QueenZone discussion #1501489
Which dates are you going to?
| Voice of Reason 2018 08.02.2018 16:39 |
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| Voice of Reason 2018 08.02.2018 16:40 |
That is my question for you! Let's get excited about the tour! Can you believe we saw them in Europe in 2015, 2016 and 2017 and now have then chance to see them again so soon?!! Cheers. |
| cyborg10 08.02.2018 17:11 |
Cologne, Rotterdam and Antwerp ?????? |
| cyborg10 08.02.2018 17:12 |
Cologne, Rotterdam and Antwerp :-) let’s rock |
| softcalavera2 09.02.2018 00:00 |
The south american tour...may be this year...september or october. I saw Q + AL nine times and only one with PR. |
| inu-liger 09.02.2018 09:29 |
Rotterdam |
| Bertus 09.02.2018 12:53 |
Antwerp, Rotterdam |
| Togg 09.02.2018 14:44 |
O2 |
| Mr. Bed Guy 09.02.2018 16:34 |
none, of course |
| oliverd05 09.02.2018 17:47 |
Sadly none this year, unless a Newcastle date appears |
| darkorian1 09.02.2018 20:30 |
Madrid!!!! 09-06-18 The day after my birthday!! First time to see Brian May, Roger Taylor and Spike Edney... the Real Legends! |
| people on streets 10.02.2018 00:49 |
None. Saw Q+AL once. That was more than enough. Queen + PR 2005 tour was much better. Never seen Queen with Freddie unfortunately |
| SweetCaroline 10.02.2018 01:25 |
That’s not what I heard about QPR compared to QAL. |
| Iron Butterfly 10.02.2018 03:30 |
SweetCaroline wrote: That’s not what I heard about QPR compared to QAL.I bet, because your head is so filled with Lambert only. You rarely have discussed anything much about Q+PR only to call that boring and bland, and to say you think Q+AL is better. |
| SweetCaroline 10.02.2018 10:47 |
Unlike you, Icy, I’ve never seen QPR or Paul performing in person! LOL I’ve only seen QAL and Adam performing live! |
| Maxïmo Razzamatazz 10.02.2018 12:22 |
Cologne, Amsterdam and Antwerp. |
| Secretfantasy 10.02.2018 14:53 |
Berlin. A group of 4 us standing tickets. Flying from UK cost £18. Cheaper than grttin train to London shows. |
| Maxïmo Razzamatazz 10.02.2018 15:00 |
I meant Rotterdam. |
| SweetCaroline 10.02.2018 17:42 |
Hope all of you going to the next shows have an absolutely fabulous time! |
| Iron Butterfly 10.02.2018 20:24 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Unlike you, Icy, I’ve never seen QPR or Paul performing in person! LOL I’ve only seen QAL and Adam performing live!Yea, but even your without ever having Q+PR you sure felt t was boring and bland LOL. I haven't seen Q+PR either, but I liked the concerts very much, ROTC is proof that at least for awhile it was good. TCR wasn't so much good, hardly the best work in their careers. But yes, I like Q+PR better than Q+AL. |
| Iron Butterfly 10.02.2018 20:25 |
Secretfantasy wrote: Berlin. A group of 4 us standing tickets. Flying from UK cost £18. Cheaper than grttin train to London shows.Jealous at the price of the airfare! Wow. |
| SweetCaroline 10.02.2018 22:02 |
Paul can’t do what Adam does and I’m not the one who said he is boring and that Adam fits Queen Music better than Paul. I don’t think he is better than Adam but I really like Jeffrey Scott Soto! |
| Iron Butterfly 10.02.2018 22:25 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Paul can’t do what Adam does and I’m not the one who said he is boring and that Adam fits Queen Music better than Paul. I don’t think he is better than Adam but I really like Jeffrey Scott Soto!Oh dear. Yes, you have said Paul was bland and boring on QOL. Do you think you are impartial about Adam? You aren't. To to you, AL can do this, do that, better than anyone else. Wow, we agree. I like JSS too ;-). See, there are things we can agree on. It's rare, but it does happen ;-). |
| SweetCaroline 10.02.2018 22:36 |
I may have said that about Paul based on videos. Maybe if I saw him in person I would like him, but yes after following Adam for 9 years now (2009), I haven’t seen or heard anyone better, including Timberlake, Sheeran, Smith, Puth, and any other new guys since that time. |
| Iron Butterfly 10.02.2018 23:31 |
SweetCaroline wrote: I may have said that about Paul based on videos. Maybe if I saw him in person I would like him, but yes after following Adam for 9 years now (2009), I haven’t seen or heard anyone better, including Timberlake, Sheeran, Smith, Puth, and any other new guys since that time.You have said it about Paul. Not having a go at you here, but why don't you like him? Is it how he sang the Queen songs, or just how he sings? He isn't to everyone's taste, then again AL isn't to everyone's taste either. Have you gone to see Timberlake, Sheeran, Smith, Puth or are you basing that on videos etc? I like Timberlake quite a bit, but nope not going to buy his latest album, because I don't like it. Sheeran is ok. I think you know I really like Sam Smith. I have bounds of respect and admiration for him. Puth is very boring, not interested in his music at all. I know you adore AL. I don't have an issue with that at all, but it's how you go about things regarding him that shock me at times. You gave every reason under the sun for him not being as popular as some others, everything from payola to homophobia...things like those assumptions don't help him. Please, please think before putting certain things out there. Hoping you enjoy the upcoming shows. :-) |
| inu-liger 11.02.2018 02:12 |
Could we keep things on topic? |
| Vali 12.02.2018 10:40 |
Wasn't expeciting a new visit to my hometown, Barcelona, so I'll be there of course! but sadly will have to skip other cities, as my wife will be giving birth around mid June :-) It's funny every time I remember myself thinking: "man, this will probably be the last time you see Brian live". That was 1998, during the Another World Tour. Been lucky to see Bri & Rog 8 more times since then. Next June will be the 9th ! |
| Star* 12.02.2018 13:33 |
I could never get excited about any Queen tour based on the fact that there is only two original members left. Furthermore it is a complete rip off as the full Queen experience is not achieved here without John & Freddie. Still a fool and his/her money is easily parted. Some suckers out there! |
| Togg 12.02.2018 13:45 |
There speaks someone who never saw Classic Queen, and hasn't seen Queen + PR or AL..... ha |
| Vocal harmony 12.02.2018 14:35 |
Another o2 added. Even more people who disagree with happystar have the chance to see the band! Something worth noting, especially if your name is happystar Gerry. Queen never split up or announced their retirement from either playing or recording. Freddie during his lifetime said that if he left the band they had the ability to replace him. After he died there was still no announcement saying that was the end of Queen. Brian said he couldn't see a way of continuing, but they still didn't announce a split. They played a one off with Elton John as Queen+ and I think it was clear then that they wanted to be able to at least perform as Queen. John retired and that's fine, lots of people have retired or left bands through the years, but the two guys around which Queen grow remained, so who are you happystar to tell Brian or Roger what they should or shouldn't do. They have respectfully kept the Queen name alive while adding who they feel they could comfortably work with and would be suited to what they want to do. You happystar spent time on here before insulting the band its members and anyone who disagreed with you, and that's what you're doing again. There are old school Queen fans on here who either don't like Lambert or who have no interest in seeing him, they for the most part have posted in an adult manner their thoughts on the subject and those views have been accepted by most as being personal views. Some other long term old fans have welcomed the fact that they are still out there and have enjoyed the gigs despite the shaky start. Lambert has also brought in some new fans younger faces at the gigs as well as the old crowd. Every artist has fans who blindly follow and think everything is brilliant and no one can touch the artist in anyway. That's were you fit in, it's like an almost pre teen fandom thing. On the other side of your fence is Caroline who talks about Adam like he is untouchable. Neither of you are right and should grow up and widen your horizons. Most sensible fans love the music but can see that the artists are human and capable of being imperfect in someway, it's something you should learn to do I'm going to these gigs, like a lot of others. You're not and that's fine but you don't need to keep trolling your hate for Lambert and what the band are doing because of it you come across as an obsessive Freddie Mercury follower and not a genuine Queen fan |
| SweetCaroline 12.02.2018 14:46 |
Here’s the information for the O2 show on July 4th: link |
| Star* 12.02.2018 14:48 |
Dera dear Vocal Harmony you really are flapping your feathers here! Lets get one thing crystal before i give you your pedigree. Firstly i am 100% free to say what i want on here like everybody else, and two you do not have to read it, jog on like many others have. Three keep your beak shut because your coming across as a bully. You have slagged Freddie off many times on here, do not remember then you have a short mind my friend. I have my own views and you seem to enjoy criticising my views. I have never had any other complaints from anyone only you because you are self obsessed with my posts on here. Go away and listen to your sad Adam Lambert records because you are not as smart as you seem to think you are. Throw your money away on a cheap tour which is not 100% Queen but a plastic attempt to be Queen which it will never be again. |
| Vocal harmony 12.02.2018 16:19 |
I don't own any Adam Lambert material. You've never had complaints from anyone. . . the short memory is yours not mine. I have never "slagged" Freddie off. Don't accuse me of bullying in a post where you tell me to shut my beak or jog on, mind you you've said a lot worse in the past too. |
| Star* 12.02.2018 16:53 |
Vocal Harmony: You are just like Katie Hopkins in that you have to get your beak in and stir the pot, it is so funny. To be honest i could not give two hoots what you or anyone else says. On the AL poll 45.4 who hate AL is slowly catching up to the guys that like him at 50.8 So probably young AL fans make up the difference to make that 50.8 My opinions are free to air just like any ones are on here. Amen.. xxxxxxxxxxxx |
| Voice of Reason 2018 12.02.2018 18:49 |
Hi Guys, Can we please keep it on topic? I intended this thread for people to say what shows they are going to and ask for advice with tickets or transport etc if needs be. Thanks, Liam |
| Vocal harmony 12.02.2018 19:29 |
Yes you're right. Are you going to any shows? |
| inu-liger 13.02.2018 01:49 |
Voice of Reason 2017 wrote: Hi Guys, Can we please keep it on topic? I intended this thread for people to say what shows they are going to and ask for advice with tickets or transport etc if needs be. Thanks, LiamUnbelievable how classless and disrespectful some of the people are, eh? Especially sadder that some of them are way beyond old enough to know better, if not seniorly in some cases! |
| Togg 13.02.2018 10:11 |
2nd O2 show booked |
| Voice of Reason 2018 14.02.2018 17:38 |
Thanks for asking! Yes, I have booked for Rotterdam and Antwerp. I lived in Rotterdam for a while a long time ago so it'll be interesting to be back! I thought two days in Rotterdam, two in Antwerp and one in Amsterdam would make a good trip. I now remember 30 June is a big holiday in The Netherlands and there is hardly any accomdation available in Amsterdam! Any suggestions anyone? Are you still out there Saturn?!! Cheers. |
| inu-liger 15.02.2018 01:03 |
We should set up a post-show meet for the Rotterdam gig :) |
| The Fonz 15.02.2018 04:54 |
Auckland, Feb17. In 2 days. Missus changed her mind so I'm taking my 10-year-old. |
| runner_70 15.02.2018 05:43 |
Missus has class ;) |
| Star* 15.02.2018 17:06 |
I will never watch Queen live again, cos Freddie and John are not there and they added to the magic and full Queen experience which is long gone now. King Mercury will always reign supreme. |
| Iron Butterfly 15.02.2018 19:36 |
happystar wrote: I will never watch Queen live again, cos Freddie and John are not there and they added to the magic and full Queen experience which is long gone now. King Mercury will always reign supreme.There's less of Freddie and John being shown. Used to be Roger singing DOOL and Freddie and John were shown curing that song, but it was only twice during the last tour. Enough time to have Brian and Roger perform AL solo concerts instead. Go figure. |
| rockchic65 15.02.2018 19:42 |
Yes but on the other shows Roger sang IAKOM and they still showed the footage of Freddie, John and the band just the same, nothing different except the song. |
| Sealion 15.02.2018 19:53 |
@rockchick In Wembley they played AKOM with great visuals of the comic figures from the album cover coming to life. I really loved that, it was fun!! When was it the video with the old footage of the band? |
| runner_70 15.02.2018 20:00 |
Just been watching Rainbow 1974. Awesome. They were so good. Maylor should be forced to watch this every day maybe they would come to their senses and they figured out how painful their Westend Queen is. They were indeed dangerous. This must be the saddest decline of a giant rockband forever. The only other act that has fallen so deep equally are Bon Jovi . Awesome back then crap now. QAL is the worst thougjh |
| rockchic65 15.02.2018 20:08 |
I'm not sure, I was watching a few on YouTube and I thought they used the same footage as the Liverpool show I was at where they did DOOL. Maybe it was from a 2015 show then. |
| Sealion 15.02.2018 20:32 |
I haven’t seen that footage on AKOM in 2015 either (I seem to always get that song!) ;-) |
| rockchic65 15.02.2018 20:47 |
I just checked on YouTube, they seem to have been alternating AKOM and DOOL for the last few years, there's both from each year. I must have seen one of the DOOL one's from 2015 and mixed it up. That's what you get for watching too many vids at once. Or I'm going senile lol. |
| Sealion 15.02.2018 21:31 |
Yes, Roger was/is alternating these two. |
| Iron Butterfly 15.02.2018 21:32 |
rockchic65 wrote: Yes but on the other shows Roger sang IAKOM and they still showed the footage of Freddie, John and the band just the same, nothing different except the song.The song matters, don't you think? I do. DOOL was and is the best way to do it. I like AKOM, but I like DOOL more in the shows, and I think it's a shake it was only done twice during the last tour. I don't look at AKOM and think that's a tribute to Freddie and John during the shows. |
| Iron Butterfly 15.02.2018 21:34 |
runner_70 wrote: Just been watching Rainbow 1974. Awesome. They were so good. Maylor should be forced to watch this every day maybe they would come to their senses and they figured out how painful their Westend Queen is. They were indeed dangerous. This must be the saddest decline of a giant rockband forever. The only other act that has fallen so deep equally are Bon Jovi . Awesome back then crap now. QAL is the worst thougjhHell yeah, Rainbow is great! Such fire! My most watched Queen concert DVD. |
| inu-liger 15.02.2018 21:56 |
For fucks sake, are people ignorantly "deaf" on purpose here? |
| The Fonz 15.02.2018 22:03 |
yeah, they sure are. People - Brian/Roger couldn't give a toss if you like it or not. |
| runner_70 16.02.2018 05:43 |
They only care if their pockets are full and dont care about their old fans from the beginning anymore thats true |
| Star* 16.02.2018 11:44 |
Runner_70 Yeah Queen are about the money now and not the quality of the act anymore. I think May & Taylor know the end is near so they dont give a flying fuchsia now. |
| snifflese 17.02.2018 21:14 |
If you think that Brian and Roger don't care about the quality of the act, then you obviously haven't seen the show. There is such a neat stage set up and the light show is amazing. The 2 new reviews talk about the whole spectacle. Much care has been taken so that the show is both a visual and a vocal treat. It delivers in spades!!! There is nothing that has been overlooked and that is why it is garnering rave reviews, selling out and people can't stop talking about it!! |
| runner_70 18.02.2018 01:09 |
The show might be pretty good visually, but the first note the annoying screecher is singin are so off-putting that you forget about it. Lamebird truely sucks when it comes to Queen karaoke (which is what QAL is all about). |
| inu-liger 18.02.2018 02:15 |
Do you people genuinely enjoy living life day to day being so negative? Serious question. |
| Makka 18.02.2018 04:35 |
Going to the Perth show in March. |
| Togg 19.02.2018 10:25 |
I wouldn't worry about it Inu... these kids are just upset their mums wont buy them tickets so they have to stay in their bedrooms and sulk |
| runner_70 19.02.2018 11:35 |
You couldnt pay me enough to see this crap |
| rockchic65 19.02.2018 12:52 |
They added Portugal now as well. |
| Star* 19.02.2018 13:36 |
Why would anyone want to see half a Queen band past there sell by date with a cheap American Idol freak???? A fool and his/her money eh ! I was blessed however to see the real Queen band 5 times and fronted by Freddie they were spectacular. I certainly would not want to see such an ailing band today without the original line up. The Beatles never got back together even though Lennon was killed, Abba never got back together either when Agnetha refused to join again so why did Queen make such a big mistake to go back out there for? Roger said he hated touring but even he has done a u-turn on that one! So answer the question : Which dates are you going to? My reply is none because the spirit of Queen died with Freddie, our most beloved and important member of that group. |
| rockchic65 19.02.2018 13:46 |
Why would anyone go, the same reason most people go to a gig, because it's fun. Is it the same, of course not, but who cares, it is what it is and it's a great show. No one's forcing anyone, if it's not for you fine, no problem, but they want to still carry on so I don't see the problem with that. It's not like they dropped Freddie and replaced him, he can't come back, sad as that is. I'm sure they all find the being away from home etc hard, but Roger seems to be enjoying the gigs and since he and Adam get on great maybe that makes it easier. |
| Star* 19.02.2018 15:34 |
Well people seem pretty eager to throw there hard earned money at these shows and considering Mercury & Deacon are not present i find it quite outrageous really. I was talking to man the other day about this and i said the majority of the music scene is now crap, he replied no music is crap as it all sells! That summed it up for me there will always be someone somewhere who will buy the tickets! |
| Sealion 19.02.2018 16:51 |
Why does it bother you, what I spend my money for? I can really enjoy these shows. So I‘m OK with it. Otherwise I wouldn‘t go. But I wouldn‘t go on an on about it on this forum. And I don‘t think, that people easily spend the money. I asked a few friends, who like some Queen- songs, but aren‘t fans. They were interested in going, but when they saw the ticket-prices, they decided not to go. On QueenOnline someone wrote down, how the attendance of some other bands in the US in the same venues last year were. And if you want to take a look (I will link to it at themed of this post), many bands really struggle to sell their tickets. link |
| runner_70 19.02.2018 17:02 |
Happystar- i assume one of them really needs the cash due to bad investments. So they decided to make a uturn and reanimate the Cash cow Queen |
| runner_70 19.02.2018 17:03 |
Happystar- i assume one of them really needs the cash due to bad investments. So they decided to make a uturn and reanimate the Cash cow Queen |
| rockchic65 19.02.2018 17:24 |
link link I'm thinking probably not |
| Star* 19.02.2018 18:46 |
Sealion: Please spend your money as you please as it is none of my business but i was just so puzzled why Queen re-invented themselves for as they are not a patch on what they used to be infact they come across as desperate last saloon merchants. |
| inu-liger 19.02.2018 19:08 |
Who gives a shit what you think, Gerry? You're irrelevant in the long run anyways. |
| runner_70 19.02.2018 21:02 |
last saloon merchants is spot on. They have the right desperate customers too |
| Star* 19.02.2018 21:22 |
Inu: i do not give a toss to your irrelevant dross contributions on here either, so get back under your stone prick. |
| Star* 19.02.2018 21:23 |
Queen are not the champions anymore without king Mercury but nice to see them making complete dweeps out of themselves trying with pussy boy. ha ha |
| runner_70 19.02.2018 21:28 |
Out of curiosity I was watching how the ticket sales go. They hpyed it to the max with their presale crap - Result: Every category is widely available in COlogne. Embarrassing. SOld out in min my ass lol link |
| Star* 19.02.2018 21:41 |
Yeah hyped to make believe Lambert is a rock god when in reality he is nothing more than a west end diva with no credibility whatsoever. Time to abdicate Queen! |
| Togg 20.02.2018 10:29 |
These knuckleheads crack me up, they can't spell, and sound like little Taylor Swift fans bitching in their bedrooms to each other... Never mind girls, I'm sure mom will give you some sweets soon ha |
| runner_70 20.02.2018 19:43 |
At least we dont listen top a screeching goat failing on queen songs |
| Star* 20.02.2018 20:44 |
Yeah the ticket prices are shocking for those Queen shows, and considering your not getting the full 100% Queen experience it is a rip off big time. Half a Queen band and a guest singer reaching just over £100 a ticket is total rip off. |
| Star* 20.02.2018 20:44 |
Yeah the ticket prices are shocking for those Queen shows, and considering your not getting the full 100% Queen experience it is a rip off big time. Half a Queen band and a guest singer reaching just over £100 a ticket is total rip off. |
| Sealion 20.02.2018 21:15 |
Why should anyone expect a „100% Queen experience“, when the ticket states „Queen + Adam Lambert“? People aren‘t stupid, you know? (Apparently YOU don‘t know, since you spend your time here, trying to convince people of your opinions.) And people know, that Freddie is dead. So it can‘t be the „old Queen“. Maybe you should get that in YOUR head, so you can move on. |
| inu-liger 21.02.2018 08:27 |
Because Gerry thinks he's smarter than the average general public ^ |
| Togg 21.02.2018 10:28 |
"At least we dont listen top a screeching goat failing on queen songs" Let's just read that back slowly.... now read it again because it won't have gone in... now go get mom and see if you can find a local remedial English class, you know if you're going to insist on trying to compose clever come backs, first, make sure they are clever.... second make sure you can spell big words like 'to', third try some 'sentence structure' that actually makes sense, Goats don't screech, 'failing on' isn't actually English Apart from that .... brilliant, 5/100 for you , could try better, see me after class |
| Star* 21.02.2018 11:49 |
Inu-liger: Well i am not stupid enough to get ripped off big time, Sure the tickets may state Queen + Adam Lambert but it is not 100% Queen it is just the drummer and guitarist, no bass man no lead singer with a talent show runner up. Technochly because the four guys in Queen were equal directors of the name Queen then yeah they can still call themselves Queen because that is a business arrangement but musically it is not the original sound or harmonies. A lot of people are disrespectful to Queen history by saying "Move on Freddies gone now" Can you just imagine the outrage if you said that Lennon or Elvis fans? These young Lambert fans have no musical taste whatsoever. My money is staying right in my pocket because yeah i am smarter than most on this site! |
| Vocal harmony 21.02.2018 12:23 |
Good, if those moaning about the band and shows don't go someone who wants too can. By the way Gerry, the two people who sang live baking vocals during the Freddie years are still singing backing vocals. In fact there are now another three people who also sing BV's live, which means the backing vocal/harmony limitations that the band had in the Freddie years are a thing of the past. |
| Star* 21.02.2018 14:51 |
VC Just because May & Taylor are singing backing vocals still does not justify the ridiculous high ticket prices and please do not forget Freddie was the front man and 90% of all Queen shows, he was the one that got the audiences joining in and participating along! Freds vocals were also the ambience of any Queen gig as well. I have actually just read an interview with Brian and Roger who shockingly say they got Adam as an improvement on Freddie. can you believe that? Talk about been disrespectful to Freddie who slogged his heart out on that stage night after night and if it is true what May & Taylor said then they are a pair of assholes. |
| Vocal harmony 21.02.2018 15:47 |
I was replying in general to the point made about BV harmonies sung live. Nothing to do with lead vocalist performance. Re read the "interview with Brian and Roger" what they said was the production is superior to what they had with Freddie. Freddie slogged his heart out. Actually Roger had a far more physically demanding role than Freddie. And through the 70's it was Brian who was the only member of the band to spend the entire duration of the show on stage. Through the 80's he was still on stage more than the others, including Freddie. As far a Freddie's vocals being "the ambiance" of the shows, what about the guitar, far more instrumentation than lead vocal in the shows and Brian's guitar sound was/is just as recognizable to Queen's sound as Freddie's voice |
| runner_70 21.02.2018 16:54 |
Togg how about your German asshole |
| Star* 21.02.2018 18:39 |
VH : Sure i agree Brian was on stage all the time but Freddie had to run around the stage sing and play piano. On the wembley Dvd just look at that sweat pouring off Freddie as he is sat at the piano singing "in the lap of the gods" It is streaming off him and he had all those clothes on as well, i really felt for the man. As a front man he has to ignite the audience and keep them interested. Out of the four of the guys in Queen i would say deaky had it easy. |
| Holly2003 21.02.2018 18:47 |
Perhaps they should've taken turns at being front man to share that sweaty burden. |
| inu-liger 21.02.2018 19:45 |
inu-liger wrote: Because Gerry thinks he's smarter than the average general public ^ happystar wrote: My money is staying right in my pocket because yeah i am smarter than most on this site!Yeah, I thought so. You're an arrogant narcissistic prick, so this really is no surprise I was able to predict that coming from you. |
| inu-liger 21.02.2018 19:52 |
happystar wrote: Technochly because the four guys in Queen were equal directors of the name Queen then yeah they can still call themselves Queen because that is a business arrangement but musically it is not the original sound or harmonies. A lot of people are disrespectful to Queen history by saying "Move on Freddies gone now" Can you just imagine the outrage if you said that Lennon or Elvis fans? These young Lambert fans have no musical taste whatsoever. My money is staying right in my pocket because yeah i am smarter than most on this site!*Technically *towards Queen's history *Move on, Freddie's (good grief, this one's just as bad as those who spell his name as "Freddy") *you had said that to Lennon *because, yeah, I You sure show a lot of disrespect to the proper use of the English language, for an old man who supposedly hails from England. What an embarrassment. |
| inu-liger 21.02.2018 19:55 |
Vocal harmony wrote: And through the 70's it was Brian who was the only member of the band to spend the entire duration of the show on stage.Well, aside from the NOTW shows that had "My Melancholy Blues" in the setlist? |
| Vocal harmony 21.02.2018 21:55 |
True, those few performances must have really taken out of Freddie!!! :) |
| Togg 22.02.2018 08:42 |
"Togg how about your German asshole" I don't have a German asshole...? I'm British, try again |
| Togg 22.02.2018 08:56 |
If you two girls can't get mum to buy you tickets that's a shame, but I'm afraid you'll find the ticket prices you are so upset about are pretty much in the middle of the standard concert prices these days, Joe Bonamassa (not someone I'd expect you two Taylor Swift fans would have heard of) tickets are £200 at the lowest price, and he hardly has the same fan base that Queen have, £70-£90 for standing tickets are normal fees across the concert venues of this type, it's not the band that set the prices at that level it's the norm. I don't really understand what you think you are going to accomplish by continually saying the same thing over and over..... "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results." Runner you may have to look that up to fully understand it. But whatever floats your boat I guess, it's very ammusing watching you two beat your heads against the wall |
| Vocal harmony 22.02.2018 12:31 |
^^^^ I think it's hilarious that one of them goes on like he is some kind of fountain of wisdom about something he has never witnessed and the other has a fixation on arse holes. . . They should probably meet up I'm sure they'll find lots to delve into. . |
| Star* 22.02.2018 15:09 |
Vocal Harmony and Inu-liger are like Hinge & Bracket those two old drag queens always moaning on and picking out faults in peoples posts. Get a life you two old farts. |
| Vocal harmony 22.02.2018 16:39 |
And bring on the insults.. Back to your default setting, Nappystar. |
| runner_70 22.02.2018 17:45 |
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| Star* 22.02.2018 17:46 |
Vocal Barmony: You like starting the rows on here with your snide comments and that other little runt (inu-liger) who basically has no pedigree he only thinks he has ! Ha ha ha Carry on bitching as your good at that so fill your boots girls. |
| runner_70 22.02.2018 17:46 |
You are a British asshle then-my bad. Bonamassa is charging less than the Queen coverband. Average 100 Euro. Shouldn't have looked on scalper's sites dumbo..... |
| Voice of Reason 2018 22.02.2018 18:56 |
Hi Gang, I have been in Brussels for work for a few days. i'm just back. So, what has been going on? |
| Vocal harmony 22.02.2018 23:04 |
Voice of Reason 2018 wrote: Hi Gang, I have been in Brussels for work for a few days. i'm just back. So, what has been going on?Well Gerry has returned under the Nappystar moniker still puking the same bile over everyone who disagrees with his one track Freddie worship and hatred of Lambert. And now claiming Brian and Roger are also guilty of disagreeing with him. |
| Star* 23.02.2018 08:07 |
Well VOCAL BARMONY is such a looser because all he does on here is belittle other peoples posts, If one does not agree with him then he goes into nasty mode and starts bitching. Do yourself a favour pal if you do not like it, keep your beak out and move on! Your posts on here do not interest me as you just moan and sniff out logic to peoples post asking for evidence or justification and to be honest you think you are the crown prosecution on this site which you are not. Let others read what they want and when they want and just because you do not like it does not give you the right to bully on this site with your disgusting snide comments. You insulted me by saying i was an "old man" but in the same sentence you have also insulted Brian & Roger who are much older than me! You are a prat but get over it. |
| Togg 23.02.2018 08:44 |
Ha, well I bet Brian and Roger are both going really miss your two ticket sales... ha ha If we rate your 'arguments' if we can call them that, on a scale of 'Reasoned well thought out intellectual debate, on one hand, and gibbons flinging poo on the other' I'm afraid girls the points you so elequenty ha.... try to make scores rather high on the side of gibbons flinging poo.... This has been fun, but it's time for school for you two, it's like shooting fish in a barrel way too easy, come back when you can actually hold a sensible debate, because at the moment it's just too easy to trip you two over your own shoe laces. |
| inu-liger 23.02.2018 23:02 |
I’m going to be in the UK this June. Would you like to meet up, Gerry? |
| Vocal harmony 24.02.2018 00:03 |
happystar wrote: Well VOCAL BARMONY is such a looser because. . . . . . You insulted me by saying i was an "old man" but in the same sentence you have also insulted Brian & Roger who are much older than me! You are a prat but get over it.You sure about that? I didn't say that. Find it and quote it in your reply. The prat appears to be you just talking out of your poop shoot |
| Star* 24.02.2018 07:42 |
VOCAL BARMONY : I do not have to justify myself to you or anybody else on here and knowing you the offending post has probably been removed. I am not even going to waste my time trying to find it, as i have other things in my life to attend too. INU-ARSE LICKER: Why on earth would i want to meet you in the Uk in June for? I thought you were a non UK groupie just by your posts, as you come across pretty American and narrow minded! Correct me if i am wrong dearest! |
| inu-liger 24.02.2018 07:54 |
Actually, I'm Canadian. And I'm in the UK for a few days' personal holiday at that time coming up, before I take off to The Netherlands and Hong Kong. Are you afraid to meet a Queenzoner in person? A few have met me over the years, between places like Vancouver, Atlanta, London and Torquay. I think they can vouch that contrary to how my posts look here, I carry much less bite in person :) Drinks are on me if you decide to take up my invite. |
| runner_70 24.02.2018 11:51 |
Maybe I can come too. COuld be some fun talking with a Glambert hahaha |
| Star* 24.02.2018 12:07 |
INU_ No i think i would give that a miss, cos your getting too nice to me wanting to buy drinks and i am not that easy lead. You are probably more in support of Lambert if you live in Canada as he lives more closer to you than us here in the UK. Maybe my posts look more tangy than i actually are in person also. Things do get quite heated on here at times and frustration and annoyance channels through my finger tips to my keypad and yes some spelling mistakes do occur as i do rush a lot of thought through my keypad. |
| runner_70 24.02.2018 12:49 |
Happy we should just beat the shit out off inu - how about that lol |
| Star* 24.02.2018 15:25 |
Runner_70 We cant do that cos Trump wants everyone to carry guns now! The world is going insane! |
| runner_70 24.02.2018 15:45 |
But I think they guy is canadian. No problem then lol |
| Togg 26.02.2018 11:12 |
runner_70 "Happy we should just beat the shit out off inu - how about that lol " That actually consitutes a direct threat to someone, he has the right to report that to the authorities and trace you.... good going, you are not only a knucklehead you are a knucklehead heading to court... |
| Star* 26.02.2018 11:26 |
Togg: calm down he was only horsing around as do many on here! lol |
| Togg 26.02.2018 14:04 |
See it doesn't work like that, you two kids have to take ownership for what you write on the internet, so I'm afraid the horse has bolted on that one... |
| Vocal harmony 26.02.2018 14:42 |
Inu-liger and Togg I'm with you both on this. runner_70 was making a direct threat and also invited someone to participate. Threatening and inciting violence. Gerry tries to use intimidation in his arguments and on several occasions has typed things attributed to certain people that they haven't said, again the question of legality is a legitimate one. Having publicly miss quoted and often followed up with disparaging remarks. |
| Star* 26.02.2018 16:07 |
VH Excuse me i never intimidate in my posts but i only speak as i feel, as i am a natural person of expression. You are not exactly whiter than white yourself are you? People in glass houses Vocal Barmony !! |
| Vocal harmony 26.02.2018 17:13 |
I think you've just tripped yourself up |
| inu-liger 26.02.2018 17:15 |
I have reported the threats to the admin, just so you know |
| runner_70 26.02.2018 19:39 |
you have overseen the lol you knobheads. myohmy what is wrong with you glamberts I really wonder. Inu was joking about a drink and that was my joke back. Holy cow learn some humor. You are really lame |
| Star* 26.02.2018 19:40 |
Togg: i have nothing to do what Runner_70 wrote on here, we all know he is a lose cannon at times! By the way i am not a kid! |
| runner_70 26.02.2018 19:41 |
togg and inu you are real cry babies. See under WIki what "lol" means. my gosh |
| runner_70 26.02.2018 19:49 |
Yeah, I thought so. You're an arrogant narcissistic prick, so this really is no surprise I was able to predict that coming from you. Hey runner_70, was your birth certificate an apology letter from the condom factory? With a lack of sense of humour like that, it's a real wonder your parents let you live out on your own. Why didn't they just put you in a group home? Have I been a cry baby on inu-loosers insults? Not quite. I missed the "lol" behind the insults as well. I might want to report this to "the authotities" as well.... |
| Star* 26.02.2018 19:52 |
yes inu-liger insulted me by calling me an "arrogant prick" si i may also want to report that as well ! |
| runner_70 26.02.2018 20:00 |
Maybe we should run to our mum first and cry there. No wonder Glamberts have no humour as they have to endure Lamebird all the time. YOu must lose it completely then I guess |
| runner_70 26.02.2018 20:02 |
Now I understand why Inu did not get the "LOL" - he thinks that "LOL" means "Lambert online" (as someone said on FB ). Lambert online = LOL. Priceless ;) |
| Star* 26.02.2018 20:17 |
Runner: i like that one LOL = Lamebird on line! classic! |
| runner_70 26.02.2018 20:28 |
so very fitting as he is such a joke |
| inu-liger 26.02.2018 21:08 |
Actually, runner, I wasn’t joking about the drink offer. I was genuinely extending an olive branch there. A concept you apparently wouldn’t understand. |
| inu-liger 26.02.2018 21:10 |
And if I don’t see an apology for those threats, I will be contacting Scotland Yard tomorrow. This is not a joke. |
| Vocal harmony 26.02.2018 21:59 |
happystar wrote: Togg: i have nothing to do what Runner_70 wrote on here, we all know he is a lose cannon at times! By the way i am not a kid!Nice U turn. You've quoted and agreed with and answers runner_70's posts all the way through. |
| Star* 26.02.2018 22:11 |
I can reply to who i want on here, i do not have to have your permission, plus that do not make me the guilty party You are getting like Trump every second! |
| runner_70 26.02.2018 22:39 |
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| runner_70 26.02.2018 22:40 |
Alright inu. Sorry for not understanding the joke then *sigh*. Where is your apology for your insults? |
| inu-liger 26.02.2018 23:19 |
Not good enough. You did not address the threats you directed at me. I’m going to give you one more chance, because I am not fucking around with this, I do NOT appreciate having my personal safety threatened. |
| inu-liger 26.02.2018 23:42 |
AND believe me, it would not be difficult for the police to find out who you are if it has to come to that. All they need to do is get the IP logs from Richard Orchard who owns the site, and that won’t be hard since he lives in London too. This will not be the first time police will be contacted over someone here, because Gregsynth also had a stalker issue that was recently dealt with here on QZ. I really don’t want to pursue this, but you leave me no choice if you don’t make the right choice. |
| runner_70 27.02.2018 05:28 |
My gosh inu you really should take a chill pill my friend. You Made your joke with meeting happy after you insulted him badly and i Made the joke that we could beat the shit out of you while we have our drinks. Was a joke you did not get it obviously. Not meant as s threat my son. So if you understood it as a threat i am sorry. Hence there was lol behind my posting. I am still waiting for your apology for your namecalling. That was obviously not meant as a joke I assume . |
| Togg 27.02.2018 09:55 |
Runner / Happy/Gerry whoever the hell you are You two need to be much more aware of what you write online, whilst I'm sure it's all fun chuckling away in your bedrooms about this in todays world people have to act responsibly online or face the consequences, you came here deliberately trying to provoke, read your own words back, Happy if your not kids then you sure act like them... repeatedly moaning on and on with no point or reason, can you honestly see any adult writing the type jibberish you spout? So you don't like what Queen are doing now.... I think you've made your point, nobody is forcing you to go see them or listen, but others all over the world seem to be happy to see there favorite band perform again, why not just respect that others (including the band) have a different view, and at the end of the day they the band, are the ONLY ones that matter or can have any comment on what Queen should or shouldn't be. repeating you don't like it over and over is basically just what a little teenage girl does when they get too much homework.... I'm more than happy to debate, but you don't do that, you just come here attempting to provoke, well see this is where it leads, I'm not going to stand by a watch online bullying of direct threats, I WILL report them and I know exactly who to report it to, and how to do it, so I suggest you two slip back into your own little worlds again for a while before you get into further bother. Either come here with genuine discussion debate and informative contributions or bugger off before you hear a knock at the door |
| runner_70 27.02.2018 10:46 |
In other words everyone disagreeing with your view on the annoying Lamebird is supposed to shut up. And you must sit in the glasshouse as you are no stranger to insulting others disagreeeing with you. Better to be a bit harsh then being harsh as well and when the backlash arrives playing the innocence Card. And your comment regarding Teenage Girls: Thats exactly what you lot are doing here. Raving about the goat on and on. So why shouldnt we have the right to ramble about this guy as well? Sounds not quite logic reading the drivel of SweetCaroline about Lamebird being the best Invention since sliced bread. Learn to accept that the majority of real Queen fans and Freddie fans find it absolutely disgusting what Roger and Brian do with their band which was "our" band before. YOu will surely reply "Look at the sold out Shows" - the majority are casuals who know the hits. The purists stay home and find it cringeworthy. For me Brian and ROger have lost most of their credibilty over the years. It was clear to see who was the leader of the band even if he always denied it. Those two are riding on the coattail of their glorious past pretending their are still a Major force in Music while in reality they stopped being creative and are only in it for the $$$. And the most disgusting Thing lately is the usage of likes like "Daily mirror" - tabloids that haunted Freddie til the end. Now they post Reviews all the time. I havent read ONE single posting regarding this that is justifying this abysmal. Proof enough that Brian and Roger surely have lost all their respect from their own past. Sad but true, |
| Vocal harmony 27.02.2018 10:47 |
Intelligent and reasonable view Togg |
| Star* 27.02.2018 11:37 |
Togg: Sorry if you do not like reading my posts but firstly i do not make threats to anyone and two, i do give good debate it is just you with Inu-Liger and Vocal Harmony that cannot see any debate without slagging or belittling my posts, so the best thing to do here is jog on and mind your own business then we will have less rows on here as yous lot cause all the rows in the first place so stop pointing the fucking finger at me because your out of order pal. Do one as ive had enough of all the bickering on here, what my views are have fuck all to do with you or anyone else on here. Now anymore accusing me and i will be the one reporting to the head guy on this site. |
| runner_70 27.02.2018 11:46 |
As I said - the Glamberts run Amok if anyone dares to ciriticize their Idol. They are not QUeen fans. It will be soon over though. As over at Queenonline, where the Paul ROdgers Fans (who were not so stubborn) left the house when QPR was over, the Lamebird Freaks will vanish once the collaboration is over. Too bad we wont get their reaction when the goat will lose his recording contract and will Play in front of 12 drunk grandmas on a cruise ship to Jamaika singing We Are The Champions billed as "Ex Queen Singer". Would be fun to read what SweetCaroline/CNB would be writing then. In her mind the guy is only unsuccessful because he is gay which is absolutely laughable. His solocareer tanked becuase noone gives a damn about him once the AI - fame wore off. |
| Vocal harmony 27.02.2018 14:16 |
Let me gets this right. Happystar (Gerry) has a view which he repeats and repeats. No one is allowed to comment on that view if their view is different in any way and if it is we can "jog on" Yet you, Gerry, are the one who bleats on about certain people not being willing to accept different opinions. As Togg said this is a forum were things are discussed and there are lots of differing opinions about all the subjects. I have agreed nd disagreed with everyone on here at different times, but there are only two people that repeatedly can't accept a different opinion or view and think that's childish comeback is the answer and makes them appear to have a broad or intelligent view. |
| Star* 27.02.2018 14:37 |
Vocal Harmony: i am entitled to defend my beliefs and i do let others have there opinion, some posts i ignore because some characters on here are quite canny actually and i know who will be more defiant towards my posts, You! You are also the one that will not let me have my say when i need too, you always have to get your beak into the matter and spout out your day in court towards me. i know you do not like me and i do not really like you so lets avoid each other, your coming across like an immature teenager so please grow up and stop been a twat. |
| runner_70 27.02.2018 14:39 |
Still every glambert seems to avoid a statement regarding the posting of tabloid links on FB and QOL. Just saying. I find it disrespectful and apalling that they use tabloids they once despiced for promotion. I will post a New topic and looking forward to some glambert comments. I think there wont be any. So hope this meets your expectations for a discussion...... |
| runner_70 27.02.2018 14:39 |
Still every glambert seems to avoid a statement regarding the posting of tabloid links on FB and QOL. Just saying. I find it disrespectful and apalling that they use tabloids they once despiced for promotion. I will post a New topic and looking forward to some glambert comments. I think there wont be any. So hope this meets your expectations for a discussion...... |
| Star* 27.02.2018 15:10 |
I think you are very humorous and i enjoy reading your posts matey. There is no one on here who is quick witted like you and your posts are very spot on and you do speak the truth about Queen & Lamebird! At least we do not sit back and take the crap hype of the ailing Queen these days, cos we know Queen have been better. |
| inu-liger 27.02.2018 15:16 |
runner_70 wrote: You Made your joke with meeting happy after you insulted him badlyOnce again: That was not a joke. I am legitimately coming to the UK this June, so I thought I’d offer a meet up. and i Made the joke that we could beat the shit out of you while we have our drinks.To consider that I have to deal with such similar threats from aggressive homeless folk and shoplifters that we regularly encounter at my workplace, I don’t find that very funny at all. |
| runner_70 27.02.2018 15:39 |
So you first insult happy and then you offer him a drink. Very strange i think. And i am neither homeless nor a shoplifter...just sayin.... |
| Star* 27.02.2018 16:48 |
Runner_70 You are right Inu-liger insults me first then offers me a drink, hey are they all like that in Canada or is it how Inu treats the English then? If he works with vulnerable people then treating folk in that way is plain ignorant and disgusting. |
| inu-liger 27.02.2018 18:08 |
@happystar I don't work with vulnerable people. It just so happens they frequent our store too often, many times to either panhandle or steal from us, and it has been a growing problem over the past few years that quite frankly we are very frustrated with. And perhaps you should examine the way you negatively treat other people here first before you go making unfounded assumptions like that. Ever stop to deeply ponder why people give you so much flak? @runner_70: I never said you were either of those things. Once again, don't make assumptions. |
| Vocal harmony 27.02.2018 18:49 |
happystar wrote: Vocal Harmony: i am entitled to defend my beliefs and i do let others have there opinion, some posts i ignore because some characters on here are quite canny actually and i know who will be more defiant towards my posts, You! You are also the one that will not let me have my say when i need too, you always have to get your beak into the matter and spout out your day in court towards me. i know you do not like me and i do not really like you so lets avoid each other, your coming across like an immature teenager so please grow up and stop been a twat. |
| Vocal harmony 27.02.2018 18:51 |
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| Star* 27.02.2018 19:00 |
Inu-liger: Most on here do NOT give me any grief at all except yourself and Vocal Harmony! I have had a topic going on the other forums and everyone has been great telling me about there experiences and it is great to chat with a friendly gang of Queen fans and i would be friendly to you if you treated me better, i do not bite but i do if folk like VH keep on belittling my comments or trying to be a clever dick by asking for proof in what i have said. This is only a place to chat and make new Queen friends so lets keep it like that and "stop all the fighting", (sorry for that pun) lol Lets have a clean slate and if i have upset you then i apologise sincerely. You do not know me i understand, and i do not know you, but we can have our own views without clashing. Everyone else on here has no problem with me, because they know how passionate i am about original Queen 1971 - 1991. |
| inu-liger 27.02.2018 19:14 |
happystar wrote: Lets have a clean slate and if i have upset you then i apologise sincerely. You do not know me i understand, and i do not know you, but we can have our own views without clashing. Everyone else on here has no problem with me, because they know how passionate i am about original Queen 1971 - 1991.That's why I made my offer in the first place! ...To see if we could work out our differences in person and indeed create a clean slate. This actually would not be first time I've befriended someone on QZ that I didn't get along with at first, believe it or not. I'm tired of all the negativity that's been practically become an unwelcome running theme between people here on this website for the past 15-20 years. The decision is up to you, if you don't choose to take it up then it is what it is. Nobody can say I didn't try to make an effort. |
| Star* 27.02.2018 19:17 |
Well that is a nice gesture so clean slate it is then, thank you. I very much doubt VH will be as decent as you but time will tell. |
| Sealion 27.02.2018 19:23 |
@happystar Maybe you should apply your „friendly chatter“ to this QAL-section as well? I noticed, that you discuss things differently, when it‘s about Queen, not QAL. So I suggest you, to stay in the Queen-sections of this forum. There is no sense in your hating on the ongoing collaboration. It‘s Brian and Roger‘s decision to go on with AL. Accept that. And since you don‘t like it (and you‘ve told that at length), just ignore it. You won‘t stop it and neither of us. So let people, who can enjoy it, discuss it without you pissing on everything. |
| Star* 27.02.2018 19:30 |
Sealion: It would be very interesting to read other comments on here from the quiet ones who also dislike AL with Queen as it will make interesting reading then i wont get it in the neck. Many are just too afraid to voice there opinions, but there is always two sides to a coin. If there is anything to add to a discussion then i will join in, because everything in life cannot be positive, if it was then life would not be real! |
| Sealion 27.02.2018 19:43 |
And what should these quiet members, who also dislike Adam, post in this section? I don’t think, they are „afraid“. They are simply not interested in it. |
| Star* 27.02.2018 19:51 |
Well i come across a lot of Queen fans mainly europeans on FB who like and dislike AL. There is even certain Queen web sites that ban any mention of your Adam. One lady whos group i am in told me " we need to keep this web site purely Freddie & Queen. |
| Sealion 27.02.2018 20:06 |
Sure, you come across such groups, why not? But why do you want them to post here? And no, Adam‘s not mine - wrong shore ;-) . I just came to enjoy QAL. |
| Togg 28.02.2018 10:08 |
I have no problem with your opinion of Adam, or what Queen do, you don't see me posting endless threads about Adam do you? I've been a fan since 75 and seen them in every format they have had, I like the music and frankly I have no issue who they play with or who sings the songs so long as I get a chance to see Brian and Roger playing, the simple fact is they have been playing without Freddie now longer that they were with him, and they've played to millions of people around the world, so your comments about it not being to Queen fans of old is nonsense that certainly hasn't been my experience attending gigs since 1991 without Freddie. I still go to see The Stones The Who Deep Purple all of which have new members and it doesn't make a difference to the enjoyment of the show. I enjoy hearing the songs done in different ways, I'm a musician so I enjoy learning how they create the sound, you don't see me posting multiple threads about Adam or Freddie or anything, so it has NOTHING to do with not agreeing with your opinions, but your posts are futile, you are not going to change what they are doing or change anybodies view here so why bother unless all you wish to do is create a disturbance which is where I DO have a problem, you can have whatever opinion you like, but why voice it a 1000 times....? it's futile, they are not listening and neither is anyone here, it's two of you repeatedly bleating the same shit out, we call that SPAM these days.... At the risk of repeating myself, I don't give to hoots what you think about then now, but threatening or insulting folk is not acceptable, so be careful what you start you may not like how it finishes |
| Star* 28.02.2018 10:43 |
Its such a shame you accept an ailing band getting weaker and weaker before it comes to a stop, because Queen (Brian & Roger) still pretend they are the rock gods they were with Freddie & John back in the 70s & 80s. but the truth of the matter is since Freddie died and John rightly f*cked off, Queen are crap. Queen post 1991 has not set the charts on fire anymore, and they are not accepted as the greatest rock n roll tour de force that they were with Freddie when he blew everyone away at Live Aid back in 1985. Sure Bri & Rog can play with who they want and when they want, but it is a crying shame to see they have dropped there very high standards now to be playing with a mixed up kid from a reality show, have things really gone that pathetic? Years to come i hope those two regret what they have done embarrassing the lifelong fans who were with them right from the very start. What happened to Queen, they used to be such a classy act, always taking there time on projects and albums, but then they did have Freddie around and he always used to keep Brian & Roger in line, something that is painfully missing around Queen today. Brian thinks he is head boy these days and what he wants he gets, |
| rockchic65 28.02.2018 11:09 |
Happystar Just out of curiosity did you like the QPR collaboration. I think the facts are obvious that they aren't getting weaker at all, people are loving them and they in turn are having an absolute blast. I doubt they're interested in setting the charts on fire at this point or even bothered about trying to replicate the status they had with Freddie, it's just about being out there and enjoying what they do. It's never going to please everyone but enough are loving it to make it viable. The part I don't get is the "mixed up kid from a reality show". Do you seriously think Brian & Roger would just pick some random from a talent contest who couldn't really sing or had no idea what they were doing?. And I mean for a proper tour, not just a random one off song here and there. He'd been singing onstage since age 10, professionally since 19 and had toured with theater productions, been in a band, done work as a session singer for studio demo's etc. It was obvious to everyone, viewers and the show execs he wasn't your usual talent show contestant. Added to that his work ethic and the fact he's so perfectionist that he gets involved in every aspect of anything he does and has his own ideas on things which he's not easily swayed from, he was never going to be someone who just stood there and karaoke'd the songs. That's probably why this works so well. Also from the bit about Freddie keeping them in line I'm assuming you think it's all Brian's idea and Roger is just going along with it? |
| Vocal harmony 28.02.2018 12:55 |
I don't understand happystar's mixed up kid reference either. Lambert is the same age now that Freddie was during Queen's most successful period. |
| Star* 28.02.2018 13:02 |
Well there you go, if Lamebird is around Freddie's age now then he has not achieved half of what Freddie had during that age. Mercury was flying high, with Queen and had top 5 singles and albums all over the globe. Lamebird is just a touring gimmick, and when you think he has had nine years to record with Queen which will never happen now. May & Taylor know that by recording with Lamebird there sales will tumble and flop big time. Poor sales for The Cosmos Rock have made the last two Queenies very nervy! |
| rockchic65 28.02.2018 13:24 |
Your comment about The Cosmos Rocks hits the nail on the head - Brian said in interview that they got the impression people only want to hear Freddie on recorded material with them. Added to that the music industry has changed so much, albums don't make much money anymore, it's the touring off the back of them that generates income. Being realistic, would it be worth spending ages in a studio, writing and recording a bunch of songs that may or may not be well received (it's a gamble), when they are able to still tour at the level they do without new material. Would the record company/promoters, whoever, even put money up for that? Adam's a victim of the same problem in his solo career IMO. If you wanted an album you saved up and bought it and even if it didn't grab you straight away, you'd paid for it so you would keep playing it to get your money's worth. Over time familiarity makes things seem better than you initially thought. Now you can go on spotify etc and listen to anything and they worked out the average time someone listens to a new song before skipping is 5 seconds!! Hardly giving it a chance is it. Added to that the songs he or his label used as singles were not his best by a long shot but most people will never have heard of his other stuff if it wasn't played on radio. That said I don't see what Adam's solo career really has to do with the Q+AL stuff. |
| Star* 28.02.2018 13:43 |
If Q & AL are so popular then an album would have emerged i am sure of that, but it has not up to now, and you say it may have been a gamble well i will agree with that answer, If Lamebird was as good as you seem to think he is then why did he only come second in American Idol? Been a performer since he was ten years old then he let himself down then, right? I honestly treat the collaboration as a gimmick, and you cannot take a band 100% serious anymore when they have been hypocritical of there own comments a few years before Lamebird came to light. May & Taylor plus Elton were against talent shows and said they were killing the industry off big time, and then what did they do? They appeared on Xfactor with Paul Rodgers! Next few years Paul quit Queen and the week after Adam was found. So i see this as a plan from Brian May, he knows Adam has a young fan base and that means £££££££££££ so as coy as Brian is, he decides to offer Lamebird the job of singing Queens material and Lamebird accepts, and his career has taken off. Without that offer Lamebird would not be as famous as he is now. Brian gave him that break. |
| rockchic65 28.02.2018 14:14 |
In any contest, even sport, it comes down to two people or teams and only one can win. Doesn't mean the other person is rubbish. Especially when the decision is based on public vote, it then becomes a popularity contest. Adam's quite a divisive person as evidenced here and he was never going to appeal to cookie cutter american types. The other guy (Kris) was religious, your typical wholesome american guy next door. After the third contestant got voted off, also christian church goer etc my theory is some of his votes transferred to Kris. There was also talk of some cheating with the phones by AT&T who apparently gave out phones in Kris's home town and showed people how to send multiple txt's. Doesn't really matter, Adam only went on the show for exposure, not to win a title per se so he got what he wanted anyway. He'd already been offered an international recording contract before the finale, Kris only got a local one even after winning. Not taking away from him, he is talented and plays instruments but his voice is limited in range and tone and he's an understated type of performer. I would say that answers the question of why they went back on their dislike of talent shows as well. He really shouldn't have had to resort to that to get anywhere and it was a last resort thing on his part. It was the first time Led Zep allowed one of their songs to be used and even Slash, who made no secret what he thought of those shows actually asked to be a mentor based on seeing (a couple of standouts). As to the popularity thing, I don't buy that, yeah Adam is extremely loved by his fans but there aren't enough of them to translate into full arena's, his own tours are in smaller venues. When they met and showed interest in teaming up to do something (2009) it took another two years to do the EMA thing and then they only did those one of shows in 2012. Adam wanted to do his solo stuff first and never even thought of it as a permanent thing, just a couple of appearances here and there. It just snowballed and I'm sure he loves getting to tour arena's playing to large audiences but he still want's to carry on with his solo stuff. |
| Star* 28.02.2018 15:39 |
Rockchic: You are a glambert fan and i understand that you love him and his music, but one day Queen are going to disband because Brian is not in good health and he is in his 70s, so when that day comes i would say Lamberts career is on the slide most certainly. He will not last without Queen making him seem more dynamic than he really is. Freddie had all kinds of tricks to show the public how talented he was. His pianist skills were mind blowing, as was he moves on stage along with that big voice he had and the falsetto range in his voice which was stunning on tracks like "Soul Brother" side B to "Under Pressure". |
| Sealion 28.02.2018 15:56 |
As great as Freddie was: He was never a successful solo-artist. It was only the four members of Queen together, who were great and successful. |
| rockchic65 28.02.2018 16:13 |
Agreed Sealion, none of them had the solo success they had as a group for some reason. Maybe it was the distinctive Queen sound that was missing in their solo projects. Happystar I'm actually a Queen fan who only heard of Adam through seeing vids on YouTube with Queen. I went back and watched his Idol stuff etc later because, to me at least he has that thing that stands out, whatever you want to call it, charisma, it factor? I've no idea what will happen after the Queen thing ends, I do think the thing going against Adam as a solo artist is his choice of direction music wise. He was clearly drawn to pop and IMO was too old to be the next bieber etc. I personally think he'd do better showing his actual voice rather than the over processed stuff that passes for music these days. It's great if you're not that good a singer but his edge is his vocal theatrics, and people do love them, but not much chance to show that on a commercial pop record. I agree about Freddie, he had one of the most unique voices I've ever heard and his falsetto was stunning, especially because of his gorgeous lower register. |
| Togg 01.03.2018 10:43 |
"the truth of the matter is since Freddie died and John rightly f*cked off, Queen are crap". Yet here you are on a Queen forum posting EVERYDAY... contributing nothing in the Serious or General section, You have nothing to contribute when it comes to discussions about the band during the time you say they were great, only deciding to whinge on here each day, if they are so crap why given it's 27 years after Freddie died are you here each day? You seem VERY interested in them in there current form. It could be argued that you are actually helping to promote them and keep them current.... |
| Star* 01.03.2018 12:12 |
Togg: Look at my other Forum page on here,"Where you ever mocked at school for liking Queen"? i have had lots of positive comment because of that! You may say i come on here and spout off about post Queen but that is debate, but you do not see as such. Sorry to tell you but everything in life is not nicey nicey there is always two sides to a coin, and if i find something obscene like Queen shacking up to the weird Lamebird then i will say so as it is my satiable right to air my views. Can you imaging the outcry if Robert Plant was replaced for Led Zep there would be many many miserable people who would not like that. I am not one of the sheep who is lead blind because Brian May says Lambert is the gift from god, what utter rubbish and hype. It is about time Mr May gave Freddie more respect and praise him for his amazing presence that he gave Queen and not to mention that incredible vocal rang that he had. |
| Togg 01.03.2018 14:05 |
There you go again waving the flag for Q+AL, like they say no publicity is bad publicity, I see you're keeping the post count on the Q+AL thread up nice and high ha Robert Plant probably wouldn't give two hoots, as far as he's concerned Led Zep is in the past, but as a point of correction here, Freddie wasn't replaced, he died.... Led Zep 'replaced' Bonzo after he died, The Who 'replaced' Moon, and Entwistle The Stones 'replaced' Jones and Wyman, Genesis carried on without Gabriel and Hackett, it's just a band.... not the Pope.... oh wait he gets replaced when he dies, Why can't a band continue after someone leaves The Eagles have just replaced Fry.... there's too many to mention here, literally everybody gets replaced if they leave, the ONLY reason the Beatles didn't replace someone was because they were all fed up with the band, but in reality they replaced Best and Sutcliff as well.... Had McCartney walked out on the Beatles and Lennon, Ringo and Harrison wanted to go on they would have found another Bass player, everybody does. Seriously get over it, he died 27 years ago, time to move on, surely if nothing else Brian and Roger are bringing thousands of new Queen fans to the fold that will buy and listen to Freddie as a result, one would imagine Fred would have been pretty happy with that, 27 years after his death his music is alive and well and bringing in new fans daily |
| Vocal harmony 01.03.2018 15:06 |
^^^ these are the simple facts of the situation. . But it's also something that has been explained over and over again, in the past. Accepting applications he present means you can move forward. There are those who never will. The list of bands that have undergone lineup changes is huge, those who haven't is much smaller. The point that happystar seems to miss is that the band and those people buying tickets are really enjoying the shows. Some of those people , like me saw the band with Freddie some weren't that lucky. However that in no way means we can't enjoy them as a live band now. Freddie himself said that if he ever left they would have the ability to replace him and carry on. I don't think ( though I'm not saying this is fact) he expected Queen to stop being Queen when he was no longer there. The band as they are now are as successful as a live band as they ever were. Surely any genuine Queen fans would see past liking or not liking Lambert to understand that what is happening is that they are carrying the banner that was dropped ( through no ones fault) in 1986. |
| Star* 01.03.2018 16:15 |
I do not like the comment "move on it was 27 years ago since Freddie died" yeah i know that but my point is no one is worthy taking Freddies mic to carry on Queen. Queen can easily remain popular even if they had spit up because legendary bands are thought of in the very highest regards, just like Abba, The Beatles, Hendrix...... The thing with Queen + AL is the whole operation has become very very commercial, because when Queen were Queen i never saw advertising the concerts on the hyper high level that they do it now to flog the tickets. Mind you i guess they never had too back then as Queen sold out in minutes, and yeah i know they still sell out fast now but they use so much publicity to get them sold. Yeah lots of bands have had replacement band members but they were not extraordinary lead singers like Freddie was. He was different to the rest, he was the bands most recognisable band member and the most important one by miles. The bands ambience and musical direction was very Freddie. To me other bands were just bands, but Queen had the most special front man ever and how can one move on and forget him, its impossible because he was just so damn good and magnetic to watch. |
| runner_70 01.03.2018 16:38 |
You are spot on as usual happy. This drivel like "other bands had replacements as well" is getting so old. Can you really compare Keith Moon or Entwhistle from the Who with Freddie, who was the focus of the band Queen? Even if iconic frontmen were replaced, they either were replaced by another icon or at east did they try to be creative. I dont know any other band , whose iconic frontman was replaced by a talentshow guy and endless greatest Hits tours followed. This is selling out and making money only out of your glorious past. And to justify this circus act they hype it up and use Freddie in EVERY interview that they give , that he "would have loved it": What a piece of BS! AC/DC replaced Bon Scott, who was an icon too (not in Freddie's league though as Angus was and is the main man in DC), was replaced by Brian Johnson, but they released thei biggest album bBack in Black before they went on tour. Pink FLoyd let Waters go and Gilmour took the vocals only by himself. SOme frontmen can NEVER be replaced: Robert Plant, Mick Jagger, Bono. Can you really imagine a "Stones plus Adam Lambert" or a "U2 plus Adam Lambert" - you have to laugh when you think about it. Noone ever replaced SUCH an icon but the definition of an icon is replaced by a talentshow muppet half their age, with no rock music background or even a career? Thats just plain silly and disrespectful to their past. Brian and Roger have become big hippocrites nowhaving lost everything they once stood for. I always had the feeling that Brian May envied Freddie for being recognized as the Main focus of QUeen instead of Brians Guitar licks. There is evidence in past interviews where he comes across as bitter. I think Freddie and Brian were never the best of friends. Freddies closest friend in the band was John and he did thertight thing to avoid this awful awful flogging of a dead horse. |
| Star* 01.03.2018 16:49 |
Runner70: Great post and spot on as usual. Great pity many other people on here don't use there brains what is happening under there noses. i was always suspicious of Brian been jealous of Freddie because he never praised his singing abilities to the press like he does now about Lamebird. Brian now thinks Queen is HIS band and Roger just wants to play drums with Tiger his son. He uses the weapon of putting Freddies face on the screen to make believe he misses him, but if that was the case he would speak out more about Freddies great qualities. It is very interesting analysing what Mr May is really up too, because we do know he has told lots of lies to get the money in. That album Forever Queen that was released back in 2014 (dont quote me on date) was hyped by Brian & Roger saying it had lots of new tracks on and new Queen song versions, one new track appeared "Let me in your heart again" and the new versions of Queen songs appeared as edits! Queen fans still getting ripped off big time. |
| runner_70 01.03.2018 18:54 |
LMIYH again was so amazing - but the rest of the album such a ripoff. Plain proof that they just want the money. And I still assume that one of them (or even both) need the money badly. We all assume that they are fed up with $$ but there are lots of BIG rockstars or sportsmen who have invested badly. Maybe thats one of the reasons too to give up their own credibility and just sell out. YOU never know. These "worth lists" are pointless and not proof. |
| snifflese 02.03.2018 01:59 |
I think they are beyond wealthy and if you don't, you don't know much. They are doing all these things for the love of their music. If you think otherwise, you really don't understand the spirit of Queen, which lives on for many more new fans. You can have your negative opinions, but why inflict them on people who would like to positively discuss QAL? I just don't get why someone will crap all over something just for the spite of it! |
| runner_70 02.03.2018 05:51 |
So you said it yourself. You just want to "discuss" with lamebert sheep. Whats the point if a discussion then???? |
| runner_70 02.03.2018 05:53 |
Sniff you obviously have seen Brians bank statements have you? |
| runner_70 02.03.2018 06:13 |
Funny reading "You don't understand the spirit of Queen" from a delusional Glambert. Maybe you have no clue about Queen whatsoever when you dont even realize that Maylor are sad hippocrites when they post links to tabloids that haunted Freddie in his last days. Under which rock are you living??? Is sweet Caroline and snifflese one and the same person??? I think so... |
| Togg 02.03.2018 08:59 |
Well I think we can just leave the two of you to moan daily on here about it, seems like the band are doing fine, sales of Queen albums and tickets are doing fine and and the World keeps turning despite you two not being able to move on 27 years later... Queen were always one of the most commercially aware bands out there, promoting their tours and albums was highly orchestrated, we didn't have the internet but we had massive advertising campaigns in the music press, far more then most other bands, much more promotional work than others like Led Zep or Stones or The Who, so commercially they were right up there. Your constant repeating of the same stuff is completely futile, the band don't care what you think and it certainly won't change anything so much like King Canute screaming at the tide isn't going to stop it coming in... so good luck with that |
| Star* 02.03.2018 09:17 |
Togg: Have to disagree with you about Queen been one of the most commercially aware bands because there were not, other bands were ahead of them like Abba The Police, Madness, Culture Club, Duran Duran, Spandau Ballet etc........ Even in the 70s and 80s Queens ticket sales sold very fast but there was hardly a massive promotion campaign to sell the tickets. Queen/Adam tickets have a massive over the top hyping campaign on facebook and even advertised on British tv, something that was never done in Freddies days, so now they can reach more people and sell more tickets for half the talent of Freddie & John ! |
| rockchic65 02.03.2018 09:24 |
runner & happystar Serious question, if this collaboration upsets you as much as it clearly does, why do you keep inflicting it on yourselves in the Q+AL part of the forum when there's the rest of the forum dedicated to Queen stuff where you could discuss all the Freddie & John related stuff you want? |
| Vocal harmony 02.03.2018 09:51 |
happystar the internet provides instant access to every major bands tours. That's how it is now. To say Queen weren't at the forefeet of advertising commercially in the 70's and 80's is very wide of the mark. The 77 UK summer tour had full page advertising in the weekly music papers MM, NME, Sounds, Record Mirror etc As did the 78, 79, 80, etc. Knebworth in 86 had double page ad's all of the albums and singles in the UK from Killer Queen onwards again had full page ad's. Tours and albums were given bill board space too. Had the internet existed back then they would have been all over that instead. |
| Holly2003 02.03.2018 11:28 |
It's ironic that people who don't like QAL are being told to "move on" or "stop living in the past" while half of Queen play their Greatest hits setlists on every tour. |
| Vocal harmony 02.03.2018 12:02 |
Holly2003 wrote: It's ironic that people who don't like QAL are being told to "move on" or "stop living in the past" while half of Queen play their Greatest hits setlists on every tour.Greatest Hits is their biggest selling album Its the album that made them able to sell concert tickets in the quantity they still do. They've played a greatest hits set since 86. It what the biggest percentage of ticket buyers are expecting to hear. The set list has changed since 2005 each time they've toured to a certain decree. Saying move on from 1991 is valid just as playing what they play is. Ticket sales prove it |
| Holly2003 02.03.2018 12:36 |
Yeah, they haven't moved on, as you well know. So why do you expect fans to "move on"? What is there to move on to? They don't do new music and don;t take risks with setlists. We all know why they;re doing it, and that's fine, but they are not "moving on". So its dumb and condescending telling other fans to do it just because they don't want to hear Brian, Rog and Lambert and you do. You're not being open minded: quite the opposite. |
| runner_70 02.03.2018 13:50 |
Exactly. This is always so funny reading from Glamberts to "stop living in the past" while QALs newest song is from 1989. I told you the Lamebird freaks are all delusional..... |
| Vocal harmony 02.03.2018 14:25 |
Glamberts? I'm not a fan, I own none of his music. Moving on and accepting change doesn't mean you have to like it. Holly what you or I might like them to play has nothing to do with moving on. I'd love to hear White Queen, Father To Son etc but two thirds of the audience wouldn't have a clue what they were hearing Freddie unfortunately is no longer here, they've moved on and did something they enjoy. It doesn't actually disrespect anyone unless you're of the mind to think it does. |
| Star* 02.03.2018 15:12 |
Queen have not moved on because they have not advanced on what they did with John & Freddie, Basically this QAL thing is pocket money for May & Taylor, and god forbid if Lambird was allowed to destroy Father to son or White Queen they he would deserve to get pelted with eggs! |
| runner_70 02.03.2018 15:59 |
Hard to imagine that Karaoke Kid is doing WHite Queen or Father to son. It is enough that he destroys their hits |
| Holly2003 02.03.2018 17:10 |
Simply repeating that they've moved on doesn't mean they have, They tried something new with Paul Rodgers: the album release failed but the tours were successful. So they learned a lesson from that: no more albums, but people will still pay to see some version of Queen live. So they kept the brand name and now play the hits. That is not moving on, that's living off past glories. That's fine if that;s what they want to do. But if it doesn't appeal to some fans that doesn't necessarily make those fans narrow minded. |
| inu-liger 02.03.2018 17:17 |
I feel so bad for the op of this topic. Couldn’t we move all this off-topic bickering to another thread, please? Show some respect. |
| runner_70 02.03.2018 17:40 |
Respect seems to be asskissing for you inulinger |
| Star* 02.03.2018 17:51 |
Holly2003 Well said and i totally agree with your post ! You are a wise Queeny. |
| Vocal harmony 02.03.2018 19:02 |
Holly they actually played less of a variety of Queen songs over the Paul Rodgers tour than they have with Lambert. But if you want to use the set list as a barometer of how much they moved on, between 78 and 80 they were almost stagnant! |
| runner_70 02.03.2018 21:05 |
Vocal harmony - you say you are a Queen fan? I doubt it. Here are two setlists from 1978 and 1980 1978: link 1980: link How can they be stagnant when they release new albums and play lots of those songs??? As you can see about half of the setlist if 1980 is different to 1978. Not only due to new songs but also some changes when it comes to the old classics. DOnt try bullshitting us with your drivel that clearly shows that you have no clue what you are talking about. Thank you |
| Vocal harmony 02.03.2018 22:01 |
In 1978 from the start of the Jazz tour until the end of the European 1980 Game shows the set list had the same structure and pretty much the same running order with in the core of the show. Don't accuse me of bullshitting especially after reading some of the crap you've posted |
| runner_70 02.03.2018 23:00 |
I suppose you did not even read the links where you can clearly see that your posting was utter bullshit |
| Vocal harmony 03.03.2018 06:19 |
Yes I did. I said "almost stagnan"t, read my post again Its pretty clear that between the early Jazz shows and 1980 came shows the setlist structure changed little. Putting the 78 lists side by side with the 80's ones if you weren't aware of the two albums they look like they could be part of a differing list from the same tour |
| runner_70 03.03.2018 08:07 |
A little? What are you smoking??? YOu did not read those setlists at all. More than 13 songs changed. Learn to read and come back again. |
| Vocal harmony 03.03.2018 18:24 |
You said it yourself 13 songs in a set that was 25+ songs over that period. Think about this, the show opening and first couple of songs, most of the medley, position of Love Of My Life in the set placing of Bo Rhap, Tie Your Mother Down Now I'm Here, Brian's solo Keep Yourself Alive. . . . Take your own advice, learn to read, but also give the subject you're talking about some thought and you may develope an understanding for it. |
| Star* 03.03.2018 21:10 |
Queen always kept the perennial favourites in the set list "Tie your mother down" "Love of my life" " Somebody to love" but yeah new songs appeared when a new album was released! |
| snifflese 03.03.2018 22:31 |
If they don't release any new albums then it is hard to release new songs. Guess they have to rely on the hits. Some of the songs Die hards want wouldn't go over very well with the general public which is a lot of the people who attend the show. They tried the two or three new songs at the beginning of the last tourin the States and Brian felt they flopped, so they do what the audience seems to prefer. That is the only way that you get repeat concert goers. They always add a few new ones and most people are very satisfied. |
| runner_70 04.03.2018 13:03 |
Proof that a QAL audience is only the Greatest Hits Joe Pulic guys and gals |
| snifflese 04.03.2018 15:19 |
What is wrong with that when you have all those hits? Bands would love to have all those hits to play and to make the regular fans happy. You certainly aren't going to be popular if you play the unknown songs that a mere handful are familiar with. You might as well go sit in your closet! Is it the singer or the list of songs they play that make you such a Debbie Downer? What exactly should they be playing ,although I guess Adam wouldn't sing it well anyway. Get a life, Dude!! |
| runner_70 04.03.2018 17:07 |
Lamebert should sing no Queensong at all you are right |
| Star* 04.03.2018 18:15 |
When you think of all the bands in the universe and no one wanted to offer Lamebird the position of lead singer for there group and then sucker Brian May came along and made a grave mistake by belittling Queen fans by offering Lamebird lead vocalist job and never even consulted the fans for there suggestions. Just think of all the bands that need new lead singers but ignored Lamebird, like Slade, The Sweet, Led Zep, Take That, etc.............so why Queen? Because Queen were very desperate to get back on the road and make a point that they think there is life after Freddie & John but sadly we know the unit of 4 will never be as dynamic as it was from 1971 to 1991. Still lets let them pretend they are huge again lol |
| rockchic65 04.03.2018 18:28 |
Adam never intended being in a band, he wanted and still want's to be a solo artist, but let's be honest, when Queen ask you, you'd be mad to say no. That said he did say no or at least not yet initially, he wanted to put out his own album first and even up to 2014 he was still talking about it an occasional appearance thing, not a permanent position. You just want to believe the worst but in reality Adam is nothing like you think at all. |
| snifflese 04.03.2018 20:03 |
When in the world would a band ask their fans who to sing for them? There are very few fans as extreme as you, so I don't think your input would count for much! Good thing they didn't ask you! You don't have to hang up your shoes when Freddie is dead. If there are two left to tango, who can still play at an impressive level and who WROTE a lot of the music, why should they stop being who they are? I don't understand why fans would want them to do that! They are musicians to their core and they want to perform. If you are able to do that with a pretty perfect replacement, why not? You are being awful selfish to think they ought to just go in a closet and die! |
| Star* 04.03.2018 20:15 |
Lambert is not a pretty perfect replacement so please do not insult us Queen fans intelligence. Lambert is just a standard singer, Freddie was above the average singer he was a tour de force on stage and many people regard him as the master vocalist and the very best there is. I know you love Adam but get a reality check, Adam is not in the same league as Freddie, not a sniff of the same high class talent and Queen are so much poorer with Adam as lead vocalist. Sadly Queen are worse off with Adam and have lost an awful lot of ardent Queen and rock fans from the 70s when they were regarded as a heavy rock band, who would have known that 39 years after the release of "The News of the World" album and the band have lost bassist John Deacon and the irreplaceable Freddie Mercury, and to me and many others Queen have now lost there appeal and magic. |
| rockchic65 04.03.2018 20:32 |
happystar It's obvious you aren't a musician or singer because if you were you'd understand that it's a passion and not just a job you have to put up with until retirement. They love what they do and managed after 20 years or so to find a singer who could handle the catalogue, had the stage presence to put it over and the ability to get the crowd to love him just by being himself. That might not be how you see him but that's the reality. And which Queen fans have they lost? Most either embrace the new line up, decide it isn't for them and ignore it and carry on listening to original Queen stuff and just a few like you and runner hate it with a vengeance and won't let it go. Why's it such a big deal anyway? Freddie said he didn't care what happened to his music once he was gone so why are some of his fans so bothered? |
| runner_70 05.03.2018 12:02 |
He is neither a good vocalist nor is there any stage presence. He sounds like a goat and looks like an Asian Ladyboy. If thats your idea of a perfect replacement then I salute you |
| rockchic65 05.03.2018 12:14 |
Well a lot of people seem to be loving it. And seriously, Asian Ladyboy? Come on, you might have had a point several years ago but not currently. The vocalist bit is in your head, he's well respected as being an amazing singer, just not what you like - subjective. Lack of stage presence - again subjective, people are commenting on it and it's what he's always been known for. Goat - If you are going to talk vibrato, include Freddie in that discussion. |
| runner_70 05.03.2018 15:50 |
Freddie surely had no goat vibrato and did no pointless Mariah Carey vocal acrobatics like Lameturd |
| Vocal harmony 05.03.2018 16:34 |
How can you be a judge of stage presence when you haven't seen a live show? |
| rockchic65 05.03.2018 17:17 |
runner Freddie had a noticeable vibrato. |
| snifflese 05.03.2018 19:20 |
Freddie had a huge vibrato, just go listen to some of the youtubes. I checked out a lot of them back when Adam started singing with Queen and kept seeing the criticism about the vibrato. I DID hear it in the EMA performance, their first big one. Then it went away, as Adam can use it or not. Freddie, however, normally has quite a vibrato that isn't that pleasant to listen to! I don't get it when the Master himself is guilty of that and you call out Adam for it, but he has not used it overyly much since the EMA's. However, vibrato to some degree is a voice saving technique! Tired of hearing that garbage and the name calling. How old are you again? You sound like a grade schooler making up stupid names for people. Who in the world is going to take you seriously when you come across as a whiny CHILD??? |
| Star* 05.03.2018 19:21 |
VH I saw Freddie on Top of the Pops many years ago and i instantly knew he had stage presence and poise, Sadly Mr/Miss Lambert has none of those things. |
| rockchic65 05.03.2018 19:42 |
happystar In your opinion, but from the response of the crowds at the shows that isn't the reality at all. They are loving his stage presence. |
| SweetCaroline 05.03.2018 20:17 |
happystar, why don’t you call Freddie, Miss Mercury? |
| rockchic65 06.03.2018 08:52 |
Well since Brian calls him Madam Lambert I wouldn't worry too much about the Miss. |
| Iron Butterfly 06.03.2018 09:28 |
rockchic65 wrote: Well since Brian calls him Madam Lambert I wouldn't worry too much about the Miss.Thanks, I was wondering if that would have been brought up here. Freddie had the nick name Melina Mercury given to him by Elton John. Miss, Madam...no big deal at all really. |
| Iron Butterfly 06.03.2018 09:39 |
snifflese wrote: When in the world would a band ask their fans who to sing for them? There are very few fans as extreme as you, so I don't think your input would count for much! Good thing they didn't ask you! You don't have to hang up your shoes when Freddie is dead. If there are two left to tango, who can still play at an impressive level and who WROTE a lot of the music, why should they stop being who they are? I don't understand why fans would want them to do that! They are musicians to their core and they want to perform. If you are able to do that with a pretty perfect replacement, why not? You are being awful selfish to think they ought to just go in a closet and die!INXS tried it with JD Fortune who joined the band. It didn't quite work out. That's one example. Why do you always say good thing that there is this that? I guess it's your way of wanting certain POVs shut down. Personally, I think it will be a sad day when Brian and Roger retire. It's why I hope after Q+AL is over that they can get back to the Queen music left in vaults. If not, maybe more solo music. Good thing that not everyone thinks AL replaced Freddie, and good thing not everyone thinks AL is a pretty perfect replacement. I'm one of those people who thinks Freddie s irreplaceable...but good to know you think Freddie is replaced and the guy you think replaced Freddie is pretty perfect. I never would have guessed you felt that way *sarcasm*. Who said anything about them going into a closet and die? |
| rockchic65 06.03.2018 10:32 |
I personally don't see him as a replacement and neither does he. It's just a progression, for musicians who still want to be out doing their thing and have found someone who it works with. The audiences are loving it but they aren't comparing, just accepting it as a different entity, or at least that's the impression I have from all the feedback on facebook/twitter. |
| runner_70 06.03.2018 12:10 |
Progression? Really? From one if not THE best frontman ever to a sad lil Karaoke kid who lost in an American Casting show? They are just a sad Greatest Hits act to gain $ for the pension fund |
| Star* 06.03.2018 14:15 |
If Glamberts think Adam is a pretty good replacement for our Freddie then they are pretty much off there heads. Freddie had miles and miles of talent and far too talented for adam to compete with. He is one lucky guy getting that lucky break to even stand on the same stage as May & Taylor, and he knows that, but he just better enjoy it because "The show wont go on" much longer! |
| snifflese 06.03.2018 15:46 |
What word would you use for Adam's role, replacement, stand in, successor. I am not sure what word would not offend you. This is getting way too PC. |
| Iron Butterfly 07.03.2018 00:53 |
snifflese wrote: What word would you use for Adam's role, replacement, stand in, successor. I am not sure what word would not offend you. This is getting way too PC.A guest. |
| snifflese 07.03.2018 01:06 |
Guests don't sing with a group for over 5 years and hundreds of concerts! Don't care if that is what Adam says. He is too careful of stepping on any toes. At this point I think it is ridiculous. |
| Iron Butterfly 07.03.2018 03:08 |
snifflese wrote: Guests don't sing with a group for over 5 years and hundreds of concerts! Don't care if that is what Adam says. He is too careful of stepping on any toes. At this point I think it is ridiculous.Thought you were "done"? So what is AL singing the songs to you then? He does say he is a guest.Once again you don't care, go figure. Do you really think he is afraid of stepping on toes about it after all this time? Yea, come back with the usual he is a member of the Queen family, he reinvigorated Brian and Roger, AL went on a trip with Roger...anything to make him seem bigger and more important. What is most important to you, is that AL is the one singing those Queen songs, you don't care at all about the Freddie/Queen legacy at all. |
| runner_70 07.03.2018 07:35 |
snifflese said it right-Lamebird is ridiculous |
| rockchic65 07.03.2018 11:01 |
What's ridiculous is people being up in arms about a guy singing with a band who's singer has been dead for 27 years. It's not like they kicked him out and replaced him. Should anyone who loses someone just stop living, stagnate, sit in a rocker and never do anything again? If a partner dies is that it, you just curl up and wait to die yourself, or you're somehow pissing on their grave? |
| runner_70 07.03.2018 11:58 |
They should have done sth creative instead if lame neverending greatest Hits tours with a casting muppet |
| rockchic65 07.03.2018 12:05 |
They don't need to, that's the point. Making albums is for something to tour off, they can tour regardless. The Queen catalogue is so massive and popular they could probably tour for years without ever writing a new song. I think they paid their dues writing some of the best music ever created for years, why shouldn't they relax a bit and just enjoy it if the fans still want to see them. It's harming no one and making thousands happy, can't see a single negative about that. |
| Star* 07.03.2018 14:30 |
The only negative thing about this Queen/Lambert mess is that they are charging an absolute fortune for tickets when Lambert is not a professional rock musician he is only a novice singer, he cannot write music, play any instrument and relies on May & Taylor to provide the whole shows music, all he does is sing in karaoke fashion. Queen deserve so much better than that, they at least deserve a singer who actually knows what he is doing on stage and not take the piss out of the songs like Lamebird does on "Bicycle Race" where he comes on stage riding a tricycle of "Killer Queen" where he is lied on a couch fanning himself in a very effeminate way looking transgendered confused ! Can you honestly believe Queen have gone from been the once respected British rock group to this tripe in 2018? May & Taylor dont give a flying fuchsia for what Queen means anymore, they have lost all of there respect for the band that use to be selective, classy and careful for what it did. Freddie would not agree to Lamberts stupid pranks on stage as he didnt like been shown up, Freddie was a proud man and very professional. |
| rockchic65 07.03.2018 15:24 |
First he's no novice, he's been performing and singing for years in various ways. He had already done a six month solo tour, no breaks, before he joined up with Brian & Roger and he knows exactly what he's doing on stage - why do you think they are getting such good reviews from media and fans alike. All the parts you mention are the reason people love him, he's fun, campy, silly and makes people laugh and feel good. What you see as taking the piss is not even close to what he's really doing and people who actually go to see them get it, they get him. Solo or with Queen his love of being accessible to the audience and making them feel part of the show, bringing the band into it instead of just making it about himself is what works. Just because his persona is very different from Freddie's doesn't make it bad. It works because it's different, people don't want a copy. As to May & Taylor providing all the music, he's a guest singer, what else would he be singing. It would hardly work including half of Adam's songs would it, you really would be complaining then. As to writing music, see my previous comment. |
| Star* 07.03.2018 15:48 |
Adam is hardly a guest after touring with Queen for 5 years! Brian May never announced he was the permanent lead singer for upsetting some fans, he was coy doing that. Paul Rodgers shared his music with Queen on stage and you said that would hardly work with Adam, why not then? Lambert had not been in those massive arenas and stadiums before Queen offered him the role of lead singer, so if he was professional then he would have made it on his own with his solo career surely? Many people shied away from standing in Freddies shoes as they knew those were massive shoes to fill, so either Lambert was naive or just plain stupid to accept? To be honest i don't care what Queen do now because i have seen the band 5 times when they were a serious heavy rock n roll band, today they are a shadow of themselves and will soon be extinct. May & Taylor love playing live, i get that but to give a kid from a reality show a job, was very stupendous indeed. Sure you love Lambert but you would rather have him doing something more constructive than touring with a dead band who's singer was the star of there show, and without him the show will never go on in the usual regal fashion we Queen fans were accustomed too. |
| snifflese 07.03.2018 16:26 |
Read the reviews, Dude, and all the tweets, instagrams, facbook and youtube comments. REAL Queen fans who have also seen them back in the day, LOVE THE SHOW!! You and your two or three cohorts here are in the very small minority of people who don't care for this. Great, we get it, but you sure are ugly about it. Go back and watch old Queen videos from back in the day. I will watch the current show as it is spectacular. It is more than just the singer, you know. It is the lights, the sound, the spectacle of it and there was nothing like it originally. The tech wasn't there, so if you prefer the original version of Queen, go watch it and quit complaining. No one is making you endure the current collaboration. Join your other buddies and watch the REGAL queen online! |
| rockchic65 07.03.2018 16:50 |
happystar First Adam still considers himself a guest, as recently as an interview in Australia he called himself exactly that. No idea if that's how Brian & Roger see him or if that's just where he's coming from. Despite what you think of him he really doesn't want to be swallowed up as part of the band so probably uses that term to keep the distinction between working with Queen and doing his solo stuff. He played a mixture of smaller theaters and larger venue's, some festivals, including the putra stadium in malaysia - 14,500 capacity on his first solo tour. In my opinion Adam's music is so far away from Queen's there's no way I could imagine an audience of mostly Queen fans, even if casual fans, being happy with half of his music being played. I like some of Adam's solo stuff but I was glad they didn't even do the one song of his at the show I went to, I was there for Queen music. Their different styles just don't work together for me. The only song I think might have worked is Lucy, because Brian played on it, seems odd that wasn't the one they used IMO, would have been the logical choice. When they put the idea to him it was presented as a one off thing and that's how he thought of it. In that context it's no different than what they've done with other artists like Tom Chaplin, George Michael etc. I'm sure he never expected it to grow legs like it did but since people kept wanting them to do more he'd be daft not to do it. It didn't happen overnight he'd been around in the public eye for nearly five years before they did a proper world tour. You really do have a very different view of him than the majority of people. |
| Vocal harmony 07.03.2018 17:57 |
The Paul Rodgers shows never had as much of a Queen feeling as the current shows. The band lineup with a second guitarist (Jamie Mosses) gave the music a slightly different dynamic and certainly made Brian play differently. As you know the setlist was roughly two thirds Queen and a third Paul Rodgers. The production although big was really an average arena show. Which easily scaled down on the 2005 tour to fit into Brixton Academy. The last two Lambert tours have been huge production wise, this one especially, 22 trucks is far bigger than anything they've toured with. That is what the ticket price is paying for ( although you haven't bought one but feel the need to moan about it). It takes about 140 people (touring and local crew combined) to set the show up, slightly more for the nights load out. Again hugely expensive. The promoter sets the ticket price, not the band, he pays the band but also takes a cut, quite a big cut. Do expect everyone to work for nothing? You've made your opinion heard over and over again, but if you look at world wide ticket sales there are plenty who disagree with you. |
| Star* 07.03.2018 18:44 |
VH: Sure i understand many like the shows, i am not stopping anyones fun, what people do with there money is there business, but what i do object to is the way the shows come across now, silly, stupid childish behaviour by Lambert and i cant believe May & Taylor allows Lambert to make jokes of the songs, like Bicycle Race, he comes on stage riding a tricycle or Killer Queen where the couch comes out and he lies there like a proper lady bod fanning himself, what must the heavy rock fans think of that? Black Sabbath, AC/DC fans must be pissing themselves with laughter at this freaky show. Queen and Adam Lambert are a joke and not be taken seriously anymore. |
| rockchic65 07.03.2018 19:01 |
happystar I really don't think the majority of fans see it that way at all. All the comments about the shows mention all the other stuff but rarely mention those things and the ones who do are saying they find it funny and love it. The vids make it seem a far larger part of the show than the reality, mainly because it seems to be Adam's fans that post the vids and they focus on him up close. In the scheme of the show those bits are a very small part and probably take up about ten minutes in total. The whole show isn't made up of silly things, far from it. As for Black Sabbath, AC/DC fans I wouldn't imagine they are at a Queen show. Incidentally the couch part hasn't been done on this tour. |
| Star* 07.03.2018 19:20 |
There you are again always about Adams fans focusing up close on him, what about the guitarist and brilliant drummer who provide the music for the concerts for without them Adam would not have a show? AC/DC and Black Sabbath fans don't live in the dark ages, for i am sure they have laptops to see the circus that is Queen + Lambert on youtube etc... Queen concerts in my day where not to be laughed at, plus people took there music seriously in the 70s and 80s, but now Lambert degrades Queen down to his level and that is only a bad thing. If Lambert went on British TV Talent shows today he would get a shock, when he appeared on Xfactor 2 years ago with contestant Sarra Aallto she actually sounded much better than Lambert did ! Lambert is really not that popular here in the uk because we just don't get it, and what the statement he is making is all about? .. |
| snifflese 07.03.2018 19:39 |
I guess all those immediately sold out Shows in Britain this summer will be populated with foreigners! Surely can't be Brits buying those tickets. What about the big weekend festival show in Glasgow (I think?) in July? I guess there is no hope of selling that out. You must really be daft to think Brits don't care for them and it is Adam singing which is part of the draw. I read pretty much only rave reviews when QAL did the Big Ben New Year's show a few years ago. Who do you think is leaving those reviews? British people seem to really like Adam and QAL otherwise they would not keep selling out. PS- If you preferred Aallto, you need a hearing check!! Adam takes his singing very seriously. You don't know squat about him if you don't realize that! He is a perfectionist and everything is thought out and there are no glitsches usually. The QAL show is made up of musical chapters so to speak and the one you keep moaning about is a small part of the whole. It is well received during the show and is supposed to be campy and out there. Then the band moves on to the next section of the show. They are not a one note band like so many of the boring bands of today. Thank goodness for that! Music is also supposed to be fun not all serious and boring! |
| rockchic65 07.03.2018 19:44 |
happystar I was pointing out that Adam's fans tend to film him close up, hence the stuff he does looks more in your face than it really is. It's hardly my fault that's what they do. As to AC/DC & Sabbath fans watching vids - not really sure why they would if they aren't Queen fans. Here's a clip if you can be bothered to watch - Adam talking about doing the killer queen thing, he explains it better than I can. It's less than a minute long, don't need to watch the whole thing. link I personally didn't like the X Factor thing, their voices just didn't work together at all. Don't really know what you mean by the statement he's making. If you mean the camp thing in the show, that is clearly done in fun and not meant to be any kind of statement. |
| Iron Butterfly 07.03.2018 20:34 |
Why do Glamberts point out how many years since Freddie passed away? Do they think Queen fans here don't know about it? |
| Iron Butterfly 07.03.2018 20:42 |
snifflese wrote: Read the reviews, Dude, and all the tweets, instagrams, facbook and youtube comments. REAL Queen fans who have also seen them back in the day, LOVE THE SHOW!! You and your two or three cohorts here are in the very small minority of people who don't care for this. Great, we get it, but you sure are ugly about it. Go back and watch old Queen videos from back in the day. I will watch the current show as it is spectacular. It is more than just the singer, you know. It is the lights, the sound, the spectacle of it and there was nothing like it originally. The tech wasn't there, so if you prefer the original version of Queen, go watch it and quit complaining. No one is making you endure the current collaboration. Join your other buddies and watch the REGAL queen online!I've read plenty. Hasn't changed my mind. Only the music itself can do that. I don't know why you keep harping on about tweets, articles, etc, as if it's some kind of example you hold up that everyone likes the concerts. |
| snifflese 07.03.2018 20:56 |
That is exactly what it is, documentation, because people here imply that there are lots of people who aren't on board. That is fine if that is their opinion, but it isn't true of most concert goers nor real Queen fans if you read what is online. How else do you show that not everyone agrees with the negativity, that it isn't the majority of fans? In any kind of a debate there is always something that substantiates your POV. By the way nobody is trying to sway you, as that would be impossible (and perfectly fine!!). |
| Iron Butterfly 08.03.2018 01:21 |
snifflese wrote: That is exactly what it is, documentation, because people here imply that there are lots of people who aren't on board. That is fine if that is their opinion, but it isn't true of most concert goers nor real Queen fans if you read what is online. How else do you show that not everyone agrees with the negativity, that it isn't the majority of fans? In any kind of a debate there is always something that substantiates your POV. By the way nobody is trying to sway you, as that would be impossible (and perfectly fine!!).Sure, there are lots of people who aren't on board? So what? Do you really expect everyone to love everything about the shows? That will never happen. Why is it so bloody important to/for you that people like the concerts? Only the music can change my views...I may never like some things, but I liked something else a great deal, and even that's not good enough for you. It's either all or nothing for you , real life is rarely like that. |
| runner_70 08.03.2018 06:01 |
THose Glamtarts get wo worked up when someone criticizes the annoying goat. In their bubble world he is a rockstar (he is a sad plastic dance artist in real life) and a great singer (he sounds like a raped goat) and looks "magnificent" (like a 5 $ hooker ladyboy) |
| Iron Butterfly 08.03.2018 08:07 |
runner_70 wrote: THose Glamtarts get wo worked up when someone criticizes the annoying goat. In their bubble world he is a rockstar (he is a sad plastic dance artist in real life) and a great singer (he sounds like a raped goat) and looks "magnificent" (like a 5 $ hooker ladyboy)Oh I know some of them do get very worked up. No comment on the raped goat comment. But I do wish Brian and Roger could do a sort of an unplugged type of concert, even a couple of times to see how it would be without the bells and whistles. |
| runner_70 08.03.2018 08:16 |
Unplugged would never work as Queen was always about being over the top. They just should get back on track an realise how ridiculous this collaboration was/is. I dont expect an apology but every sane person is just laughing about them teaming up with this guy. Joe Public in the concerts doesnt care but the serious music lover is cringing with embarrassment |
| rockchic65 08.03.2018 08:29 |
Really - every sane person? That's an awful lot of people you're classifying as insane. Are you seriously saying no serious music fans go to the shows? And what about the other musicians from bands that turn up at them, are they all insane as well? And before you say it, no I wasn't talking about Boy George. |
| Iron Butterfly 08.03.2018 09:10 |
runner_70 wrote: Unplugged would never work as Queen was always about being over the top. They just should get back on track an realise how ridiculous this collaboration was/is. I dont expect an apology but every sane person is just laughing about them teaming up with this guy. Joe Public in the concerts doesnt care but the serious music lover is cringing with embarrassmentNah, not always were Queen about being over the top. LOML, ITTWC, YTMB, GC, DOOL, just some of the songs I think could be good for an Unplugged type of show. I think Brian especially is sticking to his guns about AL. But what Brian says sometimes, for examples AL is the best singer, shows are better than it was with Freddie etc, I guess anything to hype AL and the shows up. Things like that, plus the fact many Glamberts eat it up...not a good thing. I'm sane...kinda LOL. |
| rockchic65 08.03.2018 09:42 |
Seems to me what Brian says gets taken out of context a lot. He didn't say the shows are better than with Freddie, he said it's as good as anything we did in the old days, but in the context of the whole interview he was meaning from a playing and production point of view, meaning it's not just a watered down version of a Queen show and they still have all the bells & whistles. |
| Iron Butterfly 08.03.2018 09:54 |
rockchic65 wrote: Seems to me what Brian says gets taken out of context a lot. He didn't say the shows are better than with Freddie, he said it's as good as anything we did in the old days, but in the context of the whole interview he was meaning from a playing and production point of view, meaning it's not just a watered down version of a Queen show and they still have all the bells & whistles.I disagree with Brian that it's as good as anything done in the old days. Need I say Queen were groundbreaking? Q+AL isn't groundbreaking, not even close. Brian feels like he has to hype up these shows with Adam, and Adam too. It's happened plenty of times through the past few years. |
| Star* 08.03.2018 11:45 |
Totally agree, Brian has bullshited everyone in believeing Adam is the best thing since sliced bread, and he sings like the gift from god which is utter crap. Brian never ever praised Freddie for his amazing vocal performances, and to be honest i feel Brian was jealous of Freddie to a certain extent. Queen are no where near as brilliant as they were with Freddie, if anything now they are on low power since Freddie died and John respectfully left as he knew Queen would never work without Freddie, what a decent wise man he is. |
| runner_70 08.03.2018 11:57 |
QAL is like the Titanic before its sinking. Joe Public buys tickets because of the name "Queen" and because he/she wants to hear some Greatest Hits. Regardless who is singing. Joe Public doesnt care if it is a goat who is singing the songs. Brian Money needs the $$ badly it seems. Maybe he had some bad investments so he is riding the dead horse Queen again. Sad but true |
| rockchic65 08.03.2018 14:02 |
Ok then you two, how do you explain all the comments about Adam's voice from Joe Public. They might go for Queen's music but they don't need to wax lyrical about Adam as well. John didn't leave for that reason and even if he had he'd be wrong since it clearly is working brilliantly. Can't say a tour where they are getting rave reviews and adding more and more shows isn't working. Regardless your own feelings on the matter that's just simple fact. |
| Vocal harmony 08.03.2018 15:29 |
^^^ All true. Also the Joe public comments don't hold true because there are old Queen fans in the audiences too. In fact this whole thing is more of a success than some would like to admit. If a band, through the the years, doesn't gain more fans the audience will deminish, this is not the case since they started touring again in 2012 |
| snifflese 08.03.2018 15:37 |
I don'think Joe Public wants to listen to just anybody and probably wouldn't like a show without the bells and whistles quite so much! If they loved just anybody, they would have kept touring with Paul. Having an accoustic show wouldn't attract as many fans, as Hammer to Fall accoustic just doesn't do it. They do have a portion of the show with more vocals, less crashing instruments. They do WWTLF and have done Save Me, which people love, but they really love the loud, guitars blazing, drums hammering, vocals soaring show that they do now! Queens music is not really made for accoustics like Ed Sheeran. Too many of their songs require hard hitting guitars, etc. That idea is a poor one and as I said, they do have a toned down "chapter" in the show. There is a flow to the show and each song is in there for a purpose. |
| Sealion 08.03.2018 16:57 |
An unplugged Queen-Show???? WTF????? The red special is it‘s own member of the band. Brian playing it, makes the sound of Queen. Without it, it‘s not a Queen-gig. Basta. |
| Star* 08.03.2018 16:58 |
Queen would probably have kept on touring with Paul, but i think it was Paul's decision to leave Queen as he was bored. It was the week after Paul quit that Brian spotted Adam, and the rest is history. I prefer Paul because he was a gritty rock n roller and matched May & Taylor to a certain extent, but i cannot get used to Adam, for me he is too plasticky and with him looks comes before the singing and performance, he is like Boy George in a way, and those over peacock bunny boilers lack the performance talent but put too much effort into the make up and clothes. |
| rockchic65 08.03.2018 17:24 |
I have to totally disagree with your comment about looks coming before singing. Adam might like clothes, make up, dressing up and putting on a show but at the end of the day his voice is the most important thing and he makes sure to take good care of it. If you can't get used to him, fine, but no need to put him down over every little thing. |
| runner_70 08.03.2018 19:27 |
which voice? You mean this shrill thing that destroys queen songs? |
| rockchic65 08.03.2018 19:32 |
No I mean the one most other people hear, the one he gets massive amounts of praise in the industry for. Obviously you hear something different. |
| Iron Butterfly 08.03.2018 20:41 |
Sealion wrote: An unplugged Queen-Show???? WTF????? The red special is it‘s own member of the band. Brian playing it, makes the sound of Queen. Without it, it‘s not a Queen-gig. Basta.No WTF about it. Brian can play acoustic guitar you know. ;-) |
| Iron Butterfly 08.03.2018 20:46 |
snifflese wrote: I don'think Joe Public wants to listen to just anybody and probably wouldn't like a show without the bells and whistles quite so much! If they loved just anybody, they would have kept touring with Paul. Having an accoustic show wouldn't attract as many fans, as Hammer to Fall accoustic just doesn't do it. They do have a portion of the show with more vocals, less crashing instruments. They do WWTLF and have done Save Me, which people love, but they really love the loud, guitars blazing, drums hammering, vocals soaring show that they do now! Queens music is not really made for accoustics like Ed Sheeran. Too many of their songs require hard hitting guitars, etc. That idea is a poor one and as I said, they do have a toned down "chapter" in the show. There is a flow to the show and each song is in there for a purpose.Yeah, cause you speak for Joe Public right? Many artists have done Unplugged type shows or concerts. I say if Eric Clapton and George Michael could...anyone could. Nothing wrong with stripping things down...why not try? |
| rockchic65 08.03.2018 20:47 |
The Brian & Kerry stuff seems to work ok, not my thing but I'm sure quite a lot of the Queen songs could be done acoustic. What would be good is some small venues, no bells & whistles, just basic staging and deep cuts instead of hits. Won't happen but a girl can dream. |
| Iron Butterfly 08.03.2018 20:57 |
rockchic65 wrote: The Brian & Kerry stuff seems to work ok, not my thing but I'm sure quite a lot of the Queen songs could be done acoustic. What would be good is some small venues, no bells & whistles, just basic staging and deep cuts instead of hits. Won't happen but a girl can dream.Of course that's how I think an Unplugged type of thing should happen if it were to happen. Let's see if it can be done without the bells and whistles, light show, gimmicks, costume changes, smaller venue etc...it would be interesting to see if nothing else. A girl can dream for sure. I wanted Brian and Roger to do this type of show in the mid 90s when MTVs Unplugged became very popular. |
| runner_70 08.03.2018 20:57 |
I rather listen to Kerry and Brian than 1 minute of QAL |
| Vocal harmony 08.03.2018 21:31 |
happystar wrote: Queen would probably have kept on touring with Paul, but i think it was Paul's decision to leave Queen as he was bored. It was the week after Paul quit that Brian spotted Adam . . . . .They mutually agreed to split during the final south american dates as they weren't getting having to work so closely together. At one point Roger wanted to replace Paul with Jeff Scott Soto. I seem to remember Brian actually saying quite publicly that they split to preserve their friendship. No one left because they were bored |
| Star* 08.03.2018 22:08 |
Seems if they wanted to split to preserve the friendship then things were getting pretty strained between them then, or was it because Paul was not a pushover like Lambert ? |
| Vocal harmony 08.03.2018 22:41 |
Paul Rodgers has a reputation for not being easy to work with |
| Sealion 08.03.2018 23:22 |
Bullet with Butterfly Wings wrote: No WTF about it. Brian can play acoustic guitar you know. ;-)Who would have thought. ;-) Nevertheless, a gig without his old lady isn't a Queen-gig. The Red Special IS important! :P |
| Iron Butterfly 09.03.2018 00:23 |
Sealion wrote:A gig without Freddie and John isn't a Queen gig ;-).Bullet with Butterfly Wings wrote: No WTF about it. Brian can play acoustic guitar you know. ;-)Who would have thought. ;-) Nevertheless, a gig without his old lady isn't a Queen-gig. The Red Special IS important! :P Of course the red special is important. Brian can play acoustic guitar very well too, IMO. |
| Star* 09.03.2018 07:29 |
Bullet : Yeah Brian seems to think that Queen is still out there and alive, he does forget there was 4 people who made the name Queen successful and not just two ! |
| rockchic65 09.03.2018 07:35 |
He doesn't forget, his words to describe them were "we can still be Queen in some form". Think that pretty much describes how he sees them, as a version of Queen. |
| Star* 09.03.2018 11:46 |
Lambert will never be regarded as a member of Queen because he is not that talented enough. He cannot write songs, play instruments or multi task on stage. As you say he is only a singer making May & Taylor money. He is so stupid to not realise he is only getting used as the Queen cash cow! Still he is a lucky guy to even be standing on the same stage as Queen. |
| snifflese 09.03.2018 15:45 |
Adam is not a member of Queen, he is a member of QAL. Adam's talent is his voice, which is as much an instrument as any of those you listed. A once in a lifetime singer is something that stands out and should be treated as such. If you ever read about his voice, he does things that only the top opera singers in the world can do. It is a win/win situation for all of the members of QAL to be touring, winning rave reviews all over the world, entertaining fans and having a blast doing it. Adam could not do it on his own, nor would Roger and Brian be this successful with anyone else. I firmly believe that. You can believe what you want, but it is the synergy of Adam and Brian and Roger that makes this as successful as it is. |
| Star* 09.03.2018 16:56 |
That is a bit strong saying Brian & Roger would not be successful without Lambert, that is a joke. I think you would find it is the other way round. Lambert came from nothing, Brian gave him the break and Lambert grabbed his hand off because he knew he would not get anything this big ever in his entire life. Queen did ok with Paul Rodgers, but we do not see Paul Rodgers fans on here trying to persuade us all that he is the best thing since sliced bread! I am am puzzled why you are on a Queen site because Queen are far more important than a Z lister celeb like Lambert. |
| Iron Butterfly 09.03.2018 19:56 |
happystar wrote: That is a bit strong saying Brian & Roger would not be successful without Lambert, that is a joke. I think you would find it is the other way round. Lambert came from nothing, Brian gave him the break and Lambert grabbed his hand off because he knew he would not get anything this big ever in his entire life. Queen did ok with Paul Rodgers, but we do not see Paul Rodgers fans on here trying to persuade us all that he is the best thing since sliced bread! I am am puzzled why you are on a Queen site because Queen are far more important than a Z lister celeb like Lambert.You know why many Glamberts come along? To try to convince people to become AL fans and spread 'news' about him and his music and life. To boost AL up as the best singer out there, to keep his name out there, basically to promote him. |
| snifflese 09.03.2018 20:04 |
I am not on the Queen only thread, this is the QAL thread and unless you have totally lost it, I think Adam is the singer for QAL. DO you not understand that??? Therefore, we can talk about Adam and I do think think the current Queen shows just wouldn't be growing like they are without Adam. He brings magic back to the vocals and Brian and Roger bring magic with their music and their musicianship. Together they make the magic that has morphed into such a huge, popular concert. They are moving up on the charts for successful tours and it wouldn't be happening if they were not together. It is a match made in heaven for most people. If you couldn't see Freddie, this is going to be the next best thing. Everyone in QAL brings out the best in each other and it is wonderful! Of course, Brian and Roger are the huge stars and I am sure Adam is most grateful, but I still don't see this the Q plus show being what it is without Adam as singer. He just fits their music like a glove, so they are also lucky to have found the right singer, as Brian and Roger have repeatedly said. I would assume you might believe it straight from the horse's mouth? Brian and Roger have said they would not be touring with anyone else as he Adam is the perfect fit. But I know most real Queen fans like the few on here, totally disregard the two active members of Queen and certainly don't every believe anything they have to say! Which I find quite ridiculous! |
| Iron Butterfly 09.03.2018 20:43 |
snifflese wrote: I am not on the Queen only thread, this is the QAL thread and unless you have totally lost it, I think Adam is the singer for QAL. DO you not understand that??? Therefore, we can talk about Adam and I do think think the current Queen shows just wouldn't be growing like they are without Adam. He brings magic back to the vocals and Brian and Roger bring magic with their music and their musicianship. Together they make the magic that has morphed into such a huge, popular concert. They are moving up on the charts for successful tours and it wouldn't be happening if they were not together. It is a match made in heaven for most people. If you couldn't see Freddie, this is going to be the next best thing. Everyone in QAL brings out the best in each other and it is wonderful! Of course, Brian and Roger are the huge stars and I am sure Adam is most grateful, but I still don't see this the Q plus show being what it is without Adam as singer. He just fits their music like a glove, so they are also lucky to have found the right singer, as Brian and Roger have repeatedly said. I would assume you might believe it straight from the horse's mouth? Brian and Roger have said they would not be touring with anyone else as he Adam is the perfect fit. But I know most real Queen fans like the few on here, totally disregard the two active members of Queen and certainly don't every believe anything they have to say! Which I find quite ridiculous!See what I mean by promoting him? Some can't post without hyping AL up. Q+AL the next best thing if a person could not see Freddie? Which article, Facebook post or tweet did you take that from? Brian and Roger said they won't be touring without AL...so what? Am I supposed to fall over myself with that statement? And I think I know by now you rarely talk about Queen with Freddie because you can't be bothered to even discuss it or even care about that history. Keep in mind AL wouldn't be where is without Queen. |
| snifflese 09.03.2018 21:23 |
I am not on the Queen thread so why do I need to discuss Freddie? I do not even want to go there, as I am sure someone would bite my head off as I am not a font of knowledge as far as old Queen or Freddie are concerned. I also don't get the promoting and the hyping. We are DISCUSSING and that is my opinion and that of many others. I am not promoting him, but this is the thread where we maybe could discuss some things, but you and some of the others just won't allow it as you always come up with the same crap. If you don't believe anything Roger or Brian says I honestly don't know how you have the gall to call yourself a Queen fan. Why don't you trot over to the regular Queen threads and have a blast discussing Freddie and John? I just don't know why you people keep coming on here with the same tired garbage. Yes, we know that you don't care for QAL. You don't like or respect Adam or Brian or Roger. You just want to keep anyone who does enjoy QAL from discussing the band. I get tired of your constant promotion of Freddie. Really, like anyone is ever going to do that! But you make it sound like he is about ready to topple off the pedestal and you are the one to keep him right up there. Talk about constant promoting! Freddie is an icon and no one is ever going to think any differently, so your contantly bringing him up is just not necessary. |
| Iron Butterfly 09.03.2018 21:34 |
snifflese wrote: I am not on the Queen thread so why do I need to discuss Freddie? I do not even want to go there, as I am sure someone would bite my head off as I am not a font of knowledge as far as old Queen or Freddie are concerned. I also don't get the promoting and the hyping. We are DISCUSSING and that is my opinion and that of many others. I am not promoting him, but this is the thread where we maybe could discuss some things, but you and some of the others just won't allow it as you always come up with the same crap. If you don't believe anything Roger or Brian says I honestly don't know how you have the gall to call yourself a Queen fan. Why don't you trot over to the regular Queen threads and have a blast discussing Freddie and John? I just don't know why you people keep coming on here with the same tired garbage. Yes, we know that you don't care for QAL. You don't like or respect Adam or Brian or Roger. You just want to keep anyone who does enjoy QAL from discussing the band. I get tired of your constant promotion of Freddie. Really, like anyone is ever going to do that! But you make it sound like he is about ready to topple off the pedestal and you are the one to keep him right up there. Talk about constant promoting! Freddie is an icon and no one is ever going to think any differently, so your contantly bringing him up is just not necessary.Oh, you had something to say about Freddie when someone dared mention his name in the tabloid thread, didn't you. No worries, I knew you didn't care long before that. Pretty much you are using Queen boards to hype up Lambert. Same thing sweetcaroline/CNB has done for years now. Who has said I don't like AL, Brian and Roger and don't respect them? I've never said anything like that. Do I like and agree with everything they do? No, I'm not a stepford. I'm ok with that, clearly you are not. This is a Queen board, this is a sub forum. Seriously, if people mentioning Freddie's name on Queen boards, gets to you this much, I dare say you are in the wrong place and you are very bitter and envious of him. Why are you so rattled and bothered when he is discussed? Erm, hello, Freddie will be discussed on a Queen board, tough if you can't handle that. Not necessary to mention Freddie ... according to a Glambert? You would think that, wouldn't you. No surprise there. You are coming across as very entitled and just crazy. I have no worries about Freddie's legacy living on. I'm sure it will live on for years from now. More than I can say for AL's career. |
| snifflese 09.03.2018 22:23 |
I came to the forums when QAL started to play. I have always loved Queen and bought their records since the 1970's. But I am not a die hard fan that knows everything that they ever did. I never came to the Queen forums until the QAL threads were part of them So don't get in my face about Queen boards as I never posted there and still do not venture onto the Queen threads. I am not knowledgable enough. But, I can and will post in this section and there is nothing wrong with that. Many people became fans of Adam and/or Queen after QAL was formed. That is how one gains new fans, which is one of the great things about this partnership. Freddie is great and he will never be forgotten, but right now what is there to discuss here on this thread? Do you want to compare Adam and Freddie? I doubt that would be a good idea. So, what is there to talk about other than this new formulation of Queen. You have made some pretty scathing remarks about Brian and Roger and you often put up an agree icon when someone else says something. People can infer things from what you write and Freddie and John are the guys you really like, which is fine, but I think some of the crap thrown at Brian in particular is pretty egregious and you are always there agreeing. I don't believe you for a minute about the respect. I am not entitled nor crazy, since I don't worship at Adam's feet and you certainly do at Freddie's. You are have made grand statements about all the things he has meant to you and to your life. Some of it sounds more than a little weird, to be honest. I don't understand fans like that and your scathing remarks make it very clear what your opinions are. Just please leave me alone and answer someone else's comments. I find you more than a little scary! |
| Iron Butterfly 09.03.2018 22:55 |
snifflese wrote: I came to the forums when QAL started to play. I have always loved Queen and bought their records since the 1970's. But I am not a die hard fan that knows everything that they ever did. I never came to the Queen forums until the QAL threads were part of them So don't get in my face about Queen boards as I never posted there and still do not venture onto the Queen threads. I am not knowledgable enough. But, I can and will post in this section and there is nothing wrong with that. Many people became fans of Adam and/or Queen after QAL was formed. That is how one gains new fans, which is one of the great things about this partnership. Freddie is great and he will never be forgotten, but right now what is there to discuss here on this thread? Do you want to compare Adam and Freddie? I doubt that would be a good idea. So, what is there to talk about other than this new formulation of Queen. You have made some pretty scathing remarks about Brian and Roger and you often put up an agree icon when someone else says something. People can infer things from what you write and Freddie and John are the guys you really like, which is fine, but I think some of the crap thrown at Brian in particular is pretty egregious and you are always there agreeing. I don't believe you for a minute about the respect. I am not entitled nor crazy, since I don't worship at Adam's feet and you certainly do at Freddie's. You are have made grand statements about all the things he has meant to you and to your life. Some of it sounds more than a little weird, to be honest. I don't understand fans like that and your scathing remarks make it very clear what your opinions are. Just please leave me alone and answer someone else's comments. I find you more than a little scary!Sure if you say you purchased their records since back in the 70s. Sure LOL. And I'm a full blown Glambert, LOL. Exactly, you have never posted in the Queen forums very much at all. You can't be bothered to discuss Queen with Freddie. That's been clear about you and many other Glamberts that I've seen. I don't even think you care about the history before AL started to tour with Brian and Roger. Does it bother you that I agree with other POVs other than yours or something? That's something else that bothers you obviously. Oh dear, the things that bother you on Queen boards. You really should stick to AL only sites. Yes, Freddie's music means a lot to me. Your point is? I'm not ashamed, embarrassed, or regret of anything I said regarding it, I'm proud to be a fan of his. Keep sinking lower and lower why don't you. Do you see me posting tweet after tweeet, articles after articles, and post pics after pics of Freddie? Again, you couldn't see it if you tried, because I've never done that. Freddie doesn't need me to promote him. If you don't know that Queen were legends years before AL ever came on the scene, I don't know what to tell you. Of course you would think AL pretty much saved Brian's and Roger's career, and AL is the be all and end all. Queen's music has never died out, it's always been there as long as I can remember. It's still selling, being played, etc. I don't buy into Brian and Roger hyping AL up, and I sure as hell won't ever buy into what you say about him. You know what is scary to me? When your buddy sweetcaroline/CNB links to pics of AL are of him away from the the spotlight, even going as far as to link to pics to his very young nephew, and his mother getting married, riding a bike in his free time, that's scary as fuck. Its bordering on mental. What does any of that have to do with anything to do with the music? Nothing at all, but she wants to keep threads at the top and the discussions between her and fellow Glamberts. You are scary too, you loose your temper over next to nothing, your own words some posts 'drives you nuts'. Get a grip on yourself. You and sweetcaroline/CNBboth throw your toys out of the pram when you can't get what you both want and need, which is praise for and to AL. Funny, coming from you who called another artist "that nasty person" because he sang a Queen song. If someone said AL was that nasty person singing Queen songs, you would have a feild day with it and Glamberts would be sending out red alerts to fellow Glamberts. You are also a hypocrite. I don't understand you and sweetcaroline/cnb who has taken upon yourselves for the mission to get AL new fans and promote, and praise the heck out of him. Why the heck is that so important to you? Does he pay you or something? Is there an award for the conversion of new fans or something? You know what you both remind me of? A cult. A cult in which your hero, erm idol can do no wrong. That's how blind you both are to and about the guy. How many times have you repeated yourself, snifflese about the glowing only Facebook posts, reviews and articles? As if that will change my mind. Only the music possibly can change my mind. Definitely not the likes of you will change my mind. Actually, you have said a few times you will ignore my posts, you haven't managed it once before or since, funny thing that. Let's see how long it will last this time. And my dear, you are the one here who goes into a rage when you can't get your own way, and then you you try turn the tables on others. Your tactics, your ignorance is what is very unsettling, and fkd up, for example, you came here shouting the odds that you wanted me banned from both Queen boards just because your buddy was banned elsewhere. The fact you get upset and bitter when people discuss Freddie on a Queen board, your way or the highway is it? No thanks. This ain't your highway. AL will be a footnote for Brian and Roger, nothing more. Freddie was a legend. He will be a legend for a long time yet, thats a fact. Also a fact AL is nowhere near the legend of Freddie Mercury. And I guess that is what bothers you. |
| Star* 10.03.2018 09:59 |
Well said and yes i agree, these Lambert trolls and totally obsessed with this plastic doll who destroys Queens music. Glambert fans lets get one thing straight, you are on a Queen site and the four members will always come before the crumb on the landscape that is Adam Lambert. Freddie is Queens boss and dont you forget it. Your the one that is deluded posting time and time again, trying to preach Lambert like a deluded mormon. Grow up and accept Lambert wont be around long, and Brian & Roger could persuade many that ist ok to jump of a cliff and you would not get hurt, they are the masters of lying to the fans, they are after money because they are soon to retire, it is just that i dont jump just because May & Taylor spew the lies, they dont that with the album Queen - Forever! |
| snifflese 10.03.2018 15:26 |
You are quite the Queen fan, aren't you, Happy Star? I think I would go and hide in shame after what you just said. I guess Roger and Brian don't count for crap if that is your opinion. Well, Freddie wasn't all of Queen by himself. He also would not have been that great had he not teamed up with the other 3. It was all 4 that made Queen what it was. I remember him wanting to go off by himself and I don't believe his solo album was all that wonderful or successful. If you think Roger or Brian need money, you are just clueless, but every post here pretty much shows that. Shame on you for crapping on Brian and Roger. |
| snifflese 10.03.2018 16:44 |
Not sure, Icy, how you can question me about buying Queen's music since the 1970's. How you can even say that, I don't know. I also don't post online. Never have until QAL. There would be no reason for me to go to the Queen forums. You people are rabid and I don't know enough nor would I want to. I love Iron Maiden, Ozzy and Sabbath and have seen them a number of times over the years. I am a huge metal fan and I have never posted on any of their sites and I also have bought their records during the years (but I am sure you will think I am just lying!) I have posted something maybe 3 times or so on Adamtopia when I needed a question answered about a tour and tickets. That is pretty much it for posting online other than the QAL threads here and on QOL. I have loved Adam's voice since Idol and this is the first time anyone has attracted me enough to want to post and I am always for the underdogs, so alot of the stuff I have seen posted about QAL since 2012 has been somewhat upsetting and I wanted to add my 2 cents. I am always surprised at the nastiness on-line and I guess I should not have posted here either. As far as CNB, I don't know her at all, just always felt sorry how everyone always crapped on her too. Maybe she is a little over enthusiastic, but she is kind, at least. Not anything I would ever say about you, unfortunately. As far as pics posted ,etc, they are all over Adamtopia, Twitter and what have you. If Adam or his family doesn't like this, they would keep them private. I don't see that as the problem you do. Adam is way too open sometimes about his private life, but if he shares it, you can't blame CNB. You keep forgetting that all these things are QAL threads, she is not bringing them over to the specifically Queen related threads. If you are not interested, scroll is your friend. |
| Iron Butterfly 10.03.2018 20:20 |
snifflese wrote: Not sure, Icy, how you can question me about buying Queen's music since the 1970's. How you can even say that, I don't know. I also don't post online. Never have until QAL. There would be no reason for me to go to the Queen forums. You people are rabid and I don't know enough nor would I want to. I love Iron Maiden, Ozzy and Sabbath and have seen them a number of times over the years. I am a huge metal fan and I have never posted on any of their sites and I also have bought their records during the years (but I am sure you will think I am just lying!) I have posted something maybe 3 times or so on Adamtopia when I needed a question answered about a tour and tickets. That is pretty much it for posting online other than the QAL threads here and on QOL. I have loved Adam's voice since Idol and this is the first time anyone has attracted me enough to want to post and I am always for the underdogs, so alot of the stuff I have seen posted about QAL since 2012 has been somewhat upsetting and I wanted to add my 2 cents. I am always surprised at the nastiness on-line and I guess I should not have posted here either. As far as CNB, I don't know her at all, just always felt sorry how everyone always crapped on her too. Maybe she is a little over enthusiastic, but she is kind, at least. Not anything I would ever say about you, unfortunately. As far as pics posted ,etc, they are all over Adamtopia, Twitter and what have you. If Adam or his family doesn't like this, they would keep them private. I don't see that as the problem you do. Adam is way too open sometimes about his private life, but if he shares it, you can't blame CNB. You keep forgetting that all these things are QAL threads, she is not bringing them over to the specifically Queen related threads. If you are not interested, scroll is your friend.Same way you don't think I'm a Lambert fan. Remember the crap you gave and continue to give me because you don't think I'm an AL fan? You don't like it when someone doubts you purchased Queen music or that you are a Queen fan? Yeah, I do do doubt it after all you have said...and have not said. Remember how you complained on QOL about AL not getting enough credit that you feel he deserves by the Queen fans over there. That proved to me you aren't a Queen fan, and it's all about Adam for you. You practically bitched and bawled on a Queen board because AL didn't get what you thought he deserved. The bullshit you post sometimes. Basically, I've seen a few Glamberts who come to Queen boards to promote and praise AL to the rafters, plus to try to start crap with people who don't agree AL is the be all and end all for Brian and Roger...and even in the music world, and you are that type to a T. So much praise and promotion, it's comes across as fake and phony, and nothing but spam. Thing is, I love Ozzy and Black Sabbath too. I'd love to ask you more about the concerts you attended, but I will hold back because maybe you don't want to discuss it with me. I absolutely get that you like AL. I have no problems with you liking him. On Queen boards it seems when something is said about AL you don't like, it upsets you, or maybe it's the poster saying what you don't like upsets you and or drives you nuts. I have repeated myself, sure, but you have as well. And we aren't the only ones. You and I see things very differently, and that's really not a problem. What is really mind boggling is your tactics at times. You threw my homophobia experiences that I posted about elsewhere back in my face, and said I posted about it to attention seek. No, that's not why I posted about it. You weren't even a part of that discussion at that time on QOL I remember. But your mind was made up about it. You came here right off the bat calling me out and making a scene that I should have been banned from both Queen boards, simply because your friend was banned from QOL. The odd thing is, I don't even know what caused that to happen. Sweetcaroline/CNB has given many reasons why she felt she was banned, it's hard to know what is true. But I know this much, it wasn't my fault. You seem to think now that I promote Freddie. Come on now, if you can't understand why his name and music can and will be discussed here, that's crazy to me. First this whole board is mostly about Queen, not AL. Your comments in the tabloid thread proved to me at least you didn't care what Freddie went through, because Q+AL gets good reviews from the same tabloids these days. That's insensitive and heartless. Your latest is to clap back at me is to say I'm promoting Freddie. Yeah, come back when I post random tweets, articles, pictures, sometimes one right after the other about Freddie. Of course, you would see not much wrong with sweetcaroline/CNB does, she's a Glambert and can do no wrong in your eyes apparently. Not buying it that if AL's family wanted things private, they would keep it that way. Common sense regarding his family members. The fact that those pics are shared elsewhere doesn't make it any better. It's actually sad Glamberts would even share certain kind of pics in the first place. Again, you can come back to me when I do things like that. That is not, and never has been my type of thing to share such things, you can try and excuse it because others share it, it can be shared on Queen boards.. Not buying that. I don't know how the discussions is supposed to go about AL in his free time. That doesn't interest me, but it does shock me that it's shared. It's terribly invasive, IMO... bordering on the creepy factor. Especially when young kids and his family are included....yep that's all out creepy as fuck. Those people didn't ask for fame and pics to be shared all over the internet. Even I would say AL deserves his privacy...the man can't even ride a bike in a park without pics being taken and shared? That's fucked up. And here you are trying to defend it. I assure you I am a nice person, you don't know me outside of Q+AL sub forums. You say sometimes that you have read what I posted for years, compared to that, you have very little interaction with me. That is what stands out to me in your posts that you have an ax to grind about me. One day you say you will ignore me, another day you will reply to my posts, pick one or the other and stick with it. |
| Star* 10.03.2018 21:30 |
Do not waste your time on Adam Lambert fans because they are un-educated kids who do not want to know Queen history and how Queen smashed world wide records. Fact Queen's Greatest Hits is the biggest selling UK album of all time. That is even in the guinness book of world records. Lambert fans come on here spouting there heads off and Lambert has no impressive history behind his name to win the arguments like Freddie has. So give up glamberts your losing the battle. |
| someonewholikesadam 10.03.2018 23:30 |
Quoted from Happystar (who doesn't seem very happy to me): Do not waste your time on Adam Lambert fans because they are un-educated kids who do not want to know Queen history and how Queen smashed world wide records. Fact Queen's Greatest Hits is the biggest selling UK album of all time. That is even in the guinness book of world records. Lambert fans come on here spouting there heads off and Lambert has no impressive history behind his name to win the arguments like Freddie has. So give up glamberts your losing the battle. WE'RE uneducated?? And you can't even use the right "you're" or "their?" HaHa. And thanks for calling me a kid. |
| Iron Butterfly 11.03.2018 00:19 |
happystar wrote: Do not waste your time on Adam Lambert fans because they are un-educated kids who do not want to know Queen history and how Queen smashed world wide records. Fact Queen's Greatest Hits is the biggest selling UK album of all time. That is even in the guinness book of world records. Lambert fans come on here spouting there heads off and Lambert has no impressive history behind his name to win the arguments like Freddie has. So give up glamberts your losing the battle.Some aren't kids, well I know one isn't a kid :P. If they were kids I'd understand the behaviour a bit more. But I have never seen a fan base in my 20+ years on the internet to behave the way I've seen some Glamberts behave. |
| someonewholikesadam 11.03.2018 02:18 |
BWBW says "Some aren't kids, well I know one isn't a kid :P. If they were kids I'd understand the behaviour a bit more. But I have never seen a fan base in my 20+ years on the internet to behave the way I've seen some Glamberts behave. " But we are a happy group! Most of the Queen fans I see on here are downright crude, nasty, classless and miserable individuals. I've only ever belonged to one "fan base" in my life and I'd hang with the Glamberts over the Queen fans any day! |
| Iron Butterfly 11.03.2018 02:36 |
someonewholikesadam wrote: BWBW says "Some aren't kids, well I know one isn't a kid :P. If they were kids I'd understand the behaviour a bit more. But I have never seen a fan base in my 20+ years on the internet to behave the way I've seen some Glamberts behave. " But we are a happy group! Most of the Queen fans I see on here are downright crude, nasty, classless and miserable individuals. I've only ever belonged to one "fan base" in my life and I'd hang with the Glamberts over the Queen fans any day!Is the fanbase really that happy? I wouldn't say so from what I've seen. I'm sure some are happy however. Happy that AL is the one to sing the Queen songs. But tell me, are they happy about AL's solo music and how it went? If they were happy every excuse in the book would not be given by some of his fans for his lack of success in getting airplay. Everything from homophobia, wrong single choices, payloa, to curse words in his songs have been given for his lack of airplay. I've seen that, and more besides. On QOL no less. Let me ask you this though. If you would rather hang with the Glamberts instead of Queen fans, why are you posting here then? Queen fans are the majority of this board. Very, very few I would label in my years reading this board as the way you are labellng Queen fans above. I think the last one was Medusa...that guy was absolutely cuckoo no doubt in my mind. I don't know why AL fans are here if they find most Queen fans crude, nasty, miserable people...unless clinging to the hope of convincing Queen fans to become AL fans. |
| snifflese 11.03.2018 03:40 |
Wow, if you don't find the Queen fans on this board crude and nasty, I don't know. Just go and read Happy Star and runner and a few lesser denizens of the deep here on this board for the last few weeks. How would you like to be called kitchen help, a hooker, and a witch by people who have no idea who you are? Bet you would love that! Yea, this is really a nice group of friendly folks, you have got to be kidding. This is the nastiest group ever! I have never read such vile, ugly things in my life. The QOL forums are not as bad as they used to be (and never as vile as on here), but they can get plenty ugly also. I have never seen this kind of behavior on the Adam boards I visit. Most of the fans are pretty happy just to have Adam singing and feel that he will always have something that he is doing in the entertainment world. I am not at all worried about his career. It will go where it is supposed to. He's been in the business 9 years now and has made a ton of money and seems quite content with his place in the world. He has a good reputation so that will carry him far. We don't all need to be super stars. |
| Iron Butterfly 11.03.2018 04:59 |
snifflese wrote: Wow, if you don't find the Queen fans on this board crude and nasty, I don't know. Just go and read Happy Star and runner and a few lesser denizens of the deep here on this board for the last few weeks. How would you like to be called kitchen help, a hooker, and a witch by people who have no idea who you are? Bet you would love that! Yea, this is really a nice group of friendly folks, you have got to be kidding. This is the nastiest group ever! I have never read such vile, ugly things in my life. The QOL forums are not as bad as they used to be (and never as vile as on here), but they can get plenty ugly also. I have never seen this kind of behavior on the Adam boards I visit. Most of the fans are pretty happy just to have Adam singing and feel that he will always have something that he is doing in the entertainment world. I am not at all worried about his career. It will go where it is supposed to. He's been in the business 9 years now and has made a ton of money and seems quite content with his place in the world. He has a good reputation so that will carry him far. We don't all need to be super stars.Do you actually think all the Queen fans here are nasty? Quite the sweeping statement you are making saying "the Queen fans". Runner and happystar are two members here, out of how many? Do you even know and have friendships with any Queen fans? Your bubble is AL and Glambert. Thing is about you, you will never admit to being nasty yourself, and you have been. Come back to me when I throw something as serious as homophobia back in the someone's face and call it attention seeking. You aren't so innocent yourself. Am I sorry for some of what I've said? Absolutely, I'm sorry for some of it.. I can't and won't deny I have been harsh. It's all here what I've said. No, you wouldn't see what happens on Queen boards on Adamtopia for example. That place hardly allows free speech or any disagreements that t I've read from there. It's all unicorns and day dreaming. The 'news' on Adamtopia at times especially on slow news days is glamberts trying to figure out who walked Adam's dog, has his house sold yet, and finding out which tweets and other social media things he likes. At least on Queen boards there is other and plenty of things to discuss. So Queen fans win on that score. I doubt you will ever know the kindness of some Queen fans, because I doubt you had, and will ever take the time to get to know any of them outside of AL related topics. Why are you here if you think the Queen fans are so crude etc? Any Lambert fan going to answer that? I know it's to praise, promote and defend Lambert. Some of you can dish it out, but can't take it. I'd rather be called a hooker, kitchen help any day than you throwing things back in my face and twisting nearly every post I make. As for AL's career, I wish him the best. Good luck to him, because after Q+AL is over, that will be one of the biggest tests for him in his whole career. I don't think he will ever top Q+AL. |
| snifflese 11.03.2018 05:35 |
We are talking about Queeen fans on THIS board in particular and QOL which is not friendly, but not as bad as Queenzone. Lately pretty much only you,me, Happy Star and runner have been saying much of anything. You may have noticed not too many different folks post here. Small wonder why! Who wants to be subjected to the two mentioned above and in the past it wasn't much different. I read it but didn't post. How would I ever make friendships with Fans on those 2 boards when they have called me names and been downright ugly since the get go? No one welcomes you or says, Hey, like they do on the Adam forums. I am not interested in the minutiae of Adam's life, that is a little too much for me, but it is a place to find out info and see the latest youtubes which I enjoy. Nothing is going to happen in Adam's life without finding it there! I read it with a grain of salt and find the posters to be pleasant to one another. Here you cannot say anything without numerous people just jumping down your throat and saying rotten things about me or QAL. Who needs that? Actually, the more I think about what I wrote, I realize it is a waste of time and stupidness on my part to even post here. Have fun playing among yourselves. I just read your constant theme of promote, praise and defend Adam. I do think the treatment of him is horrible. I don't get the animus at all. There are folks I don't like but I would never say the things I see here. But what really bugs me is the treatment of Roger and Brian. Brian in particular. I can't understand how anyone can call themselves Queen fans and treat him like that. It just makes me sad for him and I hope he doesn't read the crap here. It would not make him feel very good since it was also his blood, sweat and tears, as you always say. Brian was always my fav member of Queen from the very beginning. There was just something about him that I really liked and I still do. He seems a kind and very good man. I read his blogs and when he tweets and I just never see anything but a pleasant man. I admire him for his rare talent and his educated mind. He is a freaking doctorate in physics on top of everything else. He is keeping up with the kids by playing in the concerts and all the touring. He is a most amazing man and shouldn't be treated as he is by Queen fans. The funny thing is that I have never paid attention to who wrote what, but I recently went to see who actually wrote my favorite songs and lo and behold, most of them were by Brian. WWTLF is my all time favorite as are many of his other songs. I guess he just speaks to me. That is one of the main reasons I went on here. Also the banning of Caroline which I am not going to go into. You may think what you like. I do realize it is pointless and in real life I would never associate with people who are like this. I don't know a soul who speaks or behaves like most of the people here. I shouldn't be here either, so enjoy all your like minded buddies. |
| Iron Butterfly 11.03.2018 06:43 |
snifflese wrote: We are talking about Queeen fans on THIS board in particular and QOL which is not friendly, but not as bad as Queenzone. Lately pretty much only you,me, Happy Star and runner have been saying much of anything. You may have noticed not too many different folks post here. Small wonder why! Who wants to be subjected to the two mentioned above and in the past it wasn't much different. I read it but didn't post. How would I ever make friendships with Fans on those 2 boards when they have called me names and been downright ugly since the get go? No one welcomes you or says, Hey, like they do on the Adam forums. I am not interested in the minutiae of Adam's life, that is a little too much for me, but it is a place to find out info and see the latest youtubes which I enjoy. Nothing is going to happen in Adam's life without finding it there! I read it with a grain of salt and find the posters to be pleasant to one another. Here you cannot say anything without numerous people just jumping down your throat and saying rotten things about me or QAL. Who needs that? Actually, the more I think about what I wrote, I realize it is a waste of time and stupidness on my part to even post here. Have fun playing among yourselves. I just read your constant theme of promote, praise and defend Adam. I do think the treatment of him is horrible. I don't get the animus at all. There are folks I don't like but I would never say the things I see here. But what really bugs me is the treatment of Roger and Brian. Brian in particular. I can't understand how anyone can call themselves Queen fans and treat him like that. It just makes me sad for him and I hope he doesn't read the crap here. It would not make him feel very good since it was also his blood, sweat and tears, as you always say. Brian was always my fav member of Queen from the very beginning. There was just something about him that I really liked and I still do. He seems a kind and very good man. I read his blogs and when he tweets and I just never see anything but a pleasant man. I admire him for his rare talent and his educated mind. He is a freaking doctorate in physics on top of everything else. He is keeping up with the kids by playing in the concerts and all the touring. He is a most amazing man and shouldn't be treated as he is by Queen fans. The funny thing is that I have never paid attention to who wrote what, but I recently went to see who actually wrote my favorite songs and lo and behold, most of them were by Brian. WWTLF is my all time favorite as are many of his other songs. I guess he just speaks to me. That is one of the main reasons I went on here. Also the banning of Caroline which I am not going to go into. You may think what you like. I do realize it is pointless and in real life I would never associate with people who are like this. I don't know a soul who speaks or behaves like most of the people here. I shouldn't be here either, so enjoy all your like minded buddies.So again, why do you or did post here if you find it so bad? Brownie Glambert points? It sure isn't because you are a Queen fan, I dare say. Before you started to post here, things were relatively calm. You came in here like a mad woman wanting me banned from both Queen boards, simply because your friend was banned. You came here throwing your toys out of the pram when you couldn't get what you wanted. Once you became very personal with me and you don't admit that you are a part of the problem, let alone to ever offer an apology. You pretty much are lumping many Queen fans based on the actions of very few, three fans at the most. You barely have interacted with many Queen fans from here and on QOL outside of Q+AL discussions. Think what you want about me, but you missed out on getting to know many good people here and on QOL, you wanted to discuss things with your fellow Glamberts here and use both Queen boards to promote, defend and praise AL. If that's not enough, the posts you have pretty much slammed Freddie and John. I honestly think for you Brian and Roger are there only to back up AL. They are a means to an end for many Glamberts, including you. .As long as AL is singing the Queen songs, all is good. If someone else dares join Brian and Roger onstage, out you come with "that nasty person" as you called Nate. Your true colors really do show sometimes. I'm apalled how insensitive and uncaring you have been towards Freddie, even after reading about how hounded he was before he died. Simply because those fkn tabloids praise AL. I hope those same tabloids never treat Lambert the way they treated Freddie. Freddie couldn't even die in peace for God's sake. I don't think you know or care about that at all. I'd think AL would be horrified if he knew what Freddie went through. AL in a way is very fortunate Freddie helped pave the way for AL. He is fortunate for the chances Brian and Roger gave him, I doubt he would where he is now, personally and professionally without Freddie and Queen. Chew on that for a bit. I don't know why you think I've ever said about Brian and Roger that was so awful in your eyes. Is it because I don't fall hook, line and sinker for everything they say about Lambert? I've got my own mind...I can use it. There's not a person I've ever seen in the public eye that I've agreed with 100%. I'm happy to have made up my own mind. Like I say, only the music itself can change my mind, very been known to change my mind about things regarding Queen and Freddie through the years. Good for you that you like AL so much. Did you really have to write as if you are promoting him here? Yes, I'm absolutely sure he is a good man. I know he does great things for many people. I simply don't like everything about what the man does and says concerning Q+ AL or even his solo career. I don't do that for anyone. Stay here, leave here, that's up to you, I honestly don't expect you to go or stay away. In case you do stay away, I will say this, in my years on the internet, I have had to grow a thicker skin. Try it, or not, that's up to you as well. I wish you the best. |
| runner_70 11.03.2018 08:15 |
Everyone who does not believe the crap Roger (to a less axtent he is happy earning $$) and especially Brian is rude in sniff's mind. Brian May deserves every criticism he gets. He has become sad hippocrite. His blogs are just sad rants of a depressed guy who seems to have lost it. And his statements praising Lamefart and degrading Freddie are simply disgusting. |
| Star* 11.03.2018 09:25 |
snifflese: do yourself a favour and get the hell out of Queenzone. We dont need you preaching shit about a nellie called Adam Lambert who has less talent than peppa pig, so go and get on to your adamtopia shit sites and exchange make up tips with the freak. |
| Voice of Reason 2018 27.06.2018 11:17 |
PMed you my number Inu-Liger! Cheers. |
| Star* 27.06.2018 14:57 |
Runner70: Yes Brian has manipulated Queen to his own liking and making money out the legacy which Freddie created. He often praises Lambert up who has no credibility as a stadium artist, and to be honest if it was not for Queen then Lambert would never get to play the large stadiums because he be in the town halls singing ! Lambert fans on here never use the other Queen threads on here to talk about albums, band members etc.... its all about Lambert so in my opinion they are NOT true Queen fans. |
| SweetCaroline 27.06.2018 15:26 |
Happy, take another look. This is the Queen Tour section of the Queenzone Forum. The only tour right now is the QAL tour so that is why people are posting HERE. |
| Star* 27.06.2018 19:14 |
That is not what i was saying, You girls do not talk on other forums about your favourite Queen albums and join in with the topics, all you natter about is Adam. Queen were 4 extremely talented men who had more about them than just Adam. |
| inu-liger 08.07.2018 22:18 |
Voice of Reason 2018 wrote: PMed you my number Inu-Liger! Cheers.Much belated reply, not that it matters much now that we met up at the show anyway, but “got it,” thank you ;) :) |
| Iron Butterfly 22.03.2020 10:23 |
snifflese wrote: I came to the forums when QAL started to play. I have always loved Queen and bought their records since the 1970's. But I am not a die hard fan that knows everything that they ever did. I never came to the Queen forums until the QAL threads were part of them So don't get in my face about Queen boards as I never posted there and still do not venture onto the Queen threads. I am not knowledgable enough. But, I can and will post in this section and there is nothing wrong with that. Many people became fans of Adam and/or Queen after QAL was formed. That is how one gains new fans, which is one of the great things about this partnership. Freddie is great and he will never be forgotten, but right now what is there to discuss here on this thread? Do you want to compare Adam and Freddie? I doubt that would be a good idea. So, what is there to talk about other than this new formulation of Queen. You have made some pretty scathing remarks about Brian and Roger and you often put up an agree icon when someone else says something. People can infer things from what you write and Freddie and John are the guys you really like, which is fine, but I think some of the crap thrown at Brian in particular is pretty egregious and you are always there agreeing. I don't believe you for a minute about the respect. I am not entitled nor crazy, since I don't worship at Adam's feet and you certainly do at Freddie's. You are have made grand statements about all the things he has meant to you and to your life. Some of it sounds more than a little weird, to be honest. I don't understand fans like that and your scathing remarks make it very clear what your opinions are. Just please leave me alone and answer someone else's comments. I find you more than a little scary!From page 12 of this thread. I'm gonna call you out now. You have many times have stated here on QZ that you have been reading my posts for 10 years on QOL. Here you say you have never come to Queen forums before Q+AL threads. What is the truth, snifflese? You are a liar, like I always thought. No wonder why you and SweetCaroline get on so well, you both are liars. |
| snifflese 22.03.2020 14:51 |
You are the lowest of the low, going around bumping threads and finding old stuff. Do you not have a life? This is a clear indicator of how you go out of your way to cause an argument. You did yourself really proud here! I am not sure how long they have discussed Adam on QOL. It is at least since 2012 when they first played together. But, I am pretty sure they were discussing Adam on those QOL boards since 2009 when he appeared on Idol. So, at whatever time that might have been, (and I have a life, so I don't have time to go digging though old posts and I didn't post back then, just read), at least 8 years and I am pretty sure that it is longer than that. That is how long I have had to read your nasty, sniveling posts that make fun of everyone and try to foment trouble on here like you are with this post.. I only came to the QZ boards much, much later. So, whether it is since 2009 where threads were not labelled QAL or since 2012, I don't know. But whatever, I have been reading your crazy, Freddie obsessed, vindictive, mean posts for way too long. Have you ever heard of the word approximately? Nothing like trying to stir up a controversy so we can all battle for another day. No thank you, as I am not a liar and you are once again, Wrong. |
| Iron Butterfly 22.03.2020 15:05 |
snifflese wrote: You are the lowest of the low, going around bumping threads and finding old stuff. Do you not have a life? This is a clear indicator of how you go out of your way to cause an argument. You did yourself really proud here! I am not sure how long they have discussed Adam on QOL. It is at least since 2012 when they first played together. But, I am pretty sure they were discussing Adam on those QOL boards since 2009 when he appeared on Idol. So, at whatever time that might have been, (and I have a life, so I don't have time to go digging though old posts and I didn't post back then, just read), at least 8 years and I am pretty sure that it is longer than that. That is how long I have had to read your nasty, sniveling posts that make fun of everyone and try to foment trouble on here like you are with this post.. I only came to the QZ boards much, much later. So, whether it is since 2009 where threads were not labelled QAL or since 2012, I don't know. But whatever, I have been reading your crazy, Freddie obsessed, vindictive, mean posts for way too long. Have you ever heard of the word approximately? Nothing like trying to stir up a controversy so we can all battle for another day. No thank you, as I am not a liar and you are once again, Wrong.Bumping threads and finding stuff is the lowest of the low? Are you for real? SweetCaroline and yourself had things to say ab6ut me in the Breaking News...but oh no, let's have you and SweetCaroline lose your shit because of a couple of bumped threads and replies to older posts. You are a hypocrite here. Nah, you are probably embarrassed by the shit you both have posted. You never like to be proved wrong, so of purse you are mad at me. Do you have a life other than bitching me out? You are overreacting. Don't like being called a liar or getting called out, then think twice before what you post. You lied one way or the other. I told you before all your posts are still here. I don't think you like that fact. You claim you have read my posts for 10 years. And you get mad when I bump threads and find stuff from a couple or so years ago. Hmmm. You made up your mind about me even before you ever posted on a Queen board, you didn't take the time to even discuss anything with me. You have had out for me for years obviously. Why? You think I was mean to everyone? That's a switch from when you said I was in with the mods, eh. Lmao. You cant keep your shit straight, so no wonder why you are pissed at me here. Not a surprise. Go fuck yourself you liar and hypocrite. |
| snifflese 22.03.2020 15:29 |
Why would I be embarrassed? You are the one sneaking around trying to make people look bad and vivifying everyone and everything. I own up to what I posted. If I said 10 instead of 8 years, so sorry, but I think it is since 2009, as they were just not called QAL threads back then. Why should I be embarrassed? That is all on you, doing the nasty shit you always do, and this is my last response on the subject. |
| Iron Butterfly 22.03.2020 16:21 |
snifflese wrote: Why would I be embarrassed? You are the one sneaking around trying to make people look bad and vivifying everyone and everything. I own up to what I posted. If I said 10 instead of 8 years, so sorry, but I think it is since 2009, as they were just not called QAL threads back then. Why should I be embarrassed? That is all on you, doing the nasty shit you always do, and this is my last response on the subject.I don't have to make anyone look bad. You make yourself look bad. You have become unhinged on QZ about me because you have a vendetta about me...so much so, you even try to get others to join you. Everyone should know about me and what I do, but what about the shit you have done? What about you taking things from elsewhere to post here I did it for attention? You had no qualms about doing that and more, did you? No, you don't ever own up to what you post and spread about me. You never once took anything back when the countless times you have raged about me. I've seen you go for me, Holly, Brenski, Saint Jiub, anyone you have issues with, and that's just recently. You judge, and you know as for you and SweetCaroline "you people" I'm glad I'm not like you two. You are older than I am, you should know better, but you'd rather point fingers at me as the meanest person you have ever seen...that's the shit you post and state about me, but you rage and bitch about a couple of threads being bumped? Grow the hell up, snifflese. |
| SweetCaroline 22.03.2020 16:32 |
Yes, icy is the lowest of the low and the nastiest of the nasty and everything she gets is in return for the crap SHE dishes out first. She thinks she owns Freddie Mercury and everyone who loves Adam automatically hates Freddie. It is disgusting and beyond ignorant! And on and on it goes because she has absolutely nothing else going on in her pathetic life but to write pages and pages of hate. If it is a slow day who else but her has the time to look back for posts that people wrote 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 years ago? But over on QOL she is back brown nosing, praising, empathizing and sugary sweeting with one exception—the Adam Lambert thread. Her hate and resentment of him knows no bounds. Have fun, icy! I’ve said this many times before but now in these extremely dangerous and stressful times I am totally finished ever responding to your disgusting crap! This is your time to shine because you thrive on the negative, nasty, hateful, depressing and somber aspects of life. |
| SweetCaroline 22.03.2020 16:33 |
Yes, icy is the lowest of the low and the nastiest of the nasty and everything she gets is in return for the crap SHE dishes out first. She thinks she owns Freddie Mercury and everyone who loves Adam automatically hates Freddie. It is disgusting and beyond ignorant! And on and on it goes because she has absolutely nothing else going on in her pathetic life but to write pages and pages of hate. If it is a slow day who else but her has the time to look back for posts that people wrote 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 years ago? But over on QOL she is back brown nosing, praising, empathizing and sugary sweeting with one exception—the Adam Lambert thread. Her hate and resentment of him knows no bounds. Have fun, icy! I’ve said this many times before but now in these extremely dangerous and stressful times I am totally finished ever responding to your disgusting crap! This is your time to shine because you thrive on the negative, nasty, hateful, depressing and somber aspects of life. |
| SweetCaroline 22.03.2020 16:33 |
Yes, icy is the lowest of the low and the nastiest of the nasty and everything she gets is in return for the crap SHE dishes out first. She thinks she owns Freddie Mercury and everyone who loves Adam automatically hates Freddie. It is disgusting and beyond ignorant! And on and on it goes because she has absolutely nothing else going on in her pathetic life but to write pages and pages of hate. If it is a slow day who else but her has the time to look back for posts that people wrote 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 years ago? But over on QOL she is back brown nosing, praising, empathizing and sugary sweeting with one exception—the Adam Lambert thread. Her hate and resentment of him knows no bounds. Have fun, icy! I’ve said this many times before but now in these extremely dangerous and stressful times I am totally finished ever responding to your disgusting crap! This is your time to shine because you thrive on the negative, nasty, hateful, depressing and somber aspects of life. |
| SweetCaroline 22.03.2020 16:33 |
Yes, icy is the lowest of the low and the nastiest of the nasty and everything she gets is in return for the crap SHE dishes out first. She thinks she owns Freddie Mercury and everyone who loves Adam automatically hates Freddie. It is disgusting and beyond ignorant! And on and on it goes because she has absolutely nothing else going on in her pathetic life but to write pages and pages of hate. If it is a slow day who else but her has the time to look back for posts that people wrote 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 years ago? But over on QOL she is back brown nosing, praising, empathizing and sugary sweeting with one exception—the Adam Lambert thread. Her hate and resentment of him knows no bounds. Have fun, icy! I’ve said this many times before but now in these extremely dangerous and stressful times I am totally finished ever responding to your disgusting crap! This is your time to shine because you thrive on the negative, nasty, hateful, depressing and somber aspects of life. |
| Iron Butterfly 22.03.2020 17:21 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Yes, icy is the lowest of the low and the nastiest of the nasty and everything she gets is in return for the crap SHE dishes out first. She thinks she owns Freddie Mercury and everyone who loves Adam automatically hates Freddie. It is disgusting and beyond ignorant! And on and on it goes because she has absolutely nothing else going on in her pathetic life but to write pages and pages of hate. If it is a slow day who else but her has the time to look back for posts that people wrote 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 years ago? But over on QOL she is back brown nosing, praising, empathizing and sugary sweeting with one exception—the Adam Lambert thread. Her hate and resentment of him knows no bounds. Have fun, icy! I’ve said this many times before but now in these extremely dangerous and stressful times I am totally finished ever responding to your disgusting crap! This is your time to shine because you thrive on the negative, nasty, hateful, depressing and somber aspects of life.Hey, SweetCaroline remember when you said nothing is private on the internet...so why the outrage here? It's you who has the hate out of control you have said ore than once on this board, that you hate me. You are batshit and cruel enough to have had a go at me when you knew my parents were sick, and one was dying. You were a hateful bitch for doing that. You are a hateful bitch for always playing the victim and lying about me. No, I'm not the lowest of the low, nor am I the nastiest of the nasty not a very long shot. You don't even say that about a person who posted you should die or kill yourself. Even I didn't and never will go that far to say something like to you or sbout that far, but I'm the lowest of the lowest, you say. Of course to you that's what I am. I don't think I own Freddie, sorry I don't take ownership of him or any other celebrities..nor would I ever want to. I think you want and need to own AL. I've never said everyone who loves Adam automatically hates Freddie. Why do you twist things and lie? I don't think you are a Freddie fan or a Queen fan at all, big difference. You have been on QOL since the new board began, have you posted about Freddie the onend time? Nope. You never did discuss him much, unless you were freaking out what he wore, nis even bare feet and hairy chest bothered you. All the while you are here bigging up and lusting over Lambert You think I get in return because of the crap I dish out first? . Once again, you run to here from QOL to bitch about what you think I post, not even what I post about. Big difference. I dare you to post this utter trash that you are posting here on QOL. How the heck am I brown nosing, being sugary sweet and empathizing? Someone may very well do much to help so many people in the very near future, while you are on your ass raging and crying about what is posted about AL on Queen boards. Even bumped threads, Hmmm methinks someone someone has issues. It's you who should be ashamed of yourself. Brown nosing, praising, empathizing you say about me, when just about the whole world is upside-down? I wonder if sometimes there is any empathy in that body of yours, I'm doubtful there is a shred of it in you. You have no decency, guTSMGO or empathy whatsoever. I've never said I hate Adam, but anything that's not glowing is hate in your mind, right. Yea, I had a long night, had a couple of drinks decided no go back to read and bump a couple of threads. Why are you losing your shit over it? What's your excuse for your post here, SweetCaroline.or anything you do on Queen boards? . Have fun in your fantasy land of Lambert, where you can be his second mother and lust over him at the same time, right SweetCaroline? Yea, you are done, until the next time you want to run here to bitch about what you think I post, and not what I post. As for my time to shine, you don't know what I do outside of Queen boards. Or even outside of Q+AL threads. You live in your small, narrow, fucked up bitter world, SweetCaroline. Try to help people who need it right now and will need it for some time yet, SweetCaroline. You are too busy being insulted and offended by a couple of bumped threads and replies. You should be ashamed of yourself. Go back and read your shit storms you have posted. |
| Saint Jiub 22.03.2020 19:38 |
snifflese wrote: I guess this forum is about grammar now. What a waste of time. I am never going to answer a question again or try to explain anything. |
| snifflese 22.03.2020 20:35 |
You are exactly right, St. Juib. I should just shut up, but Icy gets me going and I don't understand what she is trying to do today with all these things from years ago. I am not a liar nor a hypocrite. Maybe I am off a year, but I have read her stuff on QOL from many years ago. However, she just goes on and on and then says she doesn't understand what I just wrote. Nobody attacked her today or posted anything and suddenly there are all these threads from years ago that are just ridiculous and once again, she calls out SC and me. Why she just can't acknowledge that everyone is entitled to an opinion and Adam fans can post things here, in this one small area of the forum that is not just a Queen section, is beyond me. But her behavior today takes the cake as it is so bizarre, I couldn't help myself, but I didn't write nearly as much as usual. Maybe I will get to my goal of ignoring one day soon! |
| Saint Jiub 22.03.2020 21:55 |
snifflese wrote: You are exactly right, St. Juib. I should just shut up, but Icy gets me going and I don't understand what she is trying to do today with all these things from years ago. I am not a liar nor a hypocrite. Maybe I am off a year, but I have read her stuff on QOL from many years ago. However, she just goes on and on and then says she doesn't understand what I just wrote. Nobody attacked her today or posted anything and suddenly there are all these threads from years ago that are just ridiculous and once again, she calls out SC and me. Why she just can't acknowledge that everyone is entitled to an opinion and Adam fans can post things here, in this one small area of the forum that is not just a Queen section, is beyond me. But her behavior today takes the cake as it is so bizarre, I couldn't help myself, but I didn't write nearly as much as usual. Maybe I will get to my goal of ignoring one day soon!You deny being a hypocrite, but you are hypocritcal in tacitly defending everything that SC does. Occasionally, a Glambert might say that SC is not "perfect", but otherwise gives SC a pass for her spamming as well as her character assassination of Icy. I get that Icy is wordy and repeats herself. However, Icy is not crying wolf about SC's behavior. Too many Glamberts like to ignore the bashing of Icy (while ignoring Gerry & runner), as well as make excuses for SC. |
| Iron Butterfly 22.03.2020 22:13 |
snifflese wrote: You are exactly right, St. Juib. I should just shut up, but Icy gets me going and I don't understand what she is trying to do today with all these things from years ago. I am not a liar nor a hypocrite. Maybe I am off a year, but I have read her stuff on QOL from many years ago. However, she just goes on and on and then says she doesn't understand what I just wrote. Nobody attacked her today or posted anything and suddenly there are all these threads from years ago that are just ridiculous and once again, she calls out SC and me. Why she just can't acknowledge that everyone is entitled to an opinion and Adam fans can post things here, in this one small area of the forum that is not just a Queen section, is beyond me. But her behavior today takes the cake as it is so bizarre, I couldn't help myself, but I didn't write nearly as much as usual. Maybe I will get to my goal of ignoring one day soon!You should have shut up even before the shit you threw my way from your very first 6 that you made here on QZ. I get you going. Well, I'm here and I hope to be for a while yet...which I know you don't like. If I get to you this much, then I'd say this place or any Queen place isn't for you. I bumped a couple of old threads and replied to a couple of old posts...that's what I was doing. You sure have no problem with yourself and SweetCaroline running here to post things that you think happened and happens on QOL, SweetCaroline maid that earlier today...where were you then? I knew you would not be able to help yourself but to reply, and to bitch me out. As if replying to a couple of old threads and a few old posts is somehow criminal...just take a look at your and SweetCaroline’s reactions here today. Thst speaks volumes. |
| snifflese 22.03.2020 22:38 |
The thing is St Juib, that I don't ordinarily see SC ever say anything to Icy unless it is in reply to an attack from Icy. Icy has followed SC for years like a fly on crap and every time SC posts or makes a remark, there is Icy being ugly to her. RC just made that same comment a day or two ago. In my opinion the fault lies with Icy. You all can't stand SC and I think she is pretty benign. I could care less if she brings over tweets or links (which some folks appreciate), at least they are not the nasty missives and complaints that Icy writes. You can scroll over those. Normally when SC posts it is positive. I just do not see this the way you do. Icy pretty much takes on anyone who is favorable to Adam and that will cause a problem when this is supposed to be a place to discuss him and QAL. That is why there can never be any discussion and I don't think one person should be allowed that much power to disrupt everything on here. I have often called out Runner/Gerry, whoever. He/They have not been given a pass by me. In some ways he is less obnoxious than she, because at least I know he hates Adam down to his toes. Icy likes to pretend she is not a hater, but everything she says is unfavorable and downright mean about him. It would be more tolerable if she owned up to her extreme dislike of him. |
| Iron Butterfly 22.03.2020 23:48 |
snifflese wrote: The thing is St Juib, that I don't ordinarily see SC ever say anything to Icy unless it is in reply to an attack from Icy. Icy has followed SC for years like a fly on crap and every time SC posts or makes a remark, there is Icy being ugly to her. RC just made that same comment a day or two ago. In my opinion the fault lies with Icy. You all can't stand SC and I think she is pretty benign. I could care less if she brings over tweets or links (which some folks appreciate), at least they are not the nasty missives and complaints that Icy writes. You can scroll over those. Normally when SC posts it is positive. I just do not see this the way you do. Icy pretty much takes on anyone who is favorable to Adam and that will cause a problem when this is supposed to be a place to discuss him and QAL. That is why there can never be any discussion and I don't think one person should be allowed that much power to disrupt everything on here. I have often called out Runner/Gerry, whoever. He/They have not been given a pass by me. In some ways he is less obnoxious than she, because at least I know he hates Adam down to his toes. Icy likes to pretend she is not a hater, but everything she says is unfavorable and downright mean about him. It would be more tolerable if she owned up to her extreme dislike of him.You are a liar. Who are you trying to convince here, yourself or Saint Jiub? |
| Iron Butterfly 24.03.2020 20:32 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Yes, icy is the lowest of the low and the nastiest of the nasty and everything she gets is in return for the crap SHE dishes out first. She thinks she owns Freddie Mercury and everyone who loves Adam automatically hates Freddie. It is disgusting and beyond ignorant! And on and on it goes because she has absolutely nothing else going on in her pathetic life but to write pages and pages of hate. If it is a slow day who else but her has the time to look back for posts that people wrote 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 years ago? But over on QOL she is back brown nosing, praising, empathizing and sugary sweeting with one exception—the Adam Lambert thread. Her hate and resentment of him knows no bounds. Have fun, icy! I’ve said this many times before but now in these extremely dangerous and stressful times I am totally finished ever responding to your disgusting crap! This is your time to shine because you thrive on the negative, nasty, hateful, depressing and somber aspects of life.Here is is, Saint Jiub. |
| Saint Jiub 24.03.2020 20:54 |
How does talking about illness imply that you are behaving badly on QOL? I guess SC can make up anything bad about you she wants to as it suits her "politics |
| Iron Butterfly 24.03.2020 21:07 |
Saint Jiub wrote: How does talking about illness imply that you are behaving badly on QOL? I guess SC can make up anything bad about you she wants to as it suits her "politicsI have no idea. She's posted on QOL since, but she didn't have the guts to say this over there of course. She did post glowing AL reviews of course. She hasn't posted here since after that outburst of a shit post, but she will be back soon enough. Likely with another link or Trump rant. She won't be sorry of course. You know my username on QOL you are free to look and search over there in the News thread to see if I was brown nosing. Empathizing and praising, hell yes knowing what the world is going through, but that's bad also in SweetCaroline’s eyes. SweetCaroline wasn't kidding when she has no empathy for me, or anyone else it seems. |
| philip storey 08.09.2020 11:59 |
Thankfully i am going to none of the concerts.Instead i like to remember Queen when i saw them with Freddie,Brian,John and Roger five times.I am afraid this currant incarnation of a once great band leaves me cold.Those of you that are going i hope you enjoy the shows and have a great time. |