| Vocal harmony 16.07.2017 10:46 |
Which albums production has dated the best, forgetting song writing/musical styles? I think Mack's work on the game has stood up well because it's a clean uncluttered sound. My favourite production is on ADATR and NOTW Queen/Mike Stone. |
| Oscar J 16.07.2017 10:55 |
ADATR is great indeed. NOTW too in places, although it gets muddy in places (SHA for example). The Game is probably the most Hi-Fi of them all, but I'm not sure that's the Queen sound I love most. In general I think Queen's music wasn't as well produced as that of its peers. |
| dysan 16.07.2017 11:09 |
What the actual fuck |
| Pim Derks 16.07.2017 11:10 |
Made In Heaven sounds awesome to me. |
| ploughman 16.07.2017 13:04 |
That would be A Night At The Opera and A Day at The Races (both with Mike Stone doing the engineering) from the 1970s and The Miracle (David Richards) from the 1980s. The first ones are really good for their time, when talking about soundscape. The Miracle however might not have the best song collection but the production qualities are superb. It was still done with the analog tape and David combined the programmed computer world with the live backing tracks amazingly. Also the sound is clear, fat and bright. |
| luthorn 16.07.2017 13:53 |
I would go with the early stuff: Queen, Queen 2, Sheer Heart Attack and then the Works. I find on vinyl, Sheer Heart Attack and the Works are the best sounding albums. I find that many of their albums of the 1980s have a very muzzled sound, where the guitar comes through as if it was watered down and sounding from behind the wall. |
| N0_Camping4U 16.07.2017 14:23 |
The Works. |
| mooghead 16.07.2017 14:39 |
N0_Camping4U wrote: The Works.**** Another dickhead alert **** |
| Oscar J 16.07.2017 15:08 |
ploughman wrote: That would be A Night At The Opera and A Day at The Races (both with Mike Stone doing the engineering) from the 1970s and The Miracle (David Richards) from the 1980s. The first ones are really good for their time, when talking about soundscape. The Miracle however might not have the best song collection but the production qualities are superb. It was still done with the analog tape and David combined the programmed computer world with the live backing tracks amazingly. Also the sound is clear, fat and bright.The drum sound is really weird on The Miracle though. It's like a weird, gated mix between a drum machine and real drums. WIAWI and Khashoggi's Ship are exceptions. |
| Jimmy Dean 16.07.2017 20:53 |
i've always liked News of the World, The Game, Hot Space as well as Made In Heaven for production. least goes to Jazz and The Works. ones they should remix would go to Jazz and Innuendo. And as I've said in the past - change the track listing of Jazz, drop Fun It and More Of That Jazz to make a much better album. |
| mike hunt 16.07.2017 20:57 |
Most of their albums could of used better production. I love the first Record, but we could all agree that the production is weak for obvious reasons, as most bands first Records. Queen 2, one of my all time favorites is a bit muddy in places. SHA is much better produced, and they peaked on ANATO and ADATR/NOTW. I think the production is really good on those albums. The Game and MIH were good as well. Innuendo and Jazz were really good Records but the production wasn't the greatest. |
| mike hunt 16.07.2017 21:03 |
Jimmy, I Agree! Drop a few of those songs and change the track listing a bit, and Improve the production and that album could of been one of their best. I still like it, but it had potential to be much better. What happened to Thomas Baker? He did a great Job on Opera, but messed up Jazz so badly. |
| Jimmy Dean 16.07.2017 21:35 |
imagine the exact same production sound as news of the world with the following tracklist... Side A 1. Fat Bottomed Girls 2. Bicycle Race 3. Let Me Entertain You 4. In Only Seven Days 5. Dreamer's Ball Side B 1. Mustapha 2. If You Can't Beat Them 3. Don't Stop Me Now 4. Leaving Home Ain't Easy 5. Dead On Time In my opinion... Mustapha as track 1 side 1 was the worst mistake. It's a great song, but not the one to set the tone for the rest of the album. It's essentially a one-off... which is why it should be left as track 1 side 2. Fun It and More of that Jazz ruined the album. Jealousy is a fantastic B-side... but doesn't work in this album. Could have replaced Who Needs You on NOTW. |
| ANAGRAMER 17.07.2017 00:52 |
When I first read the question, the answer that popped into my head was The Game Clean, crisp, no sequencers, the drums sound, Brian's in your face guitar and AOBTD should've got the Grammy |
| dysan 17.07.2017 02:28 |
You can't drop More Of That Jazz! I'd say the equal to Roger's nostalgic and regretful Drowse (OK, with less of a tune) which I hold very dear. Jealousy, Fun It and In Only Seven Days can do one. The rest of Jazz is fantastic IMO - a really strange album, and heavy AF. Maybe I'm on it's side as it's considered a 2nd tier album (maybe their first chronologically) |
| dysan 17.07.2017 02:30 |
It's worth saying that I've never agreed with pretty much all Queen album track orders, so that's academic. Mustapha as the opener is suitably WTF. |
| dive2063 17.07.2017 05:53 |
I prefer Queen II, ANATO, NOTW , The Game, Innuendo and MIH. The best of all above in terms of production for me is definitely NOTW. |
| Oscar J 17.07.2017 07:54 |
What do people think about the soundscape feel of NOTW though? I have always though it has a slightly colder feel to it. Not just rawer, but colder and more metallic somehow. |
| Rick 17.07.2017 08:02 |
Too bad guys like Trevor Horn and Alan Parsons never produced a Queen record. |
| cmsdrums 17.07.2017 10:08 |
mooghead wrote:!!!! :-)N0_Camping4U wrote: The Works.**** Another dickhead alert **** |
| Sebastian 17.07.2017 10:11 |
Rick wrote: Too bad guys like Trevor Horn and Alan Parsons never produced a Queen record.Oh, imagine what could have been! |
| people on streets 17.07.2017 15:18 |
The Game. No doubt about it. You can dislike the sound, sure, but production wise it's absolutely top notch. A Day At The Races and News Of The World are very clever as well. |
| mooghead 17.07.2017 15:48 |
Queen II. Because when you listen to it you feel that exactly what the band wanted to sound like. You forget there was a 5th person behind the desk. The best producers are the ones you can't hear... |
| N0_Camping4U 17.07.2017 18:13 |
cmsdrums wrote:Not sure how I am a dickhead for having my own opinion. Care to explain how? No? Exactly. Nice try though. I stand by my comment. Thanks (for adding nothing to the topic).mooghead wrote:!!!! :-)N0_Camping4U wrote: The Works.**** Another dickhead alert **** |
| Sebastian 17.07.2017 19:28 |
That's my least favourite Queen album, by far, but it does sound really well. |
| mike hunt 17.07.2017 20:07 |
I think The Works is ok, up and down album. I do think it's a better album than Hot Space, more ups for me than HS had. Should have taken off Tear It Up and Man On The Prowl and added Love Kills and I Go Crazy. The sound of the album is fine. |
| N0_Camping4U 18.07.2017 22:10 |
I know that nerd is reading this and is too afraid to reply. What a wuss. |
| Makka 19.07.2017 03:18 |
luthorn wrote: I would go with the early stuff: Queen, Queen 2, Sheer Heart Attack and then the Works. I find on vinyl, Sheer Heart Attack and the Works are the best sounding albums. I find that many of their albums of the 1980s have a very muzzled sound, where the guitar comes through as if it was watered down and sounding from behind the wall.I always found Queen and Queen II too muddy, when compared to other albums from that era. The drums especially. A Day At The Races would be my favourite. |
| liam 19.07.2017 08:04 |
Surely ANATO and ADATR. They are clear, beautifully produced albums, with very few muddy parts. The drums and bass sound excellent. |
| Invisible Woman 22.07.2017 03:05 |
All their albums have a good sound. I love the most The Miracle and Innuendo so maybe that's why these albums have the best sound to me,I don't know. |
| Day dop 27.07.2017 16:03 |
The albums with the best sound quality are... A Day At The Races, News Of The World, The Game and The Works. |
| Day dop 27.07.2017 16:03 |
Best versions on my set up & to my ears are... The first pressings of UK vinyl. The 2004 Japanese mini vinyl CDs. |
| Day dop 27.07.2017 22:23 |
Overall, I'd say The Game is the best recording. |
| cmsdrums 28.07.2017 11:17 |
liam wrote: Surely ANATO and ADATR. They are clear, beautifully produced albums, with very few muddy parts. The drums and bass sound excellent.Yup |
| Vocal harmony 28.07.2017 12:15 |
cmsdrums wrote:I always thought that, while similar, ADATR had a more balanced sound than ANATO, which I always thought had a brittle/harsh sounding top end to it.liam wrote: Surely ANATO and ADATR. They are clear, beautifully produced albums, with very few muddy parts. The drums and bass sound excellent.Yup |
| N0_Camping4U 29.07.2017 17:47 |
Day dop wrote: The albums with the best sound quality are... A Day At The Races, News Of The World, The Game and The Works.According to the moron who posted earlier (cmsdrums) you're a 'dickhead' for saying The Works has high production values. So be careful having your own opinion. |
| Gregsynth 29.07.2017 18:06 |
I always liked the production on Races and the Game personally! |