QueenZone discussion #1494135
Brian gettin' old
| Queenman!! 21.11.2017 16:35 |
We recently had a discussion about the setlist so far and how it changed almost zero compared to the start of Queen and AL 5 years ago. I'm feelin more and more frustation about the whole Queen Brand and everything involved to it. * almost similar setlist for 5 years now * 1 day rehearsal for the Europe tour * dropping NOTW songs after a few gigs * dissapointed NOTW box release. (Except CD2) * Brian's videos seeing him cycling on a machine ( Why not some backstage footage of the show, rehearsals, makin a Queen product etc. What is wrong with these guys?? How do you guys feel about it. |
| RS_Protos 21.11.2017 16:54 |
( Why not some backstage footage of the show, rehearsals, makin a Queen product etc. ) sacred stuff, LOL, will never happen. Hey, at least you get the selfie videos, LOL, not sure what so exciting about that..................that's getting old too. I was surprised he made "Last Hoizon" instrumental version available once for guitarist but that has been it. It's all a business, just like they made people(some) believe there's nothing in the vaults............. |
| Sebastian 21.11.2017 16:54 |
It's not compulsory for him to do what we want him to do. Whoever's not interested in the concerts with Adam (e.g. myself) can simply refrain from attending, it's that simple. Same if you don't wanna watch his workout videos or read his tweets. |
| Oscar J 21.11.2017 17:26 |
Yeah, I generally tend to stay away from their/his current activities. I appreciate Queen and Brian mainly as songwriters and performers, so there's not really that much in it for me. There's enough demand and appreciation for the same old show though, the awkward selfies and rants about various inconveniences, so why would they stop? :) |
| Queenman!! 21.11.2017 19:29 |
Sebastian wrote: It's not compulsory for him to do what we want him to do. Whoever's not interested in the concerts with Adam (e.g. myself) can simply refrain from attending, it's that simple. Same if you don't wanna watch his workout videos or read his tweets.------------------------------------------- Of course you have a point if not interested refrain, but it's good for people to speak out their unbelieve and dissapointment about the band they grew up with. |
| people on streets 21.11.2017 21:24 |
What's that good for exactly? Like Sebas says: stay away from it if you don't like it. Brian, Roger, John & Jim don't owe you anything. They can do whatever they want. |
| matt z 21.11.2017 21:31 |
Well. Get used to it. It's not going to change. There's no demand except among hard core fans for anything concerning the early days or crazY tour heck...even INNUENDO Lower your expectations and try not to let it stress you I'm sure there'll be a few more frivolous items before there's anything good |
| Golden Salmon 21.11.2017 23:21 |
I wish I was a badger. Whenever Brian hugged me, I would whisper in his ear: *growl* release the Anthologies... *growl* |
| Nitroboy 21.11.2017 23:28 |
No shit there's no demand for anything of interest. The band is constantly acting as if all they ever made was Greatest Hits 1 & 2. |
| matt z 22.11.2017 02:44 |
They've done the hot sauce. Monopoly. The tea set. ...I'm just wondering what's next INSTEAD of a DVD/blu-ray set of 70's gigs modestly priced to sell. I'm telling u...they should've copied KISS and did a QUEENOLOGY by 7 year sets or something. Containing mini docs promos and sequential shows from different tours. 3 4DVD sets would cover it. Might get redundant to some but that's why the price would be right. At least THAT would get maximum respect and turn heads to these kids going to these Lambert shows. Whaaaaaa??? "QUEEN were a ROCK band???" My money is on a Jim Beach life size bust/coin bank. Glasses, Hawaiian shirt etc. Electronic bank that says "PROPERTY OF QUEEN PRODUCTIONS" everytime you drop a coin in. Also a band photo spread and bio sheet featuring information only of Brian May ;-) |
| john bodega 22.11.2017 03:17 |
What are you on about?! The setlists have been pretty risky, live and dangerous |
| Queenman!! 22.11.2017 07:45 |
john bodega wrote: What are you on about?! The setlists have been pretty risky, live and dangerous----------------------------- playing WWRY and WATC since 1977 and only play GDML and wrap this as a celebration of the 40th anniversay of NOTW is quite lame. |
| mr mason 22.11.2017 08:00 |
I had tickets for Manchester next month, i sold them last week,was only gonna go to hear 'Its Late' & 'SYW', the Yanks got a taste, we get fuck all,they are an English band, they should be loyal to their homeland! |
| Dr Magus 22.11.2017 10:51 |
They are only loyal to their bank manager i'm afraid. |
| bradbobly 22.11.2017 11:46 |
Yes, Brian and Roger are both getting old...as we all are sadly. I have just watched Phil Collins rehearse for his upcoming tour. Closed my eyes, listened and sounds great as always, open my eyes and see a frail old man that can hardly stand up...very sad. I have been a Queen fan since 1978, i have been fortunate to see them live many times, also as solo artists and as Queen +. I got to thinking what my expectations were when i first saw them live as a naive young 14 year old...the only song i wanted them to really play was Keep yourself alive...funny the opening riff still sends shivers down my spine for some reason. Do i agree with all the recent products...no Do i want to listen to Brian rant on about politics and badgers...no So i choose what i purchase and do not read what Brian has the perfect right to say on the subject of badgers. I look at it this way, if i was into Queen music, did not get a chance to see them live back in the day, but was able to see Brian and Roger still perform to a high standard with excellent production values the songs i loved i would happily take it. This tour is not for me personally so i will not part with my hard earned money but i fully understand why it will please a lot of people in its current format. I have my own memories of the original band who for me personally ( having seen many many bands such as The Who , The Stones , Genesis, Police ) were the greatest live band of all time |
| Togg 22.11.2017 12:00 |
Age plays a huge part in what a band will or will not do, speaking as someone that has played in a band for nearly 40 years now I can tell you that you do adjust your set to reflect how you feel and what you are capable of doing, they are not angry young men anymore..... get over it, Queen have always had slightly odd ideas of what the fans wanted, in much the same way that Zepplin never released singles at the height of the single market, it somehow worked and kept them apart from 'other' bands, I think in some ways the fact that Queen show little of the how things are recorded and outtakes does leave tham also slightly apart from others and maintains the mystery, or maybe misery! Fact is you can watch the same old shows on DVD for the rest of your life but if you want to see a glimmer of what made them so great go see them, they can still put on one of the best rock shows out there |
| bucsateflon 22.11.2017 15:53 |
Brian and Roger are great in what they do with Queen. |
| N0_Camping4U 27.11.2017 01:47 |
Sebastian wrote: It's not compulsory for him to do what we want him to do. Whoever's not interested in the concerts with Adam (e.g. myself) can simply refrain from attending, it's that simple. Same if you don't wanna watch his workout videos or read his tweets.If you don't like what the OP says, it isn't compulsory for you to reply or for him to do what you want him to do. Whoever's not interested in his topic/ideas can simply refrain from replying or trying to project their opinion on what someone should say or do, it's that simple. Same if you don't want to read what he says in other topics, or anyone for that matter, if they don't correspond with exactly how YOU want someone to think. Hope this helps. |
| Iron Butterfly 27.11.2017 05:38 |
I find this tour the least exciting of all the Q+AL tours. I stand by my views that it could have been so much better. |
| Sebastian 27.11.2017 07:59 |
N0_Camping4U wrote: If you don't like what the OP says, it isn't compulsory for you to reply or for him to do what you want him to do. Whoever's not interested in his topic/ideas can simply refrain from replying or trying to project their opinion on what someone should say or do, it's that simple. Same if you don't want to read what he says in other topics, or anyone for that matter, if they don't correspond with exactly how YOU want someone to think.Yeah, I agree. It also applies to your reply to my reply. |
| Vocal harmony 27.11.2017 14:02 |
This ^^^^^ |
| kosimodo 27.11.2017 19:11 |
Yup, tvey are getting old... just like me. And i absolutly enjoyed this tour. Sound was perfect. Show fantastic. Compare it to paul rogers or any other band.. they are still amazing! |
| N0_Camping4U 28.11.2017 00:23 |
Sebastian wrote:Fantastic. I was hoping you'd be able to deduce the utter redundancy in your post to him. I had hoped my post would allow you to take a step back and not feel so compelled to post your own thoughts on how others should live their life and how to think.N0_Camping4U wrote: If you don't like what the OP says, it isn't compulsory for you to reply or for him to do what you want him to do. Whoever's not interested in his topic/ideas can simply refrain from replying or trying to project their opinion on what someone should say or do, it's that simple. Same if you don't want to read what he says in other topics, or anyone for that matter, if they don't correspond with exactly how YOU want someone to think.Yeah, I agree. It also applies to your reply to my reply. Glad my post was able to reach you. Feel free to reply to this, I know you must. |
| Sebastian 28.11.2017 01:21 |
No, it's not a must, it's a choice. I'm not compelled to tell anyone else how to think or how to live, I've just got as much right as you or anybody else to suggest a favourable choice (in this case, ignoring) if I feel so inclined. If someone's annoyed at Brian and Roger touring with Adam they can simply refrain from seeing them live. It's not an order, it's not a rule, it's not a law, it's just a comment. A Captain Obvious sort of comment, but a comment nonetheless. Then again, if you criticise the fact I'm allegedly telling others what to do, while you're doing the same to me, then you're in no position to moan about it anyway. |
| N0_Camping4U 28.11.2017 02:36 |
Oh not moaning, I don't care, just pointing it out to you as you seem oblivious. I see you doing it in just about every topic. Hope this helps. |
| Sebastian 28.11.2017 04:12 |
There are hundreds of threads in this forum, I seriously doubt I'm 'doing it in just about every topic.' If you don't care and still took the time to write to me about it and then check my response, then I wonder what you'd do if you did care. You seem oblivious of that as well. The strategy's quite sneaky, though: had I refrained from replying to your previous post, it may have looked like you'd 'won' by 'shutting me up'; since I did reply, it may look like you were right and I had some sort of uncontrollable desire to keep arguing, thus having you 'win' in that case as well. |
| Queenman!! 28.11.2017 09:11 |
What can we make of these quotes by Brian ??? Really their last tour?? **Yes, still grateful ... but the amount of energy in one body has a finite limit ! ** what the back of the tour T-Shirt says ! You start to ponder what you took on, and how many days you have left to make these kinds of choices. **Around this point in the tour, you start to ponder ... **Good Morning ! Back on the horse ! We're bound for Dublin's fair city. Where the girls are passing pretty. Nice day for it ! I'm grateful to see the Sun. And grateful to be healthy enough to do this. **Another day, another exercise bike !!! It's the best way to start the day ! Kick-starts the body and clears the brain ! I feel .... erm .... GOOD ! |
| bradbobly 28.11.2017 10:07 |
I personally do not think we will see them tour to this scale again. Possible selected dates in Japan and Asia next year on the back of what is already booked but another long American and Euro tour would seem doubtful. Every tour Brian seems a little less happy about the travel and toll it takes on himself. They are getting older and it must be a strain and if they are to consider going round again ( farewell type thingy ) then it would have to be done different to enable them to maintain energy and enthusiasm for the whole tour. Hopefully enthusiastic crowds will carry them over the finish line for the next few weeks |
| Iron Butterfly 28.11.2017 10:59 |
Last tour? I think it's very likely. I said during the N.A tour cracks were starting to show...it's becoming more obvious now. I just hope he doesn't fall ill or end up depressed again. |
| bradbobly 28.11.2017 11:59 |
I am sure once he gets off the road and returns to saving the world and righting all wrongs in politics he will be a happier bunny |
| Chinwonder2 28.11.2017 12:30 |
I really hope that this tour isn't their last tour, I would really love to see them again. The chances of them coming to Belfast (or Ireland again) is very slim, but even if they only did mainland UK I would travel to see them again. I thoroughly enjoyed the show, Brian and Roger were fantastic as well as Adam. One thing I should note is that, my aunt and uncle were lucky enough to get to the very front of the standing area, right against the front barrier. They said they noticed Brian being 'slow and sluggish'. I personally didn't notice this but anything is possible. -Chin |
| Queenman!! 28.11.2017 15:14 |
depressed? that will happen when you play a Greatest Hits setlist for over 12 years since PR came onboard. ;) |
| RS_Protos 28.11.2017 16:48 |
From his comment he sounds miserable.......... Seems like he couldn't resist making more money and signed to do all these concerts.......... |
| Queenman!! 28.11.2017 18:03 |
he will lose a lot of money due to the Freddie films and the expatations , so I guess he need some extra's |
| Golden Salmon 28.11.2017 18:11 |
I'm pretty sure they're at the point where not touring would feel like dying quickly for them... Brian is 70 already, you can't ignore that. If no other health issues arise, they've got 5 more years tops - which is still a lot for them. |
| Krypto_98 28.11.2017 21:30 |
During Fat Bottom Girls in Toronto, I saw Brian run and he looked visibly in pain after that. He tried to hide it with a smile. I personally think they will stop touring soon. If you read is instagram he is already saying stuff like that its taking a toll link around there ish |
| N0_Camping4U 29.11.2017 01:22 |
Sebastian wrote: There are hundreds of threads in this forum, I seriously doubt I'm 'doing it in just about every topic.' If you don't care and still took the time to write to me about it and then check my response, then I wonder what you'd do if you did care. You seem oblivious of that as well. The strategy's quite sneaky, though: had I refrained from replying to your previous post, it may have looked like you'd 'won' by 'shutting me up'; since I did reply, it may look like you were right and I had some sort of uncontrollable desire to keep arguing, thus having you 'win' in that case as well.It appears you do have some uncontrollable desire to keep arguing. Hmm. I guess I hit a little too close to home with using your own reply to the OP. Appears to have struck a nerve. Just trying to help you take a step back and look at yourself. Hang in there, tiger. |
| Sebastian 29.11.2017 04:18 |
No, you didn't strike a nerve or anything. I replied because it was a message directed at me. You, on the other hand, replied to what I'd written to someone else (who'd already replied, by the way). And now you're all condescending again... suit yourself. Keep moaning if you will. |
| Pim Derks 29.11.2017 06:34 |
They're 70 for gods sake. When my grandparents were 70 they were retired for 5 years or more and did nothing besides a walk through town, reading a book etc. I'm 32 and two days of travelling takes a lot of energy already, let alone 6 weeks of travelling every day. |
| Costa86 29.11.2017 09:31 |
N0_Camping4U wrote: Oh not moaning, I don't care, just pointing it out to you as you seem oblivious. I see you doing it in just about every topic. Hope this helps.Really, really annoying that you end most of your comments with "Hope this helps". But everyone's free to say what they want, generally, etc. etc. I respect your right to an opinion, etc. etc. Turning into somewhat of a circle-jerk here. |
| craigob11 29.11.2017 10:45 |
Hi All I find this topic interesting. I attended the Liverpool Echo show last night (28/11/17). At the very front with my partner, so, great start. For the past few years I must admit ive also been on the fence with the various collaborations.. + P.R..A.L.. I first saw Queen at the Apollo M'chester '79 .& various shows after. I think it all boils down to this..times change. If you grew up with them you never wanted things to change,the perfect band in my opinion, Fred passing away changed it all & John not wishing to carry on(good & wise choice, who had full respect for Freddie, I'm sure deep down, thought it wrong to do so) Its not like it used to be. Its business.BIG BUSINESS. Queen..whats left of them have become business men 1'st..& rock & rollers second. They only output what will make money from the mass market not the hardcore fan. Shameful. No real loyalty to people who helped build them up (the fans) over many a year. I truly cant understand why they can't issue stuff the longstanding fans crave for through outlets such as QOL or the fan club etc..but also keep the passive fan happy through the normal outlets. Disappointing. Its this that drives the early fans away...back to the show. I went wanting/hoping to hear "It's Late".."SYW" or even by the luck of God.."SHA" or possibly a treat maybe "FFTI" from Roger / "SOTS" from Brian..but it was not to be...So in this the 40th yr of NOWT & all the stageing for the show centred on that...no more treats? 2/3rds of "GML" & WWRY/WATC". Poor, in terms of celebrating one of if not their best selling studio l.p's. Somebody who has already stated, they should be pleasing the home fan. Business. They should call their tours the greatest hits tours. Adam Lambert..no Freddie, we all know that. Great singer, Good entertainer, people want to see him (& Queen). He's a different entity. I went to give him a chance..did he deliver? In some things, yes but he doesn't have the " Aura" Mr.Mercury had. He's young so that keeps the energy in the show that Roger & Brian are now lacking & it can be seen, in some parts, but i expected that. I'm glad I went, so I could comment. I think, after this tour, its time to retire gracefully boys & maybe, just maybe concentrate on what the fan/collector truly wants before its too late. |
| RS_Protos 29.11.2017 14:46 |
I totally agree with you craig, some very good points, but wont happen in the near future. I will happen when mass market loses interest.... |
| Day dop 30.11.2017 00:38 |
I've little interest in any Queen+ activities. I like Queen releases such as Live at the Rainbow, and what not, but the Adam Lambert stuff (horrid screechy voice and looks tacky as fuck) truly sucks as far as I'm concerned. I wish the Queen Facebook page didn't plonk his face in my newsfeed, then you read the thread and see a bunch of Lambert fans have invaded the page attempting to police what other people say. I'm sure many Pink Floyd fans would feel the same as many long term Queen fans if Justin Bieber started fronting them. As such, I've unfollowed the official Queen facebook page couple of times over that (and then refollowed after Queen+ Lambert tours have come to an end). They even managed to shoehorn him into the recent News of the World documentary. Fuck sake. As a creative force, I lost faith in Brian and Roger years ago. |
| Dr Magus 30.11.2017 10:30 |
Sadly i fear a Queen anthology box will only happen after Brian and Roger snuff it. |
| Sebastian 30.11.2017 13:42 |
And they'll probably outlive many of us anyway. |
| RS_Protos 30.11.2017 14:33 |
Gift From God............. :) |
| Sunshine 30.11.2017 14:50 |
Craig, move on. I can not stand this moaning about how it used to be in 1979. Really. I am the first to agree that playing parts of songs is not OK. That being said, they put on a damn fine show. It’s great music and Queen is blessed with Adam. He does justice to the songs. Stop whining about “business”. It always has been business. Also in 1977. And beyond. Focus on the great things: Roger and Adam duetting on Under Pressure is just joy to watch. Or Roger singing I’m in Love With My Car. Or Adam singing Who Wants To Live Forever. That’s is just great stuff. Freddie is dead. He died 26 years ago. Move on. |
| Vocal harmony 30.11.2017 15:41 |
Sunshine wrote: Craig, move on. I can not stand this moaning about how it used to be in 1979. Really. . . . I am the first to agree that playing parts of songs is not OK. That being said, they put on a damn fine show. . . . Stop whining about “business”. It always has been business. Also in 1977. And beyond. Freddie is dead. He died 26 years ago. Move on.I agree times change, and so should people. Playing parts of songs is something of a Queen tradition. Through the 70's and 80's with the exception of 1982. So I guess you always thought there shows were never ok? Yes it is a business, more so to them when they took over there own management from John Reid. |
| RS_Protos 30.11.2017 15:51 |
"He does justice to the songs. " matter of opinion......................... |
| Sebastian 30.11.2017 17:01 |
Vocal harmony wrote: Playing parts of songs is something of a Queen tradition. Through the 70's and 80's with the exception of 1982.In 1982 they only played selected bits from 'Dragon Attack' (no drum solo, for instance, and only one documented instance so far of the bass solo, plus no final chorus). They often only did the intro of 'Mustapha' (i.e. a part) and, of course, they always excluded the 'Bo Rhap' intro. So even though there wasn't a medley as such, they were still playing incomplete versions. |
| The Real Wizard 30.11.2017 17:02 |
Queenman!! wrote: depressed? that will happen when you play a Greatest Hits setlist for over 12 years since PR came onboard. ;)Compare the setlist now to what it was a decade ago - it may be a "greatest hits" setlist, but they had over 40 singles. The show is quite different now, never mind the production. |
| The Real Wizard 30.11.2017 17:04 |
Krypto_98 wrote: During Fat Bottom Girls in Toronto, I saw Brian run and he looked visibly in pain after that. He tried to hide it with a smile. I personally think they will stop touring soon. If you read is instagram he is already saying stuff like that its taking a toll link around there ishYep - he's 70. And just a few years ago he had knee replacement surgery. We should feel lucky these guys are touring at all. |
| Sebastian 30.11.2017 17:07 |
The Real Wizard wrote: We should feel lucky these guys are touring at all.Not really. We should breathe oxygen, eat, drink and eliminate waste. Everything else is optional. The fact they're touring is certainly making them (and thousands of people) very happy. Fair play for that. But it doesn't have even the slightest effect on my life, so it's neither 'lucky' nor 'unlucky' for me that they're touring or that at some point they won't anymore. |
| The Real Wizard 30.11.2017 17:09 |
craigob11 wrote: No real loyalty to people who helped build them up (the fans) over many a year. I truly cant understand why they can't issue stuff the longstanding fans crave for I think, after this tour, its time to retire gracefully boys & maybe, just maybe concentrate on what the fan/collector truly wants before its too late.You are in the extreme minority, friend. 99% of the people are happy with the shows on the way out of the arena. They are playing Stone Cold Crazy and Get Down Make Love for the people who know the albums. The greatest hits crowd doesn't know those tunes. That's why the two NOTW tracks were dropped - the band doesn't want to look at blank faces for another 15 minutes of the night. As per releases - what more could one crave at the moment? They just released an alternate version of News Of The World with different guitars and vocals on every track. Some bands do more for their fans, and others do less. Queen are somewhere in the middle. If you want more, then maybe you should dig deeper into Bruce Springsteen or King Crimson. This is about as good as it'll get for Queen. |
| The Real Wizard 30.11.2017 17:10 |
Sunshine wrote: Stop whining about “business”. It always has been business. Also in 1977. And beyond.Agreed. Queen went from being a band to a brand long before 1991. To suggest otherwise is completely foolish and short-sighted. |
| Holly2003 30.11.2017 17:20 |
Sunshine wrote: Craig, move on. I can not stand this moaning about how it used to be in 1979. Really. I am the first to agree that playing parts of songs is not OK. That being said, they put on a damn fine show. It’s great music and Queen is blessed with Adam. He does justice to the songs. Stop whining about “business”. It always has been business. Also in 1977. And beyond. Focus on the great things: Roger and Adam duetting on Under Pressure is just joy to watch. Or Roger singing I’m in Love With My Car. Or Adam singing Who Wants To Live Forever. That’s is just great stuff. Freddie is dead. He died 26 years ago. Move on.There's something deeply ironic about telling someone to "move on" while half of Queen play their old hits :) |
| craigob11 01.12.2017 00:46 |
thanks for all gour replies & comments. you say 'move on' ? I didnt say I didnt enjoy the show, i thought it was great. Nor did I dis respect AL, he did a great job. My point was, in general, that being NOTW anniversary year, in the Uk. they could have played more from the album...no? Their staging was centered around that...no? I agree, they have to please every one..& no, maybe not all who attend the shows know the album but from the crowd at the Echo which varied..they were mainly in the older bracket of fans so possibly did know it. And yes "it always as been a business" i agree but do they really need to stick the name on everything now? |
| Sunshine 01.12.2017 09:18 |
In the old days they incorporated abbreviated songs in a medley in an intelligent way. What i mean is that they play short versions of songs (Crazy Little Thing Called Love, Tie Your Mother Down, Hammer To Fall( LY)etc) which they never done before. It's like experiencing Live Magic in real. Not cool. And what's worse, they stop playing songs in the middle. Like Play The Game, it just stopped before the guitar solo. What a turn off. Or Brian not playing the last scales of Bohemian Rhapsody. That is just sloppiness, because the majority of the audience doesn't notice. |
| Vocal harmony 01.12.2017 14:02 |
Sebastian wrote:You're right and I hadn't thought of those instances. So that's even more parts of songs, and it's still before any Queen + showsVocal harmony wrote: Playing parts of songs is something of a Queen tradition. Through the 70's and 80's with the exception of 1982.In 1982 they only played selected bits from 'Dragon Attack' (no drum solo, for instance, and only one documented instance so far of the bass solo, plus no final chorus). They often only did the intro of 'Mustapha' (i.e. a part) and, of course, they always excluded the 'Bo Rhap' intro. So even though there wasn't a medley as such, they were still playing incomplete versions. |
| Queenman!! 08.12.2017 23:02 |
Poor Brian , he screwed de bo rhap solo complete in Leeds. What happened? Due to smoke or...??? link |
| Day dop 09.12.2017 08:58 |
^ Looks like the guitar string broke. It looks hilarious though, the way the lights go on Brian, he goes to do his thing, then it all fucks up and he walks off lol What's happened with the edit / quote / reply to other comments buttons on here btw? I am not seeing them. |
| thomasquinn 32989 09.12.2017 11:43 |
Day dop wrote: ^ Looks like the guitar string broke. It looks hilarious though, the way the lights go on Brian, he goes to do his thing, then it all fucks up and he walks off lol What's happened with the edit / quote / reply to other comments buttons on here btw? I am not seeing them.They're still there, but invisible now. Just like the members, pm, etc. buttons. Don't know why, another fluke I guess. If you put your cursor over the place where the icon used to be, you'll see the invisible button still works. |
| Chopin1995 09.12.2017 14:18 |
Queenman!! wrote: Poor Brian , he screwed de bo rhap solo complete in Leeds. What happened? Due to smoke or...??? linkSounds quite familiar :) link |
| Chopin1995 09.12.2017 14:18 |
Queenman!! wrote: Poor Brian , he screwed de bo rhap solo complete in Leeds. What happened? Due to smoke or...??? linkSounds quite familiar :) link |
| Vocal harmony 10.12.2017 16:40 |
And there you have it. Guitar problems, or Brian hitting wrong notes ( occasionally ) has nothing to do with his age. The people bringing the subject up are the ones who have a shock coming because quite possibly they are the ones who aren't aware that we are all in the same boat, if we make it that far. Don't judge unless you've taken time to learn something about what you are passing judgement on. |
| Fireplace 10.12.2017 17:58 |
Quite happy to see Brian getting old, considering the alternative. |
| Queenman!! 10.12.2017 19:56 |
edit>> |
| Queenman!! 10.12.2017 19:58 |
Queenman!! wrote:Vocal harmony wrote: And there you have it. Guitar problems, or Brian hitting wrong notes ( occasionally ) has nothing to do with his age. The people bringing the subject up are the ones who have a shock coming because quite possibly they are the ones who aren't aware that we are all in the same boat, if we make it that far. Don't judge unless you've taken time to learn something about what you are passing judgement on.----------------------------------------------- I'm not judging at all, I could not see what happened and why the solo went wrong.Smoke, string break, he forgot which key he was on the guitar neck . Of course everybody make mistakes and some are because of age. You can see how much the show is over -produced and why Brian plays each solo and riffs the same night. In the early days there was a lot more freedom to impovise and they rehearsed weeks before a tour started. I think you should learn a bit more. When somebody ask an open question you never judge right???So It's quite legitimate to ask this question on this topic. Please stop using smart ONE-liners that make no sense at all. You just make a fool of yourself. . |
| Rich Tea 10.12.2017 22:39 |
At Manchester last night the show & band were brilliant it was simply awesome...... I do understand hardcore fans frustrations I'm one myself but when you are in the middle of 21,000 people who've come to see Queen you realise that the only setlist they can play (unless they are promoting something new) is a greatest hits one. I loved Stone Cold Crazy, Get Down Make Love etc but 80% of those around me just hadn't got a clue. i wasn't in the middle of a bunch of Glamberts either the general make up of the crowd from what I could see was pretty much like my own group of 6 - Dad = Hardcore Queen Fan, Mum - Casual Queen Fan - Rest of Family 2 to 4 people wanting to experience the legend they have grown up with but only knowing GH1, 2 & 3. Anyway whatever the excuse/reason 40 years after my first Queen gig it was fantastic to be able to share the experience with my daughters and their partners for the first time and they loved every minute of it........... |
| Daniel Nester 11.12.2017 01:55 |
Guitar mistakes in Leeds = old age. Got it. |
| Dr Magus 11.12.2017 11:08 |
I think it was Sydney 85 where Brian hilariously hits the wrong note right before the opera section. It was filmed by an audience member. |
| Vocal harmony 11.12.2017 13:28 |
Queenman!! wrote:Do I really?Queenman!! wrote:Vocal harmony wrote: And there you have it. Guitar problems, or Brian hitting wrong notes ( occasionally ) has nothing to do with his age. The people bringing the subject up are the ones who have a shock coming because quite possibly they are the ones who aren't aware that we are all in the same boat, if we make it that far. Don't judge unless you've taken time to learn something about what you are passing judgement on.----------------------------------------------- I'm not judging at all, I could not see what happened and why the solo went wrong.Smoke, string break, he forgot which key he was on the guitar neck . Of course everybody make mistakes and some are because of age. You can see how much the show is over -produced and why Brian plays each solo and riffs the same night. In the early days there was a lot more freedom to impovise and they rehearsed weeks before a tour started. I think you should learn a bit more. When somebody ask an open question you never judge right???So It's quite legitimate to ask this question on this topic. Please stop using smart ONE-liners that make no sense at all. You just make a fool of yourself. . In my reply I didn't name you specifically, I was talking in general. As for Brian's playing, he has never drifted far from the rehearsed songs, no matter what stage of the band's career you look at. I'm not saying never but certainly not as much as you seem to think. As for you're open question. Look again at what you have written. Your heading is a statement not a question. . . . If you read down through this thread, you are full of negative views and criticism of what the band are doing, but you seem unable to understand any that may be in anyway directed at you or conflicts with your view One last point. One liners, not really, but why write 600 words when a couple of lines says what needs to be said. |
| Ivo-1976 11.12.2017 15:30 |
Brian is 70, Roger 68. I'm pretty sure they don't really need the money. Of course it's not getting easier for them, but I respect them for going out there and doing their thing. Many fans enjoy their shows. These guys gave us a lot of good music. And great shows. They can do whatever they like. We would all have loved Freddie and John to be there with them, but this is as good as it's going to get. If you don't like it, don't go. |
| Queenman!! 11.12.2017 16:40 |
Vocal harmony wrote:---------------------------------------------------Queenman!! wrote:Do I really? In my reply I didn't name you specifically, I was talking in general. As for Brian's playing, he has never drifted far from the rehearsed songs, no matter what stage of the band's career you look at. I'm not saying never but certainly not as much as you seem to think. As for you're open question. Look again at what you have written. Your heading is a statement not a question. . . . If you read down through this thread, you are full of negative views and criticism of what the band are doing, but you seem unable to understand any that may be in anyway directed at you or conflicts with your view One last point. One liners, not really, but why write 600 words when a couple of lines says what needs to be said.Queenman!! wrote:Vocal harmony wrote: And there you have it. Guitar problems, or Brian hitting wrong notes ( occasionally ) has nothing to do with his age. The people bringing the subject up are the ones who have a shock coming because quite possibly they are the ones who aren't aware that we are all in the same boat, if we make it that far. Don't judge unless you've taken time to learn something about what you are passing judgement on.----------------------------------------------- I'm not judging at all, I could not see what happened and why the solo went wrong.Smoke, string break, he forgot which key he was on the guitar neck . Of course everybody make mistakes and some are because of age. You can see how much the show is over -produced and why Brian plays each solo and riffs the same night. In the early days there was a lot more freedom to impovise and they rehearsed weeks before a tour started. I think you should learn a bit more. When somebody ask an open question you never judge right???So It's quite legitimate to ask this question on this topic. Please stop using smart ONE-liners that make no sense at all. You just make a fool of yourself. . The header should be a bit different ... that's correct., but I just wanted t say that his age may cause a few problems down the road that forces Brian May to play at save these days * I think his knee and personal health are mainly the reason he cycles each day on that machine for staying fit * The show is not that risky and daring anymore when it comes to Brian's guitar playing. Read the previous treads to about his style of guitar playing and how Brian avoids playing the things that are difficult . Besides I think it's is really, because of the programmed lights, sounds and visual effects the band seems to play the songs in a kind of time frame. * A lot of people complanined about the tempo of the songs. To slow which makes the songs loosing a bit of the magic. |
| mutualcore 13.12.2017 20:11 |
Honestly rock&roll is a young man's game. For Brian & Roger to still be out there at 70 is frankly remarkable. |
| mike hunt 14.12.2017 02:24 |
I assume the original poster on this thread is very young....thinking early 20's? I'm 46 and feel the age already. So all respect for old men in their 70's still working and being productive. With all due respect I want the person who started this thread come back in 30, 40 years and tell us how he looks and feels at 60 or 70 years old. That's if he makes it that far. Those youngsters make me laugh. |
| Queenman!! 14.12.2017 10:25 |
Actually Mike I’m 37.but I’m certainly not imagine Brian is that young anymore. In fact my point is that I feel sorry for Brian and Roger had to call it a day sooner than we may think. But to me every form of criticism and realism about the band on this forum seems not okay. I just sampled up a few points that caught my eye during this tour and want to discuss about what others think.No bad offense or something... |
| Togg 14.12.2017 11:41 |
I've spent 35 years playing in a band, and anyone will tell you that no matter how many times you play something there's always the chance it will go wrong, that's life, strings break, you play the wrong notes, lets face it those of us old enough to drive who maybe like myself have been driving ever day of out lives for 40 + years will still make the odd mistake It's pointless to be critical of a musicain when something like that happens, and if you do then I guess you must be perfect 100% of the time in all you do..... |
| Vocal harmony 14.12.2017 14:29 |
Togg you're spot on. The internet gives everyone the chance to become a critic with no editor outlining a frame work and no real thought about what is being said. I'm sure half the people typing some of this stuff would never say anything like it if they came face to face with either the people they are talking about or the people they are expecting to read it. What really gets me is if YouTube and forums were available in the late 70's and early 80's these same people would have targeted every imperfection Freddie showed and he would be a major target for the unrelenting shit. |
| mike hunt 14.12.2017 15:34 |
I do feel the Internet gives every idiot a voice.....I read this forum, youtube, facebook ect and think It's time too give it all up. Just adds noise to your life. |
| mike hunt 14.12.2017 15:38 |
As far as This tour goes I can't really praise or critisize it since I don't have an Interest. |
| LiveHouse 14.12.2017 16:48 |
Hello,GNR has not changed the set list for 20 years.but not bad... |
| kevin79 15.12.2017 15:07 |
I'll admit that I was disappointed when I heard they dropped SYW and It's Late from the setlist. But from the moment Frank punched through that screen in Philly until he waved goodbye, I had such a great time singing and clapping along to all of the great songs they did play. They've got a great front man in Adam. Yes, he's no Freddie. But he admits as much in every show. But it's obvious he's a big fan of their songs and gives everything he can to give that music the respect it deserves and give the fans their money's worth. It's also obvious that Brian and Roger still love going out on stage and playing those songs for their fans. Yes they may not be spring chickens anymore and may have to work harder to keep themselves in tour shape than they did in their 20's and 30's. But to me, that's not something to mock or scoff at. Instead we should give them some respect for wanting to keep themselves in good shape so that they can deliver the best shows possible to the fans going to see them. |
| Rich Tea 16.12.2017 01:55 |
I seriously doubt had Freddie kept his health and been with us today he would still be touring I really think people on here should show BM & RMT more respect than they do the shows have been spectacular and AL has fitted in very well. |
| Martin Packer 17.12.2017 11:51 |
At Wembley on 15th I was getting concerned that they weren't using the runway much. But then Brian explained he had a virus and I could see why he was less energetic. In the end there was plenty of attention for us at the end of the runway. |
| mike hunt 17.12.2017 19:49 |
Here and there I will check out some songs with adam on youtube....the kids singing ability is not in Question. He could sing. The problem is he's not a rock singer., so he sounds silly singing the heavier tracks... Again, I'm not a fan of Queen + Adam or Rodgers....but I do think he's a better fit for Queen than Rodgers was. He brings young fans into the mix. Something Rodgers couldn't do. So I'm not bashing Lambert. I Just wish Iconic bands like Queen Sabbath, The Who would call it a day when half the band Quit or die. Journey also got a singer who could hit all the notes, but is it really the same? Someone here said Queen are touring with an American Idol loser.....but the loser could sing, and he's singing with one of the best bands of all time. I wish I could be a loser like Adam. So all in all I'm personally not a fan of anything post 1995 with Made In Heaven, but realize Brian And Roger must do what they love and that's touring. It's not for the money at this point. My Question is would they consider recording an album with the American Idol loser? All Joking aside.........I think he Improved enough to consider it, and it can't be much worse than TCR. |
| Sebastian 18.12.2017 04:40 |
He's a loser because he lost the final to Kris Allen, thus making Kris the winner and Adam the loser. |
| The Real Wizard 19.12.2017 01:38 |
Sebastian wrote: He's a loser because he lost the final to Kris Allen, thus making Kris the winner and Adam the loser.He lost a reality TV show and instead got arguably the most coveted gig in the biz for a rock singer. I'd say he won. |
| Sebastian 19.12.2017 01:50 |
'An American Idol loser' only implies what happened when he was a contestant. If I said 'a life loser' or 'a music loser', that'd certainly be incorrect. Same for, say, Messi: he's a 'World Cup and America Cup loser,' at least for the moment. That doesn't make him a bad footballer (he's by far the best there's been in a long time), just like Adam's not by any means a bad singer, but still, the term 'American Idol loser' is accurate for Adam and 'World Cup final loser' is accurate for Leo. |
| Martin Packer 19.12.2017 10:00 |
And his consolation prize... :-) |
| Sebastian 19.12.2017 15:55 |
Well, you know what they say: 'the runner-up takes it all.' |
| noorie 19.12.2017 19:27 |
The Real Wizard wrote: He lost a reality TV show and instead got arguably the most coveted gig in the biz for a rock singer. I'd say he won.Perfect!!! |