liveistheshow 13.06.2018 10:09 |
Hey there, I am a Queen-Fan since 1991...a friend of mine copied me all the albums on tapes, my first CD ever was the "Greatest Hits 2" = ) So far I always thought it would be better not to see Queen+Lambert live, since it could spoil my idea of Queen - being just 50 % of the Band. This changed at a Foo Fighters concert, where they played "Under Pressure". I was captured, though the singing of the drummer seemed awkward sometimes. Now on instinct I ordered tickets for the show in Hamburg..thinking if Foo Fighters could rock a Queen-Song, maybe 50 % of orginal-Queen surely couldnt do worse. Any advice for the concert ahead? Should I be prepared in any way? Havent listened to any Concert-Clips or songs so far.. all the best. |
rockchic65 13.06.2018 10:36 |
liveistheshow wrote: Hey there, I am a Queen-Fan since 1991...a friend of mine copied me all the albums on tapes, my first CD ever was the "Greatest Hits 2" = ) So far I always thought it would be better not to see Queen+Lambert live, since it could spoil my idea of Queen - being just 50 % of the Band. This changed at a Foo Fighters concert, where they played "Under Pressure". I was captured, though the singing of the drummer seemed awkward sometimes. Now on instinct I ordered tickets for the show in Hamburg..thinking if Foo Fighters could rock a Queen-Song, maybe 50 % of orginal-Queen surely couldnt do worse. Any advice for the concert ahead? Should I be prepared in any way? Havent listened to any Concert-Clips or songs so far.. all the best.Since you've already bought tickets I would just do what you've already done and avoid watching any clips so that you don't go with any preconceived ideas about the show. I saw them last November and it was an amazing show, the staging, lights, the way they've arranged the show is brilliant. The other main thing is to just think of it as a celebration of Queen's music with a brilliant singer who does it his own way and doesn't try to sound like or imitate Freddie. |
cmsdrums 13.06.2018 11:21 |
rockchic65 wrote:Exactly this - if you love Queen's music, are invested emotionally to some degree with what the band members and their music mean to you, and want to hear Brian's glorious and iconic guitar singing sweetly in your ears then you're onto a winner!liveistheshow wrote: Hey there, I am a Queen-Fan since 1991...a friend of mine copied me all the albums on tapes, my first CD ever was the "Greatest Hits 2" = ) So far I always thought it would be better not to see Queen+Lambert live, since it could spoil my idea of Queen - being just 50 % of the Band. This changed at a Foo Fighters concert, where they played "Under Pressure". I was captured, though the singing of the drummer seemed awkward sometimes. Now on instinct I ordered tickets for the show in Hamburg..thinking if Foo Fighters could rock a Queen-Song, maybe 50 % of orginal-Queen surely couldnt do worse. Any advice for the concert ahead? Should I be prepared in any way? Havent listened to any Concert-Clips or songs so far.. all the best.Since you've already bought tickets I would just do what you've already done and avoid watching any clips so that you don't go with any preconceived ideas about the show. I saw them last November and it was an amazing show, the staging, lights, the way they've arranged the show is brilliant. The other main thing is to just think of it as a celebration of Queen's music with a brilliant singer who does it his own way and doesn't try to sound like or imitate Freddie. |
stevelondon20 13.06.2018 11:24 |
Couldn't agree more with the 2 comments above. |
SweetCaroline 13.06.2018 13:24 |
I get criticized for saying this but I have seen them LIVE 3 times and they are spectacular! |
Vocal harmony 13.06.2018 16:34 |
I agree with all the above. You've got the tickets so go. It's a phenomenal production and it's a version of Queen that works for the present. Great that you haven't youtubed anything, you'll get the full impact and surprise of it all. You said you had the albums taped and the first CD out had was greatest hits. Do You Have News Of The World, it's worth checking the cover art art work if you haven't got II, it's a great cover. |
snifflese 13.06.2018 18:19 |
I hope you go and have a ball. As long as it is Roger and Brian, you will get a good taste of Queen. For me it is Brian's iconic guitar playing and I get a kick out of the two old rockers just kicking butt. The show is phenomenal with all the lights and the stage production in general. Adam does a wonderful job interpreting the music. I would be surprised if you were disappointed, but let us know your reaction. I am looking forward to hearing your critique Wish I were going with you! We were stationed in a tiny dorf near the Danish border in the late 1970's. My husband flew with a German fighter squadron. It was one of our best tours! I speak pretty fluent German, so it was wonderful for me. We have managed to get back twice to Germany in the last 7 years and were there with our son and his wife this past summer. That son was born in a German hospital in Flensburg so he wanted to see where he was "geboren". He always says that and we have to chuckle. I am a huge fan of Germany and hope to go again in the future! Really hope you have lots of fun at the concert!! |
Star* 13.06.2018 18:22 |
Liveistheshow : Expect the worst mate and yes Queen is watered down like orange juice and Adam Lambert will make the show sound like some sort of panto but its your opinion when you see this pathetic cheesy show, personally i would just stick to your Cds and savour the memories because lets face it Queen have lost the magic a long time ago when Fred & John vanished. |
rockchic65 13.06.2018 18:41 |
happystar wrote: Liveistheshow : Expect the worst mate and yes Queen is watered down like orange juice and Adam Lambert will make the show sound like some sort of panto but its your opinion when you see this pathetic cheesy show, personally i would just stick to your Cds and savour the memories because lets face it Queen have lost the magic a long time ago when Fred & John vanished.Just wondering when you saw them live, didn't realize you'd actually been to a show? |
The Real Wizard 13.06.2018 18:55 |
It's a cross between rock and musical theatre. The production, pacing, and choreography of the show are top notch. Old songs presented in a very contemporary way. Unless you're an absolute curmudgeon or hoping for someone to pull off a resurrection, you're bound to have a great time. |
rockchic65 13.06.2018 19:00 |
The Real Wizard wrote: It's a cross between rock and musical theatre. The production, pacing, and choreography of the show are top notch. Old songs presented in a very contemporary way. Unless you're an absolute curmudgeon or hoping for someone to pull off a resurrection, you're bound to have a great time.That's exactly how I'd describe it, part rock gig, part theater show, I absolutely loved it and like you say the production is incredible, they really have gone all out on that. |
runner_70 13.06.2018 19:48 |
If you're a real Queen fan you should stay as far away as you possibly can from this tragedy. If you like Queen songs being destroyed, the might Freddie being mocked with a singing goat looking like a fat clown with a coronet singing Queen songs with Celien Dion Vibrato then you have to give it a go. It's up to you. Don't say we did not warn you. QAL has nothing to do with Queen. It is not even a bad parody. |
Iron Butterfly 13.06.2018 20:05 |
If it were me, I'd think I'd want to watch some videos of past shows before going. |
rockchic65 13.06.2018 20:08 |
runner_70 wrote: If you're a real Queen fan you should stay as far away as you possibly can from this tragedy. If you like Queen songs being destroyed, the might Freddie being mocked with a singing goat looking like a fat clown with a coronet singing Queen songs with Celien Dion Vibrato then you have to give it a go. It's up to you. Don't say we did not warn you. QAL has nothing to do with Queen. It is not even a bad parody.Oh do stop spouting your nonsense, various people who've been to a show have just said what it's like but you, who haven't been to a live show, apparently know better. The best thing he can do is ignore you and happystar since you are both determined to contradict anyone who enjoys these shows and just see for himself. It's not Queen, we all know that but it doesn't make it bad, just different, and as you well know loads of "real Queen fans" are loving it. |
rockchic65 13.06.2018 20:12 |
Iron Butterfly wrote: If it were me, I'd think I'd want to watch some videos of past shows before going.I'd say that's a bad idea for anyone who hasn't seen the vids already. The vids are done mostly by Adam's fans, they focus very close up on everything he does at every minute. Brian does a guitar solo in a song but unless he's stood next to Adam you will very rarely see it. They zoom right up to the stage, every expression and everything Adam does is up front and center, that's a million miles away from the experience of actually being at the show. I was already a fan of Adam but if I hadn't been I could have been put off by that, and it was so totally different actually being there. |
SweetCaroline 13.06.2018 20:21 |
Don’t listen to the naysayers! It is amazing, fantastic, spectacular! |
Iron Butterfly 13.06.2018 20:23 |
rockchic65 wrote:Oh, I know what some of those videos are like.Iron Butterfly wrote: If it were me, I'd think I'd want to watch some videos of past shows before going.I'd say that's a bad idea for anyone who hasn't seen the vids already. The vids are done mostly by Adam's fans, they focus very close up on everything he does at every minute. Brian does a guitar solo in a song but unless he's stood next to Adam you will very rarely see it. They zoom right up to the stage, every expression and everything Adam does is up front and center, that's a million miles away from the experience of actually being at the show. I was already a fan of Adam but if I hadn't been I could have been put off by that, and it was so totally different actually being there. I do watch the shows for Brian and Roger...and yes, sometimes they are rarely seen. And that's awful, IMO. |
The Real Wizard 13.06.2018 20:41 |
Iron Butterfly wrote:That won't be the case in Europe.rockchic65 wrote:Oh, I know what some of those videos are like. I do watch the shows for Brian and Roger...and yes, sometimes they are rarely seen. And that's awful, IMO.Iron Butterfly wrote: If it were me, I'd think I'd want to watch some videos of past shows before going.I'd say that's a bad idea for anyone who hasn't seen the vids already. The vids are done mostly by Adam's fans, they focus very close up on everything he does at every minute. Brian does a guitar solo in a song but unless he's stood next to Adam you will very rarely see it. They zoom right up to the stage, every expression and everything Adam does is up front and center, that's a million miles away from the experience of actually being at the show. I was already a fan of Adam but if I hadn't been I could have been put off by that, and it was so totally different actually being there. Brian and Roger could tour with a cardboard cutout of Justin Bieber, and they would still sell out stadiums. Adam Lambert may matter in North America, but elsewhere he's just the condiment to the main dish. |
rockchic65 13.06.2018 20:42 |
Iron Butterfly wrote:I never video shows, I'd much rather just be in the moment so I can't really complain about how they do them but it doesn't really show what it's actually like to be there.rockchic65 wrote:Oh, I know what some of those videos are like. I do watch the shows for Brian and Roger...and yes, sometimes they are rarely seen. And that's awful, IMO.Iron Butterfly wrote: If it were me, I'd think I'd want to watch some videos of past shows before going.I'd say that's a bad idea for anyone who hasn't seen the vids already. The vids are done mostly by Adam's fans, they focus very close up on everything he does at every minute. Brian does a guitar solo in a song but unless he's stood next to Adam you will very rarely see it. They zoom right up to the stage, every expression and everything Adam does is up front and center, that's a million miles away from the experience of actually being at the show. I was already a fan of Adam but if I hadn't been I could have been put off by that, and it was so totally different actually being there. |
SweetCaroline 13.06.2018 20:42 |
They were seen today, beautifully, on the live closeup feed of the whole show! Did you watch? |
Iron Butterfly 13.06.2018 22:22 |
The Real Wizard wrote:I don't think he matters as much in North America as some people think. He will be known as the American Idol runner up and for so so so albums. Mind you, I like the two those albums.Iron Butterfly wrote:That won't be the case in Europe. Brian and Roger could tour with a cardboard cutout of Justin Bieber, and they would still sell out stadiums. Adam Lambert may matter in North America, but elsewhere he's just the condiment to the main dish.rockchic65 wrote:Oh, I know what some of those videos are like. I do watch the shows for Brian and Roger...and yes, sometimes they are rarely seen. And that's awful, IMO.Iron Butterfly wrote: If it were me, I'd think I'd want to watch some videos of past shows before going.I'd say that's a bad idea for anyone who hasn't seen the vids already. The vids are done mostly by Adam's fans, they focus very close up on everything he does at every minute. Brian does a guitar solo in a song but unless he's stood next to Adam you will very rarely see it. They zoom right up to the stage, every expression and everything Adam does is up front and center, that's a million miles away from the experience of actually being at the show. I was already a fan of Adam but if I hadn't been I could have been put off by that, and it was so totally different actually being there. |
Iron Butterfly 13.06.2018 22:25 |
rockchic65 wrote:Some songs I'd rather hear than see, other songs I'd rather see and hear if that makes sense. I've listened to TIU more than I watched it so far. I still think it's pretty blah, and not good as an opening.Iron Butterfly wrote:I never video shows, I'd much rather just be in the moment so I can't really complain about how they do them but it doesn't really show what it's actually like to be there.rockchic65 wrote:Oh, I know what some of those videos are like. I do watch the shows for Brian and Roger...and yes, sometimes they are rarely seen. And that's awful, IMO.Iron Butterfly wrote: If it were me, I'd think I'd want to watch some videos of past shows before going.I'd say that's a bad idea for anyone who hasn't seen the vids already. The vids are done mostly by Adam's fans, they focus very close up on everything he does at every minute. Brian does a guitar solo in a song but unless he's stood next to Adam you will very rarely see it. They zoom right up to the stage, every expression and everything Adam does is up front and center, that's a million miles away from the experience of actually being at the show. I was already a fan of Adam but if I hadn't been I could have been put off by that, and it was so totally different actually being there. IMO. |
Star* 14.06.2018 10:38 |
Rockchic: The majority of ardent Queen fans do not attend the shows now it is all girls screaming after the goat Lambert. Runner is correct about this been a car crash, your all deluded if you think that is a great show, and just off the record i do not have to go to a show to see its crap. Seen Lambert on TV with May & Taylor and i was truly sickened to my stomach. |
SweetCaroline 14.06.2018 14:46 |
happystar, you are dead wrong! I have watched taped videos and live periscopes, listened to live audios and attended 3 live QAL shows. Nothing can prepare you for the all encompassing, all consuming majestic experience of being physically in a huge arena with that powerful music and awesome light display hitting all of your senses at the same time. It is so mesmerizing I cannot imagine anyone leaving their seat or standing spot until the last strains of God Save The Queen have been played and even then it takes awhile to come back down to earth! |
runner_70 14.06.2018 16:29 |
I could not stomach Lamebird for more than 10 seconds when he starts yodeling with his annoying voice. The guy is a bloody disgrace to Queen music |
rockchic65 14.06.2018 16:31 |
happystar wrote: Rockchic: The majority of ardent Queen fans do not attend the shows now it is all girls screaming after the goat Lambert. Runner is correct about this been a car crash, your all deluded if you think that is a great show, and just off the record i do not have to go to a show to see its crap. Seen Lambert on TV with May & Taylor and i was truly sickened to my stomach.That's your opinion, not shared by all the ardent Queen fans, Male & Female who do go to the shows. No car crash, just amazing music, played and sung brilliantly and everyone having a great time. |
rockchic65 14.06.2018 16:34 |
runner_70 wrote: I could not stomach Lamebird for more than 10 seconds when he starts yodeling with his annoying voice. The guy is a bloody disgrace to Queen musicAgain just one opinion. There's a few who won't like it but then there are surprisingly a few people who don't like Queen and didn't like Freddie. Majority are loving these shows though, they wouldn't still be touring six years later if they weren't, it wouldn't be viable. |
SweetCaroline 14.06.2018 16:49 |
Adam: “We’ve become a family” link |
Sealion 14.06.2018 16:54 |
My advice: Just go and enjoy the show! Be open minded and they will rock you. I‘m just back from yesterday‘s show in Cologne and I would even say, this show is better than the last one, thatI saw in 2017. The whole arena went nuts and ALL people, even the nosebleeds, were on their feet, and not only for the encore or the last song. Brian and Roger looked and sounded great. And I have to say (without Spoiler): the new beginning of the show really ROCKS! It‘s a big party with and for Queen with some very emotional moments. The show is huge and in my opinion bigger and better as ever before. (Written by a fan, who did saw Queen with Freddie). I loved it! |
The Real Wizard 14.06.2018 16:59 |
happystar wrote: The majority of ardent Queen fans do not attend the shows now it is all girls screaming after the goat Lambert.Having seen three shows, I can attest that it was about 90% Queen fans filling up the arenas. Classic rock shows are largely people in their 50s and 60s, and there were way more Queen t-shirts than Adam Lambert ones. But of course you know better, having not attended shows and all... |
Sealion 14.06.2018 17:06 |
^ I would even say, that it‘s at least 90% Queen fans. And at least 50% men. Could be more. Agewise, you find many Queen-fans from Freddie’s times, but also younger ones. |
The Real Wizard 14.06.2018 17:54 |
SweetCaroline wrote: link“Well, yeah, but it was almost in fashion to be [sexually] ambiguous in the ’70s. It was cool to be effeminate, androgynous. Is he? Isn’t he? That was all very rock ‘n’ roll. Bowie was doing it. Freddie, Mick Jagger. It was a product of the time. People were post-free-love’60s. There was a lot of partying going on, a lot of sex, a lot of rock ‘n’ roll. Then the Reagan administration came in. Everything was every conservative, with reforms like The War On Drugs. And then AIDS hit; everyone freaked the fuck out. It made all of that very dangerous and very wrong. Everyone clammed up quite a lot. Look at George Michael – he was fighting it his whole career.” Damn, he is a very smart guy. He sees the full picture. |
The Real Wizard 14.06.2018 18:04 |
SweetCaroline wrote: link "He’s a thinker and a feeler. He likes to tune into the heart of things whether it’s emotional or scientific. He’s hyper focussed on the feeling he wants to achieve. He takes a minute. He’s not impulsive." That's one of the best synopses of Brian May I've come across. Lambert is a lot brighter than most people give him credit for. |
rockchic65 14.06.2018 18:21 |
The Real Wizard wrote:I think his appearance, liking clothes, make up etc give people a false impression, he's very intelligent, you only need to watch his interviews, he's very articulate and smart.SweetCaroline wrote: link"He’s a thinker and a feeler. He likes to tune into the heart of things whether it’s emotional or scientific. He’s hyper focussed on the feeling he wants to achieve. He takes a minute. He’s not impulsive." That's one of the best synopses of Brian May I've come across. Lambert is a lot brighter than most people give him credit for. |
OhioMustapha 14.06.2018 18:25 |
Just don't worry about the criticism he gets and enjoy the show, at least you will see Brian and Roger! Thats how I look at it. |
rockchic65 14.06.2018 18:36 |
OhioMustapha wrote: Just don't worry about the criticism he gets and enjoy the show, at least you will see Brian and Roger! Thats how I look at it.The only real criticism he gets is from a few die hard fans, the huge majority of people don't have any problem with him at all, and I can attest seeing Brian & Roger up close doing their thing was amazing. |
runner_70 14.06.2018 18:47 |
The "huge majority" is the Joe Public "QUeen Fan" who knows 5 songs of "Greatest Hits 1", has no clue what Freddie and Queen stood for, buys a Queen shirt for 5 Euro at H& M and thinks he is a classic rocker. |
Sealion 14.06.2018 18:49 |
I don’t think, that Brian and Roger would have toured that long with Lambert, if he hadn’t been smart. They are intelligent men. I can‘t see them spending a lot of time with someone, who doesn‘t understand shit of what they are talking about. |
rockchic65 14.06.2018 18:55 |
runner_70 wrote: The "huge majority" is the Joe Public "QUeen Fan" who knows 5 songs of "Greatest Hits 1", has no clue what Freddie and Queen stood for, buys a Queen shirt for 5 Euro at H& M and thinks he is a classic rocker.But they aren't and you know it. Lots of Queen fans who've seen them in the 70s/80s are seeing these shows as well as the more casual fans. |
Iron Butterfly 14.06.2018 19:17 |
That article is better than the recent Attitude one. |
SweetCaroline 14.06.2018 20:04 |
I tried to get a copy of that Attitude magazine featuring Adam on the cover and inside but it was already sold out! |
Iron Butterfly 14.06.2018 20:18 |
SweetCaroline wrote: I tried to get a copy of that Attitude magazine featuring Adam on the cover and inside but it was already sold out!Apparently, it was popular. For the most part it was good, but I didn't like how he spoke about Freddie's sexuality. He didn't know how in the closet Freddie was. I still feel it was poor of him to go down that route. |
SweetCaroline 14.06.2018 21:24 |
“5 Reasons to see Queen + Adam Lambert” link |
runner_70 14.06.2018 21:59 |
5 reasons to QAL: 1) AL sounds like a goat 2) AL looks like an overweight tranny on CSD 3) AL mocks Freddie (couch/coronet) and is total disrespectful 4) Their have become their own tasteless tribute act 5) Lamebert has no connection to Rock music whatsoever - this is a Vegas Queen Musical (in a bad way) |
rockchic65 14.06.2018 22:06 |
runner_70 wrote: 5 reasons to QAL: 1) AL sounds like a goat 2) AL looks like an overweight tranny on CSD 3) AL mocks Freddie (couch/coronet) and is total disrespectful 4) Their have become their own tasteless tribute act 5) Lamebert has no connection to Rock music whatsoever - this is a Vegas Queen Musical (in a bad way)5 reasons to ignore runner _70 Actually only need 1, he talks utter claptrap. |
Vocal harmony 15.06.2018 17:05 |
rockchic65 wrote:Agreed, but here are five anywayrunner_70 wrote: 5 reasons to QAL: 1) AL sounds like a goat 2) AL looks like an overweight tranny on CSD 3) AL mocks Freddie (couch/coronet) and is total disrespectful 4) Their have become their own tasteless tribute act 5) Lamebert has no connection to Rock music whatsoever - this is a Vegas Queen Musical (in a bad way)5 reasons to ignore runner _70 Actually only need 1, he talks utter claptrap. 1) AL has a voice that can cope with the range of Queen's material 2). AL to my knowledge has never appeared on stage with Queen in drag, so the word tranny is redundant. 3). AL shows Freddie, the band, songs and audience huge respect and has a shared sense of humour with them and Freddie. 4) Like loads of other bands they have a different lineup to the original, three members from the 84-86 live band are still on stage, hardly a tribute 5) Freddie had no connection to opera but pulled off Barcelona in the same way AL does what he does! |
Star* 15.06.2018 17:11 |
Runner_70 Thanks for that and you are spot on with your comments. Lambert is a total embarrassment to rock n roll fans all over the world. |
Star* 15.06.2018 17:15 |
VH Sure Freddie had no connection to opera but pulled Barcelona off but he did write the song and he has always been original and not like Lambert singing a rock legends music for a living. Adam Lambert has looked like a tranny many times so you go take a look at the last ten years of Lambert. |
Vocal harmony 15.06.2018 17:28 |
happystar wrote: . . . . Adam Lambert has looked like a tranny many times so you go take a look at the last ten years of Lambert.You obviously have a greater interest in him than I do. It doesn't matter what he looked like ten years ago, he hasn't looked that way in the last 6 years while touring with Queen. We're not talking about song writing we're talking about singing performance, or is every singer in the world who isn't a writer not a good singer? Let's start with Frank Sinatra? |
Star* 15.06.2018 18:01 |
Lets just say Lambert is not worthy of been in a band like Queen. Each Queen member is multi talented and proved there place in the band, on the other hand Lambert just sings the songs like a night on the town and like many other tribute singers, he is hardly original or special. |
rockchic65 15.06.2018 18:25 |
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rockchic65 15.06.2018 18:26 |
rockchic65 wrote:happystar wrote: Lets just say Lambert is not worthy of been in a band like Queen. Each Queen member is multi talented and proved there place in the band, on the other hand Lambert just sings the songs like a night on the town and like many other tribute singers, he is hardly original or special.Not Brian & Roger's opinion of him, they take his views seriously and he does a lot more than just sing the songs like a tribute act. He might joke around but he takes what he's doing seriously and he has input into the show, he doesn't just turn up to sing. Yeah Freddie was multi talented, he played instruments and wrote some amazing music, no one's taking that away from him but for the current situation Adam is more than worthy of the job he's doing, which doesn't involve him having to play instruments or write Queen music. And I've no idea what kind of Tranny's you've seen but nothing he's worn onstage with Queen would qualify as a Tranny outfit. Last I checked he's never worn women's clothes onstage. |
runner_70 15.06.2018 21:11 |
Well at least you have to give credit to his clothes: He is wearing butcher's clothes at the beginning of the show. Pretty fitting as he butchers Queen songs for the next 2 hrs. At least I can finally say sth positive about him |
runner_70 15.06.2018 21:12 |
Vocal Harmony - last tme I checked SPike was never an official QUeen member so your point of having 3 original members on stage is silly |
rockchic65 15.06.2018 21:18 |
runner_70 wrote: Vocal Harmony - last tme I checked SPike was never an official QUeen member so your point of having 3 original members on stage is sillyWell if we're being pedantic 2 original members and one honorary member. |
Star* 16.06.2018 08:18 |
Spike was only considered a stand in musician and i think he was rarely seen on stage, apart from a guest appearance when "Hammer to Fall" was played. |
runner_70 16.06.2018 09:32 |
happystar makes no sense to argue with clueless Lametards about a certain group that stopped in 1991 does it? |
rockchic65 16.06.2018 09:40 |
happystar wrote: Spike was only considered a stand in musician and i think he was rarely seen on stage, apart from a guest appearance when "Hammer to Fall" was played.I think they consider him more than a stand in musician, certainly now since he's musical director and he's been in both their solo projects as well. He's often named as the unofficial fifth band member. |
Vocal harmony 16.06.2018 11:17 |
runner_70 wrote: Vocal Harmony - last tme I checked SPike was never an official QUeen member so your point of having 3 original members on stage is sillyRead my post again. I said the 84-86 LIVE band. . . Musicians that played live in the band NOT the original four recording members. So yeah there are three people on stage playing in the same way they have since 1984. That simple enough to understand isn't it? |
OhioMustapha 16.06.2018 19:14 |
When you watch all of Brians selfie stick videos, it becomes clear that a lot of people at the front row (not all) are either Lambert fans, or people that have heard Greatest Hits 1 and became hooked. |
rockchic65 16.06.2018 19:21 |
OhioMustapha wrote: When you watch all of Brians selfie stick videos, it becomes clear that a lot of people at the front row (not all) are either Lambert fans, or people that have heard Greatest Hits 1 and became hooked.What exactly are you seeing to come to that conclusion? |
snifflese 17.06.2018 02:51 |
So, what is wrong with Adam's fans? Interesting because some people say he doesn't have many and they are all young girls (totally wrong as he has a lot of older gals and they have money to buy those front row seats!). At my two shows in Connecticut there were a lot of Adam fans and, of course, a ton of Queen fans. But many were like me who had always loved Queen and then loved Adam! As far as getting hooked on the Greatest hits, that would be a good thing! You want new fans who are going to purchase more music and follow the band. I think QAL has introduced music to many new people including parents who bring their older children. The more fans, the better!! People have to hear the music to fall in love with it and not all of the younger generation are that aware of Queen, so this is a good thing! |
Star* 17.06.2018 08:41 |
sniflese : Parents would have known about Queen and it is not Adam who has made Queen known to them. Queen have been around since 1971 and they are a bigger phenomenon than Adam will ever be. Freddie Mercury will always be the most famous member in Queen, and Adam is just there to sing song and verse nothing more than that. |
runner_70 17.06.2018 09:39 |
....and fails miserably by doing so. Sent him to the desert with a oneway ticket. |
Vocal harmony 17.06.2018 12:15 |
And there you have the views of two people who have never been to a show so obviously they are, our of everyone, best place to accurately comment on what the gigs are really like. |
rockchic65 17.06.2018 12:33 |
runner_70 wrote: ....and fails miserably by doing so. Sent him to the desert with a oneway ticket.So still touring after six years with them is a failure? Hmm, strange idea of failure you have there. |
Star* 17.06.2018 13:49 |
Rochchic : Rubbish will always sell if there is an attraction there, just look at Beiber or olly murs! Its always been looks before talent and Lambert is the adrog type attraction, and people are attracted to his weird looks ans style, sadly that is all he has going for him though. |
Star* 17.06.2018 13:52 |
vocal harmony : i do not have to waste my well earned money to sample a watered down band and a novice singer, i have seen them on tv and they are crap. Nothing as brilliant as when they had freddie & john on board. Lambert would never get my money, i would rather give it to a homeless person than that thing. |
snifflese 17.06.2018 14:06 |
Go enjoy your videos and your youtubes of Freddie, Just quit telling us about it. What I meant by parents and kids was that the parents (who DO know Queen) are now bringing their kids who will hopefully like Queen and become fans. It s really stupid to say that QAL touring does not bring in new fans. We certainly wouldn't want Adam to get any credit now, would we? But due to their touring and new people hearing them at a concert, new fans are being created. It has nothing to do with Queen being bigger than Adam, but now the promotion through a tour expands the number of people who hear Queen's music. You can't tell me that Queen is not gaining new fans through their collaboration. They wouldn't be touring without Adam, so he is a part of Queen's new Renaissance. I m not sure why that is such a stickler for some of you people. It would be the same effect no matter who was singing. You sing for millions of people over 6 years and you can't tell me that the music isn't creating new fans who go on to buy some of Queen's older music. To think that this is not the case is just plain DUMB!!! |
Sealion 17.06.2018 14:37 |
@happystar For heaven‘s sake, can you stop your shit? We know your point of view. Keep all your money, I don’t want to meet you negative ninny at any of these gigs. I definitly don‘t go to these shows to enjoy Lambert‘s looks. I go there to hear Queen‘s music and watch a great show, as do all the other people there. And yes: Lambert can sing and perform! You may be able to judge the show up to a certain extent by watching videos. I’m actually with the people here, who say, that you can never judge a show completely without having seen it live. Therefore you have no idea, who the audience is and why they are there. You were never there, talking to other people around yourself. Fans, who have seen more than 150 shows. With Freddie, without him. Or it’s their first Queen Show . We are all there. And if we dare to describe our experiences at the show here, you only accept it, if the review fits into your picture. You behave like a 5 year old! Yes, some fans don’t like Q+AL or didn’t enjoy the show. But it’s only you and runner70, who for some sick reason feel the need to constantly slam Adam Lambert in this forum. Get over it. He‘s been touring with them for 6 years. He won’t go away. I’m sure, that he will stay as long as Brian and Roger keep on going. I would even go so far, that I wouldn’t call him a guest any longer, not after 6 years and several tours. He isn’t a member of Queen, but he sure is a full member of the current incarnation of the band. Although I didn’t like the idea of him singing with Brian and Roger in the beginning, he convinced me live. Your constant name-calling and humiliating of him does only one thing: it makes YOU look like a fool. |
rockchic65 17.06.2018 16:46 |
happystar wrote: Rochchic : Rubbish will always sell if there is an attraction there, just look at Beiber or olly murs! Its always been looks before talent and Lambert is the adrog type attraction, and people are attracted to his weird looks ans style, sadly that is all he has going for him though.You're right to a point, Beiber and Olly and maybe even Adam etc have some fans who probably don't care whether they can sing or not but are you seriously trying to say all the older Queen fans, many of them straight guys, are also going because of Adam's looks? I find that very hard to believe and there's no way I would see any singer/band no matter how good looking if they sounded rubbish, I go for the music. Despite what you might want to think he has an amazing voice, just not to your taste, but to say otherwise is just silly when he's praised by so many industry people and people who know a hell of a lot about singing and music. |
Star* 17.06.2018 16:54 |
Yes Lambert sings Freddies vocals and that is it! Nothing creative going on there is there? Lots of tribute bands do it every night so they do not make people want to buy Queens music either or is it just Adam who has the knack to make everyone want to buy a Queen album then? Lambert is a crumb on the music landscape and just off the record i have seen some pics of him on face book looking rather transgender with massive platform heels and a fur coat , so tell me that is not cross dressing then?Yes Freddie done it because it was a mickey take for Coronation Street but Lambert is quite serious with his dress sense and that is the difference here. Cant imagine any straight man who supports Lambert in any shape or form. You cannot take any American idol contestant serious really ! |
Sealion 17.06.2018 17:04 |
Have you seen Freddie LIVE on stage (in a full gig)? I‘m asking, because I remember, that I actually found some of his outfits ridiculous and in hindsight some of his remarks much more „shocking“ than anything I‘ve seen Lambert do. |
rockchic65 17.06.2018 17:09 |
happystar wrote: Yes Lambert sings Freddies vocals and that is it! Nothing creative going on there is there? Lots of tribute bands do it every night so they do not make people want to buy Queens music either or is it just Adam who has the knack to make everyone want to buy a Queen album then? Lambert is a crumb on the music landscape and just off the record i have seen some pics of him on face book looking rather transgender with massive platform heels and a fur coat , so tell me that is not cross dressing then?Yes Freddie done it because it was a mickey take for Coronation Street but Lambert is quite serious with his dress sense and that is the difference here. Cant imagine any straight man who supports Lambert in any shape or form. You cannot take any American idol contestant serious really !He wears heels onstage, that isn't trans, look back at the 80's with all the glam rock bands like Slade & Sweet, don't come more high/platform than the boots they wore. Freddie had a fur Jacket on (TOTP 1974), didn't really think he looked trans in that but what do I know. No idea which fur coat you've seen him in with heels unless it's the feather thing he wore at Rock in Rio. He isn't trans but I really don't see why it would matter if he were, wouldn't alter the fact he can sing. Loads of straight guys go to the shows and don't have a problem with him, they're more interested in his singing than what he's wearing and surprisingly they find what he wears and how he acts funny, maybe because he isn't taking it seriously at all and that's obvious if you see the shows. As to the American Idol thing, that's just daft, why would it matter where you get your start if you have talent. |
Sealion 17.06.2018 17:11 |
And before you get me wrong: I loved Freddie, including his clothes and humor. A reason, why I didn’t go to any gig with Paul Rodgers: he’s plain boring on stage. Lambert brought the Queen feeling back. At least in my opinion. |
SweetCaroline 17.06.2018 17:36 |
Two things: Adam is not a novice singer. He has been a stage performer since age 10. Also he does not have weird looks. He is a very handsome man. When not on stage he wears baseball caps, sandals, jean shorts and looks like any other young man his age! Stop hating on him. If you are a fan of the original Queen band, give Brian and Roger credit that they would never be touring with him if he wasn’t qualified as a vocalist, entertainer and genuinely good and caring human being! |
Vocal harmony 17.06.2018 18:38 |
happystar wrote: Yes Lambert sings Freddies vocals and that is it! Nothing creative going on there is there? Lots of tribute bands do it every night so they do not make people want to buy Queens music either or is it just Adam who has the knack to make everyone want to buy a Queen album then? Lambert is a crumb on the music landscape and just off the record i have seen some pics of him on face book looking rather transgender with massive platform heels and a fur coat , so tell me that is not cross dressing then?Yes Freddie done it because it was a mickey take for Coronation Street but Lambert is quite serious with his dress sense and that is the difference here. Cant imagine any straight man who supports Lambert in any shape or form. You cannot take any American idol contestant serious really !High heels. I guess Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons are both transgender then? Fur coat, would that be what Freddie wore for Killer Queen on TOTP in 74 False tits, a pink top and black wig on stage during The Works tour. . If the cap fits Copying Freddie's vocals, he doesn't, he puts his own creative colour into what he sings. Tribute singer try to sound like the artist they are covering, AL doesn't do that. No straight males at any of the shows, ok if that WAS true which it isn't, they have the biggest gay following in the world. Why would that be a problem? Most successful world wide live period since 80/85. Boo hoo happystar it's happening and you ain't stopping it. |
Sealion 17.06.2018 18:53 |
^I agree with your post, vocal harmony. Plus: He saw a pic on face book and is now sure, that Lambert takes his clothes seriously. Of course... |
runner_70 17.06.2018 20:58 |
ANy Pix with that thing is crap |
Raf 17.06.2018 21:28 |
No offense, but I half blame QAL supporters for all this mess in the forum. Stop feeding the trolls! We have interesting stuff to talk about, I've seen great discussions here about setlists, soundchecks, healthy comparisons between AL tours, PR tours and Freddie days tours. I come back here every so often to get some news about the current tour. THEY don't have much to discuss, as there's nothing new for THEM going on. Queen's gone with Freddie Mercury and every couple of years they can grab a new compilation of old songs or new release of some old concert which we've all seen/heard on bootlegs. We could just ignore them until they're as bored of trying to spam the QAL discussions as they are of listening the same versions of the same songs for the past 3 decades or so. But you guys are keeping them entertained by arguing with them, and now the QAL section of the forum is a big useless mess where I can't find anything relevant about QAL as there are 10 posts about this silly AL x FM fight for each interesting post. |
Sealion 17.06.2018 21:54 |
^Jep. |
Star* 18.06.2018 07:19 |
Yes this is QUEENZONE you know to celebrate the FOUR members of a certain rock group called QUEEN. Freddie Brian Roger & John. Why Adam Lambert is mentioned on here i do not know, you have stated many times he is only a guest and i know he will have his own website somewhere instead of the girls sabotaging this one. Many Lamberts fans do not even discuss QUEEN on here its all about pussy boy, how great he is, what he is up too what he wears etc,...... please go and discuss that else where. Adam Lambert is a teenybop performer like Donny Osmond was back in the 70s and what he is doing now is unoriginal from the songs he sings to his ridiculous clothes he wears which by the way are 44 years too late. |
rockchic65 18.06.2018 08:28 |
happystar wrote: Yes this is QUEENZONE you know to celebrate the FOUR members of a certain rock group called QUEEN. Freddie Brian Roger & John. Why Adam Lambert is mentioned on here i do not know, you have stated many times he is only a guest and i know he will have his own website somewhere instead of the girls sabotaging this one. Many Lamberts fans do not even discuss QUEEN on here its all about pussy boy, how great he is, what he is up too what he wears etc,...... please go and discuss that else where. Adam Lambert is a teenybop performer like Donny Osmond was back in the 70s and what he is doing now is unoriginal from the songs he sings to his ridiculous clothes he wears which by the way are 44 years too late.You have missed the point of Raf's comment, this is the QAL part of QUEENZONE, there are other threads dedicated to Queen so why can't there be a thread dedicated to Queen +. The logical thing would be for anyone not interested in QAL to not read this part of the site, that way everyone could chat about the things they are interested in without every discussion being derailed. Like it or not, and yes we know you don't, QAL is here to stay for the foreseeable and so temporarily Adam is a current member of the touring band and will be talked about. Every time someone starts a thread on the QAL part it gets derailed by negativity and I know Raf said don't feed the trolls but you would have to get every single person to ignore all the negative comments, never happens on any forum I've seen unfortunately. As to Adam's fans going on other sites, some probably do but for some fans like me who are interested in the music and not his private life those sites are annoying. I really don't want to see copies of every instagram post he's liked in the past few days posted over and over along with pics of ornaments in his house and a discussion of if said ornament was previously in this or that room. Scroll really is your friend on those sites and it's tedious, just not my thing. As to him being a teenybob, seriously, that's just rubbish. |
Iron Butterfly 18.06.2018 11:17 |
rockchic65 wrote:Sometimes the 'news' of the day on Adamtopia is which tweets, Instagram pics, AL liked and who he followed. Who is staying at his house, walking his dog, even the way the way said dog is walked. Who AL is partying with, even going as far to post what his ex and AL's friends post on social media. Any tweet and least little thing that mentions AL is posted about. Very invasive IMO. I know this because I actually read Adamtopia every now and then.happystar wrote: Yes this is QUEENZONE you know to celebrate the FOUR members of a certain rock group called QUEEN. Freddie Brian Roger & John. Why Adam Lambert is mentioned on here i do not know, you have stated many times he is only a guest and i know he will have his own website somewhere instead of the girls sabotaging this one. Many Lamberts fans do not even discuss QUEEN on here its all about pussy boy, how great he is, what he is up too what he wears etc,...... please go and discuss that else where. Adam Lambert is a teenybop performer like Donny Osmond was back in the 70s and what he is doing now is unoriginal from the songs he sings to his ridiculous clothes he wears which by the way are 44 years too late.You have missed the point of Raf's comment, this is the QAL part of QUEENZONE, there are other threads dedicated to Queen so why can't there be a thread dedicated to Queen +. The logical thing would be for anyone not interested in QAL to not read this part of the site, that way everyone could chat about the things they are interested in without every discussion being derailed. Like it or not, and yes we know you don't, QAL is here to stay for the foreseeable and so temporarily Adam is a current member of the touring band and will be talked about. Every time someone starts a thread on the QAL part it gets derailed by negativity and I know Raf said don't feed the trolls but you would have to get every single person to ignore all the negative comments, never happens on any forum I've seen unfortunately. As to Adam's fans going on other sites, some probably do but for some fans like me who are interested in the music and not his private life those sites are annoying. I really don't want to see copies of every instagram post he's liked in the past few days posted over and over along with pics of ornaments in his house and a discussion of if said ornament was previously in this or that room. Scroll really is your friend on those sites and it's tedious, just not my thing. As to him being a teenybob, seriously, that's just rubbish. Queen fans can get a bad rap by many Glamberts, but I've never seen Queen fans behave like that. I wouldn't call AL a teenybopper( although some of his fans have crushes on AL that sort of reminds me of the Wham days when I was crushing on GM ) and I admit AL does have talent, but he needs to break free, no pun intended.. He didn't appear on American Idol this year, and I hope that means he is leaving that behind. When this leg of the Q+AL tour is very, AL says he will get back to the studio. To start over? To put finishing touches on his music? Now he is no longer without a record company...if he doesn't end up with one it's going to be very hard for him. Maybe some other company is waiting in the wings to snap him up. Maybe AL will give a hint or be straightforward when this tour is over. TOH is just over three years old now, it's basically him singing covers since then. |
Star* 18.06.2018 13:00 |
If Lambert had any decency and ambition he would leave Queen and get on with his own business. He has been hanging on to them for over 10 years now so it is time he proved he has talent and go his own way, instead of hiding behind two rock legends. |
Vocal harmony 18.06.2018 13:41 |
happystar wrote: If Lambert had any decency and ambition he would leave Queen and get on with his own business. He has been hanging on to them for over 10 years now so it is time he proved he has talent and go his own way, instead of hiding behind two rock legends.He's been touring with them since 2012, that would be less than ten years. He isn't hanging on to "them" he was asked to front the band for the purpose of touring, which he agreed to do and "they" seem happy with the arrangement, which millions of people around the world seem to agree with. Why can't you accept that. You font have to like it (you clearly don't) but your constant moaning and repeated condemnation is tiresome, old hat and achieves nothing. Try airing these views on Queenonline or direct to Brian May via his site. |
SweetCaroline 18.06.2018 13:51 |
Adam has toured with Queen on and off for 6 years since 2012, not 10 years, while also doing worldwide solo tours for 3 albums. He is like the Energizer bunny balancing many projects at the same time. Why does it bother certain people what he does or doesn’t do? If you do not like him, leave him alone and go to the websites of the entertainers you do like. These threads are for Queen + Adam Lambert, not for the original Queen. The original Queen legacy lives on despite Queen + Adam Lambert. Go post on those threads instead of bitching about Adam. He will be here as long as they all want the collaboration to continue! |
rockchic65 18.06.2018 14:54 |
Vocal harmony wrote:I agree, I wish I could remember where but he did an interview recently where he was asked about how long he intended to carry on with the QAL thing and about his own music and he said that Brian & Roger love touring, they all enjoy working together and he feels because it's obviously gonna be time limited he will carry on as long as they want him to. He said they're friends now, not just work colleagues and that's what you do with friends, in other words not just drop them when it suits you because you've other things going on. I'm paraphrasing as I can't remember the exact wording but that was the gist of what he meant. He also said about his own music, different interview, that he can write and record it but there's a lot of business stuff behind the scenes that has to get sorted before you can put out an album. He clearly can't talk about any of that yet but he was working on it right up until leaving for the tour and is hoping to have it finished before Vegas.happystar wrote: If Lambert had any decency and ambition he would leave Queen and get on with his own business. He has been hanging on to them for over 10 years now so it is time he proved he has talent and go his own way, instead of hiding behind two rock legends.He's been touring with them since 2012, that would be less than ten years. He isn't hanging on to "them" he was asked to front the band for the purpose of touring, which he agreed to do and "they" seem happy with the arrangement, which millions of people around the world seem to agree with. Why can't you accept that. You font have to like it (you clearly don't) but your constant moaning and repeated condemnation is tiresome, old hat and achieves nothing. Try airing these views on Queenonline or direct to Brian May via his site. I don't see the Queen thing as hanging onto them, it's a mutually beneficial arrangement that's making a hell of a lot of fans as well as themselves happy, why would they want to stop whilst they can still do it. |
Star* 18.06.2018 15:51 |
Howabout that they are boring the hell out of us all playing the same old karaoke hits year in year out yawn yawn yawn............. There are loads of Queen tribute acts out there doing the same. One thing you cannot agree and that is they are not original anymore, that boat has sailed and as far as i am concerned Queen are done ! |
SweetCaroline 18.06.2018 16:06 |
happystar, short of resurrecting Freddie from the. grave, this is the best they can do! BTW if Freddie were still here and still performing, I bet he would also be performing the “same old same old” songs! You are being ridiculous! |
rockchic65 18.06.2018 16:32 |
happystar wrote: Howabout that they are boring the hell out of us all playing the same old karaoke hits year in year out yawn yawn yawn............. There are loads of Queen tribute acts out there doing the same. One thing you cannot agree and that is they are not original anymore, that boat has sailed and as far as i am concerned Queen are done !But the point is for most people they aren't in the least bit bored. IMO it shows just what an impact Queen music has on people that they still love to listen to it all these years later and don't get bored of it. Are you bored of Queen music with Freddie? Do you think, I can't be bothered listening to these albums now, I've heard them dozens of times, I wan't new music? Doubtful or you wouldn't still be on a Queen site talking about them so why should it be different for people hearing them live? |
runner_70 18.06.2018 16:42 |
SC Freddie would never go on endless Greatest Hits tours without releasing new music. Queen was the pinnacle of being original and varied - now Maylor are the pinnacle of boredom, embarrassment and same old |
The Real Wizard 18.06.2018 17:46 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Why does it bother certain people what he does or doesn’t do? If you do not like him, leave him alone and go to the websites of the entertainers you do like.Because this is what people with the disposition of a teenager do. They obsess over something, and will relentlessly try to tear down anything that doesn't coalesce with their limited worldview. |
Star* 18.06.2018 17:47 |
Rockchic: Freddie surely would have changed the any given set list by now and certainly would not bore the fans the way May & Lambert are at current. i can listen to any Queen album and not get bored because the songs are sung in a way that makes them what they are classics, and i can not bare to hear anyone else sing them did you know the band always wrote songs around Freddie's voice, they knew what tempo suited his vocals so anybody else who sung them sounded odd! Another question i have been puzzled by, how come we have no Paul Rodgers fans with threads on here after all he done it all before Lambert did and in my opinion he gave Queen that gritty rock n roll edge which i loved and i am sure Freddie would have been thrilled with. Paul Rodgers has a great rock n roll pedigree and in my opinion so worthy of filling in for Freddie. Also George Michael was great too, i always admired George because he was not like Lambert in your face he was cool and had a fantastic vocal ability. |
The Real Wizard 18.06.2018 17:49 |
SweetCaroline wrote: happystar, short of resurrecting Freddie from the. grave, this is the best they can do! BTW if Freddie were still here and still performing, I bet he would also be performing the “same old same old” songs! You are being ridiculous!Exactly. Most of the old classic rock bands are still touring, and 95-100% of the material of the shows is their old music, because that's what people want to hear - not the album from 2003 that even their most ardent fans have mostly forgotten. It really is bizarre, that there are so many Queen fans who lose sight of reality like this. I don't see Stones or Yes fans being so myopic and disconnected from the world at large. |
The Real Wizard 18.06.2018 17:52 |
happystar wrote: i can listen to any Queen album and not get bored because the songs are sung in a way that makes them what they are classics, and i can not bare to hear anyone else sing them how come we have no Paul Rodgers fans with threads on here after all he done it all before Lambert did and in my opinion he gave Queen that gritty rock n roll edge which i loved and i am sure Freddie would have been thrilled with.The fact that you cannot see the contradiction of these two statements, contained in the same post, is both hilarious and startling to witness. And for the record, there were plenty of people defending the Paul Rodgers collaboration. You just haven't bothered to seek them out. Go back to your cave. |
runner_70 18.06.2018 18:31 |
Happystar: I guess Paul ROdgers Fans avoid threads like Lamebird like a plague :) They are serious music lovers not fans of a fat tranny teenybopper who is without a record contract at the moment |
rockchic65 18.06.2018 19:18 |
happystar wrote: Rockchic: Freddie surely would have changed the any given set list by now and certainly would not bore the fans the way May & Lambert are at current. i can listen to any Queen album and not get bored because the songs are sung in a way that makes them what they are classics, and i can not bare to hear anyone else sing them did you know the band always wrote songs around Freddie's voice, they knew what tempo suited his vocals so anybody else who sung them sounded odd! Another question i have been puzzled by, how come we have no Paul Rodgers fans with threads on here after all he done it all before Lambert did and in my opinion he gave Queen that gritty rock n roll edge which i loved and i am sure Freddie would have been thrilled with. Paul Rodgers has a great rock n roll pedigree and in my opinion so worthy of filling in for Freddie. Also George Michael was great too, i always admired George because he was not like Lambert in your face he was cool and had a fantastic vocal ability.I can't speak for Paul's fans but I would imagine since they aren't touring together any more they don't really have anything Queen related to discuss and are probably following his solo career now since he was on his free spirit tour last year. Obviously the music written for Freddie's voice and on the recordings is classic Queen and will always sound the best but that doesn't mean no one else can sing it, and IMO it sounded further away from the Queen sound with Paul. I like his voice but not for some of the Queen songs, the phrasing and tempo were too different for me personally. I loved George Michael's voice and yeah he had a totally different style and vibe to Adam but that doesn't make one right and the other wrong, all artist are different, I can like them all for different reasons. Jeff Scott Soto would have been my choice if they hadn't gone with Adam, love his take on Queen songs and he has the rock voice and stage presence to pull it off as well. He still keeps the phrasing and melody pretty similar even though he doesn't sound like Freddie. As to the set list, I suspect they keep it pretty much to the hits with a few odd B sides thrown in because quite a lot of the audience are probably Greatest Hits owners who wouldn't know the obscure songs. Whilst I'd love them to do some deep cuts it probably would stop the flow of the show if half the audience had never heard them. End of the day people are loving the shows so as the saying goes, if it ain't broke why fix it. |
rockchic65 18.06.2018 19:23 |
runner_70 wrote: Happystar: I guess Paul ROdgers Fans avoid threads like Lamebird like a plague :) They are serious music lovers not fans of a fat tranny teenybopper who is without a record contract at the momentThe tranny comment is getting seriously old, everyone knows what a tranny is and Adam ain't one and for the record he ain't fat either. And no one knows if he has a contract or not, the only thing you know for sure is he's not with Warner anymore. I'm sure he'll have another contract lined up, because despite what you think he's talented and smart and just as important, good to work with. |
Iron Butterfly 18.06.2018 19:32 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Adam has toured with Queen on and off for 6 years since 2012, not 10 years, while also doing worldwide solo tours for 3 albums. He is like the Energizer bunny balancing many projects at the same time. Why does it bother certain people what he does or doesn’t do? If you do not like him, leave him alone and go to the websites of the entertainers you do like. These threads are for Queen + Adam Lambert, not for the original Queen. The original Queen legacy lives on despite Queen + Adam Lambert. Go post on those threads instead of bitching about Adam. He will be here as long as they all want the collaboration to continue!The irony. Go away, leave him alone you usually say, while throwing your toys out of the pram like a baby. Again, you are a hypocrite. You sure have your things to say about Sam Smith and Adele simply because they are more popular than Adam, and that makes you upset and bitch about those artists with your own brand of bitter envy. You aren't a Queen fan. I remember a year or so ago that a thread about Queen on QOL upset you. It's clear you can't even be bothered to discuss Queen without Freddie, unless you are comparing it to Q+AL. Then you tell people to go away, STFU, leave Adam alone. Ironic and hypocritical as hell. Why does it bother you that some people don't like Q+AL? You take that very personal. It's not that big of a deal that some people don't like it, or enjoy it. You are on the constant defense and promotion side of things, over nothing. A person takes the piss out of what AL wears, out you come with the weak come back Freddie wore the onesie and super short white shorts. Has Brian and Freddie ever had their arms around each other onstage, you asked because Brian and AL did it. Those stupid comparsions that you do. I've warmed up to Q+AL in some ways. This time, I really like PTG as the song Q+AL added to this tour. I still don't like other things. But yes, I'm interested in Q+AL, mostly for Brian and Roger. No lie, I've always been honest about that. Queen's music has never died out even with the passing of Freddie. I'm sure for years to come the music will still be out there. I think that is a great legacy to Freddie, Brian, Roger and John. That has zilch to do with AL. |
runner_70 18.06.2018 22:25 |
Amen - anyone who thinks that Queenmusic needs a ZERO talent and ZERO singer like trannyboy is delusional |
rockchic65 18.06.2018 22:38 |
runner_70 wrote: Amen - anyone who thinks that Queenmusic needs a ZERO talent and ZERO singer like trannyboy is delusionalAnyone who thinks his totally biased opinion which he's unable to justify is in anyway valuable is more than delusional. And while you whine incessantly, "trannyboy" is out there earning a nice tidy sum, travelling in style with his friends (B & R) and not giving people like you a seconds thought. Who do you thinks enjoying life more? |
Sealion 18.06.2018 23:18 |
Don‘t feed the troll. He has been doing this for more than 6 years now on different fan forums and social networks. None of your answers will stop him. |
SweetCaroline 18.06.2018 23:32 |
Adam is not trans. He said he is cis (whatever that means)! |
SweetCaroline 18.06.2018 23:35 |
“#MusicMonday Adam Lambert describes exciting new music “there's rock n' roll vibes, there's funk, there's singer/songwriter vibes, a little blues, & there's a lot more soul. It just feels more classic that way, but there's still a modern edge to it." |
rockchic65 18.06.2018 23:45 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Adam is not trans. He said he is cis (whatever that means)!cis means he identifies as the gender he was born, so not transgender/transsexual but I think runner is calling him a transvestite. Bit confusing when trans can mean any of those. |
Iron Butterfly 18.06.2018 23:58 |
SweetCaroline wrote: “#MusicMonday Adam Lambert describes exciting new music “there's rock n' roll vibes, there's funk, there's singer/songwriter vibes, a little blues, & there's a lot more soul. It just feels more classic that way, but there's still a modern edge to it."That's nothing new. He said that pretty much the same thing weeks ago with the Wonderland article or interview. Don't try to rehash stuff here too, for Pete's sake. You did the same thing on QOL four or five times. |
Iron Butterfly 19.06.2018 00:00 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Adam is not trans. He said he is cis (whatever that means)!Couldn't you look it up what it means? You are so careless at times on Queen boards, 'the gay thing again' and now whatever cis means, you say. It would take a minute to look it up, after all you manage to find out everything else about AL. |
SweetCaroline 19.06.2018 01:09 |
I never posted that on QOL and your favorite “rehash” word gets people in trouble because you don’t know how to mind your own business! |
Iron Butterfly 19.06.2018 01:31 |
SweetCaroline wrote: I never posted that on QOL and your favorite “rehash” word gets people in trouble because you don’t know how to mind your own business!More than once you ended up posting links that were nothing but rehashing about what his new music will sound like from the Wonderland article. Once right before your current absence from QOL, and four times before that. Don't even try to deny it. No dear, you get yourself in trouble. Yes, sure rehashing that you did is something else that you will blame me for, I suppose. |
SweetCaroline 19.06.2018 02:01 |
It was a whole different article and yes you are a miserable busybody who should mind her own business! |
Iron Butterfly 19.06.2018 02:12 |
SweetCaroline wrote: It was a whole different article and yes you are a miserable busybody who should mind her own business!Ok, I apologise now. Thought it was the same that you had already posted, because how AL described it the music is pretty much how he described it n the Wonderland article. Hand up, I was wrong. It is my business when you post the exact same thing, just with other links. That's spamming and trolling, and I hope you don't end up doing it here as well. That's not my being miserable and a busy body, because very rarely do you even bother to explain what is in the links you post. I bet if other outlets pick up on this AL article, you will post about that too. I guess you can't stop promoting the guy. Are you hoping runner and happystar will turn into AL fans or something? If so, good luck with that, LMAO. I dare say AL is going to need luck too, especially without WB. Even if some other record company snaps him up, after AL has invested so much time with Q+AL, it's going to be hader for him for his solo music. It seems like he wants to try as many genres as possible...and sometimes that is very hard to pull off, even harder to be successful at it. |
runner_70 19.06.2018 04:24 |
Exciting new music no sane person wants to listen to thats why he got dropped from Warner. Thanks Warner Kudos for keeping the airwaves Lamebird-free! |
Star* 19.06.2018 07:20 |
Freddie was a very successful singer for Queen but when he went solo he found it so so hard and sadly his album struggled. The same will happen to Lambert when that fine day comes and he quits singing in a karaoke group, he will be on his ass. |
Vocal harmony 19.06.2018 17:09 |
happystar wrote: Freddie was a very successful singer for Queen but when he went solo he found it so so hard and sadly his album struggled. The same will happen to Lambert when that fine day comes and he quits singing in a karaoke group, he will be on his ass.Why is this comment even in this thread? The reason it was so so had or Freddie to sell his album was that he simply wasn't a bigger name than Queen. He also lacked the input of the other three when recording the album as a solo artist, in the position of making all the decisions. Of course I'm sure someone will question this in a pretty expected way! |
runner_70 19.06.2018 17:29 |
Back to topic: Stay away from this mess as far as you possibly can |
Star* 19.06.2018 17:43 |
VH you talk utter drivel again, Freddie was bigger than the other three easily, he was the first in the band to score a number one for nine weeks with Bohemian Rhapsody, He was the first in the band to get an ivor novello award for Killer Queen and as you should know he took over the whole Queen legacy from Crest to brand. He was also the most easily recognisable member of the band. Ask anyone who is Freddie Mercury and they will say lead singer in Queen. |
liveistheshow 21.06.2018 07:12 |
So folks. I should have anticipated that the discussion might stray away from my original question, but I thank everybody for the advice given. I am already at work, the concert was yesterday. And it was simply awesome. I must say I am terribly thankful for having changed my mind and decided to go to the concert. It was a great experience. At first, it took a while to get used to Lambert. Yes, he is nowhere near Mercurys singing voice. And he has (from my point of view at least) a slightly different stage persona than Freddie. He seemed more flamboyant, more pronounced. And thats okay. At first, it was a bit difficult when you know the voice and songs of Freddie..but they are sung by someone else. At some points thoughts popped up in my head in which my mind presented me the way Freddie had sung the song, which was then accompanied with some regret. But mostly it was allright. Lambert did not ruin the songs for me. Though he was not a competition voicewise and Freddy (for me) also had a more compelling stage-personality, I can see why they chose him. I guess anybody who would go to a Q+PL-concert and asking "yeah how will he match up to Freddy?" is bound to be disappointed, which I could totally understand. Of course, there were millions of songs which they did not play. After all, we're talking about a band who published music for over 20 years. So yeah. I think it might be hard for some fans to distinguish that, although the name Queen is on it, they are not touring as Queen (wich would imply that maybe they'd also play lesser known songs from time to time) but as Q+AL, they are bound to stick to the more known songs, I guess. It is a celebration of Queen. I would have loved to hear other songs as well, but yeah. I do not know for how long the guys will be doing this, but I guess, not too long. So I just revel in the knowledge of having heard some of their songs by 50 % of the original band. And I was also by the way they integrated Freddy in the show for these two or three occurences. It had me on the verge of shedding tears. All in all, thanks for that wonderful experience. |
Star* 21.06.2018 10:11 |
liveistheshow : Well glad you enjoyed the experience of the show. Brian & Roger always deliver a good show but unlike you i could not bare to hear those songs sung by someone else as your right it is rather upsetting. My last Queen show was back in 1986 and for me the Queen chapter is closed. |
Vocal harmony 22.06.2018 09:53 |
liveistheshow wrote: So folks. I should have anticipated that the discussion might stray away from my original question, but I thank everybody for the advice given. I am already at work, the concert was yesterday. And it was simply awesome. I must say I am terribly thankful for having changed my mind and decided to go to the concert. It was a great experience. At first, it took a while to get used to Lambert. Yes, he is nowhere near Mercurys singing voice. And he has (from my point of view at least) a slightly different stage persona than Freddie. He seemed more flamboyant, more pronounced. And thats okay. At first, it was a bit difficult when you know the voice and songs of Freddie..but they are sung by someone else. At some points thoughts popped up in my head in which my mind presented me the way Freddie had sung the song, which was then accompanied with some regret. But mostly it was allright. Lambert did not ruin the songs for me. Though he was not a competition voicewise and Freddy (for me) also had a more compelling stage-personality, I can see why they chose him. I guess anybody who would go to a Q+PL-concert and asking "yeah how will he match up to Freddy?" is bound to be disappointed, which I could totally understand. Of course, there were millions of songs which they did not play. After all, we're talking about a band who published music for over 20 years. So yeah. I think it might be hard for some fans to distinguish that, although the name Queen is on it, they are not touring as Queen (wich would imply that maybe they'd also play lesser known songs from time to time) but as Q+AL, they are bound to stick to the more known songs, I guess. It is a celebration of Queen. I would have loved to hear other songs as well, but yeah. I do not know for how long the guys will be doing this, but I guess, not too long. So I just revel in the knowledge of having heard some of their songs by 50 % of the original band. And I was also by the way they integrated Freddy in the show for these two or three occurences. It had me on the verge of shedding tears. All in all, thanks for that wonderful experience.Good photo. Glad you decided to go, and that you enjoyed it. YouTube really does it no justice, you can't beat being part of the experience. |
runner_70 23.06.2018 09:22 |
What experience? Of a twat destroying Queen songs? |
rockchic65 23.06.2018 11:04 |
runner_70 wrote: What experience? Of a twat destroying Queen songs?Happystar doesn't like Adam or the collaboration but he managed to just say glad you enjoyed the show and not crap on the guys experience even though it's the last thing he would have wanted to watch, but the fact you can't even do that, or better still say nothing at all really does make your opinion worthless. |
Star* 23.06.2018 11:07 |
Rockchic i only dislike Adam in the Queen setting, but i think if he broke away and carved out a proper solo career from Queen then i would give him more credit. He has a strong voice for his own music, and he should be doing less and less with Queen to improve on his solo career. |
rockchic65 23.06.2018 17:31 |
happystar wrote: Rockchic i only dislike Adam in the Queen setting, but i think if he broke away and carved out a proper solo career from Queen then i would give him more credit. He has a strong voice for his own music, and he should be doing less and less with Queen to improve on his solo career.I'm sure he will in time but he knows Brian & Roger love touring and still getting to play for people and whilst they still can it would be pretty crass after being given the opportunity of working with them to just leave and say well it's time to do my own thing now so see ya. They've become friends now not just work colleagues and I'm sure he enjoys touring with them as much as they love it so whilst they still want to I can't see him stopping. He said something to that effect in a recent interview, I just can't remember which one, although he did say he'll likely be concentrating on his solo stuff next year. |
Star* 23.06.2018 17:49 |
sounds to me that Queen will be slowing down next year if Lambert is concentrating on the solo album Brian & Roger should concentrate on exclusive Queen projects that involve Freddie & John like lost recordings and albums. |
rockchic65 23.06.2018 18:23 |
happystar wrote: sounds to me that Queen will be slowing down next year if Lambert is concentrating on the solo album Brian & Roger should concentrate on exclusive Queen projects that involve Freddie & John like lost recordings and albums.I'd agree with that, they've been touring non stop for what seems ages now, it's time for a break for all of them. Much as people are keen on the shows there's a limit to how many times you are gonna see the same show so a break for a while is a good idea and if it gives Brian & Roger some time to delve into the archives I'm all for that. |
Iron Butterfly 23.06.2018 20:00 |
happystar wrote: sounds to me that Queen will be slowing down next year if Lambert is concentrating on the solo album Brian & Roger should concentrate on exclusive Queen projects that involve Freddie & John like lost recordings and albums.I don't expect his solo music will set the world alight, so I'm sure he will find the time for more Q+AL shows. Bit of a shame he has put his own music on the back burner for years now. One thing I don't like at all about Q+AL is that is took Brian's and Roger's time from Queen related things, especially the things that could be left n the vaults. Rainbow was an an amazing release and product, I hope there is more footage and music left in the vaults that Brian and Roger can focus on. |
Star* 23.06.2018 20:46 |
ironbutterfly: yeah i agree Brian & Roger could have toured 3 years max with Adam then work on Queen and unearthing what we all want which is unheard material even from there own personal collections at home, even Freddie said there was loads of stuff left over from The Miracle sessions that never made the final cut. How many more songs are running around after past albums i wonder? |
runner_70 23.06.2018 22:20 |
Lamebert sucks with or without Maylor - once QAL is done Lamebird is finally done and will never be worth mentioneing anywhere which is a good sign and a relief for every serious music lover. |
Iron Butterfly 23.06.2018 23:20 |
happystar wrote: ironbutterfly: yeah i agree Brian & Roger could have toured 3 years max with Adam then work on Queen and unearthing what we all want which is unheard material even from there own personal collections at home, even Freddie said there was loads of stuff left over from The Miracle sessions that never made the final cut. How many more songs are running around after past albums i wonder?I am going to be honest. Q+AL has lasted longer than I thought it would. First and foremost, I'm a Queen and Freddie fan. It's a shame to me, that Brian and Roger don't seem to be digging in vaults more Rainbow surprised the heck out of me in the best way possible. Queen on Air was also good. That's he type of product that captures and keeps my attention. |
runner_70 24.06.2018 07:56 |
THats my other main gripe (apart from Lamefart being crappy and ridiculous) that instead of doing this travesty they could have released vault stuff. |
Vocal harmony 25.06.2018 09:59 |
runner_70 wrote: What experience? Of a twat destroying Queen songs?No the experience and excitement of being present at a live gig. It doesn't concern you as it was directed at someone who went and enjoyed the experience, rather than you who is full of hate and abusive comments towards someone you've never met. You're achieving nothing and looking pretty stupid because no amount of insults will stop people buying tickets and going to these shows. |
runner_70 27.06.2018 10:29 |
Why should I meet the tool? Just to tell him he sucks when singing (not only Queen songs but overall) - or should I tell him he looks like a fat trans Elvis and is ridiculing my fave band. Whats your fave? |
rockchic65 27.06.2018 10:47 |
runner_70 wrote: Why should I meet the tool? Just to tell him he sucks when singing (not only Queen songs but overall) - or should I tell him he looks like a fat trans Elvis and is ridiculing my fave band. Whats your fave?Your hatred of him goes way beyond just not liking the collaboration and is completely unfounded. Dislike his voice, singing style, how he acts onstage, whatever, but you're completely wrong about him as a person and he's done absolutely nothing to warrant the hatred you spew constantly. |
Vocal harmony 28.06.2018 11:24 |
rockchic65 wrote:IT depends on your intelligence level, and his is low enough to keep the insults flowing.runner_70 wrote: Why should I meet the tool? Just to tell him he sucks when singing (not only Queen songs but overall) - or should I tell him he looks like a fat trans Elvis and is ridiculing my fave band. Whats your fave?Your hatred of him goes way beyond just not liking the collaboration and is completely unfounded. Dislike his voice, singing style, how he acts onstage, whatever, but you're completely wrong about him as a person and he's done absolutely nothing to warrant the hatred you spew constantly. |
runner_70 28.06.2018 13:19 |
No insults just plain facts |
runner_70 28.06.2018 13:21 |
The guy is an insult in intself. o Music and especially to any real Queen fan. When I see him with Maylor I have to pinch myselt eacht time - wtf are they thinking teaming up with this tool? U N F U C K I N B E L I E V A B L E - just a joke. It ridiculous just watching them |
snifflese 28.06.2018 14:18 |
Save yourself some time by not watching (why would you do that, if you hate QAL????) and even more time, by not posting your crap! |
runner_70 28.06.2018 15:34 |
as you are a delusional Glambird with no music taste I forgive you your insults |
Vocal harmony 29.06.2018 14:57 |
runner_70 wrote: The guy is an insult in intself. o Music and especially to any real Queen fan. When I see him with Maylor I have to pinch myselt eacht time - wtf are they thinking teaming up with this tool? U N F U C K I N B E L I E V A B L E - just a joke. It ridiculous just watching themNo. That's just your narrow minded insulting view, which we've all read countless times. Stop speaking for other people to try and justify your argument. I'm a real Queen fan, have been since the early 70's. These show are great, I know a lot of people who think the same. I've also spoken to a lot of musicians who think the same. I've also spoken to people who don't have an interest in these tours, but we have always had an intelligent discussion about it, something you can't do. . . .obviously. |
Star* 29.06.2018 18:53 |
Vocal Harmony : Everyone does not approve like you say they do. loads of euro Queen fans dislike on facebook, and there is even an Adam Lambert hate page! Sorry to burst your bubble but this new Queen + is nothing like the classic Queen years and it is a poor version of it. Queen are done so get used to it. They maybe still going but they have lost the magic. |
snifflese 29.06.2018 19:32 |
I think you will find the same 100 fans everywhere with several names posting negative stuff. Kind of like you do. The percentage of Fans who absolutely hate QAL are really not that large a number in contrast to the concert goers. Believe whatever you want, but you are full of it! I just wish you would go away! |
Star* 29.06.2018 21:39 |
snifflese You and the other two on here are the only ones who support Lambert on Queenzone and nobody else gives a fig about him, so what does that mean then? i have read loads of negatives about Lambert on facebook about how fake he is and how arrogant he is especially that appearance on james cordance show where Lambert was screeching like a constipated goat singing somebody to love. sorry to burst your ignorant bubble love but Lambert is nothing if Queen were not there to back him up. |
rockchic65 29.06.2018 21:48 |
happystar wrote: snifflese You and the other two on here are the only ones who support Lambert on Queenzone and nobody else gives a fig about him, so what does that mean then? i have read loads of negatives about Lambert on facebook about how fake he is and how arrogant he is especially that appearance on james cordance show where Lambert was screeching like a constipated goat singing somebody to love. sorry to burst your ignorant bubble love but Lambert is nothing if Queen were not there to back him up.While reading those few negative comments on facebook, from the same handful of people who post over and over, you must have missed all the positive ones from people after the shows and all the longtime Queen fans who defend him now against said negative comments. That's the part that makes me laugh tbh, the naysayers are actually making even die hard Queen fans defend him more, if only they realized. And seriously, that James Corden thing is funny, no one who knows anything about him thinks he's actually arrogant and being serious, it's a skit. |
Star* 30.06.2018 07:23 |
rockchic: no it was not the same people disliking Adam, it was different people. Sure i know many are easily pleased with whoever takes vocals in Queen as long as they get to see Brian & Roger, but really after such a massive iconic figure as Freddie Mercury it would and is stupidity to continue a band under the same name. They are no where near as brilliant as they were say back in 1986 and for me i find now they look lost and empty on that stage. |
rockchic65 30.06.2018 08:41 |
happystar wrote: rockchic: no it was not the same people disliking Adam, it was different people. Sure i know many are easily pleased with whoever takes vocals in Queen as long as they get to see Brian & Roger, but really after such a massive iconic figure as Freddie Mercury it would and is stupidity to continue a band under the same name. They are no where near as brilliant as they were say back in 1986 and for me i find now they look lost and empty on that stage.If that really were the case the only people going to the shows would be glamberts and casual Queen fans who've heard odd Queen songs on adverts etc, but the reality is there's loads of longtime Queen fans going and not just once. I know you find it hard to imagine any real Queen fan wanting to see them but they do. There are gonna be some who don't like him and some who'll never accept him but there's a lot who've gone reluctantly just to see Brian & Roger and come away loving him. No one thinks it's like it was back in the day obviously, and they don't go expecting it to be but it's still a great show if you don't compare and just enjoy it for what it is. |
Star* 30.06.2018 11:16 |
Sure there is Queen fans who are attending but many go to just see Brian & Roger perform. Others (mainly girls and grannies) go to swoon over Lambert but i am one who puts talent before looks, still horses for courses eh ! |
rockchic65 30.06.2018 12:13 |
happystar wrote: Sure there is Queen fans who are attending but many go to just see Brian & Roger perform. Others (mainly girls and grannies) go to swoon over Lambert but i am one who puts talent before looks, still horses for courses eh !Well I'm a girl (well old enough to be a grannie but I'm not one) but I'm interested purely in the music and talent, looks don't come into it for me, I've never understood how someone could go to a gig purely because of how the singer/band looks regardless what they sound like, the two are separate things for me, but like you say horses for courses. |
snifflese 30.06.2018 17:54 |
I think the vast majority of grannies swoon over his voice, first and foremost. Then a little eye candy never hurt anyone! |
Iron Butterfly 30.06.2018 18:05 |
rockchic65 wrote:Well, considering how vast and legendary some of Queens back catalogue is, I hope that people who go to these shows do it because of the music, and not how AL looks.happystar wrote: Sure there is Queen fans who are attending but many go to just see Brian & Roger perform. Others (mainly girls and grannies) go to swoon over Lambert but i am one who puts talent before looks, still horses for courses eh !Well I'm a girl (well old enough to be a grannie but I'm not one) but I'm interested purely in the music and talent, looks don't come into it for me, I've never understood how someone could go to a gig purely because of how the singer/band looks regardless what they sound like, the two are separate things for me, but like you say horses for courses. |
Star* 01.07.2018 08:53 |
Just look at the artists who have made millions purely based upon looks and how girls fancy and lust after them like, Take That, Justin Bieber, Boyzone, Five, Backstreet Boys, etc..... Lambert is no different. He has no special talent he is just a wannabe would got lucky, i have seen better singers in pubs. |
rockchic65 01.07.2018 09:49 |
happystar wrote: Just look at the artists who have made millions purely based upon looks and how girls fancy and lust after them like, Take That, Justin Bieber, Boyzone, Five, Backstreet Boys, etc..... Lambert is no different. He has no special talent he is just a wannabe would got lucky, i have seen better singers in pubs.Wow you must have some great pubs where you live, care to share the names of these fabulous singers/bands, I'm always on the lookout for brilliant pub acts, I go to see a lot. I agree they all have fans and a lot of girls, especially younger ones are as or more interested in looks than talent, but apart from Adam's own fans these shows are also full of older Queen fans like myself, I'm pretty sure most of them aren't there because they think Adam's pretty or whatever. His personality and likeability on the other hand probably does help, but they still all rave about his vocals. And I was serious about the pub acts, I love going to pub/club gigs. |
snifflese 01.07.2018 14:24 |
You may have noticed when people tweet and post on social media, they almost always mention his extraordinary vocals. I just don't see that with other performers. Yea, he is a handsome man, but the focus always seems to be that extraordinary voice. It isn't normal for people to mention things like that on social media platforms, but for Adam they almost always do. Gotta be a reason for that!! |
Star* 01.07.2018 14:24 |
If Queen members were not there then 99% of Queen fans would not attend to see Adam, so you see it is not just Lambert they mainly go to see it is the fact that May & Taylor are 50% of the greatest rock group to have graced a stage from 1971 and Freddie made a name for the boys. The rest is history and without Queen today Lambert would be no where as near close to the music industry as he is now. |
Star* 01.07.2018 14:27 |
Freddie has a better voice than Adam but we all know Lambert is saturated in hype because Brian started all that crap to get bums on seats. |
snifflese 01.07.2018 15:34 |
If you think 99% of the fans at each show are just there for Queen, you are even more dense than I thought! You wouldn't believe the Adam fans that go all over the world to see him. Of course, there are way more Queen fans, but Adam has quite a few himself! |
rockchic65 01.07.2018 16:13 |
happystar wrote: If Queen members were not there then 99% of Queen fans would not attend to see Adam, so you see it is not just Lambert they mainly go to see it is the fact that May & Taylor are 50% of the greatest rock group to have graced a stage from 1971 and Freddie made a name for the boys. The rest is history and without Queen today Lambert would be no where as near close to the music industry as he is now.Well obviously Queen fans go because it's Brian & Roger and Queen music, they wouldn't be going to see Adam solo, his music is so different that bar the one's who've seen him and now say they would see him solo, (and there are quite a few) most wouldn't be interested in his pop music. But if he couldn't sing or they didn't like how he put the songs over, acted on stage etc, there isn't that many who would keep going regardless. Seriously, how many longtime Queen fans who go these shows would still go if they replaced him with Beiber or Britney Spears? I'm guessing not many. |
Star* 01.07.2018 16:30 |
Ha ha Beiber is just as painful a singer as Lambert and Britney Spears is a plastic bubblegum pop artist. All these American novelty artists cant hold a candle to out British Freddie Mercury. |
snifflese 01.07.2018 16:57 |
Dude, Beiber and Britney can't sing. Adam sings amazingly, as well as world class opera singers, Voice and technique wise there is not much difference between Freddie and Adam. And actually Adam has much better technique, as he was trained for many years. It is a matter of which kind of voice do you prefer to hear? Their tone and timbre is much different, but the range is similar. Freddie's voice is deeper, more raspy, falsetto, a more true rock voice. Adam's is a tenor, with a light and airy quality to his voice at times. He rarely sings in falsetto as he can hit those high notes in mixed voice, which very few males can. But as far as actual power and noise producing, there isn't much difference. People would not come out to see Queen if a generic voice were singing. It is the fact that Adam's voice fits Queens huge catalog so well, that is making this a lasing thing. And of course, they love touring together. |
rockchic65 01.07.2018 17:09 |
happystar wrote: Ha ha Beiber is just as painful a singer as Lambert and Britney Spears is a plastic bubblegum pop artist. All these American novelty artists cant hold a candle to out British Freddie Mercury.Britney can't sing live and Beiber whilst he can sing doesn't have the range or power to do Queen songs but according to your theory that wouldn't matter in the slightest since people would still flock to the shows to see Brian & Roger. |
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Star* 01.07.2018 19:27 |
Snifflese : Adam & Freddie do NOT have similar voices or techniques, how dare you say that. Mercury is regarded as the greatest male rock voice ever, Lambert has NOT got a rock voice and if he was trained then he needs to get hos money back because he was robbed. Freddie never had any training to his voice it was a gift from god and he taught himself piano. Lambert can only dream of been a rock god like Mercury for it will never happen in a million years. Id say Lambert sounds more like Bon Scott who was the first singer in AC/.DC. Lambert screeches like him as well. |
rockchic65 01.07.2018 19:39 |
happystar wrote: Snifflese : Adam & Freddie do NOT have similar voices or techniques, how dare you say that. Mercury is regarded as the greatest male rock voice ever, Lambert has NOT got a rock voice and if he was trained then he needs to get hos money back because he was robbed. Freddie never had any training to his voice it was a gift from god and he taught himself piano. Lambert can only dream of been a rock god like Mercury for it will never happen in a million years. Id say Lambert sounds more like Bon Scott who was the first singer in AC/.DC. Lambert screeches like him as well.Bit of a contradiction there, you say he hasn't got a rock voice then say he sounds like Bon Scott who if I'm not mistaken was a rock singer, hard rock as it goes for the most part. Adam is nothing like Bon, and his way of singing is the complete opposite, he sings with an open mouth, the way classical singers are taught, no one could say that of Bon Scott. You don't like his singing but to say he needs his money back is just daft. Whether you like how he sings is a different matter but he's incredibly talented and to say otherwise shows a lack of knowledge about singing. |
snifflese 01.07.2018 20:24 |
One thing Adam never does is screech anymore! On Idol there were a few screechy songs, but that was a long time ago. I love heavy metal and that is my sweet spot and there is a lot of screeching there, so I know what I am talking about when I say Adam doesn't screech. A lot of the divas screech, IMO, when they go for the high notes. Adam hits those high notes cleanly and so melodically. There are no pop or rock singers that do that. To say otherwise just means you can't hear or you are just so overwhelmed with your dislike of him that you can't be fair. You can say a lot of other things about his voice, but he never screeches and he has an extraordinary voice. we get you don't like him, but why post negative crap all the time (most of which isn't even close to being true?). Most people avoid things when they don't care for them! |
rockchic65 01.07.2018 20:53 |
snifflese wrote: One thing Adam never does is screech anymore! On Idol there were a few screechy songs, but that was a long time ago. I love heavy metal and that is my sweet spot and there is a lot of screeching there, so I know what I am talking about when I say Adam doesn't screech. A lot of the divas screech, IMO, when they go for the high notes. Adam hits those high notes cleanly and so melodically. There are no pop or rock singers that do that. To say otherwise just means you can't hear or you are just so overwhelmed with your dislike of him that you can't be fair. You can say a lot of other things about his voice, but he never screeches and he has an extraordinary voice. we get you don't like him, but why post negative crap all the time (most of which isn't even close to being true?). Most people avoid things when they don't care for them!Have you ever heard of Avantasia, kind of opera/metal, I've always thought Adam would be awesome at that. |
Star* 01.07.2018 20:59 |
Ha why dont you stop making out that Lambert is greater than Freddie when he is no where near. i dont hear of Lambert winning any greatest male vocalists awards, so he cannot be that great can he. Sorry but he does scream like a silly girl and he does it with his mouth open and you can see his tongue like a lizard yuk. |
runner_70 01.07.2018 21:23 |
Avantasia are great and Lamefart would not hold a candle to any of those involved. Screaming like a silly girl hits the nail on its ugly head. Too bad it is queen songs he is raping. |
rockchic65 01.07.2018 21:33 |
happystar wrote: Ha why dont you stop making out that Lambert is greater than Freddie when he is no where near. i dont hear of Lambert winning any greatest male vocalists awards, so he cannot be that great can he. Sorry but he does scream like a silly girl and he does it with his mouth open and you can see his tongue like a lizard yuk.I'm not making out he's better than Freddie but I do say he has amazing technical ability. Winning awards doesn't mean much, Taylor Swift must be the best vocalist on the planet, far and above your Freddie's and Plant's of the world if awards are a measure of talent. As to screaming, I'm gonna guess you don't know that much about singing from a technical standpoint, because if you do you would know what Adam does isn't screaming and even when he deliberately does, it's in key, there's actual notes there. Here check this out to see what actual screaming is as opposed to what Adam does and there's no way the high notes on STL etc is screaming. I'll give you he sticks his tongue out sometimes, to give more space for the high notes. This is one of the guys from the season of Idol Adam was on and he decided for rock week to do Aerosmiths Dream On - now that is what's called a scream and not one you'd ever hear Tyler do. link |
rockchic65 01.07.2018 21:37 |
runner_70 wrote: Avantasia are great and Lamefart would not hold a candle to any of those involved. Screaming like a silly girl hits the nail on its ugly head. Too bad it is queen songs he is raping.You obviously don't know much about singing either, Adam trained in opera for a while and has the kind of voice suited to metal, as everyone likes to point out, so the two together opera/metal would be in his wheelhouse. I'm guessing he wouldn't want to but that's a different thing, You need to watch the vid I just posted, that's screaming and nothing remotely like what Adam does. If you seriously can't tell the difference then it's no wonder you call him so much. |
Iron Butterfly 01.07.2018 23:45 |
rockchic65 wrote:I don't want to dredge up any past debates, but I used to say AL didn't have the voice for hard rock rock music. I have to give hm some credit, and say he has improved.runner_70 wrote: Avantasia are great and Lamefart would not hold a candle to any of those involved. Screaming like a silly girl hits the nail on its ugly head. Too bad it is queen songs he is raping.You obviously don't know much about singing either, Adam trained in opera for a while and has the kind of voice suited to metal, as everyone likes to point out, so the two together opera/metal would be in his wheelhouse. I'm guessing he wouldn't want to but that's a different thing, You need to watch the vid I just posted, that's screaming and nothing remotely like what Adam does. If you seriously can't tell the difference then it's no wonder you call him so much. But AL having the voice for metal? I don't think he has the angst that it takes for him to do that genre well. Stone Cold Crazy for example...it's like he is acting all the way through it, IMO. |
rockchic65 02.07.2018 00:17 |
Iron Butterfly wrote: I don't want to dredge up any past debates, but I used to say AL didn't have the voice for hard rock rock music. I have to give hm some credit, and say he has improved. But AL having the voice for metal? I don't think he has the angst that it takes for him to do that genre well. Stone Cold Crazy for example...it's like he is acting all the way through it, IMO.The way Adam approaches Queen songs for the shows is a choice, he decided that being a theatrical band that's how he'd sing them. There's also the fact that despite him being able to do a lot of crazy stuff with his voice, he can't do it consistently every night, not without doing some damage and he knows it's his living so he's careful. The Queen set is demanding vocally, he's strategic in the way he does it but he can sing in various different ways when he chooses. I do think his voice could suit the more operatic metal, (not sure if you've heard Avantasia but it's not the Pantera type of thing), if he wanted, but coming from a classical background he's probably well aware it could limit his longevity, it's hardly kind to the vocal chords. I agree about the angst, he's just far too into having fun and being lighthearted IMO. I can't remember where but I'm pretty sure he once said he isn't really into listening to metal much at all, he's more into blues. |
snifflese 02.07.2018 00:48 |
mrwillismanTonight's @officialqueenmusic and @adamlambert gig was absolutely immense. I had an awesome time and would say easily it was the best gig I've ever been to. Whether or not you're a Queen fan, I would seriously suggests any musician, tech or live production peeps watch these guys in action. It's incredible! The production, the show structure, the control of the room pre, during and post gig, the musicianship, the structure of the set, the songs, the branding. Just music professionals who seriously know how to entertain an audience. That's why they still sell out stadiums and arenas to this day. Adam Lambert's voice is just incredible and his showmanship is second to none. Pics and vids to follow. But I just had to say, if you are going to aspire to be a live music professional, the schooling is right there in Queen. #Queen #QAL #AdamLambert #Wembley #London This is for the runner and Happywhatever. You ought to check the tweets, instagrams and all the social media after Wembley today. This one touches all aspecits of the QAL ecxperience, but there are so many references to Adam and his voice. That just isn't normal for a concert and it is because he has an amazing voice. Icy, SCC isn't metal. It is heavier rock and I grant you that is not Adam's strong poin BUT it is 100% better than when he began singing Queen. I think he does a more than credible job with that genre of music. I think he has been working on his lower register and as a male ages, the voice does deepen, which in his case is quite helpful. SCC is not one of my favs and I would drop it personally as there are other songs more suited to his voice, but I still enjoy it and think it is much improved. Avantasia or the female in Evanescens (sp) and Ed Head woud be great for his voice. There is lots of really high heavy metal where his voice could soar. But as Rock Chic said it takes its toll and Adam is nothing if not careful with his voice. I am surprised he is doing both WWTLF and TSMGO. That is a lot of heavy duty singing in the Queen show. Not many could do that show after show and still sound wonderful. I heard Martel at the end of a tour and it wasn't pretty. Neither was Freddie's voice actually in some concerts. I never got to see him. I just had records and I was so surprised after reading on the Queen forums and then looked up youtubes and actually heard him singing at big concerts. He sang in different keys and sounded different from the recordings. Huge surprise for me! |
snifflese 02.07.2018 01:11 |
Actually I meant Ed Guy. Haven't thought of them in a while, but my younger son had all their stuff! While I was standing and doing dishes I was thinking about what I would like Adam to sing and Ozzie and Black Sabbath came to mind. Hallowed be thy Name by Maiden (actually anything by Maiden would be awesome!). I could see him fronting a band singing these kinds of songs! I am also a classical lover and would love to hear him sing something by Bocelli or Nessun Dorma. Then to be totally ridiculous ( for some of you) I would love to hear Adam sing Ave Maria or O Holy Night at Christmas. What I wouldn't give for that, as I am a huge Christmas lover (dumb, I know!!). I even have Judas Priest's Christmas album from a few years ago if that tells you anything! There are so many more challenging songs to sing than what Adam sings as far as his music goes. Anybody can do that stuff. The reason I like him singing Queen is that it matches his voice capability, I guess! Ridicule me all you want, but there is so much more out there for Adam to sink his teeth into and I hope he will do so with his new music. And I am NOT saying I didn't like his own stuff. I own them all and listen to them and enjoy them, but he is not pushing his vocal boundaries! However, as a fan, I will be happy with anything he releases, as I just love his voice. It gives me goose bumps!! |
rockchic65 02.07.2018 06:17 |
snifflese wrote: Actually I meant Ed Guy. Haven't thought of them in a while, but my younger son had all their stuff! While I was standing and doing dishes I was thinking about what I would like Adam to sing and Ozzie and Black Sabbath came to mind. Hallowed be thy Name by Maiden (actually anything by Maiden would be awesome!). I could see him fronting a band singing these kinds of songs! I am also a classical lover and would love to hear him sing something by Bocelli or Nessun Dorma. Then to be totally ridiculous ( for some of you) I would love to hear Adam sing Ave Maria or O Holy Night at Christmas. What I wouldn't give for that, as I am a huge Christmas lover (dumb, I know!!). I even have Judas Priest's Christmas album from a few years ago if that tells you anything! There are so many more challenging songs to sing than what Adam sings as far as his music goes. Anybody can do that stuff. The reason I like him singing Queen is that it matches his voice capability, I guess! Ridicule me all you want, but there is so much more out there for Adam to sink his teeth into and I hope he will do so with his new music. And I am NOT saying I didn't like his own stuff. I own them all and listen to them and enjoy them, but he is not pushing his vocal boundaries! However, as a fan, I will be happy with anything he releases, as I just love his voice. It gives me goose bumps!!I agree about his own stuff not pushing his vocal abilities although some of it is hard to sing, just not in the same way Queen music is, I love the powerful dramatic stuff. I'm with you on O Holy Night, I heard him sing the first four lines on a Chinese show, no music and only one of those radio mic's you use for talking but I thought straight away he'd really suit that one. |
Star* 02.07.2018 13:50 |
Rockchic: i dont want to see your silly downloads to justify Lambert, fact is he is not right for Queen. He would be good in musicals though, but he looks so lost on the world stages and he has no idea how to command an audience like our dear Freddie had. |
rockchic65 02.07.2018 15:56 |
happystar wrote: Rockchic: i dont want to see your silly downloads to justify Lambert, fact is he is not right for Queen. He would be good in musicals though, but he looks so lost on the world stages and he has no idea how to command an audience like our dear Freddie had.He has no trouble commanding the audience he just does it in a totally different way to how Freddie did it. That's a good thing, I for one don't want a copy, no one could do what Freddie did so I much prefer someone to have their own way of doing things. Doesn't make it bad, it's like going to see any band, they all do things differently but they're good in their own way. I wouldn't go to see U2 and expect Bono to act like Freddie but he's still good, there isn't just one way of doing things. |
Star* 02.07.2018 18:23 |
Rockchic So if Adam Lambert had been included in Live Aid back in 1985 do you think he would have stolen Freddies thunder? |
SweetCaroline 02.07.2018 18:33 |
Adam was only 3 years old in 1985! LOL |
runner_70 02.07.2018 18:59 |
Its Edguy not Eh HEad or Ed Guy. Get a life and learn your lessons. SCC was the forerunner of speed Metal and Lamebird is failing miserably on this one (liek on all others btw) His voice fits Queen songs like Adele does Metallica. And Adele at least is original and writes her own songs. Lamefart is a failure thru and thru and until know noone gives a shit about him. Queen fans go for Maylor and dont care who is singing even if its a no talent hack liek Lamebert. |
rockchic65 02.07.2018 19:02 |
happystar wrote: Rockchic So if Adam Lambert had been included in Live Aid back in 1985 do you think he would have stolen Freddies thunder?Well of course not why would he? No one stole Freddie's thunder, it was probably his most iconic performance. But Freddie isn't here and like I've said it's not a competition, no one's comparing him that's my point, he's just a different type of person. |
rockchic65 02.07.2018 19:10 |
runner_70 wrote: Its Edguy not Eh HEad or Ed Guy. Get a life and learn your lessons. SCC was the forerunner of speed Metal and Lamebird is failing miserably on this one (liek on all others btw) His voice fits Queen songs like Adele does Metallica. And Adele at least is original and writes her own songs. Lamefart is a failure thru and thru and until know noone gives a shit about him. Queen fans go for Maylor and dont care who is singing even if its a no talent hack liek Lamebert.Back to talking rubbish I see. Yes SCC is metal, we know, and Adam sings it his own way but no one at the shows seem to mind. You can keep saying he's rubbish but the fans who actually go to the shows tell a very different tale, and even if there's an odd song that isn't his strength there's a whole host he does amazing. |
SweetCaroline 02.07.2018 19:22 |
I love Stone Cold Crazy and Adam does a great performance of it !!!!! |
SweetCaroline 02.07.2018 19:23 |
I love Stone Cold Crazy and Adam does a great performance of it !!!!! |
SweetCaroline 02.07.2018 19:23 |
I love Stone Cold Crazy and Adam does a great performance of it !!!!! |
runner_70 02.07.2018 21:03 |
SCC is proof (of many) That Lamebert just does one thing: S U C K I N G |
SweetCaroline 02.07.2018 23:04 |
Here’s the truth about Adele’s “25” album: link |
Iron Butterfly 03.07.2018 00:25 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Here’s the truth about Adele’s “25” album: linkAlmost anyone can edit and add to Wiki. Hardly truth. But what "truth" are you trying to point out? What does Adele have do with things being discussed today? |
Iron Butterfly 03.07.2018 00:27 |
runner_70 wrote: SCC is proof (of many) That Lamebert just does one thing: S U C K I N GSCC isn't his strong point at all. Personally, I think it's the worst of the heavier songs he does. |
SweetCaroline 03.07.2018 02:15 |
I love Adam singing SCC but I don’t mind that he is singing Tear It Up, Seven Seas Of Rhye and Play The Game instead. My point in posting the info on Adele is that she has had help in writing her songs, she was having a mental block and it took her from 2013 to 2015 to get it done. So stop dissing Adam about HIS song writing. He hasn’t exactly been laying around in a hammock since The Original High was released! |
Iron Butterfly 03.07.2018 05:32 |
SweetCaroline wrote: I love Adam singing SCC but I don’t mind that he is singing Tear It Up, Seven Seas Of Rhye and Play The Game instead. My point in posting the info on Adele is that she has had help in writing her songs, she was having a mental block and it took her from 2013 to 2015 to get it done. So stop dissing Adam about HIS song writing. He hasn’t exactly been laying around in a hammock since The Original High was released!Oh, so you wanted another reason aka excuse to bitch about Adele. I'm well aware Adele wrote with other people. I have all her albums. Would you act like this if AL ever had writers block and would take him awhile to finish an album? One of those days, sweetcaroline, your bitterness is going to come back to bite you. I will "diss" AL when it takes four others writers and AL to come up with something like TwoFux. It's hardly his best work. Since TOH, he hasn't even released an album, and his main focus is Q+AL. |
SweetCaroline 03.07.2018 12:15 |
Icy my Adele post was directed at someone else here who was boasting about her song writing abilities. I don’t know why you think everything is about you. Her last album was in 2015 and so was Adam’s. They were both touring since then. In Adam’s case it was both for his solo music and QAL. |
runner_70 03.07.2018 18:29 |
Well at least Adele has had ega success - Lemafarts solo career has gone down the toilet, his albums suck, he has a writer's block constantly and hejust lost his recording contract. Noone goes to a QAL show to see Lamefart the goat. |
rockchic65 03.07.2018 18:35 |
runner_70 wrote: Well at least Adele has had ega success - Lemafarts solo career has gone down the toilet, his albums suck, he has a writer's block constantly and hejust lost his recording contract. Noone goes to a QAL show to see Lamefart the goat.He's been writing all year between gigs so no writers block and even if he had so what, so did Adele, it happens, and as to his contract, you do realize when you leave or get dropped by a label you can't officially go with another one for at least a year. Same thing happened with the last label, but he got snapped up as soon as he could sign with a new one. He's been singing with Queen to rave reviews and fans praising him everywhere, I doubt he'll have any trouble finding a new label. |
Iron Butterfly 03.07.2018 18:59 |
rockchic65 wrote:I didn't realise one could not sign to another record label for a full year after leaving or being dropped by a record company. That's pretty shitty.runner_70 wrote: Well at least Adele has had ega success - Lemafarts solo career has gone down the toilet, his albums suck, he has a writer's block constantly and hejust lost his recording contract. Noone goes to a QAL show to see Lamefart the goat.He's been writing all year between gigs so no writers block and even if he had so what, so did Adele, it happens, and as to his contract, you do realize when you leave or get dropped by a label you can't officially go with another one for at least a year. Same thing happened with the last label, but he got snapped up as soon as he could sign with a new one. He's been singing with Queen to rave reviews and fans praising him everywhere, I doubt he'll have any trouble finding a new label. |
rockchic65 03.07.2018 19:10 |
Iron Butterfly wrote:Yeah apparently it's written into the contract. I suspect that's why Adam suddenly went from saying his album was more or less finished to starting again, thought it seemed strange at the time. Every time he gets asked now he fudges a bit, which would make sense if he can't say anything at the moment. I heard as well that when you change label or are dropped the material you've already done is owned by them, not certain that's true but if so that would also tie in with him appearing to change direction and start again. I'd be well peed off if that is true.rockchic65 wrote:I didn't realise one could not sign to another record label for a full year after leaving or being dropped by a record company. That's pretty shitty.runner_70 wrote: Well at least Adele has had ega success - Lemafarts solo career has gone down the toilet, his albums suck, he has a writer's block constantly and hejust lost his recording contract. Noone goes to a QAL show to see Lamefart the goat.He's been writing all year between gigs so no writers block and even if he had so what, so did Adele, it happens, and as to his contract, you do realize when you leave or get dropped by a label you can't officially go with another one for at least a year. Same thing happened with the last label, but he got snapped up as soon as he could sign with a new one. He's been singing with Queen to rave reviews and fans praising him everywhere, I doubt he'll have any trouble finding a new label. |
Iron Butterfly 03.07.2018 19:19 |
rockchic65 wrote:Damn. That's complicated. It will be harder than I thought.Iron Butterfly wrote:Yeah apparently it's written into the contract. I suspect that's why Adam suddenly went from saying his album was more or less finished to starting again, thought it seemed strange at the time. Every time he gets asked now he fudges a bit, which would make sense if he can't say anything at the moment. I heard as well that when you change label or are dropped the material you've already done is owned by them, not certain that's true but if so that would also tie in with him appearing to change direction and start again. I'd be well peed off if that is true.rockchic65 wrote:I didn't realise one could not sign to another record label for a full year after leaving or being dropped by a record company. That's pretty shitty.runner_70 wrote: Well at least Adele has had ega success - Lemafarts solo career has gone down the toilet, his albums suck, he has a writer's block constantly and hejust lost his recording contract. Noone goes to a QAL show to see Lamefart the goat.He's been writing all year between gigs so no writers block and even if he had so what, so did Adele, it happens, and as to his contract, you do realize when you leave or get dropped by a label you can't officially go with another one for at least a year. Same thing happened with the last label, but he got snapped up as soon as he could sign with a new one. He's been singing with Queen to rave reviews and fans praising him everywhere, I doubt he'll have any trouble finding a new label. |
rockchic65 03.07.2018 19:36 |
Iron Butterfly wrote: Damn. That's complicated. It will be harder than I thought.My guess is he's probably already got a label lined up but can't officially sign or say anything yet. He recently said in interview about how the time has to be right when asked about new music, probably a subtle reference to the situation. Just my guess but a few things he's said have made me think there's a lot he can't say. |
Star* 03.07.2018 19:40 |
If Lambert has been dropped by his record company then it is due to poor sales and that proves no one is interested in his music? Queen are keeping this sinking swan a float for now then! |
rockchic65 03.07.2018 19:48 |
happystar wrote: If Lambert has been dropped by his record company then it is due to poor sales and that proves no one is interested in his music? Queen are keeping this sinking swan a float for now then!There's lots of reasons they drop you, especially if like Adam you just aren't willing to compromise, he walked away last time because they wanted him to do a covers album. A lot of things recently point to him having a difference of opinion on what he wants to do next and like he proved last time he isn't good at being told what to do. He's in a better position this time since the album was already out when he left before, so if he has to walk away and start again so be it, better that than put out some music he doesn't believe in. For the first time he recently admitted he didn't agree with the single put out off his second album but they wouldn't go with the one he wanted. My guess from his recent comments is that he's gonna wait until he gets to do things his way. Who knows he may even go independent if he has to. |
Sealion 03.07.2018 19:59 |
If Lambert really has to wait a year, before he can sign on another label, then he hasn‘t been dropped. This rule can only apply, when HE didn‘t fulfill a contract and left early. |
rockchic65 03.07.2018 20:05 |
Sealion wrote: If Lambert really has to wait a year, before he can sign on another label, then he hasn‘t been dropped. This rule can only apply, when HE didn‘t fulfill a contract and left early.I've heard the rule applies regardless who does the leaving but if that isn't the case then it wouldn't surprise me if he left, he really doesn't like being told what to do and I get the feeling he want's to go in a different direction musically, maybe they weren't on board with what he want's to do, though if he's intending going in a more blues/rock/soul direction I can't imagine why they wouldn't be. |
Sealion 03.07.2018 21:22 |
I don‘t know much about Lambert and his label(s). And I‘m not an insider of the music business. But from my knowledge, a label can‘t drop a client AND permit them to go to another label. If the client was a really struggling artist (and most musicians, who get dropped, are exactly that), they would permit him to earn money by recording music. That would be against the law. They can only do that as a penalty, when the musician leaves, before a contract is fulfilled or when he leaves early and they don‘t find another solution. |
runner_70 03.07.2018 21:41 |
How embarrassing can Glamtarts get to defend this loser? He has been dropped and can do what ever he wants - what a POS comment to say he cannot release anything withon a year . Bullcrap or you have his contract? And the comment "he did not compromise"??????? This wanker is a compromise in itself. He tried covers , treid EM Dance shit, Whiteny Houston / Celine Dion ballds and his career went into the toilet. He sang songs by Max Martin and the result was another flop. This guy would do anything to keep his no talent in the spotlight. He failed thru and thur. Qith QAL he is pretending to be a rocker and is failing as well. People see him as the guy that makes em see Maylor again regardless how shitty his crap singing . He is a complete tosser, a loser and his career is fucking over. Too bad he dstroyrd the best band in the world and makes Maylor look like two elderly guys who are out of their minds selling this shitshow to the world |
rockchic65 03.07.2018 21:57 |
Sealion wrote: I don‘t know much about Lambert and his label(s). And I‘m not an insider of the music business. But from my knowledge, a label can‘t drop a client AND permit them to go to another label. If the client was a really struggling artist (and most musicians, who get dropped, are exactly that), they would permit him to earn money by recording music. That would be against the law. They can only do that as a penalty, when the musician leaves, before a contract is fulfilled or when he leaves early and they don‘t find another solution. |
runner_70 03.07.2018 22:00 |
Every record label is happy for not having this tool inder contract |
rockchic65 03.07.2018 22:14 |
runner_70 wrote: How embarrassing can Glamtarts get to defend this loser? He has been dropped and can do what ever he wants - what a POS comment to say he cannot release anything withon a year . Bullcrap or you have his contract? And the comment "he did not compromise"??????? This wanker is a compromise in itself. He tried covers , treid EM Dance shit, Whiteny Houston / Celine Dion ballds and his career went into the toilet. He sang songs by Max Martin and the result was another flop. This guy would do anything to keep his no talent in the spotlight. He failed thru and thur. Qith QAL he is pretending to be a rocker and is failing as well. People see him as the guy that makes em see Maylor again regardless how shitty his crap singing . He is a complete tosser, a loser and his career is fucking over. Too bad he dstroyrd the best band in the world and makes Maylor look like two elderly guys who are out of their minds selling this shitshow to the worldHe has never released covers and nor has he done Whitney or Celine, no idea where you get that idea from, think you're mixing him up with Martel. He isn't a failure, far from it, and yes they can stop you moving labels and releasing music for x amount of time. Not saying that is the case just a possibility. Time will tell once he ends the tour with Queen and starts back on album four. Go check out some other artists and their problems with labels, there's a ton of them out there, Prince for one. As to the QAL collab, I see you got fed up arguing with everyone on facebook who saw the last two shows and loved them!! Weren't really garnering much support for your comments were you? Think the review and comments pretty much negate your take on Maylor and Lambert don't you. |
Iron Butterfly 03.07.2018 22:20 |
Sealion wrote: I don‘t know much about Lambert and his label(s). And I‘m not an insider of the music business. But from my knowledge, a label can‘t drop a client AND permit them to go to another label. If the client was a really struggling artist (and most musicians, who get dropped, are exactly that), they would permit him to earn money by recording music. That would be against the law. They can only do that as a penalty, when the musician leaves, before a contract is fulfilled or when he leaves early and they don‘t find another solution.What concerns me now, since his leaving WB that it could put his own music even further back. He did change his mind what the sound we be like. |
rockchic65 03.07.2018 22:32 |
Iron Butterfly wrote:My initial thought was he presented them with music they didn't agree with and they told him to go and do something different, and maybe they did and still weren't happy or he refused? Either way from what he's said I get the impression he knows things he just can't talk about so fingers crossed it's just a timing thing. It sounded like he would be putting something out by the end of the year, my guess would be just a single, and then the album next year. The way the industry has gone it could work better to put your own music out rather than have a label, maybe he'll do that.Sealion wrote: I don‘t know much about Lambert and his label(s). And I‘m not an insider of the music business. But from my knowledge, a label can‘t drop a client AND permit them to go to another label. If the client was a really struggling artist (and most musicians, who get dropped, are exactly that), they would permit him to earn money by recording music. That would be against the law. They can only do that as a penalty, when the musician leaves, before a contract is fulfilled or when he leaves early and they don‘t find another solution.What concerns me now, since his leaving WB that it could put his own music even further back. He did change his mind what the sound we be like. |
rockchic65 03.07.2018 22:39 |
Sealion wrote: I don‘t know much about Lambert and his label(s). And I‘m not an insider of the music business. But from my knowledge, a label can‘t drop a client AND permit them to go to another label. If the client was a really struggling artist (and most musicians, who get dropped, are exactly that), they would permit him to earn money by recording music. That would be against the law. They can only do that as a penalty, when the musician leaves, before a contract is fulfilled or when he leaves early and they don‘t find another solution.Don't know if it's the case with Adam but labels along with other kinds of businesses can get you to sign a non compete clause whereby you can't find work in direct competition with the job you're leaving or have been sacked from for x amount of time. I'm sure it could probably be challenged in court but notoriously those cases can take ages to settle or even get to court so it's whether you're prepared to be tied up in a legal battle and unable to release music until it's settled. Also it's possible that with all the work with Queen he hasn't given them enough albums, they usually specify a certain number per so many years. Rita Ora had that problem with her label and they sued her and whilst it was ongoing she wasn't allowed to sign to another label. |
runner_70 04.07.2018 05:07 |
TO get back to topic -my advice is: Avoid lamebert as he is a plague like Herpes |
Star* 04.07.2018 10:37 |
Lambert has proved then that he is arrogant arguing with record labels and what HE wants releasing as a single. That is one thing you should never do is argue with the record label because word gets around that you are difficult and have your head up your bum. Mr Lambert is not a world megastar and cannot flap his hands around like Elton can. He should be thankful for any record label wanting to chance there money on him. |
rockchic65 04.07.2018 10:55 |
happystar wrote: Lambert has proved then that he is arrogant arguing with record labels and what HE wants releasing as a single. That is one thing you should never do is argue with the record label because word gets around that you are difficult and have your head up your bum. Mr Lambert is not a world megastar and cannot flap his hands around like Elton can. He should be thankful for any record label wanting to chance there money on him.What's arrogant about having an opinion on your own music. And I didn't say he argued with them I said he wanted to release a different single but they went with BTIKM and NCOE. Obvious why they did that but IMO they were the wrong choices. After choosing the singles and them not doing that well they then decided it was a covers album or nothing. He thought about if for a few days and decided he didn't want to do that so they parted ways, he never dissed them publicly or said anything bad, just that they didn't agree on the next album. I wouldn't call any of that arrogant, it's just knowing your own mind. No one's ever said he's difficult to work with and his way of negotiating is assertive but never aggressive or arrogant so I wouldn't think he'd have any problem in future. |
Vocal harmony 04.07.2018 11:36 |
happystar wrote: Lambert has proved then that he is arrogant arguing with record labels and what HE wants releasing as a single. That is one thing you should never do is argue with the record label because word gets around that you are difficult and have your head up your bum. Mr Lambert is not a world megastar and cannot flap his hands around like Elton can. He should be thankful for any record label wanting to chance there money on him.So what about Queen in 1975 insisting that Bo Rhap should be a single, and then when they got their way insisting that it should be released without an edit. They went against the record company and management, but stuck to their guns. What about Body Language, EMI thought Staying Power was a better choice. What about the band's deciding to sign to Hollywood Records in the States.vwhat about them falling out with EMI. These things happen all the time. There is no prove he has been dropped or chosen to leave. There is also no news on whether he has a new deal, has chosen to have some free time or could he be looking at a new way of releasing music. The truth is we don't know, but some people are loving the idea that he has no deal and it isn't his choice. |
Star* 04.07.2018 17:19 |
Back in the day Yes Queen did go against the grain with there record company but by then they had proven they were serious musicians and had 3 albums out by then before A.N.A.T.O was released were Adam Lambert has not made any real impact on music wise with his own solo material. He is in a rut because he dont know what direction he wants to go in because everywhere he turns he flops. Just seen pictures from the London shows and Lambert looks like a right freak in massive platform boots , long red coat and looking very confused that he dont know what the hell he is. Queen took a step to form employing him. Meatloaf fans are also going mad because an alien will be singing some of his songs on meatloafs up and coming tour. Not everyone takes kindly to been ripped off, and not everyone is stupid enough to accept it like some Queen fans do. |
Sealion 04.07.2018 17:42 |
I know a certain band, that had released „just“ 3 albums, that didn‘t set the world on fire and nevertheless wanted to release a song , that lasts 6 bloody minutes to radio against any advice. You know what happened then. Just saying. And concerning the bullshit you (happystar) are spreading about Lambert‘s solo career: I‘m no expert, but I can tell you, that even I know, that the guy is highly regarded by most people in the music industry. His records didn‘t set the world on fire, but they aren‘t bad or unsuccessful either. Maybe you should look a bit further than just at the British charts. ;-) |
Star* 04.07.2018 17:55 |
sealion: The British charts are the most important charts in the world and if you do not make here then its bye bye and Lambert is a flop here with his solo material so accept he is not as dynamic as you think he is. Secondly i did not start the rumour of him getting dumped by his record company as someone mentioned it earlier on here but i am hoping it is true because he is not a rock n roller at all. He has not even written one song to suggest he is a rock n roller, all he does is pretend he is great when he clearly is not. |
SweetCaroline 04.07.2018 18:22 |
Ha! Ha! How in the world can you PRETEND you are great? Adam is a humble guy and not a fake braggart like Trump! |
Sealion 04.07.2018 18:33 |
happystar said:“The British charts are the most important charts in the world...“ case closed. Talking to you in this thread is senseless. |
rockchic65 04.07.2018 18:37 |
Sealion wrote: I know a certain band, that had released „just“ 3 albums, that didn‘t set the world on fire and nevertheless wanted to release a song , that lasts 6 bloody minutes to radio against any advice. You know what happened then. Just saying. And concerning the bullshit you (happystar) are spreading about Lambert‘s solo career: I‘m no expert, but I can tell you, that even I know, that the guy is highly regarded by most people in the music industry. His records didn‘t set the world on fire, but they aren‘t bad or unsuccessful either. Maybe you should look a bit further than just at the British charts. ;-)Exactly, he may not have the chart hits that Ed Sheeran and Taylor Swift have but how many other artists are having similar success to Adam and still touring and doing fine, they can't all be at the top of the charts all the time. And yeah he's extremely well regarded in the industry and his personality will help him regardless of what happens with his music. |
rockchic65 04.07.2018 18:41 |
happystar wrote: sealion: The British charts are the most important charts in the world and if you do not make here then its bye bye and Lambert is a flop here with his solo material so accept he is not as dynamic as you think he is. Secondly i did not start the rumour of him getting dumped by his record company as someone mentioned it earlier on here but i am hoping it is true because he is not a rock n roller at all. He has not even written one song to suggest he is a rock n roller, all he does is pretend he is great when he clearly is not.How the hell do you work out the British charts are the most important? They might be to you but that isn't fact, and regardless whether he has chart success here he's still popular in lots of countries and that will determine where he tours which at the end of the day is the important thing to his fans and probably him since that's where the money is. Adam loves touring and aside from that he's open to diversifying in other directions, not just music. There isn't just one way to be successful, so long as he can keep making a living in the entertainment industry in some way he'll be happy. IMO that's far more important than chart success. |
runner_70 04.07.2018 18:50 |
How embarrassing can it get when the GLamtarts compare the mighty Queen catalogue with the crap music Lameass has released so far. They really compare BoRHap to an abomination like "Two Fux" ??? How delusional are they???? |
Sealion 04.07.2018 18:55 |
Nobody compared these songs but you. How embarrassing is it, that you use lies and false facts to spread your hate? Or is your English that bad, that you don‘t understand other people‘s posts? |
rockchic65 04.07.2018 19:24 |
runner_70 wrote: How embarrassing can it get when the GLamtarts compare the mighty Queen catalogue with the crap music Lameass has released so far. They really compare BoRHap to an abomination like "Two Fux" ??? How delusional are they????Can't work out if you deliberately misunderstand what's written or just choose to but re read the comments and try again. Only one lame person here. |
snifflese 04.07.2018 19:24 |
How long does it take for you to come up with all the nasty names you throw out at other posters and Adam? You, runner and Happy whatever are just pieces of work! I don't get why someone would make it his life's business to insult people on-line. What sad little lives you two must live because only totally unhappy, jealous people behave the way you two do. Keep on thinking all the crap you want while Adam has a blast singing around the world and putting money in the bank like crazy. That is a person who has good karma because he is a lovely man who nobody ever has a bad thing to say about. I can't say one good thing about either one of you and that is just terribly sad. |
runner_70 04.07.2018 20:02 |
Lamefart can have as much money as he wants - as long as he doesnt sing QUeen songs I am happy too. He should vanish for good on a desert island with a no return ticket and no microphone anywhere. |
rockchic65 04.07.2018 20:05 |
runner_70 wrote: Lamefart can have as much money as he wants - as long as he doesnt sing QUeen songs I am happy too. He should vanish for good on a desert island with a no return ticket and no microphone anywhere.So you think your happiness is far more important than the thousands who enjoy seeing him? Bit narcissistic wouldn't you say? |
runner_70 04.07.2018 21:39 |
Call it "taste" - plain and simple. QAL are an abomination |
rockchic65 04.07.2018 21:40 |
runner_70 wrote: Call it "taste" - plain and simple. QAL are an abominationNo they're amazing and having fun, you should try that sometime. |
runner_70 05.07.2018 04:21 |
WHat makes this sad nostalgia coverband amazing? The best thing is the opening - once Lamebird is entering the scene with his butcher's clothes (very fitting!) it is over |
Star* 05.07.2018 06:32 |
You three girls will stick up for the pathetic Lambert no matter what i get that but you have to admit he is making Queen into a dogs dinner. Just like at his outfits from the recent London shows, he does look like a freak, massive high heel boots, long red coat tarted up in make up and you say he does not look like a freak, he is pushing his homosexuality in to all our faces and its getting on the perverted side now, you cannot deny that May & Taylor have clearly lost the plot letting Adam come on stage looking like a lady boy its laughable, oh my god he looks like a cross between Marilyn Manson & Boy George x a perverted Gary Glitter. Very embarrassing for you guys.. |
rockchic65 05.07.2018 07:12 |
happystar wrote: You three girls will stick up for the pathetic Lambert no matter what i get that but you have to admit he is making Queen into a dogs dinner. Just like at his outfits from the recent London shows, he does look like a freak, massive high heel boots, long red coat tarted up in make up and you say he does not look like a freak, he is pushing his homosexuality in to all our faces and its getting on the perverted side now, you cannot deny that May & Taylor have clearly lost the plot letting Adam come on stage looking like a lady boy its laughable, oh my god he looks like a cross between Marilyn Manson & Boy George x a perverted Gary Glitter. Very embarrassing for you guys..I really don't get why you think it's a problem, the audience don't, they either love all the clothes and make up or just accept it's Adam but it doesn't put them off, most people just find it funny. He's a very endearing person and it comes across live probably different than just seeing video clips but most people don't care about all that stuff, there's far more to him than what he wears or a bit of guyliner. There's always been performers who wear crazy clothes and make up and they weren't all gay either. You can't seriously think that after some of the clothes Freddie wore - the red sparkly playsuit in Tokyo, the white shorts with no shoes and top, ballet slippers and leotards etc. As to Roger & Brian, I'm sure if they were getting negative feedback based on Adam's look they'd do something about it but that's not the case. One of the things he loves about doing this with Queen is he's fully accepted by them and the audience as himself, no one expects him to change or tone himself down. |
Star* 05.07.2018 16:12 |
Rockchic: I think he needs to tone it down it is getting on the ridiculous now and to let Queen be associated with the likes of that is very embarrassing for us all. Lambert seems to push the button of tasteless dress sense to a whole new level. Freddie always said he dressed to kill but tastefully. Lambert dresses to shock and to scream at the world that he is a blatant homosexual but by doing that he is dragging all gay men into his perverted way he dresses. i do not buy into that at all. Runner70 is correct he has a trashy dress sense and it shows. Those high heel boots he wears are 45 years out of fashion and proves he is unoriginal and copies past generations what Bowie, Gary Glitter, were doing in 1971. He does look like the sweet transvestite out of the Rocky horror show. |
Playthegame2 05.07.2018 17:45 |
I believe the reason Runner_70 does not post on QOL is because he was permanently banned from there a few years ago. His username was Exodus70. His hate spewing posts were too much for the moderators there even though they don't like this collaboration. Most people who dislike something have their say then move on with their life. It's kind of sad that someone can get so obsessed that they can't just let go. What a sorry waste of a life. |
rockchic65 05.07.2018 19:01 |
happystar wrote: Rockchic: I think he needs to tone it down it is getting on the ridiculous now and to let Queen be associated with the likes of that is very embarrassing for us all. Lambert seems to push the button of tasteless dress sense to a whole new level. Freddie always said he dressed to kill but tastefully. Lambert dresses to shock and to scream at the world that he is a blatant homosexual but by doing that he is dragging all gay men into his perverted way he dresses. i do not buy into that at all. Runner70 is correct he has a trashy dress sense and it shows. Those high heel boots he wears are 45 years out of fashion and proves he is unoriginal and copies past generations what Bowie, Gary Glitter, were doing in 1971. He does look like the sweet transvestite out of the Rocky horror show.The clothes Adam wears are current designer brands so people are obviously wearing them. Outside of the entertainment industry maybe gay guys don't dress like that but Adam's from Hollywood, they wear all sorts of stuff there, his friends dress more weird than he does. It's for a stage show anyway, and people at the shows get it, they find it funny and the camp thing makes them laugh as well. Maybe you have to be there to see it but it comes across very different than on the vids. At the show I was at it started a little late and people around me were saying things like "probably Adam doing his eyliner or can't decide what to wear, but in an affectionate way. That's the way people take what he does, as a bit of fun, they take to him, no one thinks it's embarrassing. |
Star* 05.07.2018 19:36 |
i bet were you are in America there are very anti gay groups and Lambert makes this worse with his over the top freaky dress code. Americans do not like mincy boys and Lambert has to be one of the worst going right? I have never seen any men wear massive high heeled boots like that in Hollywood so please stop making things up to defend him. i am glad i have never been to a Queen show since 1986 because its not Queen and Lambert has made Queen lose there identity now to be replaced by cheap tacky performances and venues which are only half full, shows how people have had enough of this freak show. |
rockchic65 05.07.2018 20:01 |
happystar wrote: i bet were you are in America there are very anti gay groups and Lambert makes this worse with his over the top freaky dress code. Americans do not like mincy boys and Lambert has to be one of the worst going right? I have never seen any men wear massive high heeled boots like that in Hollywood so please stop making things up to defend him. i am glad i have never been to a Queen show since 1986 because its not Queen and Lambert has made Queen lose there identity now to be replaced by cheap tacky performances and venues which are only half full, shows how people have had enough of this freak show.They do wear stuff like that in hollywood, maybe not walking down the street during the day although it wouldn't surprise me but male models, gay guys going to underground clubs etc wear all sorts of weird stuff. Most of the way out stuff Adam wears like those boots are just for the stage. Don't know where you got the idea I'm in America, I'm in the UK. |
snifflese 06.07.2018 01:08 |
You said something about half full audiences, runner? Seems to me the majority of their shows are sold out or just about. Where do you get your misinformation from? Queen is selling out and people are loving it! Adam's clothes are for the stage and they tie in with each chapter of the show. That is how I think about the grouping of the songs. He does wear designer clothes and they are perfect for a concert. Even Brian is coordinating with him, which I absolutely love. You obviously know little about Adam because when he is home and they catch pics of him out and about, he looks like a reguar kind of sloppy dude. But, when he is on camera, he always looks spectacular. If you don't know the difference between clothes for a concert and real life, you are more of an idiot than I thought. By the way, Freddie's ballet shoes, leotards,tightey whitey and gold jackets and capes made quite the fashion statements themselves. You are a joke, Dude!! |
runner_70 06.07.2018 04:36 |
Talking to me snifflese? I did not mention half full audiences even tough they have a hard time filling the venues in Germany where they almost gave away half of the tickets for Cologne for free. I dont see ticket sales as proof for Quality. QAL is a sad nosatalgia act with a goat on vocasl who cannot sing to save his life, has to musical talent and looks like a lost twat on a stage. End of discussion. |
snifflese 06.07.2018 04:47 |
I guess it was your buddy Happystar but to me you are pretty much interchangeable, although you are cruder. Well, I think Germany may be an outlier. Apparently the 3 London shows sold out and were rave review shows! The live streams were amazing and I do wish I had been there. They sounded as if they were rocking on all cylinders and the band looked like they were thoroughly loving all the love coming from the audience. Must make them feel justified in doing what they do! Too bad you can't find anything you love that makes you happy. Maybe you wouldn't be so critical and ill tempered. |