QueenZone discussion #1479646

Adam Unger (QueenVault.com) wrote: Great site!

Dr Magus wrote: The Queen Live book came out over 20 years ago. It was researched and compiled long before the internet made everything easy.

MercurialFreddie wrote: I'm not slamming GB for his work as 20 years ago his book was one of the best (maybe only) reliable source on Queen performing live.

Kamenliter wrote: Congratulations, my friend, for all the hard work and dedication to this glorious band we all love. The depth and attention tof detail on the site is to be applauded. Hopefully in 10 more years time, some of those spots under RoIO, (or maybe even video) will be filled.

RafaelS wrote: Great site run by someone who doesn't dare to answer people when they send emails to collect information.

jrd1951 wrote: A great site,have used it many times to check various facts.No idea how you do all this,here's to the next ten years! xx JRD

The Real Wizard wrote:

RafaelS wrote: Great site run by someone who doesn't dare to answer people when they send emails to collect information.

This is not the place for trolling. What exactly have you provided for this community again?

The Real Wizard wrote:

RafaelS wrote: Great site run by someone who doesn't dare to answer people when they send emails to collect information.

This is not the place for trolling. What exactly have you provided for this community again?

Panchgani wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

RafaelS wrote: Great site run by someone who doesn't dare to answer people when they send emails to collect information.

This is not the place for trolling. What exactly have you provided for this community again?

So why did you not answer Rafael's e-mail? Hey Real Wizard you're a real big cheese ...

RafaelS wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

RafaelS wrote: Great site run by someone who doesn't dare to answer people when they send emails to collect information.

This is not the place for trolling. What exactly have you provided for this community again?

You don't like receiving bad feedbacks Wiz? But don't worry, you belong to this "community" with all your minions congratulating you for your "good work".

RafaelS wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

RafaelS wrote: Great site run by someone who doesn't dare to answer people when they send emails to collect information.

This is not the place for trolling. What exactly have you provided for this community again?

You don't like receiving bad feedbacks Wiz? But don't worry, you belong to this "community" with all your minions congratulating you for your "good work".

thomasquinn 32989 wrote:

Panchgani wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

RafaelS wrote: Great site run by someone who doesn't dare to answer people when they send emails to collect information.

This is not the place for trolling. What exactly have you provided for this community again?

So why did you not answer Rafael's e-mail? Hey Real Wizard you're a real big cheese ...

Interesting how you instantly believe everything Rafael claims. But, if someone's ranting against Bob, it must be true, because Bob is an evil godless liberal. You seem to materialize out of thin air whenever you can stir up trouble, but you rarely contribute anything else. I'm pretty sure you didn't check this topic out to read about QueenLive.ca's anniversary. You're such a troll.

The Real Wizard wrote:

jrd1951 wrote: A great site,have used it many times to check various facts.No idea how you do all this,here's to the next ten years! xx JRD

The part of me that thinks you actually are John Deacon fills me with joy. But in case your thoughts aren't rhetorical - it's basically a ton of reading, listening, and detective work connecting the dots. It's one of the most fun projects I've ever done.

GT wrote: Congrats Bob, its still a great site.

jozef wrote: I really don't know what I would write (as I would describe them) to the pictures there (for most of them) ...  link    ... if your website didn't exist ... It's oddly, I know your webside from the beginning, but I started constantly stealing from it just  this year :-) .... Much much thank you for your job The Real Wizard and congratulations to the anniversary.

Panchgani wrote: Bob is generally good person, but his arrogant side gets on my nerves sometimes when he pulls out his dismissive "what have you contributed to this site" card.

Panchgani wrote: I still maintain that the "what have you contributed to this site" comment was unnecessary.

Panchgani wrote: I also do not understand how Raphael's complaint about not responding to e-mail makes him a troll.

Sebastian wrote: Over the many, many, many instances Bob and I have failed to see eye to eye or even engaged in long-winded debates, not once has he ever been uppity or dismissive.

Sebastian wrote:

Panchgani wrote: I still maintain that the "what have you contributed to this site" comment was unnecessary.

Considering your 'maybe you're just a musician' attack aimed at him a while back, this is a crystal clear case of 'pot, kettle.'

Panchgani wrote: I also do not understand how Raphael's complaint about not responding to e-mail makes him a troll.

Let's assume for a moment that he's right and Bob didn't actually reply. Even in that case (which could've had plenty of explanations such as it having gone to junk mail, an internet connexion fail at the time of pressing 'send', good old procrastination, etc), the mature course of action would've been contacting him privately again and bringing it up. Instead, RafaelS presumably went straight to airing that dirty laundry in public, presumably trying to rain on his parade just as Bob was (rightfully and deservingly) celebrating the tenth anniversary of his fantastic website. Whether RafaelS contributed a lot, a little or nothing to QZ is completely irrelevant IMO: inflammatory comment is being inflammatory; it's being poorly timed and done in an awful way. That's what makes him a troll. PS: Over the many, many, many instances Bob and I have failed to see eye to eye or even engaged in long-winded debates, not once has he ever been uppity or dismissive.

RafaelS wrote: I have the right to express my opinion and I'm not a troll whether you like it or not. Who are you to decide if someone is something or not. I haven't threaten Wizard, I just don't like the way he behaves with people. Also, I will repeat what I said before, all you people on QZ are living in a fantasy world, but in the real world you have a very bad reputation as a place of mean people and at acting like scumbags. I've seen comments worse than mine by members like Mooghead who is always irrelevant with members and especially with newbies. Most of you people around here are very mean for no reasons most of the time. Anyway, real Queen fans and collectors don't give a shit about Queenzone anyway and I've talked to a lot of them thru the years and they have all the same poor opinion of QZ. Anyway, Sebastian you can take your troll remark and stick where the sun doesn't even think about shinning.

Vocal harmony wrote:

RafaelS wrote: I have the right to express my opinion and I'm not a troll whether you like it or not. Who are you to decide if someone is something or not. I haven't threaten Wizard, I just don't like the way he behaves with people. Also, I will repeat what I said before, all you people on QZ are living in a fantasy world, but in the real world you have a very bad reputation as a place of mean people and at acting like scumbags. I've seen comments worse than mine by members like Mooghead who is always irrelevant with members and especially with newbies. Most of you people around here are very mean for no reasons most of the time. Anyway, real Queen fans and collectors don't give a shit about Queenzone anyway and I've talked to a lot of them thru the years and they have all the same poor opinion of QZ. Anyway, Sebastian you can take your troll remark and stick where the sun doesn't even think about shinning.

There are people here who have a huge knowledge about the band. Sebastian and the Wizard are two of those people! If you think this site is as bad as you've said, why the fuck are you here?

RafaelS wrote: I have the right to express my opinion

RafaelS wrote: I'm not a troll whether you like it or not.

RafaelS wrote: Who are you to decide if someone is something or not.

RafaelS wrote: I haven't threaten Wizard, I just don't like the way he behaves with people.

RafaelS wrote: all you people on QZ are living in a fantasy world

RafaelS wrote: a place of mean people and at acting like scumbags.

RafaelS wrote: I've seen comments worse than mine

RafaelS wrote: Anyway, real Queen fans and collectors don't give a shit about Queenzone anyway and I've talked to a lot of them thru the years and they have all the same poor opinion of QZ.

RafaelS wrote: Sebastian you can take your troll remark and stick where the sun doesn't even think about shinning.

RafaelS wrote: So predictable that someone would ask this question and in such an unpolite way.

RafaelS wrote: There are great people here...

RafaelS wrote: That guy should work for QP

RafaelS wrote: for God's sake.

RafaelS wrote: I couldn't care less for those who hate me

RafaelS wrote: just ignore me and it will be all good.

RafaelS wrote: There are great people on QZ

RafaelS wrote: there's a lot of retards

RafaelS wrote: that makes me really sad to share the passion of such a great group as Queen with such lame people.

RafaelS wrote:

Vocal harmony wrote:

RafaelS wrote:

. . . . why the fuck are you here?

So predictable that someone would ask this question and in such an unpolite way. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .There are great people on QZ, but there's a lot of retards and that makes me really sad to share the passion of such a great group as Queen with such lame people.

Sebastian wrote:

RafaelS wrote: all you people on QZ are living in a fantasy world

Since you're also on QZ, that applies to you as well.

RafaelS wrote: a place of mean people and at acting like scumbags.

Like you, for instance. You fit that description: you're on QZ, you're being mean and you're acting like a scumbag. Moreover, you deny it, thus living in the fantasy world you mentioned earlier.

RafaelS wrote: I've seen comments worse than mine

So have I, but that doesn't make your comments any better. It's like a burglar saying, 'oh, yeah, I mugged and robbed and stole, but that bloke over there stole more than I did, therefore I'm not a thief!'

RafaelS wrote: Anyway, real Queen fans and collectors don't give a shit about Queenzone anyway and I've talked to a lot of them thru the years and they have all the same poor opinion of QZ.

And yet here you are!

BETA215 wrote: Don't have actual quotes given that I won't spend my time on that

Sebastian wrote:

RafaelS wrote: I have the right to express my opinion

Of course you do, but it doesn't mean every opinion is valid. If I decided you were a wife-beater, even though I have zero evidence of that, I wouldn't just whine about it and say 'oh, it's my opinion, you should respect it.'

RafaelS wrote: I'm not a troll whether you like it or not.

You do fit the definition.

RafaelS wrote: Who are you to decide if someone is something or not.

You could ask yourself the same question.

RafaelS wrote: I haven't threaten Wizard, I just don't like the way he behaves with people.

Trolling is not limited to issuing threats. It can simply be the fact you came to this thread to air your dirty laundry completely unprovoked and then resort to personal insults. That's being a troll.

RafaelS wrote: all you people on QZ are living in a fantasy world

Since you're also on QZ, that applies to you as well.

RafaelS wrote: a place of mean people and at acting like scumbags.

Like you, for instance. You fit that description: you're on QZ, you're being mean and you're acting like a scumbag. Moreover, you deny it, thus living in the fantasy world you mentioned earlier.

RafaelS wrote: I've seen comments worse than mine

So have I, but that doesn't make your comments any better. It's like a burglar saying, 'oh, yeah, I mugged and robbed and stole, but that bloke over there stole more than I did, therefore I'm not a thief!'

RafaelS wrote: Anyway, real Queen fans and collectors don't give a shit about Queenzone anyway and I've talked to a lot of them thru the years and they have all the same poor opinion of QZ.

And yet here you are!

RafaelS wrote: Sebastian you can take your troll remark and stick where the sun doesn't even think about shinning.

Oh, personal insults again. Your arguments must be so sound!

RafaelS wrote: So predictable that someone would ask this question and in such an unpolite way.

And yet here you are!

RafaelS wrote: There are great people here...

And yet you were earlier saying this is just a place of mean people who act like scumbags. Can you make up your mind?

RafaelS wrote: That guy should work for QP

Not really - he's not sloppy and he's not antagonistic towards fans, so he's not qualified.

RafaelS wrote: for God's sake.

God doesn't exist.

RafaelS wrote: I couldn't care less for those who hate me

I can't really speak for the others, but I don't think anyone hates you. Yet, self-victimisation is natural for internet trolls anyway.

RafaelS wrote: just ignore me and it will be all good.

Why don't you take your own advice?

RafaelS wrote: There are great people on QZ

And yet you were earlier saying this is just a place of mean people who act like scumbags. Can you make up your mind?

RafaelS wrote: there's a lot of retards

Quoting what some internet troll said on QZ, 'Who are you to decide if someone is something or not'?

RafaelS wrote: that makes me really sad to share the passion of such a great group as Queen with such lame people.

Paraphrasing what some internet troll said on QZ, 'just ignore (such lame people) and it will be all good.'

RafaelS wrote: You have a lot of spare times

RafaelS wrote: I won't spend my time answering all this nonsense you've written.

RafaelS wrote: Really, it's quite pathetic from you.

BETA215 wrote: I actually don't like that Sebastian sometimes. That way of dissecting a comment has been used sometimes ... .

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Sebastian wrote:

BETA215 wrote: Don't have actual quotes given that I won't spend my time on that

Exactly!

Chopin1995 wrote: Happy 11th anniversary to one of my favourite websites!

The Real Wizard wrote:

Chopin1995 wrote: Happy 11th anniversary to one of my favourite websites!

Haha, thanks ! Soon I'm going to have a slew of new photos from 1976-80. Pretty unreal that this stuff keeps popping up.