QueenZone discussion #1494164

BobbytheCat wrote: Why don't you get yourself a nice t-shirt with 'Í Hate Adam Lambert' on it.

Jimmy Dean wrote: Unless you’re willing to argue Freddie wasn’t by then.

SweetCaroline wrote: Glam rocker with the best of them, including Mercury, Bowie, Elvis, Bono and Michael Jackson!

GrowUpGlamberts wrote:

Jimmy Dean wrote: Unless you’re willing to argue Freddie wasn’t by then.

I am willing to concede that. He definitely had a rock star attitude before then, but it took him time to ease into his role... certainly less time than it has for Adam with the remaining active members of Queen.

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam is a better live performer than recording artist. His powerful voice was meant to be heard in large arenas and stadiums and not manipulated with studio recording equipment. That’s why he has thrived as a Queen front man more than a recording artist. He’s not a weepy soul singer like big record sellers and Grammy winners Adele and Sam Smith. He has three good albums but the singles from those albums have not been hits. When he has toured those albums worldwide he brings an exciting live rock edge to the songs that don’t come across as rock in the studio.atmosphere.

SweetCaroline wrote: Glam rocker with the best of them, including Mercury, Bowie, Elvis, Bono and Michael Jackson!

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam didn’t WIN American Idol because it was on a homophobic TV station (Fox) with homophobic viewers who preferred the GWG (guys with guitars) to the guy with guyliner! There were 6 of them who won in a row including the year Adam came in 2nd. The guys who won are nowhere now. The ones who made it are Kelly ,and Carrie. Adam is the energizer bunny who has kept on going for the 8 years since Idol because his raw talent cannot be denied. He is a solo singer and shouldn’t be compared to recording bands like Led Zeppelin, The Who, U2 and Queen. Even Freddie was not successful when he went solo. Adam Levine would not sell records if he wasn’t part of the Maroon 5 band.

sizzling wrote: Would I consider Adam Lambert a rock star? I don't know the exact definition of a rock star (lol) but wow(!) the man has pipes and some swag!!! And he is easy on the eyes too. Definite star qualities for me. He must have ballz of steel to tackle the Queen catalogue with so much confidence - big shoes to fill - but he's wearing his own and they look fabulous! I would see him again in a heart beat. I'm sure Freddie is smiling down. No need to compare but so cool that Brian and Roger can keep doing what they love to do. What a thrill!

vikkisusanne wrote: I don't get all the negativity here. What exactly is a rock star anyway? Opinions vary and change over time. What I do know for certain is that Brian and Roger have made their choice and are sticking to it. In the meantime, AL has given them renewed vigor and QAL is bringing joy to hundreds of thousands of multigenerational people, and introducing new audiences to their music as well. Why don't Queen fans respect their choice? The world needs more happiness. Why would you piss on that? It seems misguided and probably not what Freddie would want based on statements he made near the end of his life.

SweetCaroline wrote: Yes, we all went crazy with Adam’s various versions of Whole Lotta Love first on Idol, The 52-city Idol tour and his encore on his 112-city worldwide Glam Nation Tour, changing it up every time. Even Robert Plant didn’t do that! LOL

SweetCaroline wrote:
Yeah, first time Led Zep had been done on Idol. I heard they wouldn't give permission previously. Should have had slash play guitar on it as well, would have been cool.

sizzling wrote: What makes a rock star? I gave it a lot of thought....and I think I found the answer... Someone who you can't take your ears and eyes off, who hits you like a bomb and puts you in a different zone... someone who you crave to go back to for more...and more...I can only speak for myself, but Adam Lambert fits the bill. Good thing that there's a rock star for everybody from the past and present ;)

SweetCaroline wrote: I couldn’t believe that people paid money to see Ed Sheeran stand in front of a mic in a plaid shirt in Wembley Stadium for two hours. He is a good songwriter and a decent singer and musician but boring as hell. Even Elton has a partner (Taupin) who writes the lyrics for his tunes, A guy with a killer voice like Adam can’t do it all by himself and none of the current and past rock bands did it with one man. They collaborate as a team and sometimes even the best ones go through a dry, uninspired spell. Adam is a creative person with a lot of very good ideas but because he doesn’t play the piano or guitar he is limited and depends on others. His strength is being a natural performer and entertainer with a powerful voice.

vikkisusanne wrote: How many of you posters here who are so adamantly opposed to the QAL collaboration have been to one of their live concerts? What are you basing your opinions on? You tube vids, Periscope, etc? Just curious on how you have come to your conclusion. I'd appreciate knowing if you don't mind. Thanks.

SweetCaroline wrote: Back in 2009, It was understood that American Idol wasn’t ready to crown its first openly gay winner. The same thing happened to Clay Aiken when he was beat by Ruben Studdard.

SweetCaroline wrote: Bill O’Reilly made sure everyone knew Adam was gay the week of the final and the telephone company helped Kris Allen win with special phones in his State. It didn’t matter! Brian and Roger were ready to sign Adam at the finals when he sang with them!

Bullet with Butterfly Wings wrote: No, not quite buying that. Did it ever occur to you that some people just might have liked Kris better and so they voted for him instead of Adam? Do you purposely spout shit? What proof was there that Brian and Roger were ready to sign Adam at the finals? I don't think there's proof of that either. I asked you about that too, and you never proved it. Cause you can't prove those sorts of things, sweetcaroline/CNB. Do you really think you are helping AL with this? He no longer gives TwoFux, yet you are here defending him and throwing out unfounded claims.

Bullet with Butterfly Wings wrote: I still don't think of him as a rock star after reading that. I hope the set list will change somewhat for the UK shows, not expecting it to happen.

happystar wrote: From the moment i clapped eyes on Adam Lambert i knew instantly that Queen had turned shit. How could Brian replace Freddie with that thing? Ok we know Lambo aint replacing Fred but he is still singing Queens back catalogue which to me is very painful to watch and listen too. He also looks awkward on stage and a bad performer, he lacks the energy and zest Mercury had on stage, and yes he is only a glorified west end singer that got lucky, because May was feeling desperate and vulnerable to get out on the road again. Still think Queen could have had guest appearances by various artists to spice the show up, as Lambert is boring and without Queen to back him up would be nothing. Lamberts solo stuff is terrible too. I wonder who writes that crap for him because he cant do anything right apart from been the ultimate fanny in pop music these days. What a proper little princess she is eh !

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam knows who he is. He calls himself a cis male. When he performs Killer Queen in a camp manner he is acting and interpreting the lyrics. He is NOT effeminate and is a sexual beast! LOL

happystar wrote: Freddie loved been "The great pretender" the gay moustache the hairy chest the leather and short hair and he became the part and very popular he was too over in munich were he trolled the gay bars with friends. Adam Lambert could not be butch if he tried, he is a pussy cat.

rockchic65 wrote: Happystar - What difference does it make what Adam is, or portrays. End of the day he's himself, doesn't pretend to be anything other than he is. He plays up the camp with Queen for a couple of songs, not so much with his own stuff but at the end of the day he's gay and happy as he is. Freddie wasn't able to be as open about his sexuality but he still camped it up regardless. Tokyo 79, red lurex playsuit - not much macho about that.

Vocal harmony wrote:

happystar wrote: Freddie loved been "The great pretender" the gay moustache the hairy chest the leather and short hair and he became the part and very popular he was too over in munich were he trolled the gay bars with friends. Adam Lambert could not be butch if he tried, he is a pussy cat.

Really what your saying here is that if you happen to be a gay man the 80's macho clone is OK with you, but anyone who portrays a more camp or character isn't What about early to mid 70's when not on stage and sometimes on Freddie could be very camp, which if any was the real Freddie. Likewise isn't Lambert playing up to the audience. . . Your view of Lambert seems to be based on physical likes and dislikes

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam being camp depends on the song he is performing like in Killer Queen in QAL and Fever in The Original High tour in Manchester: Check out this video on YouTube:

SweetCaroline wrote: Icy, you are pathetic! Get a life!

SweetCaroline wrote: Icy, you are doing it again, making a mountain out of a mole hill on QOL and then you insist that you are not the cause of people getting banned. I am not the only one you have done that to over there. You go on and on and on and love to get the moderator riled up. I can’t say it there but I’ll say it here, stop responding to everything I post and STFU !!!!!

rockchic65 wrote: BwBW I'd like to ask you a couple of questions. You have no obligation to answer. Why doesn't AL play up the camp side with Brian and Roger, and not with his own stuff? Is he wary about camping things up in his solo music? Does he have more freedom with Brian and Roger? Freddie was who he was, and I can safely say this, without Freddie and Queen breaking down barriers,AL would not be where he is today. Many people paved the way for AL. Adam would agree with that about Freddie, he says he's inspired by people like Freddie, David Bowie etc who were androgynous, camp, theatrical. I don't think he's afraid to go camp with his solo stuff I just think he changed styles a bit, especially on the third album/tour. He does do bits that are camp with his solo stuff, but he's dropped a lot of the over the top costumes and make up from the glam nation era. These two clips from interviews explain his thoughts about why he does that more with Queen. link If you listen from where I cued the vid to 8.25 He explains why he camps it up with Queen. link This one is cued to where he explains it a bit as well.

happystar wrote: Vocal Harmony : Not according to some readers and journalists at classic rock magazine for they despise Axl Rose fronting AC/DC. I never actually followed the band because lets face it Brian Johnson could not. sing for toffee and Bon Scott was the only one who gave the band ambience. You cannot compare Queen to AC/DC as far as singers are concerned for Queens Freddie was a hell of a singer something which AC/DC cannot match. That is why many many Queen fans hated the Queen+ combinations. Freddie is just irreplacable and the two remaining members should have gone solo and saved the embarrassment later on in life!

happystar wrote: I hear that AC/DC fans are outraged as Axl Rose is lined up to front there band, so once again here we have the scenario of a great band that is about to get destroyed just like Queen have with Adam Lambert. Axl Rose does not fit AC/DC and they will end up sounding like a tribute band. All these great bands seem to replace band members and they just do not seem the same ever again!

SweetCaroline wrote: Yes, Adam needs his own career and he has more talent in his little finger than some have in their whole bodies so I think he will be just fine!

SweetCaroline wrote: happystar, you are entitled to your strong opinion but the thousands of cheering people in the audience, including diehard Freddie fans, would disagree! I’m not as radical a Freddie fan as some here but I certainly recognize him as the best rock singer/composer/entertainer of all time. But he is not here and Adam IS here and doing a heckuva job fronting the band. IMO the guy who doesn’t get enough credit is Spike! Without HIM there would definitely be no show!

SweetCaroline wrote: The bottom line is Brian and Roger have wanted to tour with Adam no matter what you think and THEY are satisfied that their audiences are accepting Adam and having a good time! They would have stopped a long time ago otherwise. It has been SIX YEARS so it’s past time for the naysayers who have never attended one of these magnificent shows to stop pretending that they know best. They don’t!

SweetCaroline wrote: Read it again! If they didn’t think Adam was a good fit and not being accepted, they would have stopped touring with ADAM! SHEESH !!!!!

SweetCaroline wrote: Queen was snubbed time and time again? Huh, guess who else is snubbed time and time again? Yup, you guessed it — the guy with the one in a billion voice who is the perfect fit for Queen!

happystar wrote: Vocal harmony: I honestly do wonder if you are a Queen hater as you never have a good word for Freddie at all and you are like the Glambert fans always defending him when he has no credibility at all to be even standing on a stage with any legendary group let alone Queen. Queen never won Brit awards in the 80s because they were snubbed time and time again but it was only after Freddie passed away that they thought actually this group is brilliant and we overlooked them! Many of the purist Queen fans just blank what is going on now with the band as they know the best days of Queen are over, Freddie was the best days of Queens life, and now yeah May & Taylor are horsing around because they know it will soon be over. Sure they are still playing live but its not Queen. Queen was 1971 to 1991. I have to applaud (Bullet with Butterfly wings) because that person seems to be on my wavelength and makes good points here to banish all the negative comments vocal harmony & sweet caroline spew out and i do not think they are Queen fans at all. Never heard one positive word vocal harmony has had to say about our awesome Freddie? Dont forget If Freddie never muscled into Brian & Rogers ailing smile group there would be no Queen!

happystar wrote: Vocal harmony: I honestly do wonder if you are a Queen hater as you never have a good word for Freddie at all and you are like the Glambert fans always defending him when he has no credibility at all to be even standing on a stage with any legendary group let alone Queen. Queen never won Brit awards in the 80s because they were snubbed time and time again but it was only after Freddie passed away that they thought actually this group is brilliant and we overlooked them! Many of the purist Queen fans just blank what is going on now with the band as they know the best days of Queen are over, Freddie was the best days of Queens life, and now yeah May & Taylor are horsing around because they know it will soon be over. Sure they are still playing live but its not Queen. Queen was 1971 to 1991. I have to applaud (Bullet with Butterfly wings) because that person seems to be on my wavelength and makes good points here to banish all the negative comments vocal harmony & sweet caroline spew out and i do not think they are Queen fans at all. Never heard one positive word vocal harmony has had to say about our awesome Freddie? Dont forget If Freddie never muscled into Brian & Rogers ailing smile group there would be no Queen!

SweetCaroline wrote: IT’S NOT QUEEN! IT’S QUEEN + ADAM !!!!!

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam definitely is not as active as Freddie who was in constant motion but he does walk, strut, ride a tricycle and dance in 6 inch heels. Also he is 6 feet 2 or 3 so isn’t as mobile as the little guy was! ;-)

runner_70 wrote: AL is the Definition of being "manufactured" and "fake". He is a pretender (and not a great one - pun intended!). He is acting as if he is a Rockstar and he fials miserably. His voice is awful, he is singing the Queen catalogue like Celine Dion and Mariah Carey on dope. He seems to mock the Songs almost - like a bad parody. He Comes across as an arrogant twat. What are the costumes sitting on Franks head have to do with Queen? Or riding a 3wheel bycycle like a retarded Clown. His speech about him not wanting to replace Freddie is scripted and insincere. He is ripping off Freddie in every way he can. His vocal acrobatics are simply annoying. He can hit the high notes but in an embarrassing way. His solo Career is over, when QAL is history he will be back to gay bars and cruiseships-this time being billed as "former Queen singer" (sad again). May and Talor have completely lost it. Especially Roger who sad when QPR were active they have to do something new to avoid being a nostalgia act. THat is what they are. Like all those sad bands like Sweet or Nazareth playing their 30 plus year old hits pretending they are still in their heyday. Pathetic. Seeing Roger inking his whole Body is pathetic as well. The guy clearly has lost it like Brian. They desecrate the Queen legacy with this muppet, and the icing on the cake of bad taste is the crowning of AL at the end. Can it get any more disrespectful? I have never seen a Major Rockband losing it and making themselves completely ridiculous by hiring a casting muppet with no Musical Talent whatsoever. He doesnt fit at all. I lost every respect for them now. Sad seeing them end like this. It is a real tragedy

runner_70 wrote: AL is the Definition of being "manufactured" and "fake". He is a pretender (and not a great one - pun intended!). He is acting as if he is a Rockstar and he fials miserably. His voice is awful, he is singing the Queen catalogue like Celine Dion and Mariah Carey on dope. He seems to mock the Songs almost - like a bad parody. He Comes across as an arrogant twat. What are the costumes sitting on Franks head have to do with Queen? Or riding a 3wheel bycycle like a retarded Clown. His speech about him not wanting to replace Freddie is scripted and insincere. He is ripping off Freddie in every way he can. His vocal acrobatics are simply annoying. He can hit the high notes but in an embarrassing way. His solo Career is over, when QAL is history he will be back to gay bars and cruiseships-this time being billed as "former Queen singer" (sad again). May and Talor have completely lost it. Especially Roger who sad when QPR were active they have to do something new to avoid being a nostalgia act. THat is what they are. Like all those sad bands like Sweet or Nazareth playing their 30 plus year old hits pretending they are still in their heyday. Pathetic. Seeing Roger inking his whole Body is pathetic as well. The guy clearly has lost it like Brian. They desecrate the Queen legacy with this muppet, and the icing on the cake of bad taste is the crowning of AL at the end. Can it get any more disrespectful? I have never seen a Major Rockband losing it and making themselves completely ridiculous by hiring a casting muppet with no Musical Talent whatsoever. He doesnt fit at all. I lost every respect for them now. Sad seeing them end like this. It is a real tragedy

SweetCaroline wrote: happystar, here’s a recent pic of “unfit” Adam zip lining in Hawaii enroute to New Zealand for the next leg of the QAL tour: link

Vocal harmony wrote: If you're judging Freddie's and Lambert's performance on movement, in the late 70's and 80's David Lee Roth wiped the floor with everyone including Freddie!

happystar wrote: Vocal Harmony, There you go slagging Freddie off again, saying David lee Roth would wipe the floor with Freddie. If your a fan the you do not go and say things to belittle your idol and you clearly have. David Lee Roth never stole the show at Live Aid because Freddie did. Some say Live Aid was Freddie Mercury's greatest performance ever !

happystar wrote: Bullet with butterfly wings, i 100% agree with every word on here that you say, although if i had said that Vocal Harmony would have been on my back yet again slagging me off, as he or she is such a negative entity. Yes Queen are crap and i have been saying that since Lambert got involved with May & Taylor but thank god Deacy had more sense to get out while he has his dignity. Freddie would piss himself laughing at how pathetic Queen have become. Mercury always steered May & Taylor away from failure (even Smile) which was going no where until he came along. So thanks for your wise wise words and yeah everyone else on here are bonkers. Queen are those four guys from 1971 - 1991 end of. What is happening now is as you say degrading and the lowest of the low for a rock band that once ruled the rock kingdom which has turned into a joke.

SweetCaroline wrote: Who cares what you think, Icy? LOLOLOLOL

snifflese wrote: Good thing the rest of the world doesn't agree with you people. One of the European shows sold out in under a minute and they are all selling out very quickly. So obviously someone is wanting to see the show, to the tune of hundreds of thousands of people. QAL would not be performing again if nobody was interested. I would say you guys are definitely in the minority, an extremely tiny, miniscule minority! Carp on while others enjoy the music and that is a lot more fun than constantly complaining. Most people want to hear all the hits and they have so many they can't even begin to cover them in 2 hours, much less the obscure songs. They also love Adam and his singing as it is perfect for Queen music. Nobody was too interested in QPR and based on all the reviews, they weren't too good. But everyone wants to see QAL ,(they have bow toured for 6 successful years and people want MORE!!), thanks to Roger, Brian and Adam who are bringing the music to new fans and old fans. That is all a band could ever want. Brian and Roger can't even accommodate all the places that would love a concert! Obviously, no one agrees with you naysayers. The vast majority of concert goers like everything about this show because it just works. I have seen them twice and the last tour in the States was magnificent. I hope they return here!

snifflese wrote: Good thing the rest of the world doesn't agree with you people. One of the European shows sold out in under a minute and they are all selling out very quickly. So obviously someone is wanting to see the show, to the tune of hundreds of thousands of people. QAL would not be performing again if nobody was interested. I would say you guys are definitely in the minority, an extremely tiny, miniscule minority! Carp on while others enjoy the music and that is a lot more fun than constantly complaining. Most people want to hear all the hits and they have so many they can't even begin to cover them in 2 hours, much less the obscure songs. They also love Adam and his singing as it is perfect for Queen music. Nobody was too interested in QPR and based on all the reviews, they weren't too good. But everyone wants to see QAL ,(they have bow toured for 6 successful years and people want MORE!!), thanks to Roger, Brian and Adam who are bringing the music to new fans and old fans. That is all a band could ever want. Brian and Roger can't even accommodate all the places that would love a concert! Obviously, no one agrees with you naysayers. The vast majority of concert goers like everything about this show because it just works. I have seen them twice and the last tour in the States was magnificent. I hope they return here!

SweetCaroline wrote: More Adam fitness — hiking in Oahu: link

SweetCaroline wrote: Icy why do you care so much about what I do or do not post in the QAL forums? You constantly say YOU have the right to post your negative opinions, etc. on threads about Adam Lambert but those of us who have positive ones do not have that same right. Mind your own business and stay out of mine!

snifflese wrote: And you don't think you want and need everyone to agree with your viewpoint, Icy? I don't need anything. I am just putting my 2 cents in. Some of you make it sound like QAL shouldn't even be performing for too many reasons to mention. I am simply pointing out that hundreds of thousands of people have embraced QAL and keep going back to see them. It gets more and more successful and there has to be a reason for that. I also could care less if you go to the concert or not. I chose to and I think it was the best concert I had ever been to and I am entitled to my own opinion. I do not expect you to agree and that is fine. Peope don't always like the same things and concerts are very personal. What I like may or may not suit someone else. I am simply pointing out how successful QAL has been and that hundreds of thousands of people have enjoyed it. I think some die hard Queen fans won't like it just because it isn't Freddie and that is your right. Luckily, many more people think differently.

SweetCaroline wrote: My God, Icy, “Save Me” is the only song you can credit Adam for? That is so pathetic and I am so sick of you saying that! happystar, I think Brian and Roger are as surprised as you that they found such a magnificent “gift from God” singer/entertainer as Adam on American Idol but that is where they found him and they have no regrets. If you live near one of the venues where they will appear in June, I heartily recommend you go and have one of the most enjoyable evenings of your life!

runner_70 wrote: SweetCaroline must be CNB from Queenonline the self declared AL spokesperson and pr assistant. Delusional to the max. Regarding Save Me: I have heard the goat version of AL. Just proof that his voice is thin as paper. While Freddie belted it out with Power AL s version is the lame Westend version of this great power ballad. I agree with happy that no other band made a bigger fool out of themselves like Maylor. Imagine U2 replacing Bono with Lamebird. Laughable. Roger seems to have lost it completely. Did he really ink his complete legs? At almost 70???

rockchic65 wrote: Ooooh this looks like fun. Hello runner_70 or should I call you MW. Let the games begin.

happystar wrote: runner_70 Yeah Desperation for May 7 Taylor now and you would think they have had a good bite of the cherry and call it a day or do something more constructive than look complete twats on stage with that american nellie. I agree with you about Freddie singing "Save me" he always had power in his voice and the way he told the story in his voice gripped me. He actually made you believe the song was about him, and that is what i loved about Freddie, every song he performed was done most sincerely and with heart. i admire some of your comments on here and you are spot on with what you see and feel about this Queen / Lambert tragedy.

runner_70 wrote: Nice to see some familiar glamberts on here-not. They are the Most delusional folks ever. Calling those who despise the goat "trolls". On FB they went so far to copy my profile and steal name/logo etc and make a stolen copied fb profile of me as an AL Fan. Clearly illegal and fb is getting into it but you can clearly see that most if his Admirers are overweight housewives in their fifties who are lusting for hin despite that fact that he is into guys. Pathetic just like QAL

rockchic65 wrote: Someone obviously got tired of his constant vitriol aimed at Adam, probably not even a Lambert fan just sick of the 30 + posts under every comment. They made a profile to look like his and called it Adam's greatest fan, kept posting comments like Adam's adorable, I love Adam etc. He reported it but it hadn't been taken down as of last night.

runner_70 wrote: As i said. Just another proof what his Admirers are like

snifflese wrote: Yea and it's also creepy to keep repeating the same negative crap all over the internet, once is enough. How is that any different than what you say Caroline does? You use derogatory language and make fun of the band with stupid names and just sound juvenile. As far as American Idol, who cares? Once every 10 years a gem is going to come through. Roger and Brian would have been beyond stupid to ignore Adam simply because he was from Idol. Yep, Freddie was awesome and his writing ability and musical ability was something else, but his live performances weren't always so wonderful. Sure he sounded amazing on CD, but I listened to many of the concert you tubes people have posted and Oh, Boy, not so good. He usually couldn't sing in the same key and the vibrato was off the charts and it wasn't necessarily amazing. I listened to Killer Queen several times and it didn't sound like the recording at all. Yea, I am not so sure I would have been impressed as far as concerts go. I am sure there were many off the chart moments, but not all of them. QAL brings it every night and there are no off nights. There is that! Complain all you like, but you don't have to be childish about it with those cute nasty names, that just shows how childish you are. If you are going to post, be a grownup about it. I don't care who you like, but it is the way you go about it!

snifflese wrote: link I just saw this and thought it might have more weight than anything I would ever say. It sounds as if this person is thoroughly acquainted with Queen and has been for many years. He has seen Freddie, Paul and Adam. I thought it interesting that he finds Adam a better fit than Paul. Interesting read! I am not that young so it isnb't a difference in age. I was in my early 20's when I first heard Queen in the 1970's and I have followed them ever since, not at a die hard fan, but back then it was harder to follow a band than it is now on the internet. I bought all their records and loved them, although Brian and then Roger were my favs. I have followed them for over 45 years, so that does make me a fan! As far as opera, we will have to respectfully disagree as to how successful Freddie was. I think it was more the novelty of it than that it was well sung. I have included a link of the Prayer of Adam's singing " The Prayer" which is quite beautiful and kind of an operatic/ classical song. If it doesn't work, it is him singing with Noa Dori. I think Adam would have made big bucks as an opera singer. I love him singing music like this!! The video following this is an excerpt from Brigadoon which is probably my favorite song from him. Try that one! That is what I would love to hear from him! /link

runner_70 wrote: The crown is still there. FOr me that is a Point where they have clearly crossed a line. This was pure Freddie (but he meant it the funny way). Seeing the parrott strut around with the crown you can almost hear his inner voice like "i am the King now" while all he is and stays is a karoke singer living on the laurels of a man who is dead since 1991 and connot defend himself anymore against this nonsense. The Couch Thing was awful. AL playing the "i am the gayest guy on the planet" while Freddie played an awesome piano while he was singing his heart out. This is a Broadway Show not a rockshow.

SweetCaroline wrote: Freddie WAS magnificent and Adam IS magnificent !!!!!

rockchic65 wrote: Just to be clear runner_70 has no idea who faked his profile so no point blaming Glambert's, it could be anyone.

runner_70 wrote: THe usual "Freddie was" and "Adam IS". I can respect the guy when he has 100 Million Albums sold, can Play an Instrument and be recognized as a Musical Icon. Until then he can vanish for good. Happy: we might be twins apart from your U2 hate hahaha. At least we are Queen fans and dont like the goat

rockchic65 wrote: BwBW They did put that but it could have been any of the multitude of people who are fed up of his post's. The sheer vitriol he posts about Adam is probably the reason they did that, regardless if they are a fan themselves. Couldn't care less if he's into QAL or not but his insane hatred for Adam is pathological. His bile isn't just aimed at Adam, Brian & Roger get it in every post as well. It's very clear he's a Freddie fan and in fact said they haven't done anything worthwhile since 1991. Could just as easily have been an actual Queen fan who's sick of seeing him trash Brian & Roger as it could a Lambert fan.

rockchic65 wrote: Easier said than done when he replies to so many innocent comments, people just saying should we go to a friend when there's a show posted and he puts things like "I wouldn't bother, who'd want to see a goat and two pensioners in a sad karaoke act". Not just one comment either but loads under every single post, even one's that are just about Queen and nothing to do with Adam. Not saying I agree with what they did but I can see how they got so fed up of the never ending bile.

runner_70 wrote: Rockchic yes it is indeed true that after Freddies passing there was hardly something worthwile they did under the Queen banner. FIVE Britney Muppets doing BoRhap anyone??? Just destroying the legacy. I would rather listen to Miss Piggy doing a Queen show that listening to Karaoke kid.

runner_70 wrote: They sold lots of their Songs for bad Commercials. And whats that stuff with Roger inking his whole Body now he is reaching 70? The pic from Hawaii seems to Show that he has his whole leg inked? WTF? The only worthwile Things they did as "Queen" they did after 1991 were the Archive Releases and Noone but you. This wouöd hav ebeen the Fitting Epitaph for the Queen Career. Not touring with a casting muppet.

Sealion wrote: @snifflise There is no sense in talking to the runner. Everybody on Queen‘s Facebook page or the German Fanclub forum knows that. He‘s only a troll. I didn’t know about the fake profile and I would never say doing something like that is OK. BUT I had to chuckle after hearing that: the biggest troll I‘ve met on the internet is trolled by someone else... I think in a way it’s completely deserved. And like rockchick said: He trolls Queen-Fans, who go to the gigs, Roger and Brian almost as much as AL or any AL-fan. No chance to say, who set up the fake-account.

SweetCaroline wrote: All of Adam’s performances of “Whole Lotta Love” (over 100 of them) are AWESOME!

SweetCaroline wrote: A lot of people think this one is the best: link

someonewholikesadam wrote: Sorry all you closed-minded idiots. The WLL that SC posted was a brilliant interpretation of that song. He had an entire audience in the palm of his hand (even wearing that ridiculous outfit which he wore because they were on an Indian reservation). Yes, BRILLIANT.

SweetCaroline wrote: Icy has never been mesmerized by Adam in person so she has no idea what she is talking about! LOLOLOL

someonewholikesadam wrote: Inexperienced? Do tell. Cultural appropriation? Maybe. LOL.

Holly2003 wrote: Terrible version of WLL, which sweetcaralarm has posted before in a misguided attempt to 'prove' Lambert is a rock star. He's not, of course. That some are still trying to prove it despite all the evidence to the contrary shows how delusional Lambert fans can be. Lisa Minnelli didn't become a rock star because she sang WATC at the Freddie Tribute show. If Brian and Rog had asked Barbara Streisand to join Queen that wouldn't make her a rock star either. Minnelli/Streisand/Manilow -- that's the style/genre that Lambert is situated in, not rock.

SweetCaroline wrote: Who the heck is Des O’Connor? Minneili/Streisand/Manilow? Are you crazy?

SweetCaroline wrote: I know about Liza at the Freddie tribute: Read this Melbourne review that disses Paul Rodgers and says Adam is PERFECT for Queen music: link

SweetCaroline wrote: As I’ve said before WWFM written by Pink is my least favorite Adam song and it pisses me off that it is the one the dummies at the Grammys nominated him for.

SweetCaroline wrote: I was happy he was nominated but not for that song!

SweetCaroline wrote: Now you know why I don’t like that pathetic song. The Grammys like pathetic songs like Someone Like You and Hello and whatever that pathetic Sam Smith song was.

SweetCaroline wrote: Just heard Time For Miracles at the end of 2012. Should have won an academy award instead of those dumb James Bond songs.

snifflese wrote: I don't think Adam has worn anything more out there than some of Freddie's outfits! WoW, pot calling kettle black. Actually Adam has quite a fashion sense. Most of his clothes are on the runway and very current and quite expensive, although you see him recycling things from years past. He seems to be extravagant, while also being frugal. It is not, I will wear it once and it is discarded like so many stars. I think that is wonderful. For me Freddies's garb was much more out there and really out there considering the time period! Who know what he might wear in 2018. I bet it would be much more flamboyant than anything Adam has chosen to wear.

snifflese wrote: How you can determine what is original and what is not, just boggles my mind! In some regards there is nothing original as fashions, music, art go around and then come around again. I am not arguing by the way. You are all about arguing and winning, when that is not the point at all. Discussing does not have to be win or lose. And I bet Freddie might really like some of Adam's outfits. They are always different and fun!! Been a few losers along the way, but in general he looks good. I really think he has influenced Brian since they often match. Love that!

snifflese wrote: I think Freddie was mentioned earlier in this thread several times, so it is fair to name him. Look lady, there is only one original for guy liner or painted nailsor whatever and you don't go after the other 10's of millions plus people who have done that. Are you going to put out an alert that they are all uninspried and copy cats? Do that, then you might have something more useful to do with your time than post on here! PS Adam has also stated he can't believe his fashion missteps as have all of us! I am not ranting, I think that category belongs to you by a huge margin!

snifflese wrote: I understand all that perfectly. But to Icy and you two other posters it is as if no one can ever sing Queen music or tour with them or anything of that nature. I am not touting Adam as the be all and end all, but I think a lot of the comments are hurtful and not necessarily true. It is only because you won't give anyone else a chance to perform with them. No one says QAL is Queen, but it can be a really good group that people can enjoy. Adam doesn't need to be called names. You like Freddie best and so do most people, but this is they only way Queen's music is going to be heard in concert and I don't think that is such an awful thing. Adam sings the music really well and most people are happy at the end of the day. It is not a pissing contest between Adam and Freddie. As far as Freddie not being mentioned, Icy, that is not what I meant on the tabloid thread. That was a comment purely about the tabloids. It was awful and I can't imagine being in that position, but the comparisons were made and everyone understands and there wasn't much else to say. The tabloid stories were about the gay issue and that, fortunately, is not quite as large an issue as it was then. I actually think Adam's performance at the Music Awards almost derailed his career. That kiss was a killer for his career. I think had it not been for that his career could be quite different. Luckily in 9 years there has been tons of progress. I see gay people kissing on mainstream shows and not an eye is batted (myabe not in some parts of the US, but it is much better). I do think it is still harder for a gay artist, but it is not like in 1991. But to clobber QAL about that and why it wasn't fair that they now give good reviews to QAL. I just didn't see what else there was to say about it. Comparing voices, performing styles, fashions, etc is different. It would be nice to discuss best song, worst song, why it works for their voices and interesting things like that instead of just saying negative things about"Lameturd". That is apalling for a grown person to say! You can't be expected to be taken seriously. It is tiresome to always quarrel about everything.

snifflese wrote: Impossible to talk to you. I must not communicate clearly as you just don't ever get what I said. There is nothing else that I could possible say. I am done with the subject.

snifflese wrote: Icy, you don't seem to realize that a lot of things can be inferred from a person's post that isn't specifically stated. I have read your stuff for almost 6 years and I know exactly what you think. You don't have to spell it out. I am not twisting what you say, I am no sure how anyone could view it differently. You have a huge obsession with Freddie and really dislike Adam and QAL. Someone else might sing a song, but you have a real animus towards Adam since he does it exceptionally well and is getting praise along with the band. That is what you can't abide. NO ONE but Freddie can be praised for singing Queen music. I am not stupid. I understand exactly what you are saying and for you to say otherwise is just plain ridiculous. No one is twisting anything. It is plain to see for anyone who can understand English. You just like to pretend you are fair and open minded and you don't see what is really there. I don't care if QAL gets praise or not, but I get tired of everyone crapping on him and QAL because they just don't deserve t!

snifflese wrote: Icy, you don't seem to realize that a lot of things can be inferred from a person's post that isn't specifically stated. I have read your stuff for almost 6 years and I know exactly what you think. You don't have to spell it out. I am not twisting what you say, I am no sure how anyone could view it differently. You have a huge obsession with Freddie and really dislike Adam and QAL. Someone else might sing a song, but you have a real animus towards Adam since he does it exceptionally well and is getting praise along with the band. That is what you can't abide. NO ONE but Freddie can be praised for singing Queen music. I am not stupid. I understand exactly what you are saying and for you to say otherwise is just plain ridiculous. No one is twisting anything. It is plain to see for anyone who can understand English. You just like to pretend you are fair and open minded and you don't see what is really there. I don't care if QAL gets praise or not, but I get tired of everyone crapping on him and QAL because they just don't deserve t!

snifflese wrote: You live in a make believe world. Rages, really!! I keep telling you this is not 2 year olds getting their own way. That just sounds so incredibly stupid! There is no diiscussing anything with you. You have said the same things, the same way for 6 years. There is no point as I know exactly what you are going to say, just don't know how ugly you might get in your reply.

SweetCaroline wrote: I like what Alirio Netto said about Adam in this interview — that he is the best suited guy to sing Queen songs: link

SweetCaroline wrote: Icy gets the last word again — always — no matter what Forum she posts on! I wonder why that is so important to her?

rockchic65 wrote: Me either, all the upright cabaret stuff is really bad sound quality.

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam rocks!

SweetCaroline wrote: Born To Be Wild Check out this video on YouTube: link

Stick wrote: Only those that are looking for it, spot it. And, seeing as this is a forum, what does having the last word mean anyway? Is there any such thing before a thread gets shut down? Indeed, there isn't. It only exists in the minds of those who want it to exist so they can misuse it to treat others badly. A sign that the person in question has some underlying frustrations he or she cant express in any other way. Sad and childish really but hey what else is new with these types of "people". Its the old straw-man argument. Used by people who are wrong but want to be right so badly they invent something to bitch about. Or, more specifically in this case, used by Adam Lambert lovers who are just as delusional about him as they are about themselves. SSDD. Same people different day. On and on. Does anybody know what they are living for? Another sexual fantasy? Another mindless surrogate son? Behind their words, nothing going on.

SweetCaroline wrote: Stick, Icy is my stalker! I can’t post anything anywhere without her responding to get the last word. I have to stop so she will stop, No matter what I post, she thinks I am posting it for her! That’s all. Maybe instead of denigrating me, you should ask HER why she stalks me?

SweetCaroline wrote: If you can’t stand hearing news about Adam, stop reading and posting thousand word dissertations in the threads with his name on it and leave his fans alone instead of constantly stalking and criticizing them!

snifflese wrote: There is a difference between discussing and berating someone and throwing insults at them which is something you people don't get about it. In one post there was: getting your own way, playing victim, losing it, preteen behavior, no common sense, pushy, obsessed, to name a few! That is not discussing, esp when the whole message was nasty for no good reason. Same crap mentioned every post. We got it about those awful posted pics!! Since this is the typical message sent to a certain person all the time, I am not sure why she gets so upset about about being called a stalker. Now I am not on here posting, she reverts back to attacking CNB. Stick needs to see clearly the crap going on. You just want to clear out anyone who likes QAL. I am out of here for a few more weeks.

SweetCaroline wrote: If you can’t stand hearing news about Adam, stop reading and posting thousand word dissertations in the threads with his name on it and leave his fans alone instead of constantly stalking and criticizing them!

Holly2003 wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: If you can’t stand hearing news about Adam, stop reading and posting thousand word dissertations in the threads with his name on it and leave his fans alone instead of constantly stalking and criticizing them!

forum (noun) definition: a medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged.

SweetCaroline wrote: Spam? Now go back and see what you just did on QOL. The post was about Adam and you posted that you want a comparison with Kelly and Carrie! That’s what YOU do all of the time, Icy! You can’t say anything positive about Adam and demean him and attack others who speak positively about him as defending him as PR. Stop demeaning and there will be no need to defend!

SweetCaroline wrote: The last word stalker has struck again!

SweetCaroline wrote: I watched Queen’s show in Hungary last night on AXS TV and noticed some things I didn’t notice when I watched my DVD previously. Icy and others have complained about Adam’s “antics” on stage. Seriously? He is like a choir boy compared to guys like Steven Tyler or Ozzie Osborne. Icy doesn’t like Adam crawling on the floor during Get Down Make Love. Guess she doesn’t know that Freddie crawled on the floor during Hammer To Fall? Also, Freddie never stops moving, up and down the steps almost like a nervous energy, the energizer bunny!

SweetCaroline wrote: Icy, stop posting like you are some kind of an expert in the music business when in reality you are an annoying twit!

SweetCaroline wrote: If it was bullshit he wouldn’t be performing for 6 years with Brian and Rogers and you and that other twit at QOL who also thinks he is an expert know it. Why do you contiinue to post about someone you can’t stand? It’s really stupid and disgusting!

SweetCaroline wrote: Go away!

happystar wrote: Well it makes more sense for glamberts to move over to there own sites than pitching there sale on here because they are wasting there time. No contest were Freddie Mercury is concerned. Many glamberts have not got a clue about basic Queen education on this site, they are only infatuated with Lambert. Oh well ignorance is bliss.

happystar wrote: Typical Glamberts not bothered about Freddies history it has to be about Adam cos Adam is the bees knees and he is current and he cant play any instrument or write the greatest pop record or even do ballet on stage and ardent Queen fans are taking to Adam etc......... What planet are yous lot on? You constantly crow on that Lambert is god on here and disrespect Queens mega talented Freddie Mercury in favour of that American twit who has nothing to back up his claims that he is super talented ,not one jot. Silly females on here and you wont get taken seriously as its a male dominated site. Please just give up or grow up.

Sealion wrote: I mentioned the years, because I still can hardly believe it myself, how much time has gone by since then. And at the same time I can’t stand people, who behave, as if Freddie would come around the next corner and take over the lead vocals again. I can’t answer the rest of your questions. But here is mine: Why can some people here not believe, that a regular Queen-fan like me does enjoy these shows? And feel therefore offended by some posters behavior towards a member of the current line-up? I‘m out for now, ladies! And remember: The Show must go on! ;-)

SweetCaroline wrote: B & R have said in so many words that they might not be still be touring if not for Adam. There is no way to know whether someone else, other than Adam, might have come along to inspire them to tour again. Question: did the original Queen guys ever perform in an acoustic situation? Freddie was so energetic and animated, I can’t picture him singing while sitting on a stool, other than Love Of My Life alongside Brian.

Sealion wrote: My favourite one: link

Bullet with Butterfly Wings wrote: Tell me something, because I'd genuinely would like to know. Why is it that so many AL fans hate WWYFM? It's odd, it's one of my favorite songs by him.

SweetCaroline wrote: It’s WWFM, not WWYFM ! Whataya Want From Me

rockchic65 wrote:

Bullet with Butterfly Wings wrote: Tell me something, because I'd genuinely would like to know. Why is it that so many AL fans hate WWYFM? It's odd, it's one of my favorite songs by him.

I'd always assumed it was well liked since he always seems to sing it live on tour still, even though it was more or less his earliest release. I quite like it personally, and I've heard a couple of live versions I like as much if not more than the recorded one.

SweetCaroline wrote: Another Adam acoustic: link

Holly2003 wrote: A passable Chris Isaak impression.

SweetCaroline wrote: That’s Adam, not Chris Isaack and a song from his Trespassing album!

SweetCaroline wrote: Not as sad as YOU continuing to post nothing but negativity!

SweetCaroline wrote: The stalker speaketh! Bye!

runner_70 wrote: Dappy is better than Lamebird. I am sure Brian and ROger will look back on QAL and say "WHat were we thinking" if they look back on that dark chapter

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam’s not a rapper and Dappy isn’t a Queen singer!

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam’s not a rapper and Dappy isn’t a Queen singer!

SweetCaroline wrote: Brian recorded with Adam as well: Check out this video on YouTube: link

SweetCaroline wrote: I liked the guy who played Judas in Jesus Christ Superstar and he kind of stole the show from the big names who were heavily promoted while he wasn’t even mentioned. He had played Aaron Burr in the Broadway show, Hamilton.

someonewholikesadam wrote: link BWBW This is how it has to do with Adam.

SweetCaroline wrote: This is an Adam thread so of course it comes back to Adam!

SweetCaroline wrote: I wanted Adam to get the part of Judas in the NBC production but I don’t know if he wanted it, pursued it or was considered for it since he was still doing the QAL shows in Oceania. But I posted about the fella who did perform the role because he was a standout despite not being promoted as much as the other leads in the show!

SweetCaroline wrote: The promos for JCS mentioned John Legend, Sara Bareilles and Alice Cooper but not Brandon Victor Dixon who had played Aaron Burr in Hamilton on Broadway: link

SweetCaroline wrote: I wanted Adam to get the part of Judas in the NBC production but I don’t know if he wanted it, pursued it or was considered for it since he was still doing the QAL shows in Oceania. But I posted about the fella who did perform the role because he was a standout despite not being promoted as much as the other leads in the show!

*goodco* wrote: link So then, dear lass, please provide us with a link of Adam singing JCS. I've sung 'Heaven On Their Minds' on stage decades ago in an audition. I did not have the 'angst' in my vocals when needed, because it tore at my throat. My persona, my look.....it's why I tried out. But I didn't have the overall grit and 'growl'. And I really wanted the part. Oh, and I actually did sing 'Gethsemane' on stage for the show. I would share parts during the rehearsals so that the lead would not strain his voice. I could not do the Ian Gillian or Ted Neely 'anger screams'. We'd actually have someone do a shrill trumpet during those parts, because the director wanted to hear the piercing shrill without ruining 'JC's' vocal chords. So.....I did Simon Zealotes. I had the hair, the tan,....and my crappy facial hair that I could grow then fit like a glove. So......because 'I sang it'....'I could do it' .....and 'it was pretty good'....doesn't qualify. As Lewis Black said above, dear person, 'you are delusional'. btw.....this is going to be fun to hang out here for a spell

SweetCaroline wrote: Here’s an article about Adam being excited regarding Alice Cooper being cast as Herod: link He sang Heaven On Their Minds before appearing on Idol or singing with Queen. I saw Ted Neeley singing “Gethsemane” LIVE and I don’t think anyone else can do that rock scream better than him. John Legend was a good Jesus looks wise but he has more of an R&B voice.

Holly2003 wrote: That was a whore's handbag of a performance. Bloody awful.

SweetCaroline wrote: Here’s a song for you, Icy, from Adam: Check out this video on YouTube: link

SweetCaroline wrote: Yes, bloody awful, just like icy!

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam was fine; the backup singer was bloody awful.

rockchic65 wrote: Like that performance or not, personal taste, but it's obvious there was a mix issue in the first half of the song with the backup singer way too loud.

SweetCaroline wrote: I dedicated Cryin to Icy for the lyrics not the performance. This is one I liked better; Check out this video on YouTube: link

happystar wrote: Adam Lambert will always come across as a plastic talent show contestant, singing legends music because his own music is crap and boring. He is going to fizzle out very soon because his shelf life is waning. His 15 mins of fame with Queen will soon be dust. Just watched the pathetic performance of him on American Idol and he is still got his tongue stuck out and screaming like a goat falling over a cliff. He looks demented and confused on stage, the backing singers sound as mad as he is too. American idol? No never will be but every song he tries to sing sounds like a west end musical panto performance This thread should be taken down now as nobody is using it apart from 3 silly girls who are having problems with there hormones, get a grip girls.

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam’s 15 minutes are the longest 15 minutes in history, breaks the Guinness book of records!

SweetCaroline wrote: Regarding Adam and QAL, am I correct in believing all or most of the videos, periscopes and live streams have been provided by Adam fans and not original Queen fans? If this is true, his fan base is alive and well and will stay with him whenever QAL is completely over. The QAL corroboration is NOT Adam riding on Queen’s coattails because he more than holds up his part of the show without whom there would not be a show!

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam’s solo shows were also faithfully recorded and can be found on YouTube all over the internet! And many of those fans attended more than one show as both Queen fans and Adam fans have done for the Queen shows over the years.

happystar wrote: sweetcaroline: You do make things up as you go along. i cannot imagine any decent ardent Queen fan who wants to bother with Adam Lambert when Freddie meant the world to them. If that was the case then why is there only you and 2 more girls on here fighting Lamberts corner? No one on here gives to hoots on Queenzone to Adam Lamprick.

SweetCaroline wrote: I particularly liked the comments from Queen fans who went to the QAL shows being very apprehensive of Adam and coming away a strong fan and being blown away by the whole spectacular experience!

rockchic65 wrote: Happystar There's a handful of the same people on every post, commenting numerous times against the thousands of likes on the post and all the positive comments, lots from Queen fans sick of the negativity. Even one's who aren't interested in the shows or don't like Adam's voice are still defending him and saying they're happy for Brian & Roger and the fans who do. Just did a quick check on a post from 5th March - 1.8k likes 44 angry faces - do the math, or go read the comments. Oh and Adam won't be fizzling anywhere after QAL, his fans will see to that, they are nothing if not loyal.

Togg wrote: I'm on Facebook, for pretty much all the Queen related sites, and forums and that is nonesense, there are a small handful of the usual suspects that keep posting just like here, and basiclly the only two that post here repeatedly are Happystar and Runner (how's hopefully been banned now..) There about the same amount of hate out there as there was for Paul Rodgers...

Bullet with Butterfly Wings wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: Happystar There's a handful of the same people on every post, commenting numerous times against the thousands of likes on the post and all the positive comments, lots from Queen fans sick of the negativity. Even one's who aren't interested in the shows or don't like Adam's voice are still defending him and saying they're happy for Brian & Roger and the fans who do. Just did a quick check on a post from 5th March - 1.8k likes 44 angry faces - do the math, or go read the comments. Oh and Adam won't be fizzling anywhere after QAL, his fans will see to that, they are nothing if not loyal.

His fans can't tell the future though. Loyalty isn't enough to sustain his career. It takes so much more than loyalty. Can I ask you a couple of questions, ( mainly because you are down to earth, reasonable ) has AL done anything in his career that you didn't like? What are your thoughts about him investing so much time with Q+AL? Please don't feel you are obligated to answer those questions.

SweetCaroline wrote: But you didn’t go to see Paul either and yet you promote yourself as an expert on the matter as well as the live shows with Freddie! What were the attendance figures for QPR compared to those for QAL?

rockchic65 wrote:

Bullet with Butterfly Wings wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: Happystar There's a handful of the same people on every post, commenting numerous times against the thousands of likes on the post and all the positive comments, lots from Queen fans sick of the negativity. Even one's who aren't interested in the shows or don't like Adam's voice are still defending him and saying they're happy for Brian & Roger and the fans who do. Just did a quick check on a post from 5th March - 1.8k likes 44 angry faces - do the math, or go read the comments. Oh and Adam won't be fizzling anywhere after QAL, his fans will see to that, they are nothing if not loyal.

His fans can't tell the future though. Loyalty isn't enough to sustain his career. It takes so much more than loyalty. Can I ask you a couple of questions, ( mainly because you are down to earth, reasonable ) has AL done anything in his career that you didn't like? What are your thoughts about him investing so much time with Q+AL? Please don't feel you are obligated to answer those questions.

I think initially he thought of QAL as just a few shows here and there, not a permanent thing and who wouldn't be happy to play with Bri & Roger, but it snowballed with each appearance and he would have been mad to turn it down IMO. I can see how it might have slowed his solo career down a bit but he manages to still fit other stuff in between times and I can't see it lasting too much longer, at least not on the scale they've been doing it. I think he genuinely loves playing with them and they seem like they have fun. When you say has he done anything I don't like in his career, do you mean music wise or just generally as a person?

Bullet with Butterfly Wings wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Bullet with Butterfly Wings wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: Happystar There's a handful of the same people on every post, commenting numerous times against the thousands of likes on the post and all the positive comments, lots from Queen fans sick of the negativity. Even one's who aren't interested in the shows or don't like Adam's voice are still defending him and saying they're happy for Brian & Roger and the fans who do. Just did a quick check on a post from 5th March - 1.8k likes 44 angry faces - do the math, or go read the comments. Oh and Adam won't be fizzling anywhere after QAL, his fans will see to that, they are nothing if not loyal.

His fans can't tell the future though. Loyalty isn't enough to sustain his career. It takes so much more than loyalty. Can I ask you a couple of questions, ( mainly because you are down to earth, reasonable ) has AL done anything in his career that you didn't like? What are your thoughts about him investing so much time with Q+AL? Please don't feel you are obligated to answer those questions.

I think initially he thought of QAL as just a few shows here and there, not a permanent thing and who wouldn't be happy to play with Bri & Roger, but it snowballed with each appearance and he would have been mad to turn it down IMO. I can see how it might have slowed his solo career down a bit but he manages to still fit other stuff in between times and I can't see it lasting too much longer, at least not on the scale they've been doing it. I think he genuinely loves playing with them and they seem like they have fun. When you say has he done anything I don't like in his career, do you mean music wise or just generally as a person?

Yeah, he sure keeps busy. I don't know how he does it. His professional career, sorry for not explaining that.

rockchic65 wrote:

Bullet with Butterfly Wings wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Bullet with Butterfly Wings wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: Happystar There's a handful of the same people on every post, commenting numerous times against the thousands of likes on the post and all the positive comments, lots from Queen fans sick of the negativity. Even one's who aren't interested in the shows or don't like Adam's voice are still defending him and saying they're happy for Brian & Roger and the fans who do. Just did a quick check on a post from 5th March - 1.8k likes 44 angry faces - do the math, or go read the comments. Oh and Adam won't be fizzling anywhere after QAL, his fans will see to that, they are nothing if not loyal.

His fans can't tell the future though. Loyalty isn't enough to sustain his career. It takes so much more than loyalty. Can I ask you a couple of questions, ( mainly because you are down to earth, reasonable ) has AL done anything in his career that you didn't like? What are your thoughts about him investing so much time with Q+AL? Please don't feel you are obligated to answer those questions.

I think initially he thought of QAL as just a few shows here and there, not a permanent thing and who wouldn't be happy to play with Bri & Roger, but it snowballed with each appearance and he would have been mad to turn it down IMO. I can see how it might have slowed his solo career down a bit but he manages to still fit other stuff in between times and I can't see it lasting too much longer, at least not on the scale they've been doing it. I think he genuinely loves playing with them and they seem like they have fun. When you say has he done anything I don't like in his career, do you mean music wise or just generally as a person?

Yeah, he sure keeps busy. I don't know how he does it. His professional career, sorry for not explaining that.

Yeah he seems to have been in the studio the last couple of weeks so it looks like Album 4 is getting nearer. Music wise I like some of his own songs, a few from each album. I can't say he's done anything in particular I dislike but there's things I think he could have done differently and the AMA's is definitely the one that stands out. It wouldn't have bothered me personally but I think he would have appealed to a lot more people had he done WWFM rather than FYE and just used his voice rather than trying to be edgy, but I get why he probably did it that way. His Glam Nation tour looked pretty out there from the vids I've seen, I think he was trying to be what he thought people wanted and kind of made a rod for his own back, it took a while to shake that off and I think he might have been taken more seriously if he'd done things differently straight off Idol. But that said he's who he is and if he tried to be different it probably wouldn't work and although he probably makes things harder for himself sometimes, I like the fact he won't compromise who he is, it's refreshing.

SweetCaroline wrote: I wanted Adam to sing Time For Miracles at the AMAs and blow the audience out of their seats! That’s why I get so angry about Adele and Sam and their multiple Grammys. I could accept that graciously if Adam had received HIS recognition first!

runner_70 wrote: I am not banned-just bored by lamefart. All has been said. He is alraey forgotten now the tour has paused. Once the tour is over he will be gone for good to divebars and cruise ships again where he belongs this talentless twat

happystar wrote: Thank Queen for keeping his career going because without them Lambdick would be well forgotten about by now.

happystar wrote: Lamby will always be type cast as the american idol that lost! You really can not take him seriously as a rock star, he looks like julian clary singing for comic relief ha ha ha

happystar wrote: All the girls are on this thread supporting a guy that has had not one number one album or single here in the uk ! Astonishing that many think it is ok for a nobody to step into the shoes of a rock n roll god ! Seems looks over talent are in vogue on these sad threads folks ! Lets see if Lamby is around in ten years from now and i am sure he will be fat, penniless and working in a takeaway.

SweetCaroline wrote: ie, Amen to Vocal Harmony! Happystar, are you denying that Freddie was gay and had sex with every gay man on the planet? Yes, he is a rock icon but if you think Adam is a Nellie, then Freddie was, too. Rock icons like Brian and Roger would never give front man duties to a karaoke singer.

SweetCaroline wrote: Another dissertation by the icy stalker! LOL

happystar wrote: Adam Lambert lied on a couch, fanning himself in a very effeminate way, dressed up to the Ts like a Thai ladyboy, welcome to 2018 and this is how British rock band Queen have gone from been so humble and classy in the 70s 80s to a shameful mess with some drag freak act called Adam Lambert! Lambert has dragged May & Taylor down to his pathetic levels.

SweetCaroline wrote: Yes, thank goodness Freddie never performed on stage in onesies and ballet slippers: link

SweetCaroline wrote: Icy, check your reading comprehension! Happystar was mocking Adam for what he did on the couch during Killer Queen calling him an effeminate “nellie” even though everyone with a brain knows it was just a funny act. I responded by posting photos of Freddie in his famous onesie costumes!

happystar wrote: Vocal Harmony You are just a woman who does not take your music seriously, i do see the bigger picture and i am appalled by it. Freddie can do what he wants when he wants because Queen were four original members and actually it was Roger that coaxed the rest of the band to drag up as a tribute to Corrie, Lambert on the other hand takes his dress code seriously where Freddie was tongue in cheek, and i feel Lambert has taken Queen down this freaky road of madness, Sure some folk are easy to please, some are not bothered who fronts Queen but those of us who are serious Queen fans and who do not want to look like knob heads because of Lambert feel very offended with Brian Mays choice of lead singer. Lambert should really have joined the cast of Glee and not Queen.

SweetCaroline wrote: happystar, maybe you should talk B & R into replacing Adam with Ada Vox: Check out this video on YouTube: link

SweetCaroline wrote: Or ..... Or ..... Or ..... LOL

SweetCaroline wrote: Ada is good and she’s a true drag queen! Formerly known as Adam Sanders! Idol has come a long way since Season 8!

happystar wrote: Vocal Harmony You are just a woman who does not take your music seriously, i do see the bigger picture and i am appalled by it. Freddie can do what he wants when he wants because Queen were four original members and actually it was Roger that coaxed the rest of the band to drag up as a tribute to Corrie, Lambert on the other hand takes his dress code seriously where Freddie was tongue in cheek, and i feel Lambert has taken Queen down this freaky road of madness, Sure some folk are easy to please, some are not bothered who fronts Queen but those of us who are serious Queen fans and who do not want to look like knob heads because of Lambert feel very offended with Brian Mays choice of lead singer. Lambert should really have joined the cast of Glee and not Queen.

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam is a gorgeous MAN !!!!!

SweetCaroline wrote: Why don’t you take YOUR crap to the Sam Smith sites if you can’t post respectfully on an Adam thread, whether here or on QOL.

SweetCaroline wrote: And YOU have to stop bothering people on legitimate Adam Lambert threads, questioning their right to post when YOU claim to have the right to post anything your tiny little cold-blooded heart desires!

SweetCaroline wrote:

happystar wrote: Vocal Harmony You are just a woman who does not take your music seriously, . . . . ..

someonewholikesadam wrote: link He's pretty good.

someonewholikesadam wrote: Nothing to do with Queen or Adam ...

Holly2003 wrote:

someonewholikesadam wrote: Nothing to do with Queen or Adam ...

Also nothing to do with Queen or Lambert, here is a pic of an adorable kitten and two ducklings. link

SweetCaroline wrote: I like Cade a lot, but he didn’t make it to the final 3. I think they want another Carrie Underwood! I predict the winner will be the pretty blonde girl, Gabby!

Holly2003 wrote: What kind of a name is Cade? It sounds like a colour God came up with on the 3rd day, then rejected in favour of something less clumsy. Anyway, I googled him and listened to his version of Simple man, which really sucks. The acoustic Shinedown cover is much better. Brent Smith has a powerful voice, and is in control of it. And of course he sounds nice too, which is always useful if you've chosen singing as a career :p link

Holly2003 wrote: According to some random internet site, cade is some kind of middle eastern bush. All well and good except it's an odd forename. Without googling him, and with a name like that, I'd be willing to bet he's American. When I was in the US I was introduced to a girl called "Lark", and it took all my willpower not to laugh.

Vocal harmony wrote:

Holly2003 wrote: According to some random internet site, cade is some kind of middle eastern bush. All well and good except it's an odd forename. Without googling him, and with a name like that, I'd be willing to bet he's American. When I was in the US I was introduced to a girl called "Lark", and it took all my willpower not to laugh.

Why take exception to someone's name and use that as the beginning of a post to point out vocal limitations.

Holly2003 wrote:

Vocal harmony wrote:

Holly2003 wrote: According to some random internet site, cade is some kind of middle eastern bush. All well and good except it's an odd forename. Without googling him, and with a name like that, I'd be willing to bet he's American. When I was in the US I was introduced to a girl called "Lark", and it took all my willpower not to laugh.

Why take exception to someone's name and use that as the beginning of a post to point out vocal limitations.

Are you the internet police now?

SweetCaroline wrote: Shut up, icy! You don’t own all of the sites on the Internet and no one wants to hear your disgusting “POV” even though you think it is the only one that matters! You are the reason that the first Lambert thread on QOL was locked and ultimately deleted because of all of the fights you picked with new posters!

Sealion wrote: What do this year’s idol contestants have to do with Q+AL? Or this thread? Post these links on an idol-forum and stay on topic.

SweetCaroline wrote: Shut up icy! I didn’t start talking about Cade here! What you do at QOL is bait and switch. Whatever I post there you follow up with a negative remark and the moderator gets antsy that it is going to get out of hand. You attack me and others and then if we respond you go on and on and on about it like you are doing here. Only there is no moderator here! So just shut up already. After 6 years you should leave Adam Lambert and his fans alone! Stop it and shut the hell up! It is beyond disgusting!

SweetCaroline wrote: Basta !!!!!

SweetCaroline wrote: Yes, I’m the only Adam fan left because you got all of the other ones banned or they walk on egg shells in fear of getting banned. Speaking of Trump you are just like him—an evil, selfish bully!

Holly2003 wrote: I think you are butt-hurt about something, but that's your problem not mine. Look up the word "anyway" -- a transitional word that I used to separate one point from another. Hence my random comment about his name Cade, then my separate comment about his shit rendition of Simple Man. If you're going to be pick (yet another) fight, at least understand what it is you're taking exception to.

Vocal harmony wrote: This site, more and more seems to be a battle ground of insults and belittlement which I was suprised that someone with some intelligence entered into.

happystar wrote: . . . . . so we will all ignore your loopy posts eh. .

happystar wrote: Lambert is that arrogant thinking he can sing anything when he clearly cannot. He cant even play piano what a knob.

runner_70 wrote: Well calling this screeching "singing" is a lil far-fetched. I really wonder who is listening to this awful coverversions he does. It is really painful

rockchic65 wrote: That Enter Sandman was done as birthday present for Tommy, Metallica being his favourite band and was rehearsed briefly without Tommy, plus he didn't know the words and had them wrote down as he himself said.

runner_70 wrote: Always funny reading those excuses why Lamebird is failing miserably with his covers. Whats his excuse for raping Queensongs and forgetting the words there as well?

Iron Butterfly wrote:

runner_70 wrote: Always funny reading those excuses why Lamebird is failing miserably with his covers. Whats his excuse for raping Queensongs and forgetting the words there as well?

As for forgetting the words, AL had nothing to say about it. But you know, it's ok, Brian and Roger didn't mind him screwing up Bohemian Rhapsody three nights in a row. #someGlambertlogicismindboggling.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

runner_70 wrote: Always funny reading those excuses why Lamebird is failing miserably with his covers. Whats his excuse for raping Queensongs and forgetting the words there as well?

As for forgetting the words, AL had nothing to say about it. But you know, it's ok, Brian and Roger didn't mind him screwing up Bohemian Rhapsody three nights in a row. #someGlambertlogicismindboggling.

He ain't failing at anything, no excuses needed I simply pointed out he was singing it for his bass player's birthday and it wasn't his usual type of thing to sing. He probably didn't expect it to end up being posted on Metal sites and other media but actually the comments were a lot less harsh than on here from metal heads and media outlets - go figure, but then they don't have an axe to grind do they. As to forgetting words, Adam's said in interview he does forget lyrics occasionally, he's hardly gonna stop mid song to address the issue.

happystar wrote: Freddie was entitiled to screw his own songs up, but when someone else sings the Queen songs they need to nail them and not screw up have a bit of respect for the songwriter. if they cannot do that then dont sing them.

happystar wrote: Lambert doesnt copy the original he just forgets the fucking words ha ha ha fake unprofessional and lazy singer

rockchic65 wrote:

happystar wrote: Lambert doesnt copy the original he just forgets the fucking words ha ha ha fake unprofessional and lazy singer

Would you like me to post all the video's of Freddie forgetting words or fucking things up or any other artists for that matter, the curse of YouTube. And no one could ever accuse him of being unprofessional or lazy, if you must put him down at least be accurate.

Vocal harmony wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

happystar wrote: Lambert doesnt copy the original he just forgets the fucking words ha ha ha fake unprofessional and lazy singer

Would you like me to post all the video's of Freddie forgetting words or fucking things up or any other artists for that matter, the curse of YouTube. And no one could ever accuse him of being unprofessional or lazy, if you must put him down at least be accurate.

In happystar's warped reality none of those things ever happened, he'll tell you himself Frddie was perfect etc etc

rockchic65 wrote:

Vocal harmony wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

happystar wrote: Lambert doesnt copy the original he just forgets the fucking words ha ha ha fake unprofessional and lazy singer

Would you like me to post all the video's of Freddie forgetting words or fucking things up or any other artists for that matter, the curse of YouTube. And no one could ever accuse him of being unprofessional or lazy, if you must put him down at least be accurate.

In happystar's warped reality none of those things ever happened, he'll tell you himself Frddie was perfect etc etc

Yeah Freddie was amazing but even he wasn't perfect all the time, no one is live, might as well just listen to a recording if we want perfection.

Vocal harmony wrote: Yeah and that's what makes live gigs special. In the 70's and early 80's Van Halen were spectacular but you never knew what you were going to get vocally from song to song, Freddie was never that bad, and most of the time he was brilliant, but there were times when mistakes and bum notes were heard. I don't think it mattered to most genuine fans who were there for the enjoyment. Of course someone not a million miles away will say that Freddie never put a foot wrong. Mr Lambert does have a more consistent voice than Freddie, and this has not gone unnoticed by a lot of people. Do I think he is as good as Freddie, probably not on many levels but hitting the right notes in key, and not being overshadowed by the Queen machine, Brian and Roger have got the best person for the job.

Sealion wrote: @rockchick65 I agree with what you wrote, and had to chuckle about this sentence: „...it can't be an easy gig following in Freddie's footsteps...“ This might me the understatement of the year. LOL

snifflese wrote: Being able to bring it every night makes one a much better singer than someone who is inconsistent or can only sound good on recorded music. That is part of being a singer or musician and a very important component. No one is going to the opera if the quality of the singer is different every night.

happystar wrote: These Glambert fans think the sun shines out of Lamberts fanny and it doesnt. He is nothing but a musical west end pretender. Vocal Harmony is talking utter rubbish so whats new on these threads. Maybe he works for the gutter press or even the BBC? I am glad that i am the only one on here who actually appreciates the old Queen band and opposes this ridiculous sickening combo from two old men and a reality singer that lost out big time on American Idol. May & Taylor make sure they get the money in by still calling the project Queen to get bums on seats. crafty and many people fall for that drivel, and the price of tickets is day light robbery for your not getting the real Queen band its watered down like Eastenders larger! Some people will throw money at an act that is not a quarter of what it was 35 years ago.

runner_70 wrote: For a "trained singer" this is pretty poor. The teacher has to be a goat right?

runner_70 wrote: I just need to listen to this annoying tool to now that he sucks. you dont need any musical knowledge you sad Glamtart

GrowUpGlamberts wrote: Doesn't matter whether or not you care about QAL - just curious as to what the readers of this board think... Arguments for: - Frontman for a Queen collaboration (performing with established rock stars) Arguments against: - Little-to-no rock material of his own prior to or after his stints with QAL - Lack of energy/charisma; poor reciprocity with audiences - Voice better suited for musical theatre (West End-type or Broadway) - Lacks grit for proper hard rock - Poor control/balance of camp persona onstage - overdone - Unintentionally awkward stage banter - Inadequate discipline for tours (cannot remember lyrics, etc.) - Cannot play any musical instruments (debatable as a necessary trait for any rock star, but putting it here for the sake of completeness) Anything else to add to either list?

happystar wrote: Rockchic: You are the one who has no musical knowledge, you did not know that Dee Snider wore make up and he was with heavy metal gods Twisted Sister who were at a festival this year with Queen & Lambert. There is more to life than worshipping a thai ladyboy

happystar wrote: Wow that was a fantastic post and probably the best post you have ever done on here and to the point. well done mate. i agree with every single word. Many people on the streets who are not true Queen fans probably agree even though they may like a couple of Queen songs. Everyone i have spoken to about it say there is only one man for Queen and that was Freddie, he was the heart of Queen and without him the band is a skeleton ripping the fans off big time.

happystar wrote: Snifflese Never realised this was an english lesson? Never realised you wanted to play teacher on here either. You are a proper gobshite yet your rock knowledge is shite.

runner_70 wrote: Can we close the case now with the result that Lamebird is not a rockstar but a twat and his followers are sad tasteless grannies lusting for a ladyboy

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam doesn’t whine! You are confusing him with Sam!

SweetCaroline wrote: Speaking of Sam: link

SweetCaroline wrote: Some recent tweets: “Holy crap. It’s 2:57am and I’m listening to @adamlambert’s The Original High album for the first time and wow this is SO GOOD” “@adamlambert without question is the greatest male vocalist alive. His talent and vocal range are incomparable. The most magnificent voice I've ever heard vid by @ jojo_adamsx”

happystar wrote: Snifflese Freddie did wear some great costumes but i find that Adam is copying from Freddie to some degree, particularly wuth the leather outfits and the black nail varnish plus the crown and cape is a bit below the belt. As far as dress code goes Lambert is just a Marilyn Manson / Freddie clone but without the fabulous voice Freddie had. Not original in any shape or form.

rockchic65 wrote:

happystar wrote: Snifflese Freddie did wear some great costumes but i find that Adam is copying from Freddie to some degree, particularly wuth the leather outfits and the black nail varnish plus the crown and cape is a bit below the belt. As far as dress code goes Lambert is just a Marilyn Manson / Freddie clone but without the fabulous voice Freddie had. Not original in any shape or form.

Marilyn Manson lol, not even close. Adam isn't copying Freddie he's been wearing leather outfits and black nail polish long before he started touring with Queen, in fact before he ever went on Idol, and he wore leather on Idol quite a bit. The music industry has always been full of guys wearing leather and painting their nails, it wasn't exclusive to Freddie, and Adam's made no secret of the fact that Freddie along with Bowie and George Michael were inspirations for him. As to his voice, that's subjective, he has an amazing voice, just not to your taste.

happystar wrote: Vocal Harmony: We can dispute if Freddie copied Rob Halfords leather look but Freddie had more stylish leather outfits than Rob Halfords motorbike leather looks. Lambert is influenced by Mercury along with others long before he got on to American Idol, but he still copies Freddie's outfits and explain him copying the crown and cape then? Coincidence then? i think not.

SweetCaroline wrote: I’ve said this before — when Adam appears on stage in short short white shorts and nothing else or a black and white geometric onesie with his hairy chest exposed, then you can say he is copying Freddie. The coronet and gold cape he has worn are nothing even close to what Freddie wore!

SweetCaroline wrote: My point, Icy, since you don’t GET anything, is that Freddie was way more outrageous in what HE wore on stage. No, I do NOT want to see Adam wearing short short white shorts or a black and white geometric onesie exposing his hairy chest! I agree that the cape and crown is a tribute to Freddie!

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam knows who he is. He calls himself a cis male. When he performs Killer Queen in a camp manner he is acting and interpreting the lyrics. He is NOT effeminate and is a sexual beast! LOL

happystar wrote: Adam wont have a hairy chest cos he aint a real man ha ha ha

rockchic65 wrote:

happystar wrote: Adam wont have a hairy chest cos he aint a real man ha ha ha

Wrong again he has a very hairy chest, so not sure where that leaves your real man theory.

happystar wrote: Rockchic Did he stick it on with glue then ? lol

SweetCaroline wrote: Sexy beast ..... link

SweetCaroline wrote: Yup ..... link

SweetCaroline wrote: Oh icy go away! You have no sense of humor!

snifflese wrote: I think she is getting your goat, since she knows you go ballistic about it at this point!

SweetCaroline wrote: For icy — Adam’s buff body ..... link

SweetCaroline wrote: But icy dear, I posted it just for you !!!!!

happystar wrote: iron butterlfy That "Vocal Harmony" is insane when he said on my other thread about The Game been Queens greatest 80s album and i quote : There are other better performers than Queen who had better albums ! If he is a Queen fan he is totally hypocritical. I do not think he is a Queen fan and he never appreciated Freddie like many did.

happystar wrote: Vocal Harmony: How wrong you are as per usual. You like to twist the knife to suit yourself and get people on your side as usual. i do admire all Queen members and you chose to turn my thread into an argument because your that sort of person that likes to argue on Queenzone, we all know your a cunt so stop playing the fucking martyr.

happystar wrote: VH Abusive insults well i learned from the best i learned from you ha ha ha

snifflese wrote: When people have to change their names to post, that is never a good sign!!

SweetCaroline wrote: Sooo, Mr. Runner, who do YOU think should be touring with B & R instead of Adam? Who is the current “rock star” who could have been a better frontman — voice, charisma, range, energy, excitement?

runner_70 wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Sooo, Mr. Runner, who do YOU think should be touring with B & R instead of Adam? Who is the current “rock star” who could have been a better frontman — voice, charisma, range, energy, excitement?

Soto, Cherone, Martel etc. All better than the annoying fake twat. BTW I think Maylor should tour on their own in intimate places playing deep cuts instead of making a laughing stock out of themselves with Lamebutt

Vocal harmony wrote:

runner_70 wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Sooo, Mr. Runner, who do YOU think should be touring with B & R instead of Adam? Who is the current “rock star” who could have been a better frontman — voice, charisma, range, energy, excitement?

Soto, Cherone, Martel etc. All better than the annoying fake twat. BTW I think Maylor should tour on their own in intimate places playing deep cuts instead of making a laughing stock out of themselves with Lamebutt

Martel has a great voice if your looking for a Freddie sound alike, but that's not what they want or need he also is not that animated and I believe would appear out of his depth in an arena setting. Cherone wasn't excepted by the Van Halen masses, not sure if he would have worked in Queen despite what Extreme did at the Freddie tribute, I think he's a guy who is loved by Extreme's diminishing fan base, but few others. Jef Scott Soto, is friends with Mr Taylor, almost replaced Rodgers mid way through a tour and is a huge fan of the band's music. He did a great Queen set with his band a few years ago. He would be my choice. Lambert got the role by chance and Brisn and Roger seem very happy with the guy they've got. And although you don't like him many do, so maybe your view doesn't matter.

SweetCaroline wrote: More complete version: link

SweetCaroline wrote: That SAG-AFTRA performance did not have the same backing as the spectacular performances with Brian in Vegas and had spotty taping from people in the audience: link

SweetCaroline wrote: He was 100%. I’m talking about the setting, backing musicians and hit and miss video taping.

SweetCaroline wrote: Ha! At least he didn’t stop and start over like your heroine does. Maybe he was nervous singing in front of Harrison Ford and Spike Lee? LOL

SweetCaroline wrote: Ha! At least he didn’t stop and start over like your heroine does. Maybe he was nervous singing in front of Harrison Ford and Spike Lee? LOL

MisterCosmicc wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Ha! At least he didn’t stop and start over like your heroine does. Maybe he was nervous singing in front of Harrison Ford and Spike Lee? LOL

What?

rockchic65 wrote: Or maybe he was still upset about the shooting in California, he was having a baaaaaaaaaaaaad day yesterday.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: Or maybe he was still upset about the shooting in California, he was having a baaaaaaaaaaaaad day yesterday.

I read some of his tweets. I'm sure that shooting upset him, as they all do. If that was the reason for it, it's very understandable.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: Or maybe he was still upset about the shooting in California, he was having a baaaaaaaaaaaaad day yesterday.

I read some of his tweets. I'm sure that shooting upset him, as they all do. If that was the reason for it, it's very understandable.

Yep I think he'd had enough of fans sniping in his twitter/instagram comments every time he posts anything meaningful and not just fluff and his post about the shooting seemed to be the final straw.

Iron Butterfly wrote: What were the fans doing? I don't follow his social media often to be honest. I don't blame him if he was upset by the shooting. And believe me or not, I don't blame him for tweeting what he did about changes needed. He is right.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: What were the fans doing? I don't follow his social media often to be honest. I don't blame him if he was upset by the shooting. And believe me or not, I don't blame him for tweeting what he did about changes needed. He is right.

I don't often read comments under his posts so I'm not sure but previously whenever he posts anything related to politics, even just urging people to vote or about LGBTQ rights I've heard his fans start arguing between each other and it can get nasty. Some seem to think he should shut up and stick to singing like he's not entitled to have an opinion about anything and obviously other fans weigh in and it gets ugly. I'm guessing from his other tweets the same thing happened about gun control etc.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: What were the fans doing? I don't follow his social media often to be honest. I don't blame him if he was upset by the shooting. And believe me or not, I don't blame him for tweeting what he did about changes needed. He is right.

I don't often read comments under his posts so I'm not sure but previously whenever he posts anything related to politics, even just urging people to vote or about LGBTQ rights I've heard his fans start arguing between each other and it can get nasty. Some seem to think he should shut up and stick to singing like he's not entitled to have an opinion about anything and obviously other fans weigh in and it gets ugly. I'm guessing from his other tweets the same thing happened about gun control etc.

anadamfan wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: What were the fans doing? I don't follow his social media often to be honest. I don't blame him if he was upset by the shooting. And believe me or not, I don't blame him for tweeting what he did about changes needed. He is right.

I don't often read comments under his posts so I'm not sure but previously whenever he posts anything related to politics, even just urging people to vote or about LGBTQ rights I've heard his fans start arguing between each other and it can get nasty. Some seem to think he should shut up and stick to singing like he's not entitled to have an opinion about anything and obviously other fans weigh in and it gets ugly. I'm guessing from his other tweets the same thing happened about gun control etc.

There are fans of a different political opinion. They think Adam as an artist shouldn‘t voice his opinions on politics. It‘s not a fight between fans. It‘s „fans“, who tell Adam to shut up. Or that he‘s simply wrong.

bas wrote: No, compared to Freddie, Adam doesn’t even come close to a rockstar. Freddie = exceptional great voice and entertainer, poser in a good way Adam = good voice, but poser in bad way, like a caricature Just my 2 cents...

bas wrote: As both are very extravagant frontmen, but imho in a totally different way . With Freddie it was mostly in good style, and always for the good regarding the song, music, performance, etc. And even at times he was a bit over the top or a bit less tasteful (for instance wearing the fake plastic boobs on stage in South America while singing I Want To Break Free), even then I think he could het away with it as he had achieved so much in music and was doubtless top-notch. For me, with Adam Lambert it’s totally different. The times I’ve seen him perform with May and Taylor, it made me cringe in horror. He had a good voice, but for pop or musicals, less for rock. However his performance (his clothes, the way he acts and moves and interacts with the public is way too forced, too much drama, too much camp. I would almost call it kitsch. It’s too much, and all seems for the benefit or glory of Adam Lambert, instead of the song/music/performance. Almost like the sun king Louis XIV who pulls all the attention towards him. Now I wouldn’t mind if he just did that when he was playing his own music. But while playing with May and Taylor Queen songs, I think he’d better could’ve behaved on stage in a way like Paul Rodgers. Mind you, I don’t say he should copy Paul Rodgers as each one has his own style. But Paul seemed more prepared to take a modest role, without the need to overshadow May, Taylor, Queens music and legacy. I won’t go so far to say that this is Adam’s real intention, but nethertheless it’s a too much of an ‘Adam show’ for me. But hey, maybe I’m just an old bastard.I immediately admit that I’m one of those old school Queen fans, for whom Queen stopped when Freddie died and John called it a day. ??

Sealion wrote: I‘m also an“old“ Queen fan, who really disliked the collaboration with AL in the beginning. After I actually saw them live in 2015, I changed my mind. Yes, some of Adam’s movements on stage are not my cup of tea. Neither were some of Freddie’s back in the day. ;-) I saw AL at one of his solo concerts. I only went, because I couldn’t let my daughter go alone and wifey said no... In the end it was an eye-opener for me. The thing I noticed was, that his stage persona was very different from the persona on the Queen stage. He’s still the entertainer, but he had 3(?) acts. In each he wore a different costume and sung songs, that had a „theme“. I think it was 1. dark side, 2. love 3. dance ? That’s how I would have called it. However, it showed, that the guy structures a whole show. He behaves on stage the way, he thinks is fitting. The first act had new, powerful songs, an extravagant outfit and really brought the level of excitement up. He sung, danced a bit in one or two songs, stood still for another one. Great start. The second act was sung in a suit and was completely stripped back. He sang calmer ballads. The last act he went all out, dancing and his over the top moves were back. And a fun outfit, that looked more like a pyjamas than like a stage outfit. What I learnt: AL structures a whole show like a musical event. He isn’t always that crazy performer, he can be a completely stripped back calm one. He just doesn’t do it for Queen, because that’s not Queen for him. That last one I got from one of his interviews. I also saw, that he has learnt a lot from Queen about how to put together a setlist and a show. Thinking about it, I can also clearly see AL‘s handwriting on the current Queen show. In the way he creates a show and plans how to perform a song, Lambert isn’t a rockstar. My problem: Freddie was similar in planning and taking on a show. And he is considered a rockstar.

SweetCaroline wrote: I never saw a live show with Freddie but from the videos I’ve seen my impression is that HE was the whole show and completely overshadowed the other 3 band members. And quite the opposite, Adam constantly fades into the background when Brian is playing a solo. So I have the opinion that Adam shows great respect to the others and does NOT hog the spotlight. He is flamboyant but his outfits are tasteful and actually modest compared to all of the skin Freddie liked to show.

SweetCaroline wrote: I never saw a live show with Freddie but from the videos I’ve seen my impression is that HE was the whole show and completely overshadowed the other 3 band members. And quite the opposite, Adam constantly fades into the background when Brian is playing a solo. So I have the opinion that Adam shows great respect to the others and does NOT hog the spotlight. He is flamboyant but his outfits are tasteful and actually modest compared to all of the skin Freddie liked to show.

SweetCaroline wrote: I’m not throwing shade at Freddie. I have watched whole Queen concerts from Wembley in 1986 and Hungary, etc. My observation is that Freddie was the energizer bunny who never stopped moving when he was away from the piano, constantly running up and down ramps or sashaying across the stage. And that is fine, but don’t say that Adam hogs the spotlight when he does not. There are periods in the QAL show when he is not on the stage at all. If you haven’t been to a live QAL show or watched a full concert video, you cannot know what really takes place. I love Freddie and totally recognize his amazing talents and persona but it is not necessary to demean Adam or wish he was as boring as Paul Rodgers. They are all unique and should be appreciated as such.

SweetCaroline wrote: I’m not throwing shade at Freddie. I have watched whole Queen concerts from Wembley in 1986 and Hungary, etc. My observation is that Freddie was the energizer bunny who never stopped moving when he was away from the piano, constantly running up and down ramps or sashaying across the stage. And that is fine, but don’t say that Adam hogs the spotlight when he does not. There are periods in the QAL show when he is not on the stage at all. If you haven’t been to a live QAL show or watched a full concert video, you cannot know what really takes place. I love Freddie and totally recognize his amazing talents and persona but it is not necessary to demean Adam or wish he was as boring as Paul Rodgers. They are all unique and should be appreciated as such.

Sealion wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: I’m not throwing shade at Freddie. I have watched whole Queen concerts from Wembley in 1986 and Hungary, etc. My observation is that Freddie was the energizer bunny who never stopped moving when he was away from the piano, constantly running up and down ramps or sashaying across the stage. And that is fine, but don’t say that Adam hogs the spotlight when he does not. There are periods in the QAL show when he is not on the stage at all. If you haven’t been to a live QAL show or watched a full concert video, you cannot know what really takes place. I love Freddie and totally recognize his amazing talents and persona but it is not necessary to demean Adam or wish he was as boring as Paul Rodgers. They are all unique and should be appreciated as such.

What’s you point? Of course Adam grabs the spotlight for a whole bunch of a gig. He’s the frontman. So he should do it. It would even be wrong, if he didn‘t. Yes, Brian and Roger have their own solo spots in the set. Much more than with Fred. And AL honors them. Because they are Queen. Adam is not. He’s a guest. They call him family, yes. But the Queen fans want to see Brian and Roger up and in the front as well. Back in the day it was different. You can’t compare Queen and Queen + Adam Lambert. As the name already tells: it’s not the same.

bas wrote: Sweetcaroline, so you tell us we should see some Adam concerts, when you yourself have only seen concerts of Queen with Freddie from The Magic Tour ?!? Girl, you still got some serious work to do if you have a big mouth about Queen with Freddie and want other people to take you serious on a Queen forum. Go watch Queen concerts from the 70’s (start with 74 Rainbow, 75 Odeon, 76 Hyde Parc, 79 London& Paris) and early 80’s (81 Montreal, 82 Milton Keynes, 85 Rio de Janeiro). Listen to studio albums and bootlegs from these era’s and then come back and throw your opinions on the forum. You’ll see that people will take you far more serious, whatever your opinions are then.

SweetCaroline wrote: Go to the moviei, Icy, and tell us what you think. I thought you were going this weekend.

SweetCaroline wrote: Icy, stop making yourself into a Freddie expert when you didn’t even know who he was until after he died, I was watching Live Aid and Bo Rhap and other music videos on MTV long before that when he was still alive.

SweetCaroline wrote: Just got back from a local community little theatre production of “The Addams Family’ where my daughter used to perform. Very cute musical based on the old TV show.

SweetCaroline wrote: Bas, I have the Rainbow 74 and Montreal concerts. I know what Freddie did on stage. He was great. I listened to the whole Greatest Hits I and II driving to and from the live QAL opening night concert in Chicago in 2014. I regret never seeing Freddie and Elvis in live concerts. But I was too busy having babies in 1971 and 1973.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Just got back from a local community little theatre production of “The Addams Family’ where my daughter used to perform. Very cute musical based on the old TV show.

What does that have to do with anything being discussed here?

SweetCaroline wrote: I admit I didn’t know about Track 13 until I was being mesmerized by it sitting in the United Center in Chicago. Then I got Made in Heaven so I could play it at home. In the 90’s I was a single mother working full time, taking care of two teens/college students, two dogs and a widowed mother. So I didn’t have the time to know everything about the music industry. When I retired in 2007 I became a busy Grandma and I do have Adam to thank in 2009 for helping me to catch up on the music I had missed in those very hectic years when I was literally juggling about 14 things at a time.

SweetCaroline wrote: When I first came to QOL I was not welcomed warmly. All I heard was how Adam sings like a goat! A recent tweet by Guilliarme Pare, whoever he is: “DAMNNNN @adamlambert you sir rock the hell out of Queen. Congrats BOY !!”

SweetCaroline wrote: Glam rocker with the best of them, including Mercury, Bowie, Elvis, Bono and Michael Jackson!

MisterCosmicc wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Glam rocker with the best of them, including Mercury, Bowie, Elvis, Bono and Michael Jackson!

Glam rockers have guitar, drums, bass, and sometimes piano!

rockchic65 wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Glam rocker with the best of them, including Mercury, Bowie, Elvis, Bono and Michael Jackson!

Glam rockers have guitar, drums, bass, and sometimes piano!

You mean like Adam has on his solo tours?

MisterCosmicc wrote: His songs aren't rock. He hasn't even released a rock song yet.

rockchic65 wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: His songs aren't rock. He hasn't even released a rock song yet.

Not yet maybe. It was his choice, they wanted him to do that on the first album but he wanted to do pop unfortunately.

MisterCosmicc wrote: He's definitely not a hard rock vocalist. Bubblegum pop, yes. He didn't want to release rock music, because he knows he doesn't have the voice for it. We leave that to Freddie Mercury!

rockchic65 wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: He's definitely not a hard rock vocalist. Bubblegum pop, yes. He didn't want to release rock music, because he knows he doesn't have the voice for it. We leave that to Freddie Mercury!

He can sing rock but not the Freddie kind, he's more hairband rock/metal which is probably what they wanted him to do.

bas wrote: Lame Bert can sing rock?!? WHOEHAHAHA. NO HE CAN’T. NOT. EVEN. CLOSE He’s a cheap cabaret sort of singer. He can’t sing for shit!!! WHOEHAHAHA!!

SweetCaroline wrote: Have any of you rock “experts” been to a live Adam solo concert? If not, you don’t know what you are talking about. He takes those so-called pop songs from his albums and rocks the hell out of them!

Lamebert whoehahaha wrote: We don t need to go to concerts of Lame Bert. Youtube says enough. He can suck cock, but can’t sing rock. Not even when his life depended on it. But you fangirls will swallow everything what he serves. Even if it’s utterly crap.

bas wrote: Troll? Maybe you should accept that there are (a lot of) people who really detest what Adam is doing with Queen. And realise there are even far more Queen fans than the visitors of Queen+AL concerts, who are fans for 20, 30 or 40 more years, who don’t like the way Maylor and AL are treating the Queen legacy at all. People who were already fan when you weren’t even born yet. I’ve been a fan since 1984, so don’t talk of a troll when I’m critisizing AL.

SweetCaroline wrote: I’ve never seen this from Strictly Come Dancing in 2015: link

SweetCaroline wrote: I’ve never seen this from Strictly Come Dancing in 2015: link

SweetCaroline wrote: I’ve never seen this from Strictly Come Dancing in 2015: link

Iron Butterfly wrote: Lies right through your fingertips...

MisterCosmicc wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: Lies right through your fingertips...

Crazy! She's losing a grip...