| mike hunt 19.12.2017 15:22 |
I know this movie has been talked about to death already, but a new interview with Brian he says They're not sweeping any part of Freddie under the rug, and will be balanced between his creative and personal life. I hope that's true. As for the cast, I Think they look the part. Brian in particular looks like a younger version of him. Freddie? That's a concern for me....Freddie was a small man only 5'7 170 pounds, the actor Malek is small as well but looks too young and boyish...Freddie had a larger than life personality that will be hard, very hard to recreate. These type of movies only have a few successes....Every elvis movie flopped, ect, ect.....A few got it right like The Doors and Ray Charles.. Can Queen be one of the few that get it right? Aside from The Freddie concern my biggest concern is if they end the Movie with Live Aid....that's not when the Queen/Freddie story ended, and will ignore a very Important part of the their story..that last year of his life showing his courage and the band pushing foward creating one last album when he was sick was Inspiring... I think that would show people he was more than a flamboyant character. Not sure how they could ignore that part of their history. |
| Vocal harmony 19.12.2017 15:29 |
It's a story everyone knows the details of. Why does the film have to follow the whole story to its tragic conclusion. If the film does end at Live Aid it wil end on a massive high, nothing wrong with that. As far as following what other bio pics do,now hen have Queen ever done what most people expect? |
| mike hunt 19.12.2017 16:07 |
That tragic conclusion is part of the story, while everyone knows Mercury died of Aids they don't know the Inspiring recording of Innuendo. How can a Queen movie be made without him singing The Show Must Go On towards the end of his life? It's such a big part of their history. A unique story that needs to be told. Did they ignore Jim Morrisons death in The Doors Movie? If they do a movie about Johnny Cash will they leave out the heart breaking End with him singing the song Hurt? Even if it's only the last 10 minutes of the movie you can't erase those last couple of years. |
| LOTV 19.12.2017 16:17 |
mike hunt wrote: That tragic conclusion is part of the story, while everyone knows Mercury died of Aids they don't know the Inspiring recording of Innuendo. How can a Queen movie be made without him singing The Show Must Go On towards the end of his life? It's such a big part of their history. A unique story that needs to be told. Did they ignore Jim Morrisons death in The Doors Movie? If they do a movie about Johnny Cash will they leave out the heart breaking End with him singing the song Hurt? Even if it's only the last 10 minutes of the movie you can't erase those last couple of years.Agree totally. Bollocks to brand Queen and finishing on a high, tell the whole and real story. |
| mike hunt 19.12.2017 16:29 |
The real story is the only story that matters....They could end it with Bo Rhap topping the charts after he passed away if they want to end it on a High....The real good movies show a persons High and low points in life. Not Just the good moments. That's not reality. |
| Invisible Woman 19.12.2017 16:34 |
I think the film should include the period after Live Aid. It's also a part of the band's history and I don't see why this would be omitted. |
| Wiley 19.12.2017 17:38 |
Call me (and Queen Productions) crazy but could they, in their misguided / naive ways, be thinking about a Part 2 that starts with One Vision and then you get the whole drama of Freddie getting sick, etc. QP have a tendency of starting and setting things up thinking about 'the long run' and then they drop the ball or simply move on to the next fad: DVD-A, Top 100 Bootlegs, Live Downloads, Greatest Video Hits, etc. And then you get an incomplete set. I wouldn't put this beneath them. |
| people on streets 19.12.2017 20:20 |
Invisible Woman wrote: I think the film should include the period after Live Aid. It's also a part of the band's history and I don't see why this would be omitted.Because every cheesy movie has a sequel... tssss ;) |
| mike hunt 19.12.2017 21:22 |
That would be the worse if they end it with live Aid, then make part 2 for the last 5 years. Even Queen wouldn't be that ridiculous. Besides, it took a decade to finally get this one movie done. Imagine how long it would take to finish part 2? Brian will be 90 at that point. |
| stevendabudgie 19.12.2017 22:14 |
MAybe they'll produce a trilogy- part 2 continues the story until Freddie's death, part 3 shows how the band carries on from strength to strength ;) |
| stevendabudgie 19.12.2017 22:42 |
But I think from a dramatic, commercial point of view it is logical to end with Live Aid. The first third introduces the main characters and shows how the band is formed. In the middle section the story and the conflict gradually deals with their rise to fame and staying power accompanied by lots of career landmarks, Freddie's lovelife, lots of arguments and growing tensions among the band members and finally their low point with "Hot Space", alienation from each other, solo projects, thought about breaking up... In the third and final act our heroes settle their differences and achieve their biggest triumph ever, Live Aid. The story still can include Freddie's illness- wasn't he advised not to perform on Live Aid because of a flu? The movie can show Freddie having minor ailments, rumours about friends dying and growing concerns about his own health and doubts about being able to perform in that period. Ignoring and overcoming these problems for the band's sake could come across not only as heroic but fitting into Brian's intended story about team work and collaboration. The payoff would be Live Aid- Queen's greatest and most remembered performance. |
| victor fleitas 20.12.2017 02:34 |
mike hunt wrote: If they do a movie about Johnny Cash will they leave out the heart breaking End with him singing the song Hurt? Even if it's only the last 10 minutes of the movie you can't erase those last couple of years.They did a movie about Cash (Walk The Line starring Joaquin Phoenix) and they did not include his final years, it actually ends at his highest point, and it's an amazing movie! you really should check it out. Anyways, I think it will be great if they do a first movie that ends at Live Aid, and then a second movie about the final 5 years of Queen. Or maybe even a movie about the making of Made In Heaven, with flashbacks of the finals years of Freddie. |
| Jimmy Dean 20.12.2017 02:45 |
let's manage our expectations. Examples of great biopics: Ray and Walk The Line. To a lesser extend... The Doors. If we get The Doors - I'll be happy. If you want something dramatic which may not be true to facts... Freddie knew he had AIDS prior to Live Aid. The rest writes itself...Two thirds of the movie occurs during the Live Aid performance during which Freddie recollects his past (formation of the band, Mary, coming out, BoRhap, etc) present (infighting with band, finding out he had AIDS, current lovelife) and inevitable future (death) in no specific order... or at least in an order that fits the setlist and songs they play. which i believe should not be altered and would tell the tale perfectly... starts with BoRhap and ends with We Are The Champions (forget the encore). The emotions that of course run wild during these moment is what fuels his greatest performance. Finally, the show is over, we go backstage where Freddie is alone - he weeps. Fast forward to the Innuendo/last sessions years in Montreux - acceptance of his fate, devotion to his craft, partial performance of The Show Must Go On... fade to his funeral - focus point is the band and how they move forward. Recognition of Freddie, the legend, and the will to carry on. I believe that will be the only way this movie works without it being a boring biography. Wish I could have written it :-) |
| Jimmy Dean 20.12.2017 02:56 |
victor fleitas wrote:I agree with Walk The Line being incredible. However, what is one of the most publicized deaths of all time? Who is the most famous person to die of AIDS? Who is the person in history most commonly associated with the AIDS epidemic? You can't possibly write a movie about Freddie Mercury and leave out his death.mike hunt wrote: If they do a movie about Johnny Cash will they leave out the heart breaking End with him singing the song Hurt? Even if it's only the last 10 minutes of the movie you can't erase those last couple of years.They did a movie about Cash (Walk The Line starring Joaquin Phoenix) and they did not include his final years, it actually ends at his highest point, and it's an amazing movie! you really should check it out. Anyways, I think it will be great if they do a first movie that ends at Live Aid, and then a second movie about the final 5 years of Queen. Or maybe even a movie about the making of Made In Heaven, with flashbacks of the finals years of Freddie. Had Freddie lived until he was 71, not been gay, not had AIDS and dies of natural causes related to diabetes...a chronic illness - i completely agree... his death would be the least interesting thing about him. ie. Johnny Cash... or even eventually... David Bowie (Cancer). You would leave out his death if you did a Bowie biopic. It really is the least interesting thing about his life. But Freddie had AIDS... a horrible disease that was not well understood at the time. Was untreatable at the time. Was a death sentence once you found out. This is pure fucking drama. You can't leave out AIDS, unfortunately. While it may be noble to completely exclude it - it's not dramatically responsible. |
| LOTV 20.12.2017 11:03 |
Let's face it, we know the film will be shit. |
| Queenman!! 20.12.2017 15:03 |
LOTV wrote: Let's face it, we know the film will be shit.——————- That’s What Sasha Cohen Also told when working Six years on the movie. |
| mike hunt 20.12.2017 18:29 |
I'm not a die hard Cash fan, so I didn't know about Walk The Line....but I'll check that out. I agree about the Doors movie...I'll be happy with that. They concrentrated more on the music and added his personal problems and death at the end of the movie. I'm not saying most of the movie should be about clubbing, Sex Drugs and Aids. I think most of it should be about the music and live Aid, but the last part of the movie, say the last 20 minutes should show his illness, and how the band carried on despite the circumstances. Making some of their best songs in the process. |
| andres_clip 20.12.2017 18:37 |
Jimmy Dean wrote:Great point. I agree 100%victor fleitas wrote:I agree with Walk The Line being incredible. However, what is one of the most publicized deaths of all time? Who is the most famous person to die of AIDS? Who is the person in history most commonly associated with the AIDS epidemic? You can't possibly write a movie about Freddie Mercury and leave out his death. Had Freddie lived until he was 71, not been gay, not had AIDS and dies of natural causes related to diabetes...a chronic illness - i completely agree... his death would be the least interesting thing about him. ie. Johnny Cash... or even eventually... David Bowie (Cancer). You would leave out his death if you did a Bowie biopic. It really is the least interesting thing about his life. But Freddie had AIDS... a horrible disease that was not well understood at the time. Was untreatable at the time. Was a death sentence once you found out. This is pure fucking drama. You can't leave out AIDS, unfortunately. While it may be noble to completely exclude it - it's not dramatically responsible.mike hunt wrote: If they do a movie about Johnny Cash will they leave out the heart breaking End with him singing the song Hurt? Even if it's only the last 10 minutes of the movie you can't erase those last couple of years.They did a movie about Cash (Walk The Line starring Joaquin Phoenix) and they did not include his final years, it actually ends at his highest point, and it's an amazing movie! you really should check it out. Anyways, I think it will be great if they do a first movie that ends at Live Aid, and then a second movie about the final 5 years of Queen. Or maybe even a movie about the making of Made In Heaven, with flashbacks of the finals years of Freddie. |
| mike hunt 20.12.2017 20:39 |
He was also the first Rock Star to die from that disease....correct me if I'm wrong. While rock stars dying of drug overdoses are common...Aids is a more dramatic story. Especially given the UK press and how they treated him. I think they should show how messed up the UK press are and were back then. |
| Penetration_Guru 20.12.2017 23:56 |
mike hunt wrote:I think they should show how messed up the UK press are and were back then.Do you have much screenwriting experience? |
| mike hunt 21.12.2017 00:43 |
I'm allowed too have an opinion about how this movie should be done. I been a die hard fan for almost 30 years. I'm more Qualified than most producers who in all honesty only know Bo Rhap and we will Rock You. Most people on this site would do a better Job than Brian May and Roger, who at the end of the day are going too protect the bands reputation Instead of telling the truth. Tell a story about this cute band Queen that the children will go and see. |
| Another Roger (re) 21.12.2017 03:31 |
Some of you have such a negative nature. To an extent that a new movie is written off before we have even seen a trailer. No matter what they include in this film people will be unhappy on here. In fact I understand why Queen think more about the general public than the hardcore Queen fan. Queen fans are impossible to satisfy anyway. And secondly its not the tiny group of hardcore Queen fans who will make them money anyway. So why bother with us fans? The upside is much bigger if they manage to create some interest in the general public. |
| Another Roger (re) 21.12.2017 03:39 |
Mike Hunt: Of course you are allowed to have your own opinion. What you want is a documentary. If you have given up the film already I expect you wont be watching it at all. Why should you? You have decided its shit before we have even seen 5 seconds of it. Do you think Queen were a hardcore band after rock standards? Well, if there are cute stories in the rock world from the 70s Queen are probably one of them. |
| Jimmy Dean 21.12.2017 04:09 |
movies don't need to be good anymore - they just need to attract enough attention in their first week to be success. they key is monitoring a lean budget and have at least one recognizable star. |
| Penetration_Guru 21.12.2017 07:39 |
mike hunt wrote: I'm more Qualified than most producers who in all honesty only know Bo Rhap and we will Rock You.40% of the producers are members of Queen, plus Jim Beach You're allowed opinions, but we're allowed to point out factual errors and have our own opinions.... |
| mike hunt 21.12.2017 14:38 |
Of course we're going to disagree on certain things....but, Sometimes it takes an outside source to make a proper movie about a band. Not the band themselves......while I do agree Queen wern't a hardcore party band as a whole I think It's a fact freddie was. I read an article about Elton a few months ago where he stated (not many people in my day could out party me In the 70's/early 80's, but Freddie Mercury did. Now Freddie Mercury could party) are they going to make him out too be a saint and make a disney movie? Or tell the true story? I never said the movie will be shit if they don't make It a certain way. The movie could mostly be about live Aid and still be a good movie, but going by their track record since Freddie died I would bet against it. They got very little right in the last 26 years. |
| ITSM 21.12.2017 15:02 |
I think it's great it ends with Live Aid, in respect of Freddie's wish "never make me boring", he also liked to have a good time. Also the entertainment value will be better, I think. Go out of the theatre on a good feeling - hopefully! |
| mike hunt 21.12.2017 15:10 |
Another Roger (re) wrote: Some of you have such a negative nature. To an extent that a new movie is written off before we have even seen a trailer. No matter what they include in this film people will be unhappy on here. In fact I understand why Queen think more about the general public than the hardcore Queen fan. Queen fans are impossible to satisfy anyway. And secondly its not the tiny group of hardcore Queen fans who will make them money anyway. So why bother with us fans? The upside is much bigger if they manage to create some interest in the general public.I'm not negative.....they got a few things right since 1991. Made In Heaven, Rainbow, live at the Bowl. The only thing missing is a proper Anothology and maybe a late 70's DvD. I think this movie is a good opportunity for them to reach a new generation the way Waynes World did in the early 90's... If they get it right. |
| Another Roger (re) 21.12.2017 16:01 |
I hope so Mike! I am staying positive until the opposite is proven. I think life is more fun looking forward to things rather than expecting disaster all the time. But sure, they may get it wrong. I'll just cross that bridge when it is in front of me ;) |
| BETA215 21.12.2017 21:46 |
They won't be speaking about Montserrat Caballé and Barcelona?! I hope our assumptions are false. |
| mike hunt 22.12.2017 00:05 |
I hope so....Barcelona is one of my favorite albums he did. I was listening to the remake with the real orchestra the other day. Not as good as the original, but still had good moments. |
| john bodega 22.12.2017 04:10 |
Inasmuch as it's a shame not to tell the 'whole' story - do we really need another assemblage of AIDS porn? That UK TV documentary from last year with John Blunt was a maudlin, low rent joke - it really was just 90 minutes of Freddie hanging out with different people saying "I have AIDS darlings!" and then dropping dead. If people really need a visual re-enactment of his last years, I guess they can hunt that thing down - but it's pretty much all in books already. A good movie (and I have no idea if this is going to be a good one or not) has a trajectory of its own. You might find that ending on Live Aid, or being book-ended by Live Aid, or however they're doing it - might be the best presentation for the bits of the story that they'd like to tell. This is why there are good autobiographies that don't end with the author writing "oh .. oh God it's coming, I can feel the end - bluuuarrggh!" before the pen trails off the page. |
| matt z 22.12.2017 08:52 |
Re: the movie . Whatever happens. ...i hope they obey the laws of space science....if there's a fleet of bombers in space i don't to see them "FALL by gravity" |
| john bodega 24.12.2017 07:44 |
Kind of missing the point there. |
| kosimodo 24.12.2017 16:25 |
I am more concerned about maliks singing. Freddies voice is so unique and irreplacable that imo all, beside speaking, should be His voice. Any singer singing queen ends up with a louzier result then the original. |
| mike hunt 24.12.2017 21:19 |
True, even good singers sound off singing Queen songs. That's why I'm hoping they use freddie's Voice for the movie. |
| john bodega 28.12.2017 12:20 |
Unless I misheard, they have a mimic doing the singing voice that sounds a lot more like Freddie than Rami is ever going to look like him. I should think that one glaring lack of resemblance would trump the other. |
| cmsdrums 30.12.2017 11:12 |
I think Marc Martel has done some vocal work for the film. I’d like to know who has recorded the other parts....I can’t imagine Brian and Roger have re-recorded anything so which musicians will they have on the soundtrack? |
| matt z 01.01.2018 02:04 |
^ they damn well BETTER HAVE recorded their own parts. (*possibly excluding Roger for faster drumming.) Otherwise it won't sound QUEEN. John of course. ..keep his old bass lines. Maybe sub them in from all the live multi tracks they don't share for sale or rent. |
| RadioDaDa 15.02.2018 12:16 |
We all know how the story ended, but there are many who know the songs but dont know the faces nor the story . They say the band wants to keep the story clean and end on a high. Thats fine but its not being totally true. My opinion, if the movie is sugar coated then it will not be a success. This is the problem when close friends or family make a movie rather than just be a part of the production to lend information. This movie could be mega if its done right. Not raunchy but you have to raise a few eyebrows. |
| mike hunt 15.02.2018 13:54 |
I agree! I Don't want them glorifying Excess, drugs and all that, but it has to be part of the movie. Even if only a small part. Most of the movie should concentate on the music of course. His battle with Aids should also have a small part towards the end. Erasing that part of his history is erasing reality. |
| RadioDaDa 16.02.2018 15:01 |
Mike hunt - I totally agree with you. If you havent seen Sasha Baron Cohen on his last appearance of Howard Stern snow you should talk a look. He explains it pretty well. |
| AlexRocks 17.02.2018 04:46 |
Freddie was not the first rock star to die from A.I.D.S. There are/were others...that we know about that is. There was Ricky Wilson from The B-52s and Jobriath. |
| AlexRocks 17.02.2018 04:46 |
Both who should get their own films as well... |
| AlexRocks 17.02.2018 04:48 |
Again there are multiple movies and or film that could not only tell the story of QUEEN but different films that could tell different stories. So whatever this does not end up being could end up being something else in the long run... |
| Day dop 19.02.2018 23:35 |
A big deal will be made of "losing america", when in reality the rest of the world didn't give a shit and it was business as usual. |