| pittrek 23.09.2017 13:23 |
Queen Empire Theatre, Liverpool, UK December 6, 1979 Lineage : AUD > ? > MC > WAV > Cool Edit Pro > increasing volume on left channel, hiss reduction on left channel, clip restoration, speed correction, track splitting > WAV > Trader's Little Helper > FLAC level 8 with SBE correction > WinAmp > tagging > FLAC This recording has been shared by RabinMurryEC on Queenzone in September 2017 with a small number of people. He claimed he received it labelled as "Blackpool 79", however no concertography, official or unofficial has such a concert listed, but after a small collective detective work this recording seems to come from the first Liverpool night from the Crazy Tour. The recording is a very high generation copy, the audio quality is pretty bad unfortunately. The left channel had barely any sound information, and after increasing the volume the amount of background hiss became unbearable. For some reason the speed was too fast, and the strange thing is that the speedup was constant, almost like it wasn't caused by a tape running in an incorrect speed. Has it been done intentionally by someone down the line to fit the recording to 1 CD? Because after slowing it down digitally the recording has 21 seconds more than a CD allows. Anyway, I opened the wav file provided by RabinMurryEC, increased the volume on both channels, but mostly on the left (something like 40 dB if I remmeber correctly) and ran it through the clip restoration plugin. Because of the insane amount of hiss uncovered by these changes I had to reduce it a bit, unfortunately this recording doesn't contain a section which contains ONLY the hiss, so I had to use the standard presets. I used the softest hiss reduction, because all higher settings damaged the audio too much. The final file was slowed down to 104% of the original speed, that was just a guess, so I was pleasantly surprised when I found out that even the taped section of Bohemian Rhapsody seems to play now in the correct speed. I am sorry if the speed is not 100% correct, I've done it always just by ear and it does sound good to me. Then I split the file, and ran the small wav files through Trader's Little Helper, which encoded them to FLAC and automatically corrected all SBEs. The file tagging was done in WinAmp, which really whips the llama's ass, even in 2017. Please note that almost all of the speeches between songs are cut, and some of the songs are cut too. Tracklist CD 1 01. We Will Rock You (cut) [02:50] 02. Let Me Entertain You [02:50] 03. Somebody To Love [06:24] 04. Mustapha [01:58] 05. The Millionaire Waltz (intro only) [00:34] 06. Death on Two Legs [03:07] 07. Killer Queen [01:56] 08. I'm In Love With My Car [02:01] 09. Get Down, Make Love (cut) [04:52] 10. You're My Best Friend [02:03] 11. Save Me [04:10] 12. Now I'm Here (cut) [07:49] 13. Don't Stop Me Now [04:32] 14. Spread Your Wings [05:11] 15. Love of My Life [04:03] CD 2 01. '39 [03:34] 02. Fat Bottomed Girls [03:59] 03. Keep Yourself Alive / Drum Solo / Guitar Solo / Brighton Rock [09:59] 04. Crazy Little Thing Called Love (cut) [03:11] 05. Bohemian Rhapsody [04:48] Enjoy and convert to mp3 only for your personal use. link |
| Barry Durex 23.09.2017 13:46 |
I thanked in the deleted thread, so I'll say thanks again here. |
| pittrek 23.09.2017 13:59 |
BTW if somebody will want the untouched file let me know |
| tcc 23.09.2017 14:17 |
Thank you |
| onedunpark 23.09.2017 15:56 |
Thank you. |
| Batman04 23.09.2017 17:09 |
Thank You |
| softcalavera2 23.09.2017 18:07 |
Thank you! please a torrent? or another server? i cant download from Mega, it has a limit. |
| akan 23.09.2017 19:55 |
thank you |
| Nick Browning 23.09.2017 21:14 |
Thank You |
| tcc 23.09.2017 21:53 |
Here is a torrent for those who need it: |
| Jimmy Dean 24.09.2017 01:45 |
thanks |
| QSMJohn 24.09.2017 09:15 |
Thank you, pittrek! :) |
| scallyuk 24.09.2017 09:29 |
Thank you. was at this gig ( and the next night where Mull of Kintyre was played) I believe Jim Jenkins has a copy of both nights night "somewhere" in his collection. I know the second night was recorded by someone because the guy behind me on the bus home was playing his cassette copy. . Probably Mono and almost definitely hissy. At the time the local bootleggers Scouse Pie Tapes were very active but as far as I know it never made it out on their label. Neil |
| Barry Durex 24.09.2017 11:07 |
Nice info, thanks. |
| Nitroboy 24.09.2017 13:31 |
softcalavera2 wrote: Thank you! please a torrent? or another server? i cant download from Mega, it has a limit.This doesn't exceed the bandwidth limit |
| vivaqueen 24.09.2017 14:58 |
MERCI BEAUCOUP |
| Krypto_98 24.09.2017 16:12 |
scallyuk wrote: Thank you. was at this gig ( and the next night where Mull of Kintyre was played) I believe Jim Jenkins has a copy of both nights night "somewhere" in his collection. I know the second night was recorded by someone because the guy behind me on the bus home was playing his cassette copy. . Probably Mono and almost definitely hissy. At the time the local bootleggers Scouse Pie Tapes were very active but as far as I know it never made it out on their label. NeilHopefully one day they see the light of day! |
| Chopin1995 24.09.2017 18:43 |
scallyuk wrote: Thank you. was at this gig ( and the next night where Mull of Kintyre was played) I believe Jim Jenkins has a copy of both nights night "somewhere" in his collection. I know the second night was recorded by someone because the guy behind me on the bus home was playing his cassette copy. . Probably Mono and almost definitely hissy. At the time the local bootleggers Scouse Pie Tapes were very active but as far as I know it never made it out on their label. NeilGreat news! Could you share some more memories from the 2nd night? It's always fascinating to read fans memories from Queen concerts! And Thank you Pittrek for remastered version!!! |
| Unniendo 24.09.2017 23:36 |
Thanks for share, pittrek! |
| Thistle 25.09.2017 01:45 |
I used to trade with fella called Joe many moons ago. He used to give me a couple of cassettes to copy in exchange for some of the studio demos I had at the time (stuff you can easily find for free these days), or 2 cassette shows for every one on CD I gave him. I got rid of many several years ago because the quality was crap and I had started finding stuff freely here, and some were lost in a house move. I wish I had held on to them, and my old lists, because I am certain there was a Liverpool '79 cassette - slightly better than this one (albeit still not great quality). I'm also sure it didn't stop at Bo Rhap! I've missed the deleted thread so not sure what has been discussed concerning this show....it definitely is out there in better quality and with more tracks, yes? Or is memory letting me down? The problem with me is that I didn't always appreciate what I had and didn't realise how important some shows were (or how important it was to document them), regardless of quality. I'm guessing if I had one in better shape, there's even better out there. |
| scallyuk 25.09.2017 02:20 |
Scouse Pie were among the first to trade oxford openly it was almost a mythical bootleg at the time - (70-80) as was Night at the Warehouse. as far as the 2nd night was concerned. It was basically the same set list as night 1. Mull of Kintyre was thrown in just before LOML as I remember. basically Brian just strummed the riff a few times and the crowd sang along. I don't recall Freddie singing any of it. Might be a trick of the mind but I have a vague recollection of a few bars of If you can't beat em being thrown in though the whole song definitely wasn't played. I know I had some colour photos of the gig which my mate managed to take in between dodging the bouncers. Freddie in red pvc trousers with kneepads, a couple of close ups of brian. wonder if he still has them . Will do some checking. Neil |
| The Real Wizard 25.09.2017 04:39 |
scallyuk wrote: I know I had some colour photos of the gig which my mate managed to take in between dodging the bouncers. Freddie in red pvc trousers with kneepads, a couple of close ups of brian. wonder if he still has them . Will do some checking.That'd be fab. Keep us posted ! |
| Ale_Pisa 25.09.2017 19:58 |
Thank you! Great work as always! |
| Double-U 28.09.2017 11:44 |
Wow, this sounds much better then the original share. Thank you very much Pittrek four your time and work. With all these speeches cut out how do we know it's Liverpool actually? Kind regards, W. |
| Barry Durex 28.09.2017 12:29 |
Double-U wrote: Wow, this sounds much better then the original share. Thank you very much Pittrek four your time and work. With all these speeches cut out how do we know it's Liverpool actually? Kind regards, W.A good question, perhaps pittrek can go into more detail about the small collective detective work he mentions in the opening post? |
| Thistle 29.09.2017 19:01 |
Having listened through this, it sounds like it's been recorded by a phone whilst the master (or low gen copy) played through speakers. It also sounds like speech has been deliberately cut. The only thing is...who and why? I'm confident there's a better version out there, and I'm not convinced the taper would only tape up to Bo Rhap. That said, thanks to all who have worked on this version :) |
| The Real Wizard 29.09.2017 19:16 |
Thistleboy1980 wrote: I'm not convinced the taper would only tape up to Bo Rhap.It's entirely possible. Plenty of tapers only brought 60 or 90 minute tapes to shows. Blank tapes were very expensive back then - usually about 3x the cost of your ticket. |
| pittrek 29.09.2017 19:52 |
Barry Durex wrote:There's not really much to tell here. Several people I trust claim it's Liverpool, so I wrote that it's probably Liverpool.Double-U wrote: Wow, this sounds much better then the original share. Thank you very much Pittrek four your time and work. With all these speeches cut out how do we know it's Liverpool actually? Kind regards, W.A good question, perhaps pittrek can go into more detail about the small collective detective work he mentions in the opening post? |
| bootLuca 29.09.2017 19:53 |
there's a 23 tracks version on dime: link |
| pittrek 29.09.2017 19:56 |
Thistleboy1980 wrote: Having listened through this, it sounds like it's been recorded by a phone whilst the master (or low gen copy) played through speakers. It also sounds like speech has been deliberately cut. The only thing is...who and why? I'm confident there's a better version out there, and I'm not convinced the taper would only tape up to Bo Rhap. That said, thanks to all who have worked on this version :)I think the speeches are cut deliberately and I think that the speed was sped up deliberately too. Why? It could be just for the possibility of fitting the whole recording on 1 CD. Because usually I do a track by track speed correction, in this case I have slowed it down by 4% and the speed seems to be constantly correct. |
| Thistle 29.09.2017 20:29 |
The Real Wizard wrote:It's possible, of course - I'm just not convinced, and that's largely because of the audio quality which just doesn't sound natural, even for a poor audience recording. There has been some editing - maybe from the taper to save space on the tape - but I think it's deliberate.Thistleboy1980 wrote: I'm not convinced the taper would only tape up to Bo Rhap.It's entirely possible. Plenty of tapers only brought 60 or 90 minute tapes to shows. Blank tapes were very expensive back then - usually about 3x the cost of your ticket. Who would have a better quality one, with more audio, that would be enough to convince Pittrek that it was, indeed, Liverpool? After all, if there's nothing to suggest it is Liverpool, how would anyone else know for sure? |
| bootLuca 29.09.2017 20:55 |
Thistleboy1980 wrote: Who would have a better quality one, with more audio, that would be enough to convince Pittrek that it was, indeed, Liverpool? After all, if there's nothing to suggest it is Liverpool, how would anyone else know for sure?link 103' 40" in better quality |
| Thistle 29.09.2017 21:31 |
Thanks! |
| onedunpark 29.09.2017 21:45 |
Thanks for the heads up Luca. |
| Nitroboy 29.09.2017 21:48 |
bootLuca wrote:So this version shared on Queenzone was degraded and cut on purposeThistleboy1980 wrote: Who would have a better quality one, with more audio, that would be enough to convince Pittrek that it was, indeed, Liverpool? After all, if there's nothing to suggest it is Liverpool, how would anyone else know for sure?link 103' 40" in better quality |
| Thistle 29.09.2017 22:35 |
^ that's exactly how it looks. Unfortunately, it also looks like I can't download from Dime...something about rank. I don't have anything I can share (well, nothing that isn't already out) so how do you improve rank? For now, it will need to be this version ;) |
| little foetus 29.09.2017 22:55 |
Your ratio is maybe too low? |
| The Real Wizard 29.09.2017 23:24 |
Thistleboy1980 wrote: ^ that's exactly how it looks. Unfortunately, it also looks like I can't download from Dime...something about rank. I don't have anything I can share (well, nothing that isn't already out) so how do you improve rank? For now, it will need to be this version ;)When you first join they give you enough ratio to play with. And ideally you should seed a few torrents after you've downloaded them, and you'll be in good shape. |
| tcc 30.09.2017 00:39 |
Here is a torrent for the file shared in Dime: I created the torrent in utorrent using the same file. I hope it works. |
| The Real Wizard 30.09.2017 04:16 |
Nitroboy wrote:Nope - 100% not true.bootLuca wrote:So this version shared on Queenzone was degraded and cut on purposeThistleboy1980 wrote: Who would have a better quality one, with more audio, that would be enough to convince Pittrek that it was, indeed, Liverpool? After all, if there's nothing to suggest it is Liverpool, how would anyone else know for sure?link 103' 40" in better quality The person who shared that recording did it with the best of intentions. I was there every step of the way. It's also a completely different tape transfer from the one on Dime. |
| pmatsynot 30.09.2017 10:22 |
Thanks TCC for the torrent and also to the original sharer. |
| Thistle 30.09.2017 23:06 |
Thanks all for the advice regarding Dime ratios, and to TCC for providing a torrent here. Much appreciated :) |
| tassilo 01.10.2017 09:15 |
Thank you very much. |