QueenZone discussion #1484990

Secretfantasy wrote: My thoughts also. Cd2 from youtube got the rest. Even if the just had a 2Cd version but no you have to buy the boxset....

Day dop wrote: CD2 is what should've come as a bonus CD on the 2011 deluxe edition. And the all analogue vinyl is what the 2015 vinyl should've been, instead of getting the 2011 remaster on vinyl.

Golden Salmon wrote: CD2 is interesting, the documentary is probably worth our time but everything else is pointless filler for the hardcore fans. Somehow I think this is a product for new audiences rather than us. And while CD2 is the star of the set, it doesn't make me very hopeful at all for an eventual Queen Anthology. Is that all there is from the NOTW sessions, really? No more unreleased demos or experimental outtakes?

The Real Wizard wrote:

Day dop wrote: CD2 is what should've come as a bonus CD on the 2011 deluxe edition. And the all analogue vinyl is what the 2015 vinyl should've been, instead of getting the 2011 remaster on vinyl.

Both correct statements. Still, this box set is a step in the right direction. This is probably the most we can ever expect to get from a Queen product - 3 of the 5 discs will be interesting for most hardcore fans.

pittrek wrote: The sad thing is that Brian is probably very proud of the fantastic work they have done :-(

cmsdrums wrote: We Will Rock You backing track....so, pretty much a couple of minute of foot stamps and handclaps and nothing else??

cmsdrums wrote: We Will Rock You backing track....so, pretty much a couple of minute of foot stamps and handclaps and nothing else??

The Real Wizard wrote: The only thing that baffles me is why they won't release the uncut concerts. 1977 shows are already on youtube, in much worse quality. Why the hell not release the full shows, to replace the already existing crappy quality stuff, since they say they're all about quality?

OwenSmith wrote: I bought the deluxe editions of releases for the last three years. But this one I am really struggling to justify. As someone else said, where is the Blu Ray? This stuff was shot on film, it can be released in 1080p at high bit rate. Reducing that to DVD video is an insult.

brians wig wrote:

OwenSmith wrote: I bought the deluxe editions of releases for the last three years. But this one I am really struggling to justify. As someone else said, where is the Blu Ray? This stuff was shot on film, it can be released in 1080p at high bit rate. Reducing that to DVD video is an insult.

Is it possible that they don't actualy have the film elements? Bob Harris worked for the BBC. Was the original documentary commissioned by the BBC? If so, it's entirely possible that the film was transferred to PAL 2" and then junked. That would explain a DVD release, although it's shame it's not an upscaled Bluray like the last two releases, though I guess if they'd done that we'd have lost one of the other discs (Disc two most likely LOL), to make way!

brians wig wrote:

OwenSmith wrote: I bought the deluxe editions of releases for the last three years. But this one I am really struggling to justify. As someone else said, where is the Blu Ray? This stuff was shot on film, it can be released in 1080p at high bit rate. Reducing that to DVD video is an insult.

Is it possible that they don't actualy have the film elements? Bob Harris worked for the BBC. Was the original documentary commissioned by the BBC? If so, it's entirely possible that the film was transferred to PAL 2" and then junked. That would explain a DVD release, although it's shame it's not an upscaled Bluray like the last two releases, though I guess if they'd done that we'd have lost one of the other discs (Disc two most likely LOL), to make way!

fr1986 wrote: Still can't believe they have totally wiped Houston 1977 from their memories. Not 1 Fucking CD containing a live concert, incredible. Every year the QPL make a great effort to surpass themselves in terms of shitty releases, and in the last couple of years they've managed to do it flawlessly. God Bless the Torrents!

brians wig wrote: What's with "Sleeping On The Sidewalk" Live on D2? Do they not have ANY studio takes of that song?????

Rick wrote: This is exactly why my love for Queen has pretty much died. Rainbow was stellar. This is utter shite.

The Real Wizard wrote:

brians wig wrote: What's with "Sleeping On The Sidewalk" Live on D2? Do they not have ANY studio takes of that song?????

Of course they do. But after decades of telling the story about how the first take was special - when the reality is that the song is actually a compilation of various takes - why destroy that mystique ? So instead we get a live version. They know exactly what they're doing.

August R. wrote: Wohoo!! Disc2 seems better than i dared to wish! Very interesting stuff there! This is what I've been waiting for a long while: Freddie singing All Dead... Sleeping on the Sidewalk (live)!!!!, aternative takes and demos. The document should be interesting to see as well. The last four years or so have been good times to be a Queen fan.

15. My Melancholy Blues (Live in Houston 1977) 3:48

fr1986 wrote: Still can't believe the have totally wiped Houston 1977 from their memories. Not 1 Fucking CD containing a live concert, incredible. Every year the QPL make a great effort to surpass themselves in terms of shitty releases, and in the last couple of years they've managed to do it flawlessly. God Bless the Torrents!

philip storey wrote: Its now £95 from Amazon,if you like whats on offer pre order.If you don't like it please don't turn your nose up like you have just stood in a pile of dog shit.

matt z wrote: (*should issue as BOTH considering this is an expensive SET: this sort of replication isn't expensive to production).

rocknrolllover wrote: Correct me if I’m wrong. RAW sessions disc contains songs without cuts?

BobbytheCat wrote: According to Amazon many customers are pleased with their purchase and have been telling so in their reviews since before the pre-order has been available. Incredible! link

Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira wrote: I am really looking forward to this set! Come on, unheard Freddie vocals? Brian unreleased guitars from 1977? Sleeping on the Sidewalk Live?! Roger's demo?! The documentary is also more than welcome, even if way too short. Of course the rest doesn't appeal to most of us, but when you think the set is expensive, think of us Brazilians paying a 3.2 exchange rate plus around 100% extra on import taxes. I am certainly not complaining, anyway. In fact, I wish they would do the same to as many albums as they can. Bring it on!!! Cheers, Ogre-

brians wig wrote: I'd love to know what thought process goes on in the heads of the people who put these sets together and then, ultimately, what's going on in the head(s) of the person/people who make the final decision. For the Beatle's Sgt pepper box, they were thinking "50 years of Sgt Pepper. Want to produce a good package that's value for money. We issued remasters in 2009 so we MUST provide something different. Ok. Let's remix the entire album from scratch utilising the pre-bounce multitracks to make it sound better than ever but still keep the die hard fans happy by making sure it sounds like it always has, but in stereo. Whilst we are at it we may as well create a surround sound mix as well since the format is obviously still alive and enjoyed by many, which we will include on the DVD/Bluray along with an hour long documentary on the making of the album and the relevant promo videos. Let's also add TWO CDs worth of outtakes/demos which, for the majority, have two or more different takes to show the progression of the song. Sure, we will also include a remastered mono version of the original album for those who haven't heard the mono version and we will include some hard to find overseas single versions to fill it up. Add a few superfluous extras and an AMAZING 145 page book packed with photos and detailed text on the album, add a lovely 3D lenticular print of the album cover to the slipsleeve and I think that should justify the £100 price tag these type of sets seem to command. Oh, we're selling it through Universal records...." Now compare that to the NOTW boxset....

Viper wrote: Hopefully, Houston '77 show will have a proper release some day. This may be the reason why it doesn't get, almost, any mention on the NOTW box.

The Real Wizard wrote:

Rick wrote: This is exactly why my love for Queen has pretty much died. Rainbow was stellar. This is utter shite.

I'd say this seems about on par. They both had roughly an hour of unheard material. And while there's a ton of live stuff out there, there aren't a lot of studio outtakes from 1977. Sure, there's a lot of superfluous stuff here - but focus on the good. There's a lot of it.

Kuijpy wrote: I think Freddie would be ashamed if he see/hear this... After his dead only a few things were crazy, Made in Heaven, Rainbow Box, Wembley Box, but the rest...... nothing new, oh wait.. The Freddie Mercury Boxset and Let me in your heart,

Viper wrote: Hopefully, Houston '77 show will have a proper release some day. This may be the reason why it doesn't get, almost, any mention on the NOTW box.

aristide1 wrote: Brian: "We have a new vinyl mastering, which comes straight off the mix tapes as opposed to off copies of the mix tapes. So this is the most faithful reproduction of those master mixes ever." So this is the problem - vinyl mastering from copies, instead of the original mix tapes. Wow! I always thought the problem of recent vinyls is digitally fucked sound. My mistake.

fr1986 wrote:

Viper wrote: Hopefully, Houston '77 show will have a proper release some day. This may be the reason why it doesn't get, almost, any mention on the NOTW box.

Yeahh.. At this point, we are lucky if in 2027 we get a cut 50th anniversary version of the gig . Quality problems is the lamest of the excuses. Not long ago here there was a share of a "close to the offcial recording" Bootleg from Houston that sounded superb!! It's unforgivable that they release the Docu. touring the USA and completely omit the Houston Gig, unFUC..NGforgivable

aristide1 wrote: Brian: "We have a new vinyl mastering, which comes straight off the mix tapes as opposed to off copies of the mix tapes. So this is the most faithful reproduction of those master mixes ever." So this is the problem - vinyl mastering from copies, instead of the original mix tapes. Wow! I always thought the problem of recent vinyls is digitally fucked sound. My mistake.

Barry Durex wrote:

aristide1 wrote: Brian: "We have a new vinyl mastering, which comes straight off the mix tapes as opposed to off copies of the mix tapes. So this is the most faithful reproduction of those master mixes ever." So this is the problem - vinyl mastering from copies, instead of the original mix tapes. Wow! I always thought the problem of recent vinyls is digitally fucked sound. My mistake.

I'm confused, so the vinyl release from 1977 was from copies of the mix tapes and the vinyl in the box set is from the masters?

Golden Salmon wrote: ^Give me a 20-30 euro edition featuring 2-3 CDs with the main stuff and I may be interested. Otherwise, I'm keeping my money.

Holly2003 wrote: It probably just means they adjusted the volume so all the tracks on that CD are of similar volume. Remastering can mean virtually anything and it's sometimes used to make it seem like the product offers something new.

inu-liger wrote: Interesting, so "It's Late" Single Version was remastered in 2011? I guess it was a serious contender for the Bonus EP then :)

Queenman!! wrote: link Looks great footage.... but no digital restoration?? colour allignment, vertical lines etc?? Chief Mouse...please apply for a job at these amateurs

bootLuca wrote: Disco: 4 1. Feelings, Feelings (Take 10 / July 1977 / Remastered 2017) 2. We Will Rock You (BBC Session / October 28th 1977, Maida Vale 4 Studio / With DJ Chatter) 3. We Will Rock You (Fast) (BBC Session / October 28th 1977, Maida Vale 4 Studio / With DJ Chatter / 2017 Version) 4. Spread Your Wings (BBC Session / October 28th 1977, Maida Vale 4 Studio / With DJ Chatter / 2017 Version) 5. It's Late (BBC Session / October 28th 1977, Maida Vale 4 Studio / With DJ Chatter / 2017 Version) 6. My Melancholy Blues (BBC Session / October 28th 1977, Maida Vale 4 Studio / With DJ Chatter) 7. We Will Rock You (Remastered 2017 / Backing Track) 8. We Are The Champions (Remastered 2017 / Backing Track) 9. Spread Your Wings (Remastered 2017 / Instrumental) 10. Fight From The Inside (Remastered 2017 / Instrumental) 11. Get Down, Make Love (Remastered 2017 / Instrumental) 12. It's Late (Remastered 2011 / USA Radio Edit, 1978) 13. Sheer Heart Attack (Remastered 2017 / Live In Paris, 1979) 14. We Will Rock You (Remastered 2017 / Live In Tokyo, 1982) 15. My Melancholy Blues (Remastered 2017 / Live In Houston, Texas / 1977) 16. Get Down, Make Love (Remastered 2017 / Live At The Montreal Forum / November 1981) 17. Spread Your Wings (Remastered 2017 / Live On European Tour / 1979) 18. We Will Rock You (Remastered 2017 / Live At Milton Keynes Bowl / June 1982) 19. We Are The Champions (Remastered 2017 / Live At Milton Keynes Bowl / June 1982)

dysan wrote: Coinage. Might be put on a promo disc for radio to promote the set.