QueenZone discussion #1511390

mooghead wrote: Just as specifically documented as much as any other recording if you could be arsed to look.

miraclesteinway wrote: I believe in Greatest Flix II's booklet it said that Breakthru' was filmed over 2 days, which included Roger's 40th Birthday, making it July 1989. I *THINK* the album was recorded in 1988 and the videos were recorded in 1989, but I've really only the common knowledge information to go on here.

Chopin1995 wrote: 'Khashoggi's Ship' was written after October 88 (Khashoggi was arrested at the end of October 88).

Sebastian wrote:

Chopin1995 wrote: 'Khashoggi's Ship' was written after October 88 (Khashoggi was arrested at the end of October 88).

That doesn't prove a thing. Khashoggi was already famous before that and it may have been a coincidence that they wrote a song name-dropping him and nine months or so later he was arrested. Sometimes coincidences do take place: - BGT Series 3 using a lot of MJ songs for scene transitions and stuff. MJ would pass away a month or so later. - A number of things (films, an album cover, etc) 'predicting' 911 (not really predicting it, just coincidentally having the Twin Towers removed from the landscape, etc). 'Under Pressure' itself: its final mix took place in New York on the 11th of September 1981. 'Burns a building down' indeed. - The 'Ziggy' cover featuring a sign reading 'K. West' and starting off with a (great) song titled 'Five Years'. Five years later (missing the same exact date by a week and a half or so), Kanye West was born. - When Lady Di died, a reporter commented on what the media would make of someone like Mother Teresa passing away. Guess who died a few days later! So, no, the fact Mr K got arrested in October doesn't mean at all that it was physically impossible to write a song about his ship before that. It's not like he was an unknown civilian up to that point anyway... and it's not like they couldn't have bumped into him (or his ship).

emrabt wrote: I know it's a leap but i wonder if I Want It All was being considered for Back to Light.

Chopin1995 wrote:

Sebastian wrote:

Chopin1995 wrote: 'Khashoggi's Ship' was written after October 88 (Khashoggi was arrested at the end of October 88).

That doesn't prove a thing. Khashoggi was already famous before that and it may have been a coincidence that they wrote a song name-dropping him and nine months or so later he was arrested. Sometimes coincidences do take place: - BGT Series 3 using a lot of MJ songs for scene transitions and stuff. MJ would pass away a month or so later. - A number of things (films, an album cover, etc) 'predicting' 911 (not really predicting it, just coincidentally having the Twin Towers removed from the landscape, etc). 'Under Pressure' itself: its final mix took place in New York on the 11th of September 1981. 'Burns a building down' indeed. - The 'Ziggy' cover featuring a sign reading 'K. West' and starting off with a (great) song titled 'Five Years'. Five years later (missing the same exact date by a week and a half or so), Kanye West was born. - When Lady Di died, a reporter commented on what the media would make of someone like Mother Teresa passing away. Guess who died a few days later! So, no, the fact Mr K got arrested in October doesn't mean at all that it was physically impossible to write a song about his ship before that. It's not like he was an unknown civilian up to that point anyway... and it's not like they couldn't have bumped into him (or his ship).

But the arrest was mentioned in the song: 'Wanted to get me I said go away I said kiss my ass honey He pulled out a gun wanted to arrest me I said uh uh uh babe' Now the question is if that arrest was a reference to what happened in Oct 1988 or it is just a coincidence like you say?

djcamper wrote: Had the band already started to work on Innuendo by the time The Miracle video was shot?

Chopin1995 wrote: 1. I Want It All - 22nd April 89 (Elstree Studios) 2. Breakthru - June 89 (Nene Valley Railway, Cambridgeshire) 5. The Miracle - 23rd November 1989 (Elstree Studios)

djcamper wrote: Had the band already started to work on Innuendo by the time The Miracle video was shot?

The Real Wizard wrote:

Chopin1995 wrote: 1. I Want It All - 22nd April 89 (Elstree Studios) 2. Breakthru - June 89 (Nene Valley Railway, Cambridgeshire) 5. The Miracle - 23rd November 1989 (Elstree Studios)

I've seen both March 22 and April 22 for I Want It All. Not sure which it is. Breakthru was shot on June 12 and 13. And wasn't The Miracle was November 24 ? I've always found it kind of poetic that the video for his most optimistic song was filmed two years to the day before he died.

Sebastian wrote: Indeed, the lyric seems to be coincidental (the fact it mentions an arrest or somebody wanting to arrest him doesn't necessarily mean he was referring to Ednan's arrest). But even if it were, they could've easily added that at a later stage and had Frederick re-record that line. 'The Dark' took Brian over a decade to complete, so 'Khashoggi's Ship' could've easily been started in January (or any other month) and finished off in or after October.

Chopin1995 wrote: And Seb, it was Adnan not Ednan and certainly not Ednanerick! :p

Chopin1995 wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

Chopin1995 wrote: 1. I Want It All - 22nd April 89 (Elstree Studios) 2. Breakthru - June 89 (Nene Valley Railway, Cambridgeshire) 5. The Miracle - 23rd November 1989 (Elstree Studios)

I've seen both March 22 and April 22 for I Want It All. Not sure which it is. Breakthru was shot on June 12 and 13. And wasn't The Miracle was November 24 ? I've always found it kind of poetic that the video for his most optimistic song was filmed two years to the day before he died.

1. Very interesting thing you mentioned because I've seen March 22 and April 22 date too. I'll do some research soon. I want to know this stuff. 2. Huge thanks for the date of Breakthru video. I don't know where on earth did you find it! 3, Yes, until today I always thought that The Miracle was done on Nov 24 for some reason but Nov 23 seems the date which appears everywhere where I checked. But I'm unsure about it. More research required here.

Sebastian wrote:

Chopin1995 wrote: And Seb, it was Adnan not Ednan and certainly not Ednanerick! :p

Thanks. Corrected now. To be fair, Ednan was Adnan's favourite nickname.

Biggus Dickus wrote:

Chopin1995 wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

Chopin1995 wrote: 1. I Want It All - 22nd April 89 (Elstree Studios) 2. Breakthru - June 89 (Nene Valley Railway, Cambridgeshire) 5. The Miracle - 23rd November 1989 (Elstree Studios)

I've seen both March 22 and April 22 for I Want It All. Not sure which it is. Breakthru was shot on June 12 and 13. And wasn't The Miracle was November 24 ? I've always found it kind of poetic that the video for his most optimistic song was filmed two years to the day before he died.

1. Very interesting thing you mentioned because I've seen March 22 and April 22 date too. I'll do some research soon. I want to know this stuff. 2. Huge thanks for the date of Breakthru video. I don't know where on earth did you find it! 3, Yes, until today I always thought that The Miracle was done on Nov 24 for some reason but Nov 23 seems the date which appears everywhere where I checked. But I'm unsure about it. More research required here.

I've got no real knowledge on this but I'd say IWIA was filmed in March instead of April. The single was released in 2nd of May so it would have been a tight squeeze to get the video ready by the time of the single release, if it had been filmed in April. Just my two cents.

Chopin1995 wrote: Didn't know that.

Sebastian wrote:

Chopin1995 wrote: Didn't know that.

Neither did I, until I made it up. But making stuff up was Frederick's favourite activity.

Biggest Band On The Planet wrote: In some of the out takes for I want it all its very clear that Freddie was ill at that point.

Chopin1995 wrote:

Biggus Dickus wrote:

Chopin1995 wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

Chopin1995 wrote: 1. I Want It All - 22nd April 89 (Elstree Studios) 2. Breakthru - June 89 (Nene Valley Railway, Cambridgeshire) 5. The Miracle - 23rd November 1989 (Elstree Studios)

I've seen both March 22 and April 22 for I Want It All. Not sure which it is. Breakthru was shot on June 12 and 13. And wasn't The Miracle was November 24 ? I've always found it kind of poetic that the video for his most optimistic song was filmed two years to the day before he died.

1. Very interesting thing you mentioned because I've seen March 22 and April 22 date too. I'll do some research soon. I want to know this stuff. 2. Huge thanks for the date of Breakthru video. I don't know where on earth did you find it! 3, Yes, until today I always thought that The Miracle was done on Nov 24 for some reason but Nov 23 seems the date which appears everywhere where I checked. But I'm unsure about it. More research required here.

I've got no real knowledge on this but I'd say IWIA was filmed in March instead of April. The single was released in 2nd of May so it would have been a tight squeeze to get the video ready by the time of the single release, if it had been filmed in April. Just my two cents.

I was trying to think in the same way but Scandal was released on 9th October and The Miracle on 27th November, just a few days after the video shooting.

john bodega wrote: Don't wanna sound obsessive enough to notice these things but I think he looks equally ill in all of the Miracle videos. But to be honest, all four of the band members do. 80's rock video makeup could get downright excessive - I think Breakthru is the closest they come to looking like a healthy bunch of chaps, and that's probably because they were out in the sun.