| mike hunt 31.12.2017 20:28 |
Let the debating Begin! A failed attempt at re creating their biggest album? Or do you consider It one of their best? |
| The Real Wizard 31.12.2017 20:50 |
I wouldn't say it was an attempt to recreate, but the methodology certainly was similar. There was less diversity of genres, but it was no less creative or impactful. The Millionaire Waltz is one of the finest pieces in the canon. But - put a gun to my head and ANATO wins every time. Everything anyone needs to know about Queen is on side 2 of that album. It is perfect. |
| Chopin1995 31.12.2017 21:40 |
^I agree with almost every word. Part 2 of greatness. To me, The Millionaire Waltz is pretty much on the Bohemian Rhapsody level. Perfection on ANATO starts a little bit ealier - from Seaside Rendezvous. |
| c.jory 31.12.2017 21:49 |
Part 2. I always see them as sister albums. |
| Iron Butterfly 31.12.2017 22:06 |
The Real Wizard wrote: I wouldn't say it was an attempt to recreate, but the methodology certainly was similar. There was less diversity of genres, but it was no less creative or impactful. The Millionaire Waltz is one of the finest pieces in the canon. But - put a gun to my head and ANATO wins every time. Everything anyone needs to know about Queen is on side 2 of that album. It is perfect.This. I absolutely agree. |
| dysan 01.01.2018 10:25 |
I've read a couple of times recently people citing side 2 of ANATO being their greatest side. It's not one I stick on much: BR - overplayed, GSTQ - boring GC - filler, LOML - too twee, Prophets Song - sheeesh Side one however... delicious. I think it was discussed quite recently - my opinion is ADATR seems much more 'slight' that ANATO. Trying the same trick again (package / name) was never going to work so it just gets overshadowed for me despite the fact it has a couple of my all time favs. And I've said it before, but having YTMBA 2nd just kills the albums for me. It just stops it dead. ANATO flows. ADATR is too jumpy in that track order. |
| Dim 01.01.2018 10:45 |
ADATR is a masterpiece, many see it very wrong, since the previous album had Bohemian Rhapsody etc. But ADATR has the spirit of Queen II and Anato, it show very clearly how pioneer Queen were, what Queen music is, not just a feeling, or expirience but something more, a emotion! That was their creative phase. In terms of music it needs time for the average listeners to understand. Freddie wrote one of the best vaudeville music. It is classically influenced melodicism of this album. It is not easy album like Queen II and Innuendo. |
| Dim 01.01.2018 10:48 |
ADATR is a masterpiece, many see it very wrong, since the previous album had Bohemian Rhapsody etc. But ADATR has the spirit of Queen II and Anato, it shows very clearly how pioneer Queen were, what Queen music is, not just a feeling, or expirience but something more, a emotion! That was their creative phase. In terms of music it needs time for the average listeners to understand. Freddie wrote one of the best vaudeville music. It is classically influenced melodicism album. It is not easy album like Queen II and Innuendo. |
| Holly2003 01.01.2018 10:53 |
dysan wrote: I've read a couple of times recently people citing side 2 of ANATO being their greatest side. It's not one I stick on much: BR - overplayed, GSTQ - boring GC - filler, LOML - too twee, Prophets Song - sheeesh Side one however... delicious. I think it was discussed quite recently - my opinion is ADATR seems much more 'slight' that ANATO. Trying the same trick again (package / name) was never going to work so it just gets overshadowed for me despite the fact it has a couple of my all time favs. And I've said it before, but having YTMBA 2nd just kills the albums for me. It just stops it dead. ANATO flows. ADATR is too jumpy in that track order.I know you're just giving your own personal tastes but I think it;s a bit unfair to dismiss Bo Rap for being overplayed. There is a reason it's overplayed, and that's because it remains one of the great rock songs of all time. I can't agree that Good Company is filler. The way Brian constructed the guitar orchestra is amazing and that talent is one of the reasons he is admired not just by other guitarists but by virtuosos like Vai and Malmsteen, both of whom, technically, are better players than he is. |
| dysan 01.01.2018 12:02 |
Agreed on both counts Holly. Just personal opinion. In fact, Bo Rap / GSTQ and LOML are in the small club of Queen songs I don't have on my MP3 player despite having all the albums on there for shuffle purposes. RE GC: it can still be filler despite having a lot of work put into it. I was trying to think up an analogy using different London bridges, but it got a bit messy. |
| master marathon runner 01.01.2018 12:06 |
Anato sister piece is all. No failure in trying to recapture. Has some magnificent work on it. Could've even been a double album with ANATO in fact. |
| Pim Derks 01.01.2018 13:51 |
Just imagine if it had actually been a double album. Amazing. SIDE ONE Introduction/Death On Two Legs Lazing On A Sunday Afternoon I'm In Love With My Car You And I Good Old-Fashioned Lover Boy Sweet Lady SIDE TWO You Take My Breath Away '39 You're My Best Friend The Millionaire Waltz Good Company Teo Torriate (Let Us Cling Together) SIDE THREE Somebody To Love The Prophet's Song White Man Love Of My Life Long Away SIDE FOUR Seaside Rendezvous Drowse Tie Your Mother Down Bohemian Rhapsody God Save The Queen |
| Dr Magus 01.01.2018 15:18 |
As someone pointed out recently, ADATR has a little to much vaudeville for my liking. |
| Vocal harmony 01.01.2018 17:45 |
The Real Wizard wrote: I wouldn't say it was an attempt to recreate, but the methodology certainly was similar. There was less diversity of genres, but it was no less creative or impactful. The Millionaire Waltz is one of the finest pieces in the canon. But - put a gun to my head and ANATO wins every time. Everything anyone needs to know about Queen is on side 2 of that album. It is perfect.Absolutely agree apart from that bit where somethings makes me think Races is slightly less bombastic, a little more restrained and a better sounding (warmer?) production, so I tend to go against conventional wisdom and say for me ADATR is slightly better. |
| ANAGRAMER 01.01.2018 20:52 |
In terms of live legacy, BR apart, ADATR has it, especially; STL, TYMD, but ANATO is without doubt a better studio album The problem with ADATR as already pointed out, is the running order imho, more thought could have gone into that; YTMBA is a nice enough song but the album may have been better if it was placed elsewhere, or dropped altogether ...and I don't get White Man....pretty sure BM could have come up with something better I remember getting it when it came out, let's just say it remains in pristine condition |
| dysan 01.01.2018 20:58 |
Like having IILWMC early on side one of ANATO - having Drowse follow a beat after TYMD's last bang would've been nice. |
| The Real Wizard 01.01.2018 21:32 |
Dim wrote: In terms of music it needs time for the average listeners to understand. Freddie wrote one of the best vaudeville music. It is classically influenced melodicism album. It is not easy album like Queen II and Innuendo.Innuendo perhaps, but certainly not Queen II. The arrangements are just as thick and lush (save for the fact that it was done on 16 track instead of 24). The only major difference in the two ensuing years is the accessibility. Well, that and more diversity of genres and a better skill set in maneuvering the studio. But ultimately what makes ADATR the more accessible album is they got better at melody guiding the songs, whereas the arrangements are what guide most of Queen II. I guess it's really a matter of taste. I love both albums, but for different reasons. But I guess my point is that Queen II is no less complex than ADATR, and that's where where similarities end. |
| Iron Butterfly 01.01.2018 21:41 |
Pim Derks wrote: Just imagine if it had actually been a double album. Amazing. SIDE ONE Introduction/Death On Two Legs Lazing On A Sunday Afternoon I'm In Love With My Car You And I Good Old-Fashioned Lover Boy Sweet Lady SIDE TWO You Take My Breath Away '39 You're My Best Friend The Millionaire Waltz Good Company Teo Torriate (Let Us Cling Together) SIDE THREE Somebody To Love The Prophet's Song White Man Love Of My Life Long Away SIDE FOUR Seaside Rendezvous Drowse Tie Your Mother Down Bohemian Rhapsody God Save The QueenI like what could have been done. It would have been brilliant. I'm happy with both albums. These are two of the albums that make me wish I was a fan back then. It must have been incredible to see how popular Queen became at the time. |
| The Real Wizard 01.01.2018 21:48 |
Vocal harmony wrote: somethings makes me think Races is slightly less bombastic, a little more restrained and a better sounding (warmer?) production,Can't argue with that. White Man has a restraint that Prophet doesn't have. Its vision is clearer. But I'll take '39 over Teo Torriatte any day. As gorgeous as the latter is, the former is just perfect. There is more depth to that piece than all of ADATR combined, as far as I'm concerned. Part of the hindsight is knowing that Queen's backs were against the wall while creating ANATO, while ADATR has them happier and more peaceful with having sorted out their business affairs. It's almost always that fire of uncertainty that has an artist create their best work. But of course, such things are never apparent at the time to neither listeners nor the artist. They just create and leave their cerebral side at the door. We really are grasping at straws here. Both albums are magnificent, just for different reasons. |
| The Real Wizard 01.01.2018 21:54 |
Pim Derks wrote: Just imagine if it had actually been a double album. Amazing.The press would have destroyed them. The reviews would've been twice as harsh. ADATR on its own was reviewed as overblown and pompous. I can't imagine how much worse it could've been. But I will give that track listing of yours a shot ! |
| Saint Jiub 01.01.2018 23:26 |
A failed attempt??? Puh-lease ... Good click-bait title though ... I go against conventional wisdom as well (as usual). aDatR has been my favorite Queen album for many years, whereas aNatO has faded out of my top five. At the moment, I comparison rank the songs from favorite to least favorite: SUPERB: 1. Good Company 2. The Millionaire Waltz 3. Somebody to Love 4. Bohemian Rhapsody 5. Teo Torriate EXCEPTIONAL: 6. You Take My Breath Away 7. You and I 8. Tie Your Mother Down EXCELLENT: 9. Lazing on a Sunday Afternoon 10. Drowse 11. I'm in Love with My Car 12. Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy Very Good: 13. '39 14. White Man 15. The Prophet Song 16. Death on Two Legs GOOD: 17. Long Away 18. Love of My Life 19. Seaside Rendezvous 20. You're My Best Friend SUB-PAR: 21. God Save the Queen 22. Sweet Lady |
| SillyGoose 02.01.2018 00:09 |
Sister albums on the surface but... What about option #3 "better than"? I wouldn't go that far but I do think that ADATR is the better sounding of the two (as is the case with every album without Roy Baker). ADATR has a melancholic atmosphere that I just can't find on the other albums, even ANATO. Long Away, Drowse, Teo Torriate and YTMBA come to mind. |
| Jimmy Dean 02.01.2018 04:04 |
ADATR side 1 is my favorite of the 4. it's the one i can listen to without ever getting tired of it. I'm a huge fan of Millionaire Waltz and You & I. Although, I prefer ANATO as a cohesive album due to the weaknesses in Side 2 of ADATR which has a horrible flow in comparison to the other 3 sides. ANOTO's greatest strength is the tracklist - it has an absolutely perfect sequence, in my opinion. While ADATR sounds like a companion piece to the monster - i know this sounds completely idiotic - but I find ADATR has a fresher sound than ANATO. I believe it has to do with the fact that it was self-produced. Failed attempt at recreating ANATO? absolutely. it bombed if that was what they were trying to achieve. But without asking such an obtuse question - you'd never give it a second thought... ADATR is a great Queen album. |
| The Real Wizard 02.01.2018 06:05 |
SillyGoose wrote: ADATR has a melancholic atmosphere that I just can't find on the other albums, even ANATO. Long Away, Drowse, Teo Torriate and YTMBA come to mind....which really is ironic, because these sessions are probably the happiest they ever were in the studio as a unit. |
| Agr123456 02.01.2018 06:59 |
I suppose that a different opinion is needed here... :P I prefer ADATR, for me, much better songs on it. Yes ANATO contains Bohemian Rhapsody, Death On Two Legs, You're My Best Friend and I'm In Love With My Car...But i usually skip songs like Lazing On A Sunday Afternoon, Seaside Rendezvous, Good Company and God Save The Queen. Not a big fan of Sweet Lady, Love Of My Life or The Prophet's Song. I like them but... ADATR sound very near to ANATO but has better songs...My least favourite songs are The Millionaire Waltz and White Man but i don't skip them when i hear this album. ==== I suppose i'm a rare-Queen-fan... Even i prefer solo albums like Blue Rock or Mad Bad instead of albums like Sheer Heart Attack, Queen II or ANATO (which are not on my Top 5)... |
| cmsdrums 02.01.2018 14:05 |
ADATR is my favourite Queen album...just pure joy from end, not a weak track on it, immaculate writing, production and performance. |
| Martin Packer 02.01.2018 15:26 |
What is interesting, but unsurprising, is that we all rate each of the songs differently. It's bloody typical of us. :-) |
| mike hunt 02.01.2018 20:50 |
Panchgani wrote: A failed attempt??? Puh-lease ... Good click-bait title though ... I go against conventional wisdom as well (as usual). aDatR has been my favorite Queen album for many years, whereas aNatO has faded out of my top five. At the moment, I comparison rank the songs from favorite to least favorite: SUPERB: 1. Good Company 2. The Millionaire Waltz 3. Somebody to Love 4. Bohemian Rhapsody 5. Teo Torriate EXCEPTIONAL: 6. You Take My Breath Away 7. You and I 8. Tie Your Mother Down EXCELLENT: 9. Lazing on a Sunday Afternoon 10. Drowse 11. I'm in Love with My Car 12. Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy Very Good: 13. '39 14. White Man 15. The Prophet Song 16. Death on Two Legs GOOD: 17. Long Away 18. Love of My Life 19. Seaside Rendezvous 20. You're My Best Friend SUB-PAR: 21. God Save the Queen 22. Sweet LadyI'm really not click baiting.....Races is a Interesting album in the fact that I hear 2 sides of the argument since I been a Queen fan. On one side I hear It's a strong album and disciplined Like Opera and others say they tried too copy their biggest success and failed, that''s why they went in a new direction with News Of The World. |
| dysan 02.01.2018 21:04 |
I'm not sure they tried to copy it - certainly making part 2 was on their mind primarily because they were totally out of ideas. |
| mike hunt 02.01.2018 21:16 |
mike hunt wrote:Panchgani wrote: A failed attempt??? Puh-lease ... Good click-bait title though ... I go against conventional wisdom as well (as usual). aDatR has been my favorite Queen album for many years, whereas aNatO has faded out of my top five. At the moment, I comparison rank the songs from favorite to least favorite: SUPERB: 1. Good Company 2. The Millionaire Waltz 3. Somebody to Love 4. Bohemian Rhapsody 5. Teo Torriate EXCEPTIONAL: 6. You Take My Breath Away 7. You and I 8. Tie Your Mother Down EXCELLENT: 9. Lazing on a Sunday Afternoon 10. Drowse 11. I'm in Love with My Car 12. Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy Very Good: 13. '39 14. White Man 15. The Prophet Song 16. Death on Two Legs GOOD: 17. Long Away 18. Love of My Life 19. Seaside Rendezvous 20. You're My Best Friend SUB-PAR: 21. God Save the Queen 22. Sweet LadyI'm really not click baiting.....Races is a Interesting album in the fact that I hear 2 sides of the argument since I been a Queen fan. On one side I hear It's a strong album and disciplined Like Opera and others say they tried to copy their biggest success and failed, that''s why they went in a new direction with News Of The World. |
| mike hunt 02.01.2018 21:40 |
The Real Wizard wrote: I wouldn't say it was an attempt to recreate, but the methodology certainly was similar. There was less diversity of genres, but it was no less creative or impactful. The Millionaire Waltz is one of the finest pieces in the canon. But - put a gun to my head and ANATO wins every time. Everything anyone needs to know about Queen is on side 2 of that album. It is perfect.Sums it up for me......I do rate ANATO slightly higher than ADATR, but I Think Races is almost on the same level. Millionaire Watlz is one of the best songs Freddie composed. Not Bo RHap, but still amazing. Wish it got more attention. So I side with sister albums and brilliance part 2. Rating Queen albums is not easy. Every album is different, how do you compare SHA Queen 1 and Races? 3 different sounding albums. Depends on the mood. I guess my list would be Opera, Queen2 are locks for the first 2 favorites, then it gets harder. Say, Queen 1 (love the songs on this one) SHA at 4 Then ADATR and NOTW. That's my top 6. 2nd level albums are The Game, Innuendo and Jazz. |
| Jimmy Dean 02.01.2018 23:04 |
Amazing. It took me this long to realize your name isn’t actually mike hunt. lol Or if it is, it’s awesome ;-) |
| mike hunt 03.01.2018 00:19 |
Mike G.....Hunt is short for Hunter, my nephew, so no hunt is not part of my name. I tried changing the hunt part a few times since he's an adult now, lol. I guess I'm stuck with it. |
| Jimmy Dean 03.01.2018 03:30 |
not sure if we're referring to the same thing. look up your queenzone moniker in the urban dictionary. |
| mike hunt 03.01.2018 04:09 |
Queenzone moniker.....Ok I'll look that up |
| mike hunt 03.01.2018 04:19 |
I'm afraid too look.....don't see that Queenzone moniker....thank god |
| Saint Jiub 03.01.2018 05:16 |
Ok i'll bite ... Jimmy Dean is referring to scene from the movie Porkies. link |
| Sebastian 03.01.2018 05:24 |
It was more like Part 5 of Greatness in my book: other than the titles, it's not *that* similar to its predecessor - in fact, I'd say both 'Opera' and 'Races' are more similar to 'Sheer Heart Attack' than they are to each other. In fact, out of their first six records (before becoming millionaires, before leaving Britain, before John cut his hair and before Mike Stone parted with them), 'Heart Attack' is the most similar to 'Queen', the most similar to 'Queen II', the most similar to 'Opera', the most similar to 'Races' and the most similar to 'News.' It might also be the most similar to 'Jazz' as well... but anyway that's way off-topic. Queen had a formula, and it worked: whatever they did, be it skiffle or blues or vaudeville or even an effing waltz, they did it with their unique craftsmanship and using their extraordinary abilities to make it dynamic. The song came first, and if the song demanded a layered arrangement that's the way it would be, but if the song demanded something sparser that's they way it's be as well. I also think they were sort of getting to know themselves better. 'You Take My Breath Away' is IMO the most Frederick-esque song out of everything he wrote. Not necessarily his best song or his most complicated song but probably the one which is most uniquely him. 'Drowse' is certainly a highlight in Roger's underrated output, as is 'You and I'. Personally, I think Brian was absolutely phenomenal on this album, both playing and singing, and of course writing and arranging. Four tracks, all quite different from each other, all quite detailed and poignant. Sure, I still prefer 'Opera' but it doesn't make this one a bad album, not at all. |
| Makka 03.01.2018 06:51 |
For me A Day At The Races is the better album. Some fantastic musicianship on both albums though. |
| Martin Packer 03.01.2018 10:41 |
I find ADATR less "delicate" than ANATO. Might be the self-production thing. |
| LOTV 03.01.2018 13:44 |
Apart from the obvious connections in title I've never seen them as partners. The recent NOTW review narrative as has tried to paint them as such but I don't see it. I like them both on their own merit and see no more reason to directly compare than I do say Jazz and The Game. Sheer Heart Attack is my favourite album. |
| mike hunt 03.01.2018 16:03 |
Nah, I do think they're connected like twins. From the artwork to the Album title and song structure. I like both as well, but they were smart enough to change direction with the more straight foward News Of The World. |
| mike hunt 03.01.2018 16:16 |
Martin Packer wrote: What is interesting, but unsurprising, is that we all rate each of the songs differently. It's bloody typical of us. :-)I notice that with Queen fans more than other bands I like. I think It's because they wrote so many different styles of songs. I'm, lucky enough too have an open mind. So I love almost everything they did until 1980. But everyone has their limits, and they lost me with Hot Space. The Works was ok but this is when they became a singles band. |
| Sebastian 03.01.2018 17:14 |
mike hunt wrote: Nah, I do think they're connected like twins. From the artwork to the Album title and song structure.But that, again, was more of a common denominator for their 'British Era' (and even later on), so to speak. Their albums tended to have: - At least one strong rock number, usually (but not always) written by Brian, with relatively straightforward harmony and form and which sounded quite powerful live: 'Keep Yourself Alive', 'Ogre Battle' / 'Seven Seas of Rhye', 'Now I'm Here', 'Sweet Lady', 'Tie Your Mother Down', 'We Will Rock You', 'Fat Bottomed Girls', 'Dragon Attack' (sort of), 'The Hero', 'Put Out the Fire', 'Hammer to Fall' / 'Tear It Up', 'One Vision' (sort of), 'I Want It All', 'Headlong'. MIH was a comp so it doesn't really count here. - At least a piano ballad, usually (but not always) penned by Frederick: the slow sections on 'My Fairy King' and 'Black Queen', 'Nevermore', 'Lily of the Valley', 'Love of My Life', 'You Take My Breath Away', 'My Melancholy Blues', 'Jealousy', 'Play the Game', 'Life Is Real', 'It's a Hard Life', 'Friends Will Be Friends' (sort of). That tradition ended in the late 80's, which strongly contributed to the later albums feeling so different. It also skipped the Flash OST, but then again that was a one-off and, to his credit, 'The Kiss' was originally demoed as a piano-driven track. - A prog/rock epic, usually guitar-driven, quite powerful and with clever form and harmony: 'Liar' / 'Great King Rat', 'Father to Son', 'Brighton Rock', 'Prophet's Song', 'White Man' (sort of), 'It's Late' (quite simple harmony though). That one seemed to have ended when they left the UK. - A classical-influenced (or baroque-influenced, or Victorian-influenced) piece, usually (but not always) by Frederick, usually keyboard driven: 'My Fairy King', 'Black Queen' and 'Master-Stroke', 'Lap of the Gods' (the 'other' one), 'Bo Rhap', 'Waltz'. That one ended there although it could be, to some extent, be argued that 'Was It All Worth It' had shades of that. - At least a piece by Roger and at least a piece (with some exceptions such as 'Innuendo' and the first two albums) by John. In that sense, it's not too shocking that 'You and I' resembled 'Best Friend' (though I'd say it was closer to 'Spread Your Wings') and 'Drowse' shared some traits with 'Car' (though they were both IMO far closer to 'Tenement Funster' than to each other). - And so on... |
| Oscar J 03.01.2018 17:43 |
^ In what, if any, of those categories would you put Innuendo (the song)? Seems to fit squarely into the third one to me. |
| Sebastian 03.01.2018 20:49 |
Yes, the third one, defo. |
| PrimeJiveUSA 04.01.2018 05:42 |
Count me with the proud minority that actually prefers ADATR and always has. I love both albums though...I love all of the '70's albums. It's my favorite string of albums from any artist from any era. |
| Martin Packer 04.01.2018 10:33 |
I wonder what the interpersonal dynamics were in the ANATO / ADATR period. Probably more mutually supportive than in the 1980s. Team Dynamics is quite important, in terms of the quality of the product. |
| mike hunt 04.01.2018 20:07 |
I remember one of their producers said they worked more as a team in the 70's than they did in the 80's. I think it showed in their work. |
| The Real Wizard 05.01.2018 05:03 |
Indeed. By the 80s it was all business. They were working separately, had separate limos to the gig, and separate dressing rooms. They never hung out socially unless it was after a gig. But hey, it was after a solid decade of work to climb up to the top. Once you get there, there's only one place to go. And relationships tend to go with it. We've seen the 1977 backstage and studio footage, and the One Vision studio footage. But if there was footage from 1982 or 83, I bet it'd paint a different picture. There's probably a good reason why the cameras weren't rolling. |
| dysan 05.01.2018 10:20 |
How about some other pairs of albums where the 2nd one is considered a pale copy? Sparks - KMH and P (1974) Bowie - Low and Heroes (1977) Blur - Parklife and Great Escape (1994/5) Tindersticks - 1 and 2 (1993/95 Tin Machine - 1 and 2 (1989/91) Are Queen 1 and Queen 2 a pair? If so they buck the trend where the second one is better. |
| Vocal harmony 05.01.2018 12:40 |
The Real Wizard wrote: Indeed. By the 80s it was all business. They were working separately, had separate limos to the gig, and separate dressing rooms. They never hung out socially unless it was after a gig. But hey, it was after a solid decade of work to climb up to the top. Once you get there, there's only one place to go. And relationships tend to go with it. We've seen the 1977 backstage and studio footage, and the One Vision studio footage. But if there was footage from 1982 or 83, I bet it'd paint a different picture. There's probably a good reason why the cameras weren't rolling.This ^^^ Although we should also bare in mind that as the tour budgets increased so did the opportunities to "live" on tour less as a group of people and more as individuals making the experience as comfortable and or fun as possible. Freddie's circle of friends etc could fill a limo without any other band members! So yes there was defiantly an element of them not being as close as they once were, but also an element of practicality |
| mike hunt 05.01.2018 14:03 |
Until the last year....then I think they got close again and worked together. You could hear the results on Innuendo, really good album. Especially the title track. Vintage Queen all over again. It was all about the music again and It showed. |
| *goodco* 05.01.2018 18:01 |
ANATO and ADATR are like having 'Sgt Pepper' and 'Abbey Road' back-to-back. 1A and 1B as far as quality, each exceptional in their own rite. I think back to the day, and the one thing that stood out on ADATR was no 'medley' or crossfades or instant transition from one tune to another. Personal tastes: I love side one of Queen II, sides two of SHA, ANATO, and NOTW.....but side two of ADATR always gets the nod as my favorite album side. |
| cmsdrums 05.01.2018 18:06 |
dysan wrote: How about some other pairs of albums where the 2nd one is considered a pale copy? Sparks - KMH and P (1974) Bowie - Low and Heroes (1977) Blur - Parklife and Great Escape (1994/5) Tindersticks - 1 and 2 (1993/95 Tin Machine - 1 and 2 (1989/91) Are Queen 1 and Queen 2 a pair? If so they buck the trend where the second one is better.Bon Jovi - Sluppery When Wet / New Jersey. You can almost translate each track over from one to the other! |
| mike hunt 05.01.2018 19:25 |
How are Queen 1 and 2 a pair? They sound nothing alike. Queen 1 is a Cream/Zep influence. Straight forward hard rock record. QUEEN 2 Was originally named "over the top" for a reason. |
| dysan 05.01.2018 20:41 |
yeh lol |
| Holly2003 05.01.2018 20:54 |
cmsdrums wrote: Bon Jovi - Sluppery When WetI prefer that name to the original title :) Slappery When Wet is also good. |
| PrimeJiveUSA 06.01.2018 04:49 |
RTB said that relations were not very good during the making of Jazz and there was a lot of separatism. |
| dysan 06.01.2018 08:26 |
Away from home and too much coke will do that. Perhaps that's why it's their first truly insane album? |
| ITSM 09.01.2018 12:33 |
A Day at the Races is my favourite album of them all. Good Old-fashioned Lover boy is my favourite song, along with My Fairy King. A Night at the Opera starts pretty good, but then a bit boring. It annoys me that it's concidered their greatest album by most people outside this forum. |
| The Gooch 09.01.2018 15:02 |
It's a success in my book, my favorite album. |
| mike hunt 09.01.2018 15:33 |
ANATO is brilliant....everything came together on that album. Mercury went from a very good singer to a great one, he found his voice. Of course he was great on the first 3 albums as well, but Opera was a step above for him. The only thing that annoys me is that Opera is the only album gets It's due respect. ADATR, SHA, Queen 1 and 2 should be on every Greatest albums list. Not only Opera. |
| cmsdrums 10.01.2018 20:05 |
Holly2003 wrote:Whoops! Think my fingers must have slupped on the keyboard! :-)cmsdrums wrote: Bon Jovi - Sluppery When WetI prefer that name to the original title :) Slappery When Wet is also good. |
| Holly2003 11.01.2018 22:08 |
cmsdrums wrote:Could be a Freudian Slup? :)Holly2003 wrote:Whoops! Think my fingers must have slupped on the keyboard! :-)cmsdrums wrote: Bon Jovi - Sluppery When WetI prefer that name to the original title :) Slappery When Wet is also good. |