| gbmaster 03.03.2017 01:53 |
A previously-uncirculated master tranfser now available on Dimeadozen. This is pure gold, guys... pure gold... Here's the original torrent description: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Queen Cobo Arena (aka Hall) Detroit, Michigan November 19, 1977 Master cassette Tape>Magix Cleaning Lab>CD>Traders Little Helper Unknown recording equipment. Disc 1 We Will Rock You (intro-slow) We Will Rock You (fast) Brighton Rock Somebody to Love It's Late Death on Two Legs (Dedicated to…) Killer Queen Good Old-Fashioned Lover Boy/I'm in Love with My Car Get Down, Make Love The Millionaire Waltz You're My Best Friend Spread Your Wings Liar Love of My Life '39 Disc 2 My Melancholy Blues White Man The Prophet's Song Keep Yourself Alive Bohemian Rhapsody Tie Your Mother Down We Will Rock You (slow) We Are the Champions Taper-Gary M. (R.I.P.) Obtained and transferred by Heavy Metal Al Uploaded by damageinc777 My friend Al asked me to post this in the hopes it will trigger others to dig up some rare gems. Okay the story on this goes something like....Al collects mostly shows done in Michigan. You could say he specializes in it. And he used to be pretty persistent in tracking down Michigan tapers. That's how we met and are now pretty good friends. Through another friend he got ahold of Gary who recorded this back in the day. He asked Gary if he could digitize some of his audio masters and Gary said go for it. Gary had boxes and boxes of stuff all over. Thousands of recordings and no organization to any of it. This show according to other setlists from around the same time is missing the last couple songs. They may have been on another cassette in another of Garys boxes. Or he may have not recorded it period. We'll most likely never know. But I think Stone Cold Crazy was cut from the recording (not recorded) possibly because of tape space or battery issues. The other thing is Gary only marked the master Queen Cobo '77. So we are hoping some Queen nut will be able to figure out if this was November 18th or 19th of 1977. UPDATE #2- The show was the first night thanks to tsskiller's catch. Freddie gets confused about the tour dates before Death On Two Legs. "The second show's tomorrow, sorry folks". Since Al obtained this Gary has passed away. Supposedly Gary's wife had no love for his collection and most likely it was thrown out. Although I hope I am wrong. Al and I are not Queen experts so if someone would like to properly track/edit/remaster feel free. We did the best we could. This is my first audio torrent so hopefully it all goes well. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- According to the Sir description on his website, the quality goes between B+ and A- (I just downloaded this and I haven't had the time to give it a listen). For the interested ones, here's the link to the post link |
| brians wig 03.03.2017 04:45 |
Fantastic find!. Thanks :) |
| alberbal12 03.03.2017 06:11 |
Would be amazing if anybody can put here the full concert. |
| Chinwonder2 03.03.2017 11:01 |
Since the torrent seems to be dead, here's a WeTransfer link: https://we.tl/nMNmJhOcSR Enjoy!! :) -Chin |
| alberbal12 03.03.2017 11:40 |
Thanks, Chin. |
| Yuri Queen 03.03.2017 12:27 |
some time ago I had already heard of this show... It turned a fake,various songs from the 70 tour I hope this is genuine :) |
| Chinwonder2 03.03.2017 12:39 |
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| dysan 03.03.2017 12:43 |
This sounds great so far. Thanks for the link :) |
| The Real Wizard 03.03.2017 13:02 |
Yuri Queen wrote: some time ago I had already heard of this show... It turned a fake,various songs from the 70 tour I hope this is genuine :)Did you even read the description before you posted that? |
| The Real Wizard 03.03.2017 13:04 |
Chinwonder2 wrote: Ive uploaded the show to my channel here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXEssKjV-us Enjoy!! :) -ChinMy two cents, and this likely won't have me being Mr popular today - but you should probably never upload a newly circulated tape to youtube. Even though the taper is now deceased, the people who may have gone through great trouble to obtain and transfer the tapes may be upset that the quality has been decreased greatly on youtube so soon after it came out. In this case there is no "don't mp3 this" clause, but there should at least be a grace period while the original seed is still hot. It took nearly 40 years for it to get out, and it's not unlikely that someone would be pissed off that it took 40 minutes for it to lose half its quality. I'm not here to tell anyone what to do, but I just have an extreme respect for 70s tapers, and would like to think they'd want their tapes to have their quality maintained as best as possible. Youtube is basically the new mp3. If the show didn't come out on youtube, then it probably means the people involved wanted something better for it. |
| Chinwonder2 03.03.2017 13:06 |
Ok, sorry Bob, I'll private it for another week or more, would that be ok? -Chin |
| The Real Wizard 03.03.2017 13:10 |
Chinwonder2 wrote: Ok, sorry Bob, I'll private it for another week or more, would that be ok? -ChinLike I said, I'm not the police here. I'm more the guy in the corner with the clipboard making suggestions. My personal wishes are irrelevant. I'm just thinking about the taper, the transferrer, and the seeder. A few of us are trying to obtain a raw transfer of the master, since this one was hiss reduced. The owner of the tape might say no because "why does the Queen community care about a raw transfer if they've already put it on youtube?" Nobody's stopping anyone from making an mp3 copy and posting it anywhere they want. But it's just maybe not the best course of action at this point. You can go up to a veteran on veteran's day, give them a quarter, and take all the poppies. It's legal, but it doesn't make it right. Up to you, man. I'm just here to provide a point of view that some people may not have thought of. |
| Nitroboy 03.03.2017 13:28 |
I uploaded the Landover '78 show a day or two after you shared it Bob. I suppose it draws attention to the show, and a lot of people ask where it can be obtained, at which point we (the uploaders on YouTube) can direct people to sites like DIME etc., so they can get the lossless recordings. I suppose that's sort of a win/win? :o |
| Chinwonder2 03.03.2017 13:33 |
I don't mind waiting a couple days or week, I'm currently thinking about working on a Montreal '81 full uncut show, trying to figure out which night the video is from will be a pain if even possible but I can try it audio wise! :) Again, my apologies. -Chin |
| The Real Wizard 03.03.2017 13:35 |
Nitroboy wrote: I uploaded the Landover '78 show a day or two after you shared it Bob. I suppose it draws attention to the show, and a lot of people ask where it can be obtained, at which point we (the uploaders on YouTube) can direct people to sites like DIME etc., so they can get the lossless recordings. I suppose that's sort of a win/win? :oWell, that's me - I personally didn't mind. And I agree with that method of spreading awareness. But I have also seen my fair share of old curmudgeon tapers who literally would have burned the rest of their Queen masters to teach people a lesson. It's a whole side of things that people don't see if their activity is limited to places like Queenzone and youtube. Ever read the Freezer's Revenge thread on The Traders' Den? These things usually happen in private, but we're lucky enough to have this up for posterity. Skimming any random few pages of that 500 page thread is essential for any music collector, and should have any sane minded individual thinking twice before potentially pissing off a taper. Hell, I've seen tapers punish collecting communities because their tapes got bootlegged - at no fault of the community, yet the community gets punished. So you'd better believe that actions of the community can have consequences. I can name at least three Queen tapes that will forever remain uncirculated for these reasons. But you don't have to take my word for it. I've only been doing this for about 20 years ;) |
| . 03.03.2017 14:16 |
Go on, name the three tapes ;) |
| The Real Wizard 03.03.2017 14:20 |
The Kurgan wrote: Go on, name the three tapes ;)I knew that was coming ! New Orleans 3-18-75 New York 12-1-77 source 3 Zurich 4-16-82 source 2 Next question? ;) |
| gambri 03.03.2017 14:48 |
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| gambri 03.03.2017 14:48 |
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| gambri 03.03.2017 14:49 |
Sorry for the blank post. :) |
| The Real Wizard 03.03.2017 14:53 |
gambri wrote: Sorry for the blank post. :)^ nice one ! |
| Harry_queenrecordings 03.03.2017 17:00 |
What a great surprise this recording is! It's brilliant! But of course really a shame that it went through a bad hiss reduction.. Huge thanks for uploading! |
| Ale_Pisa 03.03.2017 18:01 |
Thank you for this |
| Ale_Pisa 03.03.2017 18:01 |
Thank you for this |
| Sue Dounim 03.03.2017 18:47 |
Even if it's incomplete, this is cause for celebration! Tapes from the american NOTW tour dont exactly pop up often y'know! |
| Krypto_98 03.03.2017 21:04 |
Do i need to get my ears checked or did he nail the first chorus in We Are The Champions and also do FOR LOSERS in the second,(unfortunate about that crack before the last fighting though) |
| Nick Browning 03.03.2017 21:39 |
link it's up on youtube |
| MercurialFreddie 04.03.2017 09:00 |
Thanks for everyone involved in making this transfer available for us and in consequence cherish Queen's prime live era !!! It's sad to hear that such fan of music and live shows as Gary, passed away. Let's hope that these countless tapes aren't in the dumpster or destroyed already. |
| dysan 04.03.2017 09:25 |
I raised the 'central' channel on the first few songs and EQ'd the treble and the results are very nice. I'll leave it to someone a bit more talented than me to have a go at the whole show. |
| dysan 04.03.2017 09:25 |
More talented = more time on their hands :) |
| Your Fairy King 04.03.2017 10:05 |
Chinwonder2 wrote: Since the torrent seems to be dead, here's a WeTransfer link: https://we.tl/nMNmJhOcSR Enjoy!! :) -ChinThank you SO much. The performance is incredible. I was at the Dayton OH 1977 show right around the same time. |
| MercurialFreddie 04.03.2017 12:59 |
The performance is really incredible. Spread Your Wings is terrific, delivered very emotionally.... To officially release this in soundboard quality as a commemoration of the NOTW anniversary is purely utopian thought but a nice one. |
| The Real Wizard 04.03.2017 13:41 |
Yeah, it really is a great show. Definitely one of the very best Queen shows ever captured on tape. Enjoy this, folks - it's extremely rare that a great 70s tape like this comes out. |
| TomP63 04.03.2017 13:55 |
Thank you very very much to all involved! Very nice addition of a great tour. Tom |
| Cruella de Vil 04.03.2017 17:04 |
Dear Chinwonder2, thinks for the new link. I was having nightmares on Dime, trying to set up a new account. Even from what I have heard via You Tube, this is a great show so I am looking forward to hearing it. Very much appreciated. CDV. |
| kohuept 04.03.2017 18:52 |
Thanks to all involved! This sounds great! |
| musicland munich 04.03.2017 20:20 |
Nice one ! Always good to see when a new recording shows up :) And this one is obviously a good one. Many Thanks ! |
| pmatsynot 05.03.2017 05:23 |
Thanks for the original share and thanks Chin for the new link |
| little foetus 05.03.2017 09:37 |
Very exciting release! Great sound of a show from a somewhat underrepresented tour which is one of my favorite. Me too, I'm feeling like a child having a new present. |
| 1651997 05.03.2017 11:50 |
dysan wrote: I raised the 'central' channel on the first few songs and EQ'd the treble and the results are very nice. I'll leave it to someone a bit more talented than me to have a go at the whole show.That'd be great! |
| The Real Wizard 05.03.2017 15:19 |
dysan wrote: I raised the 'central' channel on the first few songs and EQ'd the treble and the results are very nice. I'll leave it to someone a bit more talented than me to have a go at the whole show.Curious to hear what you've come up with. Can you post a sample? |
| gbmaster 05.03.2017 16:42 |
I didn't expect this thread to grow so much in such short time :) @dysan: I'm also curious to give your enhancement a listen |
| softcalavera2 05.03.2017 17:53 |
Thank you!! but...not a torrent here? |
| dysan 06.03.2017 03:07 |
Sorry I didn't save them, just having a fiddle with a thought to do something later. Might do it again later if you're interested in hearing. |
| The Real Wizard 06.03.2017 03:19 |
dysan wrote: Sorry I didn't save them, just having a fiddle with a thought to do something later. Might do it again later if you're interested in hearing.For sure - bring it on. |
| dysan 06.03.2017 03:41 |
(the honest answer is I got cocky and started panning drum fills etc and fucked it) |
| Barry Durex 06.03.2017 03:43 |
Sometimes that can happen. |
| Chopin1995 06.03.2017 05:21 |
Thanks for everyone involved! And thank you Chin for providing a link! I can see very positive reviews of this recording/show so I will try to find free time today to listen to this! |
| GuitarMay 06.03.2017 06:59 |
WOW !!! Many, many thanks to bring us here ! and of course , a remaster from the experts in the sound is always welcome :) |
| darkorian1 06.03.2017 13:04 |
Thanks Chinwonder2! |
| mow955 06.03.2017 13:56 |
Thank you very much. I really enjoyed listening to this fab tape |
| people on streets 06.03.2017 16:52 |
wow. Freddie is in great shape this show. Absolutely love it. |
| Jay Mantis 07.03.2017 15:24 |
Great recording, thanks for sharing. Noise reduction is quite obvious though, here's hoping a clean transfer will be done at some point. |
| pittrek 07.03.2017 15:48 |
Well a new uncirculated tape? I must start going here more often! Thanks a lot ! |
| Rick 08.03.2017 08:53 |
A few years ago I would be jumping for joy, but now? I don't really care anymore about Queen bootlegs. Still great to see that tapes like this see the light of day. Thanks for sharing! |
| Nitroboy 08.03.2017 09:01 |
Rick wrote: A few years ago I would be jumping for joy, but now? I don't really care anymore about Queen bootlegs. Still great to see that tapes like this see the light of day. Thanks for sharing! How come? |
| Rick 08.03.2017 12:03 |
Nitroboy wrote:A combination of things, really. Other bands sparked my interest. Apart from the Rainbow 1974 release, I think QP has pretty much let us down with half-baked products. I think I was too obsessed with Queen (music) for a long time and needed a break from it.Rick wrote: A few years ago I would be jumping for joy, but now? I don't really care anymore about Queen bootlegs. Still great to see that tapes like this see the light of day. Thanks for sharing!How come? Wake me up when Hyde Park 1976 will be released officially ;-) |
| Oscar J 08.03.2017 13:08 |
Rick wrote:Nitroboy wrote:A combination of things, really. Other bands sparked my interest. Apart from the Rainbow 1974 release, I think QP has pretty much let us down with half-baked products. I think I was too obsessed with Queen (music) for a long time and needed a break from it. Wake me up when Hyde Park 1976 will be released officially ;-)Rick wrote: A few years ago I would be jumping for joy, but now? I don't really care anymore about Queen bootlegs. Still great to see that tapes like this see the light of day. Thanks for sharing!How come? This is literally me. Are we the same person? :O |
| Ale Solan 10.03.2017 09:55 |
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| Rick 10.03.2017 12:21 |
Oscar J wrote:Oscar J is my other account.Rick wrote:This is literally me. Are we the same person? :ONitroboy wrote:A combination of things, really. Other bands sparked my interest. Apart from the Rainbow 1974 release, I think QP has pretty much let us down with half-baked products. I think I was too obsessed with Queen (music) for a long time and needed a break from it. Wake me up when Hyde Park 1976 will be released officially ;-)Rick wrote: A few years ago I would be jumping for joy, but now? I don't really care anymore about Queen bootlegs. Still great to see that tapes like this see the light of day. Thanks for sharing!How come? ;-) |
| aristide1 11.03.2017 03:48 |
If Rick is fed up while Magmadrag desperately wants more, this proves my theory about conservation of mass in Queen system. I also believe in constant stupidity level. Bootlegs are boring and official releases are disappointing? Then fuck off to the forums of the lucky bands able to spark your interest. |
| Oscar J 11.03.2017 04:40 |
Did your mother not hug you enough as a child? |
| Rick 11.03.2017 05:11 |
aristide1 wrote: If Rick is fed up while Magmadrag desperately wants more, this proves my theory about conservation of mass in Queen system. I also believe in constant stupidity level. Bootlegs are boring and official releases are disappointing? Then fuck off to the forums of the lucky bands able to spark your interest.Did you even read what I said? I'm already part of other communties. Don't ya worry :-) |
| *goodco* 11.03.2017 08:05 |
For personal reasons, as well as the quality, I rate this easily in the top ten of Queen bootlegs, top five for audience recordings. To start, Detroit audiences are arguably the best RnR crowds. I get a special thrill when I hear Freddie greet the city. His vocals are top notch this night, with the whole band in top form. Good to have a different set list than the European tour (other than 'Stone Cold Crazy' being absent). Highlights of note (and there are many more): 'Somebody To Love', 'It's Late', some Freddie BVs in IILWMCar (along with a great version), a BBC-ish version of 'Spread Your Wings', 'My Melancholy Blues', 'Love of My Life' without the audience participation, and John's shining moments in 'Liar'. (my wife loves 'Liar' and the BBC 'SYW'. Played this in the car yesterday, and the volume was as loud as anytime she's been in the car with me, at her request.) The best: the ending of the concert proper with 'Bohemian Rhapsody' and 'Tie Your Mother Down'. Queen concerts could be confusing at times, so I love how the crowd reacts during BoRhap's taped middle, and how it drowns out the band when it reappears. One gets a true sense of just what it was like for most who had no idea what the live presentation of this song had become. Love the reactions and energy during 'Tie Your Mother Down'. There are some hiccups in this transfer, as well as one noticeable one by Freddie during WATC. Guaranteed that no one who was present that night heard it. And though it is incomplete, I simply added the Copenhagen encores at the end. A fair fit, and since Freddie simply says 'Good night, sweet dreams', it works. I saw the II, ANATO, ADATR, Jazz, Game, Hot Space tours. There was no way I could work that Saturday morning and go to a MUST football game after, and see either show 150 miles away. Always regretted missing this one, but now have this superb audio. Thanks to anyone and everyone who provided this very special concert for us. As one audience member said, 'Rock and Roll !!!' ;-) |
| Chopin1995 11.03.2017 08:42 |
Thank you for your review! Very intersting to read. Love Of My Life from NOTW American Tour are my favorite versions (Houston being my personal best version ever) John is great during this show. Especially in The Millionaire Waltz,You're My Best Friend,Spread Your Wings,Liar segment. Freddie is very confident with his vocals and sings a lot of high, powerful notes! |
| Nitroboy 11.03.2017 09:34 |
*goodco* wrote: There are some hiccups in this transfer, as well as one noticeable one by Freddie during WATC. Guaranteed that no one who was present that night heard it. I take it you didn't hear it properly. Some people close to the taper can clearly be heard reacting to Freddie's voice giving out in the 3rd chorus :) |
| *goodco* 11.03.2017 17:04 |
Maybe I should have said 'remembered it' sheesh |
| The Real Wizard 12.03.2017 01:19 |
*goodco* wrote: As one audience member said, 'Rock and Roll !!!' ;-)ha, yeah ! She was hating Brian during his guitar solo, and 15 minutes later all is forgiven. Rock concert excess at its finest. |
| Nitroboy 12.03.2017 03:59 |
The Real Wizard wrote:*goodco* wrote: As one audience member said, 'Rock and Roll !!!' ;-)ha, yeah ! She was hating Brian during his guitar solo, and 15 minutes later all is forgiven. Rock concert excess at its finest. To be fair, May's solo was horribly long (and boring, in my opinion!). I don't blame her :P |
| Viper 12.03.2017 05:46 |
thx! |
| Sam99 12.03.2017 07:47 |
This is wonderful thank you |
| oliverd05 15.03.2017 13:29 |
Listened to this, this morning while putting away a huge delivery at work, made my shift go very fast, and loved the quality of the tape, easily one of the best audience tapes out there Cheers! |
| thetman 15.03.2017 17:12 |
looks like all avenues to obtain this are gone. any one know of another place to get it? thanks |
| Barry Durex 15.03.2017 18:13 |
thetman wrote: looks like all avenues to obtain this are gone. any one know of another place to get it? thanksThere are 54 seeders at dime. |
| Adam Baboolal 15.03.2017 19:13 |
Barry Durex wrote:If you're not a Dime member, is there anywhere else I could download it?thetman wrote: looks like all avenues to obtain this are gone. any one know of another place to get it? thanksThere are 54 seeders at dime. |
| Nitroboy 17.03.2017 12:40 |
Adam Baboolal wrote:Barry Durex wrote:If you're not a Dime member, is there anywhere else I could download it?thetman wrote: looks like all avenues to obtain this are gone. any one know of another place to get it? thanksThere are 54 seeders at dime. Sign up for DIME |
| The Real Wizard 17.03.2017 15:22 |
Nitroboy wrote:To be fair, it's often hard to - they've capped off at 100k members, and you can only get in when someone else is kicked out for inactivity.Adam Baboolal wrote:Sign up for DIMEBarry Durex wrote:If you're not a Dime member, is there anywhere else I could download it?thetman wrote: looks like all avenues to obtain this are gone. any one know of another place to get it? thanksThere are 54 seeders at dime. |
| The Real Wizard 17.03.2017 16:21 |
Adam Baboolal wrote:linkBarry Durex wrote:If you're not a Dime member, is there anywhere else I could download it?thetman wrote: looks like all avenues to obtain this are gone. any one know of another place to get it? thanksThere are 54 seeders at dime. Enjoy ! |
| thetman 17.03.2017 18:17 |
thank you kind sir...... |
| Saint Jiub 17.03.2017 19:06 |
thanks |
| tassilo 03.04.2017 09:18 |
Thank you very much! |
| cmi 16.04.2017 02:06 |
Never noticed before that only on News Of The World Tour concerts Freddie shared lead vocals with Roger on two lines in the chorus of 'I'm In Love With My Car'. |
| Gregsynth 16.04.2017 05:08 |
cmi wrote: Never noticed before that only on News Of The World Tour concerts Freddie shared lead vocals with Roger on two lines in the chorus of 'I'm In Love With My Car'.That's the reason why my favorite versions come from the NOTW Tour. Love when both Freddie and Roger sing in the chorus! |
| GiacomoPiro 04.07.2019 20:27 |
any chance to post it in mega? |
| Junior 27.01.2020 11:21 |
any new links on mega? |
| The Real Wizard 28.01.2020 07:50 |
http://mega.nz/#!d8tTBZJB!-1gNMs-7PkUvQTAA4Ty8XbZ65xOPkqQCMnV6mWKLIdA I'd already posted this on page 4. |
| Junior 31.01.2020 11:17 |
oh sorry for that, TBH didn't go through ALL the pages. I'll do better next time! Thanks! |
| The Real Wizard 01.02.2020 15:55 |
No worries. Enjoy the show - it's pretty fabulous. |