QueenZone discussion #1502837

runner_70 wrote: Seems to be I am the only one that thinks that links on FB and QOL to "daily mirror" and alike are disturbing and upsetting. Every real Queenfan knows that tabloids like this were haunting Freddie til his last days. Roger and Brian more than once stated that they hated those Papers. And now it is no problem to put up links on their official sites and advertise them? For me it is plain proof that they lost every dignity they had and would do anything to sell QAL which is more than discgraceful. Thoughts?

rockchic65 wrote: I think the fact that the pages are run by admin's means they probably don't know what went on with those rags. Added to that the Daily Mirror at least is no longer owned/run by the same people, don't know about the Mail. Brian & Roger probably wouldn't have a problem with the Mirror based on that. I wonder how often they check what's being posted on QOL and Facebook, they may not even know, especially while their on tour in Oz, probably busy and not keeping track. Obviously they don't have any control over what the paper's print. Just my thoughts.

runner_70 wrote: Yes by accident Cannot find any button to delete. As there is no discussion from the Glamberts I should delete both I assume.

snifflese wrote: It desn't matter where the reviews are from at this point because pretty much 100% are over the top positive reviews. I haven't seen any poor ones. By the way they all mention ADAM"S AMAZING VOICE!!! Not something you see very often in a band's review.

snifflese wrote: Look, all the reviews are nothing but GLOWING, whether it be tabloids or legit media sources. That is what has your little nose out of joint, Icy. I just don't get the connection between tabloid reviews for Freddie 30 + years ago and QAL. As you always say, Queen has nothing whatsoever to do with QAL. So, previous tabloid reviews have zero to do with QAL as it is now. Not something I think about or really care about. I will say that once someone is dead, their star is quite often much more shining than when they were alive. Micheal Jackson, for example? Past transgressions are often forgotten. Perhaps Freddie is idolized too much. At least for me he is, considering how everyone here treats Brian and Roger. They were a band and all four of them put in the work for Queen, not just Freddie. Sometimes I think you forget that. Those two wrote wonderful music and are consummate musicians and performers. It wasn't just all about Freddie for a lot of people. Brian is my favorite member of Queen, for example and has been since the 1970's. This is today and we are dealing with QAL and if you don't like it. there are plenty of like minded people out there. You don't all need to infest this site. Go post on the Queen threads, for example!

snifflese wrote: Why do I need to discuss Freddie when we are discussing QAL??? I guess that is what I just don't understand. Go discuss Queen if you want to constantly repeat the litany of Freddie and his blood, sweat and tears. Roger and Brian put in the same amount of work. John Deacon, I don't know as much about, but he was also a huge part. But for you people, Queen is pretty much Freddie and that is fine, but why do you keep pulling Freddie into the current mix? I don't see him up on that stage. Of course, he is an icon and he wrote a lot of the music, but he is not a member of this band now and how he was treated has nothing to do with now. This idea of people getting their own way is truly nuts. I am not interested in my own way. I am just discussing. You always want to win, Icy. If that is the case, go to a site where just Queen is talked about or where they hate QAL. They will be all on board with you. If people disagree with you or point out that Freddie isn't the end and all and the be all of Queen, you pull out this" getting your way crap". I don't even know what you are talking about! If you are interested in the music, I don't hear much of that in your posts. You people just drone on about the evils of QAL and how Freddie is the only Rock God ever. Great! But not everyone, feels that way. By the way, I don't think I ever said that Brian and Roger are saved by Adam. It is just nice that they can continue their music with a great singer. End of story!!

runner_70 wrote: Just another proof how delusional and pathetic glamberts are which is another reason for me for hating qal. Just Shows that its all about glowing reviews even from those sad papers they hated back then. Just a shame like the whole QAL debacle

runner_70 wrote: why we need to discuss Freddie on a QAL thread????? Maybe you should think on which person your annoying screecher is building the last straws of his career upon?? You the guy Lamebird is doing karaoke with every night he struts on stage like a parrott. The guy the tool will remember when he is back on cruise ships when the QAL debacle is over and when he will be telling the 20 overweight grandmas in the audience that he was once fronting a band called Queen. That's why we need to discuss Freddie. Got it now???? Thank goodness the guy's career will be over once he is not on Maylor's payroll anymore. It really gets annoying with his delusional Glamtart fans.

snifflese wrote: Why do I need to discuss Freddie when we are discussing QAL???

snifflese wrote: I realize all these things about Freddie, of course. But, they don't have much to do with what is going on right now. You people get worked up into a frenzy here and keep saying the same tired old stuff. It just doesn't have much to do with now. Now is what people here should be discussing. Go to a Queen thread to discuss Freddie's trials and tribulations 30 plus years ago. How that affects this group, right now, I am not sure. Mentioning once OK, but you repeat it ad naseum. You are never going to like Adam. No problem, but how many different ways can you say it? I happen to think Adam will be OK without singing with Queen later on. This is a wonderful chapter in his life and I think he is smart to take advantage of this neat experience. It is like living a dream, but he will be fine no matter what. With a voice like that, there always will be opportunities.We don't know what his new music will be like and there is always Broadway. I think singing with Queen has been wonderful for Adam, but he has helped make QAL what it is. They would not be performing to bigger crowds with almost universal acclaim if he was not part of this regarless of what you think. We will just have to differ on that. And you don't have to resort to foul language again, Icy. I think the spun up person is you, Icy, as you can't abide anything said about Freddie that isn't 100% butt kissing and that is your problem! Not mine! Living in the past is never good for anyone.

snifflese wrote: Nobody is disputing that, but it doesn't matter to me about tabloids and reviews.

runner_70 wrote: Same with their current singer. A casting muppet they hated years ago

The Real Wizard wrote:

snifflese wrote: Why do I need to discuss Freddie when we are discussing QAL???

Because if you understood how the tabloids hounded Freddie for the last year of his life, you'd be appalled like the people who are trying to talk some sense into you. I get that you're into the current project and a big fan of Lambert, but history is still history, and bygones sometimes aren't bygones. The paparazzi were horrific to Mercury, and you aren't going to get Queen fans who were around back then to forget that in favour of marketing a project that just isn't going to matter ten years from now. Reality check - this tour, great as it is, is a postscript.

The Real Wizard wrote:

snifflese wrote: Nobody is disputing that, but it doesn't matter to me about tabloids and reviews.

...which is precisely why you aren't part of the dialogue. You aren't a Queen fan. You really are wasting your time if you think you can come to a Queen forum and minimize a major part of their history. Numerous people are spelling out the obvious to you, but you are clearly (at best) too thick and (at worst) lacking in basic levels of human empathy to understand it.

runner_70 wrote: They hated casting muppets in General and even made a song about those clowns-C-lebrity.

rockchic65 wrote: As I've said previously Adam was never your usual reality show contestant. Would it have somehow made Freddie less talented if he was around now and had resorted to X Factor to get noticed?

rockchic65 wrote: Wasn't talking about playing instruments, the guy who won played various instruments, didn't make any difference to his ability to get a recording contract without going on a talent show. The recording industry has changed drastically, and not for the better. I said if Freddie were around now, meaning just because someone has talent, be it singing, playing instruments whatever doesn't automatically mean you are going to get spotted or offered a recording contract. People do what they have to do, doesn't take away from their talent at all.

snifflese wrote: I realize all these things about Freddie, of course. But, they don't have much to do with what is going on right now. You people get worked up into a frenzy here and keep saying the same tired old stuff. It just doesn't have much to do with now. Now is what people here should be discussing. Go to a Queen thread to discuss Freddie's trials and tribulations 30 plus years ago. How that affects this group, right now, I am not sure. Mentioning once OK, but you repeat it ad naseum. You are never going to like Adam. No problem, but how many different ways can you say it? I happen to think Adam will be OK without singing with Queen later on. This is a wonderful chapter in his life and I think he is smart to take advantage of this neat experience. It is like living a dream, but he will be fine no matter what. With a voice like that, there always will be opportunities.We don't know what his new music will be like and there is always Broadway. I think singing with Queen has been wonderful for Adam, but he has helped make QAL what it is. They would not be performing to bigger crowds with almost universal acclaim if he was not part of this regarless of what you think. We will just have to differ on that. And you don't have to resort to foul language again, Icy. I think the spun up person is you, Icy, as you can't abide anything said about Freddie that isn't 100% butt kissing and that is your problem! Not mine! Living in the past is never good for anyone.

snifflese wrote: AND WHAT? You reading comprehension isn't all that. This is no gotcha! moment. I said Queen is from the past and right now, in the here and now, it is QAL. When they toured with Rogers, that would have been the Queen configuratioin at that time. But since 1991, Queen is no longer the 4 original members. I don't know what your point is. I told you that above and I have told you that several times, including today. I don't know why you thought I said anything else. That is half your problem, you don't get what people are saying in their posts. I have ALWAYS said the QAL is the here and now, nothing else.