| . 26.03.2017 11:44 |
*** UPDATE*** Inaccurate and malicious assumptions have been made in this thread. For this reason I have now shared my pledge of Paris '84 at The Traders Den instead. link (free to register). |
| antiden 26.03.2017 15:03 |
2. Seibu Lions Stadium 3rd November 1982 (audience recording from Master tape) |
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| antiden 27.03.2017 04:35 |
Hi, This is the same source as was released on "Space Boogie" 2CD in 2005 by Wardour, but this time it comes directly from the master tape. More info here: link |
| Barry Durex 27.03.2017 04:51 |
antiden wrote: Hi, This is the same source as was released on "Space Boogie" 2CD in 2005 by Wardour, but this time it comes directly from the master tape. More info here: linkYou missed the boat on that one as it's already shared link |
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| oliverd05 27.03.2017 07:54 |
Kurgan what makes you so sure theres more uncirculated stuff out there? |
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| aristide1 27.03.2017 09:00 |
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| Chinwonder2 27.03.2017 09:26 |
This is a great idea Kurgan! Unfortunately I don't have any rarities to pledge but I hope this brings everyone together and everyone can get something out of it! :D -Chin |
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| antiden 27.03.2017 12:08 |
Barry Durex wrote:This is NOT the same bootleg I'm talking about. My 2CDR is a brand new release.antiden wrote: Hi, This is the same source as was released on "Space Boogie" 2CD in 2005 by Wardour, but this time it comes directly from the master tape. More info here: linkYou missed the boat on that one as it's already shared link |
| antiden 27.03.2017 12:08 |
Though I have some hesitation now about the fact that it's a different recording... |
| little foetus 27.03.2017 12:21 |
There are three discs on the new release, two are a rehash of Space Boogie, just a little bit louder and the third one is a new incomplete source. Unless you the last source listed by the Wizard on his website (rated B), yours is probably the same as Space Boogie. |
| little foetus 27.03.2017 12:34 |
I don't think I have anything new to share with you, unfortunately. I'm a bit skeptical about the efficiency of this process. You can't imagine how much better is the Queen trading and online sharing scene today compared to 15 years ago. When I started collecting Queen recordings in the early 2000ies, there was barely lineage on any recording, many lossy sets were circulating as lossless recordings and the whole was a big mess. I'm very happy it turned out much better today even if there's probably still a lot of uncirculated stuff. For an improvement, I think that if Queen collectors were organized as well as other bands collectors, it would be even better (teams in each country to follow leads to new recordings, a private tracker to share only best sources, etc.). But don't imagine every other bands collectors communities have no flaws. They also have some problems. Well, anyway, if any Queen collectors union was created to track down new recordings, count me in it, I'm interested. |
| Barry Durex 27.03.2017 14:58 |
Now we are in the modern day and lossy recordings are passed off as lossless, wouldn't call that progress myself. |
| dysan 27.03.2017 15:42 |
I have suffered since you blasted our kingdom. I can offer you nothing this year, except my loyalty. |
| oliverd05 27.03.2017 15:51 |
Kurgan care to give a tease of what you know is out there? |
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| dysan 29.03.2017 01:49 |
At least you didn't ask me to throw myself on my sword. YOU BIG SOFTIE. |
| brians wig 29.03.2017 03:32 |
Are we talking "Queen" or "Queen+"? There will be plenty of unshared Queen+ live recordings out there, both audio and video. |
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| on my way up 29.03.2017 06:51 |
The Kurgan wrote: Who are Queen+ ?Let's stick to Queen. I think few people are interested in Queen + Paul Rodgers or Queen + Adam Lambert recordings, uncirculated or not (except maybe for shows they went to themselves). |
| oliverd05 29.03.2017 17:26 |
yeah thats the problem I have many Queen + Adam Lambert recordings, alternative sources to what is already out there but nothing from the old days I'm afraid! |
| The Real Wizard 31.03.2017 14:20 |
To match your Paris 84 alt source, I have a couple uncirculated tapes from 1984 as well: London 9-4-84 (virtually complete show) London 9-8-84 (75 minutes) Both tapes sound great. The first night is definitely an improvement over the bootleg of the circulating source. |
| The Real Wizard 31.03.2017 14:25 |
And I've got an uncirculated source from Stockholm 4-12-78. It's not as clear as the usual source, but still very good. It's 80 minutes long, ending with BoRhap. |
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| Saint Jiub 01.04.2017 13:02 |
I have a partial concert, but the quality is not so good (B-) and it might be lossy. However it is a truly historic concert. You might recall that John and Roger were interviewed just before the concert, but unfortunately the interview was never translated. Pyongyang, South Korea - February 29, 1983 This might be an official release, but I will delete the link tomorrow if requested. link |
| Thistle 02.04.2017 12:23 |
Nobody's falling for that. |
| Saint Jiub 02.04.2017 13:30 |
What gave it away? Leap year, 1983, or Pyongyang being in North Korea rather than South Korea? :) |
| Thistle 02.04.2017 14:14 |
lol, I'm surprised that you didn't say the reporter was Pilar Folo :p |
| The Real Wizard 04.04.2017 00:09 |
The Kurgan wrote: Thanks Bob, can you please provide flac samples for these? I have updated post #1 with one of your pledges for now as I'm unclear if you are submitting multi share entries or a single entry. A flac sample link for Paris '84 is now available in post #1Of course I'll do all three ! Samples are attached. |
| The Real Wizard 04.04.2017 00:16 |
Can you add your alt source of London 1980.12.10 ? It's a very nice upgrade. That'd bring us up to 5 of the 6 tapes. |
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| aristide1 04.04.2017 05:26 |
Many of those tapes contain better versions of poorly transferred sources longtime circulating and considered definitive. Sadly the demand is for "new" not for "best", the collector win over the listener. |
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| on my way up 05.04.2017 05:26 |
I would like to bring an alternate source from the Vienna 12-05-82 show to the "Bonanza". It's 89 minutes long, missing the encores. While the quality is not as good as the circulating one it is still a very solid B+ with a lively feel to it. I listened to it (it had been years since I heard this show) and really enjoyed hearing this show again :-) |
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| on my way up 05.04.2017 07:24 |
The Kurgan wrote:Hmm. I think it should be included. The recording meets the criteria set out in the original post... It's an uncirculated Queen audience recording, obviously not released on any bootleg.on my way up wrote: I would like to bring an alternate source from the Vienna 12-05-82 show to the "Bonanza". It's 89 minutes long, missing the encores. While the quality is not as good as the circulating one it is still a very solid B+ with a lively feel to it. I listened to it (it had been years since I heard this show) and really enjoyed hearing this show again :-)It's a nice offer but I think bit's of this were used in the merge and other than that it doesn't really offer much extra to the listener, like you say we already have a better version of this one. Imo, every source is a unique take on the concert. The criteria should be objective, not subjective. |
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| little foetus 05.04.2017 12:08 |
As far as I'm concerned, I think that even alternate sources which might sound worse are to be included. At least, to know it exists even if not much people will be interested. |
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| on my way up 06.04.2017 05:16 |
Now I'm here reprise from Vienna 12-05-82 alternate source: link |
| Chinwonder2 06.04.2017 09:40 |
^ Thanks! :) -Chin |
| The Real Wizard 07.04.2017 09:14 |
The Kurgan wrote: Hopefully The Real Wizard will get back to me soon regarding the flac sample of his that I queried on page 2 of this thread.I'm not sure why you were waiting for my response since it's your bonanza ! But here we go: As per my uncirculated tapes - the 9-4-84 recording is still better than the existing source. You're right, it's lossy - I initially thought it may be mp3 sourced, but I just couldn't be sure as the taper wasn't clear about what the lineage was (and he's nowhere to be found). I have collected many bands for nearly 20 years, and never have I seen such a post on any other collecting website - The Traders' Den, Dime, Zappateers, Yeeshkul, etc. The contributors to those places find tapes, transfer them, and post them. They do not post samples accompanied by a challenge to others to do the same. This type of activity is best left to bootleggers and hoarders, which I presume you are neither. I respect where you're coming from, as you're trying to encourage others to contribute. But the reality is - you really cannot cajole people into sharing things. You shouldn't have to do what amounts to holding the Queen community hostage in the form of a game. And now part way through you are redefining the rules - all of these tapes are uncirculated (four now, including On My Way Up's Vienna source), and three of them didn't meet an arbitrarily enforced standard of yours. It may be a surprise to you, but there are 4 and 5 sources of dozens of Zeppelin and Pink Floyd shows, and countless collectors of those bands are happy to have every source that's out there. You may not be a completist, but plenty of others are. Is this bonanza for you, or for everyone? I have unearthed literally hundreds of Queen tapes, either new ones or upgrades of existing ones, always with complete transparency and accountability. If you want to add a few tapes of your own, then feel free. And if you don't approve of any of these ones I've provided, then just call any of my previous activity here a retroactive contribution to this project of yours. I shouldn't have to pony up to effectively give permission to someone to post a new Queen tape, and nor should anyone else. Be the change you wish to see in the world. If you think there aren't enough new Queen tapes coming out, then make some Queen tapes come out - you have at least two of them. Maybe others will follow ! |
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| Thistle 08.04.2017 16:55 |
Okay! Might not be of any use, however I have what I was told was a master recording of Maine Rd, 1986. I'm aware that there are versions out there and so this may not be of interest. I bought it some 20 years ago and forgot I had it until recently. I've not heard it for years, no longer have the equipment to play it, and I have lost a HDD full of downloaded gigs - so can't compare it to see if it is, indeed, an uncirculated version. The taper promised he had only put it onto disc for himself and that it wasn't copied from another source. If so, I have a lossless alternate version. Lineage (rather, what was used to record the show) I'm unsure of - I am no longer in contact with the taper and don't know how to find him. If someone would like to do the honours of checking this out and doing a transfer/share, they're more than welcome and I'd be happy to send the tape out. David? Is this something you'd want to do? I didn't offer it before as I had posted on a FB page regarding a "value" (not that I wanted to sell it, I just wanted to itemise my collection and values) and it didn't seem to catch attention. Other than a Roger Taylor show I shared a few years back, thanks to Marknow, I have nothing that's "new" so this is it I'm afraid. |
| Thistle 09.04.2017 15:09 |
For what it's worth, I agree with Bob. I think the initiative could have worked, but the constant changing of goal-posts and people being made to feel that their contributions are worthless is hardly the way to encourage shares. Also noted that you were happy for Bob to make multiple entries, however when you were asked to perhaps include another tape, you weren't happy with that as it wasn't the point in your game. Make rules, stick to them. It's obvious that you're just hoping to get something out of this, so just ask the person you're trying to lure. They're not going to fall for a "game" like this. Your contributions to this forum are fantastic Kurgan, really. We've not always seen eye-to-eye, but I do respect what you've done for this community. No need to spit the dummy over a disagreement - and that's not the first time I've said that to you here. I do suspect you have multiple accounts, so no doubt you'll be seeing this. Hope you take what's said on board. |
| Chinwonder2 09.04.2017 15:26 |
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| RStanton 09.04.2017 21:01 |
Thistleboy1980 wrote: For what it's worth, I agree with Bob. I think the initiative could have worked, but the constant changing of goal-posts and people being made to feel that their contributions are worthless is hardly the way to encourage shares. Also noted that you were happy for Bob to make multiple entries, however when you were asked to perhaps include another tape, you weren't happy with that as it wasn't the point in your game. Make rules, stick to them. It's obvious that you're just hoping to get something out of this, so just ask the person you're trying to lure. They're not going to fall for a "game" like this. Your contributions to this forum are fantastic Kurgan, really. We've not always seen eye-to-eye, but I do respect what you've done for this community. No need to spit the dummy over a disagreement - and that's not the first time I've said that to you here. I do suspect you have multiple accounts, so no doubt you'll be seeing this. Hope you take what's said on board.Talking of multiple accounts, I always assumed that The Kurgan and Barry Durex was the same person? |
| dysan 10.04.2017 01:26 |
This is like seeing my parents fight :( |
| brians wig 10.04.2017 03:54 |
Thistleboy1980. I have PM'd you :) |
| Thistle 10.04.2017 20:51 |
Got it, ta - reply sent :) |
| dudeofqueen 11.04.2017 04:40 |
My issue with this is; is it a call to arms in order to make more material available for the wider community or, simply, (and this is not meant to be an insult) an individual trying to get something they've been after for a while? I understand the desire to get as much definitive material available in high QUALITY, but to demean genuine offers of help and assistance does nothing but create suspicion around motive. I'd love NOTHING more than for the likes of JSS to open his vault and allow us to share the wealth (as its there), but the fact is that it's just not going to happen given past histories etc. If only Queenzone hadn't fallen so far. |
| brians wig 11.04.2017 04:59 |
dudeofqueen wrote: I'd love NOTHING more than for the likes of JSS to open his vault and allow us to share the wealth (as its there), but the fact is that it's just not going to happen given past histories etc. If only Queenzone hadn't fallen so far.JSS opened his vaults (with the exception of Hangman) about 5 years ago and formed a group called "Fanthology" which brought together over a dozen traders known for owning rare material and a handful of other people with knowledge and also skills to clean up and material that needed it so that it could eventually be shared with everybody. With a combined archive of rare material, the group was in a position to do trades with other collectors (and indeed was in the process of doing so), when one of its members, David Fuller, took it upon himself to stick two fingers up to the group and release all the rarities amassed so far. Some were listed on Youtube, many others were SOLD (!) privately. All have since become public domain. Needless to say, the Fanthology idea ground to a halt with the wind having been knocked out of members sails. With nothing valuable left to trade, it was done in that respect. So here we are, back to shares on QZ with a handful of people attempting to do something similar to Fanthology: trying to open up free trade negotiations with other collectors whilst doing the best they can to clean up known material so that it can be presented in the best quality and form possible to the masses. |
| oliverd05 11.04.2017 14:49 |
wasn't the rarities amassed by the Fanthology group only kept within the group like a walled garden that unless you had something to contribute you didn't get in? and because it was nigh on impossible to find anything rare because the fanthology already had it, until David Fuller came along? are we not back to the same thing, where now theres nothing new out there coz its being kept between a few people, and theres nothing new to find? maybe thats why the bonanza game hasn't worked as well?? |
| dysan 11.04.2017 15:27 |
Kind of like a game of Queen Monopoly. oh. |
| brians wig 11.04.2017 17:11 |
oliverd05 wrote: wasn't the rarities amassed by the Fanthology group only kept within the group like a walled garden that unless you had something to contribute you didn't get in? and because it was nigh on impossible to find anything rare because the fanthology already had it, until David Fuller came along? are we not back to the same thing, where now theres nothing new out there coz its being kept between a few people, and theres nothing new to find? maybe thats why the bonanza game hasn't worked as well??There was never any plan to add new members to Fanthology. The team was assembled and that was that. Fanthology was a great idea that was always intended to benefit EVERYONE. It was always going to be a long term project and if it had continued, we'd all be seeing some great results and shares by now. It was never a bunch of people out for their own gain. The plan was always to put together the best archive outside of QPL and release it after a number of years (and no, I'm not talking decades before the negative mob start). It was never to drip feed rarities which is why some folks on here seem so negative about it. If that had happened, all the "elite" traders would have kept hold of everything they had knowing that they'd get Fanthology rarities via free drip feed along with everyone else. As it happened, thanks to Fuller, that's exactly what happened - said traders got the stuff freely and trades in progress ceased. I wouldn't say "the Bonanza game" isn't working: it's producing 'some' results, but QZ is only a small community and I know of traders who are members here but are rarely active. For the most part, I think people on QZ don't have any rarities to share but may have upgrades to share. Yes, we are 'back to the same thing' with traders, as you put it, but as you know, it's hard enough trying to trade for rarities even when you have some in return - it's a trust thing. You have to bear in mind the two main ways people have rarities is because they've spent thousands on acetates at auction (and would YOU give copies away freely if you had?), or they've been obtained on the sly from QPL or one of the video houses that's transferred footage for QPL and if stuff "leaked", you'd immediately lose your source. After a time, rarities lose their value between traders and that's when they become public domain and for all we know, there may be some items that are at that stage now and this "game" could be the prompt needed for some to start sharing.... |
| The Real Wizard 12.04.2017 00:52 |
The Kurgan wrote: in case you didn't notice I shared a lossless transfer of my Coventry '75 tape only yesterday on another thread.Then why the need for the bonanza? It seems you have twisted it all into something rather sinister and decided to rant on at me.It wasn't a rant - I just accurately pointed out that a) you were changing the game part way through, and b) plenty of people are interested in multiple sources of shows regardless of their quality. A "game" changer, if you'll pardon the pun. As a result I'm offering the task of choosing what goes in the slots to somebody else as I am obviously in need of another substantial hiatus from QZ. I will agree to whatever goes in, my pledge of course still stands.Then that means we're at 6 tapes - the three I offered, the Vienna 82 offered by "on my way up", and your London 12-10-80? |
| brians wig 12.04.2017 04:26 |
The Real Wizard wrote: As per my uncirculated tapes - the 9-4-84 recording is still better than the existing source. You're right, it's lossy - I initially thought it may be mp3 sourced, but I just couldn't be sure as the taper wasn't clear about what the lineage was (and he's nowhere to be found).Possibly sourced from minidisc? I know I spent the mid 90's transferring all of my tapes to minidisc and then CD-R came out... |
| The Real Wizard 12.04.2017 10:50 |
brians wig wrote:Yep, that's always a possibility too. But doesn't minidisc cut off around 20kHz instead of 16?The Real Wizard wrote: As per my uncirculated tapes - the 9-4-84 recording is still better than the existing source. You're right, it's lossy - I initially thought it may be mp3 sourced, but I just couldn't be sure as the taper wasn't clear about what the lineage was (and he's nowhere to be found).Possibly sourced from minidisc? I know I spent the mid 90's transferring all of my tapes to minidisc and then CD-R came out... |
| little foetus 12.04.2017 13:31 |
32 KHz DAT? |
| The Real Wizard 18.09.2017 22:55 |
It turns out the Paris 84 recording was posted at TTD, but nobody noticed because it's in a 48 page thread consisting mostly of this one person's carrot dangling of samples - and the download link expired in a week. link So I guess that's what passes as "sharing" now. |
| Chinwonder2 18.09.2017 23:45 |
The Real Wizard wrote: It turns out the Paris 84 recording was posted at TTD, but nobody noticed because it's in a 48 page thread consisting mostly of this one person's carrot dangling of samples - and the download link expired in a week. link So I guess that's what passes as "sharing" now.If you really want it, here you go! :) link -Chin |
| The Real Wizard 19.09.2017 00:14 |
Chinwonder2 wrote:Nicely spotted, Watson ! Thanks for that.The Real Wizard wrote: It turns out the Paris 84 recording was posted at TTD, but nobody noticed because it's in a 48 page thread consisting mostly of this one person's carrot dangling of samples - and the download link expired in a week. link So I guess that's what passes as "sharing" now.If you really want it, here you go! :) link -Chin The speed fluctuates on side B of the tape, so I'll post a speed corrected version when I get a chance. And although it's truly bizarre behaviour to let out an uncirculated tape like that, thanks all the same to Kurgan ! |
| The Real Wizard 19.09.2017 01:10 |
Advice to anyone with uncirculated material...
Don't ever make anyone feel the need to post something like this:
oliverd05 wrote: Kurgan care to give a tease of what you know is out there?Nobody should ever feel like they're in a position of servitude. If you're going to say something exists, then post it. If you don't want to post it, then don't talk about it. It's pretty simple. Music isn't a hierarchical relationship. It is shared between equals who enjoy the same thing. As soon as a master/servant relationship is established, you have officially missed the point of what "sharing" music is all about. |
| Barry Durex 20.09.2017 15:27 |
The Real Wizard wrote: It turns out the Paris 84 recording was posted at TTD, but nobody noticed because it's in a 48 page thread consisting mostly of this one person's carrot dangling of samples - and the download link expired in a week. link So I guess that's what passes as "sharing" now.Hmmm, you seem to neglect to mention there are three full un-circulated flac shares on that one page link alone. It's a trade list thread, so it follows that samples are a logical inclusion. There is not the slightest hint of malice in the entire thread as far as I'm concerned, quite the contrary in fact. Some of us did notice the thread by the way, so the wisest course of action might be to subscribe to it instead of whinging. |
| The Real Wizard 20.09.2017 16:26 |
Barry Durex wrote:It's 2017. We're in the digital age. Of course the few shares are appreciated by anyone who wants them, but 95% of the thread is carrot dangling.The Real Wizard wrote: It turns out the Paris 84 recording was posted at TTD, but nobody noticed because it's in a 48 page thread consisting mostly of this one person's carrot dangling of samples - and the download link expired in a week. link So I guess that's what passes as "sharing" now.Hmmm, you seem to neglect to mention there are three full un-circulated flac shares on that one page link alone. It's a trade list thread, so it follows that samples are a logical inclusion. There is not the slightest hint of malice in the entire thread as far as I'm concerned, quite the contrary in fact. Some of us did notice the thread by the way, so the wisest course of action might be to subscribe to it instead of whinging. And you always seem to be jumping to this person's defense ... hmm, I wonder why !? You write in the same style and everything... It takes nerve to defend this kind of behaviour, and while implying that I am a hoarder given my activity at this forum over the last 15 years. Keep on going - this is free entertainment. |
| Barry Durex 20.09.2017 16:37 |
I can defend whomever I like. The free entertainment comment could end at your expense, so pray continue. |
| The Real Wizard 20.09.2017 16:50 |
I can live without hearing a couple tapes. I will never reduce myself to feeding from the trough. So please, go on and continue vilifying someone who has unearthed more Queen tapes than anyone else. |
| Barry Durex 20.09.2017 17:00 |
The Real Wizard wrote: I can live without hearing a couple tapes. I will never reduce myself to feeding from the trough. So please, go on and continue vilifying someone who has unearthed more Queen tapes than anyone else.I don't dispute you are the master of liberating the recordings of both traders and collectors alike. But I hold the cards that can win me the game if I decide to play them, do you want to raise or fold? |
| Nitroboy 20.09.2017 18:09 |
Barry Durex wrote:Big words from a big boy hiding behind his keyboardThe Real Wizard wrote: I can live without hearing a couple tapes. I will never reduce myself to feeding from the trough. So please, go on and continue vilifying someone who has unearthed more Queen tapes than anyone else.I don't dispute you are the master of liberating the recordings of both traders and collectors alike. But I hold the cards that can win me the game if I decide to play them, do you want to raise or fold? |
| Barry Durex 20.09.2017 18:10 |
^ Not big words, the truth if you can handle it. Raise or fold RW, I have nothing to lose either way. |
| The Real Wizard 20.09.2017 18:30 |
I don't take bait or ultimatums. And I'm not interested. |
| Barry Durex 20.09.2017 18:35 |
The Real Wizard wrote: I don't take bait or ultimatums. And I'm not interested.It seems you folded, your call not mine. The truth will out eventually I surmise, of that I have no doubt. I respect your withdrawal from the debate, let me know if you change your mind though and we can see this through. Until then think about the people you have wrongly chastised and next time you pass a mirror.... |
| MackMantilla 20.09.2017 22:10 |
The Real Wizard wrote:I'll be waiting for that speed corrected version ;-)Chinwonder2 wrote:Nicely spotted, Watson ! Thanks for that. The speed fluctuates on side B of the tape, so I'll post a speed corrected version when I get a chance. And although it's truly bizarre behaviour to let out an uncirculated tape like that, thanks all the same to Kurgan !The Real Wizard wrote: It turns out the Paris 84 recording was posted at TTD, but nobody noticed because it's in a 48 page thread consisting mostly of this one person's carrot dangling of samples - and the download link expired in a week. link So I guess that's what passes as "sharing" now.If you really want it, here you go! :) link -Chin |
| on my way up 20.09.2017 22:34 |
Barry Durex wrote:Going by your posts you want to turn this thread into a threat...The Real Wizard wrote: I don't take bait or ultimatums. And I'm not interested.It seems you folded, your call not mine. The truth will out eventually I surmise, of that I have no doubt. I respect your withdrawal from the debate, let me know if you change your mind though and we can see this through. Until then think about the people you have wrongly chastised and next time you pass a mirror.... If you think that's classy and if it makes you feel good when you look in the mirror, then good for you. Highly unimpressive for the rest of us though. |
| Barry Durex 20.09.2017 22:49 |
The threat to expose the hypocrites? |
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