I hate it when you say they are "real gimmicks". A prop or gimmick is the same, no matter who works with them on stage. I think they are great because they are interesting, but the idea one is more real than the other is silly. Freddie looked anything but real on stage. It was almost as if he were attacking the stage and I told you once, he kind of frightened me when I was a young lady. I am sure he was not like that in real life. Adam and Freddie were acting and putting on a show and each does it in his own way, but neither guy is that stage person in real life. If you notice, Adam will do something really silly on stage and then make a face to the audience and bust out giggling. He knows he is silly and the audience knows it and it is just part of the show. I am sure Freddie was like that, too. A front man for a rock group has to be not only a singer, but a good actor with charisma, which they both have. People are drawn to watch them on stage. That is what made Queen and makes QAL fun to watch and a great concert! And of course, the music and singing have to be stellar, that goes without saying!! Everybody likes something different, which is a good thing!

Iron Butterfly wrote:

snifflese wrote: I am not sure how you know that Freddie was genuine and real on stage. To me he struts around and waves things about in lots of weird outfits and I never found that esp. natural or real. It is just a different way that he commands the stage. He had gimmicks and I hate it when you say they are "real gimmicks". A prop or gimmick is the same, no matter who works with them on stage. I think they are great because they are interesting, but the idea one is more real than the other is silly. Freddie looked anything but real on stage. It was almost as if he were attacking the stage and I told you once, he kind of frightened me when I was a young lady. I am sure he was not like that in real life. Adam and Freddie were acting and putting on a show and each does it in his own way, but neither guy is that stage person in real life. If you notice, Adam will do something really silly on stage and then make a face to the audience and bust out giggling. He knows he is silly and the audience knows it and it is just part of the show. I am sure Freddie was like that, too. A front man for a rock group has to be not only a singer, but a good actor with charisma, which they both have. People are drawn to watch them on stage. That is what made Queen and makes QAL fun to watch and a great concert! And of course, the music and singing have to be stellar, that goes without saying!! Everybody likes something different, which is a good thing!

Just reread this while looking for another post. You don't know how I could think Freddie was genuine and real onstage? His talent my dear. Freddie kind of frightened you? I don't even know you are even on a Queen board. For real. And you wonder why I doubt that you are a Queen or Freddie fan. SMH. If someone said AL kind of frightened anyone, you'd be jumping up and down in a rage.

SweetCaroline wrote: This is for runner 70: My son always says that Freddie was a Thunderbird and Adam is a Lamborghini!

MisterCosmicc wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

snifflese wrote: I am not sure how you know that Freddie was genuine and real on stage. To me he struts around and waves things about in lots of weird outfits and I never found that esp. natural or real. It is just a different way that he commands the stage. He had gimmicks and I hate it when you say they are "real gimmicks". A prop or gimmick is the same, no matter who works with them on stage. I think they are great because they are interesting, but the idea one is more real than the other is silly. Freddie looked anything but real on stage. It was almost as if he were attacking the stage and I told you once, he kind of frightened me when I was a young lady. I am sure he was not like that in real life. Adam and Freddie were acting and putting on a show and each does it in his own way, but neither guy is that stage person in real life. If you notice, Adam will do something really silly on stage and then make a face to the audience and bust out giggling. He knows he is silly and the audience knows it and it is just part of the show. I am sure Freddie was like that, too. A front man for a rock group has to be not only a singer, but a good actor with charisma, which they both have. People are drawn to watch them on stage. That is what made Queen and makes QAL fun to watch and a great concert! And of course, the music and singing have to be stellar, that goes without saying!! Everybody likes something different, which is a good thing!

Just reread this while looking for another post. You don't know how I could think Freddie was genuine and real onstage? His talent my dear. Freddie kind of frightened you? I don't even know you are even on a Queen board. For real. And you wonder why I doubt that you are a Queen or Freddie fan. SMH. If someone said AL kind of frightened anyone, you'd be jumping up and down in a rage.

Oh my God, Icy. Did sniffy basically just say rock and roll scares her? I’m sure she’s got a big collection of Wayne Newton records. It was Freddie’s job to ‘Tear It Up’