| earwig 09.05.2017 17:06 |
It's always amazed me that literally not one single frame of this videoed concert has ever emerged - either as a bootleg or in an official documentary. Has anyone ever seen any clips? P.S. I'm hoping that at least a few songs from this gig might be used as bonus footage on the Brixton DVD that's about to be released... well I can dream on both counts!! ;-) |
| dave76 09.05.2017 17:14 |
Maybe some footage will emerge in his forthcoming boxset. |
| softcalavera2 09.05.2017 22:19 |
dave76 wrote: Maybe some footage will emerge in his forthcoming boxset.I agree. |
| matt z 10.05.2017 00:10 |
softcalavera2 wrote:I disagree.dave76 wrote: Maybe some footage will emerge in his forthcoming boxset.I agree. It's predicated on a "MAYBE" which does not even SUPPOSE. The level of knowledge on the (still POTENTIAL) release is unfounded. I don't anticipate anything to whet the appetites of long term fans except maybe the restorationof songs not released on the original cd |
| MAYniac91 10.05.2017 00:47 |
I don't see any release of Brian May this year. No Brixton and especially no box set. Brian May say's in an interview around 1999 (I belive) he was not happy with the performance that night... so maybe the gig will never see the light of day. A shame... |
| Elektra 10.05.2017 01:56 |
MAYniac91 wrote: I don't see any release of Brian May this year. No Brixton and especially no box set. Brian May say's in an interview around 1999 (I belive) he was not happy with the performance that night... so maybe the gig will never see the light of day. A shame...Hence why we dont see other releases. Brian and Roger are so critical about their work |
| brians wig 10.05.2017 03:45 |
Again, as commented upon many years ago, this show was apparantly filmed in 3D, but the audio recording was plagued with interference from taxi drivers radios, so don't get your hopes up. As Earwig says though, if this was the only one professionally filmed, it would be nice to see something from it. |
| Togg 10.05.2017 06:29 |
I was there and I don't remember any filming at all, maybe there was but it certainly never stuck in the mind, unlike other Queen gigs or the Brixton gig that was very obviously fimed at the time |
| dudeofqueen 10.05.2017 07:42 |
I walked out of the show after Brian appeared on stage in fancy dress - I couldn't believe that a true guitar genius had been reduced to this. I spent the rest of the evening at The Queen's Arms in Queensgate Mews waiting for a mate of mine who wouldn't leave. Hopefully it remains unreleased and they put out something from the BTTL tour. |
| dudeofqueen 10.05.2017 07:43 |
Double post |
| Mkls 10.05.2017 08:57 |
well I WAS there, and spent a good amount of time checking the outside video mobile truck unit , I have seen parts of the soundcheck on the TV monitors - so now the facts: 1/ it was directed by Rudi Dolezal (DoRo or not, who knows) 2/ with about 14-16 cameras , -probably- in HD already 3/ it looked really nice , sharp, superbly lit, nice camera angles , brian in white shirt in the middle of the stage , doing soundcheck for the acoustic part - the royal albert hall is itself very nice inside with the lights 4/ i didnt see any sign of 3D cameras or similar As I was standing next to the above mentioned TV truck -with the 16+ control TV units inside- for about an hour in the queue, I have seen it with my own eyes . Rudi Dolezal was there recording fans in the queue with his own handheld HD cam. We havent seen one single shot so far, I -guess- it all ended up in Brians archive. Or Rudi's. Maybe Brian was completely unhappy with the whole tour and theshow and no final product was ever done, only the raw tapes archived in his attic.. I remember i was thinking finally a show where I dont have to bootleg anything, plus I ended up in the first row with all the cameras near and it would have been an awesome looking professional another world video - its sad it never happened! |
| jeffuk49 10.05.2017 13:39 |
yeah i remember that concert loads of cameras everywhere and Tony Hadley sitting behind me |
| The Real Wizard 10.05.2017 14:04 |
dudeofqueen wrote: I walked out of the show after Brian appeared on stage in fancy dress - I couldn't believe that a true guitar genius had been reduced to this.Umm, have you seen any of their 70s concert footage? Brian didn't start wearing fancy outfits in the 90s. |
| cmsdrums 10.05.2017 14:11 |
The Real Wizard wrote:I don't think he just meant fancy as in 'theatrical', but actually 'fancy dress' - i.e. he was disguised as his alter ego Twitty Conway, ready for Only Make Believe.dudeofqueen wrote: I walked out of the show after Brian appeared on stage in fancy dress - I couldn't believe that a true guitar genius had been reduced to this.Umm, have you seen any of their 70s concert footage? Brian didn't start wearing fancy outfits in the 90s. I was also right at the front of the central walkway and so am disappointed none of the footage has emerged yet. I recall that a few weeks before the gig I got a letter from the ticket agency stating that Brian had decided that the originally all seated gig would be filmed, and so would I mind now standing instead. |
| people on streets 10.05.2017 14:12 |
dudeofqueen wrote: I walked out of the show after Brian appeared on stage in fancy dress - I couldn't believe that a true guitar genius had been reduced to this. I spent the rest of the evening at The Queen's Arms in Queensgate Mews waiting for a mate of mine who wouldn't leave. Hopefully it remains unreleased and they put out something from the BTTL tour.Oh you fashion boy! I went for the music, not Brian's taste, or lack of as you wish, in fashion.... It was my first concert ever (Brian 98) so I might be biased. But I loved every minute of it. |
| DrumBrother 10.05.2017 15:34 |
I was there also and remember cameras everywhere. Hated the Twitty Conway stuff and always felt instead of just playing a snippet of Dance With The Devil they should've played the full song as a tribute to Cozy. Had great seats in a box dead center looking down on the stage. Joe Elliott was there, spoke to him on the way to the loo. Would be nice if it was released. |
| cmsdrums 11.05.2017 03:16 |
dudeofqueen wrote: I walked out of the show after Brian appeared on stage in fancy dress - I couldn't believe that a true guitar genius had been reduced to this. I spent the rest of the evening at The Queen's Arms in Queensgate Mews waiting for a mate of mine who wouldn't leave. Hopefully it remains unreleased and they put out something from the BTTL tour.I can't believe you left a fantastic two hour show based purely on the fact that as an opening 'illusion' piece Brian appeared dressed differently (and for a specific purpose) for all of 3 minutes before reverting to 'normal' clothing for the rest of the gig. |
| brians wig 11.05.2017 04:32 |
Thank You Miklos for that GREAT piece of information and confirmation that it WAS filmed. |
| e-man 11.05.2017 06:27 |
thanks Miklos for a very informative post. (do you still have the video of Brian's Milan 98 gig? very sought after :) ) I followed the tour very closely via various online sources. I remember a german guy had a good website about the tour, and it was widely reported on different queen sites too. Apparently, Linz (in DoRo's home Austria) was originally the choice for recording / filming, but it was shelved after it turned out the venue was too small for a nice film shoot. (please correct me on this if I'm wrong!) By the time Albert Hall came along it was reported that it would be filmed for release. To this day, for nostalgic reasons, it's one of the things in the archive I would most like to see. There are many good bootlegs from that tour, but a properly mixed dvd (maybe even blu ray) would make the thing come alive in a whole new way. The band was very good, and the set list was also nice. To all of a sudden have a 20 year old Brian May live release pop up on its own is probably too far fetched. BUT; if there indeed is a box set in the works, this is a great way to get Albert Hall 98 out there. I'd much rather see Albert Hall than a remastered Brixton |
| last-horizon 42265 11.05.2017 09:05 |
Besides, Offenbach was filmed too, but only the very early stage of the show has surfaced. The Russian dates were also professionally filmed by local TV stations. Brian had a terrible flu during the week prior to the RAH show which made him cancel a couple of italian dates. He saw a doctor in Vienna that helped him a lot to resume the tour. By the time that the RAH took place, Brian was still in bad shape. He still brought 'Business' back for one more time because it had been a single and would have been weird it not to be included in a VHS of a show promoting that album. Business had been removed from the set list earlier in the tour due to its demanding vocal skills, which were probably hurting Brian's throat. Still, there is an audience recording made by Paul Sheaffer (aka Toyrx, RIP) which is the evidency of the condition that Brian was going through and we can clearly see why, being the perfectionist he is, didn't want a second of it to seeing the light of day. Paul also captured Birmingham 98 (first Sail Away Sweeet Sister performance ever) and some RT 1999 shows that have never circulated, and unfortunately got lost forever since he passed away under tragic circumstances before he had the chance to send them to me (cassettes snail mail trades era). In my opinion the AW tour was under average. Cozy's empty space hadn't been filled even in a 5% by ES. Cozy was the soul of the 1992/3 incarnation of the BM Band. The AW set list was ok but too long and boring during the acoustic On My Way Up, Driven By You section and We Will Rock You was played at an insanely slow speed. And Resurrection, as a respect to Cozy, shouldn't have been played at all, even as a tribute. That song without Cozy was reduced to tears and is still shameful to listen to. They should have left that one alone. And the Twitty Conway thing was just embarrasing (yet trying to be kind). On the contrary, the 1993 Band was on fire. I can understand that Brian had all the touring contracts singed by the time that Cozy died and he just had to go on, and I can also understand why Brian's solo career was interrupted after the AW tour. No Cozy, no BM band. My two cents. |
| Negative Creep 11.05.2017 09:46 |
Sorry guys - they set up all them cameras just so the guys in the mobile recording truck could watch it from outside and no one thought to put any tapes into the machines to actually record it. Bummer! :) Seriously though, the "interference from taxi drivers radios" story has got to be bollocks and just sounds like a typical QPL/Associates bullshit line. |
| dudeofqueen 11.05.2017 10:06 |
>I can't believe you left a fantastic two hour show based purely on the fact that as an opening 'illusion' piece Brian appeared dressed differently (and for a specific purpose) for all of 3 minutes before reverting to 'normal' clothing for the rest of the gig. True story. I thought it was a complete fucking shambles that he would piss about like that. I felt short-changed by the entire AW album being a collection of crap ballads and some cover versions that had been previously available in other formats. I was just really looking forward to him doing what he does best; playing unmatchable lead guitar with that truly unique tone. What did I get? A bloke in a wig, some 'brothel creepers' and a drape jacket crooning badly. Completely and utterly destroyed his aura as far as I was concerned and I vowed never to spend another penny on his solo material. |
| dudeofqueen 11.05.2017 10:07 |
Negative Creep, re: >Seriously though, the "interference from taxi drivers radios" story has got to be bollocks and just sounds like a typical QPL/Associates bullshit line. TFFMS was never played live. Hangman was never recorded. ......and the beat goes on. |
| Vocal harmony 11.05.2017 11:07 |
^^ reminds me of someone I spoke too years ago who walked out of a Queen gig in Edinburgh in 1982. He left during the intro Because he hadn't liked anything they'd done since ADATR and hated Flash Gordon! |
| brians wig 11.05.2017 11:48 |
Negative Creep wrote: Sorry guys - they set up all them cameras just so the guys in the mobile recording truck could watch it from outside and no one thought to put any tapes into the machines to actually record it. Bummer! :) Seriously though, the "interference from taxi drivers radios" story has got to be bollocks and just sounds like a typical QPL/Associates bullshit line.Brian WAS having this trouble at a number of his '98 gigs. He said as much on stage a few times. Some of us are old enough to have been there! |
| e-man 12.05.2017 03:37 |
last-horizon 42265 wrote: Besides, Offenbach was filmed too, but only the very early stage of the show has surfaced. The Russian dates were also professionally filmed by local TV stations. Brian had a terrible flu during the week prior to the RAH show which made him cancel a couple of italian dates. He saw a doctor in Vienna that helped him a lot to resume the tour. By the time that the RAH took place, Brian was still in bad shape. He still brought 'Business' back for one more time because it had been a single and would have been weird it not to be included in a VHS of a show promoting that album. Business had been removed from the set list earlier in the tour due to its demanding vocal skills, which were probably hurting Brian's throat. Still, there is an audience recording made by Paul Sheaffer (aka Toyrx, RIP) which is the evidency of the condition that Brian was going through and we can clearly see why, being the perfectionist he is, didn't want a second of it to seeing the light of day. Paul also captured Birmingham 98 (first Sail Away Sweeet Sister performance ever) and some RT 1999 shows that have never circulated, and unfortunately got lost forever since he passed away under tragic circumstances before he had the chance to send them to me (cassettes snail mail trades era). In my opinion the AW tour was under average. Cozy's empty space hadn't been filled even in a 5% by ES. Cozy was the soul of the 1992/3 incarnation of the BM Band. The AW set list was ok but too long and boring during the acoustic On My Way Up, Driven By You section and We Will Rock You was played at an insanely slow speed. And Resurrection, as a respect to Cozy, shouldn't have been played at all, even as a tribute. That song without Cozy was reduced to tears and is still shameful to listen to. They should have left that one alone. And the Twitty Conway thing was just embarrasing (yet trying to be kind). On the contrary, the 1993 Band was on fire. I can understand that Brian had all the touring contracts singed by the time that Cozy died and he just had to go on, and I can also understand why Brian's solo career was interrupted after the AW tour. No Cozy, no BM band. My two cents.True about Offenbach, but only the first two songs are out there. The story, at the time at least, was that they (local tv station) weren't allowed to film more than the first few songs. St. Petersburg was filmed by a tv station, and about 40% of the gig has surfaced. There are tracks from different parts of the concert, so it's safe to assume the whole thing is in an archive somewhere. I have both of these on VHS, which took quite a bit of work to get hold of in 1998/1999!! Moscow though is an audience shot. Afaik, there's no professional footage there. About Brian's vocal issues; the week leading up to the UK dates were indeed shaky. However, I have the audience recording of RAH and it's not THAT bad. Brian's never been a great live vocalist anyway, and imo, RAH is no doubt worthy of a release. Brixton 93 is hardly a tour de force vocally either.... As far as Cozy, no question that he was the heart and soul of that band. I do however think that Eric Singer did a great job. He's not cozy, but then again, no one is! |
| Togg 12.05.2017 04:10 |
How many nights did he do at the Albert hall? I seriously don't remember the filming... maybe I just didnt take it in |
| cmsdrums 12.05.2017 05:33 |
From memory, just the one night there (can't recall if there were any other London shows, like on the BTTL tour when he played Hammersmith and Brixton). |
| john bodega 12.05.2017 06:12 |
unrelated, but can anyone explain this to me? link What the fuck was he thinking? Was Brian in a particularly dark place when he was doing this act? |
| Vocal harmony 12.05.2017 08:11 |
Togg wrote: How many nights did he do at the Albert hall? I seriously don't remember the filming... maybe I just didnt take it inHe played the Albert Hall on the second leg of the Back To The Light Tour as well. But only once on each occasion BTTL and Another World. |
| Penetration_Guru 12.05.2017 14:45 |
3D in 1998? I'd be astonished. I was there too, and Brian's voice was screwed. No way will this ever be released. |
| e-man 12.05.2017 15:33 |
Vocal harmony wrote:there's a quote from Brian where he says the Albert Hall 93 gig should have been released instead of Brixton.Togg wrote: How many nights did he do at the Albert hall? I seriously don't remember the filming... maybe I just didnt take it inHe played the Albert Hall on the second leg of the Back To The Light Tour as well. But only once on each occasion BTTL and Another World. I have the audience recording, and it is indeed a good gig |
| Negative Creep 13.05.2017 06:16 |
brians wig wrote: Brian WAS having this trouble at a number of his '98 gigs. He said as much on stage a few times. Some of us are old enough to have been there!Wow - what a smart arse. I may not have attended the Albert Hall gig, but I did Manchester, Sheffield and Nottingham on that tour thanks. If there was such huge problems, why would anyone there expect it to be released then? Anyway - any interference would be more likely affecting only the monitor and/or speaker systems. So whilst if there was an audible interference coming through the monitor the microphones would pick elements of that up, it should be that difficult to clean up by editing the multitracks. |
| Vocal harmony 13.05.2017 09:10 |
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| people on streets 14.05.2017 11:17 |
john bodega wrote: unrelated, but can anyone explain this to me? link What the fuck was he thinking? Was Brian in a particularly dark place when he was doing this act?I don't see what's wrong with it. It's not my taste sure. But there's nothing wrong with it imho. |
| dysan 14.05.2017 13:37 |
Pretty good trousers. |
| The Real Wizard 14.05.2017 14:34 |
john bodega wrote: unrelated, but can anyone explain this to me? link What the fuck was he thinking? Was Brian in a particularly dark place when he was doing this act?I'd say he was climbing out of it by that point. I just watch this and think - what a fucking great band that was. The energy from the audience is palpable, too. What a great atmosphere. It's videos like this that remind me how all the Queen+ stuff probably wouldn't have happened had Cozy Powell not died. Brian was really happy in this band. |
| cmsdrums 15.05.2017 04:01 |
The Real Wizard wrote: It's videos like this that remind me how all the Queen+ stuff probably wouldn't have happened had Cozy Powell not died. Brian was really happy in this band.Indeed...if Cozy hadn't died then I don't believe Brian would have gone back to playing, and working extensively as 'Queen', with Roger; Brian seemed to have a good partnership with Cozy, and has often said that he was one of the few people he really trusted to bounce song ideas off and get an honest gut feeling on whether they were worth pursuing. |
| Oscar J 15.05.2017 06:43 |
cmsdrums wrote: Indeed...if Cozy hadn't died then I don't believe Brian would have gone back to playing, and working extensively as 'Queen', with Roger; Brian seemed to have a good partnership with Cozy, and has often said that he was one of the few people he really trusted to bounce song ideas off and get an honest gut feeling on whether they were worth pursuing.Sounds like Cozy should have said "No" a few more times. Hrrrm. |
| earwig 15.05.2017 10:16 |
Apologies: as the topic starter I've only just read all the replies. Thanks... some great information!! I was there that night and recall A4 sized notices - with a DoRo logo at the top - on all the door saying something like "by attending this concert you consent to being filmed" or words to that effect. I now REALLY wish I'd 'liberated' one of these signs *cough* I recall Since You've Been Gone being played early in the set but Brian forgetting to make the tribute announcement to Cozy until a few songs later. Would have been interesting trying to edit that back in!! As far as radio interference: everyone was using UHF by the 1990s so there can't have been any 'Spinal Tap' moments. Regarding being shot in 3D... there was a 3D Doctor Who special filmed in a sort of 3D in the 1990s, but could be viewed normally too. Finally, HD cameras were probably invented by then but surely not practically being used. After all, DVD only came out in 1997 I think?! Lastly my personal 2 cents... Yes I agree the Conway Twitty thing was kind of embarrassing Eric Singer is a FINE drummer and really not so different in style to Cozy Powell. RMT however is/was totally different in style... |
| Oscar J 15.05.2017 13:56 |
I don't like Powell's drumming much with May. He hits hard, sure, but it's not too creative. |
| e-man 16.05.2017 04:29 |
I remember when I got the Brixton album it took a while to get used to Cozy's drumming on the Queen tracks! A heavy hitter, for sure. Apart from Wembley 86, Brixton must be the most played live album in my collection. (perhaps a tie between Brixton and Springsteen's live album from the reunion tour in 99/2000) Anyways; as I've said before; musically speaking, the QPR tours were basically the Brian May Band with a different drummer (certainly Cardiff 2008 when Neil Murray had to stand in), and that's when you really notice what a huge part of the Queen sound Roger Taylor is. While Cozy, and CERTAINLY Eric Singer, are more technically skilled drummers than RT, the latter has his own unique style and touch which make him stand out. (and that's only the drumming, his vocals are no doubt distinctive too) Cozy and Eric did a great job on the Queen tracks, both in their own way, but it never sounds quite right without RT. Having said that; Albert Hall should still be released, regardless of what some people may think about the drumming / Brian's vocals that night. Some fine tuning can be done in the studio, which is the case on most live releases anyway |
| The Real Wizard 16.05.2017 11:16 |
e-man wrote: Having said that; Albert Hall should still be released, regardless of what some people may think about the drumming / Brian's vocals that night. Some fine tuning can be done in the studio, which is the case on most live releases anywayMaybe just a few tracks on a box set at most. I remember hearing an audience tape of the show, and even when I was 16 I thought "damn, that was an off night." |
| popy 16.05.2017 21:29 |
HD em 1993 In 2002 D-Theater launched in the US - the dealers needed a demo tape of HD footage. JVC reused some HD video that had been shot as a demo for the Japanese HD market back in 1993. This footage would have most likely been originally used for a HiVision MUSE demo (an HD Broadcast, Tape & Laserdisc format). You can determine that the year is 1993 by the adverts in Times Square - The Radio 501 CD that's advertised on a billboard came out in 1993 and Paper Moon is playing at the Marquis Theater. For those wondering what HD video camera tech existed in 1993 - there are a few options, but it's likely that this footage was shot with a HDVS camera- perhaps a Sony SONY HDC-500 attached to a HDV-10 portable recorder which recorded on UniHi 3/4" tape. BBC engineers demonstrate and describe their in-house developed HDTV 1250 line Digitally Assisted TV (DATV) system. This used a combination of analogue and digital data to broadcast the HDTV signal. Also covered are the Japanise MUSE HDTV system, satellite broadcasting, widescreen, and the Cinetrace pan & scan system. He basically talks about the European HDTV standart in the early 90's. http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_MEMO-92-28_en.htm Highdefinition television in each of the pavilions along the Avenida de Europa The 1992 Seville World Fair will serve, like the Winter Olympics in Albertville and the Summer Olympics in Barcelona, both as a source of spectacular pictures and as a showcase for skills in HDTV technology. Thanks to close cooperation between the Member States, industrialists, producers, broadcasters, Retevision (a publicsector company responsible for operating television infrastructures in Spain) and EXPO '92, HDTV will be on show in all the pavilions on the Avenida de Europa. There will be showings of films made to the new HDTV standard and broadcasts covering events at the Fair and elsewhere, such as the Olympic Games in Barcelona. For the opening of the exhibition on 20 April 1992 this "European network" will also be showing a video programme entitled "Europe rediscovered or the return of Columbus" produced to the high- definition standard by the European Commission. Japan saw the Italy 90 World Cup in HDTV. |
| popy 16.05.2017 22:36 |
Just one more, a gig from Bob Dylan shot in HD in 1992: http://www.bobdylan.com/news/30th-anniversary-concert-celebration-deluxe-edition-released-first-time-dvd-and-blu-ray/ Struck from a new High Definition video master with remastered audio, The 30th Anniversary Concert Celebration – Deluxe Edition makes this historic all-star musical event available for the first time on DVD and Blu-ray. With this i'm just showing that HDTV cameras were available in the 90's, and even in the 80's (if you bother to dig further), but they had lower resolution. I'm not saying that Brian gig in 1998 was shot in HD, but just saying HD was already available at the time. |
| BradMay 17.05.2017 03:55 |
Eh what about the 35mm footage they used in Budapest '86 and Montreal '81? 35mm is HD. |
| earwig 17.05.2017 04:52 |
BradMay wrote: Eh what about the 35mm footage they used in Budapest '86 and Montreal '81? 35mm is HD.The Wizard of Oz (to name but one movie!) was shot on 35mm in 1939. You can hardly call film an HD format!! Film has been around forever and doesn't use lines - 625, 1080, 4K etc - it uses celluloid grain. Sorry to be pedantic but to say 35mm footage is HD is just a bit odd!! Only now is there technology to scan film into 8k etc... When 425 b&w came out in the early 60s THAT was called HD!! Haha!! |
| YourValentine 17.05.2017 10:51 |
@ e-man - in fact Offenbach was filmed completely by a local camera crew with only two cameras. The 11:40 min we know (Since You've Been Gone and China Belle) were cut for broadcast on a local TV station. The sound of the video is quite horrible because they cut the films of the two cameras with the two sounds recorded from those cameras, so with each change of camera view you have another (bad) sound. I think the crew never had a proper sound track and probably the film was never really completed. In Offenbach Brian's voice was very hoarse and he was obviously suffering from a flu or something. It was a real pity because the venue was very small and it could have been a fantastic experience had he not been so ill. |
| e-man 18.05.2017 05:59 |
YourValentine wrote: @ e-man - in fact Offenbach was filmed completely by a local camera crew with only two cameras. The 11:40 min we know (Since You've Been Gone and China Belle) were cut for broadcast on a local TV station. The sound of the video is quite horrible because they cut the films of the two cameras with the two sounds recorded from those cameras, so with each change of camera view you have another (bad) sound. I think the crew never had a proper sound track and probably the film was never really completed. In Offenbach Brian's voice was very hoarse and he was obviously suffering from a flu or something. It was a real pity because the venue was very small and it could have been a fantastic experience had he not been so ill.thanks for the info. Didn't know this at all. Would have been all the more frustrating if I knew back then :) Looks like a tiny place from the footage, so somewhere in this station's archive there might be a complete sweaty gig |
| Vocal harmony 18.05.2017 08:34 |
The Real Wizard wrote:e-man wrote: Having said that; Albert Hall should still be released, regardless of what some people may think about the drumming / Brian's vocals that night. Some fine tuning can be done in the studio, which is the case on most live releases anywayMaybe just a few tracks on a box set at most. I remember hearing an audience tape of the show, and even when I was 16 I thought "damn, that was an off night." |
| Agr123456 18.05.2017 13:31 |
On that tour Brian had many problems with his voice...He sounded fine on Gijon (the first date of the tour) but that day it was a very cold one...I CAN TELL YOU! ...Even in September Sure Brian got a cold here :( |
| tomchristie22 18.05.2017 21:36 |
earwig wrote:But the resolution of 35mm is equivalent to what we now call HD. Anything shot on 35mm film, going back to the 1910s, can be transferred in as high as 4 or 5k.BradMay wrote: Eh what about the 35mm footage they used in Budapest '86 and Montreal '81? 35mm is HD.The Wizard of Oz (to name but one movie!) was shot on 35mm in 1939. You can hardly call film an HD format!! Film has been around forever and doesn't use lines - 625, 1080, 4K etc - it uses celluloid grain. Sorry to be pedantic but to say 35mm footage is HD is just a bit odd!! Only now is there technology to scan film into 8k etc... When 425 b&w came out in the early 60s THAT was called HD!! Haha!! It's such a common misconception that 'HD' is somehow a new thing. Its availability in home release formats is what's relatively new. |
| popy 18.05.2017 23:43 |
Miklos talked about the presence of HD cameras in the gig, not film cameras. Then the OP talked about HD cameras being available at the time, so i posted a couple of examples of HD videos in the 90's and some tv reports talikng about the technology, Google is your friend if someone wants to know about HD in the 80's and 90's. |
| e-man 19.05.2017 02:45 |
As seen in this thread; Bob Dylan's 50th Birthday gig is on blu ray, using the hd technology spoken about it the clips. Looks really good considering its age and the fact that it's a digital source. I'm sure it was expensive to film it this way compared to a standard def. - but what a treat to have it in such good quality 25 yrs later. Albert Hall may very well have been shot in HD. But so was Sheffield 2005, and Japan 2005, and Ukraine 2008. No HD release to this day. So who knows whether they'll bother with a blu ray IF they decide to release it |
| cmsdrums 25.05.2017 13:32 |
I've just found my ticket from Brian's Albert Hall gig, and it is presented 'with Capital Gold'. As a result of this do we know/think any of it may have been recorded audio-wise by them, or was this just a sponsorship only type arrangement of their s with various London venues to attempt to increase their listenership? |
| Penetration_Guru 01.06.2017 16:22 |
cmsdrums wrote: I've just found my ticket from Brian's Albert Hall gig, and it is presented 'with Capital Gold'. As a result of this do we know/think any of it may have been recorded audio-wise by them, or was this just a sponsorship only type arrangement of their s with various London venues to attempt to increase their listenership?The latter. |
| The Fonz 01.06.2017 21:45 |
Woah. P_G is alive? |
| Mkls 03.06.2017 15:48 |
also Montreux festival shows were already filmed in HD since at least 1996, check any recent blu ray release from that period - so my guess it was in HD |
| cmsdrums 04.06.2017 03:56 |
Miklos wrote: also Montreux festival shows were already filmed in HD since at least 1996, check any recent blu ray release from that period - so my guess it was in HDWere they are filmed in true 1080p HD from 1996 though, are some of the early ones just upscaled from a lower resolution? |
| popy 04.06.2017 21:37 |
Most probably not 1080p in those times. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD-MAC Toto live in 1991 Tori Amos live in 1992 BB King Live At Montreux 1993 Blu-Ray review |