| splicksplack 15.12.2017 04:17 |
Dodgy stuff. In TYMD there is a lyric that says “it’s gottta be tonight, my LITTLE SCHOOL-BABE”. Are we comfortable with that? Should it be called out? I mention it because we haven’t heard a view on recent celeb sex-scandals from our Queen people. It’s a Brian May (exclusively heterosexual as far as I’m aware) lyric and suggests masculine power-based domination. Discuss? |
| splicksplack 15.12.2017 04:24 |
the more I think about it, the worse it gets. Your momma says you don't And your Daddy says you won't And I'm boilin' up inside Ain't no way I'm gonna lose out this time a bit rapey???? |
| splicksplack 15.12.2017 04:26 |
Thought some more....WHOA - Drop from set guys. IMMEDIATELY. |
| John S Stuart 15.12.2017 05:16 |
In the UK the legal age for sexual consent (and marriage) is 16. Considering one can stay on at school until they are 18; it is very common to find 16+ pupils engaged in sexual relationships. That has always been the case, even when the song was written. So if she is over 16, and still at school - what is the problem? (Unlike David Bowie for example who had a predilection for 14 year old girls; Now that IS paedophilia whatever way you look at it!) PS: Don't shoot the messenger. Just Google "David Bowie" and ""Paedophilia". It's not that hard! |
| IanR 15.12.2017 05:21 |
Brian is Nostradamus and this is foretelling of the coming of Roy Moore. |
| musicland munich 15.12.2017 06:33 |
John S Stuart wrote: (Unlike David Bowie for example who had a predilection for 14 year old girls; Now that IS paedophilia whatever way you look at it!) PS: Don't shoot the messenger. Just Google "David Bowie" and ""Paedophilia". It's not that hard!In Germany 14 years is okay for sex ( if the parents didn't vetoing it) And 14 years is "Hebephilia" actually ;) |
| Martin Packer 15.12.2017 09:07 |
1) WHAT has "gotta be tonight"? Not clear it's sex. 2) I always took "boiling up inside" as anger. Not anything else. And, no, I'm not naïve. |
| dysan 15.12.2017 09:11 |
Google any notable rock star and the dreaded P word and you'll get results. I assume John is a Jimmy Page fan so as not to give that as an example? |
| dysan 15.12.2017 09:40 |
I'm all horny now. |
| The Fairy King 15.12.2017 10:15 |
Martin Packer wrote: 1) WHAT has "gotta be tonight"? Not clear it's sex.Queen Monopoly |
| John S Stuart 15.12.2017 10:55 |
Yes Dyson; I am a huge Zeppelin fan - but I have a personal take on it. As human beings we all suffer from cognitive dissonance to some degree. I get over mine in that I can seperate art from the creator. This I call the baker syndrome. Simply, I want to buy a sticky bun for my morning coffee. The olde bakery I buy my buns has the best pastries in town. Do I really care about the baker's personal life? Do I really care about the baker's past? Well no actually! I am quite happy to shop there because I enjoy the product - not the creator. In otherwords, Kevin Spacey "may" be an ars*hole in real life, but that does not invalidate "Unusual Suspects" or "House of Cards". Jimmy Page could well be a sexual preditor and as such needs to face criminal charges; but that does not invalidate "Stairway to Heaven" as a great piece of music. If that WAS to be the case, there would be no art at all surviving beyond the middle ages, and as for music, anyone jumping on borad the Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis or Chuck Berry bandwagon? I never really understood the BBC stance on Gary Glitter. Yes. Without any shadow of doubt Glitter deserves to be in prison. But does that mean his music is any less valid than that of the Sex Pistols, Jim Gordon, Joe Meek or Phil Spector? After all, they are all convicted killers (murderers if you will) and yet the BBC still play their music without any conscience. "Want to be in my gang" anyone? |
| Bertus 15.12.2017 12:41 |
What an dramaQueen. Splitsnack... Tie your mother down! |
| dysan 15.12.2017 13:42 |
I kind of agree Join. |
| matt z 15.12.2017 14:49 |
YES LET'S CENSOR EVERYTHING! ! LET'S ALL FORCIBLY WEAR GREY CLOTHING AND ONLY READ WHAT IS PRESCRIBED BY OUR "SUPERIORS"! HAIL! HAIL! HAIL! Down with Brian May! |
| Nitroboy 15.12.2017 15:49 |
Why did anyone even entertain the thought, and play along with the OP? |
| brians wig 15.12.2017 16:44 |
I'll be in your gang ANYDAY Mr Stuart. Come on, come on.... ;-) (though the memory of seeing him perform "Dance Me Up" on Wogan with all those little girls in ballet costume, brings a shudder these days....) |
| Bo Alex 15.12.2017 17:23 |
We can understand the lyrics like thoughts from a young boy or a teenager, about the same age of the girl he is referring to. I don't see any problem in that. |
| mooghead 15.12.2017 18:05 |
The song is called 'Tie Your Mother Down' ffs! |
| c.jory 15.12.2017 19:05 |
Pretty sure I read somewhere Brian wrote part of it as a teen (currently I do not have the source so don't ask!) and it's simply about a teen relationship. Not a nonce anthem haha |
| Fireplace 15.12.2017 20:26 |
Greek men had sexual relationships with underage boys a scant 2000 years ago. Should I avoid Greece as a holiday destination? Please advise. |
| master marathon runner 15.12.2017 20:39 |
The barmiest frikken post in QZ history. |
| dysan 15.12.2017 21:24 |
It really isn't. |
| mooghead 15.12.2017 23:51 |
"Greek men had sexual relationships with underage boys a scant 2000 years ago. Should I avoid Greece as a holiday destination? Please advise. " Maybe avoid churches too... |
| Rich Tea 16.12.2017 01:43 |
Its written from a Schoolboys perspective read the lyrics and that is pretty obvious. As a schoolboy when I heard it first it was a bit of an anthem. Normal people who have lived through the ages of 14 to 18 will relate exactly to the lyrics and as Freddie would say "its just a song ffs" |
| john bodega 16.12.2017 06:30 |
Retarded |
| Dr Magus 16.12.2017 09:37 |
muslims all over the world worship a fake prophet who married a 9 year old girl. Shall we ban islam? Defo gets my vote. |
| Supersonic_Man89 16.12.2017 11:30 |
[quote] Simply, I want to buy a sticky bun for my morning coffee. The olde bakery I buy my buns has the best pastries in town. Do I really care about the baker's personal life? Do I really care about the baker's past? Well no actually! I am quite happy to shop there because I enjoy the product - not the creator. In otherwords, Kevin Spacey "may" be an ars*hole in real life, but that does not invalidate "Unusual Suspects" or "House of Cards". Jimmy Page could well be a sexual preditor and as such needs to face criminal charges; but that does not invalidate "Stairway to Heaven" as a great piece of music. If that WAS to be the case, there would be no art at all surviving beyond the middle ages, and as for music, anyone jumping on borad the Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis or Chuck Berry bandwagon? [/quote] I understand your baker theory...but you still go to the bakery because you don't know what his private life is like. Because these are celebrities we know a lot more...thus we are left in this moral conundrum as to whether to give this person profit. A better example would be 'a dozen women from your village have reported that the baker acted inappropriately to them, some have even accused him of rape. He's confessed to some of this and even admitted to masturbating in a plant pot'... Do you still buy your buns off him? |
| mr mason 16.12.2017 18:14 |
M |
| mr mason 16.12.2017 18:15 |
Masturbating into plant pots,is,commonplace amongst bakers! |
| John S Stuart 17.12.2017 06:20 |
Back to the original post... Try listening to this instead! link |
| John S Stuart 17.12.2017 06:22 |
Off post - Supersonic_Man89. That's what makes him a master-baker! |
| dysan 17.12.2017 08:04 |
I'm conflicted on this subject. Viz tells us the tales of both Fru T Bun the horny baker, and the Drunken Bakers who definitely aren't, |
| AlexRocks 17.12.2017 08:25 |
I have a penis in my pants! |
| dysan 17.12.2017 15:09 |
That offends me as someone who identifies as a gender fluid standard lamp |
| Makka 18.12.2017 05:17 |
Haha....better ban Don't Stand So Close To Me by the Police then! :) |
| LOTV 18.12.2017 16:32 |
It's clearly a tail of young lust and partying. The perspective of a boy or girl to another boy or girl. |
| mooghead 18.12.2017 21:11 |
"I am 41 but I have a school babe. I still see her around town. She was the girl I fancied at school. I suggest if the OP is concerned then they should call the Police and make a complaint. Or call the Daily Mirror first." Is what I would be saying if you were being serious :-) |
| BETA215 18.12.2017 21:38 |
Yeah, this song always made me noise. It's like, not suitable for a 2017 audience hahaha |
| SmokyQuartz 18.12.2017 22:33 |
captainjory wrote: Pretty sure I read somewhere Brian wrote part of it as a teen (currently I do not have the source so don't ask!) and it's simply about a teen relationship. Not a nonce anthem hahaI read that somewhere too, also when I first heard this song it reminded me of my first boyfriend, who was really annoyed at my parents for being 'in the way,' not just about sex, about everything. His parents were far less strict shall we say. But I've always interpreted this song as being sung by a frustrated male teen. |
| Holly2003 18.12.2017 23:13 |
Didn't he start it in the Canaries while he was doing his Phd? |
| dysan 19.12.2017 08:20 |
Yes. He wrote it while playing with his huge telescope up a hill. Disgusting. |
| Invisible Woman 19.12.2017 08:53 |
I always understood this song like this:a boy loves girl very much but her parents don't like him and don't approve their relationship.He wants to take her to a crazy party but understands that his family will never accept him but he still tries and imagines that everything would be ok. if her family somehow disappeared at least one night. Everyone can understand the song in its own way. |
| Jimmy Dean 22.12.2017 02:10 |
Left alone with big fat Fanny She was such a naughty nanny Hey big woman you made a bad boy out of me |
| IanR 26.12.2017 20:17 |
^ I wonder if that verse in FBG alludes to an incident in Freddie's upbringing? |
| Saint Jiub 26.12.2017 20:41 |
IanR wrote: ^ I wonder if that verse in FBG alludes to an incident in Freddie's upbringing?More likely Brian's upbringing ... Freddie's upbringing was at St Peter's, an all boys school in Panchgani India ... not too many big fat nannies there. |
| splicksplack 01.01.2018 02:50 |
Well, when i wrote that post it was early in the morning after a few drinks so not to be taken TOO seriously. However, reading the responses, I suppose there are questions. Yes, it may be written from a 'schoolboy' point of view but it is still definitely written and performed by adults (sexuality of performer notwithstanding). John S Stuart makes the good point that if his baker makes good buns they are still good buns even if the baker is a paedophile. But the analogy doesn't hold. The baker's buns do not promote paedophilia whereas it is arguable that TYMD does. Same with Gary Glitter. I am not aware that any of his songs actively advocated sex with kids so why do the BBC ban on his music? 'Tie Your Mother Down' 'sounds' like an adult rocker asking a youngster, maybe groupie, to ignore parental warnings. Yes, you can argue the schoolboy point of view but we all know the industry in the 70's. Talk of 'Greeks' is irrelevant. This is about modern day laws. The church is also irrelevant for a million reasons (not least because sexual minorities have historically joined their ranks to avoid persecution - ('Your Kevin not married yet?,No, he's joining the church). My favourite post is Dyson's - 'I'm all horny now'. |
| dysan 01.01.2018 08:26 |
I am not aware that any of his songs actively advocated sex with kids so why do the BBC ban on his music? There are a few that sound like they might - although hindsight is 20 20 of course. |