QueenZone discussion #1508839

rockchic65 wrote: It's a continuation of the tour so I doubt much will change, although the Glasgow & Marlay Park one's are festivals so maybe a chance, but I doubt it tbh.

Vocal harmony wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: It's a continuation of the tour so I doubt much will change, although the Glasgow & Marlay Park one's are festivals so maybe a chance, but I doubt it tbh.

Indeed so probably a slightly shortened Setlist.

happystar wrote: Is this crap still going on then? If Freddie never performed certain songs then why on earth do you want AL to ruin them for then?

happystar wrote: Is this crap still going on then? If Freddie never performed certain songs then why on earth do you want AL to ruin them for then?

SweetCaroline wrote: It seems that most people are accepting Marc Martel’s voice subbing for Freddie’s voice on the biopic movie track! So it is only Lambert who is not acceptable after over 250 live shows? I think JSS has sung those songs in live performances as well as Celine and others.

SweetCaroline wrote: Celine: link

happystar wrote: VH : No Brian was not doing wrong for performing the songs he felt confident in singing and anyway he was a Queen member, on the other hand Adam Lambert should steer away from gem tracks Freddie never got to sing live, after all in my opinion if Freddie never got to sing them why should Lambert?

Sealion wrote: I would be happy to hear more songs from these last three albums played by QAL. My dream would be Innuendo. Only problem is, that Brian seems to fear that song ever since the debacle at the tribute concert.:-( Just because two of the loudest posters on this forum don’t want Brian and Roger to play these songs with Adam, that doesn’t mean, the majority of of the fans feel the same. Music is created to be played and heard. And if the original musician is gone, that doesn’t mean, others can‘t do it. In this case, two of the original musicians are still active. If they want to play their own songs with Adam, they will do it. They won‘t ask anyone, thankfully.

SweetCaroline wrote: I think Adam was born to sing I Was Born To Love You!

Sealion wrote: Yes, Freddie worked hard on these albums. So did the rest of the band (fortunately they were not fatally ill, but working with your dying friend isn’t easy either). Because they worked so hard, these songs should be spread and heard by many. I agree with you, that there are some songs, that shouldn’t be touched (Mother Love for instance). But TSMGO is played by so many other artists (and often not really good), that the audiences love it. It’s a highlight at every show, when they play it.

snifflese wrote: If Chris Daughtry could sing Innuendo on American Idol backed by Queen, I don't think there are any restrictions on what Adam can sing when he tours for the 6th year with Queen. Whatever Queen feels fit to sing, is what they can perform. I don't understand why it is OK for others to sing some of the "not sung by Freddie songs" , but Adam can't. Your animus is surely showing. Also Icy, no one wants Adam to sing these so he can be praised by his fans. What a stupid idea! I doubt the average concert goer would have a clue as to whether or not Freddie sang a certain song live. Only some of you die hard Adam haters could ever come up with such an odd complaint, but that doesn't surprise me a bit. It would just be fun to hear a different song for a change. One of my fav Adam songs is IWBTLY and it makes no difference to me if Freddie sang it live or not.

rockchic65 wrote: IMO so many people cover Queen songs, a lot badly, in local pubs/clubs, tribute shows etc, no song should be off limits for the guys who had a hand in creating them, regardless who they have singing with them. I could have lived without Robert Plant doing innuendo, but only because it was a train wreck, not because I think he shouldn't be allowed to do it. By now I'd say Adam's earned the right to sing whatever he wants, but I still don't expect any changes tbh.

Sealion wrote: TSMGO was most often performed by Q+Paul Rodgers. It was a regular song in their setlist and they did it 105 times. Q+AL played it only 45 times. I for once prefer the version with Adam. All of that indicates, that Brian and Roger like to play this one. Hopefully it will be back on the setlist, since it was barely ever performed by Q+AL in Europe.

snifflese wrote: I know IWBTLY is not an Adam song (jeez lousie!). It is a Queen song sung by Adam but not Freddie. I thought you would understand that! I think any song is now fair game and I love them all no matter who did or didn't sing them first. I don't think Brian and Roger really care either!!

SweetCaroline wrote: People have complained when TSMGO isn’t in the QAL set list so I don’t know what the big deal is about that song. If anything it is a tribute to Freddie that in his absence, the show must still go on!

SweetCaroline wrote: Freddie wanted the show to go on! And it is!

happystar wrote: Adam Lambert is just like a little Barbie doll with all the designer handbags and accessories and that is what exactly he has here with the Queen back catalogue, ready made songs to make believe he is an amazing front man, when in essence he is not. He never wrote one note on any of the Queen back catalogue but the way he goes on you would think he did and to me that is the sign of a very arrogant ass hole.

happystar wrote: Not arrogant eh but he just wont leave Queen will he because he knows he is making money out of a dead mans brilliance and genius. He has no decision in wanting Freddies pictures on stage that is up to Brian & Roger not Adams choice. To me Lambert is still guilt ridden telling the audiences he respects Freddie and he aint trying to be like him etc...... but really he is, just look at the crown he wears, which was invented by Freddie........

happystar wrote: . . . . . . He never wrote one note on any of the Queen back catalogue but the way he goes on you would think he did and to me that is the sign of a very arrogant ass hole.

SweetCaroline wrote: This thread is for the upcoming tour but already the whiners are hijacking it.

kosimodo wrote: Tsmgo is not something adam can pull off.. celine did and does.. must be pain and age... adam should stick to the likes of wwtlf.. which he sings stunningly. The kid can sing: use that.

rockchic65 wrote:

happystar wrote: Adam Lambert is just like a little Barbie doll with all the designer handbags and accessories and that is what exactly he has here with the Queen back catalogue, ready made songs to make believe he is an amazing front man, when in essence he is not. He never wrote one note on any of the Queen back catalogue but the way he goes on you would think he did and to me that is the sign of a very arrogant ass hole.

You do talk some rubbish at times, listen to this, he specifically says "I didn't write any of the songs, I didn't record any" - where is that being arrogant or an asshole. link Adam is the least arrogant, entitled person out there, he never fails to give Freddie and the band credit, he wanted the footage of Freddie in the show he thought it important for the audience, he calls himself a guest still even though it's been six years since they started working together and if you ever saw them onstage, even though he's essentially the frontman he includes Brian & Roger a lot and acknowledges Spike & Neil in parts, he likes to share the stage, not just keep the focus on him, even in his own shows he was like that with his backing band. You can like him being with them or not, your choice, but you're completely wrong about the way he treats this collaboration.

rockchic65 wrote:

happystar wrote: Not arrogant eh but he just wont leave Queen will he because he knows he is making money out of a dead mans brilliance and genius. He has no decision in wanting Freddies pictures on stage that is up to Brian & Roger not Adams choice. To me Lambert is still guilt ridden telling the audiences he respects Freddie and he aint trying to be like him etc...... but really he is, just look at the crown he wears, which was invented by Freddie........

You clearly don't get him because you don't want to accept him, there's no arrogance involved in him staying with Queen, why would he leave when the fans are constantly asking them to do more shows. To him it's symbiotic, all parties are benefitting and all parties are having a blast - his words. He's also said that Brian & Roger still want to be out there touring, they've said so numerous times as well, and obviously he enables them to do that. They're like family now, they love playing together, they get on offstage as well as on and anyone who knows anything about him would know he likes to work and hang out with same bunch of people as much as possible. He likes working with the same photographers for photo shoots etc, he just likes the feeling of being comfortable with people he's got to know well. What possible reason amongst all that would he want to leave for? As to the crown (coronet), it was Brian's idea, kind of calling him the Prince to Freddie's King, to denote Freddie was the original and he's the successor. He does it jokingly, as he does most things, it's just his way, it's not meant to be taken seriously and the audience get it.

SweetCaroline wrote: This thread is for the upcoming tour but already the whiners are hijacking it.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

happystar wrote: Not arrogant eh but he just wont leave Queen will he because he knows he is making money out of a dead mans brilliance and genius. He has no decision in wanting Freddies pictures on stage that is up to Brian & Roger not Adams choice. To me Lambert is still guilt ridden telling the audiences he respects Freddie and he aint trying to be like him etc...... but really he is, just look at the crown he wears, which was invented by Freddie........

You clearly don't get him because you don't want to accept him, there's no arrogance involved in him staying with Queen, why would he leave when the fans are constantly asking them to do more shows. To him it's symbiotic, all parties are benefitting and all parties are having a blast - his words. He's also said that Brian & Roger still want to be out there touring, they've said so numerous times as well, and obviously he enables them to do that. They're like family now, they love playing together, they get on offstage as well as on and anyone who knows anything about him would know he likes to work and hang out with same bunch of people as much as possible. He likes working with the same photographers for photo shoots etc, he just likes the feeling of being comfortable with people he's got to know well. What possible reason amongst all that would he want to leave for? As to the crown (coronet), it was Brian's idea, kind of calling him the Prince to Freddie's King, to denote Freddie was the original and he's the successor. He does it jokingly, as he does most things, it's just his way, it's not meant to be taken seriously and the audience get it.

The Coronet was Brian's idea? And he kind of did it to call AL the prince to Freddie's king, and Freddie was the original and AL is the successor? Where has Brian said that? I don't recall reading or hearing him state that.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

happystar wrote: Adam Lambert is just like a little Barbie doll with all the designer handbags and accessories and that is what exactly he has here with the Queen back catalogue, ready made songs to make believe he is an amazing front man, when in essence he is not. He never wrote one note on any of the Queen back catalogue but the way he goes on you would think he did and to me that is the sign of a very arrogant ass hole.

You do talk some rubbish at times, listen to this, he specifically says "I didn't write any of the songs, I didn't record any" - where is that being arrogant or an asshole. link Adam is the least arrogant, entitled person out there, he never fails to give Freddie and the band credit, he wanted the footage of Freddie in the show he thought it important for the audience, he calls himself a guest still even though it's been six years since they started working together and if you ever saw them onstage, even though he's essentially the frontman he includes Brian & Roger a lot and acknowledges Spike & Neil in parts, he likes to share the stage, not just keep the focus on him, even in his own shows he was like that with his backing band. You can like him being with them or not, your choice, but you're completely wrong about the way he treats this collaboration.

You say that AL wanted video footage of Freddie, I don't think I've heard about that before. Considering that there is less of Freddie being seen and heard in recent times, was that also AL's idea? Infeel very strongly Freddie should be seen and heard more during the shows, too bad there has been so little of it as time went on. IMO , a collaboration in this case would be if Q+AL worked together in the studio. So far they havent done that. AL is on stage singing the songs...yes as a guest although I feel even the Freddie speech will be dropped this tour.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

happystar wrote: Adam Lambert is just like a little Barbie doll with all the designer handbags and accessories and that is what exactly he has here with the Queen back catalogue, ready made songs to make believe he is an amazing front man, when in essence he is not. He never wrote one note on any of the Queen back catalogue but the way he goes on you would think he did and to me that is the sign of a very arrogant ass hole.

You do talk some rubbish at times, listen to this, he specifically says "I didn't write any of the songs, I didn't record any" - where is that being arrogant or an asshole. link Adam is the least arrogant, entitled person out there, he never fails to give Freddie and the band credit, he wanted the footage of Freddie in the show he thought it important for the audience, he calls himself a guest still even though it's been six years since they started working together and if you ever saw them onstage, even though he's essentially the frontman he includes Brian & Roger a lot and acknowledges Spike & Neil in parts, he likes to share the stage, not just keep the focus on him, even in his own shows he was like that with his backing band. You can like him being with them or not, your choice, but you're completely wrong about the way he treats this collaboration.

You say that AL wanted video footage of Freddie, I don't think I've heard about that before. Considering that there is less of Freddie being seen and heard in recent times, was that also AL's idea? Infeel very strongly Freddie should be seen and heard more during the shows, too bad there has been so little of it as time went on. IMO , a collaboration in this case would be if Q+AL worked together in the studio. So far they havent done that. AL is on stage singing the songs...yes as a guest although I feel even the Freddie speech will be dropped this tour.

It was in a Q+AL interview where it was said Adam wanted Freddie included in the show, he felt it was important to show they were celebrating Freddie and Queen's music. He's still included, just in different ways, they added the Ayo's and dropped the end bit in Bo Rhap. Aside from a couple of people on here no one mentioned them changing Bo Rhap, but then a lot of people only see one show so they wouldn't know it was any different anyway. I don't know if they'll keep the speech or not, I've no reason to think they'll drop it since some version of it has been in the show since the beginning. For me if I want to watch Freddie I can do that at home so I don't personally think they need to put any more in the show, they do enough to show respect, especially the bit with Brian on Love of My Life.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

happystar wrote: Not arrogant eh but he just wont leave Queen will he because he knows he is making money out of a dead mans brilliance and genius. He has no decision in wanting Freddies pictures on stage that is up to Brian & Roger not Adams choice. To me Lambert is still guilt ridden telling the audiences he respects Freddie and he aint trying to be like him etc...... but really he is, just look at the crown he wears, which was invented by Freddie........

You clearly don't get him because you don't want to accept him, there's no arrogance involved in him staying with Queen, why would he leave when the fans are constantly asking them to do more shows. To him it's symbiotic, all parties are benefitting and all parties are having a blast - his words. He's also said that Brian & Roger still want to be out there touring, they've said so numerous times as well, and obviously he enables them to do that. They're like family now, they love playing together, they get on offstage as well as on and anyone who knows anything about him would know he likes to work and hang out with same bunch of people as much as possible. He likes working with the same photographers for photo shoots etc, he just likes the feeling of being comfortable with people he's got to know well. What possible reason amongst all that would he want to leave for? As to the crown (coronet), it was Brian's idea, kind of calling him the Prince to Freddie's King, to denote Freddie was the original and he's the successor. He does it jokingly, as he does most things, it's just his way, it's not meant to be taken seriously and the audience get it.

The Coronet was Brian's idea? And he kind of did it to call AL the prince to Freddie's king, and Freddie was the original and AL is the successor? Where has Brian said that? I don't recall reading or hearing him state that.

It was at one of the early shows they did and it was discussed somehwere, I can't just remember where now.

Iron Butterfly wrote: I'm torn. Half of me can't believe Brian would come up with something like that, another half me believes he could...most of know he loves Adam. Even so, the Coronet is tacky, even more so if Brian looked at it as a prince to Freddie's king. Oh hell no. I'd rather the coronet be as some gimmick or antic even. I've watched and read so many videos, interviews, articles, it's hard to keep track. I don't recall Brian stating that, I hope he isn't as thoughtless as that.

SweetCaroline wrote: Icy Iron Butterfly you really must get yourself to Vegas in September because all of your criticisms of this collaboration have no credibility until you stop basing them on amateur videos taken from the audience. You think your “POV” is the be all and end all and it isn’t. And, yes, I know all about the history of TSMGO and Adam sings it a hell of a lot better than Elton at the Freddie Tribute or Paul Rodgers or anyone else other than Freddie!

SweetCaroline wrote: Icy Iron Butterfly you really must get yourself to Vegas in September because all of your criticisms of this collaboration have no credibility until you stop basing them on amateur videos taken from the audience. You think your “POV” is the be all and end all and it isn’t. And, yes, I know all about the history of TSMGO and Adam sings it a hell of a lot better than Elton at the Freddie Tribute or Paul Rodgers or anyone else other than Freddie!

SweetCaroline wrote: TSMGO, Kiev, June 30, 2012: link

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: I'm torn. Half of me can't believe Brian would come up with something like that, another half me believes he could...most of know he loves Adam. Even so, the Coronet is tacky, even more so if Brian looked at it as a prince to Freddie's king. Oh hell no. I'd rather the coronet be as some gimmick or antic even. I've watched and read so many videos, interviews, articles, it's hard to keep track. I don't recall Brian stating that, I hope he isn't as thoughtless as that.

I've seen a lot of inteviews as well, don't always remember where I see/hear stuff. It's been said a few times on YouTube/Facebook, at least the bit about Brian putting it on him, not sure where I heard the other bit, unless it was someone's interpretation of it. Either way, it's done in fun, Adam loves playing dress up as he puts it and no one ever takes any of that stuff seriously, it's just him being able to indulge his love for theatrics and he sees Queen as a theatrical band so he considers it gives him permission to be over the top and ridiculous, he laughs at himself when he says it, he's even said "I'm kind of ridiculous, I know that".

SweetCaroline wrote: I’m done posting until June 7.

Iron Butterfly wrote: Well, I would hope AL wanted Freddie to be and heard. I'm right with AL there. But to take out the ending of Bohemian Rhapsody, and to have AL sing much of it as possible, I don't think that is the right choice. Bohemian Rhapsody isn't only a classic song for Queen it's a groundbreaking rock song. It does come across as tacky ALmis the one to sing it as much as possible...what would it hurt to keep Freddie's vocals? A big hole is left without having as much of Freddie and John in these shows. They had so much to do with Queen history after all. Or put it this way, AL wouldn't be where he is without Queen. It would not hurt anyone to show more of Freddie and John during these shows. It's like AL is wanted to be fit anywhere possible. Who had the idea for that?

SweetCaroline wrote: Yes, but it is wrong for you or anyone to say that song should never be played or performed because it was written for Freddie when he was so ill. As I said before, it is a tribute to him that the show and the powerful Queen music must go on! Some day when the remaining guys are no longer able to perform, the critics will be weeping and gnashing their teeth with regret especially the idiots who refuse to go because there is no Freddie!

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: Well, I would hope AL wanted Freddie to be and heard. I'm right with AL there. But to take out the ending of Bohemian Rhapsody, and to have AL sing much of it as possible, I don't think that is the right choice. Bohemian Rhapsody isn't only a classic song for Queen it's a groundbreaking rock song. It does come across as tacky ALmis the one to sing it as much as possible...what would it hurt to keep Freddie's vocals? A big hole is left without having as much of Freddie and John in these shows. They had so much to do with Queen history after all. Or put it this way, AL wouldn't be where he is without Queen. It would not hurt anyone to show more of Freddie and John during these shows. It's like AL is wanted to be fit anywhere possible. Who had the idea for that?

I don't know who's idea the Bo Rhap thing was, I've never seen any interviews where it was mentioned, it just disappeared after the three lyric flubs last year. Maybe he just thought he'd be less likely to mess up if he sang the whole thing, but that's just me wondering, he's never mentioned it to my knowledge. I personally found the balance with Freddie in the show just right at the show I went to.

snifflese wrote: It is such a shame that being a true Queen fan keeps you from enjoying what Queen is now, QAL. I am glad I don't know nearly enough to ruin QAL's shows for me. I think these are just excuses since you don't like Adam. You seem to be on board with Paul Rogers and you generally like anyone else who sings a Queen song, just not Adam. I have noticed that over the last 9 years, It is a definite pattern. People at the concert don't need holograms of Freddie. Everyone reveres him and knows who wrote a good deal of the music. Too much of Freddie would take away from that one moment where he appears on the screen. Too much would be overkill. As far as John, he made the decision not to take part and is still raking in the money. He doesn't need to be showcased for his non-participation. Apparently Brian and Roger agree. Capes and crowns ar symbols of Queen and QAL is just a different incarnation of the original. Adam would never incorporate it into his show as it means nothing in respect to his music. It is a symbol of Queen, however, and there are tons of folks who now consider Adam the new frontman of Queen. Just because you don't Icy, doesn't mean that lots of people think otherwise. Many in the mediahave published that very statement and I have found few commentsfrom fans that dispute it. Your POV is not the only one in the world! I have read the same story about the coronet that Rockchic has. If Brian feels comfortable passing the coronet on, that is all that needs to be said. We all now how you feel, as it has been mentioned many, many times. Maybe you could avoid mentioning it again! We are all aware of your POV!!! The bottom line is that if Adam loves singing Queen and they are all comfortable with it, why is it the easy way out? Fronting the band and singing a difficult catalog for long tours is something that very few singers in the world could do to the level that Adam does. If Brian and Roger are happy and Adam is happy and the majjority of the fans are happy, that is all there is to this story. A few naysayers online don't change reality and the reality is that QAL has been very successful and the vast majority of folks are quite happy when they see the show. Whether Adam's career later on ever reaches these heights is a totally different issue and nothing for Adam to worry about now as he is really enjoying his life it seems. We should all be so happy!!

SweetCaroline wrote: I’m happy! And I’m really happy because my Cavaliers won the NBA Eastern Division Championdhip for the 4th time in a row last night!

SweetCaroline wrote: I’m done posting until June 7.

happystar wrote: Well i will honestly say i do not like Adam Lambert. He is not a star in my eyes and never will be. He is just a leach getting paid to sing Queen songs in his plain west end style of singing, hardly a rock n roller is he!

happystar wrote: Dont do Youtube but there is a lot of people on facebook slagging Lambert especially european Queen fans !

Sealion wrote: Look at the likes and dislikes on both the official Queen FB and YT and you get the real picture. There are very loud haters, but they are only a few compared to the rest.

SweetCaroline wrote: Freddie and Adam sound similar on WWTLF: link

Iron Butterfly wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Freddie and Adam sound similar on WWTLF: link

No, they dont sound similar. Thought you said you were not going to compare them. Freddie's voice is more natural singing there, and AL seems he is trying way too hard.

SweetCaroline wrote: Here’s another one — Freddie/Paul/Adam: link

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Iron Butterfly wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Freddie and Adam sound similar on WWTLF: link

No, they dont sound similar. Thought you said you were not going to compare them. Freddie's voice is more natural singing there, and AL seems he is trying way too hard.

Really could live without all these pointless comparison vids, they're just done for clicks and create nothing but endless arguments on YouTube. To me the only reason there is even a remote similarity in the WWTLF vid is that Adam sings it similar to the recording and in the same key but their voices don't sound similar, not to me anyway. As to Adam trying too hard, to me he's just a theatrical, dramatic singer, that's how he approaches most songs. Whether it's his music theater background or just him I don't know, but it's one of the things I like and live it certainly makes it more intense and not boring to watch.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

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Iron Butterfly wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Freddie and Adam sound similar on WWTLF: link

No, they dont sound similar. Thought you said you were not going to compare them. Freddie's voice is more natural singing there, and AL seems he is trying way too hard.

Really could live without all these pointless comparison vids, they're just done for clicks and create nothing but endless arguments on YouTube. To me the only reason there is even a remote similarity in the WWTLF vid is that Adam sings it similar to the recording and in the same key but their voices don't sound similar, not to me anyway. As to Adam trying too hard, to me he's just a theatrical, dramatic singer, that's how he approaches most songs. Whether it's his music theater background or just him I don't know, but it's one of the things I like and live it certainly makes it more intense and not boring to watch.

I actually agree with you. It's pointless. It's just that I was said someone never compared them and never will, so much for that I guess. Another thing I agree with you, is that they don't sound similar. I would have loved to have see AL evolve without Q+AL. Too see what he could come up without the Queen influence would be very interesting. Please no more TwoFux type of music. ;-). I appreciate the great it took to release something like that, but IMO TwoFux wasn't his best.

happystar wrote: 98% of Glamsters are girls now does that tell you something? It says that many are not bother about the music they just fancy Lambert but just like Barry Manilow who cheated his female audiences for years then admitted he was gay and broke there hearts, Lambert fans are that dense even though they know he is homosexual and still lust after him. typical eh !

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SweetCaroline wrote: Freddie and Adam sound similar on WWTLF: link

No, they dont sound similar. Thought you said you were not going to compare them. Freddie's voice is more natural singing there, and AL seems he is trying way too hard.

Really could live without all these pointless comparison vids, they're just done for clicks and create nothing but endless arguments on YouTube. To me the only reason there is even a remote similarity in the WWTLF vid is that Adam sings it similar to the recording and in the same key but their voices don't sound similar, not to me anyway. As to Adam trying too hard, to me he's just a theatrical, dramatic singer, that's how he approaches most songs. Whether it's his music theater background or just him I don't know, but it's one of the things I like and live it certainly makes it more intense and not boring to watch.

I actually agree with you. It's pointless. It's just that I was said someone never compared them and never will, so much for that I guess. Another thing I agree with you, is that they don't sound similar. I would have loved to have see AL evolve without Q+AL. Too see what he could come up without the Queen influence would be very interesting. Please no more TwoFux type of music. ;-). I appreciate the great it took to release something like that, but IMO TwoFux wasn't his best.

I hated TwoFux, he's been working with the two writers who came up with that so I really hope his new music isn't along the same lines. I suspect next year will be devoted to his own music, will be interesting to see what direction it goes in.

Iron Butterfly wrote: Rockchic, we agree again. I hated TwoFux as well. I will never know why Brian and Roger decided to add that to the set list. It didn't improve it whatsover, IMO. Dang, I didn't realize he was working with two of the same writers. I'm unsure what to think about his new music, I am interested in it, I just wish he would not change his direction he was going in. Bluesy out, and I have no idea what his main focus is. A recent article or interview said everything from 80s sound to funk and something else ( can't recall right now). Simply put, maybe too many fingers in the pie.

SweetCaroline wrote: Here’s the right link for Freddie/Paul/Adam: link

SweetCaroline wrote: I never saw this before either — excellent description of Freddie and Adam: link

SweetCaroline wrote: Darn, keeps giving me the wrong link: link

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happystar wrote: 98% of Glamsters are girls now does that tell you something? It says that many are not bother about the music they just fancy Lambert but just like Barry Manilow who cheated his female audiences for years then admitted he was gay and broke there hearts, Lambert fans are that dense even though they know he is homosexual and still lust after him. typical eh !

Adam's been out since day one so no cheating going on and do you really think that's all they're interested in? Some of his female fans might fancy him but it's still his voice and personality they are really interested in. And your figures are skewed, you said you're on facebook so you can't have failed to notice all the guys posting about him on there as well. Also if all his female fans just fancy him why did they go nuts screaming etc every time he kissed his bass player on tour? The majority really don't care that he's gay, there's far more to him than his sexuality, it goes way deeper than that.

SweetCaroline wrote: Shut up icy. I’ve never seen any of those videos let alone posted them. Not saying anyone is better. Just think it is interesting to see them side by side. Mind your own business instead of mine.

happystar wrote: Same sad little girls sticking up for pussy boy, get a life and support a real singer girls, there is plenty about, especially from 70s and 80s.

happystar wrote: Why would anyone want to support Adam Lambert when Freddie Mercury was king of rock?

happystar wrote: Glamberts cant see he has no talent, he cant write music, he cant play piano or any instrument for that matter, he is just a wannabee pop lovey. He is like a little girl playing around with make up and outfits but hes singing voice is mediocre plain.

happystar wrote: Why would anyone want to support Adam Lambert when Freddie Mercury was king of rock?

rockchic65 wrote:

happystar wrote: Why would anyone want to support Adam Lambert when Freddie Mercury was king of rock?

Is that a serious question? Well lets see, or more to the point why wouldn't they want to support him? The guy was asked to sing with one of his favourite bands, to cover for one of his favourite singers, who he admired greatly and cites as an influence. Just how many people given that opportunity would refuse? He's honoured to be asked and lets not forget he's covering for someone who sadly died, he didn't usurp or replace him. Added to that he's totally respectful of Freddie and the band's legacy, not arrogant, still considers himself a guest and always say's there's no comparing to Freddie. I'm finding it hard to see why people wouldn't respect and support someone like that. Won't be everyone's taste as a singer but that's a totally different thing. I completely fail to see what playing an instrument has to do with anything, just because Freddie did doesn't mean everyone has to. There's enough instrumentalists in the band, he doesn't need to and when he does his solo stuff he can hire a band, that's what people do, no biggie. He writes music or co writes although again no idea why that matters, he's meant to be singing Queen songs on tour, no writing needed. If he likes to wear make up and play dress up, so what, his choice, he's not harming anyone. Seriously, if you objectively look at all that your complaints are just bizzare and make no sense whatsoever.

Iron Butterfly wrote: See, thing is some Glamberts think AL is the new singer for Queen and has replaced Freddie. Check out snifflese's post in this very thread. Even AL says he is a guest and hasn't replaced Freddie...and I give him credit and thank him for that. I don get the big deal if someone doesn't like AL in his solo career or singing the Queen songs. I don't think I can ever understand the defense and protection some Glamberts do for AL. It's not mandatory that people like AL. I will say this again. Q+AL has lasted longer than I ever thought it would. And I hope Q+AL isn't the end f Brian and Roger being musicians.

Sealion wrote: @rockchick65 I wouldn’t bother answering. Happystar has a problem and that is nothing, that reasoning with him can cure.

happystar wrote: Make your mind up girl you said you do not mind if people like or hate Adam so get a life . You promote Lambert on a Queen site i promote my dislike towards the looser its a win win situation yeah ! Your not bothered about the music you just fancy him cos of his confused identity.

happystar wrote: By the way if you can decide what it is you can have it lol

happystar wrote: Goodco: Yeah Freddie Brian John Roger used make up but they had the talent to justify there image. ,Lamebird cant find any talent and he has had ten years so he is a looser. Not even had a no1 single or album in the Uk either. Fake, plastic wannabee who is not worthy of even singing one note of any Queen classic.

snifflese wrote: Icy, where is the promoting, gloating and all the nonsense you come up with? I have never posted a video, etc and if I did, so what? This is a thread and you CAN do that! I don't care what you call Adam, frontman, guest. BUT he is very often referred to as frontman after 6 years and hundreds ofr concerts. I just get tired of your vitriol and your pretending to like Adam, when all you do is criticize and have passive agressive statements. As I told you the first time I posted, it was because of your treatment of sweet Caroline. Look at your RANT about her posting videos and see who the real problem is. You have an issue with her and I just can't figure out why. As you do with me. This is a thread for everyone and if you didn't criticize us, no one would ever reply to you. Let it be. YOUR problem is Freddie obsession, say what you will. It literally kills you that Adam has been pretty successful with his role and has a lot of Freddie's attributes which contributes to that success. You can't stand it. Talk about bigging up and all the crap you normally do, pot calling kettle black! Bottom line is you love Freddie and some of us love Adam. He is not hurting Freddie in any way. He is helping grow the legacy and since Freddie can't be here to perform, he is the next best thing!!! Can't you ever be pleasant and just accept someone else's view without being so awful?

happystar wrote: Make your mind up girl you said you do not mind if people like or hate Adam so get a life . You promote Lambert on a Queen site i promote my dislike towards the looser its a win win situation yeah ! Your not bothered about the music you just fancy him cos of his confused identity.

snifflese wrote: The problem is that I am not bitter, envious or butthurt. That is YOU projecting this nonesense on others! I don't care if people like or don't like Adam. I don't care other than I think a very nice man with a lot of talent and a lovely dispostion sure takes a lot of nasty flak from haters. I also hate the way you respond to me and Sweet Caroline. I don't get it. I have no agenda. But I don't think you are very nice at all to many of us and I do feel you have a total aversion to Adam because of your unhealthy obsession with Freddie. I don't care how you get on sometimes with a couple of other folks, that is not how you react to some others. Treat everyone like that and you might have a case. You also always tend to side with the people that say really hateful things. It is up to you how you behave, but blaming it on the crap about bitter and butthurt and promoting is just plain stupid. Has nothing to do with that. I just love the QAL collaberation because the music is great. That is all there is to it and if you don't like it, fine, but don't be nasty about it.

snifflese wrote: Yea, I have unfortunately read your posts for 9 years. I can pick any one of them out as your tone and writing syle is easy to pick out. I am not a friend of Caroline necessarily, as I don't know her, but your treatment of her has been abysmal. You have hounded her for years for no reason that I can see. You also deserved to be banned from QOL as Caroline didn't post by herself!!!. If you don't like that, too bad. That is what prompted my first post. You do post personal things and I just think that if anyone was picked on for whatever reason, you might just have a little compassion and be a little kinder. If you don't want people to know things, don't post them. You also do start making excuses when people call you out. I have read your crap for too many years not to have noticed that. You are what promted my posting here as I found you to be so mean. I am not here to be a huge fan for Adam. He can gather his own fans. That is not my job. I just think you culd be less of a bully.

snifflese wrote: You are one totally messed up lady, Icy and no, I have no knowledge of sweet caroline except I feel sorry for how often you have attacked her here and on QOL. I have no aliases and no agenda and your thinking that just shows how delusional you are. WOW!! I have no reason to discuss anything with you as you come across as extremely nasty. I have just read QAL threads for about 9 years for info. Nothing creepy about that. Why is it necessary to post? I don't know enough to post about Queen to post on those threads as you Queen fans are quick to jump on anyone who hasn't got every little detail down pat. I have read too many scathing remarks on the 2 boards. I love Queen but will not post there, but it doesn't not make me a Queen fan as you always imply. How you would know that, I have no idea. But I am sure I bought Queen albums way before you did, I am just not a nutty, obsessed fan. I am a QAL fan also, so I have posted there occasionally. I do get tired of all your conspiracy crap and nonsense. I cannot fathom how that mind of yours twists and warps people's remarks. It is quite amazing!!

snifflese wrote: I have never exchanged an email with Caroline. How often do I need to say that?? Are you deaf or dumb? So I have posted an occasional comment on QOL since 2012 as I just checked and I read occasional things for about 3 years prior to that. I am not sure what the threads were called, but I have either read or posted since 2009. I occasionally read about Queen after Adam was on Idol in 2008, call the threads what you will!! No on has ever said Adam has replaced Freddie, but he has replaced him in the band known as QAL. I don't see a resurrected Freddie singing on that stage, so talking about him in relation to QAL is rather odd. If you don't understand what I have said about Adam that is not my problem. I could care less if you like him or whatever, but this envious, butthurt stuff is nonsense. You are the only one that applies to. Yes,I am such a super fan as you can see all the glowing, wonderful things I have posted about Adam and all the comments from others and youtubes that I am constantly linking to. Right!! Most of my posts have been about what a despicable person you are! Not particularly bright either,as you must not understand English really well, since you always miss the meaning and come up with these ludicrous remarks.

happystar wrote: The tour has not began yet but here is my review anyway :Still Shit. thank you.

happystar wrote: The tour has not began yet but here is my review anyway :Still Shit. thank you.

happystar wrote: vocal harmony : Your taste in music has got worse if you hand over your money to a washed up watered down band that rips the fans off big time. Freddie would be pissing himself laughing at the pathetic shell of a band Queen has become.

snifflese wrote: You must not have as good a memory as you believe, Icy. I have posted infrequently on QOL, but with my same name and I actually posted within the last month. But whether or not I did or didn't, doesn't make me a better or lesser Queen fan. Having an opinion about QAL has nothing to do with real Queen fans! My problem is you and how you treat others, esp Sweet Caroline. This is a thread where links can be shared or tweets or whatever. No where does it say that you can't do that. It would be better to quit worrying about her spamming and just ignore it. As fans do read here, they might enjoy some of her links or up to the minute news. You are not the internet police to tell her what to do. You certainly don't like anyone doing that to you. I would prefer to read her posts than your vitriolic diatribes. Although I don't normally click on her links, I did for the last three videos and found them interesting. I really enjoy comparing the voices and hearing the differeces. My opinion of Paul Rogers was the same and I actually think he is a worse fit for Queen than I did before. When you compare him to Freddie and Adam, he has the wrong type of voice and zero charisma. His being a rock icon has nothing to do with his being able to successfully perform Queen's music. I wouldn't go to a concert with him singing ever. Just doesn't work for me. I love Roger Taylor's voice. It is so quirky and different and he is just so charming when he performs. Freddie and Adam both hit all the notes and bring it, as far as I am concerned. Their tone and timbre is different and it is apples and oranges as to which voice resonates with a listener. I love them both, but since Freddie will not be present at future shows, I will just have to make do with Adam and I am happy with that. If you have a problem with that, Icy, please don't tell me about it, as I could care less about your opinion. Everyone is entitled to how they feel and you, as I said before, are not the Internet police! You are actually worse than that Runner and Happystar, since their posts are short, but yours go on and on and on and on.... I guess scroll will have to be my friend at this point.

SweetCaroline wrote: Holly, no one is comparing them. Fred, unfortinately, is no longer here and we should be happy that there are unselfish guys like Paul and Adam who have wanted to help his music to be appreciated on a live stage!

snifflese wrote: Icy, could we just agree to disagree and leave it at that? You repeat yourself adnauseum. I am sick of it. I have posted on QOL for 6 years and read on there for about 9 (Some Queen stuff in the earlier years) for 8-9, not that it is any of your business. You are like a dog with a bone who never lets anything go. You are obsessed with Freddie and Queen and I love the old Queen and now QAL. I don't think anyone else sounds as good with them as Adam (and I am not including Freddie in that, just so that is clear!! Freddie is the original, but he can't sing with them now and after him, Adam is my favorite. When I listen to him sing, I get goosebumps. My body just reacts to his voice. What can I tell you. I am allowed my opinion. You will also have to excuse us people who aren't aware of every leotard Freddie wore and when he wore it. We may not know the backstory of a particular song, but so what? Doesn't mean we can't have an opinion or post. Also this isn't just for Queen fans, it is also for QAL fans, a fact you consistently forget. Noboady would post this on a Queen thread. These things are allowed here. Quit being a backseat driver trying to tell everyone how stupid they are about Queen and calling them out. Go to the Queen only threads if these kinds of faux pas upset you so much. Just leave me out of it. I never want to have to answer you again as I find you appalling and you must be a very unhappy individual to always react like this. I feel bad for you!

SweetCaroline wrote: snifflese, give it up. Icy has to get the last word. There might be a psychological name for it but I have no idea what it is. I compare her to Donald Trump now because he always projects onto others what he himself is guilty of and must retaliates to perceived insults no matter how much internet bandwidth it takes. I started this thread for the upcoming QAL tour. I should have waited until one minute before curtain time on June 7th! See you then because this is disgusting!

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam in London: link

happystar wrote: Its is so sad and pathetic watching grown up woman acting like teenage girls discovering puberty and lusting after a guy they can never have cos he fancies fellas, so so funny.

rockchic65 wrote:

happystar wrote: Its is so sad and pathetic watching grown up woman acting like teenage girls discovering puberty and lusting after a guy they can never have cos he fancies fellas, so so funny.

Sorry that makes no sense considering this whole forum is for fans of Queen made up of people who spend a lot of time discussing all the minutiae of the band. Seems to me that's a double standard, people interested in Queen are in it for the music but somehow Adam's fans must be just lusting after him.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

happystar wrote: Its is so sad and pathetic watching grown up woman acting like teenage girls discovering puberty and lusting after a guy they can never have cos he fancies fellas, so so funny.

Sorry that makes no sense considering this whole forum is for fans of Queen made up of people who spend a lot of time discussing all the minutiae of the band. Seems to me that's a double standard, people interested in Queen are in it for the music but somehow Adam's fans must be just lusting after him.

There's one Glambert here who I know lusts after Adam and it's very obvious.. The Adam is so goo (good) looking thread made here by sweetcaroline, plus the comments by her posted here how gorgeous, sexy, handsome etc, he is according to her. Sorry, QZ isn't a preteen AL discussion board.

someonewholikesadam wrote: I am not shy about admitting that I lust (or lusted) after Adam. He is sexy and good-looking as hell! And I doubt that the reason I can never have him is because lusts after guys. LOL.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

happystar wrote: Its is so sad and pathetic watching grown up woman acting like teenage girls discovering puberty and lusting after a guy they can never have cos he fancies fellas, so so funny.

Sorry that makes no sense considering this whole forum is for fans of Queen made up of people who spend a lot of time discussing all the minutiae of the band. Seems to me that's a double standard, people interested in Queen are in it for the music but somehow Adam's fans must be just lusting after him.

There's one Glambert here who I know lusts after Adam and it's very obvious.. The Adam is so goo (good) looking thread made here by sweetcaroline, plus the comments by her posted here how gorgeous, sexy, handsome etc, he is according to her. Sorry, QZ isn't a preteen AL discussion board.

There's obviously the odd fan who does feel like that but happystar is implying they're all lusting after him and that it's all they're interested in.

someonewholikesadam wrote: Rock chic, That is a very good question. It's like asking if Elvis would have gained such popularity if his looks weren't taken into consideration. I suppose the answer is no but I'm not sure. I think the reason I love Adam so much is a compilation, a triple threat: the voice, the stage presence and the looks. Do you think Freddie would have been so beloved had been an ugly, fat man? I think not.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

someonewholikesadam wrote: Rock chic, That is a very good question. It's like asking if Elvis would have gained such popularity if his looks weren't taken into consideration. I suppose the answer is no but I'm not sure. I think the reason I love Adam so much is a compilation, a triple threat: the voice, the stage presence and the looks. Do you think Freddie would have been so beloved had been an ugly, fat man? I think not.

As a Freddie fan, let me tell you. I admire the guy for his talent, determination and courage. Looks are the last thing I think about. Too bad sweetcaroline and yourself put so much in how you think Adam looks. I know she does especially.

someonewholikesadam wrote: Iron Butterfly, If Adam were the sexiest, most gorgeous man on earth but was a mediocre singer or lacked charisma and a fabulous stage persona, I would not give him a second glance. When I am being entertained, I like it on all levels, acoustically as well as visually. I think you are a woman. I think you are not being completely honest with yourself. If Freddie were fat and ugly, I really don't think you would be the fan that you are. He is a complete package. He had a sexy charisma like Adam does. And like Mick Jagger. Freddie and Mick weren't the best looking guys but they both had a great deal of sex appeal.

someonewholikesadam wrote: Iron Butterfly, If Adam were the sexiest, most gorgeous man on earth but was a mediocre singer or lacked charisma and a fabulous stage persona, I would not give him a second glance. When I am being entertained, I like it on all levels, acoustically as well as visually. I think you are a woman. I think you are not being completely honest with yourself. If Freddie were fat and ugly, I really don't think you would be the fan that you are. He is a complete package. He had a sexy charisma like Adam does. And like Mick Jagger. Freddie and Mick weren't the best looking guys but they both had a great deal of sex appeal.

Sealion wrote: Looks are important. As mentioned before, Elvis is a great example. As are many singers in today’s pop business. You can be very successful without being able to sing better than my neighbour. ;-). But if you don’t have the right look, you will probably never get your foot into any music label’s door. I still remember, when Paul Potts or Susan Boyle came on stage on“Britain got talent“. The jury was mocking them and didn’t take them seriously, before they started singing. They got through by sheer talent. But if they didn’t have that huge stage, where the judges had to listen to the audience‘s cheers, would they have gotten a chance in the music business? Probably not. It’s different in rock music. I don’t think looks are as important here. I certainly never became a Queen-fan, because I found the band members“cute“. Although I know, that women were especially attracted by Roger back in the days. So maybe I‘m wrong. It also depends on your first experience with the singer. If you listened to him/her on the radio/record, before you ever saw him/her, their looks might be unimportant. If you see him/her first (or at the same time as he/she is singing), the look is very important. It’s our human nature: The sense of sight is our most important sensory organ. We decide, if someone is likable in less than a second. And we can’t control that.

someonewholikesadam wrote: Why are you saying looks are THE most important thing to me? You just want it to be to make your point. You completely ignored my post. And you never answered my question. Would you love Freddie as much if he were fat and ugly? You don't know the answer. And the crawling on the floor is Adam's theatricality, not his sexiness. Obviously you don't know the difference. And part of his sexiness is his intelligence, his wit and his kindness. And his large penis. Threw that last one in to see if you were paying attention.

someonewholikesadam wrote: You mean like Susan Boyle?

someonewholikesadam wrote: Iron Butterfly doesn't understand the subtleties of performing. She thinks GDML is Adam actually trying to be sexy. I guess everything is black and white for her.

Sealion wrote: @rockchick65 Of course (most) human beings are sensible enough to revise the first impression we had of a person. But the first sight can never be wiped out completely. Another aspect are of course our explanations: When we go to a concert, we‘re usually much more open to like someone, because of his musical talent, stage presence or whatever. When we’re dating, looks are much more important (usually) ;-) in the end, humans are just shallow. It’s our animalic side: Good looking, strong people are attractive, because they are good breeders. Thankfully tastes differ. But looking at worldwide stars in the music and show business I can’t remember completely unattractive ones.

someonewholikesadam wrote: You're right. I probably wouldn't like Adam as much if he were "fat and ugly." But as I said before, I also wouldn't like him if he were drop-dead gorgeous and talentless. He's the complete package to me. And probably to Sweet Caroline too. And to most of his "older" fans. Nothing wrong with it and certainly nothing pathetic about it (as one poster put it). Human nature.

rockchic65 wrote:

someonewholikesadam wrote: Well, Adam certainly isn't good looking in this old fuzzy video. He looks like a young Richard Simmons. But I LOVE this performance. So, if I were to analyze what's attractive to me, it's not so much looks as performance style. Seems my favorite artists have the same theatrical style of performance. James Brown, Madonna, Prince, Adam Lambert, etc. link

someonewholikesadam wrote: Iron Butterfly What are you talking about??? I think you have an iron skull.

SweetCaroline wrote: This is for nasty icy since she has convinced herself it is the one and only song Adam sings well: link

snifflese wrote: You might notice that during this discussion on looks, Icy has to drag Caroline into it(several times for no good reason) as one of those deluded Glamberts who thinks Adam is attractive. Then she complains that Caroline is always out to get her whereas Icy is the one who always instigates this stuff. I believe way back when, Caroline made some comment about Adam being a sexy beast because folks on QOL were making fun of him and his "campy" style and just derogatory remarks in general. I am sure you can guess the nature of them. Caroline defended him and since then Icy has thrown this at her. I don't think Caroline has the hots for Adam. She just came to his defense. I am in my 60's and have the hots for no one, but I can still appreciate a good looking fellow. Nothing wrong with that! Of course good looking people who also have talent, star power, etc are going to have an easier time being successful. I personally think Elvis would never have gotten where he was without his good looks. Nowadays it might be a little easier, but in years past good looks were very important. The Voice bases its whole show on this premise. Of course, you can be successful if you are homely, but it is harder. Good looks is something that makes you stand out and if you then have the requisite voice or talent and determination, it will be easier for you to be successful. Freddie might have had an easier go with it because of the rest of the band. He was certainly no looker with those big buck teeth and his in your face style on stage. I remember them from the early years, thinking Brian was dreamy and Roger quite handsome and Freddie kind of scared me. He might have had a harder time becoming popular had he been a solo act. Back in the 1970's and 1980's looks were very important. It is not just in music as I believe people who are good looking initially have an easier time in just about any career choice. Read any pop psychology and they will tell you that. Check out the really successful politicians where it doesn't hurt to be easy on the eyes! Looks are esp important in Hollywood and the entertainment field and you are fooling yourself if you think that is not the case. You can still make it, but it will be much harder. Adam is lucky to have charisma, an engaging personality, a tongue in cheek humor, a stellar voice and massive good looks. These may not affect how you hear his recorded music, but they certainly affect you when you see a performance. Appreciating all these things makes you a fan and some folks are super fans, but lusting is not a prerequsite!

snifflese wrote: Back in the day I rarely saw the Queen unless it was in a teen magazine, but there was something about Freddie that scared me, don't ask me why, I couldn't tell you, but that is what I felt. To each his own. I loved him singing, but that was a purely auditory experience and looks can't enter into that. I would still enjoy Adam if he were less handsome, that is not the ultimate for me and I din't say that. I simply stated that good looks are a help in any endeavor, esp anything to do with politics and the entertainment business. Often when I hear music I have no idea what an artist looks like and that doesn't add or take away from my enjoyment, but in a performance looks do influence it just as much as a performer having charm or a natural presence on stage. I would love Adam't voice no matter what he looked like, but a great big fat Adam might not be quite so attractive on stage. There are not many big fat performer (other than opera) for a reason! Nope, I don't believe in doing any kind of enhancement, wouldn't even think of it. I have never even been a person who wears make up daily, only when I do go out and now not even then sometimes. It depends on how special the occasion is. I am a jeans wearing, no frills kind of a person! I have never been into fashion or worried about what I looked like! I have been married for 46 years and my husband is obviously OK with how I look. That is the only thing that is important now.

SweetCaroline wrote: snifflese, we have so much in common. I would have been married 48 years this year if my poor husband wouldn’t have died from a sudden, massive heart attack right before his 36th birthday! I discovered Adam very accidentally when I tuned into AI and saw him perform “Satisfactiom.” My first impression was that his profile resembled Elvis and his voice was out of this world. I was not a regular viewer so did not see his audition of BoRhap or when he performed MJ’s “Black or White.” Then I just happened to tune in when it was country week and he performed that totally amazing version of “Ring Of Fire” and have been a fan ever since. I certainly do not “lust” after him and never have. I look at him more like another son. As usual, icy has it all wrong! Anyway I enjoy being his fan and love that he fits so well with Queen. I didn’t get to be an Elvis fan, was too busy raising two little kids. Adam has been my Elvis. He is an amazing person and talent and I’m happy for the wonderful relationship he has with Brian, Roger, Neil, Spike, Tyler and Rufus when he was there. He is not riding on anyone’s coattails because he more than holds up his part of the bargain.

SweetCaroline wrote: I look at Adam as another son because he is younger than both my son and my daughter. I am definitely old enough to be his mother if not his grandmother, but I can still appreciate that he is good looking and even sexy. I still can’t believe he is the overweight ginger haired young man on the video of his graduation. Yes, I defend him because of the unwarranted criticism he gets that he is too fat, too camp and just a karaoke singer! I’ve never seen a video of him calling people “darling” like Freddie used to do so why do diehard Freddie fans say Adam is “too gay?” I don’t understand why every thread Adam fans start for the QAL shows ends up being pages and pages of attacks on Adam. He is still not being accepted after almost 7 years of performing in this collaboration.

snifflese wrote: Icy, just curious why you are so worried about rehearsal time? You always mention it and it is honestly something that wouldn't occur to me. I think everyone is in London so they may all be practicing but after 200 some shows, how much practice do they need? They play a pretty flawless show with only a minor glitsch here and there. Adam has said the music is internalized at this point so I doubt they need the amount of practice that was necessary in the beginning. No need to tire themselves out at this point as they have a busy summer and Sept. I imagine you are looking for a new song? But I doubt that woud take days of practice. I am sure they will practice until they are confident in their product, so I wouldn't worry about it. I have read that the Vegas shows will be shorter as they are not that long in the casinos and they are extremely strict about going over the time. Anybody know?

Brancelli wrote: Hoping for Liar or White Queen this time around. Hell, I'd even take Great King Rat or Father to Son. Maybe Nevermore?

snifflese wrote: I would enjoy a new song or an old one like Now I"m here, I Was Born to Love You or Save Me, something that they haven't sung for a while. Rehearsing a previously sung song shouldn't be too time intensive and a new one shouldn't be that hard either. Maybe they are practicing and we just don't know it as not everything is known to the general public. I am not sure that more practice would save a flub like BR. Maybe you are different, but once I make a mistake, like someone's name, I am more likely than not, to do it again. My son had a teacher, Mrs. Small and I often called her Mrs. Little! It was really hard to get it right and normally such things are not a problem for me. Singers and musicians make mistakes and most folks aren't too riled up about it. I don't see why Adam would ever have to explain what happened. It isn't our business and he may not even really know. In the big scheme that was a tiny, tiny flaw when you consider all the hundreds of hours of performing and singing. Nobody is perfect at the end of the day. If Freddie could mess up his own music, I am sure Adam might occasionally also mess up someone else's songs. I know he has flubbed a few things on his songs occasionally. No biggie!! I doubt most people even notice!

SweetCaroline wrote: I still say singing the verses of Bohemian Rhapsody out of order is NOT as egregious as a multi Grammy winner stopping in a TV awards performance on two separate occasions and starting over. Now we will have 3 more pages from you know who why THAT was fine but what Adam did by professionally covering up was unforgivable and due to a lack of rehearsals!

SweetCaroline wrote: Nope, the George Michael tribute wasn’t the only time she had to start over: link So stop picking on Adam! Dammit (as Adele would say, only worse)!

Sealion wrote: It may surprise you, but Lambert flubbs lyrics like every other singer does. Just listen to his performance in Rock in Rio 2015. I watched that show in the middle of the night online and still remember it. I think he had often problems with IWIA, DSMN, TSMGO and WWRY. Another fan told me once, that he attended a Q+AL show in Asia 2016 (?). And he hated Lambert for almost „destroying“ his favorite song TSMGO. I watched it on YT later and he was right. BUT: Nobody here ever really gave a shit about it. I think it‘s rather telling, that people on here only talk about the mistake on one tour in BoRhap. My interpretation: You either don‘t know the other songs well and thus didn‘t notice the mistakes or you don‘t watch the recordings and only want to criticize. From personal experiences as a performer and from many , many concerts: It‘s completely human and normal, that these mistakes happen. If they happen in your favorite song, that‘s personal bad luck. ;-)

Sealion wrote: So, I guess then we will have to read another 100 times about the BoRhap flubbs in the future... As you might see, I‘ve no problem discussing these things. It can be interesting. But not time after time after time the same. That’s why I‘m out.

SweetCaroline wrote: My POINT is that Adam doesn’t stop, swear and start over. He powers through and only the annoying nitpickers are offended. So I guess no one would mind if HE stopped, swore and said “oh dearie me, I’ve forgotten the words?”

Sealion wrote: @sweetcaroline Every artist is different. I don‘t think, that starting over is a good way to handle lyric flubbs. Apparently Adele thinks differently. All that had also been discussed by you before. The friend i mentioned, who was at that Tokyo show, might have been happier, if the boys had started over on TSMGO, by the way. @ironbutterfly I actually thought, you belong to the second group, that I described. And you even confirmed it. Even without knowing every concert, I‘m absolutely sure, that we could find lyric flubbs in every show. Usually not that noticeable, but they‘re there. No need to discuss old ones. ;-) But don‘t worry: I won‘t go there.

Sealion wrote: Most musicians don‘t start again, when they messed up. I can’t see Queen ever doing that. There are several reasons: 1. When exactly is the mistake that big, that it would be better to start over? Who decides that? 2. They are a band. If they started over every time one of them has a problem/fails, they would need to start over on a regular basis. (Just imagine RiR 2015! With all the issues they had, they would have needed to play every second song twice.) 3. The result would be, that everyone in the audience recognized the mistakes. The band would be considered unprofessional. 4. Especially concerning lyric fails: You said, that Lambert got BoRhap 3 nights wrong. Do I remember it correctly, that it was always in the same verse? If it was at the same moment each time, then it weren’t the monitors. It‘s a typical memory fail. The melody is the same and the brain has the wrong connection. Had they started over without Lambert being able to read the lyrics, he would have certainly had the same problem again at the same moment. It was the same with TSMGO: he had the same problems the nights before. But thanks to a teleporter on stage he had been able to save it earlier. The nights later, he stayed in front of that screen for the whole song. ;-) Problem: During BoRhap he was on a little lift without the possibility to look at his little helper. So starting over wouldn‘t help in most cases. As long as the singer is able to go on, even though he is singing wrong lyrics, most people really don‘t recognize it. And for fans it’s usually rather amusing. I still remember Freddie’s „Lalala“, when he couldn’t remember one of the verses. And Roger’s face, when Lambert made up some strange lyrics at RIR was priceless as well. As Brian says: Live shows are dangerous.

Sealion wrote: Most musicians don‘t start again, when they messed up. I can’t see Queen ever doing that. There are several reasons: 1. When exactly is the mistake that big, that it would be better to start over? Who decides that? 2. They are a band. If they started over every time one of them has a problem/fails, they would need to start over on a regular basis. (Just imagine RiR 2015! With all the issues they had, they would have needed to play every second song twice.) 3. The result would be, that everyone in the audience recognized the mistakes. The band would be considered unprofessional. 4. Especially concerning lyric fails: You said, that Lambert got BoRhap 3 nights wrong. Do I remember it correctly, that it was always in the same verse? If it was at the same moment each time, then it weren’t the monitors. It‘s a typical memory fail. The melody is the same and the brain has the wrong connection. Had they started over without Lambert being able to read the lyrics, he would have certainly had the same problem again at the same moment. It was the same with TSMGO: he had the same problems the nights before. But thanks to a teleporter on stage he had been able to save it earlier. The nights later, he stayed in front of that screen for the whole song. ;-) Problem: During BoRhap he was on a little lift without the possibility to look at his little helper. So starting over wouldn‘t help in most cases. As long as the singer is able to go on, even though he is singing wrong lyrics, most people really don‘t recognize it. And for fans it’s usually rather amusing. I still remember Freddie’s „Lalala“, when he couldn’t remember one of the verses. And Roger’s face, when Lambert made up some strange lyrics at RIR was priceless as well. As Brian says: Live shows are dangerous.

Sealion wrote: Most musicians don‘t start again, when they messed up. I can’t see Queen ever doing that. There are several reasons: 1. When exactly is the mistake that big, that it would be better to start over? Who decides that? 2. They are a band. If they started over every time one of them has a problem/fails, they would need to start over on a regular basis. (Just imagine RiR 2015! With all the issues they had, they would have needed to play every second song twice.) 3. The result would be, that everyone in the audience recognized the mistakes. The band would be considered unprofessional. 4. Especially concerning lyric fails: You said, that Lambert got BoRhap 3 nights wrong. Do I remember it correctly, that it was always in the same verse? If it was at the same moment each time, then it weren’t the monitors. It‘s a typical memory fail. The melody is the same and the brain has the wrong connection. Had they started over without Lambert being able to read the lyrics, he would have certainly had the same problem again at the same moment. It was the same with TSMGO: he had the same problems the nights before. But thanks to a teleporter on stage he had been able to save it earlier. The nights later, he stayed in front of that screen for the whole song. ;-) Problem: During BoRhap he was on a little lift without the possibility to look at his little helper. So starting over wouldn‘t help in most cases. As long as the singer is able to go on, even though he is singing wrong lyrics, most people really don‘t recognize it. And for fans it’s usually rather amusing. I still remember Freddie’s „Lalala“, when he couldn’t remember one of the verses. And Roger’s face, when Lambert made up some strange lyrics at RIR was priceless as well. As Brian says: Live shows are dangerous.

runner_70 wrote: Embarrassing seeing this tool who wants to be taken seriously visiting a morning brunch show for the housewives. Well it s the new core audience now so it is understandable. In glorious times they catered for the rock fans

rockchic65 wrote:

runner_70 wrote: Embarrassing seeing this tool who wants to be taken seriously visiting a morning brunch show for the housewives. Well it s the new core audience now so it is understandable. In glorious times they catered for the rock fans

Don't see what's embarrassing about it, if you have something to promote you need to get seen.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

runner_70 wrote: Embarrassing seeing this tool who wants to be taken seriously visiting a morning brunch show for the housewives. Well it s the new core audience now so it is understandable. In glorious times they catered for the rock fans

Don't see what's embarrassing about it, if you have something to promote you need to get seen.

What late night talk shows are shown in the UK?

runner_70 wrote: I am not from the UK. But the programme looked embarassing. Regarding the plane: They use the crest Freddie designed. SO what?

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

runner_70 wrote: Embarrassing seeing this tool who wants to be taken seriously visiting a morning brunch show for the housewives. Well it s the new core audience now so it is understandable. In glorious times they catered for the rock fans

Don't see what's embarrassing about it, if you have something to promote you need to get seen.

What late night talk shows are shown in the UK?

There's a few, Jonathan Ross, Graham Norton, Alan Carr Chatty Man, Adam's been on that one a few times, they're hilarious together. link

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

runner_70 wrote: Embarrassing seeing this tool who wants to be taken seriously visiting a morning brunch show for the housewives. Well it s the new core audience now so it is understandable. In glorious times they catered for the rock fans

Don't see what's embarrassing about it, if you have something to promote you need to get seen.

What late night talk shows are shown in the UK?

There's a few, Jonathan Ross, Graham Norton, Alan Carr Chatty Man, Adam's been on that one a few times, they're hilarious together. link

Too bad Q+AL didn't appear on those shows this time around.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

runner_70 wrote: Embarrassing seeing this tool who wants to be taken seriously visiting a morning brunch show for the housewives. Well it s the new core audience now so it is understandable. In glorious times they catered for the rock fans

Don't see what's embarrassing about it, if you have something to promote you need to get seen.

What late night talk shows are shown in the UK?

There's a few, Jonathan Ross, Graham Norton, Alan Carr Chatty Man, Adam's been on that one a few times, they're hilarious together. link

Too bad Q+AL didn't appear on those shows this time around.

Yeah it's weird, to say they're an English band they get very little promo over here, way more everywhere else they go. I thought they may have been on the Britain's Got Talent finale, that would have been great promo and it's Simon Cowell's show, he likes Adam, but nothing. Adam did Lorraine one morning and they all did something in Ireland but I think that was it.

Holly2003 wrote: Geddy Lee -- fake? link

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam performed “Never Close Our Eyes” on the Graham Norton Show when he was solo touring in 2012: link

Holly2003 wrote: That's a nice image of the Queen logo on a plane but I prefer this: link British Rock Legend

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Holly2003 wrote: That's a nice image of the Queen logo on a plane but I prefer this: link British Rock Legend

Pretty damn cool.

Holly2003 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Holly2003 wrote: That's a nice image of the Queen logo on a plane but I prefer this: link British Rock Legend

Pretty damn cool.

Freddie would've have liked his face on the rear end ... badda boom, tish!

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Holly2003 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Holly2003 wrote: That's a nice image of the Queen logo on a plane but I prefer this: link British Rock Legend

Pretty damn cool.

Freddie would've have liked his face on the rear end ... badda boom, tish!

LOL.

Holly2003 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Holly2003 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Holly2003 wrote: That's a nice image of the Queen logo on a plane but I prefer this: link British Rock Legend

Pretty damn cool.

Freddie would've have liked his face on the rear end ... badda boom, tish!

LOL.

Maybe I should play Vegas on the Queen+ undercard. Puppet Show Queen+AL "Holly2003's Bad Taste Jokes About Queen's Former Lead Singer" Louis CK as John Deacon at Wembley '86

SweetCaroline wrote: People have complained when TSMGO isn’t in the QAL set list so I don’t know what the big deal is about that song. If anything it is a tribute to Freddie that in his absence, the show must still go on!

snifflese wrote: Icy, this kind of nonsense doesn't make SC look bad, it makes you look pathetic. It is a new day and obviously you did not learn your lesson yesterday. What is wrong with you and your buddies? The last thing needed on this board is more old posts from the three of you. They don't prove a thing, as you twist them up and one post doesn't reflect all the other things that were said. Why do you people always want to show up people, make them look bad and then fight about it? But the most important thing is that we don't need a rehash of past history told from one side. Find something new and positive to post here. That would be a nice change or go post about Freddie in the Queen section, maybe it would be nice to get a discussion going there since you like him so much and no, I am not being facetious. You might enjoy that.

snifflese wrote: Icy, this kind of nonsense doesn't make SC look bad, it makes you look pathetic. It is a new day and obviously you did not learn your lesson yesterday. What is wrong with you and your buddies? The last thing needed on this board is more old posts from the three of you. They don't prove a thing, as you twist them up and one post doesn't reflect all the other things that were said. Why do you people always want to show up people, make them look bad and then fight about it? But the most important thing is that we don't need a rehash of past history told from one side. Find something new and positive to post here. That would be a nice change or go post about Freddie in the Queen section, maybe it would be nice to get a discussion going there since you like him so much and no, I am not being facetious. You might enjoy that.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: People have complained when TSMGO isn’t in the QAL set list so I don’t know what the big deal is about that song. If anything it is a tribute to Freddie that in his absence, the show must still go on!

You sparkle cow. Here is where you have said you don't know what the big deal is about the song. Clueless, thoughtless and souless. That's you.