woodi485485 29.10.2017 08:50 |
Many apologies if this has been covered before, but why is there a need for additional drummer on this and the last few tours?........I guess when Rufus played drums, it was more of a favour from Roger to his son to give him some experience??? Also, why does Roger's drum tech always seem to be beside him at the side of his kit during the show? |
dysan 29.10.2017 09:01 |
Stamina - and of course when RT needs to come out and sing a little. |
dysan 29.10.2017 09:02 |
And Adam Lambert looks like Gary Glitter, and the Glitter Band had 2 drummers. |
Golden Salmon 29.10.2017 09:08 |
Roger: "I'm old..." |
Cruella de Vil 29.10.2017 12:07 |
To some extent I agree, but I do recall Roger said that he had developed arthritis in two of his fingers. Anyway, Tyler adds a lot to the vocal mix. |
Vocal harmony 29.10.2017 15:08 |
In fact Tyler and Rufus before him play percussion. Neither sit behind a second drum kit. Having said that both help Roger, but also it gives the band a wider percussive/drum sound than of old. As for Roger's drum tech. Where would you suggest he goes, he needs to be close enough to see and act on anything going wrong. Neil Peart's drum tech usually sat behind the Bass backline facing the kit, so was hidden from view, but he was doing the same job as Roger's or any other drummers drum tech. The layout of the stage setup Queen use means there is no where from the guy to be hidden close enough and with a clear view. |
mike hunt 29.10.2017 16:05 |
I Like Roger as a drummer, but for a virtuous drummer watch Neil Peart at his age doing what he does. No offense Roger Fans. I think All those drum machines he used in the 80's and even Innuendo hurt his drumming ability. Instead of growing he regressed. |
mooghead 29.10.2017 17:44 |
A little bit unfair I think. Queen tried to keep up with trends and they were machines, look at live stuff and Roger was as energetic as anyone. He is the way he is now simply due to age.. and he is Roger Taylor who has nothing left to prove. |
inu-liger 30.10.2017 00:45 |
I guess some of you forget that Crystal would also do the same thing even way back for Roger ;P (you can see him behind the kit in Rio, for instance) |
Fireplace 30.10.2017 01:17 |
mike hunt wrote: I Like Roger as a drummer, but for a virtuous drummer watch Neil Pert at his age doing what he does. No offense Roger Fans. I think All those drum machines he used in the 80's and even Innuendo hurt his drumming ability. Instead of growing he regressed.You mean RETIRED drummer Neil PEART? I hear he's a great Roger fan. |
mike hunt 30.10.2017 02:09 |
Watch his last tour. I rest my case! I rather go out like peart did than how Roger is going out. Do you not agree? |
mike hunt 30.10.2017 04:34 |
Touring with Lambert compared with The Clockwork Angels tour. Let's get real. Peart was Inspired by many drummers, none are named Roger Talyor. Yea I know, Talyor was Pearts favorite drummer the same way Rodgers was Freddie's favorite singer. |
dysan 30.10.2017 08:09 |
I should imagine there is someone called Rodger Talyor somewhere who plays the drums. |
earwig 30.10.2017 09:44 |
“As for Roger's drum tech. Where would you suggest he goes, he needs to be close enough to see and act on anything going wrong.” Yes indeed and Pete Malandrone will be in direct sight of Brian too for string breakages, guitar changes etc etc. |
dysan 30.10.2017 10:51 |
In the same way Prenter was near the piano for encore break coke and blowies. |
Fireplace 30.10.2017 11:13 |
dysan wrote: I should imagine there is someone called Rodger Talyor somewhere who plays the drums.Ably supported by Neal Pert. |
Fireplace 30.10.2017 11:14 |
How many drummers does it take to change a lightbulb? Five: One to screw the bulb in, and four to talk about how much better Neil Peart could've done it |
matt z 30.10.2017 13:51 |
Fireplace wrote: How many drummers does it take to change a lightbulb? Five: One to screw the bulb in, and four to talk about how much better Neil Peart could've done itNeil Peart would've given that joke better delivery |
woodi485485 30.10.2017 15:53 |
Exactly my point, he sits there so close to Roger, as if Roger is in need of something all the time |
bucsateflon 30.10.2017 16:40 |
Fireplace wrote: You mean RETIRED drummer Neil PEART? I hear he's a great Roger fan.hah well said |
cmsdrums 30.10.2017 17:53 |
woodi485485 wrote: Exactly my point, he sits there so close to Roger, as if Roger is in need of something all the timeThat’s what the drum tech does; Roger might need his mic stand moving, might want a drink, cymbal stand might come lose, he may break a skin, he may want to change his monitor mix....for all these things and more the tech needs to be ready to react. |
woodi485485 30.10.2017 19:05 |
cmsdrums wrote:I understand the need for a drum tech, but out of curiosity, can you let me know who else has such an attentive drum tech?woodi485485 wrote: Exactly my point, he sits there so close to Roger, as if Roger is in need of something all the timeThat’s what the drum tech does; Roger might need his mic stand moving, might want a drink, cymbal stand might come lose, he may break a skin, he may want to change his monitor mix....for all these things and more the tech needs to be ready to react. |
mike hunt 30.10.2017 19:33 |
Yea, Pearts retired until Rush decide to create a new album full of new songs, while Roger and Brian keep touring with an American Idol singer playing We Will Rock You for the millionth time....he may be retired from touring is Peart, but Geddy said they probably will be creative in the future. Rush fans liked their last album. When was the last time Brian and Roger created new music that Queen fans liked? By the way, Peart played amazing on that last Record. Still waiting for something new from Queen. |
Fireplace 30.10.2017 20:11 |
mike hunt wrote: Yea, Pearts retired until Rush decide to create a new album full of new songs, while Roger and Brian keep touring with an American Idol singer playing We Will Rock You for the millionth time....he may be retired from touring is Peart, but Geddy said they probably will be creative in the future. Rush fans liked their last album. When was the last time Brian and Roger created new music that Queen fans liked? By the way, Peart played amazing on that last Record. Still waiting for something new from Queen.Easy there Mike, no one's dissing your beloved Rush, no need to blow a fuse. I quite like Rush as long as they're playing instrumentals. You are fully entitled to the opinion that Queen 2017 are pure crap. It just begs the question why you're not proclaiming that on a Rush forum. |
Fireplace 30.10.2017 20:13 |
matt z wrote:I bet he would. Probably wouldn't have any trouble with the light bulb either.Fireplace wrote: How many drummers does it take to change a lightbulb? Five: One to screw the bulb in, and four to talk about how much better Neil Peart could've done itNeil Peart would've given that joke better delivery |
cmsdrums 30.10.2017 20:39 |
woodi485485 wrote:A lot do, but perhaps are just better at camouflaging!! Roger has certainly always had his drum tech very close at hand from at least late 70s onwards. Even Josh McCrae was in the same position throughout the Freddie Tribute concert in 92.cmsdrums wrote:I understand the need for a drum tech, but out of curiosity, can you let me know who else has such an attentive drum tech?woodi485485 wrote: Exactly my point, he sits there so close to Roger, as if Roger is in need of something all the timeThat’s what the drum tech does; Roger might need his mic stand moving, might want a drink, cymbal stand might come lose, he may break a skin, he may want to change his monitor mix....for all these things and more the tech needs to be ready to react. |
cmsdrums 30.10.2017 20:57 |
Here’s a nice little interview/article that touches on his interaction with Crystal: link |
Togg 31.10.2017 12:15 |
Techs for bands ALWAYS (if they are any good) keep a close watch on the artist, Crystal did before just check out the live videos he's on all of them, as a drummer you can't walk over to someone if a head breaks or a cymbal cracks or falls, stands can become lose and drums can slip, he may need a drink or the sound may not be right so he needs someone on hand to help, every pro dummer has this type of tech. As for why have extra help out there....why not? it works |