QueenZone discussion #1498828

SweetCaroline wrote: link

SweetCaroline wrote: Icy, I’m not the one who bitches on QOL, and you know it. I was banned for being too positive!

SweetCaroline wrote: Icy, go back to QOL and take my regards with you especially to the Thunder fan you like to brown nose with. When I repeat a link it’s because it didn’t work the first time where you can click on it and go right to the item you are linking. Go pester the QOL people because they really “love” you over there!

SweetCaroline wrote: You have never done it, Icy. Angel has been providing the QAL links for QOL because no one else, including you, are doing it over there since I am gone so STFU. How is it you know all about other people being banned, when their bans are over, etc? I never told you that! I’m the only Adam fan who stuck it out over there despite the negative crap being dished out. Like Adam, I speak glowingly about Freddie but it is never enough!

brunogorski wrote: lol nice discussion ?

SweetCaroline wrote: Happy New Year, Queen and Adam fans! Looking forward to the next leg of this tour! Icy, you must have a photographic memory because you remember everything I have posted long after I have forgotten it! I guess I did mention December 30th. JLP obviously didn’t want me to post during the EU/UK tour. BTW the photo I posted of Adam, his brother and nephew was not private. It was posted on Facebook.

SweetCaroline wrote: That pic came up on MY Facebook. I wasn’t looking for it. If something is on the Internet it’s NOT private!

SweetCaroline wrote: Hey scottmax, you have 389 posts here and I have 1374! YOU eff off!!!!!

snifflese wrote: Wow, some of you folks are something else. This is my first post, but I have read things here for a long time and on QOL. I just don't get the animosity towards Sweet Caroline. Ok, she does post a lot of Adam spamming, but so what? This IS a QAL thread and it is about one of the band members, so give her some slack. I am not sure what the really intellectual conversations have been, as I haven't seen too many of those from anyone! I would like to say, however, I think something needs to be done about Butterfly gal, aka, Icy. She is a cyber stalker and the biggest bully I have ever seen when it comes to trolling around after Sweet Caroline. That is someone who not only often doesn't understand what was said, but she just spews venom. She ought to have been banned on QOL, not Sweet Caroline who always is complimentary of Freddie and Queen. That lady likes nothing at all about Adam and the current Queen configuration, so why post here? Go to a Freddie and old Queen thread. She has absolutely nothing interesting to say and keeps spewing the same crap about bans and things Caroline did not do, as I have been reading at QOL for years and posted occasionally. Something needs to be done about her. She has no added value to any of the discussions! She likes anything but QAL, doesn't matter if they sound like a braying donkey and can't sing, they are going to get her approval and I am tired of reading her rants. Normally, I just disregard, but there are so many on every thread today, saying the same thing about Caroline, I thought I should say something. That is my rant. She needs to go!!

scottmax wrote: Sweet Caroline above.......

snifflese wrote: That is just what I mean with your nasty language and bullying. You twist everything around and try to play the martyr. I don't use your language and constantly abuse people. The only reason you are still on QOL is that the handful of you naysayers are all in synch. There is no one left to post because it is just a waste of time! All of you, except for a few folks, for the most part hate Adam and actually don't seem to care for Brian nor Roger. Which is fine, everyone is entitled to an opinion. My problem is the nasty way in which it is done and that Caroline seems to be the whipping boy or girl, both here and there. You don't allow anyone else to have a different opinion, that is the problem. It is one thing to have a different opinion and talk about it sensibly, but it seems to devolve into name calling and nasty language very quickly and it is on your part and the die hards on QOL. I don't post there much at all as there is no point. There are no interesting comments and I already know what you all think. You people jump on every little thing (forgetting a few lines a couple of times - like Freddie wasn't so out of it that he forgot stuff - there are just no videos!!) and talk about it ad nauseum, but when a tour or concert is obviously a huge success (look at the twitter and facebook and Ticket master reviews, they are well over 95% positive). And no, Icy, Adam's looks are not the main focus, it is usually a comment about Adam's amazing voice. You never see someone's voice mentioned in reviews, but Adam's is so rare, that a large majority of the responses I have read, mention the voice!!! Millions of folks have seen QAL over the last 5 years and it has been a resounding success and as Adam grows into his role and is comfortable with the guys, it gets better and better. Never see that mentioned on QOL! Talk about butthurt Glamberts, that is like the pot calling the kettle black!

SweetCaroline wrote: snifflese to the rescue! Thanks, smart lady! Yes, the bully/stalker followed me here again to this unmoderated forum because she has to be careful at QOL! I don’t care! I am proud to be a fan of Queen and of Adam and so glad these guys found each other. It is a match “made in heaven!”

snifflese wrote: I have absolutely no clue what you are trying, but failing, to say, Icy. How are Queen songs bolstering our POV? What does that even mean? Is a match made in heaven a Bible verse, don't think so!! If one wanted an unbiased assessment of a concert, book, or movie, one would go to tweets, youtube comments, articles,reviews, and comments on facebook to see what the majority opinion was. I sure wouldn't go and read what Icy, Fairy Dandy, JP and the Milkman on QOL had to say. I'll tell you that! Of course you go to the above mentioned!!! I have been to all of the above and I am telling you that the vast majority are glowing remarks about QAL. I am sure they are over 95% positive. The longer they play together, the better they get and the more glowing the reviews are. There was not one bad review that I saw this time. It seems critics and concert goers alike were very happy. They love seeing Brian and Roger having so much fun, hearing the great Queen music (probably wouldn't appreciate the unusual songs, they want the hits!), and they love hearing Adam sing. Even people on QOL (hotspace I think or Dave) even said that you can't critique what you haven't seen. A concert is not a book or movie and a youtube just doesn't cut it. It is not like being in the venue with lights all over the place and music swarming around and the excitement of the crowd. All of that makes the experience!

snifflese wrote: I am only stating my POV because I have seen you cut down Caroline for ages on QOL and I have seen the same recently on here. I was just tired of it and felt like I should say something. I don't like bullies and people who have no taste for other people's opinions without being extremely nasty about it! No one wants to change your POV, but you need to treat other folks in a civil manner and that you seem to be incapable of. That is what upsets me and I think it needs to stop. That is my view!

SweetCaroline wrote: This is for Icy in case she missed it: Maybe she should holler at Norman Humal for posting it.

SweetCaroline wrote: Wow, Icy, chill out already. That pic that you insist was private popped up on my Facebook feed from a group calling themselves Adam Lambert Fan Club.

snifflese wrote: The best thing, Icy, would be to quit all the nonsense about the ban and Sweet Caroline and the picture and everything else you go on about. No one cares about that stuff. If you want to discuss as you say you do, cut all the garbage out. Ranting about those things is all you ever do! Make it about the music. You are entitled to like who you do, but calling people liars and that they are out to get you is just not right. You go on and on about stuff no one cares about. I have never seen Caroline say anything to you like what you write about her. After you have goaded and goaded her,she might have a choice word, but she never initiates anything. I would be furious if someone was always nitpicking at me. If you would stop that, all would be well. To each his own!!

snifflese wrote: Yea, I did pick at you in my first post because I am sick of reading all the same garbage on QOL and now here, that you somehow think is interesting to everyone else. It just isn't. Where am I bigging up AL ?I have never heard that expression in my life but I assume you mean praising him? I am not sure that saying the tour has been a huge success and saying that he has a great voice is bigging him up .Those would be two discussion points which could be discussed on a board like this. The problem is that anything that praises QAL is bigging them up and that is your problem because all you like to hear is the negative. I am allowed to say the tour is successful and he has a great voice. That is not some crazy praise. In my mind and the majority of concert goers (which does not include you and that is part of the problem as you have not experienced how wonderful the concert is!) it is a fact. Laudatory comments are allowed on a QAL thread and that is not bigging AL up. If you got that idea out of your head, this board would be much less argumentative. Go post on a board that mainly discusses Freddie and Queen. It would be more peaceful here and your blood pressure would probably be better. Mine would too, since I am sick to death of reading the same garbage you spew in every post. I have never read one interesting thing in the hundreds of posts of yours that I have had the misfortune of reading over the years. Maybe you might want to think about that, instead of complaining about everything under the sun and somehow making it all about poor you! Have something interesting and worth talking about for a change!

scottmax wrote: Now who’s bullying........

SweetCaroline wrote: Icy, go back to QOL and take my regards with you especially to the Thunder fan you like to brown nose with. When I repeat a link it’s because it didn’t work the first time where you can click on it and go right to the item you are linking. Go pester the QOL people because they really “love” you over there!

SweetCaroline wrote: Miss Bait and Switch Icy, you have a lot of nerve telling ME how to act. The reason I and others get banned is that you never leave us alone and you must always have the last word and you just keep going on and on and on and on. New Year Resolution: Avoid and ignore Icy no matter what!

scottmax wrote: Sweet Caroline or whatever your fucking name is.........FUCK OFF!!!!!

snifflese wrote: At this point no one cares who was banned or why they were banned. It is a new year. Could you please refrain from bringing it up again? It is last year's news!!!

SweetCaroline wrote: Yes, well said!

snifflese wrote: That would be great if we could get it over with. Who knows what happened. With the moderator over there it is sometimes tough to tell. I do think they play favorites and some can say whatever they like and then others get warnings and are banned. But that is the way it goes and we all know that. Even one of the regulars was saying that today. Playing nice is just so much better!!! Everyone has an opinion and everyone is entitled to it! But, I don't see the point of posting in a thread when everyone knows the poster hates the person because it is just the same old stuff. Then it devolves into ugliness!!

snifflese wrote: That would be great if we could get it over with. Who knows what happened. With the moderator over there it is sometimes tough to tell. I do think they play favorites and some can say whatever they like and then others get warnings and are banned. But that is the way it goes and we all know that. Even one of the regulars was saying that today. Playing nice is just so much better!!! Everyone has an opinion and everyone is entitled to it! But, I don't see the point of posting in a thread when everyone knows the poster hates the person because it is just the same old stuff. Then it devolves into ugliness!!

SweetCaroline wrote: link

SweetCaroline wrote: It’s almost time for the tour in New Zealand and Australia to begin.

Vocal harmony wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: It’s almost time for the tour in New Zealand and Australia to begin.

Almost time, its over four weeks away. Christmas 2018 is almost here as well.

SweetCaroline wrote: Yes, we know that 40 years isn’t enough rehearsal time for Brian and Roger !!!!!

SweetCaroline wrote: AL is fine, too! Probably near 200 shows with QAL and performing on stage since age 10 !!!!

SweetCaroline wrote: Also, AL doesn’t get stage fright like Adele. Unlike her, Adam is a born entertainer!

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam is magnificent!

SweetCaroline wrote: I heard they are going to add TATDOOL at all 10 shows just for you, Icy! LOL

SweetCaroline wrote: I know everything about that song and video and have seen it performed in person by Roger. I am mocking you about it on purpose because you have been so outspoken and unsupportive of what he and Brian have decided is best for these tours. Yes, you have a right to express your opinion, but your lack of support for them appalls me!

snifflese wrote: It sounds like Icy wants to personally chat with Brian and Roger about every decision they make. I guess they need to check every detail with her and make sure it's OK. That includes rehearsal time and finding out which member of the band approved what itty bitty detail of the show. Only then will it be a good enough show for Her Majesty! I am glad it is more than good enough for the peons and serfs who attend the show and are just happy to hear whatever is played!

SweetCaroline wrote: TATDOOL is not the only Queen song that deserves to be played and praised for its touching tribute to Freddie, Brian, Roger and John. The whole show deserves that label but you evidently don’t get that from watching individual taped videos and picking them apart!

SweetCaroline wrote: BTW there is no DOOL in this list: link

SweetCaroline wrote: Yes, I’m pointing out that TATDOOL is a Queen song and DOOL isn’t. I’m more of a Queen fan than you are because I don’t criticize them like you do!

SweetCaroline wrote: Thanks, snifflese!’ Icy has the folks at QOL convinced that CNB is the bad guy over there. Soxtalon said that there was 95% less vitriol while I was “on vacation” implying that I am the troublemaker. I guess he doesn’t know that icy followed me here with her vitriol and when I returned to QOL she followed me back there again. The thread was at page 5 and went up to 21 thanks to Icy fighting with everyone!

snifflese wrote: You make absolutely no sense whatsoever. How does not being hung up about one particular song mean that we are Bigging AL up, as you so weirdly put it??? Everything that is said is somehow to puff Adam up?? We are simply saying that the omission of one song does not ruin the total concert for us. Most reasonable people can still enjoy the concert. I am not sure how that plays into your conspiracy theory of Caroline wanting to praise Adam. This is Roger's song and he will choose to sing what he wants to and it has nothing to do with Adam. It simply makes no sense, just like all the dirivel you spew. You are the one that starts with your nastiness and calling people out. If you wouldn't attack Caroline for everything she says, there would be no issues .You have "ULTIMATE OBSESSION" with Freddie, let me tell you. Even when a comment is made that really does not even pertain to Freddie, there you are always protecting, attacking, and "bigging him up"!! Look at yourself before you always criticize others!

snifflese wrote: I saw that, as I read and very occasionally post there. Someone needs to point Soxtalon over here and see who is bullying whom. Maybe you should mention that he needs to look at a few of these threads over here. I don't understand why Icy responds like she does. Nobody is attacking Freddie, nobody is always praising AL, but it is a QAL thread and Adam is going to be mentioned. How can he not be? Icy keeps saying she is a Queen fan but that is not what I have seen. She is a Freddie and maybe John fan and that is because they are not part of QAL whom she detests, no matter how much she says otherwise. Just like her "I'm a fan of the guy", which is her response about Adam. Thanks goodness there are not many fans like her. Adam would be in huge trouble. I have been a Queen fan since my early 20's in the early 70's, probably way longer than she has been a fan, but i am not just crazy about Freddie and his accomplishments, forgetting the contributions of all of them. He was but one part of Queen. There would be no Queen without the others. I am thrilled that two old rockers can keep doing what they love and found a great singer to bring it to new fans. I just don't get her animus and constant picking about the same 2 or 3 tiny things she always brings up. Two bad there were no videos to see how often Freddie messed up when he wasn't firing on all cylinders, which happened quite often if what I have read is true! I didn't see them live, but I am sure there were lots of mistakes and so what, who is counting? Just like now, who cares if there was a lyric flub or a string that broke or that Brian felt poorly. We are lucky just to get to see them play!! We are all grownups and should behave as such!!!

snifflese wrote: You are a basket case to say the least. I have no idea what kind of Queen fan you have been. I have read on the Queen forums for many years now and it is always about Freddie and" Let's not forget John". You really have had ugly things to say about Brian and Roger through the years. My language comprehension skills are right up there and you have shown very little respect for them and this goes back for quite a few years. I would guess since 2012 and QAL, since I didn't know about Queen forums before that. So, I do wonder about the "Queen" fan, as Queen is all four gentlemen, not just the two (particularly Freddie) that you fixate on. I have no idea about any bans except Caroline's ban and I never said multiple bans were your fault. Don't know a thing in the world about that and why you think I said that, don't know that either. I do think her last ban had a lot to do with you, as you always go after her. You don't get banned because you are thick as thieves with the mods and the naysayers, which is what you people are, on QOL. If one has a different opinion, there are nasty remarks from the "crew" and they can say whatever they like, in crude terms, but Caroline gets a ban and others get warnings. Yes, if she was banned, you were the flip side and should also have been banned. No, it doesn't hurt my feelings if you say Adam messed up. So what, it is live music! What I object to is that you have probably said it 100 times. We all get it at this point! I have nothing to do with bigging Adam up or hurting/ helping his reputation. What in the world do you even mean by that??? How does someone posting on a message board accomplish those things? Adam's reputation is what he makes it and I would say that his reputation is that he is a very lovely young man who is an exceedingly hard worker and people who work with him always say how nice he is. He also has an amazing voice whether or not you like what he sings. That is an established fact by way too many music teachers and opera people and directors who work with him and others who sing. There is nothing I can really add as a single fan and I usually don't. It is you and your meanness that bugs me to no end! You are the only reason I am posting here, as I don't think I had posted before. It has nothing whatsoever to do with Adam. I do find that you never say anything of substance. I laugh when you talk about "discussing", as all you do is call people out and then ask loads of questions of people, but never have anything to say yourself. You have about 5 tired things that you repeat whenever someone gets on you and that is the extent of your "discussions". Your POV is: (1). Brian and Roger shouldn't be doing this with Adam. They should go it alone (even tho' they could never keep that up at their age and the interest might not be there for accoustic performances with just the two of them). or sing with ANYONE else, because it would be better with anyone but Adam. There have been ridiculous names put forth on QOL and you are always positive about them and say they would be great. Some of the candidates for lead singer couldn't carry a tune in a bucket! I have listened to every video you people post and some are abysmally bad, just the wrong voice for Queen! BUT you always agree that they are wonderful!! You have no respect for the original band members and their opinions and what they choose to do. (2). Queen is Freddie, through his writing, his musicianship (and it is to a great extent) and his blood, sweat and tears, and he was ill and you go on and on about this video and how amazing it was. He was amazing, but he was not the only member of Queen. My favs have always been Roger and Brian and Brian's songs have always appealed to me the most for whatever reason! At this point if Brian and Roger wanted to play on, Adam is the only choice. I saw you wrote some crap about Glamberts who think AL is the reason for the big success. Hate to clue you in, but he is! It has been so successful because Adam can sing the whole gamut of Queen music and they just jell They love to perform together. There is no one else who can sing it all. Maybe a rocker could do some of the heavy stuff better, but OVERALL Adam can sing it all. They are a really good fit and if the show is different, it is now many years later and it will be different with a different singer. It is Queen's show and not Icy's and they can sing and do whatever they choose. I might like a song or two they don't ever do, but I don't call the whole show awful for that reason. Their catalog is so vast, they could never satisfy everyone! To get back to the original thought, they would not be doing this if Adam wasn't part of it and there have been many interviews where Brian and Roger have said just that. It is not just my POV!! Queen is about way more than just your beloved Freddie at this point! (3). You whine and whine and whine about the same crap until people want to scream and that was mentioned in slightly different terms at QOL this weekend. There are a number of posters who would like to post, but they get tired of the "feud" and how you drone on about the same inconsequential things!!! (4). You are the only person with a POV and if someone's else has a different one, you are just nasty. No one agrees all the time, but people can be civil, but you make it impossible! That is how I feel. I don't want it my way. I"m not sure what my way is, but I get tired of reading constant slights and snips and nasty language from you. I told you that the first time I posted and you still don't get it. You must be a very lonely person as anyone that combative on-line can't be fun to know in real life. At least I know Caroline is a cheerful, kind person. She keeps coming back no matter what and is pleasant until she just overloads from you and she isn't even really nasty then! Take a long look at yourself and your obsession with hating Adam and anyone who has a kind word about him. Half of the time Caroline is talking about the other band members or the show in general, but it is annoying when so much crap is heaped on Adam all the time! He is not taking anything away from your precious Freddie. He will be a footnote on Queen's legacy, that is it. Nothing to be so defensive about! Do you understand my POV???

snifflese wrote: You are a nasty piece of work and obviously not worth answering, as you don't comprehend at all what someone else is trying to tell you. Dumb cow, really!! Talking about yourself? You might as well be, because anyone who is intelligent or nice, simply isn't going to chat with you! Have fun hanging with the negative naysayers! I would rather have a positive spin on things and try to be nice! You are a lost cause! Too bad Soxtalon doesn't see your true nature, which they don't allow on QOL. He might be surprised!

SweetCaroline wrote: snifflese, Icy has to have the last word. She baits you into continuing to respond to her and over at QOL if you keep responding to her, her Thunder friend will ban you because he hates Adam as much as she does!

Stick wrote: How deluded must one be to get banned on a forum by moderators and still blame it on other posters on that forum. It either displays a complete lack of understanding of how forums work, or it implies believing in a conspiracy between posters and moderators. Apart from that there is no reflection upon ones words and / or actions, trying to figure out if maybe, just maybe, it was deserved. I can't be the only one who spots the sheer arrogance and stubbornness this attitude entails. A not uncommon side effect of such a deluded mind is attacking other posters with conclusions based upon sheer assumption of their motivation for posting something, because the deluded mind can't handle and won't accept the words of others at face value. Exaggeration, flat out lying, childish comparisons and more are used to distract from the fact that the deluded mind can't and won't engage in a rational discussion with proof based arguments for fear of self-confrontation. A huge psychological weakness which a lot of people on earth have but becomes most evident when posting on the internet. Know who you really are, know how you really behave and how it comes across and above all, know why you have grown to be like this. It requires a brave and open mind to really examine yourself and accept what you find and sadly most people aren't that brave. They just keep doing what they do and keep telling themselves that whatever happens is the fault of others or of people conspiring against them. So many rational eyes are watching them post and post and post, seeing them exactly for what they are but they remain blissfully ignorant of their own irrational behavior. Like monkeys in a zoo. I congratulate Icy upon keeping up the hard work in trying to reason with them. It's a lost battle of course as I have previously explained but it does provide more and more material for other readers to know exactly why to avoid these types of people. Have fun y'all!

SweetCaroline wrote: Stick, just to let you know, I am not deluded and I am not the person who stalks people from one internet site to another to bully them!

snifflese wrote: Thanks, Sparkles! I appreciate that! I am really not a nasty lady, but I have been extremely upset about Icy continuing her QOL antics here. I don't understand why there is so much animus towards anyone who likes QAL, but most especially towards CNB. It is stalking and that is what I told Icy in my first post here and it was the only reason I commented. She has gone after me here now and to a much lesser degree on QOL (I haven't posted there a lot, but sometimes I do and it is never pretty!), so I know how Icy is, but this situation is not good at all. I think ignore is a wonderful idea! It is a shame people can't discuss the collaboration without everyone getting their panties in a wad. QAL in no way detracts from the original Queen, it is an offshoot and wonderful that Queen music is out there all over again! I love Adam's voice, as it just speaks to me. Everyone is entitled to like who they like, And I love QAL! On a QAL thread there should be no problem with that remark! I agree with the Psych study!!!!

SweetCaroline wrote: Sparkles, so true! I should have left QOL a long time ago but I am stubborn. I was met with nastiness the first time I posted there because they have resented and demeaned Adam from the beginning. The ones who have gone to a QAL show have changed their tune but the ones who haven’t gone are still convinced that Adam cannot sing rock and is a bad fit. I have definitely been banned for being positive instead of negative and responding too much to you know who!

snifflese wrote: But who really cares after all this time!! What a waste of space to keep yapping about it!!! If that is all you have to concern yourself with, you a lucky lady! Most people have far more important issues to worry about. After 6 mos or so, the issue is over!

Stick wrote: Sweetcaroline, yes you are. You are everything I talked about and it's there for all to see on both forums. Nothing more and nothing less. People have been right about you from the start.but you just can't see it. You are one of those people who's had many, many chances in life to re-examine your way of looking at things but constantly ignored it and now it's too late. Your personality has grown and grown until it's simply stuck this way because of age and how our brains work. Everybody makes mistakes, more so in our youth if all goes well, but learning from them and admitting you were wrong becomes more and more difficult if you keep ignoring this very important fact of mental development. Maybe your parents kept telling you how great you are and that other people are morons, maybe you've made such important mistakes in the past that it blocked your view of yourself in the future, maybe you've been too alone for far too long, who knows. But whatever the case may be, you are stuck in your ways based upon life experiences that were never closely examined by you. This is who you came to be after years and years of moving forward without looking back or even thinking about what your past meant in relation to you. It's far from uncommon but a real pain in the ass for others to deal with. Ever seen an interview where the answer given isn't related to the question at all and it seems that the person that gave the answer is completely unaware of that fact? You have long since become that kind of person. You can't see it and if you could you would be different. This is not rocket science but psychology 101. My reason for posting this stuff is because one of the factors involved in such a development is a lack of people who try to make you aware of this. Once in a while someone has to tell you this because maybe, if it's pointed out often enough, there might still be a small chance that some of this will get through to you. It could only lead to self improvement. But usually. the people who bring this stuff up are seen as bastards who just want to criticize which is not that surprising because it's the way the person has always handled stuff like this. Ignore, it's not me it's you etc. The internet is full of it but it's always other people right? It can't be because of you right? And so we ramble on, day after day, night after night. Never knowing exactly who we are and why things happen to us. Yes, it takes a lot of effort and pain to break free from it, but in the end it's more than worth it. A clear view of yourself, other and the world (even if you don't like what you see) is more freeing than you can imagine right now. It's never perfect but every step forward is one to be proud of. Taking no steps at all or denying that not even one is needed is, in fact, deluded.

snifflese wrote: Hey Stick! I honestly thought you were writing about Icy, esp. when you went into the part about not realizing the answer had nothing to do with the question. Bingo!!! Interesting to see several folks looking at the exact same situation and walking away with completely different perspectives. I guess we will have to cordially agree to disagree! One last remark to Icy. It was not that I thought only she should be banned at QOL, just that if CNB was, then I thought she was the other precipitating factor. If neither was banned, that would be OK, too. I didn't feel it was fair that just one of them got banned! Just to make sure she understands I was not after her alone. It was either all or nothing!

snifflese wrote: You are right, I read what I wrote and I neglected to put in the too! (I meant to!) If one deserved it, then the other one did also and I stand by that, as you always say!

SweetCaroline wrote: One month from today QAL is back — down under!

snifflese wrote: You are harassing and baiting!! They are not the same board and who cares! Why do you have to say anything? Then you complain when someone calls you out and it is your own behavior that dictates that!!

SweetCaroline wrote: One month from today QAL is back — down under!

Vocal harmony wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: One month from today QAL is back — down under!

What no link to Adam Lambert in his pink jacket? And didn't you post something earlier about it being just over a month away? Guess we're due another soon saying less than a month away!

SweetCaroline wrote: Icy, I see you are pulling your old bait and switch routine again over at QOL. Sorry, I’m not going to fall for it again. Go ahead with your criticism and bullying. I know what you are up to!

SweetCaroline wrote: Ha! Ha! I knew it wouldn’t take long for you to follow me here! LOLOL

SweetCaroline wrote: Icy, why must you always have to get the last word on every forum? Try letting it go once in awhile. You do that with me and everyone! Let it go already!

snifflese wrote: Is there maybe a problem with people who always "promote, defend, and protect Freddie?" I think it is creepy that you act as Freddie's personal savior all the time. How is that any different than Caroline? You take umbrage at everything. If Brian put the stupid crown on Adam's head, then they must think he should be wearing it. If that means they think he deserves it, so what? Why would that bother you? Why don't you e-mail Brian and pose these questions to him? Also the question about why Adam is singing the end of WWTLF? I guess Brian and Roger think it is time and instead of browbeating Caroline, who certainly doesn't know, go ask Brian and Roger. They are the only people who could possible answer you! You won't be happy until poor Caroline is posting nowhere. You can't get away with your nastiness on QOL, but boy do you bring it here! There is only one person running to "start crap here" and it is you! Caroline has posted nothing but the fact that QAL starts in a month, a totally innocuous remark, one that a reasonable person should not have a problem with. That remark results in the above tirade. WHY??? Caroline doesn't post any "shit" about you, but you sure sling handfuls at her. Too bad there are no mods here. Just let her post, she isn't hurting you, and leave her alone. She isn't talking specifically to you. I doubt she ever wants to talk to you as it doesn't end well. But you can't seem to leave her alone. It is really disturbing. I don't even know Caroline, but after reading all your attacks on her for the last couple years, it is just upsetting. Why don't you go find someone else to torment?

snifflese wrote: State your POV all you want because no one wants to listen to it as it makes no sense. What is it I want? I have no agenda and don't care who likes Freddie or the QAL collaboration or if you like Adam. I just hate the way you jump on people in general and go off on a tirade, which is nonsensical, and especially how you have it out for Caroline. Listen to yourself! There are some Adam sites where there are a lot of older ladies and they do call themselves his second Mom. It is kind of cute that they worry about him. Nothing creepy at all! What is creepy is you being the big defender of Freddie, saying singers can't sing particular songs and making him out to be some kind of saint. That is a much bigger issue to me. Why in the world should a dead person be the center of a concert, which is the only thing that would make you happy. I just don't understand. Sure you can love Freddie, but you have taken that way beyond what is normal. Everything Adam does or sings is somehow a perceived slight to Freddie! Sick of the ban thing. The way you go after people, you should be banned on here and if Caroline got banned on QOL, you should also have been banned. You add no value to any board, all you do is ask ridiculous questions half the time that no one but Brian or Roger could answer and here you are just plain nasty. If you don't think your last post was nasty, then you just don't get it. It is one thing to state your opinion and another to state it in the belligerent, nasty, accusatory way that you have. Don't like people calling you out, then don't be like that. Adopt your fake QOL persona here too, as it would be slightly more pleasant!

Sparkles wrote: icy, people judge you by what you post. Your own words. And you are a very angry person for some reason. You don’t treat anyone else the way you treat CNB. Have you ever went back and reread your own posts? You are very belligerent and hypocritical. Why can’t you just let CNB post whatever she wants? If there is a problem, alert the mods and they will take care of it. This is a Queen + Adam Lambert forum. Not just a Queen forum. If people want to talk about how much they love Adam Lambert, that is what this forum is for. Also, the number of posts means jack shit. Who cares if it’s 50 or 5000? Also, if someone states that Freddie and Adam have some things in common, again who cares? Why do you take offense at so many things? Personally, I’m glad Adam is singing all of BoRhap. I hope it continues on the next leg. I also hope they remove those hideous “dayos” in the encore. I hate that part.

SweetCaroline wrote: So if Roger chooses not to sing TATDOOL at the upcoming QAL shows in New Zealand and Australia is Icy going to write 5,000 posts constantly bitching about it? One would think that is the only worthwhile song written by Queen!

SweetCaroline wrote: I know Roger wrote that song so you should be “sniping” at him when he chooses not to sing it! LOL

SweetCaroline wrote: I know exactly what that song is about. I’ve watched or listened to every sirgle show that Adam performed with the Queen guys ever since the American Idol finale on May 20, 2009!

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam doesn’t have to wear a crown or a cape or sit on a couch or a robot or crawl around or talk to the audience. He could just stand in front of a mic like Sam, Adele and Ed Sheeran do and still be a thousand times more magnificent than those three people are. He does what he does because he is an entertainer and wants to have fun with the audience!

SweetCaroline wrote: Example: link

SweetCaroline wrote: Are you kidding me? He’s sitting in front of a mic. This is 2010. Note the shirt he is wearing!

snifflese wrote: Well, never heard that makeup is gimmicky, but I guess you have to come up with some excuse so you can disagree with Caroline. So, let's try again. How about finding fault with this one: link NO makeup, NO music, no background, no nothing and one of the toughest songs for singers to sing, that is why so many lip synch or just really suck!

SweetCaroline wrote: Maybe this one will work? link

Vocal harmony wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Maybe this one will work? link

I'm sure I'll be burned at the stake for this, but . . . . The problem with the American National Anthem is that it is not a song the nation collectively sing but rather a vehicle for someone to stand up and prove how long they can hold notes or stretch lines out or sing octaves above where the song used to be. So it's become a song that says look at me, I'm cool or aren't I brilliant and the collective consciousness seems to be about the performance and appreciation of it rather than the song.

snifflese wrote: Wow, talk about dissing the military! This was sung at Naval Air Station Miramar in California to honor the sailors that were out to sea and actually doing something to protect all our rights such as complaining on forums. My family is military. My husband served 32 years and my son is serving. So I take great offense at that remark. When I hear the anthem, it makes me proud of my whole family (Dad and brother-in-law also career military) and all the soldiers that are serving and have served! I don't think it is about a singer trying to look good. Adam went there to honor the sailors and to do something nice for the families. He sang it simply and not over the top with lots of embellishments, just as it should be sung. I chose this one, since Icy always implies Adam is nothing but a big gimmick, which offends me. Here he is on a stage with no music, no anything and he sounds better than almost all the people who sing it. You can choose to think what you like, but Adam's voice doesn't need gimmicks and I think this video shows that. Gimmicks are the rest of entertaining which people nowadays seem to want. It is just like in the movies, where people have to have blow it up, explosions, constant noise or they are not happy. Most people are not going to enjoy Queen doing very personal acoustic shows. I would love it, but I don't think they will fill the arena. That just isn't Queen. They create a spectacle with all the bells and whistles, so Adam performs in that manner. BUT he can just sit and sing his face off, too!

snifflese wrote: Yea, Icy, so you are not even going "to bother to watch it"! Just shows how unwilling you are for anyone to have a different viewpoint. People go to the trouble of attempting to discuss something with you and to show you an example to help you understand another viewpoint and you are totally unwilling to look at it, to think about it or to discuss in a civil manner. Well, that is why a lot of folks find you totally frustrating. No point in trying to discuss anything with you ever, I guess!

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam is charismatic and exciting even when he’s just sitting! LOL

snifflese wrote: I think the only ranting and raging is on your part, Icy. I made a few simple statements, that was it! It is your choice certainly, but don't try to pretend you are discussing when you won't even listen to another's viewpoint. If you don't watch it, you don't understand the point. Yea, I am beginning to think that everything about you is "offensive", since you sound totally irrational to me. You always talk about discussing, but all you do is throw stuff back at people and never have a point yourself. Yea, it is totally frustrating. I always think maybe there might be hope for an exchange with you that was rational, but I guess I will have to avoid. No more remarks to you because it is just futile. Enjoy arguing with yourself, because there is nothing else on this forum! No one wants to read this kind of garbage!!

SweetCaroline wrote: Yup, especially if it is Adele or Sam or even Ed! LOL

Vocal harmony wrote: Snifflese, at what point did I diss the military, your countries or anyone else's. Had I wanted to comment on anyone's military service, actions or policies I would have done so using words, like military, navy, soldiers, marines,action, war etc. I didn't, so don't turn what I said which was a musical observation into some kind of pro military comment because that IS NOT what I was talking about and I'm sorry but a fail to believe that you are stupid enough to read a post about singing with no mention of the military, your husband or your son and somehow pur your own none subjective argument forward as an answer!

Bullet with Butterfly Wings wrote:

Vocal harmony wrote: Snifflese, at what point did I diss the military, your countries or anyone else's. Had I wanted to comment on anyone's military service, actions or policies I would have done so using words, like military, navy, soldiers, marines,action, war etc. I didn't, so don't turn what I said which was a musical observation into some kind of pro military comment because that IS NOT what I was talking about and I'm sorry but a fail to believe that you are stupid enough to read a post about singing with no mention of the military, your husband or your son and somehow pur your own none subjective argument forward as an answer!

You did nothing wrong at all. Some people just look and want to be insulted and offended by anything and everything. Actually, she seems to fit that type, plus twisting things that are not even said. A well known tactic of hers, and a shitty tactic at that.

Vocal harmony wrote:

Bullet with Butterfly Wings wrote:

Vocal harmony wrote: Snifflese, at what point did I diss the military, your countries or anyone else's. Had I wanted to comment on anyone's military service, actions or policies I would have done so using words, like military, navy, soldiers, marines,action, war etc. I didn't, so don't turn what I said which was a musical observation into some kind of pro military comment because that IS NOT what I was talking about and I'm sorry but a fail to believe that you are stupid enough to read a post about singing with no mention of the military, your husband or your son and somehow pur your own none subjective argument forward as an answer!

You did nothing wrong at all. Some people just look and want to be insulted and offended by anything and everything. Actually, she seems to fit that type, plus twisting things that are not even said. A well known tactic of hers, and a shitty tactic at that.

Yes you're right. Kind of forming an opinion as to why both her husband and now her son elected to be employed in a job that meant they could spend as much time as possible away from her! ;)

SweetCaroline wrote: For those who periodically express their wish that QAL would record together I think “Love Kills” could have been the perfect song to release instead of a whole album of new songs. They have chosen to stay with Queen hits so it appears to be “too late” to issue anything like that anymore!

Vocal harmony wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: For those who periodically express their wish that QAL would record together I think “Love Kills” could have been the perfect song to release instead of a whole album of new songs. They have chosen to stay with Queen hits so it appears to be “too late” to issue anything like that anymore!

Why would they start re recording songs that Freddie has already recorded. If they record an album or just a handful of songs with Lambert they will be new, but I don't think Brian and Roger have much interest in writing and recoding as Queen. Time will tell

Vocal harmony wrote: I think the problem Queen as a recording unit have is that they have a lot of familiar faces around them more often than not agreeing with all that's said. The yes man attitude protects the pay cheques. The Cosmos Rocks suffered because of this and the fact Brian was devoting time to doctorate studies. The album could have been a lot better had they had a good producer who wouldn't be afraid to say no do it again! It also suffered from no real record company interest in gaining a foot hold in the market. Of course like Miss Butterfly Wings says, Lambert can't write so it would put more pressure on BM and RT, I'm sure they wouldn't entertain having another four or five writers.

SweetCaroline wrote: Some of the songs I’m hearing on the Grammys tonight can’t compare to the songs on Adam’s 3 albums! Two FUX was a fun song performed live! So STFU, icy and stop stalking me and commenting on everything I post.

SweetCaroline wrote: Do you know how to READ? I said SOME !!’

someonewholikesadam wrote: Now I am going to post Adam songs that would have made it to the Top 10 of the pop charts had they been released. link

SweetCaroline wrote: Do you know how to READ? I said SOME !!’

rockchic65 wrote: Your third and fifth links don't seem to work. For me I would have released Soaked as the first song, would have gone down better at the AMA's I reckon. He seemed more interested in doing pop but he doesn't stand out in that genre specifically. I think if he'd gone the more Adele, Sam Smith route and focused on showing his voice he might have had a lot more success. Just my opinion. I keep hoping he'll surprise us.

rockchic65 wrote: BwBW Personally I think his voice is way too good for pop or at least the dancey commercial pop music, I know it covers a wider range than that but that's what I think of as pop. For me I love his voice on stuff like Soaked, Stay, Red House and I think he'd kill stuff like Journey and Foreigner, basically any melodic type rock, blues rock, power ballads. Not saying he can't do pop, but there's a lot of competition with a core handful of people who constantly top the charts and get loads of radio play. It's not voice driven so nothing specific stands out about him, he's just another fish in the pond, no one really cares that much about the voice in the commercial pop genre, they just want to listen to the beat and dance etc, esp EDM type stuff. That said stuff like Journey etc probably wouldn't get in the charts or even sell that well, though it should.

rockchic65 wrote: BwBW Yeah I loved Save Me, one of my all time favourite Queen songs anyway and he really excelled at that one. He said the album was done a while ago then he's been back in the studio all January so not sure if he's gone in a different direction or just adding new songs. I suppose regardless what he want's to do the record company will get the final say, just hope they are open to ideas. I've always felt he was chasing what he thought was popular rather than what he really wanted to do, but I could be wrong as he does like to listen to EDM etc as well. He mentioned going for a more live sound, more guitar's etc and mentioned people like Bowie, Prince and George Michael as stuff he was listening to. Guess with the new QAL dates it won't be anytime soon though.

someonewholikesadam wrote: BwBW In which genre would put this song? I am certain this would have been a TOP 10 in the US had it been released as a single. link

rockchic65 wrote: I didn't realize Ryan recorded Sleepwalker before he gave it to Adam, they changed the chorus part quite a bit link

runner_70 wrote: You really need to Post that crap? You might end up getting banned for a few months for spamming the board with Lamebird drivel. I remember some person got banned for a few months over @QOL.

runner_70 wrote: Good Point holly. The constant publishing of the supposed great reviews are from their own PR team I guess.

runner_70 wrote: Hey inu swinger: trying to be funny and failing miserably?

runner_70 wrote: If you want bad jokes go and see a QAL show

bucsateflon wrote: I hope those acrylic nails of BM really improve Rogers drum chops

runner_70 wrote: Well as their fans are mostly overweight housewives now they cannot stand for 2hrs straight.

inu-liger wrote:

bucsateflon wrote: I hope those acrylic nails of BM really improve Rogers drum chops

I wonder if they still make acrylic drum sticks? I remember seeing those in the late 90's

SweetCaroline wrote: I want to ride my bicycle: link

runner_70 wrote: another pic of an overweight lameturd riding a bike, wow

SweetCaroline wrote: ““Queen + Adam Lambert made a big splash on this week’s Global Concert Pulse as a new entry, coming in at No. 6 for the week with an average gross of $1.4 million and 13,300 tickets sold per show on 11 shows”. link

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam’s not overweight. That’s all muscle!

SweetCaroline wrote: Yeah, so what, Icy? What’s your problem?

SweetCaroline wrote: He’s a sexy beast!

runner_70 wrote: I saw Paul as well and he was more than ok! Had a problem with the name as well but as he was no abomination like the parrott i could live with it. He is a legend himself and not some laughable karaoke clown

runner_70 wrote: no real old QUeen fan likes Lamebird believe me

SweetCaroline wrote: Sexy beast: link

SweetCaroline wrote: Sexy beast: link

Holly2003 wrote: link

SweetCaroline wrote: link

SweetCaroline wrote: I can’t bring that link up. What is it?

inu-liger wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: link

SweetCaroline wrote: I can’t bring that link up. What is it?

Wow, so you post something but you don’t even know what it is? Unreal.

SweetCaroline wrote: Thank you! I hadn’t heard that before! It IS very beautiful! Try this if you haven’t heard it before and tell me what you think: Check out this video on YouTube: link

SweetCaroline wrote: Queen + Adam Lambert Reviews — New Zealand and Australia “They came, they rocked, they conquered!” link

SweetCaroline wrote: No, icy, you are the joke! Did you read the article I posted?

SweetCaroline wrote: If it is on Queen Hits I and II, I listened to it for 7 hours both ways riding to and from Chicago in 2014. Yes, Freddie would be proud that his music is still being enjoyed LIVE !!!!!

SweetCaroline wrote: Actually it was Queen’s Greatest Hits I, Ii and III: The Platinum Collection link

snifflese wrote: Wow, some of you folks are something else. This is my first post, but I have read things here for a long time and on QOL. I just don't get the animosity towards Sweet Caroline. Ok, she does post a lot of Adam spamming, but so what? This IS a QAL thread and it is about one of the band members, so give her some slack. I am not sure what the really intellectual conversations have been, as I haven't seen too many of those from anyone! I would like to say, however, I think something needs to be done about Butterfly gal, aka, Icy. She is a cyber stalker and the biggest bully I have ever seen when it comes to trolling around after Sweet Caroline. That is someone who not only often doesn't understand what was said, but she just spews venom. She ought to have been banned on QOL, not Sweet Caroline who always is complimentary of Freddie and Queen. That lady likes nothing at all about Adam and the current Queen configuration, so why post here? Go to a Freddie and old Queen thread. She has absolutely nothing interesting to say and keeps spewing the same crap about bans and things Caroline did not do, as I have been reading at QOL for years and posted occasionally. Something needs to be done about her. She has no added value to any of the discussions! She likes anything but QAL, doesn't matter if they sound like a braying donkey and can't sing, they are going to get her approval and I am tired of reading her rants. Normally, I just disregard, but there are so many on every thread today, saying the same thing about Caroline, I thought I should say something. That is my rant. She needs to go!!

SweetCaroline wrote: He’s a sexy beast!

snifflese wrote: I saw that, as I read and very occasionally post there. Someone needs to point Soxtalon over here and see who is bullying whom. Maybe you should mention that he needs to look at a few of these threads over here. I don't understand why Icy responds like she does. Nobody is attacking Freddie, nobody is always praising AL, but it is a QAL thread and Adam is going to be mentioned. How can he not be? Icy keeps saying she is a Queen fan but that is not what I have seen. She is a Freddie and maybe John fan and that is because they are not part of QAL whom she detests, no matter how much she says otherwise. Just like her "I'm a fan of the guy", which is her response about Adam. Thanks goodness there are not many fans like her. Adam would be in huge trouble. I have been a Queen fan since my early 20's in the early 70's, probably way longer than she has been a fan, but i am not just crazy about Freddie and his accomplishments, forgetting the contributions of all of them. He was but one part of Queen. There would be no Queen without the others. I am thrilled that two old rockers can keep doing what they love and found a great singer to bring it to new fans. I just don't get her animus and constant picking about the same 2 or 3 tiny things she always brings up. Two bad there were no videos to see how often Freddie messed up when he wasn't firing on all cylinders, which happened quite often if what I have read is true! I didn't see them live, but I am sure there were lots of mistakes and so what, who is counting? Just like now, who cares if there was a lyric flub or a string that broke or that Brian felt poorly. We are lucky just to get to see them play!! We are all grownups and should behave as such!!!

snifflese wrote: That is you in a nutshell! I stand by what I said. Should we start posting all the nasty crap you write every day and have for years. That could be done, but I don't have the time to troll for things from years ago and wouldn't anyway as it is really creepy and you have to worry about stalkers at this point. To be so fixated on people, that you do this, is not healthy at all. Start doing something positive for yourself, quit feeling sorry for yourself and taking it out on others. You would be surprised, but that really helps. If Freddie has turned you into a critter like this, I don't know. I thought music was good for the soul, but obviously not in your case.

snifflese wrote: Anything else you would like to pull out that I have said? I could find so many really mean, nasty insidious things you say, but what a major waste of time. As far as seeking out your posts, when I say I have read you for so many years, it is only because I have read on QOL for many years and no one can overlook your posts, nor the ones on here. I certainly couldn't overlook them, but definitely was not out to read your stuff particularly. It, unfortunately happens to be there and there is always such a vicious streak in there, that I couldn't overlook it. It is Christmas weekend, go watch a good movie and quit finding posts. My point was this is QAL and not only Freddie can be discussed here and if we say something positive about Adam, Debbie Downer doesn't have to give us grief about it. As Brancelli said, Adam is certainly one of the 5 best singers in the world right now or at least in the discussion, so we aren't hyping him. I don't care if you like him or not, that is your business but quit telling us why we shouldn't. I don't like you and I don't want your focus on me. Just leave me be at this point. I find this whole situation with you creepy and tedious. Sympathy only goes so far and you are over the line in that regard. I don't like all your insults much either and they wear on a person. So if someone says Adam sings like a goat, we can't say, no, he doesn't. but it is fine if one of you criticize him. That makes a lot of sense in your world only. You are not worth answering anymore as you twist everything. Have fun posting to and from yourself.

snifflese wrote: Obviously you don't get the plot, as usual. There is a HUGE DIFFERENCE between reading a forum post where everyone posts, which is what I have done for about 10 years on QOL and a few on here. While the number of years you posted on QOL seems to be in contention, I never singled yours out. I HAD to read them, as I read all of them and after that long I could write a post pretending to be you. Words like deflect, gloat, lust, shit stir, brown nose, hype, Big up (hate that phrase!!!) come to mind and the famous two, Sorry/Not Sorry and the best of all "And on a Queen board, no less!!! I do not go out looking for your posts, unfortunately I read them as they are part of the conversation, if you could call that a conversation. YOU on the other hand go back years searching out SC or my posts and then put them on here. That is a huge red flag and cause for concern.

snifflese wrote: Icy, I had to read your crap when I followed the threads on QOL. So, after all those many years I recognize you and can pick your post out of any on there or here. I posted here about 2 years ago and said I wanted to post because you are a bully and I was tired of the way you go after any new posters and in particular SC. I have reiterated that many times, no big secret. After 2 years you still do that, but I find it awful that you dig through past posts and throw them in people's faces. You have too many for me to even bother, ones that I thought were really egregious and I don't have time for this. I wouldn't do it anyway, as it is creepy. Don't you have a real life and something to keep you busy other than digging up dirt? No wonder you are such an unhappy person. It comes through in every post you make.I don't want my own way, I don't care, but you are never fair or kind to people who have a different view point. I forgot about Soxtalon, maybe since you obsess about every post, just like the 24th and the cape and the Live Aid this or that, it is important to you and you remember. I don't consider it important at all and forgot after 2 years. You hold every little negative thing in your head and that also makes for an unhappy Icy. I can be very civil, most people like me very much, but you haven't shown me any civility, nor to many people on here, only the anti-QAL crew and a few others who have a lot more patience than I do, apparently. I am not sure why you would think I should like you? You say whatever you like, you cut down Adam and his sparkle cows, agree with the crap that comes out of the hate Adam at all costs crew and scare new poster off? Do you see any good things there, because I don't. I am not much for pretending and I call a spade a spade and usually ignore what I don't like, but you are very hard to ignore, as you are pretty much the focus on this board, unfortunately. It will never be a place to discuss anything in a civil manner as long as you are on here with your nit picking, back seat moderation and I hate sparkle cows at all costs mentality. Trust me, you have been mentioned on Adam boards and it ain't pretty!!!

SweetCaroline wrote: If it is on Queen Hits I and II, I listened to it for 7 hours both ways riding to and from Chicago in 2014. Yes, Freddie would be proud that his music is still being enjoyed LIVE !!!!!

Iron Butterfly wrote:

snifflese wrote: Wow, some of you folks are something else. This is my first post, but I have read things here for a long time and on QOL. I just don't get the animosity towards Sweet Caroline. Ok, she does post a lot of Adam spamming, but so what? This IS a QAL thread and it is about one of the band members, so give her some slack. I am not sure what the really intellectual conversations have been, as I haven't seen too many of those from anyone! I would like to say, however, I think something needs to be done about Butterfly gal, aka, Icy. She is a cyber stalker and the biggest bully I have ever seen when it comes to trolling around after Sweet Caroline. That is someone who not only often doesn't understand what was said, but she just spews venom. She ought to have been banned on QOL, not Sweet Caroline who always is complimentary of Freddie and Queen. That lady likes nothing at all about Adam and the current Queen configuration, so why post here? Go to a Freddie and old Queen thread. She has absolutely nothing interesting to say and keeps spewing the same crap about bans and things Caroline did not do, as I have been reading at QOL for years and posted occasionally. Something needs to be done about her. She has no added value to any of the discussions! She likes anything but QAL, doesn't matter if they sound like a braying donkey and can't sing, they are going to get her approval and I am tired of reading her rants. Normally, I just disregard, but there are so many on every thread today, saying the same thing about Caroline, I thought I should say something. That is my rant. She needs to go!!

Bump. Your first post you made on QZ. You were full of then, and you are full of it now.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

snifflese wrote: Wow, some of you folks are something else. This is my first post, but I have read things here for a long time and on QOL. I just don't get the animosity towards Sweet Caroline. Ok, she does post a lot of Adam spamming, but so what? This IS a QAL thread and it is about one of the band members, so give her some slack. I am not sure what the really intellectual conversations have been, as I haven't seen too many of those from anyone! I would like to say, however, I think something needs to be done about Butterfly gal, aka, Icy. She is a cyber stalker and the biggest bully I have ever seen when it comes to trolling around after Sweet Caroline. That is someone who not only often doesn't understand what was said, but she just spews venom. She ought to have been banned on QOL, not Sweet Caroline who always is complimentary of Freddie and Queen. That lady likes nothing at all about Adam and the current Queen configuration, so why post here? Go to a Freddie and old Queen thread. She has absolutely nothing interesting to say and keeps spewing the same crap about bans and things Caroline did not do, as I have been reading at QOL for years and posted occasionally. Something needs to be done about her. She has no added value to any of the discussions! She likes anything but QAL, doesn't matter if they sound like a braying donkey and can't sing, they are going to get her approval and I am tired of reading her rants. Normally, I just disregard, but there are so many on every thread today, saying the same thing about Caroline, I thought I should say something. That is my rant. She needs to go!!

Bump. Your first post you made on QZ. You were full of then, and you are full of it now.

Hey, snifflese. Here you go, once again, your first post.

SweetCaroline wrote: snifflese, it’s hard but we just have to ignore the trolls who hijack every thread about Queen and Adam

SweetCaroline wrote: snifflese, it’s hard but we just have to ignore the trolls who hijack every thread about Queen and Adam

snifflese wrote: Yep, I did and I think it totally still applies, the only difference is that I would add Runner to the "Let's ban Them List"! Satisfied? There is no dealing with either of you. I tried to make nice with Icy yesterday and it isn't possible. The two of you are like black holes that try to block out the sun with your constant crapping on everybody here. Either someone is a shit stirrer, or they just big Adam up or they shouldn't be posting what they do as it is spam or they need to be just talking about Freddie, because this is a Queen forum and that is all we can talk about since obviously Freddie was and still is (in Icy and Runner's mine), the sum total of Queen! You two ruin this forum for everyone else as you can't stand any discussion about anything but Freddie and can't seem to grasp the idea of a QAL forum. It is bad enough when one of you gets going, but with you two buddies in tandem it is just impossible. You two are the ultimate trolls here on this board!! Great job!

SweetCaroline wrote: Tokyo Two live streams: link link link

snifflese wrote: See, have to mind her business for her Some people appreciate a link to the shows and you are not the moderator! And you wonder why she calls you a dictator? You just can't help yourself. You are always off topic unless there is one for telling people what they should and should not be doing.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Tokyo Two live streams: link link link

You are so off topic in here. Of course you will blame me again for that too.

snifflese wrote: No, Icy, as usual you are confused. I do not care if someone has a different opinion, but there is a way to say it and a way that you shouldn't. I don't expect everyone to like Adam or QAL or any artist. There are such things as individual tastes, but you and Runner don't let anyone have a different opinion without talking about shit stirring and hyping and thinking about coattails and all sorts of crazy crap, usually ugly stuff on Runner's part. I imagine there are others who would like to say something now and again, but just don't want to deal with the negativity and that is all you two bring. You just suck the joy out of this forum. If you hate it all so much, why spend time here and ruin it for everyone else?

snifflese wrote: Nope, If I ran this only civilized conversation would be allowed, but all opinions are welcome!

SweetCaroline wrote: Stop posting in this Australia/New Zealand Tour thread from 2015 because next week there will be a new one for 2020!