QueenZone discussion #1511337

OhioMustapha wrote: They know that a portion of the people wasting their money for them are actually fans that know the song Chinese Torture. They are also aware that their setlist is mainly hits, aside from Tear It Up and Get Down Make Love. 2 lesser known songs? Come on! At least give us fans stuff like Cool Cat, Dead On Time, Long Away, Drowse, Princes Of The Universe, Gimme The Prize, Dont Try Suicide, or Dancer. LISTEN TO YOUR ACTUAL FANS, NOT JUST THE 2,500 PEOPLE THAT HAVE GREATEST HITS 1 AND 2.

OhioMustapha wrote: well there are other people that havent got the chance to see them and are really big fans, and they only really play hits so they will never have the chance to hear their favorite song live :<<<

The Real Wizard wrote: Try 250. They dropped two songs from News Of The World, one of their biggest albums in the US, because they were getting blank faces from the front rows. Queen have been a hits band since 1980. It's time for that 1% of Queen fans who know the early albums to accept it.

The Real Wizard wrote: Try 250. They dropped two songs from News Of The World, one of their biggest albums in the US, because they were getting blank faces from the front rows. Queen have been a hits band since 1980. It's time for that 1% of Queen fans who know the early albums to accept it.

Mr Mercury wrote: If Brian and Roger and to a lesser extent Adam had bothered to continue with those songs, then a lot more of those people that didnt know them would have got to know those songs. Maybe then those people would have delved deeper into Queen's back catalogue.

runner_70 wrote: What is there to enjoy seeing Maylor embarrassing themselves with this hack

runner_70 wrote: Loads of pple go to Beyonce or Britney too-they are crap as well. True Queen fans stay away from this embarrassing mess as far as possible. Maylor are making a fool out of themselves with this idiot

FriedChicken wrote: Sure I'd love to see them play Tenement Funster, Long Away and Liar. But I know it won't happen because only a very small percentage knows these songs. I'm sure there are people who would call themselves a fan who don't know this stuff very well. I would call myself a Beatles fan. But when I go to see Paul McCartney and he's playing the deeper solo cuts I rather have him play All My Loving, because i don't know his lesser known solo work by heart.

runner_70 wrote: Why are we making a fool of ourselves if we hate QAL? There are more haters around than those who love this crap. We are just the ones voicing our opinions. Those that hate QAL stay away ffrom this mess as far as possible. Look at the QOL forums.- Even the mods there hat e QAL - they just dont comment unlike us. Whats the big deal then. Selling tickets does not mean quality. And the ticket sales are going down - see the lowering of the prices for this festival. Embarrassing. I hate Lamebird and have no problem to voice my opinion,

Togg wrote: runner_70 believes true Queen fans stay away from the gigs, yet the front of stage area is stuffed with hundreds of people who are in the fan club and have been since the 70's, go to conventions and attend all the gigs, at the O2 this week the entire front section had been on the crazy tour, with some going back as far as the first Hyde Park gig. Queen are the ONLY band I know that can sell out massive tours 27 years after the lead singer dies.... they don't seem to be doing too bad. Sadly the internet brings out the pinheads that like to troll from there bedrooms but it would seem it's the same 3-4 people all the time, rather funny really

runner_70 wrote: You either made this crap story up or you met the dumbest Queen fans around ever

snifflese wrote: Well, if your English were up to it, you would see there are hundreds of stories like that from real Queen fans on the internet. Just because you don't think so, doesn't mean squat. This is a post from a long time Queen only fan on Queenonline. He has always been cordial about his opinions, but never really felt QAL and Adam were quite the thing for him. He was always pleasant and extremely nice, unlike you two here And I Quote: "Having recently viewed many of the uploaded QAL clips on YouTube, I have to confess that I believe this outing their best yet. And I do not mean just in terms of the production side of things or set list, etc. I mean more in the sense that they have really nailed it as a group. They seem more natural now and have really grown into something quite special. I am a diehard. Yet I have always remained open-minded about QAL. And I have always stated that they are not for me, but good luck to all those who do dig them. Now I feel as if I would actually go and watch them perform - which I would never have done before. The music is the thing that does it...but, boy, does it help that it is performed by two absolute musical legends who can still play on fire and a lead singer with a voice that is in a class of its own (and I say that as a Freddie worshipper). Adam's vocals on this tour (well, the clips I have seen) are out of this world and - at times - quite, quite beautiful. Also, whereas before I saw Queen and QAL as two very separate identities, I now see them more connected. Quite simply, it is the continuation of a legacy fronted by a man who has earnt his right to be up there on that stage singing those songs. Adam really has become part of the Queen family." You can read so many things like this on the internet, but you two are so thick and stubborn that you don't believe it. Your opinion is your own, but you can't accuse others or lying and making stuff up because we don't have to. There are lots of Queen fans now changing their minds about the band and that at least, you need to accept. By the way you can check this out because it is on the Queenonlines message board and it is from recently, so you can't say it is made up. You can easily find it, I am sure!

runner_70 wrote: FAct is they are a sad coverband - they stand against everything that Queen once stood for. Being creative, a daring musical force. Nowadays they hire a casting muppet, go on endless nostagia tours playing the tired hits and on top they is a lousy casting goat who is destroying the songs racht night he opens his ugly fat moout. That is what Queen plus Goat is in 2018. Sad..... And ending up in Vegas is the pinnacle of this debacle

runner_70 wrote: Just valid points - they are a nostalgia act whose last real album is from 1991.

Sealion wrote: Correct me, if I‘m wrong. But MY last Queen album is from 1995.

Sealion wrote: Correct me, if I‘m wrong. But MY last Queen album is from 1995.

SweetCaroline wrote: When I was at QOL our “friendly” moderater was so against Adam he wouldn’t even watch a video let alone go to a live show! Too late when Brian and Roger (and Spike) are no longer able to do it!

SweetCaroline wrote: Yup, because “some people” are ridiculous!

SweetCaroline wrote: By the way it really is not a big deal to me who does or does not like the QAL collaboration, but THEY don’t like the people who do like QAL and have chased most of them away because they resent hearing anything positive about it.

dave4343palace wrote: Please don't encourage her to go back to QOL, its been bliss. What we need is fd to return over there to get things back to pre CNB days and we can just pretend it was all a bad dream!

Iron Butterfly wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Yup, because “some people” are ridiculous!

Are you ever hoping to go back to QOL? Cause you aren't helping yourself. You have more than a beef with someone because that someone didn't want to watch or go to Q+AL concerts? Why is is so important to you again? Especially since you have said you don't listen to Adele and Sam Smith and wouldn't go to their concerts. Come on, sweetcaroline, it's not that big of deal about if some people don't listen/watch or go to Q+AL. Only to you it's a big deal, and I don't get it.

Raf wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Yup, because “some people” are ridiculous!

Are you ever hoping to go back to QOL? Cause you aren't helping yourself. You have more than a beef with someone because that someone didn't want to watch or go to Q+AL concerts? Why is is so important to you again? Especially since you have said you don't listen to Adele and Sam Smith and wouldn't go to their concerts. Come on, sweetcaroline, it's not that big of deal about if some people don't listen/watch or go to Q+AL. Only to you it's a big deal, and I don't get it.

It isn't that big of a deal about if some people listen/watch or go to Q+AL. But you guys are making this forum a living hell, ruining potentially interesting discussions, annoying people who are sharing their favorite moments from the recent tours or discussing possible ideas for the collaboration etc. You and a couple of other people are the ones coming to a QUEEN + ADAM LAMBERT forum to talk about how great it is NOT to listen to them. Come on, give us all a break, for fuck's sake. There's plenty of other forums here on Queenzone, not to mention all the other forums, Facebook groups etc where you can go and just talk about how great Freddie was etc (and some of us will gladly join you). Stop making a big deal about people enjoying something. Brian and Roger ARE touring under the name Queen, Adam Lambert is their frontman and people are enjoying it. Don't like it? Don't buy it. It's that simple.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Raf wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Yup, because “some people” are ridiculous!

Are you ever hoping to go back to QOL? Cause you aren't helping yourself. You have more than a beef with someone because that someone didn't want to watch or go to Q+AL concerts? Why is is so important to you again? Especially since you have said you don't listen to Adele and Sam Smith and wouldn't go to their concerts. Come on, sweetcaroline, it's not that big of deal about if some people don't listen/watch or go to Q+AL. Only to you it's a big deal, and I don't get it.

It isn't that big of a deal about if some people listen/watch or go to Q+AL. But you guys are making this forum a living hell, ruining potentially interesting discussions, annoying people who are sharing their favorite moments from the recent tours or discussing possible ideas for the collaboration etc. You and a couple of other people are the ones coming to a QUEEN + ADAM LAMBERT forum to talk about how great it is NOT to listen to them. Come on, give us all a break, for fuck's sake. There's plenty of other forums here on Queenzone, not to mention all the other forums, Facebook groups etc where you can go and just talk about how great Freddie was etc (and some of us will gladly join you). Stop making a big deal about people enjoying something. Brian and Roger ARE touring under the name Queen, Adam Lambert is their frontman and people are enjoying it. Don't like it? Don't buy it. It's that simple.

Where did I say it's great if people don't listen, watch or go to Q+AL? I'm saying it's people's choice if they go or not. I have never had a problem with people who enjoy Q+AL...or not. I'm happy for the ones who enjoy it. If people don't watch, listen or attend Q+AL that's their choice. That's what I've been saying. I don't know why sweetcaroline has brought up here what she did about a person on QOL not watching or attending a Q+AL show. It makes it look like she still has a beef about that and QOL. I doubt she is helping herself if she ever goes back to QOL. And I say again, if she does go back over , she owes people a big apology or at leS admit that she was wrong when she posted AL isn't accepted on QOL because he is gay. But right. It's me who ruins discussions. Another person who has rarely interacted with me feels that way. Alrighty then.

SweetCaroline wrote: Icy doesn’t like me posting positive articles and tweets but she thinks posting pages and pages of negative gripes about Adam and QAL and which songs they should or should not be performing is just fine. I posted a Guardian article on the Freddie biopic thread at QOL that said the biopic doesn’t mention the gay part of Freddie’s life. I mentioned that Adam had to cope with similar criticism and the mod moved the post to the Adam Lambert thread. He can’t stand any mention of Adam which is his problem, not mine. I don’t owe anyone an apology for anything over there. Icy fought with every QAL fan there and here because she thinks that only her “POV” matters!

Sealion wrote: @SweetCaroline We all know these stories. BOTH of you have been telling them again and again. And no, I‘m still not interested in your discussions, aka fights. It would be really nice, if one could discuss the London shows for example. I spent an awesome night at Wembley on Monday for instance. But all would possibly end with @IronButterfly‘s comment, that“Lambert is just riding someone‘s coattails“. Yes, you are a big part of the problem in this forum as well. Especially since you don‘t get it, when people tell you. And while I‘m at it: Can someone reign in that runner70? He‘s a completely sick moron, who contributes nothing but hate.

Raf wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Raf wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Yup, because “some people” are ridiculous!

Are you ever hoping to go back to QOL? Cause you aren't helping yourself. You have more than a beef with someone because that someone didn't want to watch or go to Q+AL concerts? Why is is so important to you again? Especially since you have said you don't listen to Adele and Sam Smith and wouldn't go to their concerts. Come on, sweetcaroline, it's not that big of deal about if some people don't listen/watch or go to Q+AL. Only to you it's a big deal, and I don't get it.

It isn't that big of a deal about if some people listen/watch or go to Q+AL. But you guys are making this forum a living hell, ruining potentially interesting discussions, annoying people who are sharing their favorite moments from the recent tours or discussing possible ideas for the collaboration etc. You and a couple of other people are the ones coming to a QUEEN + ADAM LAMBERT forum to talk about how great it is NOT to listen to them. Come on, give us all a break, for fuck's sake. There's plenty of other forums here on Queenzone, not to mention all the other forums, Facebook groups etc where you can go and just talk about how great Freddie was etc (and some of us will gladly join you). Stop making a big deal about people enjoying something. Brian and Roger ARE touring under the name Queen, Adam Lambert is their frontman and people are enjoying it. Don't like it? Don't buy it. It's that simple.

Where did I say it's great if people don't listen, watch or go to Q+AL? I'm saying it's people's choice if they go or not. I have never had a problem with people who enjoy Q+AL...or not. I'm happy for the ones who enjoy it. If people don't watch, listen or attend Q+AL that's their choice. That's what I've been saying. I don't know why sweetcaroline has brought up here what she did about a person on QOL not watching or attending a Q+AL show. It makes it look like she still has a beef about that and QOL. I doubt she is helping herself if she ever goes back to QOL. And I say again, if she does go back over , she owes people a big apology or at leS admit that she was wrong when she posted AL isn't accepted on QOL because he is gay. But right. It's me who ruins discussions. Another person who has rarely interacted with me feels that way. Alrighty then.

You think it's ok if people go or not, yet you're on EVERY thread on this forum either arguing with sweetcaroline or talking about how "Lamebert" or whatever isn't the same as Freddie. If you have some personal issue with sweetcaroline, you two can swap PMs rather than fight here. If you're ok with people enjoying QAL, then you don't need to be here, on a forum made for fans of the collaboration talking on every single thread about how you dislike it.

Sealion wrote: @IronButterfly (I can‘t find the quote-function in this forum.) I do believe you, that you would discuss the show with me. The problem is: The moment when SweetCaroline (or maybe Snifflese) step into the discussion, it‘s over. It happens every fucking time. And every fucking time, she posts a link, you call her out. Why? Nobody gets harmed by her posts. Yes, happystar and runner do it as well, but they are just trolls. But you do it as well. And you do it for years, long before the others appeared on this forum. You should take notice, that although I don‘t write often, I read in this forum almost on a Daily basis for more than2 years. You can play nice and I think, I got lucky in this, that I haven‘t stepped onto your toes until today. ;-) But you are stubborn and can get really nasty as well. And unfortunately the latter happens too often. And Raf is right, that your comments towards Q+AL are negative. You are slamming their singer on a regular basis.

Raf wrote: There's nothing wrong with some criticism now and then - even many diehard QAL fans have complained, for instance, about the repetitive setlists. Or sometimes they'll discuss how certain songs simply didn't work on Adam's voice. But they'll also discuss how certain songs work just so damn well and how certain parts of the show are pretty much legendary. Just like on the other "normal" Queen forums people will sometimes bash Hot Space, moan about Delilah kinda ruining Innuendo etc, but they are also many healthy, fun and constructive conversations about Queen in general. That's one of the points where we could draw the line between you and "normal" users on this forum: you seem to be here ONLY to diss Adam. The other problem - which I think is the worst of them - is the fact that you do it on EVERY SINGLE THREAD. For fuck's sake, if you want to list everything you hate about QAL, you can start a thread about it. There's no point in doing it even on a thread where a guy asks what to expect from the concert or on a thread meant just to share videos. And once again I insist, if you have issues with SweetCaroline because of whatever happened on QOL, go discuss that with her on QOL or on private. Stop ruining the topics where we, fans, want to see what's been going on in the past few concerts or share our excitement over the next concerts. I'm sorry if you're unhappy with Brian and Roger, but really, your behaviour isn't hurting them. It's just pissing off fellow Queen fans who expect to see them live and just want to talk with someone else who understands how excited they are about it.