QueenZone discussion #1482104

Day dop wrote: Who follows it here? It's become like a warzone, mostly between Queen fans, and Queen+ Lambert fans. It's like deja vu. I've unfollowed it before, because I'm not a fan of Lambert and don't enjoy seeing the Queen+ Lambert stuff in my newsfeed (nothing unreasonable about that on my part, Lambert fans!). I just think the guy looks tacky, aside from not liking his voice / style. I'm not a fan in the slightest. I did re-follow again a while back, but with the new tour, I end up seeing Lambert in my newsfeed again too much. I am still interested in new releases (the News Of The World reissue as me curious), and the Queen stuff that pops up on the page, but when a Queen+ tour is on, I eventually unfollow it again until it passes. It must be easier being a Led Zeppelin or Pink Floyd fan in that sense. It'd be nice if there was a separate page for the Queen+ stuff, but then it's all about promotion, and they'll use the Queen page for that, what with it having the biggest audience. Still a bit shitty for those who don't rate Lambert. I don't think of the Queen+ Lambert stuff as Queen. Well, it isn't. It's a separate thing in my mind, something I'm not a fan of. Does anyone else feel a bit the same way here?

The Fairy King wrote: Stop whining already. It's so annoying that people like you keep pushing your "opinions' down people's throats. Especially on Facebook. Here are some of your greatest hits: Adam isn't Freddie I don't like Adam Adam is too gay (yeah, people actually said that) There's only one Freddie etc etc Get a fucking life.

Day dop wrote:

The Fairy King wrote: Stop whining already. It's so annoying that people like you keep pushing your "opinions' down people's throats. Especially on Facebook. Here are some of your greatest hits: Adam isn't Freddie I don't like Adam Adam is too gay (yeah, people actually said that) There's only one Freddie etc etc Get a fucking life.

. Amusing mini-tantrum. I understand from what you say that you take issue with folks voicing their opinion if their opinion differs from your own, but surely you ought to be able to cope with differing opinions on the internet a bit better than that by now? And no, they're not my "greatest hits", I don't comment on the Facebook Queen page. Him being gay makes no odds to me whatsoever. As for whether I like him or not, he seems like a nice enough chap. However, as an artist, his singing / performances aren't my cup of tea. I should think it's attitudes such as yours - those who want to silence differing opinion - that plays its part in others voicing their thoughts all the more.

Invisible Woman wrote: Maybe somebody will be astonished about it, but I do not have Facebook page and I have no intention of opening ,so I'm not following. As for this conflict about which Day dop say, I do not think it makes any sense. I once wrote in a some topic here.To me Quen = Freddie,John,Brian and Roger. But I understand those who like Adam or don't like him and I understand the members of the band who wanted to continue live performances. I respect everybody's opinion but I have my own: liked it to someone or not, Adam is not Freddie.That's the fact.

thomasquinn 32989 wrote: Dear Fairy King, You're being exactly as obnoxious as people who randomly start agitating against Q+AL. Please stop. You accuse people of "the sheer arrogance behind it that people(like you) think that "others" need to know their "opinion"" Guess what? That's what you're doing too.

The Fairy King wrote: It has nothing to do with "silencing differing opinions". Because, hey? What about MY right to say YOUR opinion is stupid? ;) It's the sheer arrogance behind it that people(like you) think that "others" need to know their "opinion", but essentially they're just rehashing other "opinions" they've read on social media. My so called "tantrum" comes from this fact. We get it now. Ever since Queen played with Adam for the first time during Idol we get to read all these moronic opinions. It's enough. It's also the constant barrage of filth, homophobia and ignorance that's hiding underneath (sometimes in a not so subte way i must say). You don't like his voice? Don't listen to it and don't go and see them live. Done. No need to open another thread about it.

Day dop wrote:

The Fairy King wrote: It has nothing to do with "silencing differing opinions". Because, hey? What about MY right to say YOUR opinion is stupid? ;) It's the sheer arrogance behind it that people(like you) think that "others" need to know their "opinion", but essentially they're just rehashing other "opinions" they've read on social media. My so called "tantrum" comes from this fact. We get it now. Ever since Queen played with Adam for the first time during Idol we get to read all these moronic opinions. It's enough. It's also the constant barrage of filth, homophobia and ignorance that's hiding underneath (sometimes in a not so subte way i must say). You don't like his voice? Don't listen to it and don't go and see them live. Done. No need to open another thread about it.

Except I'm not telling you to "stop" anything. Continue, by all means. I've not whined like you have that peoples opinions that I disagree with on the internet are being "pushed down peoples throats". Nor have I resorted to telling anyone to "get a life" beacause I'm oh so offended by their differing opinion I find your reaction both bizarre and quite somewhat amusing. You have every right to say that my opinion is "stupid", although that in itself is a tad ridiculous, being as music taste is subjective, and I originally followed the Facebook page as I'm a Queen fan (not a Lambert fan). And peoples opinions that differ from yours on this subject are "sheer arrogance"? How dare they! Simply because those people share their views? You're aware this faulty logic you're spewing applies to you too in that case, right? And those who you disagree with are "rehashing" others "opinions"? So, by going by that, are those you agree with rehashing opinions too? Or that only apples to those who you don't agree with? You say that your tantrum comes from that fact, but what you seem to be confusing is fact and opinion - and your opinion is based on shaky logic at that. And now you're complaining about homophobia, which has nothing to do with what I've said whatsoever. Nothing - at - all. You then go on to say "You don't like his voice? Don't listen to it and don't go and see them live. Done. No need to open another thread about it. " I don't listen to his voice anymore, nor would I go see them live again now, but thanks for your concern. As for the last bit you said, I think I'll open plenty more threads about it. :-)

anderssteen wrote: I very much agree with the topic. i am interested in anything related to the original line-up, but I couldn't care less for Q+AL. To me these are two VERY different bands with each their expression of which only one suits my taste. It would be nice to be able to unfollow just the Q+AL updates.

The Fairy King wrote: Ugh.

The Fairy King wrote: Now tell me what exactly is the point of opening a thread about this? What is it that you want to achieve?

The Fairy King wrote:

anderssteen wrote: I very much agree with the topic. i am interested in anything related to the original line-up, but I couldn't care less for Q+AL. To me these are two VERY different bands with each their expression of which only one suits my taste. It would be nice to be able to unfollow just the Q+AL updates.

You can just ignore the Q+AL updates? Not that hard.

The Fairy King wrote: Dear Casper, Really? You? Talk about hypocritical. :D Missing the point again entirely as usual? And you, the principal lefty pc police should know by now that just "ignoring" doesn't help. We know since last November that just ignoring it doesn't really help. ;) Yeah, i made it political. DISCLAIMER: My post wasn't 100% serious. Sure, the frustration is real, but unlike you i don't have the arrogance to even remotely think that i can actually change the minds of these morons. Next time pick your battles carefully and accordingly.

The Fairy King wrote:

anderssteen wrote: I very much agree with the topic. i am interested in anything related to the original line-up, but I couldn't care less for Q+AL. To me these are two VERY different bands with each their expression of which only one suits my taste. It would be nice to be able to unfollow just the Q+AL updates.

You can just ignore the Q+AL updates? Not that hard.

anderssteen wrote: It would be nice to be able to unfollow just the Q+AL updates.

Day dop wrote:

The Fairy King wrote: Ugh.

Ah yes, the cry of a bug hitting a wall.

The Fairy King wrote: Now tell me what exactly is the point of opening a thread about this? What is it that you want to achieve?

To see if others feel the same way regarding the official Queen facebook page. Y'know? Communication? Chatty chatty? This is the "general discussion" part of this form, after all. Would you rather my differing opinion was silenced? Why are you so bothered by it to the point of losing your shit? (rhetorical question).

Day dop wrote:

The Fairy King wrote:

anderssteen wrote: I very much agree with the topic. i am interested in anything related to the original line-up, but I couldn't care less for Q+AL. To me these are two VERY different bands with each their expression of which only one suits my taste. It would be nice to be able to unfollow just the Q+AL updates.

You can just ignore the Q+AL updates? Not that hard.

Perhaps anderssteen doesn't want to see Lambert in his newsfeed to that degree in the first place to have to "ignore"? Plus, "ignore" is a tad rich coming from you, what with your bizarre behaviour on this thread. Surely taking your own advice might be the thing to do being as you don't cope well with differing opinion? Not that I mind. Carry on by all means.

Day dop wrote:

The Fairy King wrote: Dear Casper, Really? You? Talk about hypocritical. :D Missing the point again entirely as usual? And you, the principal lefty pc police should know by now that just "ignoring" doesn't help. We know since last November that just ignoring it doesn't really help. ;) Yeah, i made it political. DISCLAIMER: My post wasn't 100% serious. Sure, the frustration is real, but unlike you i don't have the arrogance to even remotely think that i can actually change the minds of these morons. Next time pick your battles carefully and accordingly.

So what are you saying? That anyone who doesn't rate XYZ shouldn't voice their opinion? - Not if the point has been made a million times, with better arguments and no new points are being made. It has been discussed to death for the last 5 years. - And if they do, you'll behave in an obnoxious manner as you have done? - Ah you learned a new word. Good for you - You say "ignoring it doesn't help" and apparently you're making it political. So where are you going there? That you're comparing a subjective opinion on music to what happened in politics in 2016? - Now you're just being petty.- What next? Queen fans are Nazis? Let's punch the bastards! -Where did i say that? Bit farfetched.- It seems you want people to be either nodding in agreement with you, or to be silent. -Nope, i just want them to think before they post and post something new. Everyone can be a critic, you're just acting like a baby.- And you think someone's a "moron", just because they don't share the same opinion (on something of a subjective nature) as you? -Already explained- Why should anyone have their minds changed for not agreeing with you on something subjective anyway? -Another one of your rhetorical questions?- "Morons" you say? The irony... -Just being passive agressive i guess.- And "Next time pick your battles carefully and accordingly."? From where I'm standing, you're not in the best position to be dishing advice out on picking battles, being as your faulty logic has failed you all along and you've completely missed the points that have been made against your ill thought out arguments. -Hypocritical statement and you know why ;)-

Invisible Woman wrote: The Fairy King, Of course I'm not Freddie. I'm not Madonna,Lady Gaga or Sia also.LOL I said that I respect everybody's opinion and I expect that my opinion to be respected. But my personal right is that I prefer to listen Freddie from CD and watch his live performances on You Tube.And I do not care if anyone tells me I'm stupid or old fashioned. As can be seen from my posts, I have nothing against Adam. I just say that Queen and Queen +Adam Lambert can not be the same thing. And who prefer what, that's another matter. Everyone has the right to love one thing or the other.Or both, why not. To me Queen= Freddie,John,Brian,Roger. I think so and that is it.

The Fairy King wrote:

Day dop wrote:

The Fairy King wrote: Ugh.

Ah yes, the cry of a bug hitting a wall.

The Fairy King wrote: Now tell me what exactly is the point of opening a thread about this? What is it that you want to achieve?

To see if others feel the same way regarding the official Queen facebook page. Y'know? Communication? Chatty chatty? This is the "general discussion" part of this form, after all. Would you rather my differing opinion was silenced? Why are you so bothered by it to the point of losing your shit? (rhetorical question).

Were all your questions rhetorical? Do you know what rhetorical means?

Day dop wrote: Continued... I wrote "And you think someone's a "moron", just because they don't share the same opinion (on something of a subjective nature) as you?" You wrote "Already explained." Meaningless reply from you. I'll drive this point home once again: You do understand that people have the right to their opinion, yes? And just because you disagree with it, that doesn't give you the right to spit your dummy behave in an shitty manner without being called out on it. This is really simple stuff. Why you can't grasp it, I don't know. I wrote "Why should anyone have their minds changed for not agreeing with you on something subjective anyway?" You replied "Another one of your rhetorical questions?" Attempt to answer it. Go on. :-) I wrote ""Morons" you say? The irony..." You replied "Just being passive agressive i guess." You are? Or are you accusing me of being passive aggressive? I can assure you I'm not. I have no issue confronting your poorly thought out bullshit arguments and dummy spitting tactics I wrote And "Next time pick your battles carefully and accordingly."? From where I'm standing, you're not in the best position to be dishing advice out on picking battles, being as your faulty logic has failed you all along and you've completely missed the points that have been made against your ill thought out arguments." You replied "Hypocritical statement and you know why ;)" You're not grasping this at all, are you? You're losing your plot to the point of name calling behaving in an obnoxious manner over other peoples opinion on music / performances. I'm not. I'm pointing out how fucking ridiculous your behaviour is. You wrote "Let's agree to disagree. :D" Nope. Beacuse "agreeing to disagree" suggests your opinion on this matter carries as much weight as those who you're disagreeing with. Simply put, it doesn't. That cop out phrase won't work here. You don't get to throw tantrums, throw strops, and behave in an abhorrent manner because someone has a difference of opinion that you don't like, without your shitty behaviour being called out. Simply put: I won't put up with your crap. Comprehendo?

The Fairy King wrote: Almost unreadable with all the grammar and spelling mistakes. English can't be your "mother tongue". :') Comprehendo? Now you're making up words? Damn i really pissed you off. Holy sheep! Twas a good day. Thanks.

Day dop wrote:

The Fairy King wrote: Almost unreadable with all the grammar and spelling mistakes. English can't be your "mother tongue". :') Comprehendo? Now you're making up words? Damn i really pissed you off. Holy sheep! Twas a good day. Thanks.

Almost unreadable if you're a dunce, perhaps. I think you'll find my English and grammar is perfectly fine (I noticed one place where I didn't end a sentence with a full stop, something you've done yourself, although my overall command of English is certainly a notch up from yours.I noticed your poor grammar and spelling as I went along. I made a typo. Big deal). Here's another link for you. I suggest you read it and comprehend your poor tactics here. link Oh, you're not familiar with "comprehendo"? "(figuratively) I comprehend something by the mind, understand, perceive, grasp, comprehend." link See? You're learning a thing or two (or you could do, if you took in information). Pissed off? Hardly. This is too easy for me. It's becoming more and more apparent you're rather clueless when it comes to formulating arguments that hold up, which suggests to me you're projecting how you feel. I'm not surprised you didn't attempt to answer the question on why you think people should have their minds changed. Let's try again. You'll probably avoid and / or deflect (yet again). You're quite predictable, although I'll give you the benefit of the doubt by putting it to you again... Why should anyone have their minds changed for not agreeing with you on something subjective?

The Fairy King wrote: Snap out of it. Not everyone has to respect your opinion. That's one the biggest lies you people tell yourselves. Nobody says you don't have the right to listen to whatever you want. I never claimed you should do otherwise. Nobody said you're old-fashioned. If people really value peoples opinions and they respect them for having them. Then why don't you respect Brian and Roger's opinion to tour with Adam, post whatever they want on social media? Or is this a one way street? Don't you think that these artists know what they're doing? They worked with Freddie for 20 years. Don't you think they know what's best for their brand? For the record, i never said you don't have the right to hate Adam, to crap on Q+AL or criticize whoever. Just be aware that whatever words you put out there are open for debate. And if so many people are posting the same shit, then why still do it?

The Fairy King wrote:

Day dop wrote:

The Fairy King wrote: Almost unreadable with all the grammar and spelling mistakes. English can't be your "mother tongue". :') Comprehendo? Now you're making up words? Damn i really pissed you off. Holy sheep! Twas a good day. Thanks.

Almost unreadable if you're a dunce, perhaps. I think you'll find my English and grammar is perfectly fine (I noticed one place where I didn't end a sentence with a full stop, something you've done yourself, although my overall command of English is certainly a notch up from yours.I noticed your poor grammar and spelling as I went along. I made a typo. Big deal). Here's another link for you. I suggest you read it and comprehend your poor tactics here. link Oh, you're not familiar with "comprehendo"? "(figuratively) I comprehend something by the mind, understand, perceive, grasp, comprehend." link See? You're learning a thing or two (or you could do, if you took in information). Pissed off? Hardly. This is too easy for me. It's becoming more and more apparent you're rather clueless when it comes to formulating arguments that hold up, which suggests to me you're projecting how you feel. I'm not surprised you didn't attempt to answer the question on why you think people should have their minds changed. Let's try again. You'll probably avoid and / or deflect (yet again). You're quite predictable, although I'll give you the benefit of the doubt by putting it to you again... Why should anyone have their minds changed for not agreeing with you on something subjective?

You're still going on? Why can't you admit defeat? Move on.

Invisible Woman wrote: First of all, I do not hate anyone. I didn't say anything bad about Brian and Roger.I said I understand that they wanted to continue with their work and live performances with other singers. First was Paul Rodgers,now is Adam. Whoever chosen for the singer I think that it was not the same as the original band with Freddie and John. I see that this kind of opinion is making you nervous but I don't why. When I mentioned "stupid" and "old fashioned" I didn't say you said that to me, I said it hypothetically. OK, everyone hasn't to respect my opinion.I don't think my opinion is more important and I'm not angry when someone thinks differently. It's true that I repeated some sentences several times. But you did it too. If I have repeated too many times the same thing I apologize but I don't think that I did something so bad by repeating my words. I hope I have now explained more clearly if something was not clear. I said what I had, as far as I'm concerned, that's it.

The Fairy King wrote:

thomasquinn 32989 wrote: Dear Fairy King, You're being exactly as obnoxious as people who randomly start agitating against Q+AL. Please stop. You accuse people of "the sheer arrogance behind it that people(like you) think that "others" need to know their "opinion"" Guess what? That's what you're doing too.

Dear Casper, Really? You? Talk about hypocritical. :D Missing the point again entirely as usual? And you, the principal lefty pc police should know by now that just "ignoring" doesn't help. We know since last November that just ignoring it doesn't really help. ;) Yeah, i made it political. DISCLAIMER: My post wasn't 100% serious. Sure, the frustration is real, but unlike you i don't have the arrogance to even remotely think that i can actually change the minds of these morons. Next time pick your battles carefully and accordingly.