GrowUpGlamberts 13.10.2017 23:22 |
link Cunt. His nasal vocal is more irritating than Bob Dylan, Tiny Tim and Chad Kroeger put together. |
stevelondon20 14.10.2017 02:38 |
He is one of the most arrogant shitcunts to ever grace the music industry. He's incredibly talented, but he is a rude wanker. |
felix ibex 14.10.2017 03:14 |
hes a Drug Pig and Overrated just Vile |
Sheer Brass Neck 14.10.2017 03:14 |
Fair reply by a commenter on the NME site: "Serial song thief & obsessed Beatles fan doesn't like one of the worlds greatest rock bands. I think Brian, John & Rog will be ok with that." Oasis had a few good songs, lots of swagger but really 20 levels below Queen. Liam's big mouth helped sell things but ultimately a shit singer propelled by his brother's nice songwriting. |
Michael Scapp 14.10.2017 03:22 |
My best friend also says that Brian's guitar sounds muffled, I can't hear what he's hearing |
conundrumme 14.10.2017 03:23 |
His bad reputation supersedes his talent - always has been. |
The Real Wizard 14.10.2017 07:06 |
GrowUpGlamberts wrote: Cunt. His nasal vocal is more irritating than Bob Dylan, Tiny Tim and Chad Kroeger put together.Hilarious. You win the internet for today. |
dysan 14.10.2017 07:15 |
He's just one of those thick people (like me) who on another day would've said 'aye wicked man' when asked about Queen. |
Nick Browning 14.10.2017 07:44 |
I don't mind that he doesn't like Queen because everyone should have a preference with they provide 'valid examples' why they like and/or don't like certain things. Liam's reasoning for not liking Queen doesn't really make sense because he wasn't able to provide examples of Brian's guitar sounding like "he’s got it clogged in his ass". That sort of comment is similar to person saying I don't like Queen because of Freddie's sexuality and his AIDs diagnose. Overall, Gallagher is an arrogant prick who has a big mouth and not willing to work. |
user1 14.10.2017 08:06 |
Liam is one of the few real rock stars left. All the others only say things their PR agent approves. I'm glad there's still someone out there who clearly states what he likes and what not, even if I don't share this particular opinion. Btw, his latest album is great and sold about 100.000 records in the UK in one week. Neither Queen nor any of the members released anything comparable since 1995. |
The Fairy King 14.10.2017 08:34 |
user1 wrote: Liam is one of the few real rock stars left. All the others only say things their PR agent approves. I'm glad there's still someone out there who clearly states what he likes and what not, even if I don't share this particular opinion. Btw, his latest album is great and sold about 100.000 records in the UK in one week. Neither Queen nor any of the members released anything comparable since 1995.What makes that fake mumbling buffoon a rockstar? If 100.000 idiots but his record, doesn't make him a better artist. Hell Bieber outsells him and his brother combined...by your logic....xD |
user1 14.10.2017 08:43 |
What makes Liam a rock star? Silly question, indeed. Check this video. What you can see is a bunch of professional musicians and one real rock star. Liam Gallagher. link And please read my posting carefully. I wrote it is great AND sold. The connection is important... |
Invisible Woman 14.10.2017 08:57 |
When I was in teenage years I liked to listen some songs of Oasis, but frankly, I didn't like much his voice and way of singing. I don't like the fact that he is talking about other people in such a way. One is to say his opinion and the other to insult people. He should respect musicians who are more successful and more talented than him. |
user1 14.10.2017 09:22 |
"I mean, I get Freddie Mercury has a great voice and all that, and obviously they’ve got some great songs." "Listen, they’re a top band and obviously they’ve got great songs" "I respect him and all that, but I don’t know, man." Enough respect? ;) |
YourValentine 14.10.2017 09:27 |
user1 wrote: Liam is one of the few real rock stars left. All the others only say things their PR agent approves. I'm glad there's still someone out there who clearly states what he likes and what not, even if I don't share this particular opinion. Btw, his latest album is great and sold about 100.000 records in the UK in one week. Neither Queen nor any of the members released anything comparable since 1995.Surely there is a difference between "stating what he likes" and insulting another artist. What exactly has selling 100 000 albums to do with? Does it entitle him to belittle other artists? Once he is 70, will he have sold over 300 million records, written some of the most iconic songs of all times, have obtained a PHD, written books about various subjects, made a difference for AIDS patients worldwide? Then he can think about what he has achieved in life compared to Brian. Probably he will rather be known for drug abuse, drunken fights, and out-of-court settlements with the victims of his assaults. Really very world class Rock'n Roll. |
mooghead 14.10.2017 09:38 |
"Does it entitle him to belittle other artists?" If he is asked a question he should answer it honestly, not a lot of people would. If everyone just gave the polite answer the world would be horrifically magnolia. Liam Gallaghers vocal on Slide Away is one of the best vocal performances ever IMHO. |
user1 14.10.2017 09:38 |
@Your Valentine: What has it to do with it? He's relevant, man. He's releasing new music that is relevant. He's not (unlike many current "artists" who sell a lot of records) controlled by a management. He's the Keith Moon of our days. That's what rock n roll is about. Not about upper class book worms. Indeed, he's not a man of the past who damages his legacy by touring with a casting show boy. @mooghead: Exactly! |
The Fairy King 14.10.2017 09:55 |
user1 wrote: @Your Valentine: What has it to do with it? He's relevant, man. He's releasing new music that is relevant. He's not (unlike many current "artists" who sell a lot of records) controlled by a management. He's the Keith Moon of our days. That's what rock n roll is about. Not about upper class book worms. Indeed, he's not a man of the past who damages his legacy by touring with a casting show boy. @mooghead: Exactly!At least the "casting show boy" can sing. |
The Fairy King 14.10.2017 10:01 |
mooghead wrote: "Does it entitle him to belittle other artists?" If he is asked a question he should answer it honestly, not a lot of people would. If everyone just gave the polite answer the world would be horrifically magnolia. Liam Gallaghers vocal on Slide Away is one of the best vocal performances ever IMHO.Oh so the barrage of bitching(mumbling profanities) about artists for the last 25 years is a good thing? |
The Fairy King 14.10.2017 10:01 |
YourValentine wrote:QFTuser1 wrote: Liam is one of the few real rock stars left. All the others only say things their PR agent approves. I'm glad there's still someone out there who clearly states what he likes and what not, even if I don't share this particular opinion. Btw, his latest album is great and sold about 100.000 records in the UK in one week. Neither Queen nor any of the members released anything comparable since 1995.Surely there is a difference between "stating what he likes" and insulting another artist. What exactly has selling 100 000 albums to do with? Does it entitle him to belittle other artists? Once he is 70, will he have sold over 300 million records, written some of the most iconic songs of all times, have obtained a PHD, written books about various subjects, made a difference for AIDS patients worldwide? Then he can think about what he has achieved in life compared to Brian. Probably he will rather be known for drug abuse, drunken fights, and out-of-court settlements with the victims of his assaults. Really very world class Rock'n Roll. |
mooghead 14.10.2017 10:17 |
The Fairy King wrote:It is neither a good thing or a bad thing. It's just the way it is.mooghead wrote: "Does it entitle him to belittle other artists?" If he is asked a question he should answer it honestly, not a lot of people would. If everyone just gave the polite answer the world would be horrifically magnolia. Liam Gallaghers vocal on Slide Away is one of the best vocal performances ever IMHO.Oh so the barrage of bitching(mumbling profanities) about artists for the last 25 years is a good thing? |
user1 14.10.2017 10:32 |
The Fairy King wrote:At least the "casting show boy" can sing.LMAO. You're complaining about someone who says what he thinks (which is too rude for you) by implying that he can't sing. Let me guess, that's not rude? |
Dr Magus 14.10.2017 10:34 |
Liam Gallagher looks like the offspring of brother/sister chimpanzees but everyone's entitled to their opinion. I remember years ago Brian was asked if Noel Gallagher was a good guitarist? His reply was "no but Oasis is very much a band thing." What he MEANT to say was "no he's a fucking shit guitarist and Oasis are a fucking shit band full of shit-brained cunts and no-talent wankers" Brian opted for a tactful reply because he has more class and intelligence. |
dysan 14.10.2017 10:47 |
User1: you fall into the trap of thinking record sales mean quality. I've heard the album. It's very very poor. |
user1 14.10.2017 11:16 |
dysan: You fail to understand my postings. That is very very poor. |
people on streets 14.10.2017 11:59 |
user1 wrote: What makes Liam a rock star? Silly question, indeed. Check this video. What you can see is a bunch of professional musicians and one real rock star. Liam Gallagher. link And please read my posting carefully. I wrote it is great AND sold. The connection is important..."a real rockstar" That's so childish. What does it mean anyway? |
people on streets 14.10.2017 12:01 |
YourValentine wrote:I agree. You can dislike something/someone. But why insult? No reason to do so. Just rude and childish. Nothing to do with being a "rockstar". Whatever that may be.user1 wrote: Liam is one of the few real rock stars left. All the others only say things their PR agent approves. I'm glad there's still someone out there who clearly states what he likes and what not, even if I don't share this particular opinion. Btw, his latest album is great and sold about 100.000 records in the UK in one week. Neither Queen nor any of the members released anything comparable since 1995.Surely there is a difference between "stating what he likes" and insulting another artist. What exactly has selling 100 000 albums to do with? Does it entitle him to belittle other artists? Once he is 70, will he have sold over 300 million records, written some of the most iconic songs of all times, have obtained a PHD, written books about various subjects, made a difference for AIDS patients worldwide? Then he can think about what he has achieved in life compared to Brian. Probably he will rather be known for drug abuse, drunken fights, and out-of-court settlements with the victims of his assaults. Really very world class Rock'n Roll. |
people on streets 14.10.2017 12:02 |
Noel is much better than Liam anyway. Always been, always will be. |
Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira 14.10.2017 12:10 |
I never understood what people see in this Liam Noel guy. IMHO their solo and Oasis songs are mediocre. To me, they sound like dozens of other similar indie bands that appear each week. BTW, I do like indie rock and indie pop a lot. Anyway, even if I find him hugely irrelevant, everyone is entitled to a polite opinion. No, wait... He was very unpolite, thus, mediocre once again. Cheers, Ogre- |
Holly2003 14.10.2017 12:10 |
He's a skip rat. |
stevelondon20 14.10.2017 13:18 |
user1 wrote: Liam is one of the few real rock stars left. All the others only say things their PR agent approves. I'm glad there's still someone out there who clearly states what he likes and what not, even if I don't share this particular opinion. Btw, his latest album is great and sold about 100.000 records in the UK in one week. Neither Queen nor any of the members released anything comparable since 1995.There's no denying his Talent. He is mega Talented. But he is still a rude arrogant prick. I do love his Music, but I certainly do not love his attitude. |
stevelondon20 14.10.2017 13:21 |
Dr Magus wrote: Liam Gallagher looks like the offspring of brother/sister chimpanzees but everyone's entitled to their opinion. I remember years ago Brian was asked if Noel Gallagher was a good guitarist? His reply was "no but Oasis is very much a band thing." What he MEANT to say was "no he's a fucking shit guitarist and Oasis are a fucking shit band full of shit-brained cunts and no-talent wankers" Brian opted for a tactful reply because he has more class and intelligence.That is a quality post. Kudos to you mate. |
Sheer Brass Neck 14.10.2017 14:26 |
Apart from the fact he's a cynical media manipulator who, like Donald Trump knows that controversy sells, what does his statement mean? Brian's guitar sound dwarfs his beloved The Beatles sounds, and there guitars due to technology sound like they were recorded in tin can. If it's a sound thing he can certainly not like it, but Brian's distinctive tone and clarity of tone is almost universally loved by musos. Liam can hate it, but what is he comparing his guitar sound to? |
jrd1951 14.10.2017 18:01 |
I actually quite like this Prick.He has a lot to say,and I like some of his stuff.He actually said Queen were a good band,and Freddie a great singer and all that.I still reach for my Oasis album when driving or need cheering up.And if we asked 'Is this man a prat?',he would probably thank us,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, |
Day dop 14.10.2017 18:24 |
Liam's new album is full of hits that'll be remembered in 25 years. I jest. |
Riku M 14.10.2017 19:26 |
Interesting that people here find Liam very talented. I saw him on James Corden and he sang out of tune and the song wasn't much to brag about either. I was not impressed. |
cmsdrums 14.10.2017 19:49 |
user1 wrote: dysan: You fail to understand my postings. That is very very poor.And in general, people won’t tend to know if an album is brilliant, indifferent or shit until they’ve bought it, so preorder and first day/week sales until they’ve heard it a bit later via streaming, friends etc is a bit of a red herring really. |
dudeofqueen 14.10.2017 23:30 |
Fucking northern monkey. |
RafaelS 15.10.2017 02:49 |
Not really a nice way to say it, but I said it recently that Brian lost the plot a long time ago guitar-wise. |
Wiley 15.10.2017 11:19 |
Liam being Liam. Quite frankly, that's as much of a compliment I've heard him say about anybody other than The Beatles, Paul Weller or The Verve. Nothing to see here. |
musicland munich 15.10.2017 19:21 |
Funny ! Everytime "I" think of an ASS, Liam's face pops up in MY mind. |
Dr Magus 16.10.2017 10:44 |
George Harrison was asked what he thought of Oasis and said something along the lines of "they're awful" Liam's response was to ask him for a fight cos he 'wanted to knock his block off'. Class eh? What a rockstar! |
thomasquinn 32989 16.10.2017 11:27 |
Oasis...who will remember them fifty years from now? A bunch of spoilt brats who re-record the same three songs for each new album, then flesh them out with blatant plagiarism. they managed to put out the fastest-selling album in UK history in '97, only to have their popularity completely collapse right afterwards. Getting insulted by the Gallaghers is proof that you're doing *something* right. They are musical morons. All they know is how to steal songs. Well, not even that - they get caught every time. Please indulge me as I quote about Liam's wonderful personality: In 1998 the Hong Kong-based airline Cathay Pacific banned Gallagher after he abused passengers and crew on a flight between the UK and Australia. During the band's Australian tour, he made a substantial out-of-court settlement to a British backpacker he allegedly headbutted. In 2006, it was alleged that Gallagher had a drunken fight with Paul Gascoigne at the Groucho Club which ended with Gallagher setting off a fire extinguisher in Gascoigne's face. Gallagher has made known his distaste for many non-Brits' tastes and conventions (particularly those of Australians and Americans). On an early US tour, Gallagher regularly made derisive remarks about Americans, as well as his brother Noel, which led to an ultimatum from the guitarist who briefly left the band in 1994. Utter scum. He'll be like the POS Johnny Rotten, a bitter old useless lout, maybe even as racist as Rotten, if he manages to live long enough. |
Vocal harmony 16.10.2017 13:17 |
^^^^ all of this and more. You forgot the incident at Milan airport (I believe it was) where he was being his usual foul mouthed self talking about various "foreign" passengers. A 50 something year old Italian business man asked him to be quiet. Gallagher told him to stop him if he thought he was hard enough. . . . Turns out he was and he punched him to the ground! What a twat. |
user1 16.10.2017 18:30 |
@Dr Magus: That's not quite how it was. link link 20 years ago, GH asked: "...will we remember U2 in 30 years? [...] I doubt it" I guess we all know the answer... The reactions of the users here prove that Liam Gallagher (one of the most successful and talented rock stars of the last 25 years) has done his job well. Once again. What a legend. |
thisissparta789789 16.10.2017 20:47 |
Liam and Oasis in general musically: link Liam as a person: link |
mike hunt 17.10.2017 04:28 |
Besides understanding the genius of Queen, The UK has bad taste in music. They had me thinking Robbie Williams was better than Elvis and Mercury combined, then bought his album and felt ashamed of myself for going for that UK Hype. America may have never fully appreciated Queen the way the rest of the world has, but generally we have much better taste and understanding of what makes a legendary Rock band. Like The Beatles (obviously) Stones (obviously) Zep, The Who, Hendrix Experience, Floyd are the big 6 here. Then The Doors, Rush, Queen, ACDC, Guns Roses, While in the Uk The Who don't even get a mention as an all time great. They say oasis, Just another UK Hype Job. Bought one album and thought it had a couple of decent songs. But better than the Who or Zep? Or Floyd? He's about a guy, In Brian May who Influenced brilliant players like Malmstien among others. |
mike hunt 17.10.2017 04:34 |
I don't care if he's an ass or not. His band wasn't on Queens level. |
cmsdrums 17.10.2017 08:20 |
user1 wrote: Once again. What a BELLend.There, corrected that for you...! |
Holly2003 17.10.2017 10:05 |
mike hunt wrote: Besides understanding the genius of Queen, The UK has bad taste in music. They had me thinking Robbie Williams was better than Elvis and Mercury combined, then bought his album and felt ashamed of myself for going for that UK Hype. America may have never fully appreciated Queen the way the rest of the world has, but generally we have much better taste and understanding of what makes a legendary Rock band. Like The Beatles (obviously) Stones (obviously) Zep, The Who, Hendrix Experience, Floyd are the big 6 here. Then The Doors, Rush, Queen, ACDC, Guns Roses, While in the Uk The Who don't even get a mention as an all time great. They say oasis, Just another UK Hype Job. Bought one album and thought it had a couple of decent songs. But better than the Who or Zep? Or Floyd? He's about a guy, In Brian May who Influenced brilliant players like Malmstien among others.The UK has bad taste in music? This from the country who brought us Kiss? lol! If you fall for music hype that's your fault and nothing to do with some UK-US rivalry. "in the Uk The Who don't even get a mention as an all time great." Would be interesting to know what you base that comment on -- if you based it on anything at all, that is. I suspect you are on the wind-up. |
Vocal harmony 17.10.2017 13:55 |
mike hunt wrote: Besides understanding the genius of Queen, The UK has bad taste in music. They had me thinking Robbie Williams was better than Elvis and Mercury combined, then bought his album and felt ashamed of myself for going for that UK Hype. America may have never fully appreciated Queen the way the rest of the world has, but generally we have much better taste and understanding of what makes a legendary Rock band. Like The Beatles (obviously) Stones (obviously) Zep, The Who, Hendrix Experience, Floyd are the big 6 here. Then The Doors, Rush, Queen, ACDC, Guns Roses, While in the Uk The Who don't even get a mention as an all time great. They say oasis, Just another UK Hype Job. Bought one album and thought it had a couple of decent songs. But better than the Who or Zep? Or Floyd? He's about a guy, In Brian May who Influenced brilliant players like Malmstien among others.So, what about the rest of the world then. Are they as un musical as the UK or are they up there with your view of American understanding of what's good, what's bad and what's hype. You fell for the hype, by your own admission. Five of your legendary bands are British, the American one needed UK management and audience to get his career off the ground. Take a look around at the current/successful US bands and the number of them who site UK acts as being an influence, as much as American acts. Music is music, it doesn't mater where it comes from, or who plays it. The industry hypes everything because the industry needs to make sales. It isn't hard to look beyond the hype and crap that gets written and discover music for yourself and not be led to product that really is bad. The one thing that's certain, like any form of art, it shouldn't be about what one countries view is over another, and if you make it such you better know what your arguing about. |
mike hunt 17.10.2017 15:06 |
I think you misunderstood me a bit....I'm not comparing UK and American artists, most of my favorites are From the UK. Queen my favorite band, Priest among others. My point is in America, here In Ny for Example, we do a compitition of lengendary bands once a year or greatest Rock songs of all time and those top bands are mentioned, Including The Who and Queen. I read up on Uk shows and they have the same type of polls and The Who and Zep are never listed. A crap band like oasis are. I never understood that. Remember Roger Talyor saying "where the fuck are The Who" when Queen won best UK artist. They wern't even on The list. |
The Fairy King 18.10.2017 11:24 |
mike hunt wrote: They had me thinking Robbie Williams was better than Elvis and Mercury combined, then bought his album and felt ashamed of myself for going for that UK Hype. .And who is to blame for that? The press or you for believing them? Robbie in a league of his own. He has his own style of songwriting and his own sound. Robbie would be the first to tell you that shit ain't true and would be the first to admit defeat against the genius of Elvis and Freddie. |
mike hunt 18.10.2017 16:25 |
Well, that was before I knew about youtube and all that. That's not even getting my point anyway. The bottom line is the Uk puts oasis before The Who and Floyd. That's sad. |
mike hunt 18.10.2017 16:28 |
I seen their best of list, it's something like Beatles, Queen, Stones,U2, Oasis and some other crap bands in the mix. No Who, No Zep, No Floyd. |
AlbaNo1 18.10.2017 18:45 |
Oasis were the band of a generation. Definitely wrote some songs that will be timeless in British Isles pop culture. That said, I dont particularly like them. Liam tempered his obnoxious comments with some pretty respectful remarks by his standards. I bet Noel hates Queen a lot more and genuinely. Its a working chip on the shoulder class thing ,and Queen are a very middle class band . |
LOTV 19.10.2017 11:46 |
GrowUpGlamberts wrote: link Cunt. His nasal vocal is more irritating than Bob Dylan, Tiny Tim and Chad Kroeger put together.Ha, I knew this would upset some sensitive Queenies. LG cracks me up. He's great for a quote. He also said that obviously Freddie was a great singer and Queen were a top band, but I guess that's not relevant. So what Queen aren't his thing, they aren't a lot of people's. |
LOTV 19.10.2017 11:48 |
Invisible Woman wrote: When I was in teenage years I liked to listen some songs of Oasis, but frankly, I didn't like much his voice and way of singing. I don't like the fact that he is talking about other people in such a way. One is to say his opinion and the other to insult people. He should respect musicians who are more successful and more talented than him.a) Why should he? b) He says he does respect Brian. |
LOTV 19.10.2017 11:50 |
YourValentine wrote:He's said he doesn't like Brian's guitar sound for fuck sake, not called him a serial rapist. Calm the fuck down.user1 wrote: Liam is one of the few real rock stars left. All the others only say things their PR agent approves. I'm glad there's still someone out there who clearly states what he likes and what not, even if I don't share this particular opinion. Btw, his latest album is great and sold about 100.000 records in the UK in one week. Neither Queen nor any of the members released anything comparable since 1995.Surely there is a difference between "stating what he likes" and insulting another artist. What exactly has selling 100 000 albums to do with? Does it entitle him to belittle other artists? Once he is 70, will he have sold over 300 million records, written some of the most iconic songs of all times, have obtained a PHD, written books about various subjects, made a difference for AIDS patients worldwide? Then he can think about what he has achieved in life compared to Brian. Probably he will rather be known for drug abuse, drunken fights, and out-of-court settlements with the victims of his assaults. Really very world class Rock'n Roll. |
LOTV 19.10.2017 11:59 |
AlbaNo1 wrote: Oasis were the band of a generation. Definitely wrote some songs that will be timeless in British Isles pop culture. That said, I dont particularly like them. Liam tempered his obnoxious comments with some pretty respectful remarks by his standards. I bet Noel hates Queen a lot more and genuinely. Its a working chip on the shoulder class thing ,and Queen are a very middle class band .Noel and Alan Maghee are both Queen fans actually. Why do think Noel was so excited about where they recorded What's the Story? |
Invisible Woman 19.10.2017 13:36 |
@LOTV All right, he doesn't have to respect them,he doesn't have to like how Brian plays the guitar or Queen music. But he doesn't have to use such words, he could say it all in a little better way. |
AlbaNo1 19.10.2017 17:00 |
Alan McGee definitely is a Queen fan and has written articles about Freddie. Noel , I remember him slating either Blur or Suede saying their record was worse "than the worst Queen album" So cannot imagine him to be a fan. |
Day dop 20.10.2017 09:21 |
I've always despised them, even back in the 90s. I could never stand Liam's whiny, droning voice either. They've always come across as thuggish and arrogant. Liam in particular has always come over as thick. The kind of people I wouldn't want anywhere me in real life. They've boasted about being thieves / about stealing lawn mowers so they could sell them and buy drugs before they got famous, which doesn't surprise me in the slightest. They're scummy fuckers. I'm far from alone when it comes to my dislike of them too. If you can't see Liam for the moron he is and that kind of mindset appeals to you, then you're probably a bit thick yourself. I recall the way Noel insulted Micheal Hutchence at the Brit awards in '96. Hutchence was clearly happy to present an award to Oasis, and they came on stage and Noel said "Has-beens should not be presenting awards to gonna-be's"... Hutchence walked off stage, and apparently that made matters worse for him when it came to his depression. All in all it was totally unjustified. Peter Kay nailed it at the 2010 brit awards after Liam threw his microphone into the crowd (see video).... link I'm also glad George Harrison slated them, considering they were a poor Beatles wannabe band. They must've hated that. |
Sebastian 20.10.2017 12:27 |
AlbaNo1 wrote: Noel , I remember him slating either Blur or Suede saying their record was worse "than the worst Queen album" So cannot imagine him to be a fan.You can be a fan and rate one (or more) of their albums as quite poor. I certainly do - as much as I admire all four Queen members, I think some of their songs (e.g. 'Delilah') were frankly horrendous; same for, say, The Beatles and 'Yellow Submarine' (it's not horrendous per se, but I hate it) or the Bee Gees and 'You Should Be Dancing' (never liked it). By the way, there's absolutely no reason why 'A' cannot criticise 'B' unless 'A' has achieved more than 'B' (or is more talented, etc.). You can agree with Liam (I don't) but the best course of action if something he did or said offends you is to ignore it. The fact people (myself included) have bothered to read this thread and take part of it is just a way of giving him (and his quote) far more power than he (and it) should have. |
Mr. Bed Guy 20.10.2017 13:10 |
Liam's new album is "ok". And he at least has a new album to please his fans. While our "band" releases one incomplete Best-Of-Box-Set- Coloured-Vinyl-shit after another. And tours with that awful pale contest singer. And, to be honest: Brian's guitar playing is only a far memory. He's a relic. Since 20 years he only plays the same slow and boring orchestral licks. Brian isn't relevant in these times anymore. Just be honest with yourself instead of lying to yourself. |
mooghead 20.10.2017 20:43 |
Day dop wrote: I've always despised them, even back in the 90s. I could never stand Liam's whiny, droning voice either. They've always come across as thuggish and arrogant. Liam in particular has always come over as thick. The kind of people I wouldn't want anywhere me in real life. They've boasted about being thieves / about stealing lawn mowers so they could sell them and buy drugs before they got famous, which doesn't surprise me in the slightest. They're scummy fuckers. I'm far from alone when it comes to my dislike of them too. If you can't see Liam for the moron he is and that kind of mindset appeals to you, then you're probably a bit thick yourself. I recall the way Noel insulted Micheal Hutchence at the Brit awards in '96. Hutchence was clearly happy to present an award to Oasis, and they came on stage and Noel said "Has-beens should not be presenting awards to gonna-be's"... Hutchence walked off stage, and apparently that made matters worse for him when it came to his depression. All in all it was totally unjustified. Peter Kay nailed it at the 2010 brit awards after Liam threw his microphone into the crowd (see video).... link I'm also glad George Harrison slated them, considering they were a poor Beatles wannabe band. They must've hated that.What a stupid post. It is about the music, you have just been suckered by the image they have chosen to portray. As for equating what Noel said at the Brits contributing to MH's suicide... are you fucking serious? |
master marathon runner 21.10.2017 05:29 |
user1 wrote: He's said he doesn't like Brian's guitar sound for fuck sake, not called him a serial rapist. Calm the fuck down.. I'll calm the fuck down you in a minute ! |
Day dop 21.10.2017 10:23 |
mooghead wrote:What a stupid reply. I already addressed the music - I can't stand Liam's whiny, droning voice.Day dop wrote: I've always despised them, even back in the 90s. I could never stand Liam's whiny, droning voice either. They've always come across as thuggish and arrogant. Liam in particular has always come over as thick. The kind of people I wouldn't want anywhere me in real life. They've boasted about being thieves / about stealing lawn mowers so they could sell them and buy drugs before they got famous, which doesn't surprise me in the slightest. They're scummy fuckers. I'm far from alone when it comes to my dislike of them too. If you can't see Liam for the moron he is and that kind of mindset appeals to you, then you're probably a bit thick yourself. I recall the way Noel insulted Micheal Hutchence at the Brit awards in '96. Hutchence was clearly happy to present an award to Oasis, and they came on stage and Noel said "Has-beens should not be presenting awards to gonna-be's"... Hutchence walked off stage, and apparently that made matters worse for him when it came to his depression. All in all it was totally unjustified. Peter Kay nailed it at the 2010 brit awards after Liam threw his microphone into the crowd (see video).... link I'm also glad George Harrison slated them, considering they were a poor Beatles wannabe band. They must've hated that.What a stupid post. It is about the music, you have just been suckered by the image they have chosen to portray. As for equating what Noel said at the Brits contributing to MH's suicide... are you fucking serious? As for the shitty image. You seem to think it's ALL an act, but no. They might play it up (Liam pretends he's a hard man, but gets beaten up), but they're still scummy fuckers (particularly Liam), and it's still a shitty act regardless. There's no hiding that thug like, thick as shit mentality, no matter how much you want to excuse it as just an act. I have no reason to excuse it. Anyone with a brain in their head only has to see Liam in an interview to realise he's a fucking moron. As for what I wrote > "apparently that made matters worse for him when it came to his depression". Yes, I'm serious. Why wouldn't I be? I didn't mention his suicide, I mentioned his depression. I think we all know by now Hutchence was in a bad state of mind at that period of his life. And it's been talked about on docs (and no doubt written about too), how it hurt him and made things worse. it was a shitty thing for the Gallagher twat to do. Like I said, totally unjustified. My dislike of them has nothing to do with what's been said about Queen either. Like I say, I couldn't stand them back in the 90s. They played at the Venue in New Cross while I was there just before they made it big... Just Googled this... link It didn't cost any extra to get in that night. I used to go there almost every Friday or Saturday at that point regardless of who played. I didn't rate them back them, and I still don't now. |
Sheer Brass Neck 21.10.2017 12:53 |
mooghead wrote: What a stupid post. It is about the music, you have just been suckered by the image they have chosen to portray.I agree, but his image is one of an obnoxious twat, and his statement confirms that. If it's about the music, say what it is about the music that is true. If it's his "guitar sounds" what is it? It's too thin, his playing is repressed, it's overblown by his harmonies? He doesn't have an answer so he makes a broad statement contrived to get press. If he were a website that statement would be ridiculed as clickbait. |
Day dop 21.10.2017 13:05 |
Sheer Brass Neck wrote:How is what I said stupid, which part? I've already explained how it's not.mooghead wrote: What a stupid post. It is about the music, you have just been suckered by the image they have chosen to portray.I agree, but his image is one of an obnoxious twat, and his statement confirms that. If it's about the music, say what it is about the music that is true. If it's his "guitar sounds" what is it? It's too thin, his playing is repressed, it's overblown by his harmonies? He doesn't have an answer so he makes a broad statement contrived to get press. If he were a website that statement would be ridiculed as clickbait. |
Sheer Brass Neck 21.10.2017 15:14 |
Sorry Day dop, I was quoting for the music part for Mooghead's reply, I meant to ask Mooghead what about the music did he indicate made any sense other than offer a cheap shot at Brian. |
mooghead 21.10.2017 19:05 |
Don't understand the question. |
Sheer Brass Neck 21.10.2017 20:06 |
If you are suggesting (I may be wrong here) that Liam's comment was about the music, and I know you aren't supposed to answer this what does he mean that Brian's guitar sounds like it's clogged up his ass? There is zero validity to that statement. If he said I hate Queen, hate their guitarist, hate the way he plays I'd get it. But if it is about the music or sound then what is it? Because to me, he made another of his career long "Liam being abrasive" quotes that people and the press love to talk about, as we are here, but his statement is an opinion with no credibility. Sounds like he needed some press and slagged Brian, but it's lazy and ill informed. |
Day dop 22.10.2017 03:47 |
Sheer Brass Neck wrote: Sorry Day dop, I was quoting for the music part for Mooghead's reply, I meant to ask Mooghead what about the music did he indicate made any sense other than offer a cheap shot at Brian.Ah, a misunderstanding. No worries. |
matt z 24.10.2017 03:24 |
Day dop wrote:To be fair. ...in the Showtime George Michael documentary FREEDOM; liam comes across as an old buggered ape.mooghead wrote:What a stupid reply. I already addressed the music - I can't stand Liam's whiny, droning voice. As for the shitty image. You seem to think it's ALL an act, but no. They might play it up (Liam pretends he's a hard man, but gets beaten up), but they're still scummy fuckers (particularly Liam), and it's still a shitty act regardless. There's no hiding that thug like, thick as shit mentality, no matter how much you want to excuse it as just an act. I have no reason to excuse it. Anyone with a brain in their head only has to see Liam in an interview to realise he's a fucking moron. As for what I wrote > "apparently that made matters worse for him when it came to his depression". Yes, I'm serious. Why wouldn't I be? I didn't mention his suicide, I mentioned his depression. I think we all know by now Hutchence was in a bad state of mind at that period of his life. And it's been talked about on docs (and no doubt written about too), how it hurt him and made things worse. it was a shitty thing for the Gallagher twat to do. Like I said, totally unjustified. My dislike of them has nothing to do with what's been said about Queen either. Like I say, I couldn't stand them back in the 90s. They played at the Venue in New Cross while I was there just before they made it big... Just Googled this... link It didn't cost any extra to get in that night. I used to go there almost every Friday or Saturday at that point regardless of who played. I didn't rate them back them, and I still don't now.Day dop wrote: I've always despised them, even back in the 90s. I could never stand Liam's whiny, droning voice either. They've always come across as thuggish and arrogant. Liam in particular has always come over as thick. The kind of people I wouldn't want anywhere me in real life. They've boasted about being thieves / about stealing lawn mowers so they could sell them and buy drugs before they got famous, which doesn't surprise me in the slightest. They're scummy fuckers. I'm far from alone when it comes to my dislike of them too. If you can't see Liam for the moron he is and that kind of mindset appeals to you, then you're probably a bit thick yourself. I recall the way Noel insulted Micheal Hutchence at the Brit awards in '96. Hutchence was clearly happy to present an award to Oasis, and they came on stage and Noel said "Has-beens should not be presenting awards to gonna-be's"... Hutchence walked off stage, and apparently that made matters worse for him when it came to his depression. All in all it was totally unjustified. Peter Kay nailed it at the 2010 brit awards after Liam threw his microphone into the crowd (see video).... link I'm also glad George Harrison slated them, considering they were a poor Beatles wannabe band. They must've hated that.What a stupid post. It is about the music, you have just been suckered by the image they have chosen to portray. As for equating what Noel said at the Brits contributing to MH's suicide... are you fucking serious? I think they've consciously put him in n there for the chav scumbag generation. Though it's not evidence of cerebral intelligence, his interactions seem surprising to himself. As if he's shocked he could come up with words. Anyways. Never thought much of oasis. Living off of two albums and some exaggerated significance isn't rock and roll. It's has beening |
mike hunt 24.10.2017 04:13 |
I agree |
user1 24.10.2017 07:28 |
matt z wrote:Living off of two albums and some exaggerated significance isn't rock and roll. It's has beening..and what would you call "Queen+" or any BM/RT solo efforts after Freddie's death? Unsuccessful has beens? |
matt z 24.10.2017 08:05 |
user1 wrote:Record contract obligations.matt z wrote:Living off of two albums and some exaggerated significance isn't rock and roll. It's has beening..and what would you call "Queen+" or any BM/RT solo efforts after Freddie's death? Unsuccessful has beens? Rather than hit the tapes and dig up some gold for anthology releases they rightfully so recognize their own omnipresence and take advantage of it much to the ire and disgust of hard core fans (*5ive and Britney come to mind) But that's only their work as QUEEN + Their solo efforts have actually been pretty fantastic. I think Roger 's ELECTRIC FIRE beats out Brian's stuff but Brian has done well. (As well) I love their solo work. It's a niche they'd already made while the band was extant. Hardly throw away stuff. But yeah ..hardly groundbreaking. I still love it |
user1 24.10.2017 18:18 |
You may think these efforts are fantastic. That's ok as it is subjective. What can be stated objectively is nothing any member of Queen released after Freddie's death (apart from archival releases, MIH included) had any significant cultural relevance or achieved relevant sales. So they are basically has beens since 1991. Nevertheless, I like most of these archival releases and buy them. And Queen is my all time favourite band. However, trying to defend ex-Queen members by labelling Liam Gallagher (who just released a solo album consisting of entirely new material that gained a lot of attraction and who was part of a band in which he released seven #1 studio albums between '94 and '08 and that was the most successful act in the UK between '95 and '05) as "has been" is just ridiculous. |
Day dop 24.10.2017 20:22 |
user1 wrote:They're all successful at living off their former glory. All of them. Gallagher included.matt z wrote:Living off of two albums and some exaggerated significance isn't rock and roll. It's has beening..and what would you call "Queen+" or any BM/RT solo efforts after Freddie's death? Unsuccessful has beens? No one would give a shit about him if it wasn't for Oasis's first two albums. "exaggerated significance". True words. |
LOTV 25.10.2017 13:27 |
What I find quite interesting is how the world is now younger in outlook. Whatever you think of him Liam Gallagher doesn't come across as an old fart, the world is younger now, he's 45 but he doesn't dress like a fuddy duddy (in my opinion, as I dress quite similarly). Rock stars in their 40s no longer appear ancient. Where as sadly Freddy only made 45 and illness aside was starting to consider himself an old man in rock star terms towards the end of his 30s. As much as I love him I do have to say Fred's dress sense off stage when just kicking about was pretty bloody dire in his latter years, but I suspect he didn't give a fuck and was going for comfort. I do have a pastel yellow Fred Perry because Fred's wearing one in an interview from 82. |
matt z 25.10.2017 14:01 |
^farking ugly ass 1980's color palette. It wasn't "hip" to do the old suit n tie look. Just take a look at Duran Duran and Whitesnake from the era. Also Robert Plant. ...Mick Jagger, Bowie etc. Absolutely hideous clothing. Brian May as well.....his spandex jumpsuit onstage looked like some old ladies track suit |
Day dop 27.10.2017 10:57 |
LOTV wrote: What I find quite interesting is how the world is now younger in outlook. Whatever you think of him Liam Gallagher doesn't come across as an old fart, the world is younger now, he's 45 but he doesn't dress like a fuddy duddy (in my opinion, as I dress quite similarly). Rock stars in their 40s no longer appear ancient. Where as sadly Freddy only made 45 and illness aside was starting to consider himself an old man in rock star terms towards the end of his 30s. As much as I love him I do have to say Fred's dress sense off stage when just kicking about was pretty bloody dire in his latter years, but I suspect he didn't give a fuck and was going for comfort. I do have a pastel yellow Fred Perry because Fred's wearing one in an interview from 82.He probably doesn't appear accent to you as you're getting older yourself. I don't think there's any getting around it - Gallagher is a product of the 90s and seems to be stuck there. He looks like an old bloke (he seems to have aged a lot in the last few years) having a midlife crises, unable to get past the 90s, what with the way he dresses and that hair do. He acts like a stroppy teenager too, which is a bit cringe worthy in your mid 40s. |