mooghead 20.11.2017 17:01 |
link |
MrFunster 20.11.2017 17:33 |
She should have done this earlier |
MrFunster 20.11.2017 17:34 |
Totally agree with her, I am sure Freddie didnt like this either.... |
MercurialFreddie 20.11.2017 18:04 |
These jokes of a journalist at Mirror wrote that Queen was a trio :///// |
matt z 20.11.2017 18:18 |
MrFunster wrote: She should have done this earlierHadn't this been done several times? It's just now getting attention probably as a hype campaign gears for the film |
Kuijpy 20.11.2017 20:14 |
Awful person, golddigging, what If Freddie was a carpenter? Then was all the contact brokan, look what she did to the guys Freddie loved, jealous golddigging bitch, Don't like her. |
maths15 20.11.2017 20:58 |
It’s an eye sore. Reminds me of an 80s underpass. |
maths15 20.11.2017 20:59 |
I bet is smells of piss too |
mooghead 20.11.2017 21:35 |
I don't actually think she is a monster. I think she entitled to do whatever the fuck she wants with her property. It was a quarter of a century ago. Vandalism is no validity of Queen fandom. |
matt z 20.11.2017 22:48 |
Just like vandalism shouldn't be part of queen bandom. They ought to drop Dragon Attack entirely. It sounds like a joke. |
Cruella de Vil 21.11.2017 00:57 |
Monster?? It's well within reason for her to clean this up and reclaim the space. |
scollins 21.11.2017 01:13 |
who gives a toss? its over a quarter of a century ago and lets be honest we dont need a wall with cunts names on it to remember Freddie? |
Jimmy Dean 21.11.2017 04:24 |
so much nicer. well done. |
musicland munich 21.11.2017 05:32 |
I wouldn't call her a monster. Maybe she is a bit "difficult" now and then :) I guess... Other things we should think about The emerge of the Freddie Mercury badge at "Kensal Green"...suspicious ! The request to conceal Garden Lodge on Google.And now this. Hey wait, any conspiracy theories on hand ? |
Nick Browning 21.11.2017 06:24 |
I would've done the same thing if random people kept vandalizing my walls |
mr mason 21.11.2017 07:27 |
I met her, just before the 'Tribute' concert,she was a lovely lady,answering questions and having photos taken with fans of Freddie, i should imagine after 26 years it pisses her off, it would me! |
Invisible Woman 21.11.2017 08:44 |
Mary is the owner of the house and has the right to do what she wants with the house. I noticed something else. In the text it says: "Mary, who lived with Freddie on and off for 20 years and nursed him until his death, inherited the house along with his £9m fortune." Did she really was his nurse?I don't think so. And next: "Freddie formed Queen in 1970 with pals Brian May, 70, and Roger Taylor, 68, and the trio went on to sell 300 million records." Trio? Did John is just our imagination? |
matt z 21.11.2017 08:59 |
^i didn't click on a similar daily mail post. Maybe THEY got their facts right. I dunno :-/ |
john bodega 21.11.2017 09:46 |
Couple of considerations : - fans should've left the door alone. It's reasonable to take measures to protect the door. - the perspex on the walls, though, is a mistake to remove. I left a note there for Freddie in 2014 and it was a real Spinal Tap "too much fucking perspective" moment. Shouldn't take that away from people. - all of this having been said ... I definitely don't care if Freddie would be rolling in his grave or not, because it's a figure of speech. He's not around anymore. Also don't care what Mary Austin thinks. She's just a lotto winner with a nice house. |
Supersonic_Man89 21.11.2017 13:00 |
You inherit a £9 million property...the fans leave it alone apart from the outside of one wall/entrance which is only used for deliveries - where they write/scribble messages that mean so much to them...and she's able to heartlessly remove that? There is no grave...there is no statue in England...the fans didn't harass his parent's house and they don't harass his sisters. That was their one place - something which had been there for a quarter of a century. Gone. Why? I just don't see how a multi-millionaire like herself could really have been traumatised by a part of a wall had such beautiful messages scrawled upon it. I think it's incredibly disappointing and Freddie would have disapproved. Of course Freddie loved things looking beautiful and smart etc. but he also had a heart and was very sentimental. |
felix ibex 21.11.2017 14:25 |
too much noise for her I guess anyway some of freddies ashes are underneath the oak tree with the fish |
perpetual craze 21.11.2017 14:27 |
Freddie wanted Mary to have his house, that was his wish! It’s nobody’s business and she owes the fans nothing! Anyone who judges her needs to get a life. I guess if Freddie would have approved of fans vandalising the outside of his home then he would have left his house to his fans in his will, going on past actions if he had then there wouldn’t be much left of it by now. Anyone who thinks they have a right to vandalise other people’s property should learn to grow up and master the art of respect. |
MercuryArts 21.11.2017 17:24 |
Don't vandalize, just drop a small bouquet of flowers by the door. That's what I would/will do if I ever get over there. |
Invisible Woman 21.11.2017 18:02 |
I clicked on a link from the topic, there is a part of the text about "trio". I go back to the topic. As I said,Mary is the owner of the house. She is now an older woman and I understand she is annoyed about all these things but I don't understand why she did it now, she could did it after the anniversary of his death. I also understand fans who are angry and disappointed because of this. Someone says "Freddie would not be liked to see such a vandalism" or "why the messages stand when he can not read them". Maybe.Maybe not. Maybe he would be touched by these messages. I believe he would be pleased because the fans still remember him with enormous love although more than 25 years have passed. Maybe he would be sad because all this was removed. Nobody knows what Freddie would be think about it. |
master marathon runner 21.11.2017 18:13 |
Full respect to Mary. That's all. |
people on streets 21.11.2017 21:20 |
Totally agree with Mary. Vandalize your own house. Idiots. |
Daniel Nester 22.11.2017 02:02 |
And you got Tacky Jacky defending it all. |
SmokyQuartz 22.11.2017 02:03 |
I visited there once, when I'd noticed on a map that Logan Place was just around the corner from a hotel I was staying in. So I walked there and spent a few minutes just remembering Freddie. I didn't have paper or pen or flowers with me, but I would never have dreamt of ever carving into wood or bricks on the property or writing on walls or the door. If fans care about Freddie, they would care that his property, now Mary's, maintains it's value in that area. With damage or grafitti it's value goes down. It's possible to remember and be respectful. She is probably just trying to stop vandalism, not flowers or notes. |
john bodega 22.11.2017 03:25 |
^ it's erroneous to suggest that people should care about every little thing relating to Freddie just because they dug the music. I wouldn't waste an ounce of sympathy on Mary over any of this - again, she struck it pretty big in life. I think she's doing fine. People doing irreversible physical damage by carving, etching, or drawing on property are fucknuts, but no harm was done by being able to put a note behind the perspex. That's all really. |
The Real Wizard 22.11.2017 06:48 |
Kuijpy wrote: Awful person, golddigging, what If Freddie was a carpenter? Then was all the contact brokan, look what she did to the guys Freddie loved, jealous golddigging bitch, Don't like her.ha ! Are you serious? If he was a carpenter, she still would have loved him. She knew him when he was dirt poor. Can't say the same for the others. Freddie said she was the only person he ever trusted. And his other "friends" wrote tell-all books that made his private life public. Looks like he made the right choice. |
ANAGRAMER 22.11.2017 07:25 |
If dear old Fred was still here, I doubt he would have tolerated the graffiti... |
MercurialFreddie 22.11.2017 11:25 |
^ Exactly. He was an avid fan of art and had an excellent taste. Although I think he would have been touched the graffiti would be too much for him |
SmokyQuartz 22.11.2017 17:01 |
john bodega wrote: ^ it's erroneous to suggest that people should care about every little thing relating to Freddie just because they dug the music. I wouldn't waste an ounce of sympathy on Mary over any of this - again, she struck it pretty big in life. I think she's doing fine. People doing irreversible physical damage by carving, etching, or drawing on property are fucknuts, but no harm was done by being able to put a note behind the perspex. That's all really.I agree about the perspex. I don't believe I expressed any sympathy for Mary in my post, but I can't see how losing your soul mate or closest friend is striking it big in life. |
Sheldon 22.11.2017 17:16 |
The Real Wizard wrote:This! It is impossible to ignore the fact that she got the most money + house after Freddie died and Jim got the same amount as everyone else working in the house.Kuijpy wrote: Awful person, golddigging, what If Freddie was a carpenter? Then was all the contact brokan, look what she did to the guys Freddie loved, jealous golddigging bitch, Don't like her.ha ! Are you serious? If he was a carpenter, she still would have loved him. She knew him when he was dirt poor. Can't say the same for the others. Freddie said she was the only person he ever trusted. And his other "friends" wrote tell-all books that made his private life public. Looks like he made the right choice. Also, if you are close friends or even lovers with a man who is well-know for his wish of privacy, you probably do not write a book about him and reveal tons of extremely personal stuff if you are a good guy. Mary never did this and is even interviewed extremely seldom. |
noorie 22.11.2017 18:50 |
Very honestly, I don't know why WE are all speculating about how Mary should deal with her house situation. We can trust that Freddie (whose house it was, and who knew all the parties concerned intimately) knew what he was doing, and had more than enough time to change his will if he had wanted to. Or added a codicil to it if he wanted any changes about who could occupy the house, or whether it should be made public, etc. I don't see any reason to hate on Mary or anybody else, when Freddie made himself very clear in his will. Being that we are all Freddie's fans, I think we should respect HIS wishes. Not try to impose ours on Mary or anybody else. |
Chopin1995 23.11.2017 12:57 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Great post Bob.Kuijpy wrote: Awful person, golddigging, what If Freddie was a carpenter? Then was all the contact brokan, look what she did to the guys Freddie loved, jealous golddigging bitch, Don't like her.ha ! Are you serious? If he was a carpenter, she still would have loved him. She knew him when he was dirt poor. Can't say the same for the others. Freddie said she was the only person he ever trusted. And his other "friends" wrote tell-all books that made his private life public. Looks like he made the right choice. |
Invisible Woman 23.11.2017 17:43 |
@Sheldon What does Jim have with Mary's decision to remove graffiti from the wall? Why Jim wasn't a good man if he published that book? As far as we know,Mary also participated in documentary and talked about many things about Freddie's private life. I think that the point of this is that Mary is owner of house and that she can do what she wants with her house. Why, how and how much who is inherited is a completely different story. |
on my way up 24.11.2017 10:06 |
It baffles me that there are Queen fans questioning Mary's love for Freddie... It is pretty clear to me that they loved each other. This bond was pure and beautiful and unconditional. Garden Lodge is her property now and she has every right to do as she pleases. |
Dr Magus 24.11.2017 10:25 |
People can write a book as a way to make money, especially if their financial situation is dire. Mary was given a mansion and millions of pounds. If she hadn't been given all this she may have written a book herself. She will never have to as Freddie made her rich. |
kokax 24.11.2017 10:45 |
@Invisible Woman: " Why Jim wasn't a good man if he published that book? As far as we know, Mary also participated in documentary and talked about many things about Freddie's private life. " Maybe here's an answer, not exactly recent, but I doubt BM's opinion has much changed : Excerpt from Brian May's Soap Box : **Sun 05 Oct 03** (reply to a fan from Moldova who was wondering about the " inner circle " books) "DEMOCRACY AND FREDDIE'S PRIVATE LIFE Dear Sonya, ... But, you know - in response to your question - I can only say honestly - I do not personally LIKE the books written about Freddie. You are right - his personal life was very private to him, and he did not WANT his intimate details made public. I do not read these books, simply because I believe that Freddie wanted us to take him as he portrayed himself in his work. However I cannot deny anyone the right to publish their own personal experiences of Freddie the way they see them. I can only hope that the rest of world understands that only a tiny morsel of Freddie resided in his home life - he gave 99 per cent of himself to the true love of his life - music. Of course the person he gave most to in his life was Mary - and it is noticeable that she has NEVER written her account of life with Freddie. In spite of the huge amount of money she could earn by doing so, she has shown her love by keeping a dignified silence, and we all respect her greatly for that. With love Brian -------------- |
LOTV 24.11.2017 12:04 |
She can't stop me standing outside today. Fuck her. |
LOTV 24.11.2017 14:41 |
Well sadly Garden Lodge has been totally sanitized. A perspex guard over the door now. A sprinkling of fans when were there. The neighbors opposite came by and weren't bothered by our presence. I don't care what the arguments are in Mary's defense, I think it's quite sad. A strange old woman in a big hat and a botoxed face walked her dog briefly by the house. That was as exciting as it got. Still glad I went. |
Invisible Woman 24.11.2017 19:27 |
@kokax When Jim died,Brian made a nice statement and saying the best about him,also. I don't think there's anything offensive in Jim's book, but I don't mind if anyone thinks otherwise. |
The Real Wizard 25.11.2017 18:09 |
kokax wrote: I can only say honestly - I do not personally LIKE the books written about Freddie. You are right - his personal life was very private to him, and he did not WANT his intimate details made public. I do not read these books, simply because I believe that Freddie wanted us to take him as he portrayed himself in his work. However I cannot deny anyone the right to publish their own personal experiences of Freddie the way they see them. I can only hope that the rest of world understands that only a tiny morsel of Freddie resided in his home life - he gave 99 per cent of himself to the true love of his life - music. Of course the person he gave most to in his life was Mary - and it is noticeable that she has NEVER written her account of life with Freddie. In spite of the huge amount of money she could earn by doing so, she has shown her love by keeping a dignified silence, and we all respect her greatly for that. With love BrianWow - I'd never seen this before. This really makes me happy. The bottom line: Those books would not have been written had Freddie lived, end of. By definition that makes their existence unjustified morally, but of course business is business. |
RBoulain 26.11.2017 00:37 |
Wow, says the one who in an interview explained how Freddie almost lost a foot before dying, while he was talking about unrelated stuff. Fine. |
Iron Butterfly 26.11.2017 07:00 |
I don't or can't blame M.A for doing it. I'm surprised it went on for as long as it did. |
c.jory 26.11.2017 08:19 |
I bet Brian doesn't realise Mary said she didn't think the remaining members deserved a portion of the royalties Freddie left them and claimed they begrudged her the home... |
Invisible Woman 26.11.2017 10:35 |
Maybe Brian wrote this before she said that. What would happen if Mary didn't inherited most of Freddie's wealth? Probably wouldn't have been created public image about her ( with the help of the press, and probably with the help of the management of the band) as Freddie's greatest love and the person he most trusted. Most probably, she wouldn't be interesting either to journalists and people around the world. |
Iron Butterfly 26.11.2017 10:48 |
Can someone tell me how soon after Freddie passed away, when the fans started to go there, leave messages etc? I wish there was a place n the UK where fans could pay their respects to Freddie. I'm sad that there isn't. I don't think what was once his home is the right place to write messages on the wall. |
john bodega 26.11.2017 12:06 |
"unjustified morally" Pffff haha, it's not like they invaded Poland. Can't really see the difference between his old fag hags writing books and Mary talking in documentaries anyway. |
Dr Magus 26.11.2017 12:16 |
^this^ Also if people writing books are morally unjustified what does that make the people that pay money to READ them? Freddie himself said 'when i'm dead i won't care'. |
noorie 26.11.2017 18:09 |
Perhaps Freddie did not want to have a 'shrine' to himself. Perhaps that is why he did not want anyone (except Mary) to know where his ashes were to be kept. Personally for me, the best way to pay him respect is to totally enjoy his music! |
SmokyQuartz 26.11.2017 23:55 |
I think the thing about the ashes is typical of Freddie. There was always a mystery. I think it's right we don't know where they are, it fits with his character. But I think maybe it would be nice if fans had somewhere to go, like in Montreux people can leave flowers at the statue. |
The Real Wizard 27.11.2017 06:35 |
RBoulain wrote: Wow, says the one who in an interview explained how Freddie almost lost a foot before dying, while he was talking about unrelated stuff. Fine.How do you know it was unrelated? What you read was a journalist's edit, not an uncut conversation. |
The Real Wizard 27.11.2017 06:35 |
captainjory wrote: I bet Brian doesn't realise Mary said she didn't think the remaining members deserved a portion of the royalties Freddie left them and claimed they begrudged her the home...When did she say this? Source? |
The Real Wizard 27.11.2017 06:38 |
Dr Magus wrote: ^this^ Also if people writing books are morally unjustified what does that make the people that pay money to READ them? Freddie himself said 'when i'm dead i won't care'.That was his flippant personality in the 80s. I wouldn't take such dismissive talk so seriously. The man cared about his art and what people thought of him. To suggest otherwise is foolish. The tell-all books would not have come out had he lived, full stop. |
kokax 27.11.2017 09:10 |
^ ^ ^ from the press statement in Nov. 91 : ".....My privacy has always been very special to me and I am famous for my lack of interviews. Please understand this policy will continue." |
The Fairy King 27.11.2017 09:29 |
LOTV wrote: She can't stop me standing outside today. Fuck her.Creep. xD |
Dr Magus 27.11.2017 11:55 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Tell-all books get written about famous people after they die - fact of life.Dr Magus wrote: ^this^ Also if people writing books are morally unjustified what does that make the people that pay money to READ them? Freddie himself said 'when i'm dead i won't care'.That was his flippant personality in the 80s. I wouldn't take such dismissive talk so seriously. The man cared about his art and what people thought of him. To suggest otherwise is foolish. The tell-all books would not have come out had he lived, full stop. The interest from many Queen fans is there. If the market didn't exist there probably wouldn't be so many. How many have you read? |
The Real Wizard 28.11.2017 05:01 |
Dr Magus wrote: Tell-all books get written about famous people after they die - fact of life. The interest from many Queen fans is there. If the market didn't exist there probably wouldn't be so many. How many have you read?I can proudly say the answer is zero. And the fact that you define your morals by what others are interested in makes you a far different person than I. Also proud of that. |
c.jory 28.11.2017 09:02 |
The Real Wizard wrote:The bit about losing the foot was in Brian's own book, so I doubt it was a journalist's edit.RBoulain wrote: Wow, says the one who in an interview explained how Freddie almost lost a foot before dying, while he was talking about unrelated stuff. Fine.How do you know it was unrelated? What you read was a journalist's edit, not an uncut conversation. |
c.jory 28.11.2017 09:20 |
The Real Wizard wrote:It's in one of her David Wigg exclusives from 2013.captainjory wrote: I bet Brian doesn't realise Mary said she didn't think the remaining members deserved a portion of the royalties Freddie left them and claimed they begrudged her the home...When did she say this? Source? link Whenever this conversation comes up, the Saint Mary creepers always claim David Wigg twisted her words to make her look bad, but if that's the case, it keeps happening. In a 2000 interview with the same rag, she implied his parents didn't like her too. I don't have the original copy of that magazine but it appears both here and on Brian's website: link link Peter Freestone also mentioned reading a copy of it in his book and being upset by it. |
Sponge Caves 28.11.2017 09:29 |
The Real Wizard wrote:She's admitted twice it took her three years to fall in love with him and at one point in the early days, thought of leaving him. So maybe not the deep love for an impoverished musician it at first seems!Kuijpy wrote: Awful person, golddigging, what If Freddie was a carpenter? Then was all the contact brokan, look what she did to the guys Freddie loved, jealous golddigging bitch, Don't like her.ha ! Are you serious? If he was a carpenter, she still would have loved him. She knew him when he was dirt poor. Can't say the same for the others. Freddie said she was the only person he ever trusted. And his other "friends" wrote tell-all books that made his private life public. Looks like he made the right choice. Queen's first album comes out, suddenly she sees potential success on the horizon and falls deeply in love... (yes I know he was still poor for some time after 1973, but it's not the point!) She said this on film as well as in a written interview, so it's incontestable that her deep feelings for him came later. Odd considering she was living with him. |
Sponge Caves 28.11.2017 09:34 |
captainjory wrote:Yes, she also said this in OK magazine 2000.The Real Wizard wrote:It's in one of her David Wigg exclusives from 2013. link Whenever this conversation comes up, the Saint Mary creepers always claim David Wigg twisted her words to make her look bad, but if that's the case, it keeps happening. In a 2000 interview with the same rag, she implied his parents didn't like her too. I don't have the original copy of that magazine but it appears both here and on Brian's website: link link Peter Freestone also mentioned reading a copy of it in his book and being upset by it.captainjory wrote: I bet Brian doesn't realise Mary said she didn't think the remaining members deserved a portion of the royalties Freddie left them and claimed they begrudged her the home...When did she say this? Source? Jer mentioned she hadn't seen Mary since Freddie died, but doesn't have a problem with her inheriting the estate. I'd have thought Mary would have tried to at least stay friends. link Also in People Magazine 1977, she told a journalist she was puzzled by him because he was mentally all over the place. Mary is not as silently dignified as people think. link The photo I just uploaded is only page one, but I'm leaving it here to show you what interview its on. |
Invisible Woman 28.11.2017 10:48 |
I have read many books (fiction and biography) about kings, politicians, actors, painters, composers, scientists, etc. I'm probably a person without morality because of that. :-D This article http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2301718/Freddie-Mercury-Queen-stars-lover-Mary-Austin-cursed-fortune.html shows the intention to show her as a saint and all the other are bad guys. The title shows that-"I was cursed by Freddie's fortune: Queen star's lover got his millions, was cruelly attacked by jealous rivals and even abandoned by Mercury's own band mate" I don't think David Wigg was twisted her words. I think he was the one who most made the image of her in the public as a saint and the only person who Freddie was trusted. |
Dr Magus 28.11.2017 12:53 |
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Dr Magus 28.11.2017 12:54 |
Dr Magus wrote:Nope i think what would make us different is i'm not sat on my high horse pointing a judging finger at the rest.The Real Wizard wrote:Dr Magus wrote: Tell-all books get written about famous people after they die - fact of life. The interest from many Queen fans is there. If the market didn't exist there probably wouldn't be so many. How many have you read?I can proudly say the answer is zero. And the fact that you define your morals by what others are interested in makes you a far different person than I. Also proud of that. I haven't read any of these books either. I must have some morals after all eh. Mary may be the only one to have not written a book about Freddie but she was also the only one to have been given his mansion and his millions. Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not. It certainly removed any financial incentive for writing such a book. Maybe if Freddie had given his mansion and millions to Jim Hutton then perhaps we'd have seen a book from Mary called Mercury & Me. Who knows. |
The Fairy King 28.11.2017 12:57 |
Invisible Woman wrote: I have read many books (fiction and biography) about kings, politicians, actors, painters, composers, scientists, etc. I'm probably a person without morality because of that. :-D This article http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2301718/Freddie-Mercury-Queen-stars-lover-Mary-Austin-cursed-fortune.html shows the intention to show her as a saint and all the other are bad guys. The title shows that-"I was cursed by Freddie's fortune: Queen star's lover got his millions, was cruelly attacked by jealous rivals and even abandoned by Mercury's own band mate" I don't think David Wigg was twisted her words. I think he was the one who most made the image of her in the public as a saint and the only person who Freddie was trusted.He proposed to her before coming out? Sounds like the Will & Grace storyline. :D "As his life ebbed away, Mercury watched DVD footage of his past performances." and "It was an emotional and stress-filled mission for Mary, who lived with Mercury on and off for 20 years." what? |
c.jory 28.11.2017 13:47 |
The Fairy King wrote:Yeah I know, most David Wigg interviews claim they lived together for 20 years. Bad research, but I guess it comes from her often being in the house when Wigg's 80s interviews were conducted. Often people assume she lived there, even Thor did in the other thread.Invisible Woman wrote: I have read many books (fiction and biography) about kings, politicians, actors, painters, composers, scientists, etc. I'm probably a person without morality because of that. :-D This article http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2301718/Freddie-Mercury-Queen-stars-lover-Mary-Austin-cursed-fortune.html shows the intention to show her as a saint and all the other are bad guys. The title shows that-"I was cursed by Freddie's fortune: Queen star's lover got his millions, was cruelly attacked by jealous rivals and even abandoned by Mercury's own band mate" I don't think David Wigg was twisted her words. I think he was the one who most made the image of her in the public as a saint and the only person who Freddie was trusted.He proposed to her before coming out? Sounds like the Will & Grace storyline. :D "As his life ebbed away, Mercury watched DVD footage of his past performances." and "It was an emotional and stress-filled mission for Mary, who lived with Mercury on and off for 20 years." what? Mary claimed Freddie proposed to her Christmas 1974, one month before he met future boyfriend David Minns. The proposal was weird, as if he did it on impulse and regretted it - he never mentioned it again and it wasn't even a proper ring! WTF Freddie. |
YourValentine 01.12.2017 09:32 |
I have seldom seen such judgamental crap in a thread on QZ. People getting all wound up about the relationship between two people they never knew. To me Freddie Mercury seems to have been quite an intelligent guy who was totally capable to manage his own life and who certainly knew to whom he left his house. To leave messages there is beyond stupid because he has been dead for 26 years and is not there to read them. There is a certain cult-like "fan" group who is really pathetic. If you feel the need to pilgrim to a site where you can worship Freddie, go to Montreux, they provide for statue and tour. There you can leave all your flowers, self-painted pictures and all the other little offerings like crazy teenagers and leave poor Mary Austin alone, she owes those "fans" nothing. |
TRS-Romania 02.12.2017 18:06 |
Isnt the house owned by the Estate of Freddie Mercury, Mary having the right to use the house for a period of 50 years after Freddie died? |
c.jory 02.12.2017 22:44 |
TRS-Romania wrote: Isnt the house owned by the Estate of Freddie Mercury, Mary having the right to use the house for a period of 50 years after Freddie died?Yes! |
Fireplace 02.12.2017 23:29 |
"When I find myself in walls of writing Monster Mary comes to me Speaking words of lawsuit Let it be" That last sentence is the only one I actually stand by. |
The Real Wizard 06.12.2017 19:57 |
Dr Magus wrote: Mary may be the only one to have not written a book about Freddie but she was also the only one to have been given his mansion and his millions. Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not. It certainly removed any financial incentive for writing such a book.So she's potentially as guilty as the people who cashed in because she didn't need to cash in? Sound logic. Enough speculation, please. |
The Real Wizard 06.12.2017 19:57 |
YourValentine wrote: I have seldom seen such judgamental crap in a thread on QZ. People getting all wound up about the relationship between two people they never knew. To me Freddie Mercury seems to have been quite an intelligent guy who was totally capable to manage his own life and who certainly knew to whom he left his house. To leave messages there is beyond stupid because he has been dead for 26 years and is not there to read them. There is a certain cult-like "fan" group who is really pathetic. If you feel the need to pilgrim to a site where you can worship Freddie, go to Montreux, they provide for statue and tour. There you can leave all your flowers, self-painted pictures and all the other little offerings like crazy teenagers and leave poor Mary Austin alone, she owes those "fans" nothing.Bang on. |
john bodega 07.12.2017 03:45 |
^ not really. It's a kind of ass-backwards netherworld between respecting the dead and 'why leave notes? he's dead and doesn't care!' that you people all seem to live in. Sentiment is fine, but only in the manner of your choosing? Pfff! And again, removing the possibility of non-destructive platitudes is just mean spirited uptight of her. I would piss into her breakfast if I could, but as it is I'll just have to enjoy the memories i have from my visit there. Can't stress enough though, the permanent inscriptions/scratchings/paintings were inappropriate and dumb - there's a way to display a tribute without fucking someone's property. Kind of sick of the notion that it's an all or nothing deal, though. You people suck. |
Dr Magus 07.12.2017 10:23 |
The Real Wizard wrote:All i've done is keep an open mind on Mary and her moral standing precisely BECAUSE i don't know the woman.Dr Magus wrote: Mary may be the only one to have not written a book about Freddie but she was also the only one to have been given his mansion and his millions. Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not. It certainly removed any financial incentive for writing such a book.So she's potentially as guilty as the people who cashed in because she didn't need to cash in? Sound logic. Enough speculation, please. As has been pointed quite rightly by Yourvalentine, none of us know her and none of us knew Freddie. |
Day dop 07.12.2017 12:43 |
I've bumped into both David Wigg and Mary Austin whilst at work in London .Wigg is a really friendly guy. |
john bodega 07.12.2017 14:32 |
Unsure of the ethical difference between writing a book and sharing anecdotes in a documentary, anyway. |